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So much for those who claimed Judaism was the least mysogynistic religion. [bbc.com]

Mofo1953 9 Jan 13
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Hardly

bobwjr Level 10 Mar 26, 2020
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The arrest follows a raid on a complex in Jerusalem, where the alleged victims are believed to have been kept isolated from their families.
The women had been punished in various ways and had money stolen from them, police said.
The suspect, in his 60s, has denied doing anything wrong.

He was detained in an ultra-Orthodox district in central Jerusalem on suspicion of running a "closed community" where women and children "worked under conditions of slavery", police said in a statement.
He and eight female accomplices are suspected of isolating the women in a residential complex, along with children up to the age of five, it added.
"We know that the women and children were there forVideo footage showed bunk beds in cramped living quarters, along with piles of cash.
A two-month investigation was launched after police received reports the religious leader had for years committed "severe offences" against those living at the residence, police said. several months inside the home," police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld is quoted as saying by the Associated Press. "We know that he took their money away from them and was holding them against their will."

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Who claimed that? They separate everything, no access to the Wailing Wall or Torah, women working so their men can study the Torah 24/7? , the ritual bath after menstruation to remove the "uncleanliness", aaaannnnnddd etc.........not to mention pesky kosher cooking rules

lot's of jewish scholars, they claim they can't be because they're "matriarchal'", I say BS!

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Isn't this an argument for what is more wrong, "rape and murder" or "murder and rape?"

Both are bad.

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I think there's a difference between the Jewish culture that many people are familiar with through popular stereotypes, and then Orthodox Judaism and the Torah. Orthodox Judaism and the Torah are about as misogynistic as you can get.

Still jewish or not?

@Mofo1953 In the same sense that both the Unitarians and the Westboro Baptist Church are Christian.
One can point to very liberal and egalitarian sects of any religion, and then point to very conservative branches; but the existence of the liberal denominations doesn't negate the fact that they're all based on the same book, and the conservative branches emphasize those parts they choose.

@Paul4747 my post clearly says judaism and it encompasses the religion not facets or branches, I stand by my comment.

@maturin1919 not really, first of all I am referring to those here who keep saying, like apparently you, that judaism is the least mysoginistic religion, second, I've said all religions are mysoginistic, period, no exceptions, I'm not painting anything they are not, or you think the hassidic or ultraconservative jews who thank their god everyday for not being female is not mysoginy? Finally, I fail to see how to say something that is 100% true is dishonest. I'm not saying they are the most nor that they are the second most or any type of ranking, just that they are also mysoginistic. So explain to me why to tell the truth, supported with an article that I linked, is "intellectually dishonest."?

@maturin1919 my post only speaks of MYSOGINY so either read properly or just STFU.

@Paul4747 Unitarians Universalists are not Christian, though there are Christians that belong to the Unitarian Universalist congregations because of their beliefs in justice, democracy, freethinking, and respect for all.

@Rosemary .... I was tired.

@maturin1919 no who interacts with mofo more than a few times will ever mistake him for someone with intellectual honesty. His argument style is attack the words not the message. I've been hanging out around "umm, actually" nerds my entire life and this guy is even worse. Check out his profile, he nearly breaks his neck trying to please himself over how intelligent and well read and worldly he is.

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Depends upon which sub-cult is assessed. Very minor.

Even if all 20,000,000 jews were so stupid, there is NO comparison to 1,600,000,000 muslims.

All religions are backward, we do not discriminate based on numbers of brainwashed.

@Mofo1953 . . . Yes. The vid/link was about how some jewish sub-cults do not practice equality.

Nearly all muslims are adherents to such evil.

@Jacar so are all religions.

Geebus, do you have OCD that bad that you have to drag "Muslims" into every single tjing?

@AnneWimsey islam has been spreading by violence, suppressing all, commanding total allegiance, for 1400 years. I will continue to sound the alarm against this darkness. You should too.

@Jacar ummm, no thanks, mass unreasoning hatred of Huge diverse groups is not one of my hobbies.

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No one says that though Muslim takes the lead

bobwjr Level 10 Jan 14, 2020

I hear it all the time from friends and family. See my comment below.

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I know of no such claims within the Jewish faith.

However, this was quite lulzy here...

This is quite an eye opener. Would have never thought of it existing in this day, and age.

@Slava3 - Right?!?

That was going on from the mid 80's until just recently!

Totally freaky....

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I can’t remember hearing anyone make such a claim, but even if they did, a single counter-example would not disprove the assertion.

What I’ve read is that the Celtic and Germanic tribes of Northern Europe were the ones most favorable to women.

I hear it all the time because I have many Jewish friends and relatives by marriage, they claim tgat unlike catholics, there are female rabbis, that israel considered women as equal that is why women serve since their creation of the country in the military, etcetera. It is not just this example, orthodix and Hasidic jews do it and say it all the time.

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I have no problem with the link but it is time to do MUCH more study of Judaism.

Go ahead then. Who's stopping you?

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Doesn’t relate to any Jewish people I have known,but then they have been Secular Jews.

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That is complete nonsense about Judaism. Very religious Jewish women are only looked at as baby makers, they have many laws, women are not allowed to show their hair, thus wear wigs, the man is the boss, education is not allowed either.

Israeli women have always served in the army, many jewish friends I have and also many jews here have said what you call nonsense. Not all jews are orthodox.

@Mofo1953 how many women are Rabbis?

@MsDemeanour there are many female Rabbis, but I don't know how many, could be thousands, I don't know. [en.m.wikipedia.org]

@Mofo1953 true but many are orthodox

@Mofo1953 As you can see I am talking about orthodox Jewish women. They don’t serve in the army.

@Jolanta i was told only the ultra orthodox or haredim are the ones who refuse to serve in spite on a law that requires all jews be drafted.

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The Abrahmaaic faiths are all equally prone to misogyny.

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The Torah /! Old Testament from what o remember had plenty to say about women and pit a bunch of the blame for what men did that was sexually inappropriate on the woman .

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Yeah, that's always been a damnable lie.

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