@Archeus_lore is apparently too fragile a little bitch to have anyone cite facts he doesn't like in ...

Garban comments on Apr 6, 2022:

He was the 2nd person to block me. Soon he’ll block everyone except the other social justice pretenders that support Putin as a side gig.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

Man I must be slacking being a thorn in the sides of idiots here if a block-happy little bitch as fragile as @Archeus_lore took this long to block me.

I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.

Betty comments on Apr 3, 2022:

Belief is truth as you know it. You believe in the stability of your relationships, family, friends, co-workers, community etc. What does religion, god, or any make believe entity have to do with truth? To believe is to accept that there is evidence of truth. Morals, values, and code of conduct ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

@Betty That's my whole point, belief doesn't *have* to be based on anything that you could even detail. *To be honest, none of the things people believe they actually know why they believe, they can merely make educated guesses as to why they believe those things, but that's a whole other conversation I don't think either of us want to have.*

I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.

Betty comments on Apr 3, 2022:

Belief is truth as you know it. You believe in the stability of your relationships, family, friends, co-workers, community etc. What does religion, god, or any make believe entity have to do with truth? To believe is to accept that there is evidence of truth. Morals, values, and code of conduct ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

@Betty Exactly. Something they believe is true. But no evidence of something being actually true is required for a belief. And no, she didn't mix them up. She hopes they will *and* believes they will accomplish it. Whereas I hope they will but do not believe they will ever accomplish it.

There is no one way to believe in determinism and there is no one way to believe in free will.

ChestRockfield comments on Jan 29, 2022:

Belief does not require choosing. In fact, it completely defies the notion of choice. Could you choose to start believing in God? In Santa Claus? That the sky is pink with orange polka dots? The rest of your post is exactly correct. People cannot choose whether or not to believe any given ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

@Heraclitus It does even if you can't understand why...

I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.

Betty comments on Apr 3, 2022:

Belief is truth as you know it. You believe in the stability of your relationships, family, friends, co-workers, community etc. What does religion, god, or any make believe entity have to do with truth? To believe is to accept that there is evidence of truth. Morals, values, and code of conduct ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

@Betty Not so. My mom believes that the Cleveland Browns will win the Super Bowl and there's NO reason ANYONE should EVER think that based on prior evidence. I agree belief is not an absolute, but it also does not require "evidence of truth" as you suggested. For a simpler example, what "evidence of truth" is there that the Earth is flat? Yet there are quite a number of people who believe that.

I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.

Word comments on Apr 3, 2022:

Belief simply means hold information as true. Information can be held true with out good reason, this is typically called assumption. Holding information as true does not make it true. Information could appear to be 100% true but it could be some small portion, o .oooooo1% that makes ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

@Word Been there my man. Happens to all of us.

I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.

Betty comments on Apr 3, 2022:

Belief is truth as you know it. You believe in the stability of your relationships, family, friends, co-workers, community etc. What does religion, god, or any make believe entity have to do with truth? To believe is to accept that there is evidence of truth. Morals, values, and code of conduct ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

@Betty I can believe that the Cavs will win their next game. I can cite reasons for why I believe that. There's no way to know it and there's no evidence that that believe is of something true as it hasn't happened yet.

All of these children were killed in Gaza last May, but not one peep from the American, CIA ...

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 6, 2022:

More fuckin' whataboutism. That's all you have to offer. There is always another atrocity to mention, so if you say you can't mention one without taking about them all, you'd never be able to talk about any.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

@Archeus_Lore I guess you are just a useless fuckin' idiot...

I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.

Betty comments on Apr 3, 2022:

Belief is truth as you know it. You believe in the stability of your relationships, family, friends, co-workers, community etc. What does religion, god, or any make believe entity have to do with truth? To believe is to accept that there is evidence of truth. Morals, values, and code of conduct ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

I'm not on board with the "evidence of truth" part of your definition, especially considering you can have beliefs about things that may happen in the future.

I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.

Word comments on Apr 3, 2022:

Belief simply means hold information as true. Information can be held true with out good reason, this is typically called assumption. Holding information as true does not make it true. Information could appear to be 100% true but it could be some small portion, o .oooooo1% that makes ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

@Word You're not saying anything I disagree with or anything that challenges my comment. Basically, I'm confused as to the intent of this reply.

All of these children were killed in Gaza last May, but not one peep from the American, CIA ...

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 6, 2022:

More fuckin' whataboutism. That's all you have to offer. There is always another atrocity to mention, so if you say you can't mention one without taking about them all, you'd never be able to talk about any.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

@Archeus_Lore That is fallacious reasoning that assumes there's only one reason one would not like it, and that it would be solved by not reading it. I would hope you were smart enough to understand that, but maybe you're not.

All of these children were killed in Gaza last May, but not one peep from the American, CIA ...

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 6, 2022:

More fuckin' whataboutism. That's all you have to offer. There is always another atrocity to mention, so if you say you can't mention one without taking about them all, you'd never be able to talk about any.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

@Wangobango3 Facts can be whataboutism... Actually, whataboutism is *usually* facts.

I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.

Word comments on Apr 3, 2022:

Belief simply means hold information as true. Information can be held true with out good reason, this is typically called assumption. Holding information as true does not make it true. Information could appear to be 100% true but it could be some small portion, o .oooooo1% that makes ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

The question is "known to be false" *by whom*? If I honestly do not know or remember who won the Super Bowl 14 months ago (which I honestly do not remember), but believe it was, say, the Colts, you may know that to be false, but it would still be a belief I hold. If, however, I looked it up (which I haven't) and found it was actually the Bills, but continued to *state* I believed it was the Colts, that wouldn't be a belief I actually held. That would be a false statement of belief, which is not at all the same thing. I can make the claim right now that I believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ, but that doesn't mean I *actually* hold the belief that Jesus Christ was divine, because that is not something I can choose [no belief is]. So in actuality, no one can continue to hold a belief that they know no longer holds true, but you will have people claiming they do all the time. So to answer your final question, if it is known to be false by the person making the statement, no, it is not a belief, it is a lie.

I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.

Julie808 comments on Apr 4, 2022:

I believe in things that matter. It does not matter to me whether there is or isn't a god. Nothing to prove either way for my purposes in living a good life. I do believe in goodness, kindness, fairness, natural consequences, courtesy, respect, compassion, empathy and a whole lot of things ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 6, 2022:

@PapPap You got a couple things wrong in your analysis. 1. While you are correct that there is something "deeper" than culturally learned morals, it is not uniquely human as your statement seems to suggest. It has been bred into us and our ancestors for, at minimum, tens of millions of years. There was a study done with capuchin monkeys that showed even they had incredibly strong senses of equity and displayed jealously, anger, and aggression when that sense of equity was violated. And, given it is quite early in the morning for me, forgive me if there's an easy answer, but what, from a list of moral principles, can't be boiled down to or summed up as an offense to equity? 2. We agree that morality most assuredly does not reside in the conscious mind, but that's the extent of the agreement. You have claimed that one can consciously defy this instinct. Even if you disagree with the fact that humans lack agency, you have contradicted yourself. If you can consciously defy your moralistic *instincts* through conscious thought and choice, than your actual moralistic beliefs, principles, and actions *do* reside in the conscious mind. You can't have it both ways.

It sure seems that way.

Cyklone comments on Apr 4, 2022:

There is only one way you'll find unconditional love in this world, regardless of your conditions. Buy a dog.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 5, 2022:

@Cyklone I haven't. I personally find the concept of dog ownership ridiculous. Rarely isn't never.

There is no one way to believe in determinism and there is no one way to believe in free will.

ChestRockfield comments on Jan 29, 2022:

Belief does not require choosing. In fact, it completely defies the notion of choice. Could you choose to start believing in God? In Santa Claus? That the sky is pink with orange polka dots? The rest of your post is exactly correct. People cannot choose whether or not to believe any given ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 5, 2022:

@Heraclitus "You don't seem to comprehend that there is more to life and belief than simply that which one considers silly and that which one does not consider silly." And you can't comprehend that this literally encompasses every single possible proposition. So I don't think I can help you. And yes, if you are able to force yourself to believe *something* of one or both of those categories (a designation you made, not me, I argued from the beginning that the silliness is irrelevant) then you should be able to force yourself to believe *anything* in that category. The fact that you admit you can't means that it is not under your control, and anything you think you're choosing is a delusion. *A puppet is free as long as it loves its strings*. That's you. You think you want to do something that your unconscious has determined you will do, so you incorrectly think you've freely chosen to do it.

It sure seems that way.

Cyklone comments on Apr 4, 2022:

There is only one way you'll find unconditional love in this world, regardless of your conditions. Buy a dog.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 5, 2022:

@Cyklone The men and women thing is irrelevant because I'm not saying they can provide unconditional love. Your statement, "Buy a dog" seems to suggest that you *can* get unconditional love from them. But given that dogs can turn on their owners, especially when mistreated, it means that, too, isn't unconditional.

There is no one way to believe in determinism and there is no one way to believe in free will.

ChestRockfield comments on Jan 29, 2022:

Belief does not require choosing. In fact, it completely defies the notion of choice. Could you choose to start believing in God? In Santa Claus? That the sky is pink with orange polka dots? The rest of your post is exactly correct. People cannot choose whether or not to believe any given ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 5, 2022:

@Heraclitus And *this* is why I told myself I wouldn't do this anymore. You don't even have the capacity to understand the implications of your own statements let alone mine. "I do not find the Buddha silly. But, I still don't see how I could force myself to believe in the Buddha." You already admitted you can't choose to believe things that are silly to you. The above statement claims you can't even choose to believe things that *aren't* silly to you. The crux of your whole counterargument was about not being able to choose to believe something silly, but now you've admitted that's not the extent of what you can't choose to believe. I agreed with you that I can't force myself to believe in something I find silly. I agree with you that I can't force myself to believe in things I don't find silly. Pretty sure those two statements cover everything...

I'll have the foot long thank you.

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 4, 2022:

Sometimes the amount of dick we're given is a curse, not a blessing. I feel for the man.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 5, 2022:

@Lorajay Maybe I could tell them I have balance issues. 😝

It sure seems that way.

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 4, 2022:

I only have one: no kids.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 5, 2022:

@Charles1971 Okay, so I guess I kind of misspoke. My no kids policy is not related to love. You can't control who you love. People fall in love with murderers and arsonists all the time. I worked with a woman who started dating a guy that was in prison and married him when he got out. I don't look for incarcerated women, so it's unlikely that'll happen to me, but it would be silly of me, an agnostic atheist, to say something can't happen that actually could.

What if?

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 23, 2022:

I don't understand what you're trying to say or how it relates to Ukraine...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 4, 2022:

@FrayedBear I can't see a single thing that Walt has posted here, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

2023 RNC meeting. Substitute mammals with libs.

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 4, 2022:

You really see the Dems winning in '22 and '24??

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 4, 2022:

@Garban The text I read is no longer here. You can look in your alerts for this post and see if any of them fail to open this page. That will tell you someone deleted. It's not a big deal though, but some text is gone.

2023 RNC meeting. Substitute mammals with libs.

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 4, 2022:

You really see the Dems winning in '22 and '24??

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 4, 2022:

@Garban I thought I read something to the effect of: I'm mildly optimistic of a dem win in '22 and then something about winning in '24. If you didn't write that, did someone else delete a comment then?

It sure seems that way.

Cyklone comments on Apr 4, 2022:

There is only one way you'll find unconditional love in this world, regardless of your conditions. Buy a dog.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 4, 2022:

Dogs have turned on owners before...

2023 RNC meeting. Substitute mammals with libs.

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 4, 2022:

You really see the Dems winning in '22 and '24??

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 4, 2022:

@Garban Wait, did you edit? Where did I get the bit about '22 & '24?

I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 3, 2022:

Believers and non-believers alike often feel a sense of pride or superiority that stems from their beliefs or foundations for their briefs. And I get the temptation. I often feel it creeping up when I hear someone say something like, "All abortions should be banned no matter the reason" or "Natural ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 4, 2022:

@AnneWimsey So there is a really vocal minority, but they only get one vote each. 80% of Americans believe abortion should be legal in some or all circumstances and only 19% think it should be illegal always. Hell, even 48% think there should be zero restrictions on it (myself included). If their overreach turned pro-choice women (and men) into a single-issue voting block, they'd win every single election at every level of government except for maybe a few sporadic districts filled with the worst this country has to offer... https://news.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

Americans are using credit cards to pay for everything. What happens when the bills come due?

AnneWimsey comments on Apr 3, 2022:

I use a minimum 2% cash back card for Everything, (a coffee at the drive-thru even) pay the bill in full every month. Every 3-4 months i put the accumulated 2% back on the upcoming bill. So in effect They are paying Me to use their card. I think it is a fine thing for them to do! LOL!

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 4, 2022:

I was doing a very similar thing up until June. Except I would save my rewards until I could get extra but using them at a store that would give a bonus. Now I get 3% back on all my purchases with my crypto Visa debit. I have been saving my rewards since I got the card, and hopefully very soon I will be able to upgrade to the next tier that will give me 5% back plus free Spotify, Netflix, & Amazon Prime. Anyone interested in doing the same should talk to me for tips.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

AnneWimsey comments on Apr 1, 2022:

Wow do you ASSume that women in general have had it soooo much easier than slaves, when in fact for most of history they Were slaves, while many if not most men (of every color) were not.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 4, 2022:

@AnneWimsey So while I agree with the fact that women are still lagging a lot on the equality front, and I hope that gets rectified (not exactly sure how that will happen with the Republicans actively trying to turn women into forced incubators, but...) I still wonder if "cunt" will disappear in the process the way the N word did. Is it inextricably tied to the subjugation and slavery of women in the same way? Or is it just a really vulgar insult?

I have often heard atheists and agnostics accused of believing in nothing, especially by apologists.

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 3, 2022:

Believers and non-believers alike often feel a sense of pride or superiority that stems from their beliefs or foundations for their briefs. And I get the temptation. I often feel it creeping up when I hear someone say something like, "All abortions should be banned no matter the reason" or "Natural ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 3, 2022:

@K9Kohle789 They'll probably just say, "God works in mysterious ways, y'all. Do you have anyone you wanna report to get that sweet ten grand?" At this point, I hope Republicans in ALL states try to take away women's rights so women start voting as a block. They are a majority in this country and could have anything thing they wanted if they worked together.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Mooolah comments on Apr 1, 2022:

In the UK its a mild slur. Personnally I was cunty before cunty was cool. I was a "trouble maker" for complaining that a co worker would yell faggot" across the room. I have witnessed the evolution of "fuck" becoming socially excessive & the word "nigger" becoming a hot button slur as "fuck" was in...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 3, 2022:

@Charles1971 You left a comment. You didn't answer the question. If you did, feel free to post the screenshot showing you voted. If you're tired of responding, don't respond.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Mooolah comments on Apr 3, 2022:

The word may be as revolting as the other, & words can influence of course, but a word thrown at me as an insult is attempting to denigrate me & I choose to deny power to that word. I protested inappropriate words yelled across a work space as it create a hostile work environ. Tho it is different ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 3, 2022:

I can own almost everything you said, save for the fact that I smell phenomenal!

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Lorajay comments on Apr 2, 2022:

It all depends on why the man is saying it. Sometimes it is very offensive and sometimes it is a term of endearment as you said in your explanation. Why you didn't offer that as a voting option, I do not know.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 3, 2022:

I'm trying to allow people to take everything into account. It's a question about people's personal opinions of the offensiveness of the two words. Are their less situations in which a white person could "get away with" using the N word than a man saying cunt? Do you think a black woman likely be more offended being called one word over the other? Do you feel one word is more taboo because it carries more underlying meaning or damaging connotation? If a public figure had a recording leaked of them saying one or the other, which do you think would be more damaging to them? If you liked or supported that public figure, which would you be more embarrassed by them using? Which do you think would be a more fair reason for them to get "canceled"? If I said those words at work which would more likely result in me getting fired? There's a ton of ways you can determine which word you personally think is more offensive, and it's completely up to you to decide which one(s) you'll use. Personally, compiling as many scenarios as I could think of to compare the two words, the N word was far and away the clear winner for more offensive.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Mooolah comments on Apr 1, 2022:

In the UK its a mild slur. Personnally I was cunty before cunty was cool. I was a "trouble maker" for complaining that a co worker would yell faggot" across the room. I have witnessed the evolution of "fuck" becoming socially excessive & the word "nigger" becoming a hot button slur as "fuck" was in...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 3, 2022:

@Charles1971 You *didn't* give an answer. You said you didn't need to determine which is worse because you don't use either. For fuck's sake, your first comment literally started, "I don't know the answer to this question". Did you vote in the poll? If you didn't vote and you didn't clearly state your answer in the comments, then you necessarily did not answer the question, you avoided it.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Mooolah comments on Apr 1, 2022:

In the UK its a mild slur. Personnally I was cunty before cunty was cool. I was a "trouble maker" for complaining that a co worker would yell faggot" across the room. I have witnessed the evolution of "fuck" becoming socially excessive & the word "nigger" becoming a hot button slur as "fuck" was in...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 3, 2022:

@Charles1971 All of that is obvious. No one here thought for a second that each word didn't have degrees of its own. And context was already mentioned before as well. David Cross says the actual N word in one of his stands ups, but the context, at least to a vast majority of his fans, made it okay. But that, also, is not what is being asked. I'm asking, in general, in the multitude of contexts you have the ability to imagine, which word, in your opinion, on average, is more off-limits, taboo, offensive, etc. If you're incapable of formulating an opinion on that (the way 12 other people have so far), that's fine, just say you don't have the ability to form an opinion. For clarification the "who" is: a man saying cunt or a white person using the N word. The context is: as many as you can imagine, averaged, or more simply, used against a theoretical black woman in a thought experiment. P.S. Do you really think there's a context in which you could *sarcastically* call a black person you didn't know the N word and have it be okay? How many contexts do you think a white person can say the N word and it would be totally fine?

Do childfree (should be preferred to childless) couples have better sex.

silverotter11 comments on Mar 16, 2022:

Breaking the deep seated societal programing isn't easy and of course education is key. Education, the bane of religion 😁,

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 3, 2022:

@JackPedigo Did anyone else read "*become* childfree" and hear a really ominous tone in their head?

Do childfree (should be preferred to childless) couples have better sex.

waitingforgodo comments on Mar 17, 2022:

If you want to know whether or not Pope Francis has better sex you should ask him.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 3, 2022:

Or little boys that live in Vatican City...

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Mooolah comments on Apr 1, 2022:

In the UK its a mild slur. Personnally I was cunty before cunty was cool. I was a "trouble maker" for complaining that a co worker would yell faggot" across the room. I have witnessed the evolution of "fuck" becoming socially excessive & the word "nigger" becoming a hot button slur as "fuck" was in...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 3, 2022:

@Charles1971 Again, those aren't examples simply of words, those are examples of ideas and hatred communicated *through* words. If the *words themselves* had the power as your comments suggest, they'd have said power regardless of who said them or the context in which they were said. "Okay, boys, strip down to your trunks and jump in already" is a very different set of words when spoken in a public pool and a rectory basement. So the question I'm asking, and the concept that @Mooolah brilliantly highlighted, is: does "cunt" carry with it the tremendous amount of hate and anti-group ideology in its meaning and usage that "the N word" does? Or is it just a really vulgar one word insult?

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Mooolah comments on Apr 1, 2022:

In the UK its a mild slur. Personnally I was cunty before cunty was cool. I was a "trouble maker" for complaining that a co worker would yell faggot" across the room. I have witnessed the evolution of "fuck" becoming socially excessive & the word "nigger" becoming a hot button slur as "fuck" was in...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 3, 2022:

@Charles1971 It's disappointing that you just say we disagree but refuse to explain why or what supports your belief, but whatever.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Mooolah comments on Apr 1, 2022:

In the UK its a mild slur. Personnally I was cunty before cunty was cool. I was a "trouble maker" for complaining that a co worker would yell faggot" across the room. I have witnessed the evolution of "fuck" becoming socially excessive & the word "nigger" becoming a hot button slur as "fuck" was in...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 2, 2022:

@Charles1971 You are missing what she's saying. You're describing actions, opinions, and/or hate, but calling it 'words'. Actually, the more I think about her comment, the more it helps me understand why I think the way I do about the comparison between those two words. The N word has a ton of hate behind it. A whole set of beliefs and ideologies about how black people are lesser simply because of the color of their skin. It's not simply a one word insult. Whereas cunt, to me, is much more akin to something like 'asshole' that can be lobbed indiscriminately at anyone. It's just a personal opinion one person has of another person. It doesn't carry all this other baggage with it. If I call someone a cunt, I'm saying he or she is a shitty person, but I'm not saying that their existence and everyone that looks like them is so detestable that I shouldn't have to share a water fountain with them. I mean, that's a super fucked up level of hatred, and I'm failing to see that in the word cunt.

As more and more stores infringe on family time and open on Thanksgiving, Publix Supermarket is ...

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 1, 2022:

I support businesses being open any days/hours they feel are the best for their business. I had to work every other weekend and holiday my entire career. There's no legitimate reason why store owners should have to lose profits or people of different or no religion should have to be inconvenienced ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 2, 2022:

@JonnaBononna Me too, but in that case you could have "Easter" on any random day you choose that's good for everyone. You don't *have* to impose on others by closing stores and stuff.

I need to complain: my furnace is broken, for the third time this winter.

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 2, 2022:

Do you know what the problem is yet? I only ask because there are a few things that can be wrong with furnaces that are a quick, cheap (or even free) fix. Most notably, a corroded flame sensor. Just ran into that again this winter and fixed it myself in about 10 min for free. This is probably not ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 2, 2022:

@Spinliesel Oh, no, that's pretty much the "essence" of the furnace so to speak. I will preface this with admitting I know very little of what can be known about HVAC, but I think at that point, unfortunately, you're better off getting a whole new unit.

My sentiments exactly... 5 Reasons to Avoid Ad Hominem Arguments [fee.org] .

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 2, 2022:

I just wish people knew the difference between an insult and an Ad Hominem.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 2, 2022:

@racocn8 I imagine the definition of cult is pretty subjective and likely similar to the SCOTUS statement on hard-core pornography that I paraphrase as: I may not be able to define it, but I know it when I see it.

My sentiments exactly... 5 Reasons to Avoid Ad Hominem Arguments [fee.org] .

Fernapple comments on Apr 2, 2022:

Yep, I can live with those five. Seven reasons to always keep ad hominen in mind. 1. While you should not attack facts by ad hom, it can sometimes be useful in judging opinions. 2. If you know someone is dishonest and untruthful, it is best to leave and ignore on the grounds of ad hom, but ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 2, 2022:

I love ALL of this.

My sentiments exactly... 5 Reasons to Avoid Ad Hominem Arguments [fee.org] .

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 2, 2022:

I just wish people knew the difference between an insult and an Ad Hominem.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 2, 2022:

@racocn8 Yes, that, and more simply that someone is wrong *and* a douche bag, not wrong *because* they're a douche bag.

As more and more stores infringe on family time and open on Thanksgiving, Publix Supermarket is ...

Secretguy comments on Apr 1, 2022:

Publix is as right wing as it gets.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 2, 2022:

My mom lived in SC for 20 years and loves that store. I always refer to it as "pube licks". She thinks their seeded Italian bread is amazing. I think it doesn't even hold a candle to the $1 loaf of seeded Italian from Walmart.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

AnneWimsey comments on Apr 1, 2022:

Wow do you ASSume that women in general have had it soooo much easier than slaves, when in fact for most of history they Were slaves, while many if not most men (of every color) were not.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 2, 2022:

@AnneWimsey I think I have underestimated the plight of women throughout history. Unfortunately I don't believe I have done so to such a degree that I think cunt is more offensive than the N word given all of the factors at play. I don't get many people on my posts, so I don't think the voting will tell us much, but I feel very confident that if we did have a representative vote it would align with my belief. Even doing research on the comparison of the two words you'll see cunt written out, but the N word is almost always referred to as "the N word". *If you're comparing the badness of two words, and you won't even say one of them... that's the worse word."* - John Mulaney https://youtu.be/xvy2uobumBc

As more and more stores infringe on family time and open on Thanksgiving, Publix Supermarket is ...

xenoview comments on Apr 1, 2022:

Easter should be treated like every other Sunday, nothing special about it.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 2, 2022:

@Lorajay And I appreciate that. If I didn't want to work any weekends or holidays, people would probably tell me I shouldn't have chosen healthcare because that's a 24/7 gig. And who gets to decide that? The hospital itself. If a store owner feels like it's in their best interest to be open on holidays, I don't see how that's any different. People can boycott them or support them as a result of their decision. I fully support them. In fact, like @JackPedigo said, I will boycott any store that makes this change in the hopes that it curbs this trend in the future.

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ChestRockfield comments on Apr 1, 2022:

I support businesses being open any days/hours they feel are the best for their business. I had to work every other weekend and holiday my entire career. There's no legitimate reason why store owners should have to lose profits or people of different or no religion should have to be inconvenienced ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 2, 2022:

@JonnaBononna Shareholders are not my main concern, either. I have a problem with imposing religiously or culturally motivated restrictions on people that do not belong to those groups. Like Blue laws. Why the fuck can't I buy alcohol on Sunday? If religious folk don't want to buy alcohol on Sunday, they can simply not buy any. But if a store owner wants to sell it to me, and I want to buy it, the religious ideals of some uninvolved third party shouldn't be able to prevent that transaction. I see no difference between that, and stores being pressured to close their doors.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Reignmond comments on Apr 2, 2022:

As a person with a bit of a Scottish ethic and an education, none of them bother me. I am also part Haudenosaunee. The issue comes up about the word "Sqaw" (an Algonkian word) and even a lot of Native are misguided by popular "woke" media BS about the use of the word. To Natives such words were ...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 2, 2022:

I agree with the absurdity of the euphemism treadmill. Thank you for your comment.

As more and more stores infringe on family time and open on Thanksgiving, Publix Supermarket is ...

xenoview comments on Apr 1, 2022:

Easter should be treated like every other Sunday, nothing special about it.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 2, 2022:

@Lorajay True, but I've forgotten to buy stuff. Or I had to work all day and needed to buy stuff for my single lonely person dinner after work.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

anglophone comments on Apr 1, 2022:

Context is crucial, and this is not allowed for in the poll.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 2, 2022:

@anglophone How so? The poll is strictly asking people's opinions. Hypotheticals are a great way to help elicit them.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

AnneWimsey comments on Apr 1, 2022:

Wow do you ASSume that women in general have had it soooo much easier than slaves, when in fact for most of history they Were slaves, while many if not most men (of every color) were not.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

Yes, that is my working assumption. If you have some evidence that all (including white) women were slaves for most of history I'd be interested to read it and change that opinion. However, a couple quick, differently-worded Google searches kept bringing up this article from Vox about how even though white women didn't have equal rights, they did share in the ability to buy, sell, and own black people. https://www.vox.com/2019/8/19/20807633/slavery-white-women-stephanie-jones-rogers-1619

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Charles1971 comments on Apr 1, 2022:

I don't know the answer to this question but I don't use either of those slurs so I don't really have to worry about their individual weight.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

@Charles1971 1. Thought experiments are not about *knowing* things or reading minds. They are about assessing responses to a set of givens to determine how/what a person thinks. The given was that your child *was going to* say those words. How they learned them, why they were going to say them, and how you knew that are all irrelevant to the scenario. When someone posed the Trolly Problem to you, did you just dismiss it without giving an answer and say, "Well, how do I know that all 6 people can't live if I just jump up and down on the tracks?" 2. My cousin used to say "I want more fuck" when he wanted milk. But you know the old saying, 'kids say totally normal, completely expected things.' I think that's the saying anyway. 3. I personally *do* think it would matter. That's what the whole debate is about. Apparently 6 people on Agnostic so far and 14 people from work/home also think it would matter. 4. I don't *know* which would be more offensive to *her*, because *she* is a hypothetical person in a thought experiment to test how *I* think. I'd be willing to bet you could find black women that would be more offended by each of those words. But I based my opinion on my belief that there would be far more black women that would be more offended being called the N word than a cunt. But if you don't feel like playing, that's okay too.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

anglophone comments on Apr 1, 2022:

Context is crucial, and this is not allowed for in the poll.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

@anglophone How about this one: You couldn't venture a guess? Let's say you're in the grocery store with your young child. Next to you is a black woman. You child is about to blurt out the N word and the C word, and you have the ability to magically mute just one of them. Which one would you mute? And use your answer for that to inform your choice on the poll.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

anglophone comments on Apr 1, 2022:

Context is crucial, and this is not allowed for in the poll.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

How is context relevant? The women that told me they were the same and told me to make this poll obviously didn't think context mattered. I don't either. We're taking about *all* situations collectively for both words. Is cunt just as bad as the N word over all situations combined?

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Garban comments on Apr 1, 2022:

The N word to me is dehumanizing. I’m the whitest man on the planet and it offends me because I remember how my father used it. Cunt is a word a man uses for a bitch that has power over him.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

Thank you for your comment. Did you vote by chance?

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Charles1971 comments on Apr 1, 2022:

I don't know the answer to this question but I don't use either of those slurs so I don't really have to worry about their individual weight.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

@Fernapple Thank you. I like to think there's always a way to figure something like that out. Kind of like a logic puzzle.

As more and more stores infringe on family time and open on Thanksgiving, Publix Supermarket is ...

xenoview comments on Apr 1, 2022:

Easter should be treated like every other Sunday, nothing special about it.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

@Lorajay They don't have to work 24 hours every Easter... Trade, bribe, rotate, whatever you need to do, but don't inconvenience a bunch of non-religious or other-religious people.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Charles1971 comments on Apr 1, 2022:

I don't know the answer to this question but I don't use either of those slurs so I don't really have to worry about their individual weight.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

You couldn't venture a guess? Let's say you're in the grocery store with your young child. Next to you is a black woman. You child is about to blurt out the N word and the C word, and you have the ability to magically mute just one of them. Which one would you mute?

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Fernapple comments on Apr 1, 2022:

I will vote for the last one. Because I am convinced by one well known, sadly now gone, feminists arguments. (Sorry about the quality of the video, but it is very old.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDJutaFuVD0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN0oGWNzNxo

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

@p-nullifidian And that was one of my points. How could it possibly be as bad as the N word when it's not even universally bad?

Some unexpected change on the ice.

ChestRockfield comments on Apr 1, 2022:

I would not be surprised if that was something they actually wanted to do though. Plenty of sports have done things specifically to increase scoring and excitement.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

@AnneWimsey I don't know that I care so much about that. The sports thing that annoys me the most is that baseball parks are all different shapes and sizes how can anyone look at records and think any of it is fair or makes sense? They should all be required to have standard sized, symmetrical parks.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Mooolah comments on Apr 1, 2022:

In the UK its a mild slur. Personnally I was cunty before cunty was cool. I was a "trouble maker" for complaining that a co worker would yell faggot" across the room. I have witnessed the evolution of "fuck" becoming socially excessive & the word "nigger" becoming a hot button slur as "fuck" was in...

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

Love this comment SO MUCH! Words have the power that you give them! Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Secretguy comments on Apr 1, 2022:

I find that "twunt" is a better descriptor. Covers more ground.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

And if this caught on and became the new most vulgar word, it would be a perfect example of the euphemism treadmill I talked about.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Fernapple comments on Apr 1, 2022:

I will vote for the last one. Because I am convinced by one well known, sadly now gone, feminists arguments. (Sorry about the quality of the video, but it is very old.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDJutaFuVD0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN0oGWNzNxo

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

@Fernapple I did happen to know that. I researched "cunt" before and learned that nice piece of information.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Theresa_N comments on Apr 1, 2022:

One there is a societal wide norm that it is not to be said, the other is said somewhat frequently. I try never to say the c word either. So both are prohibited as far as I'm concerned so equal.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

@Theresa_N *Nearly* as bad? Isn't that another way to say "not exactly as bad" or "almost as bad but not quite"? Even things one prohibits for themself can have degrees. I don't steal snacks from the work refrigerator and I also don't shit in food I make at home and bring in for pot lucks, but one of those is definitely a worse thing to do. I'm not trying to be a contrarrian, but I think nuance is important here.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

Theresa_N comments on Apr 1, 2022:

One there is a societal wide norm that it is not to be said, the other is said somewhat frequently. I try never to say the c word either. So both are prohibited as far as I'm concerned so equal.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

Just because both are prohibited doesn't mean they're equal though, does it? Stealing a loaf of bread and brutally raping a child are both prohibited, but those certainly aren't the same.

How offensive is the word "cunt"?

UrsiMajor comments on Apr 1, 2022:

Well, if it's something that could get you fired in a workplace zoom chat, you probably shouldn't use it on this website or in public.

ChestRockfield replies on Apr 1, 2022:

"Shit" "fuck" and "gay" could get you fired at work (at least my work) should those really be off-limits everywhere? Also, it really depends on who you are and what the workplace is. Jeffrey Toobin didn't even lose his job for jerking off on a Zoom meeting, so I can't really trust that yardstick.

Will Smith Mocks A Bald Guy On Arsenio

AnneWimsey comments on Mar 29, 2022:

A bald guy who has Male Pattern Baldness, and/or too much testosterone? .Or a guy patchy-bald from a devastating illness? BIG difference, HUGE!

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 31, 2022:

@barjoe It was most likely approved. Gervais said in an interview he wouldn't accept an Oscar gig is because he likes the freedom of the Globes where he can tell whatever jokes he wants.

Lots of folks who realized that religion was a tall tale, go on to parrot what they hear from the ...

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 30, 2022:

Assuming all of that is true, how exactly is Russia still not the aggressor rolling into the country and bombing the fuck out of them exactly?

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 31, 2022:

@Archeus_Lore I'm fine with assigning blame to the US for instigating everything, but that still doesn't mean we shouldn't blame Russia for taking the bait.

Will Smith Mocks A Bald Guy On Arsenio

AnneWimsey comments on Mar 29, 2022:

A bald guy who has Male Pattern Baldness, and/or too much testosterone? .Or a guy patchy-bald from a devastating illness? BIG difference, HUGE!

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 31, 2022:

@Deb57 Here's the thing, there's practically nothing in this world you can't find at least one person would be offended by, so if you use the metric 'If it's offensive to anyone, you can't say it' then no one could say anything, ever. It is my personal philosophy that how offensive a word is, is directly proportional to the plight suffered by the group the word is meant to malign. The fact that you think 'cunt' is as bad as the N word is shockingly dismissive of what African Americans have suffered. Additionally, as I stated, 'cunt' isn't exclusive to women. In some areas (like Australia and New Zeeland) cunt is almost exclusively used for men. And in other areas of the world it's not very offensive at all. Overall, it's mostly used to "up the ante" as the next step on a "euphemism treadmill" if you know what that means. The fact that *you* get so offended by it when there's no real reason for you to is on you. But I have nothing against women and accusing me of it because of your hangup is pretty shitty. Furthermore, alienating men who have always been champions of women's causes just because you don't like a word is pretty self-sabotaging. You've conversed with me before. Did I ever seem unreasonable to you before? Did I ever seem misogynistic to you before? If so, I'd love to know what else makes you think that. If not, maybe it's worth it to take a step back and see if it's really appropriate to write someone off simply because they said 'cunt'.

Will Smith Mocks A Bald Guy On Arsenio

AnneWimsey comments on Mar 29, 2022:

A bald guy who has Male Pattern Baldness, and/or too much testosterone? .Or a guy patchy-bald from a devastating illness? BIG difference, HUGE!

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 31, 2022:

@Deb57 I call men cunts ALL THE TIME. Actually much more frequently than women. It has nothing to do with *all* women. Watch some British comedy and you'll see it's not a sex or gender thing (unlike your comparison to the N word, which I think that comparison is probably pretty offensive in its own right to people of color). Unless you *personally* think "cunt" is *only* for women for some reason? That seems kind of sexist though. *"People offended by the C word would hear it a lot less if they didn't go around acting like such cunts." - Ricky Gervais*

What if?

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 23, 2022:

I don't understand what you're trying to say or how it relates to Ukraine...

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 31, 2022:

@FrayedBear Why did you tag me in that response as if it was a response to anything I said?

Lots of folks who realized that religion was a tall tale, go on to parrot what they hear from the ...

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 30, 2022:

Assuming all of that is true, how exactly is Russia still not the aggressor rolling into the country and bombing the fuck out of them exactly?

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 31, 2022:

@Archeus_Lore Yup, I'm not someone you can easily sway with your nonsensical whataboutism, so I'm a waste of time. Sounds about right for your kind.

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ChestRockfield comments on Mar 31, 2022:

Extrapolate that. How wonderful would it be if all *humans* disappeared right now?

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 31, 2022:

@FrayedBear *Obviously, I'm glossing over the idiocy of the notion that I have any power or control over this situation whatsoever.*

I wonder what would happen if all the politicians on the planet just disappeared, that way we would ...

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 31, 2022:

Extrapolate that. How wonderful would it be if all *humans* disappeared right now?

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 31, 2022:

@FrayedBear Sweet!

Lots of folks who realized that religion was a tall tale, go on to parrot what they hear from the ...

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 30, 2022:

Assuming all of that is true, how exactly is Russia still not the aggressor rolling into the country and bombing the fuck out of them exactly?

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 31, 2022:

@Archeus_Lore I guess you are deaf. I already said multiple times I'll grant you any of the accusations you want to lob against the US. 100%. Across the board. None of it is relevant to my position on Ukraine. Until you can utter something that isn't whataboutism, you're wasting your breath.

Will Smith Mocks A Bald Guy On Arsenio

AnneWimsey comments on Mar 29, 2022:

A bald guy who has Male Pattern Baldness, and/or too much testosterone? .Or a guy patchy-bald from a devastating illness? BIG difference, HUGE!

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 31, 2022:

@Deb57 I strive to not be misogynistic. Can you explain how what I said displayed contempt for *women* instead of a single *person* who happens to be a female/woman so I can make some changes?

What if?

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 23, 2022:

I don't understand what you're trying to say or how it relates to Ukraine...

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 31, 2022:

@FrayedBear And who the fuck is Walt?

What if?

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 23, 2022:

I don't understand what you're trying to say or how it relates to Ukraine...

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 31, 2022:

@FrayedBear You're arguing as if all actions are potentially justifiable. Like you could walk into your house, see someone raping your daughter, they immediately say, "Let me explain why this had to happen" and you'd be like, "Yeah, I need to hear him out just in case he has a really good reason." I'm not going to read any of your links, especially lengthy ones, until you can provide a proof of concept so to speak. Explain to me the type of information that could be detailed that I'd care about. *Start with the assumption that two wrongs don't make a right, so any whataboutism on your part will be deemed irrelevant and fucking annoying.*

Lots of folks who realized that religion was a tall tale, go on to parrot what they hear from the ...

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 30, 2022:

Assuming all of that is true, how exactly is Russia still not the aggressor rolling into the country and bombing the fuck out of them exactly?

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 30, 2022:

@Archeus_Lore Are you deaf? I'm not condoning what the US has done. That has nothing to do with this though. If you were never allowed to condemn bad behavior if bad behavior had ever happened before (you're using whataboutism here) then no behavior could ever be condemned for the rest of human existence. That seems like a pretty stupid fuckin' model to base or opinions and actions on. Maybe our access to the truth from the media isn't the best, but I'm willing to bet anything that it's better than Russian citizens' access to the truth from the media.

What if?

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 23, 2022:

I don't understand what you're trying to say or how it relates to Ukraine...

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 30, 2022:

@FrayedBear Who the fuck said they were *surprised* by his tactics?? We're saying they're wrong, not surprising.

Lots of folks who realized that religion was a tall tale, go on to parrot what they hear from the ...

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 30, 2022:

Assuming all of that is true, how exactly is Russia still not the aggressor rolling into the country and bombing the fuck out of them exactly?

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 30, 2022:

@Archeus_Lore None of that addresses my objection. I'm willing to grant ALL of that as 100% true. I STILL don't believe you can be the good guys when you invade and bomb schools, maternity wards, and Red Cross warehouses.

Lots of folks who realized that religion was a tall tale, go on to parrot what they hear from the ...

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 30, 2022:

Assuming all of that is true, how exactly is Russia still not the aggressor rolling into the country and bombing the fuck out of them exactly?

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 30, 2022:

@Krish55 Apparently they've bombed a fucking Red Cross warehouse now too. If someone has a hard time taking sides knowing the targets Russia is going after they're a fucking moron. Even if you don't want to side with Ukraine, you should still be siding with *Ukrainians.*

What if?

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 23, 2022:

I don't understand what you're trying to say or how it relates to Ukraine...

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 30, 2022:

@FrayedBear How many times must it be said that no amount of wrongdoing by the United States (or anyone else) should force anyone (including the US) to condone or support more wrongdoing. That is an idiotic way to think. If that were the template for how things should be judged, we'd all have to condone every act of violence for the rest of human civilization, which, obviously, is fucking idiotic. The fact that you don't formulate your beliefs/responses with that in mind says so much about you.

Lots of folks who realized that religion was a tall tale, go on to parrot what they hear from the ...

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 30, 2022:

Assuming all of that is true, how exactly is Russia still not the aggressor rolling into the country and bombing the fuck out of them exactly?

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 30, 2022:

@Krish55 I'm not saying one side is 100% to blame, but when that side is blowing up schools and maternity wards, the scales tip WAY in that direction.

Will Smith Mocks A Bald Guy On Arsenio

AnneWimsey comments on Mar 29, 2022:

A bald guy who has Male Pattern Baldness, and/or too much testosterone? .Or a guy patchy-bald from a devastating illness? BIG difference, HUGE!

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 29, 2022:

@Deb57 I don't really give a fuck how far she would have gotten. Whatever we could speculate on that would still have nothing to do with what transpired. And as I already said, looks matter for most things for most people. It's a fact. If you happen to have an extraordinary talent, a one in a million skill, however, that's probably an exception to that rule. For instance, if LeBron James was ugly, no one sitting in his home court stands would give a single fuck while he was out there being the greatest basketball player of all time and winning championships. Come to think of it, though, acting is also part of that category. How hot is Kathy Bates exactly? She's an INCREDIBLE actress. She's got Emmys, Oscars, SAG Awards, all coming out of her ears. She could lose every hair on her body and her acting chops would still put asses in seats. It's been over three goddamn decades, and I *still* get chills when I play scenes from Misery in my head. It's actually kind of absurd you'd try to make this point (that would be very poignant for a business woman) about an actress. Of course, maybe you would need to make that argument for Jada because she's a piss poor actress. Maybe the *only* reason that pile of shit ever even got a job at all was because she used to look good. Also, even if *she* didn't have a career at all she'd still be sitting on half of Will Smith's $350 MILLION dollars, so my point still stands. She doesn't need to bite her tongue or swallow her pride (again, probably difficult with all those dicks she's swallowing) so those arguments don't really hold any water.

Will Smith Mocks A Bald Guy On Arsenio

AnneWimsey comments on Mar 29, 2022:

A bald guy who has Male Pattern Baldness, and/or too much testosterone? .Or a guy patchy-bald from a devastating illness? BIG difference, HUGE!

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 29, 2022:

@barjoe *I'm* judging Jada. I fuckin' hate that kind of manipulative bullshit. Will was laughing before that cuntface gave him an evil look. Physical violence shouldn't ever be the response to words. And what the fuck makes her so fucking special that her flaws are so off-limits to joke about that people deserve to be physically assaulted for mentioning them? That's some shit kings and dictators do. Fuck that bitch. Because of her pettiness, so many people in the world know how much of a total pile of shit she is. I do not follow gossip. At all. But as a result of this I learned the reason she can't speak up for herself is because her mouth is frequently too full of her son's friend's cock to talk. I probably would have gone the rest of my life not knowing that if she had been a rational fucking adult.

Will Smith Mocks A Bald Guy On Arsenio

AnneWimsey comments on Mar 29, 2022:

A bald guy who has Male Pattern Baldness, and/or too much testosterone? .Or a guy patchy-bald from a devastating illness? BIG difference, HUGE!

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 29, 2022:

@Deb57 Technically almost all people's lots of things depends partly on looks. Countless studies have been done highlighting this fact. But let's not pretend Jada is some poor downtrodden woman struggling to make ends meet that has to bite her tongue to keep her minimum wage job. She is an ultra-rich celebrity that was attending a glamorous gala (that has a long history of looking fun at members of the Hollywood elite I might add) of a bunch of the upper class, circle jerking to how awesome they all are while the rest of the world is burning.

One of the most influential scientists of our lifetime, E.

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 26, 2022:

For someone always touting the evolutionary roots of religion and claiming because of them we shouldn't wish to eliminate religion, you both sure are quick to think we should somehow collectively dispose of our evolutionarily ingrained tribalism. That doesn't sound contradictory to you??

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 29, 2022:

@skado Wow. 🤦 So trick as many people as you can with your logical fallacies. Brush off any of the people that call you out on your apologetic bullshit.

One of the most influential scientists of our lifetime, E.

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 26, 2022:

For someone always touting the evolutionary roots of religion and claiming because of them we shouldn't wish to eliminate religion, you both sure are quick to think we should somehow collectively dispose of our evolutionarily ingrained tribalism. That doesn't sound contradictory to you??

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 28, 2022:

@skado You've gotta be fucking kidding me. 1. Having a strong identity with a group, adherence to a group, and loyalty to a group only comes with deference to that group *above others.* Tribes and tribalism imply factionalism. From the wiki on tribalism: "The tendencies of members to unite against an outside tribe and the ability to act violently and prejudicially against that outside tribe likely boosted the chances of survival in genocidal conflicts." 2. Your first definition details the beliefs of the tribe. I already made mention of the polar opposite beliefs just in the US alone. Your back-door escape hatch explanation for why this post isn't idiotically hypocritical is to claim that we need to get the entire world to share the same beliefs? Your second definition is pure nonsense in a world with literally only one tribe. 3. Your statement that religion and organized religion *combat* factionalism may be one of the most romanticized, idealistic, and exceptionally stupid claims you've made during all of your rants as a religious apologist. There are few, if any, holy books that don't tout, support, condone, and outright call for factionalism. Fuck, the Bible talks about enslaving people of neighboring nations. 4. Even if tribalism and factionalism are two different things and you could get the entire world to hold the same beliefs, why would it be the beliefs that we still need religion to solve our evolutionary mismatch? That would be objectively false considering the amazing accomplishment of getting the entire world's population to share the same beliefs, and any problems that would arise would be much more easily and readily solved through simple discussion and explanation to billions of people that all share your beliefs. That would be like teaching every single person in the entire world English so that they could all understand reruns of Star Trek so that eventually everyone could learn Klingon and we could finally have a global language.

Chemical Found in Broccoli Shown To Slow Growth of COVID-19 and Common Cold Viruses

BitFlipper comments on Mar 27, 2022:

I'll bet Brussels Sprouts have it too. Ha ha ha .. more for me!

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 28, 2022:

Aren't they amazing? I don't have any clue why they have such a bad rep.

One of the most influential scientists of our lifetime, E.

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 26, 2022:

For someone always touting the evolutionary roots of religion and claiming because of them we shouldn't wish to eliminate religion, you both sure are quick to think we should somehow collectively dispose of our evolutionarily ingrained tribalism. That doesn't sound contradictory to you??

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 28, 2022:

@skado Dude, really? It was actually already in quotes, from Wilson, directly in your post. "Somehow we’ve got to make the population of the world more like one tribe. And then turn to what you might call a definition - if it’s one tribe, and there’s no competing faiths to muck the whole thing up - you develop one tribe, then you will have transcendent moral values.” Oh, also you said this a couple comments ago, "Yes, we need religion. No, we don't need forty of them. We are a global society now. Tribal societies didn't have forty religions. They had one each. Our global society is the same. We need one cohesive narrative - not forty (or a thousand) competing narratives." How are these not both pleas to eliminate tribalism from our world and a direct contradiction to the 'it is/was evolutionarily advantageous so we should preserve it' mentality you've been pushing, incessantly, on this platform?

One of the most influential scientists of our lifetime, E.

ChestRockfield comments on Mar 26, 2022:

For someone always touting the evolutionary roots of religion and claiming because of them we shouldn't wish to eliminate religion, you both sure are quick to think we should somehow collectively dispose of our evolutionarily ingrained tribalism. That doesn't sound contradictory to you??

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 27, 2022:

@skado But we *aren't* a global society. We can't even live civilly in America. Half of the US seems fine with an attempt to overthrow our government because they didn't win an election. How the fuck can we even begin to suggest we're one global society? Even if we could be, though, to wish for, or attempt to do, whatever would be needed to eliminate tribes from our world, given tribalism is/was evolutionarily advantageous, would be directly contradictory to your notion that we should not wish to eliminate religion because it is/was evolutionarily advantageous. I'm thoroughly confused how you could fail to see that, leaving the only logical conclusion to be that you're an apologist who is willing to be intellectually dishonest for the furtherance of their cause.

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ChestRockfield comments on Mar 26, 2022:

For someone always touting the evolutionary roots of religion and claiming because of them we shouldn't wish to eliminate religion, you both sure are quick to think we should somehow collectively dispose of our evolutionarily ingrained tribalism. That doesn't sound contradictory to you??

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 27, 2022:

@skado Are you honestly suggesting that you didn't have an extended debate with me about the dangers of discarding religion because it was evolutionarily advantageous in the past and likely would continue to be beneficial in the future? I'm not going to waste my time searching through your garrulous posting on the subject trying to pinpoint the couple where we've had variations on that same argument. If you're too intellectually dishonest to admit your prior stance, or so forgetful you can't even remember what you said within the past few weeks or months, then you're useless to talk to. And please don't bother with the ego nonsense. You're talking to someone who knows they are insignificant, useless, and hopes to die in his sleep every night he goes to bed. My ego means fuck all to me. I just hate inconsistency and nonsense, especially when it is as recurrent as your posts on the value of religion.

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ChestRockfield comments on Mar 27, 2022:

I don't give a shit what it is. I don't eat an animal *because* of what kind of animal it was, I eat it because it tastes good. I love how people think that is a convincing argument. People have said to me (because I love cats), "what if I cooked a cat and fed it to you before I told you what it ...

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 27, 2022:

@Mooolah My point was that using coolant as your example created a false equivalency. There's nothing inherent to felines that makes them more dangerous to your health to consume. I'd actually venture to guess that cat meat is leaner and healthier than cow or pig. Furthermore, your claim that hedonistic food choices can't be made responsibly and in moderation is also nonsensical.

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ChestRockfield comments on Mar 27, 2022:

I don't give a shit what it is. I don't eat an animal *because* of what kind of animal it was, I eat it because it tastes good. I love how people think that is a convincing argument. People have said to me (because I love cats), "what if I cooked a cat and fed it to you before I told you what it ...

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 27, 2022:

@Mooolah Are you suggesting that eating cats would kill you?

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dalefvictor comments on Mar 27, 2022:

I do. I take lots of vit D also.

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 27, 2022:

Don't over do the vit D. It is a fat soluble vitamin and you *can* take too much...

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ChestRockfield comments on Mar 26, 2022:

For someone always touting the evolutionary roots of religion and claiming because of them we shouldn't wish to eliminate religion, you both sure are quick to think we should somehow collectively dispose of our evolutionarily ingrained tribalism. That doesn't sound contradictory to you??

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 27, 2022:

@skado Whether it can be accomplished is irrelevant, as this and the other referenced topic are always spoken in terms of 'ought'. *You're* the one that rails against discarding [possibly formerly] evolutionarily-advantageous religious beliefs/practices. The fact that you don't hold that same mentality, here, regardless of how unlikely it is, is very telling.

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ChestRockfield comments on Mar 26, 2022:

For someone always touting the evolutionary roots of religion and claiming because of them we shouldn't wish to eliminate religion, you both sure are quick to think we should somehow collectively dispose of our evolutionarily ingrained tribalism. That doesn't sound contradictory to you??

ChestRockfield replies on Mar 26, 2022:

@skado Saying you can harness tribalism by making everyone one tribe is as nonsensical as saying every city can be Super Bowl Champions if we just combine all teams into one and declare them the winners because no opponents showed up to the game.

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Uugh, you can only upload 5? I just spent ten minutes scrolling to add all of them.