The ethics of eating animals.

Heavykevy1985 comments on Jul 22, 2021:

Humans evolved to eat meat. Our teeth and digestive systems are testament to it.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:

@Moravian Point taken. But we're not exactly bedridden cancer patients easing the pain with tons of opiates either.

One is for the living...

phxbillcee comments on Jul 24, 2021:

The idiot's new fashion statement...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:

@bbyrd009 How could you know you're immune? I think assuming you're immune to something is what makes someone an idiot...

One is for the living...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 24, 2021:

Yes! Toe tags for all anti-vaxxers!

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:

@bbyrd009 That's like a mortality rate that is calculated after a pandemic is over I think. The fatality rate for a specific disease is number dead from the disease divided by the number who were infected. You think anti-vaxxers and people who are naturally immune to covid-19 are a larger group than the vaccinated? Well, that's impossible considering 49.2% of the country is fully vaccinated and 56.8% have had at least their first dose (which would preclude them from being an anti-vaxxer or having natural immunity). Who are you listening to that you regurgitate such nonsense?

The ethics of eating animals.

Heavykevy1985 comments on Jul 22, 2021:

Humans evolved to eat meat. Our teeth and digestive systems are testament to it.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:

@Moravian That's a different argument altogether. That is a discussion about not eating carbs causing your body to go into ketosis, instead of not eating vegetables.

One is for the living...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 24, 2021:

Yes! Toe tags for all anti-vaxxers!

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 26, 2021:

@bbyrd009 Only an idiot would think that calculation tells you anything, so if EVERYONE you listened to for a year used that number, everyone you know is an idiot. You can think those things are similar, but that's probably why you put the likelihood of god existing at 50%. I bet you are one of those people who think hating racists is akin to hating black people. I'm not saying death to everyone else like it's an arbitrary group, in singling out anti-vaxxers because they are a dangerous group of idiots.

One is for the living...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 24, 2021:

Yes! Toe tags for all anti-vaxxers!

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 25, 2021:

@bbyrd009 Everyone * you * associate with maybe, but that number doesn't mean anything. It doesn't even tell you anything in a historical context because the global population is changing constantly. But if that's what you think is good evidence, that explains a lot.

One is for the living...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 24, 2021:

Yes! Toe tags for all anti-vaxxers!

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 25, 2021:

@bbyrd009 It would be similar to how other infection rates and death rates for other diseases are calculated. There are plenty of people every year that get influenza that don't get a positive test and are not included in the numbers. I would venture to guess more people got tested for covid, with or without symptoms, because there was a lot of mandatory testing and because many people thought the stakes were a lot higher (regardless of what you think). This all means that there are probably more undiagnosed flu than covid, but either way it gives us a very good estimate of how this disease stacks up against others. And it's sure as fuck better than dividing by the population of the entire world which is just fucking idiotic.

One is for the living...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 24, 2021:

Yes! Toe tags for all anti-vaxxers!

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 25, 2021:

@bbyrd009 So you think the death toll that you used to incorrectly calculate the death rate is good enough to come up with that ridiculous number you quoted, but the number of positive infections, which is WAY less ambiguous or subjective than cause of death, * isn't * a good enough number to calculate the * actual * death rate?! Nothing you say makes any sense.

One is for the living...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 24, 2021:

Yes! Toe tags for all anti-vaxxers!

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 25, 2021:

@bbyrd009 That's not how you calculate the death rate of a disease... By your calculation, * every * disease, even ones like Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease that kill 100% of the people that get infected, would have an insanely low death rate. And the death rate has consistently been 2-3% since the beginning of the pandemic. And so that you know, death rate is number dead divided by number infected.

The ethics of eating animals.

Heavykevy1985 comments on Jul 22, 2021:

Humans evolved to eat meat. Our teeth and digestive systems are testament to it.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 25, 2021:

@Moravian You'll still poop without it. I promise.

One is for the living...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 24, 2021:

Yes! Toe tags for all anti-vaxxers!

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 25, 2021:

@bbyrd009 You're blind as fuck if you think the fatality rate is .04% So that you don't sound ignorant, the actual death rate is 2.14% and that's just for THIS virus. Anti-vaxxers cause harm to people because of * all * of the vaccines they refuse to take and spread misinformation about. So your .04% quote is so incredibly misguided it's laughable. Best of luck to vaccinated people only!!

The ethics of eating animals.

Trajan61 comments on Jul 22, 2021:

If we don’t eat cows what are we going to do with all this grass? Cows are essentially the only critter capable of converting grass and forages into something edible for us humans.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 25, 2021:

@Moravian I'm not sure why, but I think grass-fed beef is gross. Give me the corn packed shit from the farms and let me die of a heart attack ASAP.

The ethics of eating animals.

JackPedigo comments on Jul 22, 2021:

Don't even need to look at the report. I passed that issue over 20 years ago. Eating is a sensuous experience. It includes most of not all the senses. We, here in the 21st century do not need to eat something that is horrible for the environment, violent for the animals and bad for our bodies. For ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 25, 2021:

Well, don't forget, the farming of vegetables harms animals, too...

The ethics of eating animals.

BethPl comments on Jul 22, 2021:

I think humans have evolved to the point where we can get our protein from sources other than animals. If you have ever been to the stockyards or a chicken factory then you probably would be sick. The smell and cruelty is sickening.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 25, 2021:

Not probably. We can. What are the merits of that though is the question. I contend that a strict no animal product or byproduct stance is actually not the most logical stance to reduce animal suffering. If you could source your calories from waste streams, it's still more beneficial to animals to eat that, even if it's meat, than to eat "new" vegetables.

The ethics of eating animals.

Tejas comments on Jul 22, 2021:

If I could eat lab grown meat that had the same nutritional value as normal meat i would.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 25, 2021:

I'm more concerned with taste. Lab grown meat * that tastes like real meat * then we can start having a discussion. There are still things you probably can't substitute, like a nice rack of baby back ribs.

The ethics of eating animals.

Heavykevy1985 comments on Jul 22, 2021:

Humans evolved to eat meat. Our teeth and digestive systems are testament to it.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 25, 2021:

@Moravian, @Heavykevy1985 I always find this debate interesting even if it doesn't go anywhere. I do think it's odd that we can digest almost all of an animal, yet we can't digest the most prevalent energy storage method in the plant world, cellulose, at all.

The ethics of eating animals.

HankSherman comments on Jul 23, 2021:

All I know is that its kinda a family tradition...and while I don't have a problem with the thought of eating most any kind of animal, I would have a really hard time eating most any animal I had befriended. Was brought up with the moral that killing anything should at least have the justification...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 25, 2021:

@HankSherman He meant befriending something you were planning to kill and eat.

I doubt you've hurt their feelings...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 24, 2021:

I just pass them on the right and cut them off.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 24, 2021:

@phxbillcee Thanks, but no thanks. My problem is not that I'm going to kill myself, it's that I'm * not * going to.

Vaccinations are up 14% from last week.

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 24, 2021:

Let them vaccinate or let them die. I'd take either, but prefer the latter only so that we don't have them fighting against us during the next inevitable pandemic.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 24, 2021:

@Beowulfsfriend That is a perfectly acceptable cost. They are most likely going to get sick and die of something, someday (unless they get hit by a bus or something) so our society is out that money no matter what. The sooner we pay that cost for them, though, the less damage they can do with their misinformation that costs a ton extra. Let 'em all fuckin' die, ASAP. I wish we lived in a society that could deny some treatments that you shouldn't need. You smoked? You can't get a lung transplant. You were an anti-vaxxer? You can't get treated for infection.

Australia covid numbers from January-July [tga.gov.au]

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 23, 2021:

The post falsely claims that 210 people have died in Australia as a result of COVID-19 vaccines. The figure in the post refers to the number of people who have died after receiving the vaccine, a figure authorities say is less than the expected natural death rate for a similar cohort of the wider ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 24, 2021:

@anglophone The best we can hope for is they get Covid and die as soon as possible...

Australia covid numbers from January-July [tga.gov.au]

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 23, 2021:

@anglophone @K9Kohle789 @admin Can we kick these motherfuckers off agnostic.com already for spreading verifiably-false, DANGEROUS misinformation?!?

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 24, 2021:

@Wildgreens If you didn't, it's only because you're scared of anyone challenging the idiotic fuckin' shit that constantly falls out of your mouth.

Ironic is it not? I have seen a lot of this here in this group.

t1nick comments on Jul 22, 2021:

Works for me. It's not only the fact that they have refused to get the vaccine, but the values and ethics that usually accompanies that decision. A retain sf-centered selfishness ad lack for concern for their neighbors and their community. Not the type of citizens you can depend upon.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 24, 2021:

@BDair As usual, you're completely fuckin' wrong about everything you're saying. "Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine." "Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated" https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187 "Asymptomatic spread has been one of the most mysterious and haunting aspects of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. Do people without any symptoms of COVID-19 help spread the virus? The alarming answer is yes. Evidence continues to mount that a large percentage of people who test positive for COVID-19 don’t have any obvious symptoms." "The truth about asymptomatic spread of COVID-19 | UCHealth Today" https://www.uchealth.org/today/the-truth-about-asymptomatic-spread-of-covid-19/?amp That said, 100% happy if the virus spreads among anti-vaxxers and skyrockets in fatality rate. We'll all be safer with less of you fuckin' idiots roaming around.

Spoiler Alert

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 23, 2021:

And I hope all of them are vaccinated and none of them are you.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 24, 2021:

@Wildgreens You keep posting that like it means something. If I could infect every single anti-masker and anti-vaxxer without putting the vaccinated at risk, that would be THE BEST outcome I could possibly think of. I doubt you'll find too many people here that don't feel the exact same way. Also, why doesn't it say Covid-19 at the bottom? Oh, because it's not about the Covid vaccine.

I doubt you've hurt their feelings...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 24, 2021:

I just pass them on the right and cut them off.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 24, 2021:

@phxbillcee That looks like guaranteed death. That's a win win to me. Either I get to pass a truck that's not where he should be or I stop having to be alive.

I doubt you've hurt their feelings...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 24, 2021:

I just pass them on the right and cut them off.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 24, 2021:

@Lizard_of_Ahaz Sounds good to me.

They only now realized that too many of their voters were dying of the virus.

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 23, 2021:

I hope every fucking Republican in the country dies of Covid (or anything, really).

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 23, 2021:

@AnneWimsey For sure. Hopefully tonight.

All beef hot dogs by Vienna Beef. Bite my wiener. You know you want to.

Robecology comments on Jul 23, 2021:

I just plunked down some extra $$ for salt-free, nitrate/nitrite free bacon. Any reports? Good/bad/worth it/not worth it?

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 23, 2021:

Salt free?! And you paid EXTRA?! I'd rather suck off a Tofurkey.

More than once, people I work with have talked about how they hate a certain celebrity.

AnneWimsey comments on Jul 23, 2021:

Ummmmm, why would You "adjust your playlist"???????

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 23, 2021:

@barjoe Fuckin' thank you! Anyway, if you can't hear a song come on the radio without losing your shit for any reason other than Ignition Remix came on and you're a 14 year old girl that got raped by R. Kelly you need to check yourself.

More than once, people I work with have talked about how they hate a certain celebrity.

barjoe comments on Jul 23, 2021:

I hate that "garbage Reality TV show" even tho I've never watched it. What "artist" are you referring to?

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 23, 2021:

Today it was Mariah Carey. (Two weeks ago it was a different nurse and it was about Lisa Rinna, the time before that it was maybe a pop or rap singer I wasn't familiar with.) I have no idea what she did that was so objectionable (while I assume being perfectly predictable) because I don't want garbage fucking programming, but apparently it was so bad that I couldn't even put on a Christmas-in-July mix because I couldn't figure out a way to prevent Spotify from playing songs off one of the greatest selling Christmas album of all fucking time causing, and I'm quoting our co-workers, "her to become violent. Have you seen her get violent?" Now, there's obviously hyperbole there, but still, that's fucked.

SAVE AMERICA PAC DONORS GAVE $75,000,000 It was initially formed -- in the immediate wake of ...

zeuser comments on Jul 23, 2021:

How appalling! Nobody could have predicted this! A shocking, surprising turn of events! That was my Lindsey Graham impression. Whaddaya think of it?

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 23, 2021:

If you could do it while looking like you just had a cock in your mouth, it'd be spot on.

More than once, people I work with have talked about how they hate a certain celebrity.

Lorajay comments on Jul 23, 2021:

If I were in an office where others could hear my playlist I would be listening with earbuds.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 23, 2021:

We're playing it for patients, not for us. And nurses aren't allowed to wear ear buds at work. 😝

More than once, people I work with have talked about how they hate a certain celebrity.

AnneWimsey comments on Jul 23, 2021:

Ummmmm, why would You "adjust your playlist"???????

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 23, 2021:

We play music for the patients, and one of the other nurses HATES Mariah Carey. Nothing about her music, mind you, just that it reminds her of the way she acts on a show basically about her being an out of control diva. Well what the fuck did you expect to see? And if they're behaving the way you know they would to be on the show in the first place, why are you mad?! The whole thing annoys me and unfortunately, you're the only people I can vent to right now.

Frankly there is a way to do this - that would not infringe upon anyone's rights or create any ...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 22, 2021:

How do you know people have them to get them to pay? You can buy all the individual parts and build one, heck, you can 3D print guns.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 22, 2021:

@EcurbTProphet But that still begs the question, what would this measure actually * do? *

Frankly there is a way to do this - that would not infringe upon anyone's rights or create any ...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 22, 2021:

How do you know people have them to get them to pay? You can buy all the individual parts and build one, heck, you can 3D print guns.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 22, 2021:

@EcurbTProphet At the risk of sounding like the 'only the criminals will have guns then' people, why would the SANE people need to be "taxed" so to speak with impossibly high insurance rates? I'm all for gun control measures, but I'm just asking questions about the efficacy of the proposals.

[al.com] This is very sad. I hope the "vaccines are dangerous" promoters have a conscience.

BDair comments on Jul 22, 2021:

Perhaps we just know the facts and survey the data. https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON=CAT=ON=COVID19=IwAR0ZOUG6St-mGsl13YQ5blB58lySmcNXsKeEJWUREI-ejrw4wgPoGVfgDRU

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 22, 2021:

Even the data you post doesn't support your dumb fucking ideas. That table amounts to one tenth of one percent of vaccine doses having a reaction, most of which are mild and may not even be related to the vaccine (but even if they were, they were mild so who gives a shit). If you only look at death and permanent disability, it drops to 6 ten thousandths of a percent or about one in 17,000. Whereas close to two percent of people who get Covid die from it.

I would change “Him” to Thou but this is otherwise beautiful.

Willow_Wisp comments on Jul 21, 2021:

The God photo makes zero sense.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 21, 2021:

This

Bagels sounded good for breakfast tomorrow morning and I didn't have any on hand.

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 18, 2021:

I used a no knead bread recipe that's widely available online then formed the bagels, boiled them in bicarb, coated with everything bagel seasoning, and baked. I was pleasantly surprised how good they came for my first attempt, but took so much effort that I probably wouldn't bother doing it ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 21, 2021:

@Jurnee "The Science of Making Bagels (Why and How to Boil Bagels) - Food Crumbles" https://foodcrumbles.com/science-making-bagels-boiling/ "Classic Water Bagels - Recipe - FineCooking" https://www.finecooking.com/recipe/classic-water-bagels "Food Science: Why Bagels are Boiled | Kitchn" https://www.thekitchn.com/food-science-why-bagels-are-bo-86711?amp=1 "Bagels recipe | Epicurious.com" https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/bagels-366757 "Homemade Bagel Recipe - Love and Lemons" https://www.loveandlemons.com/bagel-recipe/ "How to Make Bagels - NYT Cooking" https://cooking.nytimes.com/guides/81-how-to-make-bagels "How To Make Bagels | Kitchn" https://www.thekitchn.com/bagel-recipe-23035192?amp=1 Is that enough for you to admit you're wrong and that there isn't a consensus on the 'it's not a bagel if boiled with baking soda', or at least shut the fuck up?

Bagels sounded good for breakfast tomorrow morning and I didn't have any on hand.

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 18, 2021:

I used a no knead bread recipe that's widely available online then formed the bagels, boiled them in bicarb, coated with everything bagel seasoning, and baked. I was pleasantly surprised how good they came for my first attempt, but took so much effort that I probably wouldn't bother doing it ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 21, 2021:

@Jurnee I quoted them. Do you really think I made that shit up? Are you so inept you couldn't Google search some of the words to see that content available online? Is that because you're stupid, or lazy?

Bagels sounded good for breakfast tomorrow morning and I didn't have any on hand.

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 18, 2021:

I used a no knead bread recipe that's widely available online then formed the bagels, boiled them in bicarb, coated with everything bagel seasoning, and baked. I was pleasantly surprised how good they came for my first attempt, but took so much effort that I probably wouldn't bother doing it ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 21, 2021:

@Jurnee You replied while I was typing, so it seems either of us can find as many sources as we want to confirm what we're saying. All that means is that there is no consensus and you're being a snob.

Bagels sounded good for breakfast tomorrow morning and I didn't have any on hand.

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 18, 2021:

I used a no knead bread recipe that's widely available online then formed the bagels, boiled them in bicarb, coated with everything bagel seasoning, and baked. I was pleasantly surprised how good they came for my first attempt, but took so much effort that I probably wouldn't bother doing it ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 21, 2021:

@Jurnee I found 3 different sources that say you can add baking soda to your water for bagels to your one that says you don't, so it looks like it agrees with me more than you from what we've found so far. I don't know why you care either way though. There are plenty of other differences but significant overlap, none of which there is a consensus on, so it seems maybe how you shape, dress, and eat them appears to be the most consistent defining factors. Did I twist them, salt them, tear them in chunks, and dip them in cheese dip? Nope. I made them doughnut shaped, covered them in everything BAGEL seasoning, cut them in half and smeared motherfuckin' cream cheese on them bitches. Come down off that culinary high horse of yours and shove any kind of boiled baked good you'd like into that face hole. And you can call it whatever you like as long as you're chewing instead of talking.

I often miss subtle hints but this one is made for me

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 21, 2021:

That's my ideal woman!! My friend and I want to start a dating site for suicidal people.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 21, 2021:

@St-Sinner Wouldn't * everyone * that wants to use my site deserve a discount then? Maybe I'll provide an agnostic.com member discount?

One of my very good friends is very angry with me because I do not believe that covid is just a hoax...

freeofgod comments on Jul 20, 2021:

Be you! What does a used soul go for these days?

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

On several occasions I've sold my soul to people for a few bucks. They thought I was being crazy and delighted in buying it for such a cheap price. "You're going to regret this so bad" they'd say. I'd just put on a serious, but ever-so-slightly concerned face like maybe I was making a mistake so I wouldn't scare them out of the deal. Funniest money I've ever made. I was basically stealing money from them while they thought they were super taking advantage of me.

Marjorie Taylor Greene suspended from Twitter over false COVID posts.

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 20, 2021:

I agree 100%. Wildgreens and that other loud-mouthed, covid-denying, anti-vaxxer moron should both be banned.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

@UrsiMajor I didn't say block. I only block people who have blocked me so they can't continue to say shit on my posts/comments that I can't see or respond to.

Marjorie Taylor Greene suspended from Twitter over false COVID posts.

BDair comments on Jul 20, 2021:

Censorship should never be tolerated in a free society.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

Censorship is * already * tolerated AND WELCOMED in a free society. I LOVE the fact that people cannot freely scream "FIRE" in a crowded room without the threat of severe consequences. I think anyone who isn't a fucking idiot would agree.

Tho often we wish they wouldn't...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 19, 2021:

Wow, I didn't know I'd be presented with a quote from Hawking that made him seem dumb, but here we are. If everything is predestined, which it is, whether or not we look before crossing a road is also predestined and unchangeable. Are we sure that's a real quote, because it's really fucking stupid...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

@bbyrd009 As I explained before, both being true makes the least sense. Just because you've thought two opposing things doesn't mean the middle ground is the most logical. If someone used to think that skin color was the sole determinant of how intelligent a person would be and now they think skin color has no bearing on intelligence, would you say the most logical position is that skin color * partially * determines intelligence? If you used to believe Santa brought all your presents, and now you realize Santa brings none of your presents, is it most logical to think Santa brings * some * of your presents? I hope two examples is enough... And I think "one extreme to the other" is a mischaracterization. I thought one thing, because literally everyone in the world thinks it because it really * feels * like we have free will. And then I realized I was wrong. There's nothing really "extreme" about either of those.

Tho often we wish they wouldn't...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 19, 2021:

Wow, I didn't know I'd be presented with a quote from Hawking that made him seem dumb, but here we are. If everything is predestined, which it is, whether or not we look before crossing a road is also predestined and unchangeable. Are we sure that's a real quote, because it's really fucking stupid...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

@bbyrd009 I've mostly given up trying to explain this to people. Either you can get it, or you can't. (Did you bother watching that video?) I was adamantly opposed to the notion I didn't have free will, and against my "will" I realized it anyway while researching it. That further solidified it for me. I actively didn't want to believe it and ended up believing it anyway.

Tho often we wish they wouldn't...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 19, 2021:

Wow, I didn't know I'd be presented with a quote from Hawking that made him seem dumb, but here we are. If everything is predestined, which it is, whether or not we look before crossing a road is also predestined and unchangeable. Are we sure that's a real quote, because it's really fucking stupid...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

@bbyrd009 If you understood the mechanics of this, you'd realize how silly of an argument it was you just made.

Tho often we wish they wouldn't...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 19, 2021:

Wow, I didn't know I'd be presented with a quote from Hawking that made him seem dumb, but here we are. If everything is predestined, which it is, whether or not we look before crossing a road is also predestined and unchangeable. Are we sure that's a real quote, because it's really fucking stupid...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

@bbyrd009 It's one of those things where once you come to the realization that we don't have free will, there's no going back. It's more absolute than abandoning a belief in god. I know a lot of people who don't believe in free will but I've never met a single person who realized we don't have it and then switched back to believing we do.

Tho often we wish they wouldn't...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 19, 2021:

Wow, I didn't know I'd be presented with a quote from Hawking that made him seem dumb, but here we are. If everything is predestined, which it is, whether or not we look before crossing a road is also predestined and unchangeable. Are we sure that's a real quote, because it's really fucking stupid...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

@bbyrd009 Just because you aren't sure doesn't mean we aren't.

Tho often we wish they wouldn't...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 19, 2021:

Wow, I didn't know I'd be presented with a quote from Hawking that made him seem dumb, but here we are. If everything is predestined, which it is, whether or not we look before crossing a road is also predestined and unchangeable. Are we sure that's a real quote, because it's really fucking stupid...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

@bbyrd009 A. Why would that make this circular? B. An all-or-nothing approach is actually the only likely possibility. Think about what mechanics would need to be in play for you to * sometimes * have free will. If you could sometimes act or think freely, why couldn't you do so all the time. Conversely, if you couldn't act freely at times, what mystical powers change the laws of physics to transiently allow for it? There is a concise video about this that I think would be valuable for you: Watch "Determinism vs Free Will: Crash Course Philosophy #24" on YouTube https://youtu.be/vCGtkDzELAI

I have achieved an awkward age.

Charlene comments on Jul 20, 2021:

Burned toast triggers you?

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

Do you watch Archer??

Lowlife and scumbag piece of dogshit.

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 20, 2021:

Disagree. Or maybe I'm a piece of shit, but McCain was a pile of garbage and his death shouldn't white wash his record. Should we no longer talk about Hitler being a bad guy either?

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

@CuddyCruiser I was agreeing with you...

Tho often we wish they wouldn't...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 19, 2021:

Wow, I didn't know I'd be presented with a quote from Hawking that made him seem dumb, but here we are. If everything is predestined, which it is, whether or not we look before crossing a road is also predestined and unchangeable. Are we sure that's a real quote, because it's really fucking stupid...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

@bbyrd009 It's actually not circular at all. Please explain why you think it is.

Lowlife and scumbag piece of dogshit.

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 20, 2021:

Disagree. Or maybe I'm a piece of shit, but McCain was a pile of garbage and his death shouldn't white wash his record. Should we no longer talk about Hitler being a bad guy either?

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

@CuddyCruiser That'd be like Cosby donating $1000 to a women's empowerment group. Too little, too late. Also, the bare minimum shouldn't be praiseworthy. "Oh, everyone pat me on the back because I didn't fuck over millions of people like the rest of the assholes in my party wanted to do." Fuck out of here with that nonsense.

Just saw a commercial that made me shake my head.

AnneWimsey comments on Jul 20, 2021:

No buffets, no crowded places of Any kind, even vaccinated properly & wearing a mask....the world' is full of unvaccinated PIGS. (And their unsupervised, untrained kids.)

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

@AnneWimsey All I can eat for one low price with a side of hot crab Rangoons?

Just saw a commercial that made me shake my head.

AnneWimsey comments on Jul 20, 2021:

No buffets, no crowded places of Any kind, even vaccinated properly & wearing a mask....the world' is full of unvaccinated PIGS. (And their unsupervised, untrained kids.)

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

If I could never go back to my all you can eat sushi buffet, I'd be even sadder than I already am on a daily basis.

Bagels sounded good for breakfast tomorrow morning and I didn't have any on hand.

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 18, 2021:

I used a no knead bread recipe that's widely available online then formed the bagels, boiled them in bicarb, coated with everything bagel seasoning, and baked. I was pleasantly surprised how good they came for my first attempt, but took so much effort that I probably wouldn't bother doing it ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 20, 2021:

@Jurnee I don't know what to tell you, the recipe I just looked at for soft pretzels had butter and brown sugar in it, so that seems different. Plus the internet still disagrees with you on the baking soda is for pretzels only thing...

What we are, who we are, who we are because of what we are or what we are because of who we are?

Storm1752 comments on Jul 18, 2021:

There are things which are intrinsic to our nature, and extrinsic. But ANYTHING we think or do is INTRINSIC to our ability to do an infinite number of things given a certain set of circumstances. Therefore WHO we are and WHAT we are are both identically our INTRINSIC selves. We are not one ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 19, 2021:

@Storm1752 Nope. That makes perfect sense. And that's why I said depending on how you meant it. So it turns out I did agree with everything you've said (minus the word 'soul' 😝). Well stated. Too bad it was lost on the OP.

Tho often we wish they wouldn't...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 19, 2021:

Wow, I didn't know I'd be presented with a quote from Hawking that made him seem dumb, but here we are. If everything is predestined, which it is, whether or not we look before crossing a road is also predestined and unchangeable. Are we sure that's a real quote, because it's really fucking stupid...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 19, 2021:

@phxbillcee Maybe I did. Please explain.

Democrats concerned about election fraud. [rumble.com]

Willow_Wisp comments on Jul 19, 2021:

Well everyone is concerned with election fraud. The Republicans have proven they are not above it. Their solution is to not let Democrats vote, which is a fraud in and of itself. I have heard MANY reports of Republicans voting for their dead mothers and such, but the only Democrats I've heard ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 19, 2021:

Did you expect something that wasn't pure crap from PBuck?

Humor

CuddyCruiser comments on Jul 16, 2021:

I would say for the most part, yes. The non religious aren’t thin skinned like the believers are, who cannot tolerate those different from them.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 19, 2021:

There are super thin-skinned conservative atheists... Just look at how they block ANYONE who challenges their nonsense even once.

Humor

KKGator comments on Jul 16, 2021:

I don't think so. I think everyone is different and find different things funny. Although, it would seem that perhaps Atheists aren't as easily offended.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 19, 2021:

But wouldn't being able to find the humor in more topics/subjects mean you have a higher likelihood of having a better sense of humor?

What we are, who we are, who we are because of what we are or what we are because of who we are?

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 18, 2021:

I see no difference between "who" and "what" you are...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 19, 2021:

@Word I'm done with this nonsense.

Mother who believed 'hand of God' would heal her daughter jailed for endangering child's life

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 18, 2021:

I didn't read all the details in this case, but that's unusual. Most courts side with parents' ability to put their children in danger in the name of freedom of religion.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 18, 2021:

@anglophone Oh, my bad. I assumed it was a story about someone in the US because I thought HippieChick was an American. This is what I get for commenting without reading. Sorry all.

What we are, who we are, who we are because of what we are or what we are because of who we are?

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 18, 2021:

I see no difference between "who" and "what" you are...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 18, 2021:

@Word Then there are those that are intentionally obtuse. Seems like that's more "who/what you are" than anything else.

What we are, who we are, who we are because of what we are or what we are because of who we are?

Storm1752 comments on Jul 18, 2021:

There are things which are intrinsic to our nature, and extrinsic. But ANYTHING we think or do is INTRINSIC to our ability to do an infinite number of things given a certain set of circumstances. Therefore WHO we are and WHAT we are are both identically our INTRINSIC selves. We are not one ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 18, 2021:

@admin is there anything you can do about the gender emoji showing up after the facepalm emoji? 🤦‍♀️

What we are, who we are, who we are because of what we are or what we are because of who we are?

Storm1752 comments on Jul 18, 2021:

There are things which are intrinsic to our nature, and extrinsic. But ANYTHING we think or do is INTRINSIC to our ability to do an infinite number of things given a certain set of circumstances. Therefore WHO we are and WHAT we are are both identically our INTRINSIC selves. We are not one ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 18, 2021:

And that's why I objected to the 'we are who/what we say we are' part... 🤦‍♀️

What we are, who we are, who we are because of what we are or what we are because of who we are?

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 18, 2021:

I see no difference between "who" and "what" you are...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 18, 2021:

@Word To * name * you "homo saipan," I assume after a taxonomic classification, communicates to me your parents were super weird, (not to mention bad at spelling). My assumptions based on the fact that we're communicating tells me much more than that. However, none of it * changes * anything about who/what you are.

What we are, who we are, who we are because of what we are or what we are because of who we are?

Storm1752 comments on Jul 18, 2021:

There are things which are intrinsic to our nature, and extrinsic. But ANYTHING we think or do is INTRINSIC to our ability to do an infinite number of things given a certain set of circumstances. Therefore WHO we are and WHAT we are are both identically our INTRINSIC selves. We are not one ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 18, 2021:

I agree with almost everything you said and tried to say more or less the same thing. The only part is the 'we are what we say we are' that depending on how you meant it is objectionable.

What we are, who we are, who we are because of what we are or what we are because of who we are?

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 18, 2021:

I see no difference between "who" and "what" you are...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 18, 2021:

@Word A name (or a taxonomic classification) is not who or what something is, it's an agreed-upon, man-made construct, a method of communication.

Bagels sounded good for breakfast tomorrow morning and I didn't have any on hand.

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 18, 2021:

I used a no knead bread recipe that's widely available online then formed the bagels, boiled them in bicarb, coated with everything bagel seasoning, and baked. I was pleasantly surprised how good they came for my first attempt, but took so much effort that I probably wouldn't bother doing it ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 18, 2021:

@Jurnee Umm, do you believe that is that a hard and fast rule? The internet disagrees with you... "Others might call for alkalizing (increasing the pH-value) the boiling water by adding food grade lye or baking soda. None of these are essential for making a bagel but all do have a subtle effect on the bagel’s outside." "When the bagels are ready to cook, add the bicarbonate of soda to the boiling water and reduce to a simmer." "Sometimes lye or barley malt extract are added to the boiling water. Both of these additions help the crust brown in the oven and also give the crust a distinct flavor. These days, baking soda is often substituted for lye."

Here’s an interesting question (at least I find it to be of interest)… let’s assume that ...

dalefvictor comments on Jul 17, 2021:

If I drive down the road and am drunk and hit another car and kill everyone inside it am I guilty of Murder. I think so. One is responsible for what they do. At least that is the way I operate. That is unless trump and several other members of congress are in the car.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 18, 2021:

@misterinvisible I was agreeing with his claim that drunken driving is murder, not manslaughter... Unless I misunderstood his point?

Here’s an interesting question (at least I find it to be of interest)… let’s assume that ...

dalefvictor comments on Jul 17, 2021:

If I drive down the road and am drunk and hit another car and kill everyone inside it am I guilty of Murder. I think so. One is responsible for what they do. At least that is the way I operate. That is unless trump and several other members of congress are in the car.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 18, 2021:

This is one of the reasons I feel so bad for Michael Vick. There were two other football players that, in my opinion, MURDERED humans who served almost no time of any, but Vick spent almost two years in a federal prison and got fired. If you read articles about NFL players who are criminals, you see passages like this: "Michael Vick did things so horrible to dogs that it has earned him a spot on this list ahead of people whose actions resulted in the loss of human lives." WHY?!? Fuck people and their ridiculous obsession with dogs.

Here’s an interesting question (at least I find it to be of interest)… let’s assume that ...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 17, 2021:

Just because people technically aren't responsible for any of their actions doesn't mean we don't need to take steps to protect society from those that have a tendency to harm others.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 18, 2021:

@dalefvictor If we're actually voting for them. With the amount of gerrymandering and other election tampering methods, I'm not sure we are. Anyway, that seems a bit of topic; am I missing something?

With Covid-19 spiking in mostly unvaccinated areas, I found this funny.

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 17, 2021:

Wait, why did it stop being funny?

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 17, 2021:

@HelenRoseBuck Fraud?

Here’s an interesting question (at least I find it to be of interest)… let’s assume that ...

Willow_Wisp comments on Jul 17, 2021:

I'm not a proponent of free will, but that's not an argument that should ever be used in court. A rampaging bear might not be responsible for it's actions but we kill it anyway and humans are just another animal life form.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 17, 2021:

@misterinvisible Well, without getting into the weeds about free will being illusory, generically "choosing" not to do something would still have an effect on the environment you're in, so there will necessarily be a reaction to your state of existence, thus the concept one could produce no reaction to an action/"inaction" is nonsensical. What follows from that is that I'm not quite sure how thinking about a nonsensical proposition makes you more aware or enlightened... Taoism is nonsense, too. To assume there is an ideal state for the universe or a goal of "balance" one should strive for assumes all kinds of things for which there is no evidence. Consider the claim that you should strive to align your movements to be in harmony with the natural vibrations of the pink flying elephant. Both are nonsense.

Here’s an interesting question (at least I find it to be of interest)… let’s assume that ...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 17, 2021:

Just because people technically aren't responsible for any of their actions doesn't mean we don't need to take steps to protect society from those that have a tendency to harm others.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 17, 2021:

@misterinvisible I think we're using the word 'responsible' differently.

Here’s an interesting question (at least I find it to be of interest)… let’s assume that ...

Willow_Wisp comments on Jul 17, 2021:

I'm not a proponent of free will, but that's not an argument that should ever be used in court. A rampaging bear might not be responsible for it's actions but we kill it anyway and humans are just another animal life form.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 17, 2021:

@misterinvisible Also, the concept of an action not causing a reaction is literal nonsense.

Oh please, stfu

phxbillcee comments on Jul 16, 2021:

Most of my lovers were friends before, during & after our 'relationship', so, no, I call BS.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 16, 2021:

@phxbillcee Am I friends with women in attracted to? Yes. Would I smash if given the chance? Yes. Has wanting to bone (with or without anything happening) ruined a friendship. Yes. Can being friends with people you're attracted to cause problems in your relationship? Most definitely. So is it possible? Sure, but difficult.

Oh please, stfu

phxbillcee comments on Jul 16, 2021:

Most of my lovers were friends before, during & after our 'relationship', so, no, I call BS.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 16, 2021:

Isn't this kind of proving the point of the saying? The saying is referring to not being able to be friends with people you're attracted to * and remain just friends. *

Oh please, stfu

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 16, 2021:

You can be friends with people of the gender you're attracted to, but it's much more difficult to be friends with * people * you're attracted to.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 16, 2021:

@OldMetalHead Well, it'd have to be, no? Otherwise you'd probably not be just friends. This is all from someone who's unmarried, though. Don't know what it's like for married folk, but it seems like it would pose problems...

Doctors make mistakes ONLY A FRACTION OF MEDICAL ERRORS ARE REPORTED ☠️Death by ...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 16, 2021:

Medical mistakes while * trying to help * are different than drawing down on a black man for no other reason than he's a * black* man and shooting him dead. That is an egregious false equivalency. But* you* should avoid all doctors, all the time, no matter the reason, especially if you have a ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 16, 2021:

@Paul4747 And why the fuck they gotta drag Morgan Freeman into this like he'd support something this fucking stupid?

Paralysis is a small price to pay to possibly reduce symptoms from a virus that more than 99% of the...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 13, 2021:

The global fucking death rate is 2.15% you dumb motherfucker. By your calculations 1.15% of infected people consider death to not be a symptom?!? You should be banned from this site for spreading verifiable misinformation.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 15, 2021:

@BDair Most assuredly, I'm not the smartest, but I know I'm not the dumbest. 😝

Paralysis is a small price to pay to possibly reduce symptoms from a virus that more than 99% of the...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 13, 2021:

The global fucking death rate is 2.15% you dumb motherfucker. By your calculations 1.15% of infected people consider death to not be a symptom?!? You should be banned from this site for spreading verifiable misinformation.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 15, 2021:

@BDair So you admit you don't know but then guess it's practically everyone else on the planet and live your life according to that intentionally poor guess? That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. I really hope I'm still alive when you earn yourself a Darwin Award.

Fecundity

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 14, 2021:

Magic: teaching vocabulary since '93!

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 14, 2021:

@FrayedBear Archetypes in Magic the Gathering, the world's first and hopefully most popular trading card game.

Fecundity

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 14, 2021:

Magic: teaching vocabulary since '93!

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 14, 2021:

@FrayedBear I'm not sure. I used to play it in my Thallid deck, but I'm so glad you posted this because I'm considering putting it in my new Squirrel deck now.

Paralysis is a small price to pay to possibly reduce symptoms from a virus that more than 99% of the...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 13, 2021:

The global fucking death rate is 2.15% you dumb motherfucker. By your calculations 1.15% of infected people consider death to not be a symptom?!? You should be banned from this site for spreading verifiable misinformation.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 13, 2021:

@BDair Sure, there were probably some, but there were tons of people that had to get Covid tests for various reasons that found positives without symptoms. But you'd have to assume more than double the total confirmed cases were infected and you'd STILL not be anywhere close to a 99% symptom-free mark because that would only reduce the deaths to 1% let alone all of the myriad of other symptoms (some of which required hospital or even ICU admission) that people got. Your numbers are shit. Your explanations are ridiculous. You should be banned from this site.

Paralysis is a small price to pay to possibly reduce symptoms from a virus that more than 99% of the...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 13, 2021:

The global fucking death rate is 2.15% you dumb motherfucker. By your calculations 1.15% of infected people consider death to not be a symptom?!? You should be banned from this site for spreading verifiable misinformation.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 13, 2021:

@BDair I'll reiterate: only fucking morons would claim they didn't have symptoms from something they didn't have.

Paralysis is a small price to pay to possibly reduce symptoms from a virus that more than 99% of the...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 13, 2021:

The global fucking death rate is 2.15% you dumb motherfucker. By your calculations 1.15% of infected people consider death to not be a symptom?!? You should be banned from this site for spreading verifiable misinformation.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 13, 2021:

@BDair You wouldn't divide by the total global population unless you were a fucking moron. Of course you don't have symptoms from things you're not afflicted with. Unless you want to tell us all how your menstrual cramps were this month.

I found this to be 100% effective.

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 13, 2021:

Until it's not. You should try that as a vaccination for polio for your kids.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 13, 2021:

I'm sincerely asking you to prove how much more effective vegetables are than vaccines by not using any for your children. Hopefully someone here will see/post their obituaries and we can all laugh at your pain.

Anti-vaxer nurse dies of covid. Meme fact checked below. [theadvocate.com]

BDair comments on Jul 13, 2021:

Nurse dies after vax. https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/portuguese-nurse-dies-two-days-after-getting-the-pfizer-covid-vaccine/ar-BB1ctBAA

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 13, 2021:

This is like those dumb ass arguments about someone getting stuck in their seatbelt as a reason to ignore all the data that it saves lives and not wear a seatbelt. How about this? Why don't you do is all a favor. It is a fact that a non-zero number of people die from choking on food, so you should never eat food again to avoid that risk. Hopefully in a couple weeks we'll be done with your idiotic posts.

Do you think that human genetics which gave us higher levels of abstract thought and language, also ...

Poseidon comments on Jul 12, 2021:

Not if they are starting out with rational beliefs.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 13, 2021:

This seems borderline circular...

Is pointing out the error of American ways an act of love extended to them or the expression of ...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 12, 2021:

I don't think it's either...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 13, 2021:

@FrayedBear Yes and no. We have a really corrupt broken system where the candidates pick their voters and exclude tons of people from voting (often times based on skin color). Anyone who thinks America is a democracy with free and fair elections is sorely mistaken. Not to mention the fact that we have a ton of dumb motherfuckers that vote against their own best interests and allow crazy, wanna-be dictators to rise to power. Also, and this is going to sound awful, but heavy is the head that wears the crown, so to speak. America is often looked to to solve/intervene in atrocities around the world, even though we're responsible for some of them ourselves. Then it becomes a damned if you do damned if you don't situation because you'll never please everyone with any action or inaction.

Is pointing out the error of American ways an act of love extended to them or the expression of ...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 12, 2021:

I don't think it's either...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 12, 2021:

@FrayedBear I assumed it was clear from context I meant the American government. I apologize it wasn't.

I'm on a dating site, but I don't feel confident approaching anyone.

ChestRockfield comments on Dec 23, 2020:

There are male date-site scammers? That's interesting. Do you mean 'not legit' or do you actually mean they were trying to get you to go to a pay site or mail them gift card numbers? It seems this isn't really a dating site. It's very sad. There really needs to be a dating site for people who ...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 12, 2021:

@ForeignNata That's not really what I was asking. I was asking if there were fake male profiles that attempted to get women to go to pay sites. I highly doubt it

I'm not sure how much longer I can continue living in the US, but I am too adventurous to go back to...

barjoe comments on Jul 8, 2021:

I don't let religious people define me. I'm not going to relocate because of them. I never thought of living anywhere outside of the United States. I'm good here.

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 12, 2021:

I hear my money in Thailand makes me a king. I've considered it, but I'm a lazy shit-pile of an American that only knows English.

Is pointing out the error of American ways an act of love extended to them or the expression of ...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 12, 2021:

I don't think it's either...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 12, 2021:

@FrayedBear Reread what I wrote and you quoted. You're talking to the guy that said he understood why people flew planes into our buildings instead of declaring war...

Is pointing out the error of American ways an act of love extended to them or the expression of ...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 12, 2021:

I don't think it's either...

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 12, 2021:

@FrayedBear Well, who's "them"? Americans? They don't have any control over foreign policy and don't really know any of the behind the scenes shit that goes into these decisions. Is it tough love or hated for the government? I mean, I don't think they think they're doing anything wrong, or at least not something they could do differently. Shame or hated probably won't do anything.

Do you think that human genetics which gave us higher levels of abstract thought and language, also ...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 9, 2021:

I can't understand why anyone would say no to this. Genetics are responsible for everything, no?

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 12, 2021:

@Davekp Ooh, I forgot my follow up move where I pretend the sarcastic thing they said to make fun of me and call me out they were actually saying about themselves because I also think anyone reading is too dumb to figure that out for themselves. Wait, I thought you didn't have any more time for this? Be careful, people might deduce * you * were the one that was just spouting bullshit to save face...

Do you think that human genetics which gave us higher levels of abstract thought and language, also ...

ChestRockfield comments on Jul 9, 2021:

I can't understand why anyone would say no to this. Genetics are responsible for everything, no?

ChestRockfield replies on Jul 11, 2021:

@Davekp I love when I know my argument has been defeated and I pretend like it hasn't but that I don't have any more time so I concede the argument in an exaggerated way signaling I'm not actually conceding just to make it look like I know I'm right but the other person is too dumb to understand... all to save face, even though there's absolutely nothing wrong with admitting defeat and amending my position. It's my favorite move.