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Are Twitter and Facebook's new "Hate Speech" rules fair?

In a timing coincidence, both Twitter [blog.twitter.com] and Facebook [washingtonpost.com] announced new censorship rules on what they define as "hate speech". Twitter says they are simply expanding their definition to include race and give examples such as "All [national origin] are cockroaches who live off welfare..." and "People who are [race] are leeches...". In a similar move, Facebook is changing their "hate speech" algorithms to depriortize hateful comments against Whites, men, and Americans. Does this perhaps signal that these groups are fair game for "hate"?

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Meh, I don't pay much regards to the likes of Farcebook and Twitter, not worth the time dwelling on. They can run their companies as they see fit, and I reserve the right to ignore them.

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Facebook has been pro trumper this entire election cycle. I take anything fuckerberg says with a grain of salt.

redhog Level 7 Dec 3, 2020
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Removing rules about vilification of ANYONE, ANY GENDER, ANY NATIONALITY and ANY RELIGION should be the rule, if they're looking to create civil discourse. I'm assuming these content rules will apply to ''open'' groups and that ''private'' groups will continue as they are today?

Hitler was disgusting. Christadolfians are disgusting too, turning Hitler into the God of a new religion and denying the Holocaust - they make out that they're all about peace, but we know from the hate they fail to condemn that this is not the case.

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I got thrown in Facebook jail by using the term stupid americans. Facebook is only safe to share pics. Of your cats, puppies and food. Any kind of serious discussion is fair game for someone to take offense to and report you

Kojaksmom Level 8 Apr 9, 2021

In future reference stupid to Professor Cipolla's definition of stupid:

These are Cipolla's five fundamental laws of stupidity:

  1. Always and inevitably everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
  2. The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
  3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
  4. Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places and under any circumstances to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
  5. A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.

Corollary: a stupid person is more dangerous than a pillager.

Good to read that you are still around after the last two years of C19 mayhem.

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Information has always been controlled by the rich and the powerful.

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As if Conservatives didn't start all this shit in the first place.
They cry for censorship more than any other group.
They cry when censored more than any other group.
When the world is silent and about as content as it's possible to be given human nature that silence will be broken by an authoritarian demanding more strife because people can't be good without being harassed by "authority."
But who was beating cops to death?
We've let them spew hate for 50 god damned years.
It's time someone shut them up when they're visiting web sites.
They can say anything they want, but not as if their concerns are actually as valid as they pretend they are. It's like being at work, you can believe anything you want, but if you insist on lying about your politics and accusing people you know nothing about of pedophilia and voter fraud without proof it become a put up or shut up situation.
If you have something then show it, otherwise shut up or we will shut you up.
Aggressive grievance against such a policy just makes Conservatives look even more cult like, if that's even possible.

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It is risible and really hypocritical to ask questions on free speech or censorship in this site, which is more censored and puritan than the religious puritans we eschew. Here, a post with some expletives or artful nudity that is not pornographic and only posted in private groups, ergo not exposed to those who do not want to see them, are always erased or censored, and we worry about other sites who don't do this??? Please.

Mofo1953 Level 9 Dec 4, 2020
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It is their ball park, they make the rules and hire the umpires. While I might disagree with how they enforce their rules (there is no consistency) I have to agree that it is their rule, their site and their idiots. This is perhaps the best example of a libertarian organization as you can finds. Next to no government oversight and the marketplace deciding rules and changes.

glennlab Level 10 Dec 3, 2020
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just furthers the bullshit, hopefully in a more happy way.

hankster Level 9 Dec 3, 2020
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The Facebook AI got on to me once and said I could not post the same things repeatedly the way I was doing. It was not allowed I was told. My protest response was that I am doing no more than they do daily and they left me alone after that. My activist posts and replies are probably generating them money.

DenoPenno Level 9 Dec 3, 2020
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The AI system that flags comments is flawed because it can not decern humor, context, or alternatemeanings & uses of words. Then the human reviewers a biased, hypersensitive and/or "woke" pansies who want to be victims. These flaws shut down conversations without cause.

Reignmond Level 7 Mar 20, 2022

Strangely, a few days ago I had an anti Russian troll accuse me on fbuk of being a Russian troll. I challenged the accusation eventually having it referred to the human admin of the group where my response had been made.
I was somewhat amazed that within about an hour my appeal was upheld & the comments reinstated.

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The latest out of Australia:
Below " should be an eye-opener for people who think we live in a country with a free media. Above are just some of the battles that I have had on a regular basis since I set up my website in 2011. Other battles have included Kerry Stokes running off to court many times to get suppression orders against my articles and articles that are still blocked today about Capilano Honey even though there is no legal basis for it because I had the suppression orders lifted. I have written to Google numerous times to let them know the suppression orders have been lifted but they ignore me.

You don’t have to live in China or Russia to be on the end of government censorship as the likes of Google, Facebook and Twitter will censor for government around the world including Australia’s federal government led by Prime Minister Scott Morrison."

[kangaroocourtofaustralia.com]

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I use neither.

oldFloyd Level 8 Dec 4, 2020
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In USA doesn't the R.I.C.O. law cover what fbuk is proposing?

"While RICO was originally aimed at the Mafia, over the past 37 years, prosecutors have used it to attack many forms of organized crime: street gangs, gang cartels, corrupt police departments and even politicians."

[justia.com]

it covers group crimes i believe like the trump org and i prey they get convicted because it seizes all assets as il gotten gains and leaves the group broke and alone in prison

love your link ty

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[reclaimthenet.org]
"According to the new proposals, it is not as wrong to spew “hatred” directed towards men, whites, Americans, and Christians than it is to do the same against US-minority groups."

International law does not, as far as I'm aware, discriminate by making levels of human rights violations less serious. In other words incarceration in a five star hotel because you are Chinese is treated as the same violation as beheading for not bowing to Allah.

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And, No, imo, they are simply 'bending the knee' to the whims, wills and whines of the Politicians, etc, and the like rather than standing up and being counted.

Triphid Level 9 Dec 3, 2020
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I was recently admonished by a woman for having used the definite article before someone's self described disability to distinguish them from other participants in an event. As I said if there is only one agnostic T shirt in a crowd of xtian message T shirts what is discriminatory in calling the wearer "the agnostic"?

The world's inhabitants are becoming more and more stupid as well as beige in their desire for anonymity. I only have to look at this or any post on this site to see that there are usually ten times the number of visitors to the number expressing their opinions on the subject matter. As Billy Connolly said "beige people".

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