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All About a Ring
Barnie2years comments on Jul 23, 2018:
Run!
Biggest disappointment about this site.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 22, 2018:
Stop going for the cuties! ? Probably old pictures or photoshopped anyway if they think Trump is a legitimate person. ?
How I've been feeling lately
Barnie2years comments on Jul 22, 2018:
Stop by! ?
Finding a relationship when you're a hopeless romantic stuck in hookup culture is more difficult ...
Barnie2years comments on Jul 22, 2018:
Maybe it’s your age group? I was never interested in one night stands, even less so now.
I find it so peaceful ☔
Barnie2years comments on Jul 21, 2018:
Depends how close that lightening is and how quickly the thunder follows. Having had a near miss on a day when it was hardly even raining, I tend to be a bit cautious. We were sitting on the front porch watching what we thought was a distant storm when lightening struck a telephone pole in the yard and sent a spark that blew my brother in law standing in the doorway back in the house. So these days I only go out when I know it is pretty far away.
Who thinks this quote has true meaning in reality?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 21, 2018:
I actually have found that to be somewhat true. If I am alone, I get little attention from women. When I was married or even actually dating, suddenly it seems like I get flirted with or at least some attention that I never got when I could have used it!
What do you do when you're unattractive to the opposite sex?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 21, 2018:
I feel your pain partner. My experience with online dating sites is pretty much the same!
Every time I think I'm ready to start dating.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 21, 2018:
Since I so rarely even get a response, let alone a date, it hasn’t been an issue.
Well, that’s one option.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 21, 2018:
Let me know how that works out for you, though it sounds a lot like ghosting to me.
Urgh.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 21, 2018:
We need a creep police, but it is not limited to one gender I’m afraid.
Been a rough day. My mom passed away this morning after battling health issues for many years.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 21, 2018:
Losing parents is never easy. When they suffered much before their time, maybe a little consolation that the suffering ended. Sorry for your loss.
Yesterday sadly I had to go home after spending a week with Dan at his home in Albany, NY.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 20, 2018:
After a five year or so healing period where we only communicated when absolutely necessary I renewed totally non sexual relationships with two ex-wives. The first was when our first grandchild was on the way, we made peace for our son’s sake. I had no one else in my life, so it didn’t cause any problem. Later on she got metastatic breast cancer. Thankfully I had talked her into going to the hospital where it was diagnosed. She made it through eight years before passing away over a year ago. The last wife left me to move in with her boyfriend. After another five years of little communication, in a tirade she informed me that her boyfriend (the relationship was already on the skids) was ignoring her son. He was a great kid, I loved him as much as I did her, but had stayed away because I didn’t want him to deal with multiple fathers (his birth father never bothered to stay in touch). So when I found out the new guy was not actively spending time with him, I said I would like to spend time with him. It went from that to being the best friend after she finally threw him out. But still no physical relationship, and I still have no other relationship, so at least she is someone to talk to beside the dog. Not ideal, I would love to have more, but since I can’t even get a date for coffee at this point, at least I have someone to drive me to the hospital if I need a ride! ?
A DEMOCRATIC BLUE WAVE..........? NY Times [nyti.ms]
Barnie2years comments on Jul 19, 2018:
I have never hoped for something so much in my life! This circus needs to end, but it won't until Cheeto is out of office. But a congressional flip would slow the giant fool down a little and maybe keep him from throwing the entire Supreme Court out of wack for the next 50 years.
How many holocausts, and how many genocides have there been since records began
Barnie2years comments on Jul 19, 2018:
Sadly they are still happening in many parts of the world. And very close to happening in many others, including ours. When you have a leader who can obliterate people’s sense of reality like Trump does to his devoted followers, the path to violence and genocide is short. I thankfully feel that our country has the moral strength to overcome the ignorance, but it may come at a cost.
Okay, this is a FIRST in a long time! Just this moment (7/19/18 @ 10:54am) two women knocked on my ...
Barnie2years comments on Jul 19, 2018:
“Have you found Jesus?” Me: “No, have you lost him? Did he get away?” ???
Someone Wanting You in Their Life
Barnie2years comments on Jul 18, 2018:
Tried that. Didn’t work at all! ?
On Wednesday we laugh! Good morning and have a whacky, wonderful Wednesday!
Barnie2years comments on Jul 18, 2018:
Just the smell of it brewing can get the day off with a little boost!
Many of you may not know of the Teletubbies, a kids program that was one of the highest rated shows ...
Barnie2years comments on Jul 18, 2018:
My stepson LOVED the Teletubbies!! He had a stuffed Lala that was bigger than he was! His mom found it at a yard sale. The thing travelled to Slovakia and back and was on his bed until he was 11 or 12 and was getting laughed at when he had a friends for sleepovers. I know his mom still has it stashed somewhere.
Some helpful advice.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 18, 2018:
My feeling is in my life that many people need me, no one actually wants me. In other words, they don’t give a shit what I need. As long as I show up every time they have a problem to be solved, I’m gold. Since I have nothing else in my life, I take this as the closest thing to a sign of affection. For any real love, I depend on my puppy ? and my hand.
How many places have you lived in your lifetime?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 17, 2018:
Six areas, 11 homes, in four countries. Stopped in 1992, threw out the anchor and have no real interest in another move. I am not even crazy about traveling at this point, thought with the right person I could be talked into a few more trips. ?
How big a factor?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 17, 2018:
The vast majority of humans cannot accept finality of life. It is one of the primary drivers of religion, I believe. They find it hard to accept that they are insignificant and only have a limited time to exist. Even my father, who never stated it was I believe an agnostic, was hedging his bets near the end of his life, and trying to believe in god. As my religious friends like to say, if my non belief is wrong it will be too late when I’m dead to change. If they are wrong in believing, when they die, they won’t know the difference. Doesn’t change my outlook, still don’t believe.
It would be nice once in a while LOL
Barnie2years comments on Jul 17, 2018:
I would rather use my my lips! Teeth can leave marks! ?
Do you have a preference as to which side of the bed you sleep on?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 17, 2018:
I extend the life of my sheets. Since I am alone in a queen size bed, I sleep on one side for a period of time. Then I switch to the other side, clean sheets without all the work! ?
A few years ago, we girls were talking about how much work and pain we went through to keep our ...
Barnie2years comments on Jul 17, 2018:
I have no problem with natural, trimmed, or landing strip! ? I find the bald look kind of makes them look like the old airbrushed Playboy pictures before Penthouse came along and showed everything. Playboy has returned to the crotchless women. Like any other hairstyle or men’s beards, women should never be shamed into depilatating! ?
Judge rules for Trump administration in suit over family-planning program shift
Barnie2years comments on Jul 17, 2018:
Welcome to Trumperica! ?
Prayer at extended family meals
Barnie2years comments on Jul 17, 2018:
For family I will go so far as holding hands, but don’t bow head or say amen at the end. Holding hands with a family member is not traumatic, and the moment (hopefully, some do go on) spent while they mumble some innate nonsense is little price to pay for family harmony. And if someone wants to call me out for not bowing my head, ask them what they were doing looking around! ?
How do you respond when people say they will pray for you?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 17, 2018:
If it makes them feel better, have at it! As long as they are not requesting I chant along.
Who or what do you sleep with at night?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 17, 2018:
Absolutely nobody! A pillow under my head and at least a sheet over my body. That’s it, but not by choice.
Does anybody else hate automatic flushing toilets?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 17, 2018:
If the are working right they are fine. I’ve been on some, every time you took a breath the damn thing flushed! Like ten times while you’re sitting there getting your butt sprayed! ? Also, you have to be very careful not to drop anything into the bowl. If you do, It’s gone!
What's something that is popular right now that annoys you?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 16, 2018:
Donald Trump and family! ?
Given that Trump really is so awful why are people complaining about Obama?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 15, 2018:
Mostly people on the Right trying to deflect attention from their Dear Leader. The eight years Obama was in office the Right Racist jackals were doing everything in their power to spread lies and disinformation on the first non white president. Add to that a majority Republican congress sworn to do nothing that would benefit the middle or lower class, it kind of makes for a lame duck president. With any luck we can do the same to Trump this November if the Russian don't come up with a means of totally sabotaging the elections.
Patriotism. Is it worth it?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 14, 2018:
What I find funny is that those most vocal about flag worshipping are also most likely to be Ten Commandment worshipers. One of those commandments is not worshiping false idles, which in my mind would include a flag. You will never see an American flag on an Amish farm for just that reason. But the religion is overflowing with hypocrisy.
What do you think about cults vs. sects?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 13, 2018:
I drove route buses in the Amish country for years. I will never forget during the Branch Davidian stand off and tragedy I was working one of our routes that transports many Amish people (they are not allowed to drive cars or even have a license, but they can use public and for hire transportation). Normally the Amish are not overly talkative, though some more than others, especially if there are other Amish onboard. But when the bus was empty or only had English (non Amish) on board they would strike up a conversation. This particular guy had a newspaper with him, coming back from the city and was sitting up near me. After some pleasantries he asks "What do you think of these cults?" I almost swallowed my tongue! LOL Here sits a man with a long beard, no mustache, black clothing and a broad brimmed hat, who is not allowed to drive a car, has to farm using horses to pull the equipment, not allowed to have a phone in his house, or transact business on a Sunday, asking what makes people join cults! I acutally said "some people would consider your beliefs to be a cult." He just kind of chuckled it off and got off at his stop a few minutes later. So I guess the answer to the above would be if you believe in it, it is not a cult but rather a sign of your faith in ??? Something, someone, to whom you have ceded control of your life out of fear of missing out on something? I don't know, I have never felt the need to do that.
Why do people think bad things that happen to people are part of god’s plan?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 13, 2018:
For the same reason that, had she survived after extended medical treatment, new developments in cancer treatment brought about by decades of human research, they would have called it a miracle from God. Forget about the science, the dedicated scientists and the willpower of the ill person to persevere and their personal strength. Religious people kind of make me sick!
A friend posted this on FB and I couldn't resist commenting on it.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 13, 2018:
No sense of humor these faithful! And they accuse us of being humorless. They just haven't met enough Atheist! ?
Chicago man charged with hate crime for berating woman over Puerto Rico shirt
Barnie2years comments on Jul 13, 2018:
He was essentially threatening her and her family. Had the do nothing cop not been there, it might have escalated pretty quickly. I hope they keep him in the cooler long enough to give him some geography lesson.
Trump Calls His Theresa May Brexit Criticism 'Fake News' | HuffPost
Barnie2years comments on Jul 13, 2018:
The amazing thing is, the Trumpettes will believe him! He sends Tweets, does interviews on various recorded forums, then says he didn't say it the next day when it gets blasted. And his followers just don't care!! ?
Spice Rack
Barnie2years comments on Jul 12, 2018:
Italian seasoning.
Are we recycling disaster movies from the 70's?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 12, 2018:
It's the conservative movement. Making everything old new again. Not better, just new!
Sometimes I think we atheists/agnostics put just a bit too much importance on some "religious" ...
Barnie2years comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Half of those words, except for bless you and amen, are words that have meaning outside of religion. Luck is not mystical, in fact most religious people don't like the word since it implies that God was not involved. As for thankful, you can be thankful without a deity. I am thankful for the life I have had, for my family being healthy and happy, for the love I have shared, even the though they didn't work out long term. I am thankful for the experience.
Those of you previously married. How likely are you to marry again or are you put off completely?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 11, 2018:
I would never rule it out, especially if I found the right person. By the same token, it is not a requirement for a relationship. I have never cohabitated for very long, always made it legal.
There's a man in our community known as "monkey man" (he always has several stuffed monkeys ...
Barnie2years comments on Jul 11, 2018:
Not sure why anyone would not tell you that you are pretty. You must giggle a lot! ?
Things I love: my cats, hiking, the sun, thrift store shopping, growing edible plants and perennial ...
Barnie2years comments on Jul 10, 2018:
Sounds reasonable to me!
Do sacred sites move you?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 10, 2018:
Living in Europe for ten years growing up, I was in more impressive cathedrals than I can remember. They were not moving in the sense that I felt a religious epiphany, but I was moved by the architecture and the thought that many generations had a hand in the planning and construction of these buildings. I felt much the same way at Greek and Roman ruins, German castles and pictures of Inca and other South American structures. The craftsmanship of these buildings with, what at the time were rather primitive tools, is amazing.
My current boyfriend was raised by his Grandfather in TX to be a Southern Baptist, I tell him I have...
Barnie2years comments on Jul 10, 2018:
I guess you are in a position to answer the Christian/Atheist couple question. It makes what is complicated (relationships) even more complicated.
What happened to the emoji options in the ABOUT section?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 10, 2018:
The ones on the “Like” button? Mine work.
Seriously...are there many rabbit owners here?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 10, 2018:
The only bunnies I spend time with are in a magazine! ?
We need silliness this morning so here is an archaic word and some background about it: ...
Barnie2years comments on Jul 10, 2018:
These are the good old days the Republicans are always talking about! Why a black ram? A racial thing or religious thing?
There's So Much You Don't Know about Brett Kavanagh NYTimes [nyti.ms]
Barnie2years comments on Jul 9, 2018:
We are in a world of shit, no doubt about it!
Does anyone else feel this way...?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Ha! God gives them the diseases and science and doctor help them live! Never heard a religious person follow that line of thought! I have also suggested to people who go on about how intensive medical treatment that is successful is a miracle from god; where the hell was their god 20, 30 or 50 years ago when even what is now routine medical care was primitive and usually deadly. Your first take on their god being an abusive lover is right on! Beat you down so you worship him in the hopes the next beating won’t be so bad if it comes despite your best effort. Reminds me of a family member going through a series of issues with her family saying “why me?” I told her why not? Everyone goes through bad times, rough days, times when life just seems to be working against us. We non believers just have to get up in the morning a muddle on, knowing that like those who pray to the imaginary friend, life will have ups to go with the downs if we seek them out!
This question is going to be controversial, but with the subject matter it's to be expected.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 9, 2018:
I have seen white women on dating sites say they are only interested in dating black men or only looking to date other women. It’s really no different than wanting to date thin women or full bodied women, short or tall women. Most people have a phisical preference they gravitate to, even if it isn’t put in stone. Go for what makes you feel comfortable and what you want. I did note that you mentioned several times having a mental illness. I hope it is not related to the assaults and regardless of why, that you are getting help with it. There is non religious support groups and therapists out there, seek them out.
As a non believer, do you also reject cultural and social aspects that have religious roots.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Since holidays like Christmas and Easter are based on Pagan festivals anyway, just focus on the giving aspect and the tree and bunny. Though I must say, I hate Christmas, not because it is a religious holiday, but has become a greed and corporate boondoggle rather than a time to be sharing and caring. I like Thanksgiving as a time to spend with family and we can always be thankful for what we have without giving credit to invisible spirits.
Maine Governor Vetoes Gay Conversion Ban Citing Religious Freedom - The Intellectualist
Barnie2years comments on Jul 9, 2018:
This guy helped pave the way for Trump. The fact that he got elected gave hope to the Troglodytes that it could be done and they were electable.
Apple Pie Wouldn’t Be 'American' Without The Immigrants Who Brought It Here
Barnie2years comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Apple is the only fruit pie I eat. I can enjoy a piece of Pumpkin pie once or twice a year. Lemon meringue is a favorite. Luckily for my waistline, I am not much of a desert eater! LOL
Men/Women, Is sex a requirement for an enjoyable romantic relationship?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 9, 2018:
I love your description of the husband in the photo!! ? But in answer to your question: a sexless marriage, or even relationship, would not work for me. The intimacy and bonding of sex is in my book as close as two people can get. I can like you from a distance, but when I love you, I want to be part of you. When I say sex, I am not talking about the act of physical intercourse alone, but the sensuality of bodily contact, skin against skin, extended foreplay, tasting, kissing.... OK, gotta stop now, these are all things I have not had in my life for way too long! ?
Relationship
Barnie2years comments on Jul 9, 2018:
I think what would cause major issues in this type of relationship is outside forces. Assuming that the couple could be so in love as to be able to respect their opposing views on a fundamental, life defining belief, in most cases there would be family to deal with. II, as an Atheist, have developed an understanding with my family, if they are believers, that has allowed them to accept me as I am. Will I be able to convince my partner’s family that I am not “leading their daughter into hell!” If she has a good relashionship with her family, based on their religious beliefs, and I am unwilling to participate in some way in their ceremonies and holidays without feeling like I am going to vomit because of the stupidity of the sermons and activities required, will it not cause her to feel the need to choose sides? Will there not be constant attempts to bring me into the fold by her family members, even if she is able to not do it herself? I have been in relationships with Christians, but they were not devout and loved sleeping in Sunday’s as much as me! ? And at the time I was a little more malleable about going to church for special occasions than I am now. I still show up at those few funerals and weddings I get invited to, but find a need to grit my teeth the whole time I am there. How would that work if my partner was a devout Sunday church attender?
Would you, or would you not?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Actually, on a similar topic, having watched many episodes of Ancient Aliens, I would be far less surprised if a UFO landed in my front yard rather than Jesus! ??
Would you, or would you not?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 9, 2018:
Given my total disbelief, unless they could show me live video of heaven and hell, or get me a handshake with a god like person who could control on a whim everything around them, there is zero chance of this happening. So it is kind of a non issue.
I am beginning to enjoy this app more and more each day.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 9, 2018:
The topics forums on here run the gamut, from sexual and relationships to political and government, to philosophy and mental heath. You can find a discussion on most anything that interests you. I have found an abundance of non-believers seem to be of artistic backgrounds, painters, poets, writers, photographers and other art forms. I find this interesting, given that from historical perspective, many artists seem to have been deeply devout, at least in the subjects of their creations, paintings or music. I am also thrilled to find so many people from other countries have found their way to these forums. Having grown up in Europe, I enjoy hearing the voices of the world expressed, since many of those countries have shed much of their religious cloak, or are making greater strides than we are. (Looking at you Ireland!)
Irresistible
Barnie2years comments on Jul 8, 2018:
I met a woman and after our first date, I felt like I found the best drug in the world! For weeks, I went to work in the morning feeling like I was barely touching the ground! But the timing was wrong (I was separated, not divorced) and she was kind of bipolar. The rollercoaster ride was wild and emotional, but unsustainable. I miss that feeling ?.
The White House is Tearing Down the Wall Between Church and State NY Times [nyti.ms]
Barnie2years comments on Jul 8, 2018:
Trump knows how to keep his Evangelical base happy, while pretty much ignoring every Christian tenant in the Bible. But then most Evangelical practice a bastardized greed centered version of their saviors teachings anyway.
Curious how many of our boomers are retired.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 8, 2018:
I retired at 63 from a job I worked for 42 years. Thanks to a strong Union, we had a good defined benefits retirement program rather than a shitty 401k. I was also able to keep my work health insurance plan at 35% copay until I qualified for Medicare at 65. Too bad so many people don’t see the benefits of Unions, because none of this would have been possible without mine. I will always be a Union supporter! And thanks to that, I have not had to make any major changes to my life; live in the same house, drive a nice car, and have gotten through a few medical issues without going broke. All things the current administration and Congress would love to take away away for anyone not in the top 10% of earners.
There's been some talk about singles being afraid of rejection, so they don't take the chance.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 8, 2018:
When rejection is repeated time after time, after time. When you have tried every approach within your ability, every venue available, and the result is always the same. A hesitation to be disappointed again is kind of a survival method rather than a character flaw.
One of my biggest pet peeves is when religious people say God told them to do something instead of ...
Barnie2years comments on Jul 7, 2018:
I have a friend who is off the charts Christian. Everything she does was God’s doing. She has overcome some hardships, been through some tough emotional upsets and keeps on going. I find it so sad that she can not take credit for her own strength, her own choices, and chooses instead to praise the invisible friend for somehow manipulating everything in her life to help her get through it ?
Inlaws are Trump supporters.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 6, 2018:
Sounds to me like the best solution would be to move before you get outed as an Atheist Liberal and thrown in jail!
When did you last have sex with a partner? (A 50 and over confidential poll)
Barnie2years comments on Jul 5, 2018:
This is not what I consider normal, but due to lack of a partner, it has been a long time. When I was married, I would have had sex 4 days or more a week if my wife had been agreeable. Now, at 66, I would be happy to cuddle, and let sex happen when we were ready. I sure do miss it! ?
I love me some Haka! [youtu.be]
Barnie2years comments on Jul 5, 2018:
https://binged.it/2u2tHpc
I love me some Haka! [youtu.be]
Barnie2years comments on Jul 5, 2018:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Military+haka&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dMilitary%2bhaka%26go%3dSearch%26qs%3dds%26form%3dQBVDMH=detail=F0CB1534449C864CF4DCF0CB1534449C864CF4DC&=vwrc=VDRVRV
More Haka? [youtu.be]
Barnie2years comments on Jul 5, 2018:
As if Rugby isn't intimidating enough as a game! Could be fun if American football players started this instead of half time music shows! LOL
I love me some Haka! [youtu.be]
Barnie2years comments on Jul 5, 2018:
Groom looks like he is about to crap himself at the beginning. Then he gets into the groove at the end! And I thought my weddings were scary! LOL
I'm stuck in this chair.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 5, 2018:
My ex had a cockapoo like that. First bang or rumble of thunder, even if we could barely hear it, she was hiding in the bathtub or someplace dark. Couldn’t hardly get her to go outside the entire week of July 4th or New Years. ? Smoke alarms had the same effect.
Even if you are alone, sparks can fly on the 4th of July .
Barnie2years comments on Jul 4, 2018:
Beautiful!
Dogs just know best. Then there are cats, who bring you food. It's all about love. The Oatmeal
Barnie2years comments on Jul 4, 2018:
My dog doesn’t even flitch when the fireworks are going off. He was barking at some of the louder ones Saturday night! He barks at thunder too ?.
Any of you who would like to see my picture, if you are on Facebook, you can find me there.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 4, 2018:
Under Joantheloon? ?
Religion is a harmful addiction.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 4, 2018:
This is also the reason so many rehab groups an organizations are religiously oriented. Addicts can become the most dedicated believers if they can channel their addiction into a religious belief, and the crazier their faith, the more of those chemicals get released, the more they believe. My guess is, if the Westboro Church members were tested when they are out spewing their hate messages, their dopamine and other euphoric numbers would be off the charts!
Religion is a harmful addiction.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 4, 2018:
I don’t know. For many people, thanks to the group support system of a church, and the ability of the pastors (con men or not), the euphoria of belief can be a lifelong high. I have known many people who go through life with a smile on their face, even in the middle of adversity. I have also known deeply religious people who were the most miserable malcontents you could imagine, but didn’t give up their faith out of belief that their god was just testing them. All they need is one thing to go right every so often to reload their faith.
Is religion a delusion?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 4, 2018:
I have a dear friend who is in a really bad situation relationship wise. She is from China and hooked up with a friend of mine on an internet dating site. She is a really fun, active person. She came over here with her teen daughter and married, and for the first couple of years, they had a great time, even though the daughter had emotional issues. She did great in school (very bright) but was not happy with her new step father and life in general, to the point of needing professional help. Then after a couple of years of happiness, he had a serious stroke on a highway miles from medical care. The result is paralysis on his entire right side, and the general mental capacity of a mean three year old! She could have easily ran, she is quite capable of taking care of herself, but she chose to dedicate herself to taking care of him (I might mention that there is a 20 year age difference between them). Anyway, to relate this to the topic, she found a Chinese church here in Lancaster which she started attending I think just for the social aspect of being with people she could communicate in her own language, but found that the idea of an invisible friend and a better afterlife gave her comfort and helped her cope with the daily grind of dealing with her home situation. We kind of stopped talking for a few years because, obviously I am somewhat irreverent, and topics we used to talk about are now off limits. But she contacted me recently for some help and we are talking again. We started a discussion on spirits, since in February I had a heart failure and was technically dead for ten seconds. She told me that she had become a Christian because at some point in her indoctrination she had seen the “spirit” of Jesus, and she believed that all our spirits survive death. We had a very civil conversation, though I pointed out that people can be made to believe they see all kinds of things and wondered where all these spirits are living? But by the same token, given the way she is living, the delusion of rewards in an afterlife for doing the right thing in this one would certainly make it easier to not go completely out of your mind.
I would enjoy seeing a discussion of the following.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 3, 2018:
I started to watch the movie and had to turn it off. I don’t do that with many movies, but the basis of the movie just seemed too realistic, given today’s political climate. It exemplifies the ease with which organized religion and money are able to overcome any sense of morality to preserve their status quo. Enslaving anyone is evil, enslaving women to use as breeding machines for the upper class is just disturbing.
Fellow agnostics, how do you feel about believers joining?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 3, 2018:
Anyone can get on the site. The point system limits what they can do as newbies. And if the turn into trolls or start evangelizing, they can be ejected. If they simply are questioning why we don’t feel the need for faith to live normal, moral and even fulfilling lives, maybe we can sow a seed of questioning into their minds. And certain Agnostics, because they are simply searching for answers, may tend to push you for explanations of why you don’t feel as they do. It should not be an argument, but rather an open forum to ideaology.
What is the bible to you?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 3, 2018:
A book of short stories combined at some point from verbal legends and earlier tales into a collection that rulers over time found they could use to their advantage to sublimate many natural human tendencies.
How do you refute nature's beauty?
Barnie2years comments on Jul 3, 2018:
Because there are scientific, factual reasons all these things exist. Natural order was here long before mankind and his need for an invisible force ever existed. There were jungles and mountains, sunrises and sunsets, long before there was humankind. Much of our species is just unable to accept the idea that something like us didn’t create the world we live in.
I don't know how to put this.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 3, 2018:
Talking to a brick wall is not going to make the wall move. You go around it and move on. Talking to a Trump supporter is the same as talking to an Evangelical, they don’t want to hear you, they are not debating facts, just feelings, so no matter what you present gets met with retaliatory bull shit that has no meaning, just mantra.
I noticed that the cover on my ironing board is wrinkled. That’s just weird.
Barnie2years comments on Jul 2, 2018:
I think I gave mine away. At least I haven’t seen it in a long time. ?
Would you have a wedding with religious aspects incorporated in it?
Barnie2years comments on Jun 29, 2018:
Been there, done that! I put it under the same category as funerals. Given my track record on marriage, the two are pretty much the same to me at this point ?. The key is, if I am getting married to a believer, and I have any expectation of it working out, not only her needs, but those of her family, need to be respected. That said, I would assume that we had already discussed the fact that I would not be showing up at church on Sundays. She would also know that all the scripture reading would have no real meaning to me. Though it is not an issue at this point (I’m 66), the subject of child baptism would have to be ironed out. Again, I am fine with that, since having water sprinkled on you is not going to matter one way or the other to me if you die. And the religious habits of the kids would be a much bigger issue than where we said our vows. So, given all the obstacles in an Atheist/believer marriage, where the ceremony takes place should be a minor one.
I forgot to put my windshield sun shade in place today.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 28, 2018:
Feel lucky! Did you see the news item last week were the mother went to add water to her baby’s pool with a hose that was laying in the sun for a couple of hours? Baby had second degree burns all over its body. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/baby-burned-by-scalding-water-from-garden-hose-left-in-sun-las-vegas/
No other words needed
Barnie2years comments on Jun 27, 2018:
The same people that thought Trump cares about poor and middle class people.
Do you believe in life after death of any kind?
Barnie2years comments on Jun 27, 2018:
Do you believe in life before life? Just asking, because if we go somewhere, I would think we have to come from someplace too.
Death. Do you fear it?
Barnie2years comments on Jun 27, 2018:
I don’t fear death. I don’t seek it necessarily, but I accept that it could come at anytime. I have had an interesting life, travelled a lot growing up, had love (even if fleeting), have passed on my DNA to a son and grandchildren, my wisdom (for what it is worth) to a stepson. I feel I have helped more people than I have harmed in my life. So, when it’s time for me to exit, I have no regrets, nothing more I expect to accomplish. A recent heart failure only reminded me to enjoy as much as possible whatever positives I have in my life.
[cracked.com] Interesting article. Still processing. I've read it twice. I'm reading it again.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 26, 2018:
Trump can certainly pick his audience.
[cracked.com] Interesting article. Still processing. I've read it twice. I'm reading it again.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 26, 2018:
How in the world can you call millionaire Trump who’s closest association with the country is when he hits his golf ball in the rough a country boy? Because his grasp of English grammar is at a fifth grade level? This is a man that studies weakness then figures out the best con to get what he wants, no better than any TV evangelist, even though they actually are smarter than him because they legally don’t pay taxes on their fortunes. But then those same red areas of the country are the biggest contributors to whacky religions, so it makes perfect sense.
There are so many sexual terms being bantered in society today I cannot keep up! What the hell is ...
Barnie2years comments on Jun 26, 2018:
Metro man usually refers to males who spend large amounts of time and money on grooming and fashion. If you are a man that goes for skin hydration treatment, manny-pedies, don’t leave home without hair gel, lip baum and high priced designer cloths and shoes, chances are you are a metro man, regardless of where you live.
How often, we focus on the negative and keep going over the the would of could of should of'ves.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 25, 2018:
I am a great believer in the chaos theory. I rarely even question why something went wrong, or right for that matter. If it was something definitely my fault, I deal with it best I can going forward. But as I constantly remind my conservative friends, you can never go backwards. In fact, the rest of my sermon goes, “you can never go back to the past, and you can never predict the future. The only thing you have any control over is how you deal with the present.”
I believe there are people that truly need the dogma and comfort of religion.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 23, 2018:
It's like giving up anything else you become dependant on, especially if you have an addiction problem. It is why so many of the drug and alcohol rehabilitation organizations are religiously oriented. They take you off the drugs and get you addicted to the idea of a greater force. Addicts can become the greatest believers, because once they latch on to something, they get obsessed. The religious like to point at porn addiction, computer game addiction, sex addiction, but they would never point out that religious fundamentalists, evangelicals and radical Islamists are nothing more than religious addicts, being often controlled by whatever leaders they have attached themselves to. Which is what in many ways make them dangerous. They lose the ability to think for themselves. The problem is never going to go away and free thinkers and people who can avoid addiction will always be a minority. And we tend to reproduce much slower than the believers!
Why are you athiest?
Barnie2years comments on Jun 23, 2018:
Because there is nothing in religion that makes even a little sense from a logical standpoint. Prayer is nothing more than wishing, miracles are nothing that can not be called an anomaly. If you can explain to me where heaven and hell are in the known universe, show me a soul leaving a body, maybe we could talk. And every religion has been used for nefarious purposes, for wars, to control the poor and for the benefit of the rich. I lived in Europe growing up, where religion doesn't have the stranglehold it does here in the US. I toured cathedrals where the displays of gold and jewels were dazzling, but questioned why this wealth was not used to feed the poor and heal the sick, rather than decor for ornate ceremony that did nothing to actually help anyone, other than give the bishops and pope luxury lifestyles.And those are just some of the reasons I am an Atheist. LOL
Hey there, I have been an atheist since forever, no religion growing up to speak of.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 23, 2018:
If there is one downside to being Atheist or a non-believer, it is the lack of community and networking. For many, the community and social aspect of their church is just as if not important than the actual belief. Atheist have no meeting places, social clubs or organized activities, especially if you are outside a larger metropolitan area. Where you live, you surely feel very alone, especially as a widow, without a support group. I am not too far away, but I know it is difficult to meet new people if you don't hang out at bars or belong to some kind of club. I do belong to a motorcycle club, but even there it is hard to meet anyone who is not religious. My lack of belief has scared a few people away. We are friendly with each other at the breakfasts and get togethers, but we don't have much to talk about outside of that. If you would like to chat, feel free to contact me. I am not much of a camper or outdoorsman, but I am open minded and talk too much, a pretty good listener too. And I have a cute dog! LOL
I think I get torn between wanting to get out and meet people, find a relationship, have sex and be ...
Barnie2years comments on Jun 22, 2018:
Thanks! I was starting to think it was just me.. I have been alone for around ten years, almost dateless for the past two or three. Sex, forget about it! The few dates I've actually been on were one or two and done. I've come to the conclusion that I am going to be alone the rest of my life. I have friends, mostly female, but not dating. They call when they need my help with something, occasionally offer a meal. But either they are not people I would want to have a relationship with, people I had a relationship with that ended, or they have no interest in pursuing a relationship with me. Other than the total lack of a sex life, my puppy I got two years ago seems to fill a lot of the hole in my heart. I have never given up hope of meeting someone, but I sure have tampered my expectations. I don't hang out in bars, join clubs or spend much time in crowds, I think I have a little crowd phobia. Had some hopes when I found this site, but so far that hasn't been successful either.
Well good morning fellow heretics.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 22, 2018:
My seven year old grandson is shark crazy! Anything with sharks, about sharks, or looks like a shark.
So today as we were walking into the Mount Rushmore Monument (Federally owned property), we ...
Barnie2years comments on Jun 22, 2018:
Should have asked for a pack of them, then dumped them in the next trash can you came to. Maybe picked up more on the way out to do it again.
Well good morning fellow heretics.
Barnie2years comments on Jun 22, 2018:
What a splendidly wonderful attitude you have! You must be a morning person! ?
My Father My Dad With the advent of this month thoughts of the man who became my father have ...
Barnie2years comments on Jun 20, 2018:
Wow ?❣ What a wonderful tribute to your father! And in reading it, brought back memories of my own father; executive, self made man, we moved on a regular basis (never lived in one house or country, more than three years growing up). His home office was always present. I never followed in his footsteps, but then he was quite accepting of my sister and my differences from him. Thank you for sharing, it made me laugh and made my eyes dampen as well. It sounds like your Dad was quite a man!

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