You are right. Atheists do not take the trouble over presentation that preachers do. How do we alter that? It is all in the psychology of communication.

@Mcflewster sounds like somethng above my paygrade.

@HankSherman Depends on what you want to achieve. It is not going to be easy to get rid of religion , but I suppose you knew that already.

@Mcflewster mainly focused on getting rid of trump...maybe if that gets accomplished, I'll have the confidence to tackle religion.....it would be a goal to strive for.

@HankSherman He does have a lot of FAITH in religion - I suspect only for electoral purposes as he would not actually like being outshon by Jesus. Can you not see that a blow against religion actually helps to get rid of him? > I can see the difficulties in actually believing that.

@Mcflewster I don't have a problem seeing that, its just that trump seems to be the more vulnerable, and is an immediate threat to America, and americans....yeah...trump is about as religious as a rattlesnake.