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Europe's daily Covid deaths rose by nearly 40% compared with the previous week, the World Health Organization (WHO) has told the BBC.

WHO spokeswoman Dr Margaret Harris said France, Spain, the UK, the Netherlands and Russia accounted for the majority of cases which increased by a third.

"The concern... is that intensive care units in hospitals are now beginning to fill with very ill people," she warned.

Russia reported a daily record of 320 deaths, pushing the tally to 26,589.

There has been a sharp increase in Italy too, with 221 fatalities announced in the past 24 hours. The total number of fatalities in Austria went above 1,000 on Tuesday.

Russia has the world's fourth highest number of Covid-19 cases after the US, India and Brazil. It recorded another 16,550 infections on Tuesday alone and authorities have now made the wearing of face masks compulsory in all crowded places.

[www].bbc.com/news/world-europe-54704677

Petter 9 Oct 27
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The Death rates for this Virus are being cooked everywhere, in the US it is worse as Kills with Covid has control of the numbers.

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I am so ashamed that we Americans are #1. Thanks Trump

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Only now masks in public places, it feels like common sense once you get close, surely?

@luckytobealive assumptions? I don’t try, I do use them and notice you provide no links 🙂 mine has a hepa filter. But there have also been studies that any particulate plume prevention may help, if you have covid.

@OldMetalHead

[mayoclinic.org]

[who.int]

[eurjmedres.biomedcentral.com]

I’ll keep wearing my mask thanks. I only spent a lot of time in close proximity with my partner and he, luckily, agrees with me 😉

I’m not sure who you spend a lot of time with, but hopefully they think like you too, or they could be stressed which also lowers immunity!

@luckytobealive You've been reading too much social media and not enough medical media.
A decent mask gives the wearer about 20% protection from others, but IT GIVES OTHERS AROUND 70% PROTECTION FROM THE WEARER.

Touching a surface that contains the virus is safe - until you pick your nose. (or more polite people rub their eyes, etc.)

@luckytobealive Not scientifically proven at all. Even a cloth mask reduces the spray of particulates and therefore virus that you exhale if you have an asymptomatic infection. You exhale fewer and they don't travel as far. On the other side of the coin, any protection at all is better than nothing.
Masks alone won't do it. Masks, social distancing, frequent hand washing and sanitation will help keep the virus in check.

@luckytobealive no it doesn’t. Did you not look at the links? This subject is beginning to bore me and no one is adding new information to refute that which I’ve provided. So take your unfounded views and propaganda and I’ll stick to the evidence collated to date.

@luckytobealive so what you have shown is that there is evidence for both sides of the story, and personally I prefer my sources to yours, so we will have to agree to disagree on this one. [smithsonianmag.com]
They’re not saying what kind of masks are being used. They’re definitely not saying don’t use one lols.

@luckytobealive well as i only wear one a few hours usually for the weekly shop and then dry it out thoroughly, I’m not going to worry too much. I do believe that self isolation is your best chance of avoiding the virus.

@luckytobealive I also have been reading Scientific Journals and talking with researchers and I am finding that masks are the best defense the normal person has. What needs to be done is to keep the particles coming out of a person's mouth and nose from going into common space. This is how the virus propagates. If you do not wear a mask and you have the virus, even with no symptoms, you will infect others. And if you think Herd immunity will save us then you should be put in jail for murder. Herd immunity means that over 70% of the population would need to have had the virus and survive, while there is a 1% mortality rate. This means that in the US since the population is about 330,000,000, 3,300,000 would have to die. Want to be one of the dead?

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  1. Deaths in excess in Russia are very high, this indicates that numbers are being cooked there.
  2. The rest of Europe is testing a lot more so even with more infections registered than the first wave, the real situation is no as bad YET.
    2a)Testing capacities in some countries are already at limit, and they are returning to testing only symptomatic cases, it is important to put this "changes of policy" on the charts as they impact a lot in the numbers.
  3. All countries (France, Spain, Italy, Czech) are having a crisis at the same time, so when combining the continent it seems bad.
  4. Conspirationism from USA had time to enter in European alt-right and percolate on the general population, creating all the Covidot-types we saw in the former british colony.
  5. The governments are holding hard measures thinking that they can hold it without severe measures, that is failing up to now, we will see the development in the next weeks as the cases that are starting now achieve the intensive care level (it can take up to 2 weeks for the severe cases to develop).
  6. When infection rates start falling down, the intensive care demand still goes up for some days before falling, I hope the governments will issue restrictions before saturating the intensive care.

7)Before someone talks about Sweden, their infeCtion rates are increasing and they already have more people in intensive care/habitants than the other nordic countries, so THEY ARE NOT DOING WELL IN COMPARISON WITH SIMILAR COUNTRIES.

8)MY OPINION - Europe in general was to optimistic in summer and a continent wide lockdown as done in the first wave is needed to fight the second wave. The governments are too afraid to do the necessary as population is not so eager to accept it again (before they see bad numbers on deaths).

There are also riots in major Italian and Spanish cities against the restrictions, further complicating matters.

@luckytobealive Oh yeah, in relation to the nordic neighbors that have similar societies they have more infected per capita, more deaths per capita (total), are already with more hospitalized per capita now, with infection rate increasing in relation to the neighbors (already practically the same as DK and catching up with IC) using their own data. But of course you can cherry pick one statistics to prove your point =).
Lets see how it ages ok

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Following the same pattern as the1918 epidemic

bobwjr Level 10 Oct 28, 2020

My thoughts exactly, human nature doesn’t change much in a century.

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Why wasn't the wearing of masks made compulsory to protect citizens in the first place? The virus is still around and no successful vaccine to date. We've been wearing masks in public places, malls etc from when lockdown started in March. No Mall or shop will allow a customer in without a mask. Securities escort them out the mall's premises and out of parking bay. You are simply not allowed anywhere without a mask in South Africa....and every shop still provide hand sanitiser when entering and leaving. There are different wipes for trolley handles. If there's no vaccine then a mask, physical distancing and hand sanitising is still very necessary.

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Awww hell. I just stay away from people.

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In the US, I believe it was yesterday, new cases topped 80,000. That is more than
at any point this year.

45 should be arrested, tried, convicted, and imprisoned for criminally endangering the public health.
If we don't get rid of him SOON, we're looking at 500,000 dead before winter ends.

I don't care how it gets done. He needs to GO.
If you haven't voted yet (US residents), what the fuck are you waiting for?

You almost made it to the end of that without swearing. In all fairness, I can't make it through any discussion about that fuckstick without swearing either.

See?

I would just love to see him go up the river.

But, realistically probably will never happen. It’s true he has been under investigation here in NY by federal and local prosecutors.

Even if he was arrested, booked, and eventually found guilty the most likely scenario would be is heavy fines, possibly even go bankrupt from what he might spend on lawyers and other legal expenses. and possibly probation.

@SeaRay215ex Even if, by some miracle, he was somehow held accountable for once in his worthless life, he'd still screw us all by dying before he'd served any time or paid one cent in fines.

That shitgibbon.

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This isn't over until humans become something similar to responsible.
Not everything is political, and this is why Trump needs to be brought to justice.

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Yes, but in America Jebus will protect you and you have a good given right not to wear a mask and it is also in the Constitution. NOT

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