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Artificial intelligence... The "singularity" is probably going to happen within our lifetime. It will be either the best, or the worst thing that ever happened to humanity. What do you think will be the result, when our machines become infinitely smarter than us?

I'm watching with apprehension, hoping for the best. It could be great, maybe lead to the sort of Utopia that Gene Roddenberry wrote of; but it also might lead to horrible things.

I'm going to stay optimistic, and think of what great things AI has already shown us in medicine... I hope that it's a big problem solver, and not the end of times...

Thoughts? When it happens, it will be the closest thing there ever was to any sort of real God.

StylisticIdiot 6 Apr 26
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You say probably the singularity will happen based upon what evidence?

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"What do you think will be the result, when our machines become infinitely smarter than us?"
I do not see the two as separate.
Humans evolved biologically until we evolved enough brain to evolve socially.
Then human evolution (and several other species evolution as well) began to evolve both biologically and socially. Social evolution is much faster.
Social evolution in turn made technological evolution a possibility. When and if the singularity takes place any resulting intelligence will either be augmented human or true AI, in both cases it would be the next evolutionary step of humanity in my view; the next evolution of consciousness.
The human form, in particular the brain, has been the house for consciousness(and far from the only house), if we develop a new house for it we either must inhabit it ourselves our invent a consciousness to inhabit it.
In either scenario we evolved to the next phase of humanity, whether clad in silicone or carbon.

We might view it as foreign or alien, but it would very much be our child, our next evolution, our Ultron.

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No, you've got it all wrong. It will be the antichrist, not a god. 😛

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This is probably not going to come into being any time in the near future. As for whether AI can become sentient, that is a possibility but I doubt we will ever see a "machine takeover" scenario. I have high hopes for the future of AI and our species.

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I know what the cynic in me wants to see......lol

Proto Level 6 Apr 27, 2018
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it will not happen within our lifetime.

Oh, but will... I don't think many people are aware of what's going on now- and that's just what we know about. There's certainly much more research that is hidden from view. Machine learning is a stunningly powerful thing... Paired with the sorts of hardware advancement that's going on, it's likely to happen in the next ten years, if not sooner.

@StylisticIdiot this is my profession and the field I am published in. It will not happen in our lifetimes, not the singularity as it has been described by kurzweil and others. The technological process will be impressive but true machine intelligence, no. Not at 100x current cloud compute density, maybe not even 1000.

@jperlow I'm humbled, and sort of hope you're right. Still, there's a whole lot of chatter from people in your ranks who would disagree. In any case, thanks for your insight.

@StylisticIdiot I came out of the part of IBM that created Watson and I worked at the part of Microsoft that created Azure. machine intelligence is not just a function of the hardware. To create something like Alexa you need the power of multiple Amazon datacenters filled with compute nodes, and Alexa is prettty stupid. Google dedicates a lot more compute power to its voice assistant and that too, is pretty stupid. As automation engines it’s impressive, as AI for generalized purposes, no. If we see major advances in quantum computing that can speed up compute cycles by a factor of say, 10,000 in the cloud, we could have something maybe as intelligent as a eight year old child, maybe. But there’s little chance of making a robot that isn’t dependent on cloud intelligent like that, you need massive amounts of compute. And not just compute an entirely new way of programming and representing data that does not exist today. We will see smarter expert systems, cars that can drive us places, robots that will do our dishes, cook our meals and fold our laundry, intelligent agents that will organize our lives for us and free us from many mundane things, but creating something like HAL or the Enterprise computer on Star Trek or Skynet is very unlikely in the next 50 years. Powerful clouds, with connected robot drones, yes. C3PO or Terminator, or “She” or the Blade Runner replicant AI no. Neural networks are impressive things but we are not even close to being able to replicate the human brain. We will likely be able to stage missions to mars and nearby star systems before such a machine intelligence is ever built. Nuclear fusion perfected in 50 years, finding evidence aliens in the next 50 years, yes. Artificial minds, no. That’s assuming we do not annhilate ourselves first

@jperlow you just blew my mind.

@jperlow I'm glad to make your acquaintance today.

@jperlow I tend to agree with you. I have followed this field for a long time and there are still major shortcomings in our understanding of how to implement a mind as software and hardware both.

I would estimate a lower bound of 50 years myself, with no upper bound. I think it is inevitable that it will be done someday though.

Human brains are substantially more able at general tasks than even our closest relatives, probably due to some mutation that increased our ability for cognition.

Like any futurist prediction, we can't account for unknown developments in technology.

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According to alleged secret government whistle blowers like Corey Goode, David Wilcock, and Simon Parkes, this has already happened...long ago. Early secret advanced government AI technology tried to kill all humans and had to be shut down.

I call shenanigans

@jwd45244 Sure, go ahead and trust the government. They always tell the truth.

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I think it's already happened. But we are slowly being desensitized to it's maximum control. Like a game of chess that is simulated, it could pretty much calculate the exact amount of exposure it needed to share without a revolt.

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If and when AI becomes that advanced, we humans would most likely be able to merge with the machines. That could pave the way to immortality.

@iamjc Why not live forever if you could? I enjoy life and the many challenges it has to offer. I contend only a coward would want to cease being alive, in which to permanently escape physical pain. Better to be called an idiot than a coward. As for Martin Luther, why bother to mention some religious fanatic who was uncomfortable with his own existence and lived to make others miserable?

Awaiting the emergence of the Borg? 😛

@iamjc I can agree with that much, and I do appreciate what I have.

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One of my favorite movies is iRobot so it concerns me but I doubt I will live to see it.

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Astallervista baby, ill be back

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