One of the aspects of history Americans are ignorant of, Putin was only too happy to join the west and NATO. It was Washington's need for an enemy to excuse our mind numbing military pork barrel spending that prevented such. "Richard Sakwa, Professor of Russian and European Politics at Kent, who has written extensively on Putin, says that Putin has never subscribed to a "virulent anti-Westernism." He has called Putin "the most European leader Russia has ever had." During his first several years in office, Sakwa says Putin attempted "to forge a closer relationship with the European Union" and that he "envisaged Russia joining NATO" to form a "greater West" and "even suggested membership [in] NATO." Putin did not formally ally with the West, not because of a lack of willingness, but because Washington vetoed the idea of Russia’s membership in NATO." The Dangers of Regime Change: After Putin:
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.This poster also thinks the USA has declared war against Russia, just sayin'......
AnneWimsey
Level 9
June 10, 2022
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Russia isn't a country, it's a crime syndicate. It can't be treated like a real country because it's run entirely as a criminal enterprise, without any regard for it's citizens.
BitFlipper
Level 8
June 10, 2022
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I have been trying to develop as objective an opinion as possible about Russia and the US involvement since the invasion of Ukraine. A lot of the relevant info is contradictory and I never feel like we are really getting the full story. I know that I don't support the invasion of Ukraine but that doesn't make the US is innocent in its role in this and other wars. I know I also don't support the US pouring $100 million a day into Ukraine.
What evidence did you use to arrive at your position on Russia?
For decades I have believed on the integrity and objectivity of Chomsky. Please feel free to watch as much or as little of this as you'd like.
Don’t buy this propaganda, the events of history tell a different story. Do your own research.
Willow_Wisp
Level 8
June 9, 2022
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Great argument! Snort. I'm familiar with America's 75 year old demonization of Russia, we made this, Putin is not some Hitleresque monster and the other twaddle so beloved of Dems these days. America can fight Russia to the last Ukrainian and feel noble about it! Sorry, just another American instigated war, as America has been so fond of since 1848.
Heaven forbid Russia comes on board and we all start working together toward world peace and progress. We can not have that.
LovinLarge
Level 8
June 9, 2022
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Of what need is a NATO if Russia is a member? The entire idea of NATO is protection from Russia.
rainmanjr
Level 8
June 9, 2022
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puff:
No, a large reason for NATO is to stop European countries fighting each other. NATO was an alliance to counter not Russia as such, but the USSR which sought to spread its ideology world wide. When the USSR collapsed, no need for NATO as a deterrent anymore really.
A combination of Russia and the EU would be a direct threat to US homogony which is why it was opposed.
NATO should have been disbanded after Libya, as the destruction of that country opened the floodgates of undocumented migration from Africa and the ME into Europe (why was NATO formed again? Something to do with protecting Europe from "invasion"?)
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