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I’m becoming increasingly concerned at what damage to the long term health of large numbers of people will be found in the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic. I fear that both physical and possibly more importantly, widespread mental health problems will last long after the pandemic has receded.

First we will have those who contracted the disease who will suffer from Long Covid which is a debilitating illness very similar to ME. Also in this category of those who recovered are those who are left with poor lung function and who may continue to need oxygen.

Then there will be the ones who have had medical conditions worsen during the pandemic due to lack of attention during covid because the hospitals were only admitting covid patients, procedures deferred turning ailments into chronic illness.

Thirdly there will be the people whose mental health has suffered due to isolation during lockdown, causing a variety of depressive illnesses, and another group who will be suffering from acute anxiety and worry about catching covid which can become a psychosis, turning them into recluses and shutting themselves off from society. Not something you can just shake off and come out of again easily.

Lastly there will be the group who didn’t trust the vaccine and believed in the alternative treatments such as Ivermectin, a deworming medicine for animals, or perhaps some other crackpot suggestion like drain cleaner or bleach. This group is an unknown quantity, but those who don’t take fatal dosages could also find they have to live with long term health issues..the hospitals in some parts of America are already treating large numbers of people in this category.

So I believe our health professionals could be treating COVID-19 patients for many years to come, one way or another.

Marionville 10 Sep 2
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And that’s assuming that more virulent mutations don’t follow on the heels of the Delta, which is already far worse than the original and affecting much younger victims. This is nature’s way of affecting population growth, and with large number of people worldwide refusing the vaccine or not having it available, the outcome may be grim.

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Precisely

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Are things in the UK and other countries as screwed up as the United States? I get the feeling not.

Not as screwed up in my opinion…although we do have a small number of refuseniks and vaccine deniers here too.

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I love my work for most waking hours of my life, if you love your wallet most, so sad. About 80% don't like their work probably the saddest story of all time , of wasting one's life away.

How can I feel so sorry for covid victims when all combined deaths are 78%obese or 75% over age 80+. About 0.005 combined covid death in the world. Add it all to the scape pile of covid world order that has cause additional hundreds of other kinds of causes of death. If the weak and old cause by gain covid 19 pounds with free money and time. Can't feel sorry for stupidity, as it is not worth far less than 1% apathy
given it to covid death. Or I would be crying forever for in my lifetime of more flu deaths than covid relationship. Don't personally know any covid I hear 100 covid deaths compared to 10,000 heart disease death in my maritime area. Rather have compassion for the 99% of other health condition of mind and body.

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Some people give me a sad odd covid story. Which mean very little to me when there are 99%plus other illnesses or ways to die that are a far greater concern.

This is a third world war by the snythic wealthy world vs the rest of the people who don't belong to their exclusive club. Everything coded for the snythic anything natural can empower the people. That is why one third of small business have been destroyed and my arts and entertainment business has been wiped out. Three largest scammers in order banks, Government and pharmaceutical they are playing for complete dictatorship and ownership, yet like always will fail in the long run as empires and kings do.
The true distiny of the Beautiful living is the kingdom within ourselves.

Ah . Here we are . The last piece of the puzzle .
Your buisness . Your art work . Wiped out .
Cry me a f river . Of course . Y will worry about covid , covid destroyed your wallet . Well , what we gonna do about that , that’s some shit right here .
I give two fucks about your wallet .
And .
U got me in a really bad morning .
I had quiet enough w your bullshit , u know ?
3 hrs ago I send a 53 yr old at the morgue . A 53 yr other ways healthy man . W kids in college . A man w minor GI issues and minor hypertension issues . He fought that shit and we fought w him for 10 days . Tonight we had to let him go after he coded twice . The last one for almost 45 mnt .
While u cry about your wallet and u insist that covid is not a big f deal , his daughters are down stairs bcz couldn’t even visiting their father at his MICU room .
Here is your sad story . Moron .
I am done w u .

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One of my dearest friends barely survived COVID-19, he didn't have any underlying conditions, now he does. He was in a coma for 6 months and had to learn how to walk again, he's depends on an oxygen tank and his doctor's give him 3-5 year's more to live. I saw him and his wife last week and he seems to be improving and I hope he keeps it going. His wife is a nurse, so she was able to get him the best care that she could. Their insurance is no longer paying for his physical therapy, so they're doing fundraiser's for him this weekend, yeah covid is no joke!

I’m so sorry to hear that, it’s going to be tough for him and his wife, having to worry about paying the medical bills was another consequence I didn’t factor into my piece. That is something nobody in an any country should have to worry them when in his situation, sadly the USA really lags behind in not having universal healthcare.

Only in America is someone who gets seriously ill and needs lots of expensive care and hospital stays forced to pawn their dignity and rely on fundraising efforts from friends and neighbors to pay their bills, often even in cases where the patient had good health insurance. They have to beg from their neighbors when it should be covered by the government, but the private drug companies and the private healthcare system are solely about sucking every dollar they can out of people before they die, rather than about making them well or serving the public. The only country in the developed world where medical bankruptcies are common.

That by itself should be enough to make most Americans open to trying socialism, but too many are still brainwashed against it and the corporate media is too powerful in preaching against it.

@TomMcGiverin
Hey, next the covaids are coming for your social security Since 95% covid deaths are age 50 and over. Pension cost them more than the national debt. Covid it's a gold mine for billionaire even more than vaccines which is part of the deal anyway, good health is not practice.

@Marionville My friends are selling their house and moved in with her parents that's how bad it is financially for them. I try to help them as much as I can, when I can. Yes, the healthcare system here is a disaster. We need universal healthcare but you're right we're brainwashed so bad here. Instead of our money being used to help one another, people here rather use it for unnecessary wars to kill people.

@Castlepaloma There's some truth in that. I have no doubt that some of Trump's motivation for letting Covid run wild was that his rich donors wanted Covid to kill many seniors and reduce the payments that would otherwise by made by Social Security. While the Dem Party is also not really that friendly to SS, the Repubs have always been against it and want to eliminate it completely.

@TomMcGiverin
Politician are so extremely two faced, broken promises and false statements. Now Trump took the vaccines even after he caught covid. Now he encouraged others to take the vaccines.
Why many people waste their time over politicians is beyond me.

If Trump eliminate social security on his next term.
There would be too many axes and pitched forks to the Government to deal with. Covid a nice slower an unnoticed way to get rid of senior

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All valid concerns, and all will have grave consequences.

Sadly so I’m afraid.

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What is ME? I agree that there will be long term effects both at the personal level and the societal level.

Myalgic Encephalomyelitis - also known as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or CFS.

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So many have brought this catastrophe upon themselves but like any catastrophe it affects many people other than the root cause.

Yes…some predictable others sadly not.

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This is so true 🙁

Sadly so…and you will realise this probably more than most of us.

Loved your response to the asshole who is resentful his business dried up. While I do find the rate of obesity and other issues related to poor eating habits troubling the real underlying issue are people like that a-hole who think COVID is nothing more than a serious cold or flu. Fueled by social media and networks like fox, oann and of course the ex-president and his supporters too many have chosen poorly. Poor choice had led to many innocent people becoming ill, dying or suffering the long term effects and there NO WAY to know what each outcome will be.
Long term issues for decades to come.

@silverotter11 i can’t possibly tell u what I see every week . I don’t understand y they don’t believe us , or , what’s more important than health . I don’t understand anymore . When vaccines rolled out , we celebrated . Really , I personally took two nights off and actually went to a local hotel to swim and have two or three glasses of wine . That’s how happy and relief I felt . Nine months later , and I don’t understand y these people resist health , resist the re opening actually of a better economy , resist everything ! I don’t get it anymore 🙁

@silverotter11

One can't master life, if you don't love what you do. Just shit all over yourself, if you don't like your work for most of the time. The billionaire asshole you support whole heartedly will pile on far greater toxic deadliest royal shit all over till the day you die.

What amount of shit can a poorest paid professional as an artist could possibly dump on yeah. Artist act as the nevious system in society. Billionaire are the terrorist and don't care for you at all, at all. Continue 2, 3 or 4 more years of their deadliest shit known to human kind billionaire profiteering

Just building tiny houses and organic food for the stable balance minded ones, no more millions of attendance crowds for me. Divorce, division , labels and conquer is where you want to be, not knowingly.

@Castlepaloma for your bad luck , u are talking to someone who graduated fine arts university in 1993 , had her own gallery and can paint pretty well . Save your preaching about art and artistic minds for someone that can be impressed by this . Done that , and most likely better than u pops .
Art and art creation and appreciation is not placing u or me in any more sophisticating place than joe the plumber.
If u need explanation for above sentence , then I can assure u , your “ art “ is for the birds .
Also , asshole , when u are able to do my job and my profession for one f day , then u can criticize the medical field and u can have opinions of what “ hate “. I can do your job . . We don’t hate r jobs . We hate u . Assholes like u . And . We still taking care your sorry asses when u end up in r hands w covid .

@Castlepaloma Clearly you have no idea about my beliefs or ideals. Been an artist, been a farmer. Worked on water and land issues. I grow organic produce, do not suport the 1% with all the wealth and was not even talking to you in the first place.

@Pralina1

I would challenge your art road record , if it's were anywhere near touring 4 and a half continents lasting 45years. Or If it's better than being a major feature drawing physical crowds over18 million in one year. Then I would be impressed. So far found no one who has match this. Master 3 three sculpture material and international awards in a total 6 sculpture materials. International travel restrictions like most veteran or world renowned artist and entertainers had stopped too,. As you would have noticed if you were near this level of love for your work.

Force to switch to growing organic food and medicine with love, like they are the Gods. I learn from a 107 year old medicine man in my second home in Belize. Not impressed with main stream doctors living below the average life expectancy. Vaccines reopen nothing, it's only double the speed of covid deaths since the roll out and expect much worst in the near future. Don't worry they will always blame it on the unvaccinated til most people wake up.

I hate no one and not against anything. Just got too much on my plate to for bleeding hearts and grand apathy for the massed who abuse their body. Then genocide themselves with vaccines who are most worldly sued pharmaceutical billionaire.Gamble those terrible numbers with your life, not with my life or family.

@silverotter11

I was generally addressing the billionaire and their many supporters. Who many here are downing me for being unvaccinated. Don't know which part you thought was a personal attack on you.

You did state Nine months later , and I don’t understand y these people resist health , resist the re opening actually of a better economy , resist everything ! I don’t get it anymore.

Maybe I didn't understand anything you said.

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