In this video, the comedian joked that conservatives believe that:
While this is, of course, tongue and cheek, what dangerous, wrong or false beliefs do many Conservatives (yes, including "alt-right" types) have that you oppose?
I disagree with the premise of the post. The people you are referring to are not conservatives. Nothing they believe in equates to either classical or philosophical conservatism. I'm very progressive. I've never been a conservative. But even I recognise that such a political philosophy exists. Indeed I studied it at university. These people, like the Trump people, and the Republicans with him, are reactionaries -- radical fascist and oligarchy inclined radical anti- democratic groups, who share nothing with conservatism.
This really misses the point that there are two kinds of conservative, one can almost think of them as Sharks and pilot fish.
The rich c's find the poor c's invaluable because they are stupid and will believe anything they are told by the Rich c, because the poor C invariably believes having money makes you, better wiser, and chosen by god to rule over them.
Poor Cs are necessarily self deluded and stupid, to the point that they will actually vote against their own best interests.
Rich Cs are morally bankrupt and place a monetary value on everything including each other and human life and live accordingly. To them their existence is a balance sheet, and net worth judged only on personal profit and loss, regardless of the consequence.
For example where as a non conservative person, rich or poor would take the trolley thought experiment and find it hard to judge the worth of one life against four, the Rich conservative would ignore both sets of potential victims and instead want to know if everyone ON the tram had paid their fare.
In the same experiment the poor conservative would only consider if the net worth of people on the track (probably decided by how neatly they were dressed) before deciding who lives and who dies.
Conservatives, just like liberals and everyone else, come in a wide range of views. I have friends and family that are conservative. I don't hate them nor do I believe they think this way. This video is rather moronic even if it's meant to be funny.
The poll question really doesn't make sense to me. I'm not confident about how anyone thinks. I can only make a determination based on a person's words and actions.
One could easily flip this and say that conservatives think that all liberals want healthcare that is magically zero cost to anyone and that liberals want to ban cars and eliminate all the police and take away everyones guns and make every drug legal and other equally ridiculous things. It's easy to grossly exaggerate the views of people and lump everyone into one group.
I think liberals understand perfectly well how conservatives that label them "communists" or "libtards" think.
I think conservatives understand perfectly well how liberals that label them "trumptards" or " fascists" think.
That's because when you view the other side as a stereotype, as a cartoon, then it very easy to understand that a mentality that goes no further than stereotypes and caricatures.
That to me is the #1 problem in America right now: we view the majority of people based on the minority of extremists and pretend we then understand the majority.
The minority of protesters riot and loot during peaceful protests over what they consider the unfair treatment of their community and suddenly all of BLM and the LEFT are stereotyped that way.
The minority of protesters riot and loot during peaceful protests over what they consider to be an unfair election and suddenly all of MAGA and the RIGHT are stereotyped that way.
And this leads to the #2 problem in America right now: we object to the stereotypes being used against those communities we support while hypocritically supporting the use of stereotypes against those communities we object.
There is a lack of introspection and honesty within our communities. We feel that if our supporters do wrong, and we call them out on it, then that gives our detractors ammunition and we can't have that, so we don't say they are wrong. Instead we dig in and spin, spin, spin such that our side's actions are justifiable while those same actions on the other side are deplorable.
So yes, I think we do understand each other but it is such a base, childish, trivial understanding of the other side that we never get out of the playground taunts and justifications we were supposed to leave behind in kindergarten. Real understanding, the kind that can get our country back together, requires work. Work to get to know the other side. Work to swallow your pride and admit you and yours are wrong. Work to look beyond our echo chambers, our bubbles, our singular sources of confirmation biased information. But very very very few people in America today are willing to do the HARD WORK of seeing other Americans as three dimensional humans instead of two dimensional cartoons. And if my experience on both left and right leaning social media sites is any indication, this is not going to change any time soon... at least not as long as the current social media paradigm stands and we rely on a two dimensional medium to try and understand three dimensional humans.
As I mentioned, I’m not at all confident I understand how conservatives think, but I do detect some patterns in what they think. And I can’t say it’s “wrong” because I tend to see conservative mentality and liberal mentality as some kind of naturally equilibrated pair, in that they are found in all cultures and places. So, “wrong”?, maybe not. But deserving of my balancing opposition?, richly!
They are the component that overly? mistrusts democratic ( small “d” ) governance, and overly? trusts the unrestricted right of individuals to accumulate power.
Is that dangerous? Maybe not as long as the balancing constraints are equally strong. But either side has the capacity for extremism if left unchecked.
A sailing vessel moves forward only by virtue of the opposition between the keel and the sail. Without the ballast keel the sail would turn the boat over. Without the sail, the boat would make no progress.
"Everything is a conspiracy." Based off their FB posts, that seems to unite my conservative friends.
My new favorite is that there's 2 Presidents right now and Joe Biden is on a movie set having all his photos and press appearances staged
I'm just glad none of them believe in QAnon
To balance that, some of my liberal friends think my lawn is racist
As I was reminded today, it takes all types to make a world.
Not so fast. The comedian is just non sense. They never said anything remotely like that.
We are are putting words in their mouths. That is not fair. I believe this is what they think:
They truly believe in all the things they believe in. We call them stupid and they call us stupid.
Given that I am not a mind reader, it's generally impossible to say for certain how anyone thinks.
However, with folks I personally know who self-identify as conservatives, in many cases I can guess the positions they will take on some issues. We often end up opposed on said issues.
It's unfortunate that many who are conservatives automatically assume that anyone who doesn't agree with them simply MUST be a liberal democrat.
I'm neither, yet I am constantly labeled as such.
Personally, I have found that conservatism is generally pretty regressive. That opinion is based on many decades of observation.
All of the bulleted items above are correct, but there is one belief that ties them together: LIBERAL IS BAD.
When you read or overhear the discourse among conservatives you learn that Liberals, Democrats, peacenicks are all stupid and want to destroy America. Conservatives hate anything that is associated with Liberals or Democrats, but mostly they hate the individuals.
My opinion, for what it is worth, is that conservatives are motivated by greed and anxiety. They are anxious about anything that may change the status quo, in which they are the top dogs. Change of any sort, itself, is frightening to them. A spin-off of this is their greed, as the see having money as the bulwark against which change will beat itself to death. And, they can't have enough, they are like Rocko, the Edward G. Robinson character, who simply wanted "More!"