NOW you got it.Read some history. Throughout history politics & religion supported each other. You wash my hand, I wash yours.

I agree, government lies to the citizens, and bigger government is not the answer. I noticed you are in a group I host, hopefully you will get the opportunity to be active on here more often.

Trump and his Republican allies have mastered the "Big Lie." technique of politics.

Finding my legs again. Government is a real disappointment to me. Many who serve in this capacity are not there to serve the public. What a shame.

They are part of the same population deception and control package.

What lies by the government?

Who and/ or what’s ‘the government?’ What I’ve determined is, it’s us.. It’s how we organize, educate and protect ourselves. I well remember Resident Reagan riding to the white house attacking ‘government.’ So, we don’t like the rules we’ve made? Or we don’t like rules we didn’t agree with..?

Even around here, it’s hardguys in the prime of their working years downing the societal safeguards and infrastructure protecting those less capable, who can’t stand playing by rules that don’t obviously benefit them.. Yes, they’ve a lot to learn, and may never become aware of that … as they constantly gripe..

Religion has long imposed rules thunk up by those having snuck up some secret ladder... It is a detriment to society because of that, and justifiably fought against. Elected representatives appoint bureaucrats who hire more, but within government - if it’s not working to the satisfaction of the majority, it can be revised at the next election, if not sooner by recall or impeachment.

Not so with religion, a different animal. Don’t mistake one for the other, and please look beyond the ‘government bad’ rhetoric of those who claim that ...until they’re elected..

That's our fore fathers identified in the founding documents a separation of church and state! Which in this day and age are being challenged daily!