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DangerDave comments on Aug 20, 2020:
I've always been agnostic or, more precisely, apatheist.
Hopefully people will get this joke, it is not offensive. LOL
DangerDave comments on Aug 20, 2020:
As true as it was funny...wow ... about 50 years ago!
World's Religions Growth in 100 Years [vm.tiktok.com]
DangerDave comments on Aug 20, 2020:
I've heard the growth will be mostly unaffiliated in upcoming decades but any projection will be biased heavily on the far too numerous data sources chosen by the staticians. My opinion is I hope our progeny continues to overcome the lies of religions.
Facebook is quietly pressuring its independent fact-checkers to change their rulings As Facebook ...
DangerDave comments on Aug 20, 2020:
About time, especially with the upcoming election
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DangerDave comments on Aug 20, 2020:
Awesome! Great color for you!
Atheist/Agnostic
DangerDave comments on Aug 20, 2020:
Gnosis refers to knowledge, theism refers to beliefs. Therefore a gnostic theist knows there is a (or are) god(s) while an agnostic atheist (as are many on this site) doesn't believe in God(s) but is not presumptuous enough to say it/they are not possible. Start with Wikipedia for more details...and definitely avoid this peanut gallery when seeking factual information!
[youtu.be] Her body building nearly ruined our age gap relationship
DangerDave comments on Aug 18, 2020:
Thanks for all the input ... it may be some time before I get back... not only was my laptop stolen but I'm in a quarantine location with no internet. I appreciate you soooo much!!!
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DangerDave comments on Jun 23, 2020:
Oops!
just for fun
DangerDave comments on Jun 23, 2020:
Good ones! I can relate... like I just found out about the Crab Shack!
if all humanity will perished Nothing will be changed in this world .
DangerDave comments on Jun 23, 2020:
Well, a lot would change but to the betterment of the planet. Perhaps another dominant species would evolve which would be more humane and environmentally aware.
On my facebook page i post a lot of anti religious statements.
DangerDave comments on Jun 21, 2020:
At least you're making the effort. I personally take a "pro-reason" stance so as not to immediately provoke their defensive responses.
Beastiality, apparently a big deal now.
DangerDave comments on Jun 2, 2020:
Not one of my many kinks. Good luck getting anyone who has it to admit it!
‘Light ’em up’: Police open fire on Minneapolis residents filming them from their front ...
DangerDave comments on Jun 2, 2020:
The actions of too many Minneapolis police is deplorable. If their Commissioner meant what he said he would fire a huge percentage of these degenerates
Transparency in governments is needed, but not this kind.
DangerDave comments on Jun 2, 2020:
Don't get it
I would like to hear from you
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
Anyone in particular? If not try getting into some discussions. 😉
Remember this
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
Good point!
Corona virus category everyone
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
Funny and sad at the same time
Renamed...
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
And the sheeple will just buy more of it!
I would like to hear from you
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
K, when I can stop trying to figure out how he did this...
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DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
Agree wholeheartedly... this is social Darwinism in it's most basic and obvious form!
Internet giants are fighting to protect your private browsing history [techspot.com]
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
Too little too late sadly.
James Dobson Warns Democrats Will ‘Enslave’ Conservative Christians | Michael Stone
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
Don't tell them we plan to bring back feeding them to the lions...shhh...
😂 a family member sent this image to me as evidence for god.
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
So we have the fish (for one, a symbol of the xian church) and the bull (starting with the Sumerians, from our earliest archeological findings I think)... so... Is this person proposing yet another xian sect...as if I over 2000 aren't enough?!?
Reflections : classysexy
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
Lower please!
Memorial Day, and war is always hell.
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
Wow. All elation and hope shattered. Still, I'm grateful you did the research and you're sharing his story. Thank you... and him.
Are people aware enough of (epidemic) thyroid problems we are all facing in a still nuclear world?
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
It never occurred to me that my thyroid issues may be the result of growing up near a nuclear plant. Only recently diagnosed, my life is so much better now that I'm on the proper medication.
This isn't a meme, but I thought it would be of some interest.
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
Spare the rod..
North Carolina Reports Highest 1-Day Spike Of COVID-19 Cases : Coronavirus Live Updates : NPR
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
hmmmm... the article said nothing a about them reopening churches today. 😋
Cf. Lockdown to Retirement. After retirement comes death. Discuss?
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
I'll have my arts till the day I die. Well, maybe not the dance anymore but I can still move well enough to teach it ..after that there's always YouTube!
I haven't introduced myself as of yet. My name is Tom I am an agnostic who prays... Strange right?
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
I'm with you. I'm an apatheistic priest of Spiritual Humanism and a creative involved in performance, literary and graphic arts. I'm an apatheist because I truly don't care if there are or aren't gods. My favorite 'god theory' is pantheism...in fact, that was my higher power in AA... I'm 19 years sober so that works for me! I've given up on praying, that is shouting my wishlist to the heavens, but I'm an avid meditator. From concentrating on a specific problem to clearing my mind for my next artistic inspiration, this alone has me convinced there is far more to the uni/Om-niverse than we mere mortals can possibly know. Beware the know-it-all gnostic atheists here. You've already met a few! I know, we're a huge pain to those who know everything but I'm 'apatheistic' to them as well! Welcome!
I'm from the Buckle on the Bible belt.
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
Virginia transplant now living in Las Vegas, where the chief deity is cold hard cash... ... lemme guess... you grew up in a southern baptist family too?
As a young catholic school girl, I tried so hard to believe.
DangerDave comments on May 25, 2020:
Good for you! I was also one who questioned the indoctrination from the very beginning. One of my earliest recollections was wondering how we could be singing "Jeebus Loves Me" in our southern baptist kindergarten while hearing the minister's voice booming over overpowered loudspeakers telling our parents we were all going to "hey y'all". Really?!?
As we await a vaccine, these COVID-19 treatments are being tested | Science News
DangerDave comments on May 24, 2020:
Necessity is the mother of invention
Sometimes things don't go your way.
DangerDave comments on May 24, 2020:
Give it time. Remember, a lot of theists returned to church today.
RELIGION
DangerDave comments on May 24, 2020:
Regardless of our personal beliefs this should be among our primary objectives, especially where harm above individual delusions are concerned.
Why Atheists Are Not as Rational as Some Like to Think [phys.
DangerDave comments on May 24, 2020:
Excellent article! Sadly, most gnostic atheists who should read it won't. I'm sure many who would couldn't overcome the cognitive dissonance they'd encounter. Sadder still is the coddling they get on this site. Their attacks on agnostics and freethinkers would never be accepted of theists.
I read in my local newspaper some Atheists are being blamed for burning down a church in ...
DangerDave comments on May 24, 2020:
Nonbelief hardly protects one from extremism. When it comes to gnosticism in any form it seems to reinforce it in too many people. This site is a perfect example. There are too many gnostic atheists here who are just here to spew hatred on anyone who'd dare disagree with them and do so with relative impunity. At least the atheist who joined to recruit church bombers was finally suspended but he started several lengthy, meaningless debates about the role of atheism in his disturbingly militant antitheism. Argue as you will there are inherent dangers in any dogma in which the believers are convinced they know everything, especially when said dogma includes how everyone else should think and believe.
Do you agree that face masks should not be worn in public?
DangerDave comments on May 23, 2020:
I'm amused...but more relieved after seeing just the first sentence!
My experience dating a man with narcissistic personality disorder, and 10 signs to look out for with...
DangerDave comments on May 22, 2020:
That definitely sounds like me in my 20's, before I was aware I have the condition. Being an active addict didn't much help the situation either. Like most disorders, those with it can get better if they own it and choose to work on it. I'm comfortable with myself, have transcended the need for approval and make it clear I'm not seeking a LTR before friendships become romantic. However I generally associate with fellow creatives who can relate to the personality type if they don't have it themselves! I'm sorry for your experience with this person and hope he decides to deal with it someway someday. Still, even at our best, those of us with NPD are not the best choices for LTRs!
Does the DMCA need 'update' ? why/not ?
DangerDave comments on May 21, 2020:
I personally miss the days of free usage internet, when whatever was posted was accessible to all while it retained its 'real world' copyrights. Of course there was pirated content then, too so...
The – Truth – will set – U – Free – from the illusion in which – U – exist – to ...
DangerDave comments on May 21, 2020:
You seem to be a fellow Spiritual Humanist. Am I right?
LIFE - is - ENERGY - being - as - ENERGY - is - LIFE - BEING - so it is that - We R - ONE - ...
DangerDave comments on May 21, 2020:
*We are not physical beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a physical experience. * Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
How would the world look like without religions?
DangerDave comments on May 21, 2020:
I'd hope so but what other ideologies would have replaced religion? For instance we've seen everything from near utopian to absolutely dystopian societies throughout history based solely on their political systems. Having grown up in the pre-Reagan, still very liberal and flourishing US (which had much greater separation of church and state) I shake my head at what this country has become. Consider as well the intellectual advancements humankind would have made had the Dark Ages not happened. Still, as we've seen, technological advances alone do not improve the human condition.
Please welcome @dalefvictor to the group. Look forward to your viewpoints.
DangerDave comments on May 21, 2020:
Welcome @dalefvictor to one of the finest groups on the site!
How would you describe white American culture?
DangerDave comments on May 20, 2020:
Unfortunately there are many very sad chapters in white history, but the same can be said of any race. We've all had our wars, conflicts and atrocities even since the Geneva Convention of 1949. Our own multicultural conflict in the Middle East, drug lords of Mexico, Central and South America, warlords of Africa. But to equate wars, or hostility, to a lack of culture is to overlook any race's culture entirely. Each country and each heritage thereof has it's own customs, arts, technological developments,...I'm particularly proud of my Celtic roots, for instance. Yes, we had our barbaric background but which "tribe" didn't? Yet we Celts first forged iron, tamed horses and devloped arts still influencing the world four millennium later! You cannot judge the past by the more civilized standards we of developed nations have today. Of course, we today view the past brutalities as abhorrent when then they were accepted as the norm. Especially you cannot judge entire cultures on their negative aspects alone, either. Well, you can but to do so is to take a very limited and prejudiced view of them.
Do you give any sort of belief.
DangerDave comments on May 20, 2020:
Just another subject I'm apathetic about. I was a huge fan of von Daniken when he first published. I was about 12 when "Chariots" came out and, while i remained skeptical, I considered his buybullical interpretations to make much more sense than any xian ones I'd ever heard. Then as now I remain the skeptic though. As a true apatheist, I still wouldn't care if conclusive evidence was presented by either side of the argument. I'd just carry on as the rest of the world went bat shit crazy...crazier. While I support those great minds who are committed to discovering the truth on this and myriad other subjects, in the end it'd have no real effect on my daily life.
Is religion a luxury of being able to abuse gaps in relaity and science or was/is it part of human's...
DangerDave comments on May 18, 2020:
I'll vote evolution in that anything that could not be explained was given supernatural qualities. Instead of the abuse of science this way of thinking was more likely the birth of it. While the sun moving across the sky may have been attributed to a god in a fiery chariot, at least early man could recognize the sun moved across the sky, at predictable intervals, with slight variances with passing days, seasons,...
Many people accuse Atheists as being “Devil worshipers or evil doers.
DangerDave comments on May 18, 2020:
I really must clarify here: **The Church of Satan and the Satanic Temple are both gnostic atheist institutions.** In addition these organizations are the only satanic institutions with nonprofit status in several countries. While there are many 'theistic satanist' groups, from the intellectual to the idiotic, these people prefer to worship in secrecy. There are several great websites to explore the tenets of the established churches starting with Wikipedia for general information to their very own sites for serious study. Of course this doesn't make all satanists atheists any more than it means all atheists are satanists. This is just one of the common misconceptions of many gnostic theists and not necessarily because they are aware of the facts. At least now hopefully you are.
Young people attended a :coronavirus party in Kentucky, governor says.
DangerDave comments on May 18, 2020:
Still, the question remains...was that the one and only person who went to the party infected? hmmm...
With countless possibilities in the universe, there must be many better and many worse worlds.
DangerDave comments on May 17, 2020:
I'd like to move to that utopian alternate earth where everyone became just what they wanted to be and lived a completely stress free and completely fulfilled life. Yes, even the street cleaner and short order cook would love their work and all other aspects of their lives whether their current positions were permanent or mere stepping stones to better things... ...at some point my life as a world renowned metal musical theater composer and spiritual humanist philosopher might get boring but there as here there'd always be video games and other...diversions!
I am agnostic because I want to have an open mind! Really?
DangerDave comments on May 17, 2020:
Don't confuse gnosticism (knowing) with theism (believing, and their vice versas). You're clearly an atheist but you're not (making yourself?) clear on whether you are gnostic or agnostic. If any of the thousands of xtian sects have it right, we're all in big trouble. Even all the xians who were *this* close because they got it wrong too! While I use this as one of the thousands of reasons all the xian sects have it all wrong, I can still offer no definitive proof especially against their failsafe 'gawd will leave false evidence to test your faith' statement. Still, being an apatheist gives me the luxury of not giving a shit. While I find many other god theories more plausible...you guessed it...while considering them may be entertaining I could still really care less.
As an Atheist that is public about his non-belief, I have always felt that it was important to push ...
DangerDave comments on May 17, 2020:
I'm going to hell in a million religions...and if there is a (gnostic) atheist hell I'll be there too. As an agnostic and, more specifically, an apatheist I'm happy to have no dogmas I feel a need to defend as well as a clear understanding of the absolute idiocy of arguing for or against that which cannot be proven or disproven, especially when dealing with a *true believer* be they gnostic atheist or theist. You might consider dealing with the negative behaviors inherent to specific religious sects instead of trying to go full SJW on other's beliefs in general. Otherwise you'll wind up the bad bad guy for anyone witnessing your defense and assertion of your personal beliefs, except perhaps the few who share them.
Do you know who you are?
DangerDave comments on May 17, 2020:
Of all the theories of existence I've encountered, the pandeistic concept "we are the uni/omniverse experiencing itself" I find very compelling. For any sentient beings there may be this is in part true, even if said "experience" is limited to the solitary creature. Some religions and philosophies take this to the extreme of including not only inanimate matter but even voids, considering even these to be a part of a whole whose sum is something greater. Interesting food for thought but let me make it clear I present this as a theory. I am an apatheist after all and, since this has no effect on my daily life beyond being a mere musing, l really couldn't care less.
Does being an agnostic mean that you’re on the wall or you lack acceptance?
DangerDave comments on May 17, 2020:
Not in the least...it merely means you are not among those so delusional as to convince themselves they know one way or another.
Atheism is an absense of belief in god(s).
DangerDave comments on May 17, 2020:
You're describing gnostic atheism, or someone who doesn't believe in a diety AND knows they do not exist. I, on yet another level, am an apatheist: I only know I don't care about the existences of deities and particularly don't care about what you or anyone else thinks they know about the matter...or anything else for that matter!
I wonder how many churches will close for good due to covid-19.
DangerDave comments on May 17, 2020:
We can only hope but small churches will no doubt fail for the same reason as their small business counterparts. We can also hope the virus will leave many disillusioned with religion but I'm sure just as many will be stronger in their faiths by attributing it to any of too many nebulous prophecies. Sadly, the fundies will always find a way!
Primitive cultures continue to postulate that "higher intelligences" are responsible for the ...
DangerDave comments on May 17, 2020:
Advanced cultures and open minds do as well. Keep in mind there is a HUGE difference between postulating and believing, and a MUCH greater difference from knowing. In fact, as this video clearly supports, it takes a much more "primitive" culture/mind to not make such postulations.
Gnostic Atheist, Agnostic Atheist, Agnostic Theist, or Gnostic Theist?
DangerDave comments on May 17, 2020:
You forgot several variations, including mine: apatheist. Not that I care much for labels either, but it is most fitting. As for ANY 'god arguments' for or against I truly couldn't care less.
Where are all gods to help get rid of covid.
DangerDave comments on May 17, 2020:
I'm here but I started it to rid the world of excess population. "My will" and stuff.
The Coronavirus has hit America really hard, people do not know what is going to happen next.
DangerDave comments on Mar 20, 2020:
Don't count on it. I've overheard it's a(nother) fulfillment of apocalyptic prophecy...just as any war, famine, pestilence or bad hair day is.
Don’t screw this up!
DangerDave comments on Mar 20, 2020:
Don't worry. I got this.
Trump Screams at Pence for Not Praying Hard Enough to Make Biden Lose | The New Yorker
DangerDave comments on Mar 4, 2020:
Parody perhaps but I'm sure it happened.
Agnostic wicca
DangerDave comments on Mar 4, 2020:
Welcome! Witches are among the finest people I've ever met. My longest contact with them was among a coven of xian witches who followed several bands I was in. I'll never understand their dogma but it worked for them. One introduced me to Celtic mythology and each seemed far removed from xianity, though all believed in Jeebus as at least an enlightened child of god (of which *we* are many) . Still, since their teachings, I've proudly carried the title of Bard. I was already aware of the emotional (and spiritual) states I could create and count this as my primary form of 'magick'. I see you have immediately attracted the righteous furor of many of our gnostic atheists. Forgive them for they too (as their theist counterparts) have no clue!
I have been an agnostic for years, there is no question in my mind!
DangerDave comments on Mar 4, 2020:
Dieties? Don't know, don't care and it, they, whatever don't matter.
Hi. Apologies in advance for this rather abrupt question: Is this site an echo chamber?
DangerDave comments on Mar 2, 2020:
One challenge of non-believers is coming together despite our vast variations of *beliefs* and, moreso, what we believe we ***know*** Some here love to debate incessantly and this site is great for that. Being an apatheist, I could care less about arguing the unknowable but instead I use this site to share my art (which is often summarily censored...the admins of this site are 'conservatve' even by xian standards! ) , meet new people of similar mind and share my views of the myriad subjects of agnosticism. Gnostic theists never last long on this site. Sadly, the equally boorish gnostic atheist 'know it alls' are given free reign to spew their self proclaimed infinite knowledge and righteous rage upon any who'd disagree. They're easy enough to avoid though and, when they get too preachy, even easier to block! Welcome! Great question!
Just curious
DangerDave comments on Feb 29, 2020:
Welcome Cap'n! Yer as cute a Cap'n as any pirate could e'er ask fer! I have never been 'fully fooly' either a theist or atheist. I'm a true agnostic with no inclination to indulge in any debate for or against: mainly because it's just a waste of time arguing with anyone who 'knows' the unknowable. Furthermore, I'm an apatheist: I really could care less since any god, gods, goddesses and/or whatevers have ever intervened in my life...in any way they demanded recognition, much less idolation for their interventions. Finally, I'm a priest of Spiritual Humanism. I feel what we definite as the spiritual realm, from the psychological to the paranormal, are worthy of serious study. Pleased to meet you! 😊
All the way back in 1917 a famous "miracle" supposedly took place in Fatima, Portugal where three ...
DangerDave comments on Feb 27, 2020:
Even translated it sounds as if Mary moved to Spain long enough to pick up not only their language but its syntax and the people's cultural mythologies. Yeah, it could happen. About as likely as blood for sin or the immaculate infection but ..sure...
As a newbie, my personal situation.
DangerDave comments on Feb 27, 2020:
You have been truly 'blessed' in having experienced such a 'charmed' childhood! As you can see, I wasn't so fortunate! Still, while I might voice an occasional "thank god" as a result of growing up in a household fully fooled by the incredibly incredible southern baptist dogma I recognize these behaviors for what they are. Many of us have not been so lucky. Welcome!
DeVoss fails to answer simple questions
DangerDave comments on Feb 27, 2020:
Old news. Everyone who saw her muddle through her congressional review knows she's an idiot.
Hi there i am a older man, of 72.
DangerDave comments on Feb 27, 2020:
It's no one's fault... it's just our nature. There are several great posts in the group on how, where and when to find potential younger women. Of course among the best are finding those involved in activities you enjoy...and, of course, having the 'nads to approach them! Most of all, happily accept your preferences regardless of any stigmas placed on us by this society; still far too influenced by xian standards. Too many people live their entire lives not knowing, or too repressed to even consider, what brings them true happiness.
What would you say to a friend that was a flat earthist?
DangerDave comments on Feb 22, 2020:
Why say anything? If you value the friendship agree to disagree or simply avoid the topic. Like gnostic atheists who troll this site, those of us who don't know everything are a constant frustration to those who...do.
What is in the bible?
DangerDave comments on Feb 22, 2020:
Preaching to the choir... now, if we can only convince that pesky, delusional other 90%+ of the population.
A whistle blower revealed LDS (Mormon) church has hidden $100 BILLION from the public and IRS.
DangerDave comments on Feb 22, 2020:
Seeing most xian sects now worship Republican geebus (whose teachings include profits above principles) I'm not the least bit surprised. But yeah, any holie war between opposing judaic cults is always entertaining.
Look like it may be fun.....
DangerDave comments on Feb 5, 2020:
Good a reason as any
Just did my first block on here.
DangerDave comments on Feb 5, 2020:
Gnositic (know it all) atheists but they usually block me first. After all, chiding them about their presumed, pretentious and presumptuous omniscience is actually more fun that going at it with gnostic theists! So if you are one you may as well block me now...I hear atheists.com is available though...still, when you gather a bunch of know it alls together...
Hi all, new here.
DangerDave comments on Feb 3, 2020:
Welcome, Tammy! Your story isn't uncommon here...most of us have grieving parents (and/or other family and/or friends) praying their most fervent prayers for our return to the fold. Having seen the actual light (of reason) that's not possible for me though I have learned to be gentle in breaking this to those theists important to me. It never works but I can always restate my position...again...and again...and... Anyway, welcome!
I am not an atheist.
DangerDave comments on Jul 30, 2019:
As the Dawkin scale (pic 1) shows, atheist and agnostic are not mutually exclusive. Sadly, it is the gnostic atheists on this site which 1) shouldn't be here and 2) try to make life as difficult as they can for actual agnostic atheists (or theists, for that matter) who come to this site for open-minded discussion. Hence, my edit of the Dawkins scale (pic 2) Dawkins described agnosticism of any kind as a "weak" position. Gnostics on both sides of the fence will tell you you're riding the fence, in hopes of some chance of redemption by any of the far too many "gods" that "be". Nonsense. This may be the case for some I am very firmly agnostic in that I can't claim to know everything. While I personally feel the Judaic religions to be the least likely to be "true" there are too many other possibilities (deism, pantheism, omnism,...) which far exceeds the human capacity to completely discount. Of course I don't know everything...and I know I'm a huge burden on those who do...both theist and non!
HOW DO CHRISTIANS EXPLAIN THEIR SUPREME GOD HAVING FLAWED CHARACTER TRAITS LIKE ANGER AND VIOLENCE?
DangerDave comments on Jul 30, 2019:
Simple answer: They (generally) don't. In that xianity has so many denominations (or cults), there is a great variance in the verses and even entire books of the buybull they consider...valid? For lack of a better term... So to some degree when the atrocities of jehovoid are even recognized it is in response to the wicked ways of those so brutalized. You know, humans. Those he created in his own image but immediately tempted with knowledge. Knowing full well the buybull is full of bull, this was a means of its ACTUAL "creators" of keeping the flocks stupid and compliant.
11 body language signs She's attracted to you [youtu.be]
DangerDave comments on Jul 29, 2019:
Good one for all ages...I actually learned a few things from this one...too!
Dating older: my 30 year age Gap relationship [youtu.be]
DangerDave comments on Jul 29, 2019:
Another great post!
I feel young enough to be in the group. Are there any counselors in this group? aha
DangerDave comments on Jul 29, 2019:
I am a degreed teacher and trained counselor but that was years ago. Still, I've honed all those skill sets very well in my "calling" career of...performer, performance arts coach, entertainment manager...even in marketing and sales. My "current certifications" are as a priest(s?) of Spiritual Humanism, Jediism and Dudeism all of which I take very seriously. Probably the Dudeism TOO seriously! As the "absent originator" I check in from time to time but this group has done exceptionally well "counseling" as needed, at least in a "group therapy" format. Besides, the focus of this group is to unite those interested in OM/YW relationships. Its a personal preference, not a mental illness! Look back on some of our previous posts. You'll see we all have our reasons for being here and there have been no altercations at all, In fact, any differences of opinions have been handled quite civilly! And of course you're not too old...age is a frame of mind anyway! Welcome!
Do you believe in supernaturals?
DangerDave comments on Jul 27, 2019:
I prefer the term "paranormal" in that it better reflects the nature of what we can not yet understand. These phenomena are "with" nature rather than "superior" to it. While I'd need to do more research into the superstring theory it can't be discounted with our current collective understanding. Likewise theories concerning alternative realities and multi/omniverse concepts are also possible, allowing for countless other dimensions. As a teacher and counselor, I have been amazed by the many subjective realities which seems to be unique to each individual. For theists, the "same god" can create the full spectrum of benevolence to malevolence. An example is possession, which is remarkably similar in various religions, be it "demonic" or, for many evangelicals, the "holy spirit" domination resulting in much the same behavior. My question for all of these "realities" are not how objectively "real" they are but why they are real to the individual, and how "real" these are to the believers. In this context, a god can be defined as the collective behaviors of believers as a direct result of these beliefs. I've had many "paranormal" experiences myself, many which can be easily explained. Still to explain some, such as my sudden inspirations to write songs or create fantastic fictional "realities", does nothing to quantize the "spiritual" effects of these creations. Yes, I've been the voice against the rigid thinking of the gnostic atheists on this site who will offhand state "no, it can't be" since I joined. Their minds are as closed as your average "hardcore" theist!
Five reasons why Women like older men [youtu.be]
DangerDave comments on Jul 27, 2019:
Great post! Thanks!
Hello there?!🙄 hey Dave where are you? Booooom! You been missing?😋
DangerDave comments on Jun 10, 2019:
I'm just taking a break from this site. I'll explain more in "Tales from the Last Inn Group"
Im ready to run, leave everything i own and just get the hell out of dodge.
DangerDave comments on May 3, 2019:
I've been running from the corporate machine all my life, or at least head in the opposite direction at as brisk a pace as I'm allowed. I've tried the "do what you love and the money will follow" approach all my life and can attest that, while it's not always 'financially correct' it's given me a freedom to be me and not what this society expects me to be. I'm not sure if I'm even close to understanding what you're going through but, if I am, this might help. https://youtu.be/P9LJRvMJu60
At last, a church for people who don't believe in church! Just joking, it is nice to see people ...
DangerDave comments on May 3, 2019:
Oh, they've been around awhile. While I'm sure there were earlier ones which met in the shadows or otherwise below the radar of the media of the time, the Church of Satan was established in 1963. Not to be confused with theistic satanism, Anton LaVey clearly established the church for gnostic atheists. *Since the Satanist understands that all Gods are fiction, instead of bending a knee in worship to—or seeking friendship or unity with—such mythical entities, he places himself at the center of his own subjective universe as his own highest value.* - AL https://www.churchofsatan.com/ While hardly an agnostic church (I liken it more to theistic omnism) the Unitarian Universalists have been around since 1961. Still, the church I attended in South Carolina had far too many references to xianity for me in the general assembly and, while the pagan assembly was much more fun there remained the overall feel of gnostic theism. There are UU churches with agnostic and even atheist assemblies. I've toyed with the idea of seeing if one such exists in the Las Vegas branch but it has yet been so unimportant to me I haven't bothered. https://www.uua.org/beliefs/what-we-believe/beliefs/atheist-agnostic
I'm glad the general forum was restored but it seems only a shadow of its former self.
DangerDave comments on May 3, 2019:
100% agree. I just hope it is all inclusive though, if it is, there has been a major decrease in posts. I always enjoyed scanning them but now what took 10 minutes takes less than one. I'm more concerned about the alternatives though. The censorship trends I've experienced on this site are particularly disturbing.
Hi! I'm new here and I right now I'm going through a "deconversion" period.
DangerDave comments on May 3, 2019:
Welcome to the site and freedom of thought. After decades of study I've remained an apatheist. (link) I took my first two years in college in a southern Baptist institution so I have a firm understanding of that sect of xianity, but long before I was engrossed in studies of other religions old and new looking for answers to questions no one can truly know. I might even today be called an agnostic theist in that I toy with "god theories" such as omnism, pantheism and deism. Still, there is that underlying fact I don't really care. The sun shines on believers and non of all types, and upon both the torrential rains will fall. Best wishes on your journey into happy freethinking. Just don't break your brain over it. I also suggest you beware the "knowers" of all types, theist and non. Nine of ten people "know" how the universe works and, since most of these always disagree on at least a few fundamental issues, all they are really trying to "share" are their personal delusions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apatheism
My protective equipment seems to be working when I sign on to this very interesting site.
DangerDave comments on May 3, 2019:
Keep it close to your computer while browsing social media. If it works for internet trolls I want one.
After three visits with each other last year, two in Michigan and one in Kentucky, @EllenDale and I ...
DangerDave comments on May 1, 2019:
YAY!!! I'm glad to see this site work out for you both! Gives a bit of hope for the rest of us! Congrats!
I have not been a good group member.
DangerDave comments on May 1, 2019:
Congrats on your sobriety and thanks for sharing! As you can see from previous posts, this group has been something of a diary for me and in that it served its purpose well for some time. There are no good or bad group members, only my hope those who have joined are able to take something of value from it. There is synchronicity to your post though...I was just leaving this site for awhile because I'm starting a 'D' phase of my OCD. Not that that's a bad thing in that I see it for what it is and use this phase as a period of introspection...as well as binging movies, playing video games,... I will direct you, as I have the entire group, to the most active recovery group on a.com: "Mental Health Support Group" Not that you're not welcome to post here! There is a fine, nebulous line between introspection and talking to myself! ;)
Thank you to everyone who supported me during my suspension.
DangerDave comments on Apr 30, 2019:
Welcome back..if this site continues its ever increasing thought control they may not get a chance to suspend me. I come here to not have to cater to the crazy conservatives. I will definitely not coddle them as its being...suggested.
Did you have an atheist epiphany?
DangerDave comments on Apr 30, 2019:
Nope. I've basically been an apatheist since cognizance. I remember my childhood comparisons of the Santa and Geebus "personifications", from the standpoint of a youngster growing up in a poorest of the poor fundie southern baptist families in my community. "Santa" made people happy one day out of the year, "Geebus" made them miserable for the rest of it. I was "apatheistic" to both though. I got toys on Xmas and the occasional SB goodies at pot lucks and SS (Sunday School) classes. Yet when I was coloring Jeebus, I was far more concerned with staying in the lines than any consideration if he was real or not. Still, I would no more want an "atheist epiphany" than a theist one. I am no more concerned with the existence of dieties as the non and feel anyone so inclined to believe they know either way to be a special kind of...misguided. One thing I've gained from this site is to use the term "paranormal" over "supernatural". Paranormal suggests manifestations and occurrences as a part of nature; supernatural suggests something superlative to nature, as if it is something apart from an all encompassing whole. At least that makes more sense to me. What I do know is there is a "spiritual" realm and, with our current understanding and techniques of analysis, any generalized statements fall far short of actually explaining them. For example, with my rudimentary understanding of music theory, psychology, form and analysis I can tell you what keys, key changes, tempos, harmonies, counterpoint...was used by Mozart that conjured a specific "feeling" of one of his compositions, but it is one thing to know this and utilize it. In fact, the very attempt (at least on my part) creates a very "mechanical" piece. Yet, when that "paranormal" inspiration comes I've used many of the same techniques to create such a moving piece long before I began any serious study of music. There is far more to it than that, but here I want to limit my discussion of the spiritual to terms even a gnostic atheist can understand. And again, if any who have read this thus far and understood what I've said, you must understand the name of this site is agnostic.com. I just take a few steps less as an apatheist: not only do I do not know, I could care less.
A quick update and apology to Lisa (Sassygirl3869) for her account being disabled last night.
DangerDave comments on Apr 30, 2019:
"Hostile words", huh? At least I can get past the illusion I'm among the few censored. I never would have suspected the downfall of this site would be out of protected status and preferential treatment of conservatives... ...well, at least two years ago.
I find, as a group, atheists are highly intelligent and I enjoy the mostly well thought out ...
DangerDave comments on Apr 30, 2019:
You are generally describing, at least in my experience, gnostic atheists who somehow feel a need to defend and even evangelize their opinions and, yes, beliefs...on a site supposedly for and even named after agnostics. At least you chose the correct group to address. I can't say I've ever heard the label "angry agnostics". After all, if you're not claiming knowledge, what is there to be angry about... ...other than angry atheists, perhaps?
What is with this Atheist/Agnostic divide stuff lately.
DangerDave comments on Apr 30, 2019:
Lately? This has been going on since I've been on (and off) this site, some two years now. I am certain much of the conflict comes from newcomers venting a lot of anger at religion who do not yet understand whether they are agnostic or gnostic atheists. Still, there is an element of gnostic atheists on this site which cause more friction than all the (generally gnostic) theists who I've encountered on this site...combined. In the first week on this site, I had several gnostic atheists declare (with 100% certainty) I am a theist, atheist, a "fence rider", "covering my bases",...I was told I could not use words such as spiritual, paranormal,...I was chided for every perceived "wrong" and even for the "real" ones for which I changed my opinion. I was openly recruited to an atheist church bomb squad and had to endure the incessant legal jargon of a gnostic atheist offering defense...not to the (by then banned) 'bomber' but to gnostic atheism, generally based on the 'fact' gnostic atheism is a "non-belief" and therefore exempt from any negative actions taken by gnostic atheists. "Atheist" and "agnostic" are not mutually exclusive terms. Gnostic atheists would do well to understand this and the fact they are as much outsiders of the focus of this site, actually named agnostic.com, as their theist counterparts...but too many won't.
EMERGENCY!! Hey everyone, Administration has suspended Sassygirl3869 (Lisa).
DangerDave comments on Apr 30, 2019:
@Admin while no response is required of you, I do hope the suspension of @Sassygirl3869 (Lisa) was not the result of the general hypersensitivity toward and overall support of political conservatives on this website. If this is the case, be warned you are creating the "road to destruction" of this website you were so concerned about in your recent pinned post.
How many members on here are openly atheists in the bible belt? And are you treated differently?
DangerDave comments on Apr 28, 2019:
For one I'm an apatheist priest of Spiritual Humanism and (two) I was open about these facts when I am approached by theists even when I lived in the bible belt, so on both counts my situation is and was much different. I chose the title of 'priest' (there are many acceptable in SH ordination) for it's religious overtone. Why? Because it immediately (though erroneously) made it seem to evangelicals I represented a religious movement. (SH is a philosophy, not a religion.) The following question was typically "Do you believe in Jesus?" to which I'd answer simply "yes". If there was a further question, it was usually "Do you believe Jesus died for your sins?" I'd elaborate, beginning with I was unsure of any actual existence of Jesus beyond xian mythology. I am also a priest of Jediism and, while it hasn't happened, I could see similar conversations with any 'fundamentalist' Jedis concerning Yoda. Given the limits of perceived objective reality I feel I, as anyone, am fundamentally ill equipped to make such a subjective determination. I did however move west to escape the dogmatic south, where so many opportunities were dependent on which church you belonged to. I am also a priest of Dudeism, which I personally relate directly to apatheism. While I personally could care less about the beliefs of others, I feel any action on my part need only occur when I am directly affected by the opinions of others.
We're on a road to destruction if we don't make changes.
DangerDave comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Personally, I see conservatives leaving this site as a good thing. We cannot present a united front of such varying beliefs...yes, beliefs...when so many here want to dictate beliefs, thought, art,...and yes, those who are responsible for the overwhelming (and overwhelmingly random) censorship on this site: conservatives. I find conservatives on this site to largely be gnostic atheists, or at least the vast majority of those I've come in contact with. While I haven't researched this correlation some glaring similarities are their presentation of opinions as facts; their seemingly natural ability to spout vitriol but a complete lack of any ability to accept it, or even the most reasonable rebuttals. My opinion is this: if this site can present a united front of unbelievers on topics of unbelief you've performed an incredible feat in 'herding us kittens' that far. I see no need to candy coat others' opinions, especially beyond the topics of agnosticism. In fact, the very ability to see what a person has posted and commented gives one a much better idea if it's someone they'd like to become involved with far more effectively than nebulously seeing how they feel that particular day or moment. I have several friends with whom we've reached an 'agree to disagree' status on many topics we just won't talk about. Religion and politics (in that order) are the greatest of these.
I have schitzo affective disorder,,, anyone else here have this problem or schizophrenia? Bipolar?
DangerDave comments on Apr 26, 2019:
OCD with as yet undiagnosed psychosis/es. I'm sure schizoaffective disorder is among the possibilities in that I 'live' too easily the 'lives' of the fantasy characters I create. I'm not sure how much therapy it's going to take to find out with any certainty but, until then, I'm not supposed to be attempting any self diagnoses. Anyway, good to meet you!

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