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This site, the members - all of us - outwardly deny the existence of deity.
Yet the preponderance of discussion I have read here is based on religion.
Perhaps this is developmental. This may be a nascent effort. The discussions are therefore relatively "young".
Like a new club formed in response to another group the members of this newly minted club are all interested in reinforcing their reasons for belonging to THIS club - not that other one.
Anyhow.
I don't want to talk about religion. I reject it. Utterly.
It is the root cause of mankind's most horrible behaviors.

Andee 4 Apr 26
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Interesting post. I've often pondered why "religion" became a core need of our species. I get the need to explain the unexplainable. But Damn!!! Religion just seems so embedded in our collective psyche.
Why?

Because sadly some people need to be told not to rape and murder other people. How many theists have you heard say that if they didn't have their religion they wouldn't stop themselves from raping and stealing and murdering? Personally I've heard a ton of them say it. Without that book imagine how many more serial killers and rapists would be out there running the streets.

@MamaMOB craziness

@MamaMOB I'm pretty sure the behaviour of nomadic desert peoples needed a little guidance. Most of the old testament/qu'ran/ torah stems from a ten square mile area in the middle east. Interesting strictures such as not having sex with an octopus or squid leads me to assume that at one point somone (probably a man) had a bash at it. The prescence of an all seeing god theoretically helped to keep the people on track. However the prescence numerically of sexual/violent crime varies very little between cultures places and times. Sadly religion has little or no effect on our natural nastiness or goodness. It does havecan influence on what we regard as good or bad eg homosexuality, forceful women etc. One good reason for not having it in my humble opinion.

@Gogster I disagree that religion has little to no effect. We've had religion since before we had the written word. So we have no way of knowing how we all would act without. I do believe there are people who are either too stupid or uncaring to realize that rape, murder, theft is wrong. Because of that they need someone to tell them. Religion fulfills that purpose. I trust people when they tell me that without a book they would be out there doing these things. I take them at their word.

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I for one am not Atheist, but Agnostic. I do not know how to prove or disprove that she exists. I do however believe in Santa! I believe that religions only purpose is to get people to behave better and that science is the correct method in our search for GOD< TRUTH??????????

I am an atheist myself but while I do not believe God Exists we do know Santa has a historical basis in reality, this is provable so I too believe in Santa in that way!

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Religion does not play any significant part of my life. However I live in a largely secular society (UK). So many of this site come from the bible belt and or theist families. They need someone to discuss this with. Also how can you keep religion out of your govt unless you band together. If this is not your cup of tea fair enough. There is music, movies, pets, politics jokes and all kinds of groups to talk in, welcome

You are lucky your country grew up and evolved into the secular nation it is today, a far cry from those days in history where one could lose their life for worshiping god in the wrong denomination. I just wish America would catch up to the rest of Europe and England,

@misstuffy Well as Monty Python would say " Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition "

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Don't tell people unless it comes up.

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Religion is the root of all evil? Now that’s what I call a true re-evaluation of all values, in the Nitzschean sense. I actually think that people are the root of all that is evil and of all that is good. If atheism became as common as white bread at the supermarket, people would still do bad things.

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It's a fair point

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I am guessing i am the Sheila you were speaking of?

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Not me .. I was over that at about 5 lol

It's just where those people are! No thing - some need the bonding and thats cool if it works ?

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Duh.....

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Nice grand entrance into the community.

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There is so much more here than talk about religion. Look around, you'll find all kinds of subjects.

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So don't talk about it. No one is forcing you to.

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Lot's of good suggestions here. I did not know we could filter them but that is what I am going to do. I get myself way too worked up when I see post headings discussing religion even though I know it is an important discussion to many (apparently) so filtering them sounds like a great plan for me.

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You show a good point and I for one call myself very spiritual. All things are made up of the same star dust, as Sagan used to say. To hold that there is no connection of energy is of course foolish. But take it further and go deep inside to the other voice, each and every one of us has in their head, The one that talks to you and carries on a conversation. The brain part of me is small compared to the one that calls all the shots, who the hell is that, but me

EMC2 Level 8 Apr 26, 2018
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There are those who are fence-sitters, and even those that have to deal with a highly religious family. Though yes I do get that it can be frustrating to not find a plethora of folks who are as solid in their lack of belief as we are. Then again, I feel that to shut out that conversation entirely makes me no better than theists that do the same thing. I find it limiting, and though I may come across someone that ends up with an 'agree to disagree' settlement; at least you can know where they stand.
At the end of the day people will use the position of the sun to justify horrible behaviors; humans are pretty brutal animals.

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AGREED, I swear. And I will never mention religion again. Thank you!

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