Perhaps, but what makes a photo awful doesn’t seem to be. Some men seem to be referring to weight, whilst I don’t think any women have.

@girlwithsmiles I'd rather not play the "which gender is better at what" game.

Agreed. And when you run into an exception, there's always the "block" button on the offending person's profile.

Pretty hot if bellybuttons are your thing

But I've been told photos of me stroking my black pussy are too confrontational...

@MrBeelzeebubbles Depends on how you do it....

@NoPlanetB no wonder I can't get a date... rarely brush my mop and do not own make up....

How would you know if they were not wearing makeup though? Some of us wear light makeup that is undetectable, especially via photos... for example I wear concealer and eyebrow filler but you wouldn't guess that from a pic... and would wrongfully assume I am not wearing any... interesting thing how some straight/bi men are better makeup experts than women!

Change your statement to over 50 and you just wrote what I was thinking.

It’s not a competition really, there are so many variables. Not many people go for purely looks...well not many women

@girlwithsmiles (whiny 2 year old voice) But I want to wiiiiiinnnn!

@MrBeelzeebubbles well good luck...

Hey, Barnie. A good way to take a self-shot is to use your camera's (or phone's) timer feature. Put it on a tripod, or a shelf, set it for 5 or 10 seconds, then move in front of it to capture your charm.

@K9Kohle789 AGREED.

They don't call it Asbergers in the US any more. It's ASD (easier to type, btw). I have it too.

C'mon Annne, hes just a with it, hip, happening kind of guy who's got the 4-1-1.

@RonWilliam53 can't help noticing you ain't wearing silly headgear..........

@AnneWimsey You missed me at the Rocky Horror shadow-cast I was in... But no, I like to keep my way-cool persona under wraps.Except when its time to do the Time Warp.

@RonWilliam53 I sing "Sweet Transvestite" at karaoke all the time, complete with English accent, and gusto, confusing the Heck out of those who do not know me!

@AnneWimsey I carried all the songs as earworms for a good two weeks after and during the entire rehearsal period. Every so often, one crawls out of the pits of my brain and explodes in my ears-right now it's in just seven days...

As long as the man keeps his shirt on for the dang picture, I wouldn't mind seeing a dead fish.

There all about money? Do you mean they're? And if so, do you mean women?

@Cutiebeauty not women but the sites xx

@LeighShelton haha okay

I do know someone who worked for a paid site for men, it was called something like bored housewife’s and she was paid to string men along. But I know they’re not all like that, my old bosses daughter met her husband online. For me the paid sites were no better/ worse than the free ones though. Pictures included!

@girlwithsmiles your right and even if they are honest you don't know about the individuels on them

@Storm1752 I agree with the bad job interview statement.

You get what you expect in life, generally...just sayin'

Well stated and correct.

I’m overweight, does that mean I don’t deserve to date?

@Marcie1974 No, of course not.
I'm an abnormal person and talk funny. How about me? Fixed income, asocial, reclusive...any takers?
Once you get past the horribly bad first impression, my true magnificence becomes apparent, but by then she's gone, baby, gone!
(Did I mention my hilarious but all-but-impenetrable sense of humor?)

@Storm1752 I was specifically referring to you saying:

“ The "ladies" were for the most part the biggest collection of losers I ever saw: ugly, overweight, ignorant, you name it. ”

Makes it sound like you think overweight women are losers.

@Marcie1974 I was ranting, reacting angrily.
I've been thinking a lot about this today, and my considered opinion we ALL have our "ideal" in mind; unfortunately our ideal is probably also everybody else's in our "subculture," AS WELL AS in the dominant culture.
In the culture at large, why do the rich men always have the most beautiful women? Because women want rich men, and men want beautiful women? It would certainly seem so!
In OUR group, it may be incrementally different. I believe it is.
Our overall opinions on the fundamentally BASIC issues of life take a more central role. It's not as blatant a sell-out with us, as it is on meat-market sites like POF, where the quid pro quo is nakedly obvious.
BUT, things such as physical attractiveness, intelligence, financial stability, etc., etc., are still important.
I'd say that's fair.
I'd have thought our choices are more enlightened, but the basic, nuts-and-bolts realities are the same.
To the original question, maybe that's why a lot of men don't CARE about their physical appearance? Maybe they know it's irrelevant; they've always been successful looking like slobs, why change? Maybe the well-groomed guys are just telegraphing their shortcomings!

The beer is warm

@MichaelSpinler Please, write your own post, this is about how women perceive men’s photos. Game playing is a different subject again. Perhaps yourself @GIjeff04 and @storm1752 can start one, you all seem to have your own agenda on this post.

@girlwithsmiles sorry. I thought I was answering the post with what I thought was relevant anecdotal experience. Obviously it was a generalization. I certainly have met amazing people from online but they are few and far between and I'm referring to the pay-for dating sites. Not this site. I saw gals griping about guys and guys can gripe about gals, it seemed reasonable at the time. Sorry to cause any consternation. Hope you have a great weekend

@MichaelSpinler I’m not man bashing and and not sexist. The genders perceive things differently, yes it’s a spectrum and not an absolute. This is the first post I’ve ever made that has been gender specific... and will probably be the last due to the nightmare comments.
@GIjeff04 I’m sorry you got conned into one of those paid sites, some do string you along to get your money and are not a true reflection of dating as the women get paid to post. Unless you’re talking eharmony; that’s legit

@MichaelSpinler assumptions, assumptions and an inability to converse about the topic at hand. Good evening.

@girlwithsmiles this motherfucker honestly went and accused you and this post of man-bashing and being sexist... yeesh sounds like an incel! Yikes! I guess the OP had to specifically state this is about this demographic of men, NOT ALL MEN! NOT ALL MEN! NOT ALL MEN! And yes multiple times in caps locks because the notallmen brigade are kinda slow and do not catch it if you say it once in lowercase letters... trust me I've tried. xD

Zzz start a post of your own, what part of, ‘this one is for the ladies’ don’t you get?
It’s one thing to be the first one to comment fishing for complements, but I don’t want your sexist bullshit on this post. Move along.

@girlwithsmiles Oh insulting men, which you did with obvious relish, is one thing. But when men fire back, it's sexist bullshit...
I see.
I will say the women here are of a much higher caliber, overall, than those on your typical "dating site." Probably because this isn't "really" a dating site. Not to me, anyway.

@Storm1752 see comment above to Spinler. I’m not insulting men, I’m discussing what women find attractive or not in a photo on an online dating site. You could read and educate yourself, but you chose to jump to another man’s defence when you see him get challenged.
I’m pretty sure GI can answer for himself... in fact he did so, also above.
Wow this post is hard work! Lols.

They’re all yours

If men could fish from their cars they would be in heaven.

Oh yes, and shirtless. That puts me off, especially if it’s a selfie taken laying on a bed!

I didn't understand a word of that? Singlets? Bears?

@PondartIncbendog Singlet-British for undershirt, either tee or (usually) wife beater.

@girlwithsmiles no clothes, no contact. Period!