A few posts/comments I've written on the isssue of abortion .

FearlessFly comments on Oct 11, 2021:

. . . safe, legal, rare.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 12, 2021:

@FearlessFly Why though? Because of risk to the mother or because it's a bad thing to do to the fetus?

A few posts/comments I've written on the isssue of abortion .

FearlessFly comments on Oct 11, 2021:

. . . safe, legal, rare.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 11, 2021:

Kind of surprised you included the "rare" part of the mantra. Either abortion is okay or it is not. If it's okay, why does it matter how often it's done? To claim it should be rare lends credence to the thought that the women are doing something bad or wrong. Unless you ONLY meant rare in the context that abortions can sometimes be dangerous for the mother, so prevention is key to reducing the potential complications that could arise from the [now] reduced number of needed abortions?

With what is going on in Texas, it makes me wonder if society of this country sees women as property...

FrayedBear comments on Oct 10, 2021:

Why? Gentle gender? They've been driving the barbaric practice of circumcision of men for long time. They are responsible for 50% or more of so called domestic violence. They are in most cases responsible for their pregnancies.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 11, 2021:

@FrayedBear Which you can be, from rape. Is that really the only thing you have to hang your argument on? You can't refute anything I've said? Rape exists. It has since the dawn of man, and there is no indication it will ever go away before life ceases to exist. So if you don't have an argument that's not easily and completely destroyed by the fact that rape exists, then you picked a really shitty, indefensible position.

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FrayedBear comments on Oct 10, 2021:

Why? Gentle gender? They've been driving the barbaric practice of circumcision of men for long time. They are responsible for 50% or more of so called domestic violence. They are in most cases responsible for their pregnancies.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 11, 2021:

@FrayedBear Just because you say "most cases" doesn't change the fact that your claim of, "Total absolute unequivocal control of their bodies" is completely false. You can't have total control * except in the cases when you don't. * Would you drop your dog off at a kennel that said they would never rape your dog... * except for they days they do? * You are completely wrong about #3. Ectopic pregnancies can be life threatening and absolutely could require abortion. Anencephaly would also be a condition that wouldn't result in spontaneous abortion. Also, the frequency at which these things happen is completely irrelevant. * You * claimed that women have have "total absolute unequivocal control of their bodies," so if there is even one woman that doesn't, for any of the reasons I listed and any others I didn't, it disproves your misogynistic, hateful, nonsensical claims. And your attempt at equivocating a severe deformity of a fetus who's depending on and endangering the life of its host to a self-sufficient human who had an accident is probably the most asinine argument you've made in this thread so far. 5. So you're now claiming that stupid people aren't allowed to have control over their bodies? That wasn't a parameter you mentioned at the beginning. The fact of the matter is your argument is still self-defeating because if stupid women exist then there are women who could only have control by giving up control. We've agreed on a lot of stuff, and we've disagreed before, but honestly this is the worst argument you've ever made. I implore you to reevaluate.

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bobwjr comments on Oct 10, 2021:

The assholes passed horrible laws, that's religion for you

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 11, 2021:

Not all Republicans are religious. This is the fault of the Republicans...

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Ryo1 comments on Oct 11, 2021:

Hi there. I think that regardless of gender, everybody should look after their bodies, i.e., health.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 11, 2021:

What does that have to do with anything?

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FrayedBear comments on Oct 10, 2021:

Why? Gentle gender? They've been driving the barbaric practice of circumcision of men for long time. They are responsible for 50% or more of so called domestic violence. They are in most cases responsible for their pregnancies.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 11, 2021:

@FrayedBear That may just be the most sexist and wrong statement of the year. 1. Rape 2. Accidents/ failed birth control 3. Deformities that prompt or even require abortion 4. Change of other circumstances that changes a wanted pregnancy to an unwanted pregnancy 5. Your argument is claiming women can have control over their bodies only by removing sexual control/choice over their bodies. Argument self-defeated.

I do realize that I have been guilty of not always following this/

ChestRockfield comments on Oct 10, 2021:

That's total bullshit. Not all opinions are equal or valid, and humiliating/shunning people is a very important tool to try to either change or suppress them. Do you think we should respect the person and be fine with them voicing the opinion that black people should be slaves or Jewish people ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 11, 2021:

@glennlab I thought you meant you had a way to * engage * with respect. I guess I'm just a little more, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,” and a little less, "Live and let live." I care a little more about showing respect and empathy to those that are the targets of hate, letting them know they have an ally in me than deference and silence to the hateful, thereby allowing the broadcast of their messages without objection. I also can't associate with those that harbor such arbitrary hate for the sake of friendship or family togetherness. I have disowned numerous family members for this reason. If they suffer no consequences from being hateful, what exactly prompts them to change?

I do realize that I have been guilty of not always following this/

ChestRockfield comments on Oct 10, 2021:

That's total bullshit. Not all opinions are equal or valid, and humiliating/shunning people is a very important tool to try to either change or suppress them. Do you think we should respect the person and be fine with them voicing the opinion that black people should be slaves or Jewish people ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 10, 2021:

@glennlab I'm being sincere. How do you talk to someone described above with respect and empathy? * And how do you do so without looking like a Nazi sympathizer? *

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FrayedBear comments on Oct 10, 2021:

Why? Gentle gender? They've been driving the barbaric practice of circumcision of men for long time. They are responsible for 50% or more of so called domestic violence. They are in most cases responsible for their pregnancies.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 10, 2021:

@FrayedBear How do they have it? There are tons of restrictions on abortion in every state in the US and most, if not all countries around the world.

With what is going on in Texas, it makes me wonder if society of this country sees women as property...

FrayedBear comments on Oct 10, 2021:

Why? Gentle gender? They've been driving the barbaric practice of circumcision of men for long time. They are responsible for 50% or more of so called domestic violence. They are in most cases responsible for their pregnancies.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 10, 2021:

@FrayedBear Are you asking if women deserve bodily autonomy?

With what is going on in Texas, it makes me wonder if society of this country sees women as property...

FrayedBear comments on Oct 10, 2021:

Why? Gentle gender? They've been driving the barbaric practice of circumcision of men for long time. They are responsible for 50% or more of so called domestic violence. They are in most cases responsible for their pregnancies.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 10, 2021:

Wow. Even if that were true, why should that mean they should be denied autonomy?

I do realize that I have been guilty of not always following this/

ChestRockfield comments on Oct 10, 2021:

That's total bullshit. Not all opinions are equal or valid, and humiliating/shunning people is a very important tool to try to either change or suppress them. Do you think we should respect the person and be fine with them voicing the opinion that black people should be slaves or Jewish people ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 10, 2021:

@glennlab I wasn't flipping * you * off. And I asked * how * to not be objectionable in a situation like that because I agree, I have no idea how to do that. If you do, as you're suggesting, and you want people to follow suit, as your OP is requesting, then please teach me how. For instance, what would you say to someone who was waving a Nazi flag, had a hat that read, "I hate [N word]", and a shirt that read, "Reopen Auschwitz. Take take care of our Jew problem."

Saturday morning fire

ChestRockfield comments on Oct 9, 2021:

Is this an Emma Stone fake?

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 10, 2021:

@RobertNappi2 I just said that.

I do realize that I have been guilty of not always following this/

ChestRockfield comments on Oct 10, 2021:

That's total bullshit. Not all opinions are equal or valid, and humiliating/shunning people is a very important tool to try to either change or suppress them. Do you think we should respect the person and be fine with them voicing the opinion that black people should be slaves or Jewish people ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 10, 2021:

@glennlab How would a response showing respect and empathy * to the racists * go exactly, and in what world would showing respect and empathy to someone who wants to murder people for arbitrary reasons * not * make you look like a racist yourself?

Saturday morning fire

ChestRockfield comments on Oct 9, 2021:

Is this an Emma Stone fake?

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 9, 2021:

@RobertNappi2 Show us the research. She made news of the fact that she did a nude scene in a movie yet there's not one single word about a nude photo shoot.

Saturday morning fire

ChestRockfield comments on Oct 9, 2021:

Is this an Emma Stone fake?

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 9, 2021:

@RobertNappi2 She did not pose nude.

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Cyklone comments on Oct 7, 2021:

Hmm. What about Lewis Carrol? Through The Looking Glass and all his other stories were for the little girl, Alice, who he "looked after", after paying her mother to leave her with him.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 9, 2021:

@Cyklone In the same way that IBS is "interesting".

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Cyklone comments on Oct 7, 2021:

Hmm. What about Lewis Carrol? Through The Looking Glass and all his other stories were for the little girl, Alice, who he "looked after", after paying her mother to leave her with him.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 8, 2021:

@Cyklone You're right on both counts there; life is the worst and I loathe how inscrutable and unpredictable humans are.

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Fernapple comments on Oct 8, 2021:

No information is useful in deconverting the religious. They have no interest in information. Everyone has to find their own path out, and finding an interest in information is one of the last stages, after people escape.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 8, 2021:

This.

Brainwashed

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 30, 2021:

What makes beef, pork, and chicken farmers more deserving of such a ban than producers of the millions of other products we consume in this country?

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 8, 2021:

@whiskywoman Our 4th biggest import is pharmaceuticals, and many people definitely can't live without those. Meat doesn't even crack the top ten. Just trying to figure out what makes American meat producers so special.

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rainmanjr comments on Oct 6, 2021:

I have held many boycotts over years, one being against Exxon (after Valdez) but one still buys gas from somewhere. Consistency of *belief* is a good thing to carve out but not of ethic or moral. Those are vague and have unintended consequences. In principle, try to be kind or, at least, respectful ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 7, 2021:

@rainmanjr Yeah, I'm lost. I'm sorry. Just not seeing * why * moral/ethical determinations * aren't * your beliefs (e.g. I * believe * it is immoral to legislate control over women's bodies. I * believe * it is unethical to torture prisoners.)

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Word comments on Oct 6, 2021:

We should boycott the government to have them eradicated so Everyone would have true freedom to enjoy their own brick home and not be forced to live under bridges and enslaved to capitalism slavery.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 7, 2021:

@Word No, I'm saying that the inherent awfulness of humans now unbridled by governmental authority wouldn't invade your little brick home and destroy your dream state?

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Cyklone comments on Oct 7, 2021:

Hmm. What about Lewis Carrol? Through The Looking Glass and all his other stories were for the little girl, Alice, who he "looked after", after paying her mother to leave her with him.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 7, 2021:

@Cyklone I think that's where most people are at. For people like me and @Fernapple, it just doesn't work. Having tensions in my beliefs eats away at me.

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Word comments on Oct 6, 2021:

We should boycott the government to have them eradicated so Everyone would have true freedom to enjoy their own brick home and not be forced to live under bridges and enslaved to capitalism slavery.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 7, 2021:

@Word I see, just curious if you thought that could actually work...

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rainmanjr comments on Oct 6, 2021:

I have held many boycotts over years, one being against Exxon (after Valdez) but one still buys gas from somewhere. Consistency of *belief* is a good thing to carve out but not of ethic or moral. Those are vague and have unintended consequences. In principle, try to be kind or, at least, respectful ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 7, 2021:

@rainmanjr I'm still not seeing the distinction you're making between * beliefs * about what's right an wrong and ethics/morals. Your latest comment brings up additional questions, too. While your ethics and morals * should * inform your actions, that is not always (or in some people, even regularly) the case. I do things that I believe are morally wrong, not sure why. I'm also unsure why the thing most important to me is consistency, but it is.

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skado comments on Oct 6, 2021:

I didn’t know who the guy was, so this particular instance is not an issue for me. But in general... I tend to think consistency for consistency’s sake can produce as much harm as good sometimes. The question becomes ‘consistent with what?’. Without stating the specific principle ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 7, 2021:

@Fernapple All very true. So while I can't reconcile beliefs on every single topic ever, I can actively attempt to prevent holding two beliefs that contradict one another. I can avoid being the asshole that condemns cock fighting while cutting off their beaks, hanging them upside-down, slitting their throats, and dipping them in scalding water while they're still alive before they get turned into the chicken sandwich I'm enjoying.

Brainwashed

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 30, 2021:

What makes beef, pork, and chicken farmers more deserving of such a ban than producers of the millions of other products we consume in this country?

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 7, 2021:

@whiskywoman But that's true of say TV manufacturers, too, no?

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Cyklone comments on Oct 7, 2021:

Hmm. What about Lewis Carrol? Through The Looking Glass and all his other stories were for the little girl, Alice, who he "looked after", after paying her mother to leave her with him.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 7, 2021:

Not sure exactly what you're asking. Are you saying that's someone why should be the target of a boycott? Can you shed some light on how to create the rule on when you should boycott and when you don't have to?

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p-nullifidian comments on Oct 6, 2021:

An excellent question. I believe time is a component that may be overlooked here. The vile actions of R. Kelly are perhaps too fresh in the minds of many to separate the art from the artist. I am reminded of the case of playing Richard Wagner in Israel. For many decades following the end of ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 7, 2021:

@p-nullifidian So in this example I was referring to something like Chick-fil-A's owner's funding of anti-gay groups and lobbyists. If the owner were to die, but the heirs or the estate still continued to donate money to that cause, the death of that original bad actor would seem to be inconsequential at that point.

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p-nullifidian comments on Oct 6, 2021:

An excellent question. I believe time is a component that may be overlooked here. The vile actions of R. Kelly are perhaps too fresh in the minds of many to separate the art from the artist. I am reminded of the case of playing Richard Wagner in Israel. For many decades following the end of ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 6, 2021:

@p-nullifidian Even if the money still went to the bad cause that made you start the boycott in the first place?

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rainmanjr comments on Oct 6, 2021:

I have held many boycotts over years, one being against Exxon (after Valdez) but one still buys gas from somewhere. Consistency of *belief* is a good thing to carve out but not of ethic or moral. Those are vague and have unintended consequences. In principle, try to be kind or, at least, respectful ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 6, 2021:

I don't know that I necessarily understand the distinction you're making between beliefs and ethics/morals. I don't have any Carl's Jr. near me, but all I can think of when I hear it is, "brought to you by Carl's Jr." from Idiocracy.

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skado comments on Oct 6, 2021:

I didn’t know who the guy was, so this particular instance is not an issue for me. But in general... I tend to think consistency for consistency’s sake can produce as much harm as good sometimes. The question becomes ‘consistent with what?’. Without stating the specific principle ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 6, 2021:

@skado Well, there are some brilliant minds here, and I think I'm going to need to hear different ideas and bounce some of mine off people. Hopefully, together, we can come up with something. Thanks for the comments.

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p-nullifidian comments on Oct 6, 2021:

An excellent question. I believe time is a component that may be overlooked here. The vile actions of R. Kelly are perhaps too fresh in the minds of many to separate the art from the artist. I am reminded of the case of playing Richard Wagner in Israel. For many decades following the end of ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 6, 2021:

So that's one of the questions I posed. Does the boycott last until death at which point the contribution can be enjoyed? What if there was trust set up that continued to be funded by royalties after death that carried on whatever behavior was the reason for the boycott? Would you have to continue the boycott? What if the heirs felt the same way as the boycotted person (e.g. they also donated to anti-gay/black etc. groups) the boycott would need to remain intact? What if we went in the reverse direction? Say there was a medical researcher that developed a medication that cured Type I Diabetes, but we found out he molested children. Would the rules for boycotting dictate that we refuse to cure our diabetes so he didn't get the proceeds? Or what if a boycotted person was donating a percentage of their profits to children's cancer care and research? Is there a non-100% percentage that would be sufficient cause to not boycott? If R. Kelly donated 99.5% of all the money he made to a good cause like that, then what? Should all those kids suffer to keep the half percent out of his pocket? You see why I'm struggling with this?

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Word comments on Oct 6, 2021:

We should boycott the government to have them eradicated so Everyone would have true freedom to enjoy their own brick home and not be forced to live under bridges and enslaved to capitalism slavery.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 6, 2021:

You think everyone would be able to live in their own home safely if we lived in an anarchy? That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic, but thanks for the comment.

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skado comments on Oct 6, 2021:

I didn’t know who the guy was, so this particular instance is not an issue for me. But in general... I tend to think consistency for consistency’s sake can produce as much harm as good sometimes. The question becomes ‘consistent with what?’. Without stating the specific principle ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 6, 2021:

I may not have explained myself well. I'm taking about keeping my beliefs logically consistent with each other. For example, I dying think it's logically consistent to condemn Michael Vick for dog fighting (no one actually believes that punishment was because of the gambling) while at the same time torturing the fuck out of chickens, pigs, and cows on a daily basis by supporting the commercial meat industry. So the question for me is how can I set up parameters for boycotts that won't leave me contradicting myself? I got rid of my Facebook 5 years ago and I advocate everyone else so the same for so many reasons, but that's another topic.

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powder comments on Oct 6, 2021:

Life is fluid and wavy with ups and down. Belief's change. Excellent example is everyone was crapping on about tolerance a few years ago, but now with those who choose no to be vaxxinated against covid, freedom of belief and all that has gone out the window and intolerance is actually encouraged ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 6, 2021:

Beliefs * should * change in light of new evidence, but I don't see that as running counter to developing a rule to determine how I should behave to remain * logically * consistent. As for the tolerance issue, I have NEVER preached tolerance for the sake of tolerance. I'm sure you could have guessed that though, as I'm the one who routinely asks why we're not allowed to kill Nazis anymore...

You are right, Jerry.

ChestRockfield comments on Oct 3, 2021:

That's a pretty nonsense way to look at things. If a child runs out into the street and the only way to avoid killing him is to swerve, crashing into an inanimate object, would you say they * chose * to crash into something? You could. If you were an idiot. But stating those facts in that manner is ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 5, 2021:

@Spinliesel If that works for you. Me personally I don't like the feeling of sand all around my face and head, but to each their own.

It's coming faster than you think

MikeInBatonRouge comments on Oct 4, 2021:

I didn't realize it was "nameless shit." Looks like saltwater taffy to me. 😉

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 4, 2021:

It's the peanut butter taffy with the chunky peanut-butter center.

It's coming faster than you think

ChestRockfield comments on Oct 4, 2021:

I actuality love that candy.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 4, 2021:

@altschmerz The only time I've liked candy corn is when someone told me to eat it mixed with peanuts.

You are right, Jerry.

EarnestEccentric comments on Oct 3, 2021:

Yeah, life is evil - Every day each of us lives something has to die to keep us alive. Get over it. 🤣

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 3, 2021:

I've made this argument in response to posts about vegsnism. Our very existence causes the suffering and death of so many other life forms. While we didn't choose to be born, and thus, shouldn't be expected to kill ourselves to prevent said suffering, we do have control over whether we produce offspring that will cause tons of future suffering. Raising a child from scratch, even if he remains vegan, will likely cause more animal suffering than I will in the remainder of my days being a childless omnivore, so I really can't take vegan parents seriously when they blather on about protecting animals.

Women's March, Champaign-Urbana, October 2

ChestRockfield comments on Oct 2, 2021:

Women don't need to march, they need to vote. Women are a MAJORITY. If they cared about their rights and freedoms more than the other bullshit they're fed, they could have anything they wanted even without relying on men like me who would vote for their rights and freedoms right alongside them every...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 3, 2021:

@KKGator Exactly. You shouldn't expect any help from people that aren't in the same boat. It would be nice, but to their core, humans are rotten piles of shit that are evolutionarily bred to destroy and consume anything that's not themselves. You would think humans and their self-awareness would be above such selfish behavior, but you'd be wrong; they're garbage.

Women's March, Champaign-Urbana, October 2

ChestRockfield comments on Oct 2, 2021:

Women don't need to march, they need to vote. Women are a MAJORITY. If they cared about their rights and freedoms more than the other bullshit they're fed, they could have anything they wanted even without relying on men like me who would vote for their rights and freedoms right alongside them every...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 3, 2021:

@KKGator I'm not saying you can force them to vote a certain way, but there are still tens of millions of women that don't vote at all. So the women that vote against you and the women that don't vote are the people that are acting against their own interests and they are the most to blame. If they won't even help themselves, why would others be expected to help them?

Women's March, Champaign-Urbana, October 2

Redheadedgammy comments on Oct 2, 2021:

I hope this makes the white males who push the anti abortion crap are taking notice of how pissed off women are! 😡

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 2, 2021:

@KKGator 1. Only 60 some odd percent of women eligible to vote actually vote. Of those that vote, a large percentage vote republican. Women's autonomy is not and has never been codified in the United States. For women to be caring about and voting for anyone or anything before protecting their rights means they've become comfortable enough with the soft protections provided by case law to take them for granted. This does not seem to be a point up for intelligent debate. 2. Most of you?! When only about 30% of eligible women vote for the party that wants to protect their rights, and most of those votes get canceled out by other women, I don't think you have any evidence to support that claim. 3. I 100% agree with you. Religion is a huge problem. Those women apparently * want * to be subjugated, and * those * are the women I'm ultimately blaming. Well, them and the 30+% that don't vote at all. 4. 100% agree again. I even said before men, especially white, want to be assholes and subjugate others. People who are heartless fucking assholes like them aren't just going to roll over. You think someone like Mitch McConnell is ever going to have single thought about how to be a decent human being or be fair? Fuck no. He's going to be a disgusting wrinkly ball sack every fucking minute for the rest of his [hopefully] short life. These things are not variables though. We * know * they're going to fight dirty and try to keep everyone else down. We need to band together to stop it. So you can either blame the scorpion for doing only what the scorpion can do and drown in the process, or get these fucking frogs to the voting booth. I choose the latter.

Women's March, Champaign-Urbana, October 2

ChestRockfield comments on Oct 2, 2021:

Women don't need to march, they need to vote. Women are a MAJORITY. If they cared about their rights and freedoms more than the other bullshit they're fed, they could have anything they wanted even without relying on men like me who would vote for their rights and freedoms right alongside them every...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 2, 2021:

@KKGator I thought we were having an adult conversation. If I'm wrong, tell me how.

Women's March, Champaign-Urbana, October 2

ChestRockfield comments on Oct 2, 2021:

Women don't need to march, they need to vote. Women are a MAJORITY. If they cared about their rights and freedoms more than the other bullshit they're fed, they could have anything they wanted even without relying on men like me who would vote for their rights and freedoms right alongside them every...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 2, 2021:

@KKGator That's a double edged sword. I would gladly take 100% of the responsibility of getting pregnant if I could have 100% of the power whether or not to abort. But that's a nonsense tangent to distract you. We didn't choose how evolution made one sex carry offspring, and we didn't choose what sex to be, so stop worrying about it. Worry about what you can do something about. There is no one that wants abortion to be 100% legal all the time, everywhere, for everyone, for any reason more than me, so you're mad at the wrong person. And I do kind of blame women because you're letting yourselves be distracted from issues of human rights and autonomy. Every single woman in this country should vote straight democratic in every single race, every single election until their rights are codified. I already do, and it's not even my rights that are being taken away. 150 years ago, if there were black people that weren't using their 3/5ths of a vote to try to get themselves a whole vote, you wouldn't blame them??

Women's March, Champaign-Urbana, October 2

Redheadedgammy comments on Oct 2, 2021:

I hope this makes the white males who push the anti abortion crap are taking notice of how pissed off women are! 😡

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 2, 2021:

@KKGator That's the problem, it's * not * getting better or Roe wouldn't have been essentially overturned in Texas. People took that freedom for granted and now they're losing it.

Women's March, Champaign-Urbana, October 2

Redheadedgammy comments on Oct 2, 2021:

I hope this makes the white males who push the anti abortion crap are taking notice of how pissed off women are! 😡

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 2, 2021:

@Redheadedgammy Except it's not * law. * That's why people, especially women, need to vote. Men (especially white men) are piles of shit that like to subjugate others. If you have the power to stop them, STOP THEM! I'll help. No one should be worrying about ANYTHING else until basic human rights and freedoms are protected, and the only party that's ever going to do that for you is the major opposition party to the Republicans, whatever it happens to be (right now the democrats).

Women's March, Champaign-Urbana, October 2

Redheadedgammy comments on Oct 2, 2021:

I hope this makes the white males who push the anti abortion crap are taking notice of how pissed off women are! 😡

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 2, 2021:

@KKGator Why would those power-hungry assholes give a fuck what women are mad about if women don't vote them out of office with that anger?

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TheMiddleWay comments on Oct 1, 2021:

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ChestRockfield replies on Oct 1, 2021:

@TheMiddleWay Don't think it matters * how * it determines you smoked weed, just that you can test positive when you're no longer high, right?

So in light of the House Judiciary Committee passing legislation to remove the prohibition of ...

TheMiddleWay comments on Oct 1, 2021:

As long as alcohol and tabacco, with all their known dangers, are legal... ...then the "danger card" cannot be against marijuana.

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 1, 2021:

I think she was also kinda taking about the "danger" that someone could be high because our test wouldn't be able to prove if they smoked days ago or before their shift. Thoughts on that?

We know our dogs have extraordinary senses…but can they sense the presence of a ghost?

creative51 comments on Sep 30, 2021:

I do not believe in ghosts. Several reasons I do not believe in them. First, I have never seen a ghost, that is a big reason. Cause, if they do exist, why haven't I seen them? Second, everything I am aware of in the natural world has a reason. Even virus have a reason they exist (there are millions ...

ChestRockfield replies on Oct 1, 2021:

@creative51 I don't need the concept of symbiosis explained to me, that's not the question. What I'm asking about is your belief that these things exist with intention or purpose. That kind of thinking is similar to religious folks' belief that the Earth was placed exactly far enough away from the sun so the humans don't freeze or burn. You understand the error in that, yes?

We know our dogs have extraordinary senses…but can they sense the presence of a ghost?

Storm1752 comments on Sep 30, 2021:

As a good agnostic, I don't know if ghosts exist, just like I don't know if 'god' exists! I'm certainly not ruling it out.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 30, 2021:

@Ryo1 Eh, if my dog started seeing things that weren't there, then it'd be time for a new dog... Cause that old motherfuckin' dog be schizophrenic.

We know our dogs have extraordinary senses…but can they sense the presence of a ghost?

EarnestEccentric comments on Sep 30, 2021:

I have no belief in any sort of non-corporeal spirits such as gods, demons, ghosts, and souls. Some people go to great lengths to try to make those ideas real, but it just doesn't work for me. I don't buy it. Even if some people do think their existence does not require my belief for them to exist, ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 30, 2021:

Or, maybe simpler, they are hearing or smelling something our shitty humans ears and noses couldn't detect if our lives depended on it...

We know our dogs have extraordinary senses…but can they sense the presence of a ghost?

creative51 comments on Sep 30, 2021:

I do not believe in ghosts. Several reasons I do not believe in them. First, I have never seen a ghost, that is a big reason. Cause, if they do exist, why haven't I seen them? Second, everything I am aware of in the natural world has a reason. Even virus have a reason they exist (there are millions ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 30, 2021:

I find all your talk of "reasons" to be very peculiar. What do you suppose is the reason you think there are reasons for things? Viruses don't exist * because * they are helpful to humans. * Much in the same way viruses that are harmful to humans don't not exist because they are harmful. * Basically, I'm curious about how you think evolution works.

One cannot be considered a moral person when he or she chooses to believe thinks that are not true, ...

Word comments on Sep 29, 2021:

What is your belief towards population control of the human animal? Make sure everyone is vaccinated and cured of all disease so people do not die off? Force birth control/abortion/limited offspring? Total non-violent passivity to population growth out reach food supplies, then people die...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 30, 2021:

You bring up a good point. I make a similar, very uncomfortable point about healthcare resources for the sickest among us. For the persons that are so severely mentally handicapped that they will spend every minute of their life in a bed, get countless surgeries to close off their esophagus so they can't aspirate their tube feeding, peg tubes, trach, shunts, etc. And the permanent removal of their mother [most often] from production to simply consumption as she sits at the beside wasting her life to care for someone who has no quality of life and who doesn't even know she's there. Inevitably, in the future, it won't be a question of 'do we keep this person alive as long as we can' it'll be a question of 'do we keep this person alive at the cost of these other lives'. But I don't think most people are ready for that conversation...

A sad performance by our already aged hero Promises, promises..

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 29, 2021:

@AnneWimsey is right, this is a nonsense post. NO politician delivers as promised, so you're creating a false dichotomy. After an election, you don't need to look at what they promised vs what they delivered, you need to look at what they delivered vs what the opposition promised/ likely would have ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 30, 2021:

@St-Sinner Yes, and that comparison is nonsense. I'm not saying Biden isn't making any mistakes, I'm saying you're comparing the wrong things. It's like making a huge deal you got a rash from a condom due to your latex intolerance when that condom prevented you from getting HIV. Basically, if knowing what we know now, you'd still make the same choice, then you're complaints are baseless and stupid. And if you * would * choose Trump if you could go back in time, then, again, you're a huge pile of shit that hates women (and you're hopelessly deluded about Trump's performance).

I’m no expert on art, but it sure seems like they got their money’s worth!?

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 29, 2021:

I argue with people all the time about the claim 'anything can be art'. Blank canvas is not art.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 29, 2021:

@Buck If * anything * is art, then * everything * is art. If everything is art, the word 'art' becomes meaningless as it becomes a superfluous synonym for the word 'everything'.

One cannot be considered a moral person when he or she chooses to believe thinks that are not true, ...

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 28, 2021:

1. You can't choose to believe things. You either believe them or you don't, but it's not really a matter of choice. I know it seems like there are a lot of examples of deliberative processes where you 'decide' to believe something, but one need only look at times when you have no choice in the ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 29, 2021:

@wordywalt They're either fooled by misinformation and actually believe it, or know they're lies and pretend to go along with it for what they believe to be a greater good (like the children that lie to their parents about believing in Santa to continue to get presents), but they can't * choose * to * actually * believe something they know isn't true. I think you're missing a very important facet of all this, and that's how powerful subjective perception, echo chambers, and confirmational bias is. That stuff can make someone actually believe shit you and I think is the craziest fuckin' thing in the world, but none of it is a choice. I think you're also missing the huge distinction between having a belief and professing a belief.

One cannot be considered a moral person when he or she chooses to believe thinks that are not true, ...

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 28, 2021:

1. You can't choose to believe things. You either believe them or you don't, but it's not really a matter of choice. I know it seems like there are a lot of examples of deliberative processes where you 'decide' to believe something, but one need only look at times when you have no choice in the ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 29, 2021:

@wordywalt That's not choosing. You're even putting conditions on it "if unwise". If it was a choice, intelligence would be irrelevant. The child doesn't * choose * to believe, he's told it's true by people he trusts and is effectively deceived. When he is told it's not true and puts the pieces together and realizes, he has no choice to continue to believe (even if he * pretends * to believe to continue to get presents).

One cannot be considered a moral person when he or she chooses to believe thinks that are not true, ...

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 28, 2021:

1. You can't choose to believe things. You either believe them or you don't, but it's not really a matter of choice. I know it seems like there are a lot of examples of deliberative processes where you 'decide' to believe something, but one need only look at times when you have no choice in the ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 28, 2021:

@wordywalt You can choose to believe in Santa?

Has anyone here read any of George Will's books or columns?

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 27, 2021:

Me. He's on Real Time frequently. Bill likes him a lot. I don't find his arguments to be very convincing.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 27, 2021:

@Flowerwall I heard you. Why would you know that? I would assume Fox News was more your speed.

Has anyone here read any of George Will's books or columns?

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 27, 2021:

Me. He's on Real Time frequently. Bill likes him a lot. I don't find his arguments to be very convincing.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 27, 2021:

@Flowerwall You wouldn't...

Time to Chill

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 23, 2021:

I'm just old and tired and don't have it in me anymore.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 24, 2021:

@MyTVC15 That's not exactly my problem. I feel like life is taking forever.

Hi Everyone.

Julie808 comments on Sep 23, 2021:

There must be a little something there if you're getting along well enough that political differences haven't come between you. That takes respect on both sides. Nice way to meet parents, posthumously, so they can't approve, disapprove or meddle in any way, haha, but hearing about his parents ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 23, 2021:

@Julie808 What I was saying was basically that hating someone because they hold liberal policies that allow people autonomy over their own bodies and desires to ensure equality among all is completely unjustified whereas hating someone for voting for a party that wants to subjugate women and minorities makes logical sense. It's as stark as the difference between going to a rally to protect free speech and going to a Klan rally. There is no way to keep cruel views to yourself when you're empowering people to legislate cruel views. Even if they don't publicly espouse said beliefs, they are fine with them and support them with their vote.

Hi Everyone.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 22, 2021:

There are just some things that supporting the Republican party makes you party to. They are part of the reason there may be a young woman somewhere in Texas who was impregnated by her rapist who won't be able to get an abortion. If you can sleep next to someone who's okay with that consequence ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 23, 2021:

@MizJ Because letting people get away with thinking the current Republican platform and playbook are just a difference of opinion instead of hateful misogyny and racism? Progress will ONLY come from demonizing their hateful ways and keeping them out of power...

Hi Everyone.

Julie808 comments on Sep 23, 2021:

There must be a little something there if you're getting along well enough that political differences haven't come between you. That takes respect on both sides. Nice way to meet parents, posthumously, so they can't approve, disapprove or meddle in any way, haha, but hearing about his parents ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 23, 2021:

Don't you think there's a difference between hating someone for being a Democrat and hating someone for being a Republican though?

Hi Everyone.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 22, 2021:

There are just some things that supporting the Republican party makes you party to. They are part of the reason there may be a young woman somewhere in Texas who was impregnated by her rapist who won't be able to get an abortion. If you can sleep next to someone who's okay with that consequence ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 23, 2021:

@MizJ If they're a conservative but voting for the more liberal candidate, then they're not voting * as * a conservative. They're essentially either breaking ranks or a swing voter or an independent or whatever you want to call them. None of that matters to the topic at hand though. No matter what they call themselves, or what anyone else calls them, they * still * voted for someone who said he was going to try to take women's reproductive rights away and succeeded in that endeavor. That's not someone I can lay my head down next to no matter how much we'd love to talk about how adorable cats are. And I'm not blaming or shaming, there are a lot of people that are able to set those things aside for family members or lovers, I just don't happen to be one of them. Wish I could, honestly, maybe I wouldn't be so lonely, but I just can't. All I'd be able to do when I looked at them was think about how little they cared for their fellow man that they'd behave that way towards them.

Hi Everyone.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 22, 2021:

There are just some things that supporting the Republican party makes you party to. They are part of the reason there may be a young woman somewhere in Texas who was impregnated by her rapist who won't be able to get an abortion. If you can sleep next to someone who's okay with that consequence ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 23, 2021:

@MizJ Conservative vs Republican is merely a semantical difference when you're taking about who you voted for because the Republican candidate is always the more conservative and the Democratic the more liberal of the two. I agree we are distracted by issues like abortion, but that's not the fault of the liberals or Democrats. They only ever talk about it because the policies of the Right * force * them to. If it were federally legal and codified (untouchable by Republicans OR conservatives) you'd never hear about it again from Democrats. As for socialism/communism, I believe the actual difference is the ownership of the means of production. Both have both political and financial implications.

Hi Everyone.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 22, 2021:

There are just some things that supporting the Republican party makes you party to. They are part of the reason there may be a young woman somewhere in Texas who was impregnated by her rapist who won't be able to get an abortion. If you can sleep next to someone who's okay with that consequence ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 23, 2021:

@sassygirl3869 So he * did * vote for the guy/party that stole a SCOTUS seat and filled 3 with pro-life judges resulting in millions of women in Texas losing their reproductive rights? And he did this to "give a [racist] businessman a shot" (because, mind you, it was not a secret he was a racist during his campaign). And you're both thinking immigration on the Southern border is a problem because of Covid even though Mexico has fewer cases and deaths per million people than the United States? Makes sense.

Hi Everyone.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 22, 2021:

There are just some things that supporting the Republican party makes you party to. They are part of the reason there may be a young woman somewhere in Texas who was impregnated by her rapist who won't be able to get an abortion. If you can sleep next to someone who's okay with that consequence ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 23, 2021:

@MizJ They may personally * claim * to be pro-choice, but what you say and what you do are very different things. The fact of the matter is the last Republican presidential candidate campaigned on the fact that he would appoint conservative, pro-life judges to the court system, won, and kept his promise, which directly resulted in a veritable complete ban on abortion in the state of Texas. Anyone who voted Republican owns a piece of that. Period. The same is true of racist policies. If you vote for a party that enacts racist laws, lie all the vote-restricting laws that specifically target people of color, you don't get to claim you don't believe in that or that you're not racist because that's not * why * you voted Republican. * Oh, I don't support all the Jews getting gassed, I just really like Hitler's financial policies. * Sorry, doesn't work like that.

Hi Everyone.

racocn8 comments on Sep 22, 2021:

You don't consider the political differences to be a red flag?

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 22, 2021:

This.

It's been almost 4 months since my fragile mother and I got our second COVID vaccinations.

itsmedammit comments on Sep 18, 2021:

I could ask the same.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 18, 2021:

Sorry, thought you were saying you were unvaccinated and still alive...

It's been almost 4 months since my fragile mother and I got our second COVID vaccinations.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 18, 2021:

Because it changes your DNA, duh. Death by DNA manipulation * has * to take a long time otherwise liberal cucks, even as dumb as they are, will be able to realize the correlation. It's like you don't even watch Fox News. So ashamed to be your friend.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 18, 2021:

@BitFlipper Really bro? My comments here couldn't possibly drip of more sarcasm.

It's been almost 4 months since my fragile mother and I got our second COVID vaccinations.

itsmedammit comments on Sep 18, 2021:

I could ask the same.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 18, 2021:

Way more unvaccinated people have died from Covid than vaccinated have died from the vaccine...

It's been almost 4 months since my fragile mother and I got our second COVID vaccinations.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 18, 2021:

Because it changes your DNA, duh. Death by DNA manipulation * has * to take a long time otherwise liberal cucks, even as dumb as they are, will be able to realize the correlation. It's like you don't even watch Fox News. So ashamed to be your friend.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 18, 2021:

@UrsiMajor Yeah, it was designed that way. It'll almost be like the vaccine didn't do anything bad to your body * at all. * Now you're starting to get it.

Texas' Abortion Law Is Not Just Oppressive, It's Hypocritical - Honolulu Civil Beat

bobwjr comments on Sep 18, 2021:

It's a attack on women

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 18, 2021:

@AnonySchmoose I see where you're coming from on this, and those are really horrible things to do to a woman, but to be honest, it offends me that anyone would/could tell a woman she couldn't have an abortion even if her only reason was that she didn't want stretch marks or that she didn't like the father. Either a blastocyst/zygote/fetus/etc. has a claim to the host's body, or it doesn't, after you decide where you stand on that, nothing else should matter.

@BD66 's trampoline meme got me thinking Yo Mama jokes, so here is a batch for anybody wanting to go...

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 18, 2021:

There's a longer story to why I have all these saved, but I figured you'd enjoy them.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 18, 2021:

Lame, you can only upload 5 pics? I put 8 on here.

We definitely knew this Donnie

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 16, 2021:

This is Barrett? Am I missing some news where she * didn't * side with the Republicans?

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 16, 2021:

@bobwjr No, she didn't. Who told you that? John Roberts is the only Republican that flipped. https://www.npr.org/2021/09/02/1033048958/supreme-court-upholds-new-texas-abortion-law-for-now

What is the plan California?

wordywalt comments on Sep 15, 2021:

The real long term solution for all of California's problems is for a large portion of its population to move elsewhere. Simply put, the changing climate means that the natural resources will not support so many people.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 15, 2021:

I think a nice chunk of liberal Californians should move to Wyoming, North Dakota, & South Dakota and flip 6 Senate seats!

Truth is more messed up than satire

Redneckliberal comments on Sep 4, 2021:

WHY THEN DO WE HAVE FOLKS ON AGNOSTIC SAYING THAT THIS SHITE IS THE NEXT BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD?....WHY IS THE FUCKING ADMIN ALLOWING THESE MORONS TO POST THIS BULLSHIT AND THEN LET THEM BLOCK YOU WHEN YOU CALL THEIR LIES OUT......THIS BULLSHIT IS KILLING PEOPLE AND TO SAY OR DO NOTHING ABOUT...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 15, 2021:

@Redneckliberal There is no admin or mods anymore.

I agree with most of these-how about you all??

racocn8 comments on Sep 14, 2021:

Being kind to those who are unkind only works as a defensive strategy. It opposes ones sense of fairness and justice.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 15, 2021:

Oh, I was thinking there was a problem with that one too, but couldn't think how to articulate it. You did a good job of it, thank you.

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ChestRockfield comments on Sep 12, 2021:

And an even higher percentage are unvaccinated. The takeaway an intelligent person would have: I should lose weight, and while that may take some time to accomplish there's something I can do right now that's even more effective than that which is tell anti-vaxxers they are dumb cunts and go get ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 13, 2021:

@abyers1970 @silverotter11 @holdenc98 @Beowulfsfriend @xenoview Pure gold. I mean, not one of you MFers had 'giving a monkey brain damage' on your wager cards, right? Be honest.

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ChestRockfield comments on Sep 12, 2021:

And an even higher percentage are unvaccinated. The takeaway an intelligent person would have: I should lose weight, and while that may take some time to accomplish there's something I can do right now that's even more effective than that which is tell anti-vaxxers they are dumb cunts and go get ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 13, 2021:

@abyers1970 Is anyone else fuckin' dying right now? His responses get funnier and funnier. Like I usually hate the fuck out of anti-vaxxers, but this guy is a riot. https://youtu.be/q_W4Gi5h9P8 I'd pay $300 for 'world-class skills' and 'trapped boobies' all day every day.

Would someone please let me know or post, send me a message, how you create a meme, please?

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 10, 2021:

I like https://imgflip.com/memegenerator

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 13, 2021:

@Shane4Agnostic Nope, just a website. Enjoy.

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kmaz comments on Sep 12, 2021:

folks, this is incoherent anti-vaccination gibberish. What I get from it is that the thread originator wishes to bring harm to others and to our discussions.... poisoning the well of discussion with unintelligible angry whatever, and then seeing how that goes. If someone wishes to explore an ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 12, 2021:

@kmaz Not sure, but it has been hypothesized and informally tested and nothing any of us have seen leads us to believe there is anyone home anymore. There was some stuff in the Senate about it too.

I identify as bigender. Most LGBTQ+ people don’t even know what that is. 😂

rainmanjr comments on Sep 12, 2021:

I've grown tired of labeling people. They are people so all have exactly the same right to life and pursuit of happiness. The labels aren't needed and actually cause division so I suggest just going after Human Rights.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 12, 2021:

@rainmanjr My reply seems to suggest I'm not at all progressive. That was not my intent. I'll be respectful of how people want to be addressed even though I think we'd be better off with no labels at all.

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kmaz comments on Sep 12, 2021:

folks, this is incoherent anti-vaccination gibberish. What I get from it is that the thread originator wishes to bring harm to others and to our discussions.... poisoning the well of discussion with unintelligible angry whatever, and then seeing how that goes. If someone wishes to explore an ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 12, 2021:

The king, my lord, is dead. No more mod or amin...

I identify as bigender. Most LGBTQ+ people don’t even know what that is. 😂

rainmanjr comments on Sep 12, 2021:

I've grown tired of labeling people. They are people so all have exactly the same right to life and pursuit of happiness. The labels aren't needed and actually cause division so I suggest just going after Human Rights.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 12, 2021:

@rainmanjr I'm with you on this one. Gender is a nonsensical man-made construct. Don't know what it's good for or why we need it; seems to only cause problems and pain.

Okay, this is probably a really unpopular opinion, but doesn't it seem like the last couple years ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 11, 2021:

The loss of four civilian aircraft valued at $385 million. The destruction of major buildings in the World Trade Center with a replacement cost of from $3 billion to $4.5 billion. Damage to a portion of the Pentagon: up to $1 billion. Cleanup costs: $1.3 billion. Property and infrastructure ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 11, 2021:

Almost a year ago, a pair of Harvard economists estimated the cost to the US at 16 TRILLION if it ended around now. It hasn't and won't. It may be worse now than almost any time during the pandemic so far. This is going to cost us over 800 times more than everything you mentioned, combined. So if money is all that counts, why again is 9/11 something we still drone on about? https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/11/what-might-covid-cost-the-u-s-experts-eye-16-trillion/#:~:text=A%20pair%20of%20Harvard%20economists,and%20contact%20tracing%20that%20would

Okay, this is probably a really unpopular opinion, but doesn't it seem like the last couple years ...

powder comments on Sep 11, 2021:

Virus is a virus. No human to blame. But we can blame humans for our response to it. US is leading the world for covid in one way, Denmark and Sweden are leading the world for covid in another. America has serious problems that won't be solved until they self reflect and stop blaming others. ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 11, 2021:

This is the first time you and I 100% agree. I would add that some people blame China, but that remains to be seen whether or not that's unfounded. But either way, you're right, the worst of it is a result of Americans being shitty to other Americans.

Would someone please let me know or post, send me a message, how you create a meme, please?

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 10, 2021:

I like https://imgflip.com/memegenerator

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 11, 2021:

@FrayedBear I've never used the app. Just type meme generator in my search bar on my phone, go to that website, make the meme with the private setting, download it, and share.

Would someone please let me know or post, send me a message, how you create a meme, please?

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 10, 2021:

I like https://imgflip.com/memegenerator

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 11, 2021:

@FrayedBear I've made tons of memes that I think are hilarious and a bunch more that are very situational, but make an impact because of how fast I can make and post them as a response. There was a woman I used to work with that got mad at me for correcting one of her claims that was based on how trees "give us all of our oxygen" by telling her that a vast majority of our oxygen actually comes from marine plants like algae. I made this super fast.

At last they never deserved to be there

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 9, 2021:

Why the fuck did it take 8 months?!

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 9, 2021:

@Cast1es He could literally say it in a matter of seconds to his chief of staff while waking to breakfast. It would be disseminated to the staff and they would turn in their letters. Trump may have been a crazy asshole that broke every norm, but the staff wouldn't make Biden fire them.

A once in a lifetime pun

phxbillcee comments on Sep 8, 2021:

Only 8 more years to use it...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 8, 2021:

@powder Not if you change it. There's nothing funny about the 9yo part, right? You could use it until 2030 if you wanted.

Saw this beauty today when picking up my son from school (near Charlotte, North Carolina).

Charles1971 comments on Sep 8, 2021:

That sign doesn't even make sense. That moron thinks that quieting Dr. Fauci will somehow magically make Covid go away?

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 8, 2021:

And that tape is a mask...

Yeah, how do you do it? I'm sure there are different ways to get to the same result.

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 8, 2021:

I don't know what new math is. I've heard the term, but don't know the process. For me, I added 2 to the 28 and subtracted it from the 47, then added 30 & 45.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 8, 2021:

@Ryo1 That seems backwards and confusing. What does 47=45 even mean? Also, why is the second number first?

Question: why are health care workers even showing anti-vaxxers compassion?

Paul4747 comments on Sep 6, 2021:

That's the nature of their work. When someone is sick or dying, you don't (I hope you don't) shake your head and say, "Well, you brought it on yourself, you know. This is all your fault." If that were the case, smokers with lung cancer, meat-eaters with colon cancer, overweight people with... ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 8, 2021:

@Paul4747 No, it's not. First, the slow nature of the healthcare problems associated with other vices allows systems to provide care to them without being overwhelmed. There's no sudden massive influx of lung cancer patients that are stressing the system to the breaking point. Second, those vices are not contagious. Third, we can debate whether or not addiction plays into the problems of obesity and smoking, but I'm pretty sure no one is addicted to willfully refusing a vaccine during a global pandemic. Finally, even if we agree that ingesting second-hand smoke is just as dangerous, it still wouldn't result in the issues detailed above. There's no sudden, exponential growth of people needing hospital beds because of second-hand smoke.

Question: why are health care workers even showing anti-vaxxers compassion?

ChestRockfield comments on Sep 6, 2021:

They don't. But most of us don't have any control over the matter. That's why we come to places like this to vent and hope they all die before they make it to the doors of the hospital.

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 8, 2021:

@Paul4747 The OP was about healthcare workers showing compassion to anti-vaxxers. The 'we' in my reply was obviously referring to them, not a random group of individuals that happen to not believe in god. As for the second part, you have it all wrong. It has nothing to do with not wanting to treat them. It has to do with shortages of everything, staff, supplies, beds, equipment, etc. * because * of them that's causing harm to all of the other people that are doing their best to * help * us. If they want to take the side of the enemy and risk being one of the seriously ill, it would be nice if they actually assumed that risk on their own instead of burdening everyone else with that risk that didn't want to take it. And no where did I say we treat them any differently once they do arrive; that's not part of who most of us (<- HEALTHCARE WORKERS) are. * That's why I used the word "hope". Nothing more than that. *

Question: why are health care workers even showing anti-vaxxers compassion?

Paul4747 comments on Sep 6, 2021:

That's the nature of their work. When someone is sick or dying, you don't (I hope you don't) shake your head and say, "Well, you brought it on yourself, you know. This is all your fault." If that were the case, smokers with lung cancer, meat-eaters with colon cancer, overweight people with... ...

ChestRockfield replies on Sep 7, 2021:

@FrayedBear I don't know what you're trying to say with that.