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How often are "mock prep" exercises like Crimson Contagion participated in? How much money was spent on this exercise? If the outcomes as stated on wikipedia were only to show serious inherent flaws in government preparation for a pandemic, what immediate governmental actions were taken to remedy the situations in all levels of effected government? Where can you learn more about it?

Has New Zealand ever participated in similar exercises? How many billions and billions has that nation spent on biodefense over the years? I just don't see the effectiveness coming through on US end as we imported this virus and now lead the world in number of cases. Do we say"we are larger" So is China, much larger. Do we say "we are more free" okay, but also more numbers dead and more money spent to prevent this? DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

Flowerwall 7 Apr 17
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Most simulations are conducted on yellow legal pads, between two teams of "experts"-- the 'blue' team, and the 'red' team.

Okay. What about simulation exercises that occur on the federal level and involve vast sums of tax payer dollars? Where can we find out about those? I am sure very useful data must be generated and acted upon otherwise the exercises would just appear as very expensive play. Vast sums of money, how does the average citizen learn about the useful information generated? We all need to be talking about pandemic preparedness, every which way. This simulation exercise seems like the perfect place to start the scrutiny. Where is the information accessible? Even wikipedia seems to be lacking here, no links or further information about other simulations or actions taken in response to this simulation. Given the current pandemic we are leading the world in, and I don't mean that in a flattering way, why isn't it being put out there? This was a DRILL, we should be comparing this drill to our current reality and other countries reality and looking for every mistake and everything right.

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What's your point?

What's yours?

@Flowerwall what are you trying to say?

@Mofo1953 Questioning. I am questioning. I want usefulness for tax dollars spent. Is that a pointless line of thought?

@Flowerwall yes, because of the situation we are all in. You're very touchy, my question was to request clarification not to insult, demean or be sarcastic.

@Mofo1953 No. You may be perceiving something that is not there with regard to my emotion. Not sure why you are assuming so. I want to understand my government's use of resources better and instead get labelled as being oversensitive or irritable? Hmm. What do you think about the government's response? I haven't heard that yet in your post here. Talk about it. I want to know more. Your opinion. I want to hear a lot of ideas!

@Flowerwall I think it was insufficient for the people and too generous for businesses.

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So in 2019 the HHS Dept. 'from January to August 2019 that tested the capacity of the U.S. federal government and twelve U.S. states to respond to a severe influenza pandemic originating in China' (from wiki -- [en.m.wikipedia.org] ) and concluded that our government had 'limited capacity to respond to a pandemic, with federal agencies lacking the funds, coordination, and resources to facilitate an effective response to the virus'.

Consider my sarcastic comment made -- I'm deeply disappointed, but not surprised, by our leaders.

I AM surprised. But that's only one adjective that describes my response. I hope to list the others shortly.

An interesting article which lead me to this one.

"... they did note that the - that there was a flu (Crimson Contagion) in that case and a virus (Covid-19) in this case. And they said, well, that's very different - maybe that they're different diseases, but they had similar - very similar problems."

[npr.org]

@AstralSmoke 'that's very different' ... 'maybe that they're different diseases'?
Flu is caused by a virus. It sounds to me like they're reaching.

As for being surprised. I think that this is exactly what to expect when anti-science, tax-cutting, austerity-promoting, extraction-economy 'capitalists' are allowed rein.
From the moment tRump and McConnell were elected our only hope was that no crisis would happen to appear. That would have taken seriously good luck -- and we didn't get it.

@RichCC I added that quote because there is at least one person on this site that doesn't like it when I compare the Coronavirus to the flu. They are different diseases, but they share many similarities.

@AstralSmoke I missed the nuance -- sorry. Lol.😎

I guess it kind of depends on the nature of the comparison. They are obviously different genetically.
I was distracted by the thought that they are so similar -- both being RNA entities rather than DNA. I'm trying to get my arms around what that all means in terms of mutation rates and how often new vaccines have to be developed. 😎

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