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So they put "RT is funded in whole or in part by the Russian government." below the video on youtube . . . . . CNN, NBC, CBS, FOX News and their ilk are funded by the plutocratic fascist war-for-profit loving criminals who should have been thrown in prison a long time ago for their war crimes of bombing water supplies in Libya, using depleted uranium and white phosphorous weapons in many countries they have invaded illegally, plotting and carrying out coups in many governments contrary to international laws, bombing hospitals murdering patients, nurses and doctors alike, terrorizing men, women and children in other countries by flying drones over them and murdering them, supporting the bombing of children in a schoolbus in Yemen, creating hundreds of thousands of refugees who spread into other countries, supporting the cold-blooded murder of Palestinians by Israel, supporting Israel and their war crimes, persecuting those who expose their crimes, instituting economic warfare against any nations who disagree with them, killing mostly civilians as a result, many of them being innocent children, putting US soldiers in many other countries, it is said there are over 150 bases in other countries, invading other countries so often that it is hard to keep track of it all, and all the while slandering other nations . . . . And all the while lying to the American people about it all, covering it up by lies of omission, omitting to mention their own dirty deeds, and then they post this fucking "RT is funded in whole or in part by the Russian government." . . . And I am suppose to be put off by it? They have got to be complete idiots to think that!

Archeus_Lore 7 Oct 7
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I watch news from all over the world and it includes those you mention and also Iran. I expect to see similarity and balance in the news for it to be valid. RT is Russia's version of CNN and I have no problems with them. Keep in mind that the thing today is to cause the governed to lose faith in governing. If they can do this successfully even the left will start believing it. This is the game of Donnie and friends and I avoid it in any way possible. Donnie is not a nice man and he should be removed from office.

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AS for the BBC, I stand corrected on the funding issue, and removed them from the post, (and FOX News was a good fill-in for it) although that does not change my opinion with regard to them being a mouthpiece for the disgusting war-for-profit lovers that plague the US news networks, BBC clearly toes the same line, and one sees very little deviation from what the US news networks put out.

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Have you never been taught how to use punctuation and sentences properly? It would be much easier to read the above if it was broken up into smaller sentences. The BBC is funded by the viewers through the licence fee and by selling its programmes overseas. It is a statutory corporation, independent from direct government intervention with its operations being overseen by the BBC board and regulated by the viewers’ watchdog Ofcom. It is as independent a broadcaster as is possible, and as it bans advertising, there can be no influence exerted from corporate vested interests. As for the others, I cannot verify any of the things you accuse them of, but perhaps there may be some truth in the belief that sometimes they may have a bias in favour of showing the USA in a favourable light....however none of them are direct mouthpieces for the government...with the exception of Fox, who you strangely omit from your criticism. On the other hand, RT is a direct mouthpiece of the Russian government.

If you are "unable to verify" some of the things I said, it is simply because you have not been doing the research . . . . here is just a small portion . . . US-brokered coup in Ukraine is concerned.
Obama admitting his role in the US-supported coup in Ukraine, a war crime. (First video link below).
Victoria Nuland, Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State, admits in the second video that the USA supported the Ukrainian coup with 5 billion dollars. Note the Chevron symbol in the background of the video. John McCain (Senator Lovewar himself) and Victoria Nuland were in Ukraine in December 2013 amid the mass anti-government protests. (The third video is of John McCain in Ukraine addressing protesters.) During the visit, McCain met with Ukrainian opposition leaders in the country’s capital of Kiev, voicing his support for the protests, adding that he saw Ukraine’s future with Europe.
Biden's youngest son, Hunter Biden was hired to the board of Burisma Holdings, Ukraine’s largest private gas producer.
The proxy Ukraine war is all about energy. The Eastern part of Ukraine is the major oil and gas producing region of Ukraine accounting for approximately 90 per cent of Ukrainian production and according to EIA (The American Energy Information Administration) may have 42 tcf (trillion cubic feet) of shale gas resources technically recoverable from 197 tcf of risked shale gas in place.
George Soros is heavily invested in Ukraine . . . . to the tune of about one billion dollars.
Obama admits the US-sponsored coup:

Victoria Nuland . . . 5 Billion recently, with Chevron symbol behind her
John McCain in Ukraine addressing protesters
Well, well, well . . . . . and they blame Russia for Crimea, when it was their coup that started it all? And Russia is the "aggressor"? [ecowatch.com] . They even bombed the water supply in Libya, a clear and unambiguous war crime. [humanrightsinvestigations.org] . Who are you going to believe, the Pulitzer Prize Winning Journalist, or the politician who lies about her emails and destroys her devices? Pulitzer Prize Winning Journalist Says Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton Approved Sending Sarin Gas To Syrian Rebels [inquisitr.com] . It goes on and on, and you can say you do not know about it, and if that is so, it is because you have not been paying much attention, this information IS on RT, but it is also elsewhere. . . . . oh, but never mind about that, they are funded by the Russians, which is suppose to translate into meaning that it is full of lies . . . . but the "agents" who say that . . . are the ones that kiss their government's behind without asking questions and letting their government do whatever it wants, simply because they pay no attention to what it is really doing. . "To learn who rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize."---Voltaire . Now think Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, and Chelsea Manning . . . .

@Archeus_Lore as I’m not American I don’t really follow any US media outlets. I don’t disagree with you on the above and am not supporting the US News channels or agencies, but merely wish to point out that their are others with agendas too..RT being one of them. I try to garner as much news from as many independent outlets here in the U.K. and from overseas as possible, and draw my own conclusions. The problem is that there is confusion and misinformation on both the internet and the traditional news channels, to such an extent that the average citizen no longer knows what to believe. RT undoubtedly has a lot of factual news interspersed with Russian State propaganda, that weaving of the two is what others do too, and it’s a deliberate ploy. The blurring of fact and fiction or news and fake news is dangerous and is aimed to keep us ignorant of what is really going on.

I went back and read the post and you are right. I thought I was bad with run-on sentences.

@Marionville The biggest problem is that politics are extremely complicated. What one tries to do with good intentions those intentions do not always turn out like one had hoped. The main problem is that no matter what one does there will be some who criticize the policy and the initiator. An article in the Atlantic stated that the world has gotten so complex a single president is no longer able to deal with all the intricacies involved. The really, really horrible thing about our present dictator-in-chief is that he thinks he can and fires all the advisors who tell him otherwise.
I find it really unconscionable that when tRump is bringing so much ill to the world others bring up Obama and point to his supposed mismanagement's.

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You clearly have not a clue about how the BBC is funded and operated.

If it got all its funds from the licence fee and sales but it does rely heavily on treasury money too and that is subject to the discretion of govt

@273kelvin I think that's a red herring. It's public money but the government does not receive any favourable bias in return - the subject of the thread.

@Gareth Supporters of Corbyn may differ. Also many have lost faith in aunty beeb following the Jimmy Savile scandal. Who was so much part of the establishment that the bbc raked in ratings and kept shtum

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Sorry Graphic was rather small...here was the key point:

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Folks can't be serious in thinking that the government doesn't have it's hand in the media business. To say that would be to deny the government being linked to big pharma, wall street, energy/oil, defense contracting, etc. Perhaps they do not own the media outlets but they do work very closely with the corporations (mainly 6 of them) who provide us with all we should/need to know. Why own them when you can trade favors? Ever wonder why congressmen/women come out millionaires after serving a few terms? It's a club for farming people...always has been...always will be. If folks can't see it...perhaps some new glasses? 🙂

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As one who has adopted a stoic philosophy in my later years, and who refuses to watch the "news," I only concern myself with things over which I have personal control. The news is not one of those things. What the right-wing fascists currently in power are doing is also beyond my control, so I won't be working myself into a later about it.
However, I agree wholeheartedly with the general thrust and tone of your remarks, and as usual I'll be voting and hoping for the best.

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Nice rant.

On a serious note, yes, you should be put off by a dictatorship-masquerading-as-a-democracy funding a supposed news channel, especially Putin's dictatorship.

On yet another note, what makes you think that CBS, BBC, et.al., have anything to do with bombing anybody? None of those are government agencies, nor are they government funded, and they have nothing to do with government policy other than reporting on it. All the broadcast networks you mention are privately owned and operated, with the exception of the BBC which operates under royal charter, but which is still not government funded- its operating money comes by way of license fees paid by the great British public. (Evening, all!)

In short- what the hell bee got in your bonnet tonight?

I have a better idea that trying to explain to someone who obviously has no clue, has likely never bothered to watch RT, and does not understand a thing about the media and its propaganda role in the USA . . . .

@Archeus_Lore Actually we do understand. We know you are wrong, which is more than you understand. Paul hit you with some actual facts and you dismissed them. I, for one, dismiss rants from people who don't even know how not to blind their readers, much less distinguish between the struggle of honest journalism versus rampant capitalism (in the same entity) and the lack of honest journalism altogether under the thumb of a government entity. Your perceptions are flawed. That and your attitude destroy any credibility you might have had.

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