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I am going in to hospital today for a varicose vain in my groin.
ChestRockfield comments on Jun 30, 2021:
Burn US healthcare.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 11, 2021:
@TimeOutForMe That's if you have a job, getting stand alone coverage is practically impossible to afford.
FISHING.
bbyrd009 comments on Aug 11, 2021:
they might also have just got the impression that “real men like to fish” or whatever eh
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 11, 2021:
Never a shortage of No True Scotsman fallacies being used by idiots.
FISHING.
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 11, 2021:
You can like something you don't get to do often or even at all. I love roller-coasters and going down on women (not at the same time) but rarely if ever do either.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 11, 2021:
@Word Only in one of those little basket rides that takes you across the park real slow.
For sale at a Trump rally in Sturgis
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 11, 2021:
I mean, I think we should be allowed to jail or outright kill on sight people who wear nazi insignia. We did during the war, what's different now?
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 11, 2021:
@OldMetalHead Right? WTF? Let's get back on track and start killing Nazis again.
Actually it's a small zero instead of a degree sign but it works for me.
Petter comments on Aug 10, 2021:
⁰ It's not the "O" key when on a Google keyboard. It's the zero key.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 11, 2021:
@Petter I don't know why this is still happening or how the [letter O] options became a part of this, but I some different options than you including Ő [
FISHING.
skado comments on Aug 11, 2021:
I don’t see the problem. If they said they *go* fishing a lot, and didn’t, then that would be a conflict, but there are lots of things I *like* to do that I don’t actually do very often.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 11, 2021:
Oh, you beat me to it.
Isn't this a rather baseless, false claim?
Deb57 comments on Aug 11, 2021:
I'm an American and this is the first I've heard of Michael Savage or any opinion attributed to him. If he did say this, he's an uninformed putz spreading dangerous misinformation. He reminds me of the dolts who think mental illness can be cured by spending more time outside.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 11, 2021:
Me too. Never heard of him before now. Must only circulate in severely Republican/moron circles and can't even make it to popular platforms like Fox News (that center and left sources would cover) because they even find him to be a liability.
Actually it's a small zero instead of a degree sign but it works for me.
Petter comments on Aug 10, 2021:
⁰ It's not the "O" key when on a Google keyboard. It's the zero key.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 11, 2021:
@FrayedBear I think English US.
Actually it's a small zero instead of a degree sign but it works for me.
Petter comments on Aug 10, 2021:
⁰ It's not the "O" key when on a Google keyboard. It's the zero key.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 11, 2021:
@FrayedBear Mine is only ⁰ and ⁿ.
Actually it's a small zero instead of a degree sign but it works for me.
Petter comments on Aug 10, 2021:
⁰ It's not the "O" key when on a Google keyboard. It's the zero key.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 10, 2021:
The meme does say "zero" key.
How?
K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 9, 2021:
Happiness is internal, it's not dependent on others or the world. It's inside you and what you choose to feel. My son was depressed and I told him at the end of everyday before falling asleep think of ONE thing that made you happy or made you smile during the day. Also recommend meditation it seems ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 10, 2021:
@Paul4747 Like I said, it's not really worth trying to convince people. It clicked for me against "my will" that free will didn't exist which was just further proof. I adamantly did not want to believe it, thought it was total bullshit, yet the arguments were so convincing there was nothing I could do but recognize them as true. If you honestly looked at the evidence, there's a chance you would see it too, but it doesn't really matter in the end. Like I said, there is a sizeable proportion of agnostic users that have realized this. People who also realized the notion of god is nonsensical because there is just no evidence for it. The same is true for free will if you can get past your * feeling * of agency for a few minutes to look at the evidence objectively. You may not respect me, so me telling you this probably won't do any good. It took someone whose opinion I highly value giving me a book by an author I admire for me to read enough for it to click. Know, though, that people who have recognized this fact look at people making the arguments you're making the way we look at Christians, you both just know and feel you're right about it regardless of the fact that you have no proof you're right. I STILL FEEL like I have free will, even though I know I don't, so feeling like you have free will is not an argument for its existence the way Christians FEEL God's presence doesn't mean he exists.
How?
K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 9, 2021:
Happiness is internal, it's not dependent on others or the world. It's inside you and what you choose to feel. My son was depressed and I told him at the end of everyday before falling asleep think of ONE thing that made you happy or made you smile during the day. Also recommend meditation it seems ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 10, 2021:
@K9Kohle789 Where's the choice in that either? You can't choose to be told that info. You can't choose whether or not you believe it. You can't choose whether or not you'll remember to do it. You can choose whether or not you'll be able to have something "good" enough happen each day that you can recall. And you can't choose whether or not that actually makes a difference. Furthermore, "eventually you will be happy" sounds more like "eventually you will get over the bad thing, but the reason we say eventually is because you have no choice in when that will happen" or "time, not choice, heals all wounds, and you don't control time". Even the end of your reply you say that you get very sad. If you can choose how you feel, why are you still getting very sad?
How?
K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 9, 2021:
Happiness is internal, it's not dependent on others or the world. It's inside you and what you choose to feel. My son was depressed and I told him at the end of everyday before falling asleep think of ONE thing that made you happy or made you smile during the day. Also recommend meditation it seems ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 10, 2021:
@Paul4747 I mean, there are plenty of resources you can look at to discover for yourself that free will is an illusion. Probably 40% of the members on this site have realized it, and I feel that should be enough to make you think there might be something to it. I'm kind of over trying to convince people, because generally it makes them hate you, so I just state it as a matter of fact and let people do whatever they want with the info. I recommend watching a Sam Harris Free Will video on YouTube to get your feet wet since you seem to be at least a little interested. Do you believe you * always * have freedom of choice? To be clear, however, recognizing free will is an illusion is not at all about "getting off the hook". I still * feel * like I have agency, and I still feel like shit when I do stuff I believe is wrong, regardless of the fact that what I think is right and wrong and whether or not I do those things is out of my control.
How?
K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 9, 2021:
Happiness is internal, it's not dependent on others or the world. It's inside you and what you choose to feel. My son was depressed and I told him at the end of everyday before falling asleep think of ONE thing that made you happy or made you smile during the day. Also recommend meditation it seems ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 9, 2021:
@bbyrd009 Why would you think you could choose how to feel some of the time but not all of the time? Wouldn't it be much more likely that you couldn't ever choose how you feel, but that sometimes you like the way you feel about things which means that would have been the feeling you chose so it * seems * like you did? There's just no logical mechanism whereby one could sometimes choose how they feel and other times be completely incapable. Edit: (forgot to respond to the other part of your comment) "Unconscious choice" isn't choice anymore "dream cheating" is adultery. And some being happy with their divorce while others are sad is more an endorsement of being unable to choose how you feel than being able to. I mean, often times one person wants out while the other wants to stay married, so naturally some are sad while others are happy, so those emotions aren't chosen, they're the natural reaction to a good or bad situation. If * everyone * was happy, * that * would be an indication people could choose...
How?
K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 9, 2021:
Happiness is internal, it's not dependent on others or the world. It's inside you and what you choose to feel. My son was depressed and I told him at the end of everyday before falling asleep think of ONE thing that made you happy or made you smile during the day. Also recommend meditation it seems ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 9, 2021:
@K9Kohle789 I don't believe in free will. Well, rather, I know free will doesn't exist. But if it did, why wouldn't you just always choose to be happy about anything that happened to you? As an aside, bees flying near me causes me terror.
How?
TheMiddleWay comments on Aug 9, 2021:
Focus on the small instead of dwelling on the large. The world may be falling apart around me but I will still find happiness in playing an instrument, reading a book, or the company of a friend.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 9, 2021:
What instrument(s) do you play?
How?
nicknotes comments on Aug 9, 2021:
Stop watching the news....the future looks grim. Concentrate on your family relationships.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 9, 2021:
For all of you that have them! To the rest of you, I got nothin'.
How?
bbyrd009 comments on Aug 9, 2021:
“If you cant be happy with nothing, you wont be happy with anything” which might sound trite, but we have very little experience with having nothing, which might engender more appreciation for what we do have, even to appreciating not being lying, exploitive, and cruel, which let’s admit you ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 9, 2021:
@bbyrd009 A baby whose needs have * all * been met. Doesn't that change things a lot?
How?
barjoe comments on Aug 9, 2021:
You just have to live within your own little world, otherwise you'll go nuts. Life is short.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 9, 2021:
Or way too fuckin' long. 😝
How?
K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 9, 2021:
Happiness is internal, it's not dependent on others or the world. It's inside you and what you choose to feel. My son was depressed and I told him at the end of everyday before falling asleep think of ONE thing that made you happy or made you smile during the day. Also recommend meditation it seems ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 9, 2021:
One cannot choose how to feel. A woman at work told me I could, and I tried to explain why she was wrong. She refused to admit it, and kept on with her 'I could just choose to feel differently about the issue I was having' nonsense. A few months later when her husband left her, and she was devastated, it took every ounce of restraint in my body to avoid telling her she should just choose to be happy about it.
This is fascinating.
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 8, 2021:
I just watched My Octopus Teacher, and was wondering if you gave him something like a jar or can if he'd carry it around so he could quickly hide inside of it if sharks showed up.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 9, 2021:
@Budgie I'm unsure if the dying process is long or painful. Maybe he couldn't stay down that long without a tank. Maybe getting eaten would reduce total overall suffering. Maybe if I knew anything about octopuses other than 'those things are cool AF' I'd have a better idea of how I'd react. So honestly, I don't know how I'd actually react if I were knowledgeable and skilled enough to be in that situation, but those were my guesses.
This is fascinating.
Aaron70 comments on Aug 8, 2021:
Pretty impressive, but can it balance a pineapple on its head, I think not!?!! 😎
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 8, 2021:
@Buck Nothing says sober like replying to yourself a bunch of times. 😝
This is fascinating.
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 8, 2021:
I just watched My Octopus Teacher, and was wondering if you gave him something like a jar or can if he'd carry it around so he could quickly hide inside of it if sharks showed up.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 8, 2021:
@Budgie Eh, I go back and forth, love for a pseudo-pet vs documentarian integrity. If I were there though, I probably would have protected her when the shark bit off her arm, but not when I knew she was dying. But for sure would have given her a jar or something to see if she'd use it. Also, how f-ing bad do you want to play with baby octopuses?! If you haven't YouTubed Mimic Octopus, do that right now. Coolest fucking thing ever.
Has anyone seen this?
bobwjr comments on Aug 7, 2021:
With the natural predators gone and native Americans it's necessary, saw pictures of federal preserves where hunting was banned, trees stripped of bark and emaciated dead deer horrible way to slowly die
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 8, 2021:
@TimeOutForMe I agree, I don't want to eat animals that died of old age the same way I don't want to eat vegetables that have died and fallen to the ground. That's just not how most of life has evolved (obviously there are some organisms that only eat dead stuff). Killing other shit and turning its building blocks of life into more of yourself is how we got to where we are. Not sure what humans obsession with fighting against natural selecting and evolution is all about.
If you have a "Twitter" account and you like to open and use your own garlic.
Lilac-JadeCanada comments on Aug 6, 2021:
Great idea, but garlic hates me, so have to avoid it.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 8, 2021:
@Lilac-JadeCanada Oh, I get those symptoms with or without alcohol.
If you have a "Twitter" account and you like to open and use your own garlic.
Lilac-JadeCanada comments on Aug 6, 2021:
Great idea, but garlic hates me, so have to avoid it.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 8, 2021:
@Lilac-JadeCanada That's one of the symptoms. So, I don't get alcohol hangovers. I can drink an entire liter of liquor and wake up feeling great. Maybe a decade or so ago I woke up feeling like absolute he'll after a night of drinking and thought, "Well, I had a good run, but I guess I'm at the age now where I'm going to start getting hangovers." But the next couple times I drank, no symptoms just my norm. It took a long time to realize the connection, but it turned out I only felt bad when I consumed a lot of garlic and wondered if garlic hangovers was a thing. Sure enough, it is...
If you have a "Twitter" account and you like to open and use your own garlic.
Lilac-JadeCanada comments on Aug 6, 2021:
Great idea, but garlic hates me, so have to avoid it.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 7, 2021:
Do you get garlic hangovers too??
Hi Everyone! I want to give everyone heads up on a phone scam I was subjected to and trying to ...
HippieChick58 comments on Aug 7, 2021:
I work for a credit union, and I am trained on credit cards. EVERY day, at least once, if not 5 times, I am getting a call from a member who has been scammed. If you haven't called the card issuer, please do. They have protocols for investigating scams and disputes. Some of the calls just break my ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 7, 2021:
Cash and checks are even worse. Credit is your best, safest payment method.
Lookin' at you Dexter and GoT
MerlinZap comments on Aug 7, 2021:
I wouldn't know...per example look at the last season of lost.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 7, 2021:
Oh, you beat me to it.
Flordida leads the U.
BlackDove comments on Aug 7, 2021:
I never found Florida to be appealing in any way, shape, or form.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 7, 2021:
You don't like millions of redneck morons who fuck up elections and exacerbate pandemics? I'm confused...
Has anyone seen this?
bobwjr comments on Aug 7, 2021:
With the natural predators gone and native Americans it's necessary, saw pictures of federal preserves where hunting was banned, trees stripped of bark and emaciated dead deer horrible way to slowly die
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 7, 2021:
I wonder how a vegan would respond to that. * Naturally occurring suffering would be an acceptable evil while the population numbers adjust to equilibrium? * That's the best argument I can come up with for them, but it still means they have have to be okay with a lot of animal suffering. Of course, these people do not make logical arguments in the first place, so I don't know why I would hold them to that standard in a hypothetical.
What are everyone’s thoughts on the ACA?
michaelbp comments on Feb 4, 2020:
It would be helpful if you explain what ACA is. (Christian something?) I saw the heading and was prepared to give my views about the Affordable Care Act.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 7, 2021:
I'm right there with you, as are several others who posted about Obamacare.
What are everyone’s thoughts on the ACA?
DenoPenno comments on Feb 2, 2020:
Recently the ACA had a big shakeup and several people are not there any longer. Jen and Traci among them and I liked both of them. I watch the Atheist Experience every Sunday. Some of this shakeup had to do with the LGBTQ people and where this show was going. I can accept that many of them do not ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 7, 2021:
@Omnedon Strict elimination of all animal products and byproducts from your diet runs counter to the goal of reducing animal suffering. I tried to debate cosmic skeptic on this point in the comments of the video where he asked someone to prove him wrong and he was too much of a gigantic pussy to debate me. He had a few fanboys attempt, but I dismantled their arguments and exposed them for the illogical pawns they are.
Mans best friend at the mercy of mankind's worst enemy?
Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 4, 2021:
So doing the same to a pig is like what better? Pigs are as smart and loving as dogs. Honestly I wouldn't play this hand unless I was a vegan or at least a vegetarian if I were you. Don't get me wrong, I'm neither vegan or vegetarian and I've ate a lot of animals, but honestly while I still eat ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 6, 2021:
@TimeOutForMe Agreed. I hate how people are legally allowed to smash the window of your car if your dog is inside, but you're allowed to torture a chicken, cow, or pig every day of its life until you brutally kill it and eat it without anyone batting an eye. He * does * realize he lives in a country that has produced an average of over 100 MILLION pounds of VEAL over the past 13 years, right?
I posted this on the sexy pictures group and it got deleted, is it because it's a naked man not a ...
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 1, 2021:
I think it's because it shows penis. From what I gathered about the other pictures posted, they're more allowed to show vagina without them being reported and deleted.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 5, 2021:
@MichelleGar1 Why, is that big?? 🤔
I posted this on the sexy pictures group and it got deleted, is it because it's a naked man not a ...
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 1, 2021:
I think it's because it shows penis. From what I gathered about the other pictures posted, they're more allowed to show vagina without them being reported and deleted.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 5, 2021:
@MichelleGar1 I think the rules are no tips and no lips. (I couldn't think of a funny way to say no peen or labia.) If you posted rock hard shaft, it makes sense it was deleted. Try posting a fully nude guy without glaring cock and see...
"Why do guys fixate on penis size?
ChestRockfield comments on Jul 21, 2021:
Women talk about penis size SO MUCH. I'm a nurse that works with almost all women. They have become so comfortable around me that they talk the way they talk when guys aren't around even when I'm around. Just yesterday one of them said, "I ain't fuckin' with no small dicked n*****."
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 5, 2021:
@Marcie1974 My tongue skills are on point, but it has nothing to do with my junk. People get good at what they like. That's probably more related than anything else.
Mans best friend at the mercy of mankind's worst enemy?
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 4, 2021:
India says the same shit about us...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 5, 2021:
@TimeOutForMe Oh, I was referring to the animals that die from being displaced from their habitat, the animals that die from harvesting machines, the animals that die from traffic due to a combination of displacement and transportation of the harvest, etc. And the extreme veganism is idiotic and counterproductive. To not eat animal products simply because they're animal products is not the best path to the goal of reducing animal suffering/death. If you could source calories from waste streams (freeganism) instead of eating "new" vegetables, it shouldn't matter if those calories are an animal product or not as it would cause less suffering than the new vegetables.
Mans best friend at the mercy of mankind's worst enemy?
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 4, 2021:
India says the same shit about us...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 5, 2021:
@TimeOutForMe There's no shortage of bad reasoning all around the globe, but that includes the US and vegans and vegetarians as well. So the fact that they have inconsistent reasons for what they do in no way mitigates the fact that they can say the same thing to us that we say to China. We're total fucking hypocrites anyway. We treat dogs horribly here despite the fact we don't eat them. We race them, breed them, gas them when we can't adopt them out, etc; we have zero moral high ground when it comes to dogs, and it gets worse when you look at all animals. We torture the fuck out of so many animals here it's unbelievable. The fact that an American would talk about another country's mistreatment of animals is laughable.
Mans best friend at the mercy of mankind's worst enemy?
Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 4, 2021:
So doing the same to a pig is like what better? Pigs are as smart and loving as dogs. Honestly I wouldn't play this hand unless I was a vegan or at least a vegetarian if I were you. Don't get me wrong, I'm neither vegan or vegetarian and I've ate a lot of animals, but honestly while I still eat ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 4, 2021:
Yup. This. Plus, unless the vegans are growing their own vegetables, their purchase of big Ag veggies results in a lot of animal suffering and death. The most impactful thing you can possibly do to reduce future suffering of animals is not have children. The same is true for protecting the environment.
Mans best friend at the mercy of mankind's worst enemy?
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 4, 2021:
India says the same shit about us...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 4, 2021:
@Austin-Cambridge I assume you're trying to be funny?
This is the 1 Best Selling book of all books on Amazon.
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 4, 2021:
Apparently the Amazon book list is another untrustworthy echo chamber. When I looked up best sellers, the book wasn't even in the top 20. https://www.amazon.com/charts/2021-08-01/mostsold/nonfiction?ref=chrt_bk_dx_intra_nf_sd Once again, you believe the nonsense that you want to see and they show ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 4, 2021:
@BDair If I follow your link it showed it as number one. If I open my app and look myself, it doesn't even make the list of the top 20. You're being fooled by their algorithm because they know you're a sucker for conspiracy theories.
16 shot, but only one killed.
ChestRockfield comments on Jul 30, 2021:
Wait, this is an argument for pro gun rights?!
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 3, 2021:
@Captain_Feelgood So it's a joke? Then I get it. But if it's an argument against gun control it makes no sense.
Obey. Wear three masks and stay home.
BitFlipper comments on Aug 3, 2021:
Is this supposed to be a joke? It's not funny. It frightens me to think there are Atheists who are also believers of fantasy.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 3, 2021:
The belief that atheists were higher-level thinkers was dispelled for me long ago.
Obey. Wear three masks and stay home.
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 2, 2021:
Don't forget: Not care what any anti-vaxxer thinks because it is all those dumb motherfuckers that are the ones dying now!!
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 2, 2021:
@BDair Yet. 🤞
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 2, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay I disagree that you need to have definitions for words that are so vague they no longer hold meaning in order to "have a broad worldview". This is not the only time there has been a near breakdown in communication because people simply couldn't understand how you use words they [thought they] knew the definition of. But even if I'm wrong, I'd take the ability to convey my thoughts to others through a shared language with agreed upon definitions over having some super broad worldview. (Writing that sentence actually reminded me of how KWAPELL7 talks and thinks of himself. I honestly don't mean that to be insulting. You guys couldn't be further apart in my mind on being worthwhile to talk to. It just makes me think that might be how he thinks of himself when 'no one can understand his godly genius'.) That aside, I don't know where this 'must be equal' stuff comes into play here. I wasn't aware I was comparing anything. But I, too, am glad we got that all sorted.
I posted this on the sexy pictures group and it got deleted, is it because it's a naked man not a ...
Cast1es comments on Aug 1, 2021:
Shows too much . Will also be deleted here .
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 2, 2021:
@UrsiMajor Okay, I don't know how much I did here. Feels like you * wanted * to post up some bajingo. Either way, I'll take the credit, and I fully support you Googling vaginas and carefully selecting more for our viewing pleasure as many times as it takes for you to prove your point. 😝
I posted this on the sexy pictures group and it got deleted, is it because it's a naked man not a ...
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 1, 2021:
I think it's because it shows penis. From what I gathered about the other pictures posted, they're more allowed to show vagina without them being reported and deleted.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 2, 2021:
@UrsiMajor While very sexy, I don't think * those * lips will get deleted, but if the other ones you post get deleted before I see them, be sure to DM them to me. 😘
I posted this on the sexy pictures group and it got deleted, is it because it's a naked man not a ...
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 1, 2021:
I think it's because it shows penis. From what I gathered about the other pictures posted, they're more allowed to show vagina without them being reported and deleted.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 2, 2021:
@UrsiMajor Dare I say I'd love to see your labia? Er, I mean, the labia you would post for experimentation purposes.
I posted this on the sexy pictures group and it got deleted, is it because it's a naked man not a ...
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 1, 2021:
I think it's because it shows penis. From what I gathered about the other pictures posted, they're more allowed to show vagina without them being reported and deleted.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 2, 2021:
@UrsiMajor Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were taking about guy pictures in their group. I thought you were taking about the ones showing labia.
I posted this on the sexy pictures group and it got deleted, is it because it's a naked man not a ...
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 1, 2021:
I think it's because it shows penis. From what I gathered about the other pictures posted, they're more allowed to show vagina without them being reported and deleted.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 2, 2021:
@UrsiMajor Which is precisely why I assume it's the admin deleting them, why would the mods delete the pictures they want to see?
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 2, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay So we weren't speaking the same language from the start... I was talking about whether they are fundamentally or actually compatible while you were talking about whether they can be practiced concurrently (which is another way to say, 'can be seen as' compatible). If I understood that's what you were talking about, I wouldn't have even bothered with a reply because people practice completely contradictory things all the time. That's not up for debate, and it's not new information. Why would the OP even ask that question (to be fair, he didn't)? Your views on what constitutes compatibility is also completely at odds with every notion I've ever had on the concept. To claim that even momentary lack of conflict = no universal incompatibility = compatible might be the biggest stretch for the definition of a word I've ever seen. Using that definition, the word seems meaningless. If one person somehow lived through a lethal injection, that means that the lethal injection cocktail is not incompatible with life. * Or any other ridiculous example we'd like to use here. * If you can call any two things compatible if for even a moment they weren't actively in conflict, then what would it even tell you if someone described two things as compatible? If one person took Imdur and Viagra together one time without a major complication, my doctor should feel good about describing those drugs to me as compatible? I'm sorry. I like my words to mean something. 'Compatible' and * 'almost * completely incompatible' shouldn't have the same definition.
I posted this on the sexy pictures group and it got deleted, is it because it's a naked man not a ...
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 1, 2021:
I think it's because it shows penis. From what I gathered about the other pictures posted, they're more allowed to show vagina without them being reported and deleted.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 2, 2021:
@UrsiMajor No idea. I would assume an admin though.
I posted this on the sexy pictures group and it got deleted, is it because it's a naked man not a ...
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 1, 2021:
I think it's because it shows penis. From what I gathered about the other pictures posted, they're more allowed to show vagina without them being reported and deleted.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 2, 2021:
@MichelleGar1 Did you see labia though? Mind you, I'm only going based off information I gleaned from prior discussions and posts, not from any written policy I've seen. Basically, I'm playing devil's advocate. That said, I agree with the sentiment here in that I'd much rather see dicks in my newsfeed than covid misinformation.
I just blocked Saint-Sinner after he posted a photograph of three little boys with one holding the ...
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 1, 2021:
Must have been deleted...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 1, 2021:
@Willow_Wisp Was it a joke or something?
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 1, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay "So as long as there is no conflict, such as a doctor resorting to prayer when all medical options are exhausted, then religion and science can in fact work side by side, taking turns, be harmonious... i.e., be compatible." This seems to suggest that if there is at least a single moment where there is not active conflict between two things than those two things are compatible.
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
KKGator comments on Jul 27, 2021:
Hardly. Science is always questioning, religion rejects questioning. Science is constantly testing and updating what is "known". Religion is rooted in never questioning what is "known", and desperately trying to use science to validate their myths. There is NO compatibility.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 1, 2021:
@KKGator I was just being an ass pointing out the the ridiculous parameters under which some choose to employ the block feature.
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 1, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay Because sometimes maybe you could find a compromise for a small thing here or there, but that still doesn't mean they're compatible. Stu and I could compromise on where to go on vacation, but we were still incompatible because the kids issue was unresolvable. If you look back at my last comment, I already explained why it doesn't matter if * sometimes * you can compromise or if you ever even know an irreconcilable difference even exists. And you're twisting my examples about the drugs. I never said anything about the drugs being incompatible with other drugs, just each other. This is starting to go off the rails. Please reread what I wrote and answer what I actually said. As for the last part, that is different from what the OP asked. He asked if science and religion were compatible, not if people could * see * them as compatible. That's as big of a difference as the Earth being flat and people * believing * the Earth is flat. If you want to claim you * see * them as compatible regardless of whether or not they actually are, I would obviously agree to that. But I would not agree they are * sometimes * compatible simply because some people don't recognize that they are not. (Again, that would be like saying the Earth is * sometimes * flat because there are some people who believe it's flat.)
I posted this on the sexy pictures group and it got deleted, is it because it's a naked man not a ...
Cast1es comments on Aug 1, 2021:
Shows too much . Will also be deleted here .
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 1, 2021:
@UrsiMajor There must be some policy against full nudity...
I posted this on the sexy pictures group and it got deleted, is it because it's a naked man not a ...
ChestRockfield comments on Aug 1, 2021:
I think it's because it shows penis. From what I gathered about the other pictures posted, they're more allowed to show vagina without them being reported and deleted.
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 1, 2021:
@MichelleGar1 I mean, not really. Pictures that show vagina are deleted too, which is why the people who post porn know that they need to crop their pictures and post links to the originals (or use MS Paint to draw on bikini bottoms). If there is any double standard, it's saying women should be allowed to walk around topless if men get to walk around topless (not saying you say that) and then turning around and saying showing boobs is equivalent to showing penis.
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 1, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay Not quite. I don't really believe in "sometimes compatible". Seems like "sorta pregnant" to me. Either they are compatible, or they are not, and just because one hasn't personally experienced why they are incompatible, doesn't really change that they are. While my ex and I were dating, I didn't personally experience the incompatibility, because we were always not parents the same way we started off being not parents and the way I wanted it to stay forever. But the strife of continuing to not have a child was an incompatibility that she was experiencing and it resulted in us no longer being a couple. You don't have to experience the incompatibility or even recognize that such an incompatibility even exists for it to be real. A woman taking Imdur might not experience or ever even know it has a potentially deadly drug interaction/incompatibility with Viagra, does that mean the drugs are compatible? If a man with ED who is on Imdur wants to let drugs "take turns" and he stops talking his Imdur for a week before and after a weekend where he wants to use some Viagra to impress the ladies, does that mean the drugs are compatible?
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 1, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay I guess I took that to mean something else. You were saying it doesn't * always * cause conflict and sometimes * never * does in certain people. I was answering in regards to the actual conflict arising, as that may not come up for some people. But my overall point is that if/when it does come up, it will be irreconcilable.
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Aug 1, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay I admitted I was having trouble getting it down, but I think some of those contradictory phrases are used in different contexts. Regardless, what I'm trying to get across is that at some point every religious person could run into an irreconcilable difference between their religious side and their science side. If/when that occurs there isn't a way to compromise and one side will win. All of the other time when they're not in conflict doesn't mean they're * sometimes * compatible or compatible * in some people, * it means they just haven't yet or are not currently showing they are incompatible. My ex wanted children, I did not. During all the time we weren't discussing the problem, we got along great, but that didn't change the fact that we were fundamentally incompatible. There was no way to compromise on that front. We weren't * sometimes * compatible, we were ignoring the fact that we were incompatible. That's what science and religion are. Any time they seem compatible is just them pretending that they aren't fundamentally incompatible.
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 31, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay Oh, no I'm not saying that. But saying they are compatible because there are times the conflict is not readily apparent is kind of like saying a puppet is free because most of the time the strings don't interfere with what he wants to do, * even though at any time, for as long as they want, the puppet master can bend the puppet to his will, against the puppet's desires. * Or that orange juice and toothpaste are compatible because most of the day you're not drinking it immediately after brushing your teeth. 😜 The examples you gave seemed to suggest that only * some * religious people have conflict suggesting the two are compatible for most people who aren't crazy. In actuality, * all * religious people could find conflict with their science side * some * of the time. * This * is what tells me they aren't compatible. Another way to look at it is if/when conflict arises, will there be a winner and loser, or can there be compromise? So for your example about the couple, if they disagree on what color to paint a room or where to eat, they can compromise and let the other person pick the color of a different room or get to pick their color the next time or maybe find a second or third choice they would both be happy with, or they get to pick the restaurant on the next date night, or concede some other unrelated disagreement. But for most disagreements between religion and science, you don't get to compromise in any way. There's no taking turns or meeting in the middle. You can't use blood draws and antibiotics on one patient and prayer on the next. If/when there is irreconcilable conflict, most scientists and medical professionals will always allow science to win (provided they want to continue to be a medical professional.) I think I might be doing a poor job of getting what's so clear in my head down on paper. Is anyone else following this thread that can chime in and maybe clarify what I'm getting at?
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 31, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay There are plenty of things that take turns that aren't working together. Pretty much every turn based game or competition involves parties at odds. Furthermore, when the turns are pretty much at the discretion of one of the parties (in this case one's 'sciencey' side that must use its trump card any time important stuff needs done as detailed earlier) it's not really as much a matter of cooperation as it is concession or desire to try to maintain an active 'religiousy' side insofar as it doesn't fuck anything up for them. But that side will lose ground any time the science side needs to take over. * That's * why I described it as a god of the gaps situation. At any time, one's science side can dictate, and god retreats. Conscientious objection does not get you out of all things that your religion might deem objectionable. If your religion bars you from providing a certain type of care, or care to a certain type of person, which happens to be protected under US law, you do not have the option to refuse that care. At that point, your religious side and science side are in conflict, and you must decide which side you will let win. If you care about your job, income, the ability to buy food and live in a home (unless you're already rich), science will win, you will do what is required of you, and your religious beliefs will have lost. You are also ignoring emergency and time-sensitive situations where referrals are not possible. I'm honestly confused how you don't see * at least some * conflict here.
OMG! I think I may have accidentally overdosed on Homeopathic medicine!
Charlene comments on Jul 30, 2021:
Um, Impossible..they're homeopathic..and wicked pissah for your body, minds and spirit.. quid pro qua .. you can't o.d with them..right?
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 30, 2021:
I know you're joking, but you can 100% overdose on many OTC items.
Biden offers $100 to anyone who gets the COVID vaccine. [cnbc.com] Updated with new link
BDair comments on Jul 29, 2021:
Will he also pay their medical bills for the adverse reactions? Many people were forced to go to Go Fund Me. https://humanevents.com/2021/06/28/people-injured-by-vaccine-turn-to-gofundme-for-support/
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 30, 2021:
@BDair You said, "inexpensive and universally proven alternative prevention". The shit you described is not preventive. The vaccines are amazingly effective. They have near eliminated death or the need for hospitalization for the vaccinated while allowing them carry and spread it to dumb motherfuckers that won't vaccinate. I don't know that I could be happier about how it turned out or could even design a better scenario if I tried. The only things that are regrettable is that we don't vaccinated children yet, and that we eliminated mask mandates before we could.
From what little I've read, the Delta variant would seem in a notable percentage of cases to break ...
ChestRockfield comments on Jul 30, 2021:
I work in aerosolizing bronchoscopy procedures with covid+ patients. I thought FOR SURE I wasgoing to get covid. But I was safe, followed all the guidelines, and wore a mask at all times I was near other people and I never caught it. If you're safe, you may not get the variants either. Leave the ...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 30, 2021:
@UrsiMajor Staff nurse, BSN, RN, CRN
From what little I've read, the Delta variant would seem in a notable percentage of cases to break ...
racocn8 comments on Jul 30, 2021:
-Yes, production of boosters should be based on the most recent dominant variant. -Actually, dosage remains a critical factor. You may well get exposed to delta but not get Covid. Whatever infection does develop will be much less. Essentially no vaccinated people need intubation, and very few ...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 30, 2021:
The fact that we can catch and spread Covid to all the anti-vaxxers with almost no risk of serious harm to ourselves is fantastic. It's like we've all be given unlimited nomination forms for The Darwin Awards to hand out to all the assholes of the world.
From what little I've read, the Delta variant would seem in a notable percentage of cases to break ...
ChestRockfield comments on Jul 30, 2021:
I work in aerosolizing bronchoscopy procedures with covid+ patients. I thought FOR SURE I wasgoing to get covid. But I was safe, followed all the guidelines, and wore a mask at all times I was near other people and I never caught it. If you're safe, you may not get the variants either. Leave the ...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 30, 2021:
@UrsiMajor We use N-95s intraprocedurally, but prep/ recovery and thoracentesis procedures we use regular masks. It's possible I hate them more than you because I've been putting myself at risk helping fight the covid battle since the beginning, but it's also totally possible that I'd hate all those dumb motherfuckers and want them to all die of covid just as much if I were some analyst working from home.
Biden offers $100 to anyone who gets the COVID vaccine. [cnbc.com] Updated with new link
BDair comments on Jul 29, 2021:
Will he also pay their medical bills for the adverse reactions? Many people were forced to go to Go Fund Me. https://humanevents.com/2021/06/28/people-injured-by-vaccine-turn-to-gofundme-for-support/
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 30, 2021:
@BDair Universally proven alternatives? Like what? The pandemic was raging like crazy before the vaccine and then anti-vaxxing dumb motherfuckers allowed the variants to get a good foothold and start spiking the numbers again. If there are alternatives that are so effective, why are so many anti-vaxxers going to the hospital and dying off like the dumb, Darwin-award-winning assholes they are?
Biden offers $100 to anyone who gets the COVID vaccine. [cnbc.com] Updated with new link
BDair comments on Jul 29, 2021:
Will he also pay their medical bills for the adverse reactions? Many people were forced to go to Go Fund Me. https://humanevents.com/2021/06/28/people-injured-by-vaccine-turn-to-gofundme-for-support/
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 30, 2021:
You're such a fuckin idiot. For every one of those you find you could find thousands of lives ruined from devastating cases of covid. You're the asshole that argues against seat belts because of the one in a million chance it traps you in your car.
Biden offers $100 to anyone who gets the COVID vaccine. [cnbc.com] Updated with new link
Buddha comments on Jul 30, 2021:
Is that retroactive??? Lol
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 30, 2021:
Fuckin better be.
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 29, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay You may argue it's harmonious, but I still don't see it as working * together. * They're taking [potentially inequitable] turns, working separately, competing for the subject's time, potentially on opposing goals (say a doctor that prescribes the birth control vs. their religion that sees that as a sin). How can that possibly be viewed as compatible?
Ready or not.
BDair comments on Jul 29, 2021:
In the control arm of the Pfizer trials, about 20,000 people, less than 1% tested positive for Covid. So the vaccine can not be more than 1% effective.
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 29, 2021:
@BDair Did you even read what you posted? Risk reduction and effectiveness are not the same thing. God, you really are an idiot.
The vaccines do not prevent 'cases'. [reuters.com]
ChestRockfield comments on Jul 27, 2021:
That's all great news. Who do you think you're scaring here? You're telling me the people who get the vaccine make up only 3% of hospitalizations and deaths but can still catch, carry, and spread it like a motherfucker to help kill off all the dumb fuckin' anti-vaxxers? BEST. NEWS. EVER.
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 29, 2021:
@BDair You just want to pretend it's not true, but we're seeing these numbers everywhere. Dumb fuckin' anti-vaxxers like you and your friends are dying in record proportions and I fuckin' LOVE IT. https://www.fox19.com/2021/07/28/unvaccinated-ohioans-represent-995-percent-ohios-2021-covid-19-deaths/
Ready or not.
BDair comments on Jul 29, 2021:
In the control arm of the Pfizer trials, about 20,000 people, less than 1% tested positive for Covid. So the vaccine can not be more than 1% effective.
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 29, 2021:
That's not how percentages work.
Ready or not.
BDair comments on Jul 29, 2021:
In the control arm of the Pfizer trials, about 20,000 people, less than 1% tested positive for Covid. So the vaccine can not be more than 1% effective.
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 29, 2021:
@UrsiMajor My hope is that no one in the control group can tell us how it turned out.
The vaccines do not prevent 'cases'. [reuters.com]
ChestRockfield comments on Jul 27, 2021:
That's all great news. Who do you think you're scaring here? You're telling me the people who get the vaccine make up only 3% of hospitalizations and deaths but can still catch, carry, and spread it like a motherfucker to help kill off all the dumb fuckin' anti-vaxxers? BEST. NEWS. EVER.
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 29, 2021:
@BDair There are plenty of articles stating basically the same thing. Here is the first one that came up in my search results. It's from an NPR interview. https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/1017012853/97-of-people-entering-hospitals-for-covid-19-are-unvaccinated
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 29, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay So you can be a Christian while you're performing the functions of your job as a doctor or scientist simply by virtue of the fact that you believe in the divinity of Christ, but you can't really * be * religious and pray to god to guide you or whatever other nonsense they ask of you. Because of that, I just don't see them as "working together in harmony" but rather, taking turns, working separately because if you tried to employ them at the same time there would be conflict.
Someone for sure will have something to say about the trash can, that is where I keep the feed.
ChestRockfield comments on Jul 28, 2021:
I have the geese by me trained. They know my car and run to it when I leave or come home to get some corn. I don't even like the dumb motherfuckers. They're nasty to humans, even nastier to each other, and shit everywhere, but I liked the conditioning process.
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 29, 2021:
@azzow2 Is it possible to get them to eat from your hand?
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 28, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay I just fundamentally disagree, here. Religious doctors can only be good at what they do at times when they are being actively non-religious. As you said, it's a mistake to use the Bible as a medical reference. You can be as many things as you want, but when you can't be two of them simultaneously, they are * necessarily * in competition with each other. Maybe it's an incongruancy in how we define those terms, but I just can't make peace with calling two traits that cannot simultaneously coexist, compatible.
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
ASTRALMAX comments on Jul 28, 2021:
In so far as everything in the universe may be considered to exist in a complementary state, that is, one could not exist without the other as in hot and cold, left and right, rich and poor, presence and absence, etc etc etc then may be considered 'compatible.' In the human realm it takes ...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 28, 2021:
@ASTRALMAX Agreed. I basically made that same point.
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 28, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay You're basically describing a god of the gaps, here. We can only be godsy when it wouldn't interfere with all the god-free stuff we need to do. At any point during their "god time" they need to take a work call or respond to a work email, they have to be all, "god, I need you to hide in the closet for a min while I take this". In that sense, however, they're not * compatible, * they're literally competing for your time, and religion loses anytime you have important shit to do. When you're at home and your kids need help with their homework, Jesus takes a backseat. When your mother gets sick, you don't just tell her you're going to pray on it, you assess her and potentially take her to the hospital. When you're baking, you don't just pray your yeast is still good, you use scientific principals to test it. When someone is breaking into your home, you don't pray to God that the police come and save you, you pick up a phone given to us by science and/or you pick up a gun, also given to us by science. The examples are endless. People can do two things, but that doesn't mean they are not very clearly in competition.
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
KKGator comments on Jul 27, 2021:
Hardly. Science is always questioning, religion rejects questioning. Science is constantly testing and updating what is "known". Religion is rooted in never questioning what is "known", and desperately trying to use science to validate their myths. There is NO compatibility.
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 28, 2021:
Boo. Mskathleen has blocked me, so I couldn't read that exchange. She probably wrote something stupid, considering.
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
TheMiddleWay comments on Jul 27, 2021:
com·pat·i·ble /kəmˈpadəb(ə)l/ adjective (of two things) able to exist or occur together without conflict. The only time there's conflict between science and religion is when either side creates that conflict. Otherwise, a yin yang coexistence is eminently possible, as evidenced ...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 28, 2021:
But these scientists and doctors ignore the part of themselves that thinks and behaves like a religious person every day while practicing science and medicine. "How did I catch this disease?" could either be answered with "God is punishing you for breaking [insert biblical law]" * or * "Science has taught us about germ theory, so first we will draw blood and take some swab samples of the infected area, use scientific equipment and methods to determine what bug it is, then deploy scientifically created medicines and treatments in order to cure you of the disease." Science doesn't exist without inquiry, and the response "God did it" couldn't be more antithetical to that. I also believe the use of everything science has given us that we wouldn't have if all of us were always okay with the answer "because god" and think they're totally compatible now (and ignoring all potential future advancements we'd forego if we * all * started saying "god did it" from now on) is disingenuous at best. That's like saying you're going on a hunger strike and that god will keep you alive while at the same time having a nurse hook up TPN to you to run during the strike.
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
SeaGreenEyez comments on Jul 27, 2021:
If you're religious, especially a theist, you'd think so. **Theistic Science** *Supporters of theistic realism or theistic science include intelligent design creationism proponents J. P. Moreland, Stephen C. Meyer and Phillip E. Johnson. Instead of the relationship between religion and science ...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 28, 2021:
"Their own version is science" doesn't sound too horrific until you think of that phrasing in other contexts. Would you pick up a knife and fork if someone wanted to serve you * their own version of food * or undress and lie down on a table for someone that wanted to give you * their own version of massage? * Gross.
Science and Religion compatible? [scientificamerican.com]
ASTRALMAX comments on Jul 28, 2021:
In so far as everything in the universe may be considered to exist in a complementary state, that is, one could not exist without the other as in hot and cold, left and right, rich and poor, presence and absence, etc etc etc then may be considered 'compatible.' In the human realm it takes ...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 28, 2021:
That's an interesting point, but I'm not seeing how those are opposite in that way.
The vaccines do not prevent 'cases'. [reuters.com]
ChestRockfield comments on Jul 27, 2021:
That's all great news. Who do you think you're scaring here? You're telling me the people who get the vaccine make up only 3% of hospitalizations and deaths but can still catch, carry, and spread it like a motherfucker to help kill off all the dumb fuckin' anti-vaxxers? BEST. NEWS. EVER.
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 28, 2021:
@BDair Again, you're spouting complete bullshit. 97% of those hospitalized and dying are unvaccinated. How dumb do you have to be to see that as no statistically significant difference?!
The ethics of eating animals.
Trajan61 comments on Jul 22, 2021:
If we don’t eat cows what are we going to do with all this grass? Cows are essentially the only critter capable of converting grass and forages into something edible for us humans.
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 28, 2021:
@Trajan61 If I was worried about what was better for me though there's about a million things I wouldn't eat...
Stephen Harmon spent 2020 and 2021 spewing lies and disinformation about Covid and the vaccines to ...
BDair comments on Jul 27, 2021:
On the flip side. https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/fully-vaccinated-33-year-old-new-yorker-dead-after-cursing-unvaccinated-as-idiots-and-morons/
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 27, 2021:
Yeah, UrsiMajor, for every 5,000 unvaccinated people dying of stupidity, there's one vaccinated person dying with no direct ties to the vaccine they took, so there. Guess this dumb motherfucker told you.
One is for the living...
phxbillcee comments on Jul 24, 2021:
The idiot's new fashion statement...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:
@bbyrd009 I will fully admit we could be making a mistake because of something we don't know. That should never be up for intelligent debate. However, I make my decisions based on the best available evidence. When the rates of hospitalizations and deaths have continued to rise for the unvaccinated population to where they now make up 97%, that's clear enough for me to "risk" it. I also believe that covid likely wouldn't kill me (which I would welcome) but instead maybe just cause permanent damage (which I would not want), so that's another clear reason for me to get vaccinated.
One is for the living...
ChestRockfield comments on Jul 24, 2021:
Yes! Toe tags for all anti-vaxxers!
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:
@bbyrd009 You do realize this is purely wishful thinking, right? You know, I don't actually * control * anything with my desires. That said, I don't know what could "backfire" on me. People usually say that as in 'be careful what you wish for, you just might get it' but I would LOVE to have this wish come true.
One is for the living...
phxbillcee comments on Jul 24, 2021:
The idiot's new fashion statement...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:
@bbyrd009 Just because you've had it doesn't mean you can't get it again...
One is for the living...
ChestRockfield comments on Jul 24, 2021:
Yes! Toe tags for all anti-vaxxers!
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:
@bbyrd009 Why does that matter?
The ethics of eating animals.
Heavykevy1985 comments on Jul 22, 2021:
Humans evolved to eat meat. Our teeth and digestive systems are testament to it.
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:
@Moravian That is true. Saw it with my own eyes. Plus they'll steal your Magic cards for drug money.
Could Covid vaccine be taken as a pill? [bbc.com]
yvilletom comments on Jul 25, 2021:
Yes, if taken anally.
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:
@barjoe You don't need to convince me he has no idea what he's talking about. 😝
Could Covid vaccine be taken as a pill? [bbc.com]
yvilletom comments on Jul 25, 2021:
Yes, if taken anally.
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:
@barjoe I think he thinks he's naturally immune.
The ethics of eating animals.
HankSherman comments on Jul 23, 2021:
All I know is that its kinda a family tradition...and while I don't have a problem with the thought of eating most any kind of animal, I would have a really hard time eating most any animal I had befriended. Was brought up with the moral that killing anything should at least have the justification...
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:
@HankSherman You can ask him if that's how he meant it, but it read like that to me, clear as day. The italicized part is what I heard in my head: "Yeah, 'befriending' * an animal you're going to eat * seems to add another ethical dimension * much worse than just killing and eating it * --like a predator grooming a child to be abused."
The ethics of eating animals.
Heavykevy1985 comments on Jul 22, 2021:
Humans evolved to eat meat. Our teeth and digestive systems are testament to it.
ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:
@Moravian Point taken. But we're not exactly bedridden cancer patients easing the pain with tons of opiates either.
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