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How much of the bible have you read?
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
Cover to cover several times, often against the wishes of my southern baptist family, too many peers and finally my southern baptist professors. (Don't ask...or I'll tell!) How many times did I say back then "anyone who believes the buybull can't have possibly critically read the whole thing." Not as many as I'd have liked, I assure you of that! Usually with a baptist concordance but my favorite annotation, the "tell it like it is" of all time, is the *Skeptics' Annotated Bible*. A barrel of inconsistencies, absurdities and laughs from Genesis 1.1. I highly recommended it to anyone who wants to debate theists (they have a quran and book of moron, too!) on their own turf while being entertained in the process! http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/1.html
Why do some people presume to know things about others they can't possibly know? Like how one will ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
Been there, done that. My worst experience was with my 2nd fiance when if she didn't "know" what I'd done she certainly wanted to. I'd cheated on her...so... Still you asked, I'll answer... Its simply empathy and it varies person to person though most women, by nature, are more emphatic than more realistic men. I try not to presume anything but I had formidable emphatic skills as a child, honed by the studies of education, psychology, counseling,..I "discovered" myself many of the traits revealed in body language quite naturally, as we all do to a degree. I'm no Sherlock as I am no warlock, but I can glance over a class or audience and determine immediately who's getting it and who's really excited about it. We all have these innate skills to a degree. For women, there is the added stigma of our now quite public "rape culture". There are reservations to strange men, as there has always been, primarily as a threat assessment. If she interacts with a new male at all she may try to appear confident, strong,...and easily over do it. Hopefully, in any relationship, she is beyond that though it very well describes the behavior of my 2nd immediately "after the fact".
Solipsism in...Action?
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
@bingst @Gatovicolo and anyone else who would care answer....but first... ***WARNING: IMPLIED NUDE CONTENT*** The question is this...and there may be an empirical answer... *Is the "Sorceress" a valid interpretation of the definition of 'solipsism'?* Read the poem...the nekkid lady isn't telling the whole *Tale*...Deanna Deadly, btw. Google her...she was absolutely awesome at "getting into the characters" of our shoot. Our discussions of the vast unknown during this set led inevitably to this song about solipsism...or whatever you could call it!
Who else is a proud stoner? ;) If so, what do you prefer to use? i prefer to use a bong to smoke ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
YASH!!! Sativa for creativity, indica for the little pains in life. No more alcohol, meth, cocaine...and, not far beyond aspirin, I have never had much trust of pharmaceuticals. I've tried a lot of methods but my current favorite is just an old fashioned short pipe. From a pinch to a full bowl it serves me well. I have a nostalgia for some 70s joints, "power hitters", and our various bongs of the times but nah...today its the path of least resistance. Regardless of the nay-sayers, too many who have never tried it, I won't say there is any effect on intelligence (as a constant) but what it does for creativity...WOW!!! Lex, if you and yours are ever Vegas way, let's do a smoke meet. Talk about "stuff", maybe play video games and perhaps you two will indulge me in my favorite game: rummaging through my costumes to find a character you'd like to play "photographic pretend" in. You're both GORGEOUS and the possible story lines are nearly infinite!
What would you like most in a partner?
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
Before anyone opens fire let me say my act lead is a business partner first, close friend second and anything beyond is icing. I also have "partners for a day" in models who have no time for the act but want to be a part of the photographic "mythos". While "Heff is my hero", I'm at that age where I can take a "take it or leave it" attitude towards sex...my primary drive is the art. So...all of the above except "financial security". We'll get it together soon enough. The clincher, of course, is 25 is pretty much the age limit, as is for the women I rarely "just date", these dates most often being an interview for the act itself or additional art. Call it "artistic arrested development" BUT there is an irresistible (thus, highly marketable) charm to a beautiful singing, dancing, acting lead...a duo to die, or at least drop a dime, for. I train them in musical theater and give them as much artistic freedom in character development and portrayal as possible I develop any so interested in modeling and, of the 50 or so I worked with, have lost many to the better opportunities offered them. The closest I've come to adding the third "romantic interest" was a disaster, with a well trained lead suddenly doing things "her way", so everything sounded the same without the characterizations we'd worked so hard on. Her boyfriend could neither play or sing very well and was far more interested in "managing" than learning... When I'm working with a lead in a professional capacity I usually have little time for other "relationships". Anyway, there you have "her"..."them". Still, for whatever places they've had in my life they each, in their own special way, are the loves of my life. Literally through the art we exchange "parts" of each other. @HeyHiHullo I profusely apologize for the lengthy post but moreso I thank you for the question! Though it's been asked of me several times I've never given it this introspection and exposition. Now let me copy this puppy for later use! Thanks again!
What are your thoughts on Hypnosis?
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
No, for most under hypnosis REM is usually absent, unless the subject is asked to visualize. It is *considered* to be a connection to the psyche. While "a quasi-religious trance" is usually self induced, hypnosis is probably used for such purposes. This is not to say in any way it has religious connotations. We're not sure (at least in my limited research) exactly what it is but its definitely not hogwash. I love Wiki... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnosis
I believe in the power of faith. I’m in sales I see first hand how people who do not have faith ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
Kind of like prayer but not really. I also envision the deal done before it begins and imagine the best steps to get there. I've heard it verbalized 1000 different ways by sales gurus and training managers. Not foolish in the least. Quite smart, really, and exceptionally insightful if you arrived at these conclusions yourself.
I thought we were supposed to be freethinkers. People who use logic and reason, people who discuss ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
PLEASE report these people and block them if they become too bothersome. We've actually had a lowered frequency of such attacks but they will happen. Still, they either clam, leave or get the boot. I, as many, have a lot of freethinking posts. I'll be looking for yours.
What's on my mind? Not Jesus's birth, but his death. It was prophesied many times in the Bible. ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
Cruci-fiction Contradictions? Try saying this title 5 times real fast. And this is just from the bible itself. There is literally nothing in history to support it, except the Romans crucified Jews. Lots of them. Neither left any trace of such an important event at the alleged time of its occurrence. Anyway, if you still go by the bull... ***Chronological contradictions in Jesus' crucifixion*** https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chronological_contradictions_in_Jesus%27 _crucifixion (You may have to copy and paste or google search the bold text.)
Legally Dealing With Christians That Troll
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
I moved. The "wholly" dirty south is generally no place for free thought.
Are you on a path or a journey?
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
Both. When I'm researching a specific concept or literally when I'm going to work I'm on a path. In both, I have a clear path to a somewhat certain destination. About the rest of my life, even at some stops along the paths, its a journey. If you need clarification of this from an artist, just ask. I can elaborate. Profusely.
How do you personify what you are rather than focusing on what you are not.
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
Fair warning. This is a site FOR antitheists. I have no need to focus on what I'm not, living my life as completely as possible and honoring what I've come to know as philosophical truths. Up to all respect due others and the powers that be, I'm a free man. hmmmm...possibly procrastination...but I'm usually enjoying it. Hope that was helpful.
Is marriage too connected with religion?
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
You can get a secular wedding of your own design almost anywhere in the country...except perhaps those areas which won't accept your online ordination (yes, ordained atheists can marry people) or just elope at your local justice of the peace and have whatever ceremony you want, or not. I'd still say, at least for a sad majority "amurcuns", yeah, its pretty well connected.
Has this forum helped anyone along the road towards agnosticism/atheism?
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
Good post. I was already a "well along" agnostic but I will say I've learned much more about it and a myriad of other subjects. I just don't get stimulated like this on fakebook.
Spanking
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
OH...that spanking...nevermind... Nope, but I'm not a parent so my opinion is nil.
Trading addictions, 12 steps for religion
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
They are all over the southeast and have never received the widespread attention of the "ungay camps". You have to find and usually pay well for them though. Still, "holey rollers" would be asked to desist or leave in the free and sponsored AA meetings, usually held in churches. Some would stay, some would leave. One such left crying, shouting "ya'll just don't know jehebus" as the door slammed. AA saved my life but I haven't been to a meeting in two years, several before it was merely to pick up a chip and share some "experience, strength and hope". I haven't been asked to leave yet but many don't like my "life after AA" message.
Which do you think has achieved more for society - Philosophy or Science.?. Which will help the ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 7, 2018:
Philosophy for us "commoners". I'll leave science to the scientists. If they come to a conclusion I'm even remotely interested in that is widely verifiable, I'm in. For everyone else, there is philosophy. Though it visits some scientific realms such as psychology and neurology, most everyone in their interactions every day operates on a largely philosophical level. The science of it is immaterial. Not to say its all a bed of roses. Philosophy is a bedfellow of theology, as well.
Could the Force Really Be With Us? »
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Loved the article! My concern as a "back slid" jedi is they referred to it as a theology. Oops...I just slid a little more! I am still working on a collection of their hymns for their imminent arrival. I hope they're not too pissed. ***May the Force...and Farce...be with You.*** https://agnostic.com/discussion/12084/hymns-of-jediism
Would Christianity be as popular if Jesus were portrayed more accurately?
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Oh, the ***sun*** must look pretty! Can't find it but there's...I think definitive evidence how we see jehebus today is as the son of a Roman ruler of the time, by decree inserted as the son of said local daddy god. k, who was passing around that video...or remembers the link?
There's 3 ways to log out. The best way is to click log out. That means you can log back in. The 1 ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Yeah, I'm fine with who I am originally. Thanks for the heads up!
Can you all deal with an atheist Nichiren Buddhist?
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
lol...you are so sooooo welcome! I borrow freely from buddhism as a person and an artist. Works for me, my way. Mileage may vary. Still, yes, you're going to fit right in!
It is my deepest belief we live in an age of doubt by choice. Most questions have right answers but ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Doubt is a choice for far too many, definitely, as well as faith, fear and hatred. Let's just hope enough of them open their eyes before their holy wars, pollution, social, ethical and economic irresponsibilities,...destroy us all.
Should this site add a chat feature?
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
I'm all for it. I suggested chat rooms, as well.
Frank Zappa: My Favorite Musical Atheist!
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
BRUCE BICKFORD'S WONDERFUL CLAY ANIMATION TO FRANK ZAPPA'S "DUKE OF PRUNES" Frank did considerable work with Bruce. This is one I missed myself but the visuals along with Frank's orchestration and screaming guitar are always treats to the senses! https://youtu.be/s7c03ObN2o4
Frank Zappa: My Favorite Musical Atheist!
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Frank Zappa - Titties and Beer Can we say "titties" here? Of all Zappa, my favorites are his ribald "tavern tales" with absolutely NO sexual "overtones"...well maybe, but since the entire song is about sex, strange insertions,...breasts. Anyway, here is a great fight with the devil to get some...mammary glands back. https://youtu.be/WzzWEeiUf3Y
We are living in an exciting time so much to learn and enjoy. I hope anyone who is struggling now ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
As a recovering alchie I can relate. Adapt, resist, overcome. Only some "earth people" understand...my bottom was as close to any definition of ***HELL*** I'll ever want to experience! I haven't been to a meeting in years but I still consider myself a friend of Bill and was damn glad they/you were there in my time of greatest need! So, yeah...Welcome!
I gave up religion on 12/25/1966 and never looked back. The moment is a story in itself. Confused...
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Or heaven. Your life is what you can and are willing and able to make of it. Finding "hell" in a few...thousand religions should be quite an experience for me. Though I quite doubt that will happen in a few...million other possibilities.
Okay. So I am not sure what to classify this pondering as. Since I joined here, I have noticed on ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
@Admin I really hate to call in the cavalry since you're a sapiosexual. Let us just say I lacked the technical aptitudes to avail your current afflictions. Hope that helped...on both counts!
Place to meet other Atheists/Agnostics? Would like to find a local community of non-theists.
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Don't forget searches in FB and your other social media for local groups and clubs. If there isn't and it wouldn't be too...awkward, create one!
Evangelicals
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Well, yeah. There are many European countries doing quite well with it and have been for some time. They are getting tired of the refugees we've been sending them a few years now with our holy war though. We just can't stop because its tied into our economy, too many are making too much profit from it, because too many are just happy we're killing *other* theists - never mind they both worship the same god. It may look bleak but I think our current "theocrats" are showing the world, and enough of us in the US, that their ways are a path to insanity and destruction.
What is considered the very first religion? Scientology is I think the last one.
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Hard to say. I imagine it began with an early man having a close encounter with a lightning strike, who then looked into the sky and thought *"wtf just happened?!?"* And yeah, religions (sects), churches, temples, mosques, synagogues (cults) are created every day, each cult moving further from its sect as time progresses.
I tell you this. The religious man thinks of his life in heaven. The metaphysical man uses science...
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Almost. You confuse "believe" with "consider the possibilities of", at least with this agnostic and metaphysical man. I really wish Buddha could answer you. I've had to make several "adjustments" to buddhism as a philosophy to better fit my own. A primary is this: I am everything, nothing ***and*** I am me. I've had those meditative nirvanas you speak of and I've had the excitement, the ecstasy, of thousands of other experiences. Most of these I was *channeling* creative elements of my own design...also everything...and nothing... It can be argued these were, are or could be universal experiences. Be that as it may, I experienced them and, to the best of my knowledge, I conceived then realized them. And Tantric Sex. Awesome! That I will take the time to cap!
Do you think God supports a sports team?
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
hehe...I'd like to do a poll for theist fans on this on!
Any "must see" documentary recommendations? I like everything from conspiracy to serial killers.
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
WOW!!! ME TOO!!! hmmmmm...so many... For me there is always *Ancient Aliens* to *Cold Case Files* on the tube. With *Zeitgeist* mentioned (a DEFINITE must see!) save this for another time...when you have a couple hours... *Christian Dilemmas - The Secret History of the Bible* https://youtu.be/_FXdMkFomBk
Do any of you have to consciously avoid religious topics or 'hide' when you are with members of your...
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Have to, no. Choose to, yes. My fundie family know all too well my beliefs and I will certainly be myself on those rare occasions I'm with them, with no need to discuss faith or facts. If we were to there may be fireworks, but then a few...thousand other topics usually do just as well...so...
MATH LESSON...... no groaning. ;-)
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Awwwwwwwwwww...but math is HAAAAAARD!!! None...not a single fuck was given that day.
What's your favorite movie that 'pokes fun' at religion?
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
So many have been mentioned and I have so many favorites...but my first thought was *Saved* before I even checked the comments. https://youtu.be/7fQcvO2zuEw
A United NonTheist Front on Agnostics.com
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
OK, who voted NO(!!!)? And was it just a NO or a NO!!!??? Seriously, unless it was in jest, I wouldn't even begin to ask why. @Admin Could we get back the "see who voted on polls" feature back, even if its just our own? Inquisitive...curious minds, y'know...
Religion and politics should not mix, says British public - National Secular Society
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Religion and politics should not mix, says any sane person. There is about the sum total of the level of "societal sanity" in our world today...almost... Vegas is cool but I'm still considering a move to Amsterdam.
Do you consider yourself an intellectual elite or just an intellectual?
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
I'm only an "intellectual elite" in the arts, and among mine there are very few "absolutes", even in the hues of a color. In general I consider myself an intellectual, but only as a true "knower of things" in limited and sadly decreasing areas. Like spelling. Recall the Roman pantheon? *bah* I'm even missspellling some 3rd grade words...and I can't always blame the sticky keyboard! So hopefully I'll "graduate" from *intellectual* to *wise, old sage*. Hell, I'll settle for *crazy but happily creative walking fossil*!
What mistakes have you seen people make that they turn around and blame on God?
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Every? And do we define "mistake" as something you actually intended not to do?
Do you ever lose an entire day? This is just a general commentary. Today I woke up and utterly ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
lol...HAVE I!!! I've lost several in alcoholic blackouts, often resulting in waking up on beaches it took some time to discover where I was, and then trying to find my car. Since then I've "lost" much more time in meditative and creative trances. In fact, you're describing what could be amongst my more meditative ones. It happens.
What is your take on having a "higher power"? Through my trials in life I had times where I ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Its only as "religious" as you let it...or need it to be. When I finally got sober (3/12/01, I was 42) I attended AA "religiously" ( like 3 "90 in 90s" ) and struggled to form a "Higher Power" of the many diverse possibilities I consider as the agnostic I've always been. I attended with the predominantly theists of upstate SC. It was at times difficult to separate their usual dogmatic drivel from the crumbs left behind that lead to spiritual recovery but I somehow managed. One such was "find a sponsor and, in looking, chose someone with something you want." I found him. strangely enough, in a very pious fundamentalist southern baptist, a grizzled old and very wise WWII vet. BUT, he had what I wanted. Peace, serenity, acceptance...and he dropped far more "crumbs" than most! When I approached him I thought it was hopeless at first, as he tried to lure me back into the fold. Then he said something that has been a core belief since: "You don't have to understand god, just understand he understands you". An epiphany, if you will, in that trying to "understand" the many theoretical HPs there may be lost all importance. Today, I don't even concern myself if there actually is one or not. I could go on and on about the "alternate realities" I often visit and create but you can see that on my profile all over the boards. In these and many other ways, we all have the "god potential" you so often hear of, though usually in a theistic context, in recovery meetings of all types all over the world.
Food for thought - ‘every story ever told happened’; somewhere, in mind or in history, all we ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Wow...another rambler...pleased to meet you! I have often considered bringing up the same Celtic conclusion but instead felt it was too much "fundie" atheist ammunition...I get enough flake, er flack, from them as is! Anyway, I salute you for having the nads to even make the statement...I'm not sure I'd have received the same sane and kind commentary you have...so far... I have created and often "live in" these realities, especially in times of their creation and completion. I am most "there" as I'm drifting off to sleep and often awaken, sometimes suddenly, with new events or concepts in mind from these "imaginary realities". So, to continue, I've spent much of my life a "starving (though striving!) artist". I'm actually happy to have had a stomach virus this week to escape part of my 40 hours of misery...but I'm also counting the costs of just making ends meet over the next several weeks. Let me tell you, greed is not just an xian phenomenon. I moved to "Sin City" in hopes of breaking into any of many entertainment fields I have experience in. For the most prestigious interviews I wore my best three piece (Sears) suit but in no way could "shine" like even the lowliest of their lowlifes. While we are talking about a money driven industry, are there any that aren't? That being said America in general, both theists and non, have become more greedy, self centered and disdainful of the poor over the past few decades. Still, we have always been a materialistic society, even as so many of us have to struggle for the "materials" of basic survival...I say in my comfy bedroom in front of my big screen TV close to my several expensive instruments... Still. as we watch the erosion of our core values, largely a result "poor" theists supporting politicians working against them, as are the "prosperity pastors"...yes, Houston, we have a problem! So yeah, I'm with you on this. In fact, it will be the subject of an upcoming post of my own!
Who here was never religious? I realize I'm in a minority here. But I'm curious just how few of ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
Never. My earliest recollection, stuck in my mind likely because it was my first experience with cognitive dissonance I could verbalize, was being told "buybull stories are true!" I was about three then. All I wanted to do is stay home and watch cartoons...the "stories" were much more entertaining and, even in the days when Tom & Jerry could mutilate each other ad infinitude, much less violent and hate filled.
My puppy, Monty, is 10 years old today ... He is the light of my life, the apple of my eye, & ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
HBD, Monty! Love the name...it was a common nickname of one of my favorite and best developed characters, Alexander Montahon.
What theories do religious people in your life present for your agnosticism/atheism?
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
hehe...how often GAWD is used to justify unethical behavior these days! Sin - Repent - Repeat till it doesn't "feel" like "sin" anymore...anyway, to answer your question... "but...its in the BUYBULL!!!" George Carlin has a great routine about this and it is the most often used "reasoning" I've heard by fundamentalist xians who immediately give away their "fully indoctrinated" status...those who believe the buybull is the source of all knowledge and wisdom. Even as a youthful agnostic that was a clear indication to end the discussion and get away as quickly as I could!
Do you like Christan music?
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
....so, I answered "yes", but moreso for the music itself than any messages the songs might impart. Still, I offer a suggestion. There are several secular sources for "inspirational" music. You might consider adding some of those, free of theist messages, to your listen list. If your "hard times" are ever in part caused by being different, this tune's for you! Here is a thread I started some time ago, with several great (and, as always, not so) responses from members who have added much "secular inspiration" in a world where if its considered "inspirational" its usually theist. The "cover song" is We Are The Others - Delain If any part of your "hard times" is about being different, this tune's for you! https://agnostic.com/discussion/2578/inspirational-antidepressant-songs-for-agnostics-atheists
Do you like Christan music?
DangerDave comments on Jan 6, 2018:
K, I'll have to "double dip" here, in that I enjoy (and have written) a LOT of different styles of music and, today, my appreciation of any of it may be very spiritual but always secular. I composed much xian music while "undercover" as a church music director. Still, I'll never reach the pinnacles of such "inspired" artists as Bach, Beethoven and Brahms. I went through the full spectrum of xian music those days. Heavy metal called more to me so, while their theist messages eluded me, I could appreciate the musicianship of such bands as Stryper and Lightforce. My then third fiance played Amy Grant incessantly and, when I wasn't annoyed by the repetition, I could be soothed by the music and, at times, the altruistic messages of her music. Anytime I hear her today, it is more often a nostalia of my fiance than anything else, though. I will always have a special place in my heart for bluegrass gospel in that I grew up with it and my grandad performed it. Still, if there is any single "pick me up" from xian music I have today without a secular alternative, its parody... https://youtu.be/oWqMaTYRcCA
Would you be willing to die for your beliefs?
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
What beliefs?
Hymns of Jediism
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
Any way the Force flows... Bohemian Rhapsody: Star Wars Edition https://youtu.be/oi7KPDi_yQI
Are there any creative writers in the group? I like to write short stories, and I struggle to keep ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
I added a couple tags for you! Definitely me. See my profile and pix for details!
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Should we be debating theists?
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
Though I voted "special circumstances", I'd rather discuss than debate, and then with an "unsure" theist or fence rider for whom my efforts just might make a difference.
Do you believe that we have souls? If so, can you answer why?
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
I HAVE soul but I'll NEVER be able to reach those hallowed levels of the late, great James Brown. ***HEH*** Seriously, I entertain several definitions of A "soul". I have experiences more in a creative, "spiritual" sense which makes any "everlasting" possibilities of little consequence.
Do you have to believe in God to be a fan of Satan?
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
No, any old god of enlightenment will do. Satan, Lucifer, Hades...all had historical predecessors, many one way or another for illuminating or educating humankind. I tend to be a fan of Hades, who taught Demeter (Zues' hisselfs ol' lady) the joys and sorrows, hence the summers and winters, of losing her greatest love, her daughter Persephone, in an...ummm...arranged marriage with a biannual visitation rights agreement. Anyway, you get my point...beware thee the fruit of the tree of knowledge though! That stuff will kill ya!!! OH, and your original question...I love heavy metal, especially female fronted symphonic (Delain, Amaranthe, In This Moment, etc, etc) and emulate them to a degree in my act. So are you an asshole? I just met you and we're cool so far.
What should one do when asked to tell the truth so help you god?
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
"SURE!!! Can we get this over with now?"
READY OR NOT, THE NEW TAX REFORM IS HERE!
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
It appears only right wing radicals believe the republithug rhetoric. I usually avoid arguments but I might just join the "pounce" on any supporters who'd dare identify themselves here.
THE OXYMORON OF AGNOSTIC A/THEISM: A PROPOSITION (modified due to post limit) This post is ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
The "either/or" choices you offer are quite limited. I know a lot about a myriad of subjects and I know some of it to be true. The rest are delegated to various levels of probability and...being a human with physical, social and very powerful creative needs (to the best of my knowledge, anyway)...priority. Gratefully, the "answers" to all these unknowns rank a VERY low priority for me. As far as the opposite extreme, the "all knowing" specialist in...what area? Astrophysics? Nuerobiologists? So these people have the answers now? They know the sum total of all there is to know in their fields...and enough in all the related fields that apply? Then why do they still constantly retest and contest each others' work? mmm...do we have anyone here with the multiple PhDs and amazing intellect here to provide all the "answers"? Then where have you been?!? The world needs you! While I rate it as a LOW probability, I don't even "know" I'm sitting here typing this. So for me, what I know is irrelevant. What I see as "reality" is an unimaginably large set of possibilities with greater of lesser probabilities...and among the lowest priorities in my daily life.
Can any religion that must be "taught" be representative of a "true god"?
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
AUTHOR'S NOTE: COMMENT *CIVILLY*...PLEASE DON'T LIKE! Atheists, get ready...you may not hear this from me often...but I really appreciate your (only caustic at times, from a minority, gratefully!) input in this poll. Far be this from "atheist bait" but bait instead for curious theists and fence riders. The agnostic discussion was a secondary, "entertainment value" objective, which as of yet hasn't happened. For the record, I voted "no" and I'd really like to hear from our so far solitary "either/or" voter!
How do you feel about people saying "I'm proud of my heritage", "I'm proud of being British", etc. ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
I've been both proud and ashamed...but mostly aware. America was a much different place decades back. Though "patriotism" was "taught" in secular public schools at least they were secular and a bastion for this (even then) agnostic from an otherwise fundamentalist theist community. But I grew up in the 60's witnessing the civil and women's rights movements. Through the 70's I saw these and other movements make a difference, rational and humanistic laws were being passed, the infrastructure was maintained and growing, the economy was booming and you could make a decent living at minimum wage, a wage only teenagers or the least employable needed to take. Yet, I realized America was the greatest country ever...stolen from its indigenous people. In school, I caught and hung on to the briefly stated and highly glossed over generations of our history: "my people's" genocide, slavery and intolerance of every new wave of immigrants. I say "my peoples" in that I am very likely among the ancestors of Irish potato famine immigrants. With a known family history of warriors, laborers and yes, alcoholics I am indeed of a stereotypical Irish/Celtic heritage, before and after the Roman catholic genocide, enslavement and assimilation. While I will never "forgive" my ancestors for sacking Rome five times and not occupying it, hence preventing the start of the most destructive religion(s) to ever plague mankind, I don't dwell on it as surely as I don't swell with pride every time I think of their formidable contributions to the arts and science. I won't even start on my Cherokee DNA but, as I studied ( as a young "layman" ) the cultures and mythologies of many races, these I felt were more relevant to me. In the end, more than being proud or ashamed of my heritage, I am aware. We do have cultural differences and the only way to fully understand them is to take a long, critical look at the past... My half Cherokee grandfather retained something of that heritage and their beliefs. He was the only member in my family who didn't detest the fact I was agnostic. Sorry for the lengthy response but I do have to add a private discussion with him when I was refusing to go to church. "Talk with him," our theist women demanded of grandad, so he took me out side. "What do you hear?" "Birds?" "Yes, are the birds going to church?" "NO!!!" (I thought he was going to help in my escape!!!) "Because they know the 'great spirit' (nature as an entity) as people cannot. Like our women, some people need to know and even pretend to know. You are different but hold that in your heart and appease the women. It will only change what you believe if you allow it." Disappointed that I still was being told to go to church, that is one of many times I ...
Favorite marijuana strain?
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
Does ganja count?
What would a global political system look like?
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
Look at the current contenders, including a Trump led "free world". The wishes for a "world order" from every theist camp. After considering these most dystopian systems consider the range to our most utopian. I lean toward a social democracy but that's only as "perfect" as the people leading it, as in any political system. From a sci-fi perspective, both the Empire and the Rebels considered their planetary ruling system to be "best".
Godless Vagina
DangerDave comments on Jan 5, 2018:
What a statement! Now just to convince the bureaucrats, lawyers, doctors,... Not having a vagina let me tell you about my godless penis...but...nevermind...
Has anyone considered.....
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
I haven't but this guy has... https://youtu.be/DraaPbsYmJI
A Priori Axioms to answer life's big questions. What is the basis of existance? What is reality? ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
Are you like, starting a religion or something? You really lost me at your first very arguable "axiom". "1) Reality can only come into being the most simple way possible. (It can not take any extra steps)" Sometimes "reality" takes several steps, such as me typing this sentence. I would ask you to elaborate on definitions and meanings, but I won't...because you just might.
What if the thoughts never stops? Question chasing question... Do not feel like I'm part of the ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
Methinks thee think too much. Calm down, take a breath and watch a comedy. Even better, do something you enjoy doing. And if it helps at all, you're already living in chaos. Get used to it because in this world guess what you get after the chaos? Yes, more chaos. I've battled possibilities as a younger man as you are now but never for long...I stayed busy with other things including, ironically, *using* these possibilities to create my art. Still, let the greater need to deal with "what is" take primary importance over "what may be". Then, the "may be's" won't seem so bothersome.
Should people that disagree with science be allowed to use advanced technology created by scientific...
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
I'd like to see someone trying to confiscate THEIR cell phones! Still, it'd be awesome if we could though, and just drop them in the woods to build log cabins and hunt with bows and arrows!
Do you serve a purpose or purposely serve?
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
I'm in that starving artist mode again where I must purposely serve...to survive to serve the purpose of my art. Too bad there is no "middle road" option!
I was accused of being the Antichrist since I don't believe in God. I don't think Jesus existed ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
Wow. I only ever rated "demon". You accuser probably thinks it's the "gospel truth" but there is a mind I really don't want to "rummage around in" for long.
Is modern dating any different from the definition of polyamory?
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
I'm different than most but "dating" and "polyamory" are nearly synonymous for me. I usually only date the models and *Treasures* (my act leads) I work with. Usually the relationships are platonic but each is a "love of my life"...in co-creating our art we form bonds most "mortals" can't begin to comprehend.
A Tale of Tales from the Last Inn
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
*Tales' 'Toons* are "photographic novella" sets I do for some of my act leads and several successful models who just want the 'toons or other art. Sometimes sexy. sometimes silly, sometimes scary...these shorts were inspired by such diverse artists as those involved in the creation of Heavy Metal (mag more than movies), The Twilight Zone, Benny Hill... My main labor of the day was finally finishing Toki's first Tale, "My Demon Lover". You can see it in its entirety in my profile photos and the *Tales from the Last Inn* FB page. The introduction there... Ready for a story, kiddies? Yes, it has been awhile! Toki's first Tale is a strange little romp into the unreal, a rendezvous with the unknown...or perhaps just the unknown to you...
What motivates you to get out of bed in the morning?
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
Not my job! hehe, I was actually happy to be sick today! Here is in part is what gets me up every day...and kept me up this morning. I've been working on a lot of art for Toki, my newest Tales' Treasure hopeful. Before that, at my normal "get up" time 6 AM, I was compelled to start this: https://agnostic.com/discussion/12709/a-tale-of-tales-from-the-last-inn (I'm still considering what to do with the Uni...have any costumes?)
G'Day, Kia ora, and welcome, new members! The membership base of the site appears to be growing ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
Excellent post and I couldn't agree more! Welcome newb...newcomers! We don't bite...much!
Self-awareness not unique to mankind
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
No arguments here on all points.
A Tale of Tales from the Last Inn
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
Another "origin" Tale is of me, the self same 15yo geek, proudly carrying his first boxed D&D set home to soon be the sage of the neighborhood! I was soon "outside the box" creating new realities to explore, puzzles to solve, challenges to overcome. The most enduring of these was what became a four "real" year campaign. The players went from youthful neophytes who could barely lift a sword to 50th level vets who challenged the gods themselves. Here is the synopsis of the entire story, written as a "theoretical theology" a mother would read her children to sleep with... https://agnostic.com/user/DangerDave#gallery-50 https://agnostic.com/user/DangerDave#gallery-51
I know of no wars started by anyone to impose lack of religion on someone else. We have lethal Sunni...
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
I can only think of examples where an atheistic state declared itself a "deity": an all encompassing source of all "truth", giver of all gifts and bestower of all punishments. Cold war communist Russia and China are recent examples. I find dangers in any strict ideology, which is a primary reason I'm a happy agnostic!
I was thinking about 'no capital punishment' in my line of don't be a hypocrite killing people ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
I like to consider capital punishment reserved for those you mentioned, and others whose ideologies are a clear and present danger to others (sociopaths, warmongers, climate change deniers, those who "prophet" to them and profit from them, etc, etc). At the same time I know most of these feel the same about me and, if I had the power to so condemn these people, I wouldn't. As costly as it would be, life imprisonment perhaps...
In the few hours I have spent on this site, I have found some of THE most insightful ideas and ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
aawwww, shucks! Welcome, greetings, merry met and all that. We're a diverse lot but you'll find your community soon enough, if you're active. See you on the boards!
Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
Alas, the seeds of sectarianism is planted in the CotFSM too. The same has happened to jediism. The first I encountered which started my decline of interest was the "requirement" of some that jedis must...MUST...regularly train in martial arts. Since, its split into so many sects I have no idea from which I got my ordination, nor do I really care. If the same happens to dudeism I'll really be pissed!
Unintended condescension: what's your best example?
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
"Good for you." Imagine the possibilities!
A Tale of Tales from the Last Inn
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
My favorite Tales are those spontaneously inspired by Treasures. These are generally stand alone Tales which can often be "inserted" into longer Tales as side stories or examples of a given topic. The topic here is a recurring theme in my art I call "theoretical theology". Paige was a timid, untrained "one day Treasure" who I am quite certain was a theist. She was entirely taken aback by the act, having the daunting task of performing while training. She told me that day Tales would be too much for her, and I had to agree. Still, she left me some wonderful memories and this Tale of the "Fallen Angel", her chosen character of the day.
A Tale of Tales from the Last Inn
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
"A" "finale". Yes, the photography is mine too. Though my "multidisciplinary" approach to the arts may make them all suffer, I can't help it. Its what I do. Yes, I wrote the lyrics and main themes at 15 though it has been through many revisions since. My "muse" was a sweet wiccan, Nancy (pictured is Amber I, I hadn't taken up photography yet), who, with her coven, were "followers" of, and at times dancers in, my earliest heavy metal acts. When I first saw the movie "The Craft" I was hit by an overwhelming feeling of nostalgia, though "our" witches weren't nearly as malicious...or successful. This end is possibly a new beginning. Our vampire who has struggled for centuries to maintain her humanity finally decides its ok to bite bad guys. What happens after...
Which religion do you think is the most damaging to the world and why?
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
I have to hands down give this dubious honor to xianity, at least as far as kill counts and obliterated cultures go, in recorded history.
The fact that there are more women joining this site gives me hope. I live in the Bible belt, and ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 4, 2018:
Dude...get out!!! Having lived in Spartanburg (roughly 95-00, finding my best job prospect there to be close to family in Greenville and Greer) , I feel your pain. I was in the "heavy metal community" though. Where ever it is regularly played there are plenty of nontheist women, or at least those who are more ambivalent towards religion. The UU church attracts these as well...I just didn't really care for their general "all religions are real...in a way" mentality. Pagans and others who disagree do attend though. Sadly, women...and men...are the way they are there because of generations of indoctrination. There are definitely better places you could be!
The Eternal Return : Will we re-live this life?
DangerDave comments on Jan 3, 2018:
I'm more of the mind it never really stops. We as sentient beings of limited intellectual potential are locked in what can only be perceived as linear time. "At some time" each moment still exists. How many times have I said this already? Anyway, now let's talk about alternate realities...
In your opinion, is natural selection the best way to improve a species?
DangerDave comments on Jan 3, 2018:
I could have done better. Like moving the sewer further from the playground, just as a for instance.
So atheist or agnostic men don't shave, huh?
DangerDave comments on Jan 3, 2018:
I have epidermal lupus which is aggravated by shaving so I'd probably have a full beard even as a ( "god forbid!!!" ) theist. Besides, what @Hominid said...they make us seem all worldly and wordy and knowledgeable and stuff.
Marijuana for recreational or medicinal? Dont be shy?
DangerDave comments on Jan 3, 2018:
Both. Sativa for creativity, partying and "pondering"; indica for aches and pains of several varieties. And LEGALLY people!!! LEG-AL-LY!!! Just one small bonus for moving out of the "dietied" south!
Is anyone else on here part of the LGBT community? I've posted before, but I'm Lexie and I'm new ...
DangerDave comments on Jan 3, 2018:
Is a supporter a "part of"? If so, I'm in! Its all about civil liberties for me...and what you do in private with a consenting adult "whom" is neither my business nor my concern...unless I'm invited!
Aren't we all agnostic?
DangerDave comments on Jan 3, 2018:
I personally delineate between those who "believe" and those who "know". On either side of the spectrum, the "knowers" of the unknown present a "special" set of...variables. Yeah, "variables". Good, politically correct word to use there. "Special" too.
Best Friend Defends Islam, Bashes Christianity.
DangerDave comments on Jan 3, 2018:
I'm often saddened by losing theist friends because of their ideology but I'd much rather lose them than deal with the friction they can cause in the most casual of moments. If you're brave enough and feel its either worth the risk or if the friendship is doomed anyway try sharing the Skeptics Annotated Quran with her. http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm
Are You An Atheist, An Agnostic, Or A Believer? - Quiz - Quizony.com
DangerDave comments on Jan 3, 2018:
@Admin there we go...I din't get a complete url copy. So there goes my "perfectness cred" out the window...oh well!

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