I'm interested to know if former Christians here began doubting because of particular doctrines like...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 12, 2019:

People try their best even today to prove a "virgin birth" and do so scientifically. This usually has some sort of religious background flavor to it so we can think of the bible as we read these reports. The sad thing is that studies of history show many such birth claims in the past. It's not just Jesus, folks. Being born of a virgin was once a very popular claim as if it was important to god beliefs everywhere. We should all know that the workings of biology is a sin and North Koreans know that Kim does not crap.

Dealing with praying?

DenoPenno comments on Dec 12, 2019:

These days I do not bow my head and I deliberately look around. I simply do not believe the person praying. I do not believe them at all. To me a prayer over food asking it to be used "for the nourishment of your body" is totally ignorant until you put yourself in a world with no refrigeration and sometimes little food. Once this is understood it makes more sense to me, but not to people today. Now I will go on into praying in general. I do not believe people who say they "are praying for you." I do not believe George and Laura Bush, politicians in general, nor do I believe Pelosi is praying for Trump. I don't believe churches or their pastors or anybody else that makes such a ridiculous claim. Saul of Tarsus got it all going when they used "prayer clothes" to pray for others remotely because everyone could not be present to do so. In modern times bags of mail are brought in and everyone prays over them that "god will meet their needs." This is insanity. We might as well throw money up into the air and let god catch all that he can. No, I do not believe you when you are praying for me. In one way or another you are simply putting on a big show.

I figured that I would share my favorite questions that melt brains and/or just end conversation ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 12, 2019:

For me to even remotely try to identify with this I have to play a game. This is because there is no god and I do not randomly think along lines of there being one.

Do you think that " I have found god" should mean the same as "A get out of Gaol/Jail free" card.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 11, 2019:

It is all false. The thing is most people will think it is genuine at least for awhile. This is all false too in my experience because if a person changes faiths it usually involves a marriage and a new sex partner. These changes have very little to do with a god at all and everything to do with getting along with others in the world. The bottom line is that you never know what is going on inside a person's head and we all play these sort of games. For those who "find god" in prison for example, where else were they going to go? You must also ask yourself if this type of admittal will affect a parole board decision. Often it does and we are back to playing this same old type of game again.

Lily Tomlin Born Mary Jean Tomlin in Detroit, Michigan in 1939.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 10, 2019:

I always liked her.

This is GREAT! Houston police chief hits out at politicians and NRA after officer death ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 10, 2019:

I agree with that man's every word. Those that do not appear to me as wanting to spread bipartisan hate in order to achieve their own agenda. It's time to wake up.

God belief and religion are not synonymous.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 10, 2019:

In my early church days ministers used to argue that your god and religion could be your wife, your car, or your money.

Despite my being an atheist, I still like Christmas.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 10, 2019:

I can agree with this. My memories of Christmas go back to another time when we were carefree and the music was so wonderful. I was a child or a young teen and had a feeling of awe about this time of year and the feeling had to do with people and festivities. As the song said, it was the most wonderful time of year. When I had those feelings it had nothing to do with religion at all really. Living alone today and seeing what this has all become makes me cringe and just want to get through it. When everyone has to have more, the best and the most, the biggest and most envious, etc. I find no "spirit" in my old holiday. If I hear Christmas music I would want the trusted songs of the 1940's mostly. BTW, Fox News and Bill O'Reilly, Bing Crosby sang "Happy Holidays" back in 1942. The real "war on Christmas" came about by todays greed and not by who could or could not say certain words.

Christian Youth Minister: We Need to Tell More Kids They’ll Be Tortured in Hell | Hemant Mehta | ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 10, 2019:

As Greg Steir tries to rationalize scaring kids into religion his "logic" reverts back to kids being coddled today. Perhaps his mind goes into songs like "Old Time Religion" where these ideas were good enough for our fathers and their fathers. It is only a suggestion. We may never know his thinking before, but you cannot scare people into religion. Believing something for centuries does not make it right nor make it true. I might try to scare you into not walking in front of a car if there was any valid reason to do so. One difference here in his "logic" is that cars are real and not imaginary. Most people do not deliberately walk in front of moving vehicles. Invalid argument.

Alright, alright! Everybody has a bitch! Tell me - what have you done to further the age of ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 9, 2019:

The age of understanding that I have been enlightened. It took long enough.

In a previous video featuring this same guy that was posted here earlier in the week, he claimed ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 9, 2019:

It would not matter what he claimed. What would matter is the validity of his claims.

Okay here is 'modernish' take off on the Genealogy of the Jesus myth, try to find WHO are the real ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 9, 2019:

WTF?

Why???"!!!!!!!

DenoPenno comments on Dec 8, 2019:

When you lust for greed and power you get it any way you can.

I have to just say that I so much admire the strength that it must take to deal with, day in and day...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 7, 2019:

It has been a long journey. Today I am non-delusional.

The Prohibition Museum in Savanah, GA, is celebrating the 86th aniversary of the repeal of ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 7, 2019:

I could hide there for a long time. :)

What are your objections to the fine tuning argument for the existence of god

DenoPenno comments on Dec 7, 2019:

I bought a new car once and after I got it home and fine tuned it for a while it ran really well.

My agnostic husband and deeply religious father started having a debate about whether or not God is ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 7, 2019:

neither your agnostic husband or religious father are being logical.

'What Cruelty Looks Like': Trump Finalizes Plan to Strip Food Aid From 750,000 Low-Income People by ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 6, 2019:

When Trump claims that low income people can keep EBT and other needed benefits but they have to "work 20 hours a week" then the Administration should provide these people with the work that they should be doing. Otherwise it is just another Food Aid scam. A solution that only creates more problems and starves a lot of people.

Does stating your belief either for or against a deity matter?

DenoPenno comments on Dec 6, 2019:

OK, you caught me. I do believe in Casper and he lives in my shoe.

The Wizard of Odd.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 6, 2019:

He is evil so we must beware.

MO Attorney General: It’s Okay for Football Coaches to Push Christianity on Kids | Hemant Mehta | ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 6, 2019:

The only problem is that it is not OK. Maybe we can end up suing god if a kid dies over a sports injury. WTF?

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DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2019:

I simply do not like the "church tag" put on things. In fact, look backwards into bible days and try to imagine a "church" if you will. People of like mind met up but the term "church" must have came out of 1611 or earlier so ones reading the scripture would have an idea of what it meant. What was a church over 2000 years ago. Chances are it is not remotely close to what we think one is today.

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DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2019:

Creation, big bang, science of the bible. I am ahead of many of you on these things. God revealed himself to me not so long ago and took me back in time. I learned a lot and actually got to meet the first disease germ, but I forgot his name.

An Incredible Interactive Chart of Biblical Contradictions | Hemant Mehta | Friendly Atheist | ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2019:

When you study the Buybull all this stuff will come out.

Trump does NATO...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2019:

I sent every pic to Wisconsin where they will be spread around again and viewed by others.

A family member of mine is now into Hinduism.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2019:

What I know is that it is another religion. It is another "ism." I'm not sure why people keep insisting "there still could be a god" as if they think they are missing out on something or maybe they have on the wrong clothes. I might also be a monkey's uncle, - but maybe not.

In all of my travels, I have come to the realization that EVERYTHING wants some sort of hedonistic ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 4, 2019:

"Do whatever thou wilst."

Maybe it's just me, but when I see a post wherein someone points out a fallacy in ideas of god I ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 4, 2019:

I pity the fools also but believers I know still think and hope that someday I will come back. I suppose they believe it when I said I was angry at god for not bringing me a pony.

A history lesson : : the consequences of immigration and the self destruction of culture : : : and ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2019:

Every now and again people ask me how I'm going to feel when the black man outnumbers the whites in America. I admit I haven't given a lot of thought to this but I can imagine I will feel pretty much the same way as I feel now. BTW, white is not a race and there are no white men. I've never seen one. Black is also another color (not a race) and there are no black men. If our earth is compared to a box of crayons all of us will be the colors inside of it. Colors may turn up in any order inside the crayon box.

I have had an odd notion for awhile now.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2019:

I don't think we can make them do anything.

Hi all.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2019:

Very well done. The believer is stuck making claims that he cannot know at all. This is exactly what they do. When you point this out they say that you "not knowing" is just not good enough. Why? It's because they do know. LMAO here.

This is a video about how to make the Atheist community more inclusive, add your ideas below.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2019:

I love Jaclyn Glenn. I like to hear her sing.

I came across something regarding the Westboro Baptist Church.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2019:

God hates fags because he used to be one. Then, one day while burning and savoring some meat he discovered the error of his ways. He did not want to die totally so he only killed his son, Caesar Crisp. :)

Canadian Family Kept Dead Father’s Corpse in Bedroom for Six Months in Hopes God Would Resurrect ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2019:

Incredible, but let's explore another possibility. By doing this and not admitting he was dead could they draw or continue to draw certain money? Then, later to get out of the fraud they might claim a religious belief.

If there were a supreme being who was all-powerful, who could create worlds, and the universe, I ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2019:

I remember times in my life that my religious failings had me crying like a baby. Gradually I got stronger and saw that this was all a cruel joke played upon human kind. All the gods were false. No gods are trying to talk to you or tell you anything. Mankind is being played. My key to understanding it all is to study the bible. Learn when, where, and how it all came into being as we know it. Understand that others before that time knew nothing of it, - only parts. Infallible words of a creator god become a flawed mess put into a supposed story line of existence that never happened. Other religions upon examination follow a similar line. It is all myth.

Anyone here experience this internal conflict?

DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2019:

I don't worry about it much. If any of them are too concerned with saving me I will stop talking to them so much. Also, keep in mind that couples have been broken up because the believer is almost in tears knowing that the loved one might die and be taken to an unknown place and punished forever for not following an invisible man who lives in the sky. This is what extreme religion does when we all should just be living our lives.

Atheist/Agnostic

DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2019:

It was a gradual change until one day not believing was the only thing that fit.

It isn’t just about Santa. People hold onto childish beliefs for way too long I think.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2019:

Funny, but I agree. I'm also seeing post on Facebook right now by grown relatives in their 50's who say Jesus is the reason for Christmas. Apparently they have never examined any facts.

David Silverman is live on Facebook for Secular Alliance, Atheist Alliance Internaional's and ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2019:

I like Silverman's mind take on atheism but he sure went wrong on the sexuality part with his exposure and job loss do to some totally stupid sexual activity that came out of hiding. The best I can say is that he wasn't thinking. Of course, neither were the women involved. Exact details can be looked up. As for certain take aways that I got from this venture here they are with my answers: I'm going to spit in your mouth - like hell you are. You can't say "no" to me - the hell I can't. Think of a good safe word - how about "stop" we are not going to do this. I'm aware that playing doctor and nurse as a kid evolved into lots of silly sexual games as seemingly adults, but not much of this bullshit interests me. Some people have needs that go a bit too far.

Atheist/Agnostic

DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2019:

Not very much. Everyone wants to get technical and start this up again, but I am an Agnostic Atheist. Why do I tell you this? It is because neither side of the god argument can produce proof and the ones making the claims have the burden of proof.

Do people who hate religion do it because of their Atheism or Agnosticism or because of their ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2019:

Religion was a big waste of my time but without it I would not be where I am today as a logical freethinker. You might say I hate religion and I find very little to discuss really. The bible proves nothing and it finally came together as we know it today some 300 years after the time of Jesus. Manipulated by Paul and Constantine, what sort of "authority" does this book have? In my mind, none! This does not stop people from saying "there still could be a god." OK, which god and what exactly do you mean? Why are you needing and wanting a god? There could be a teapot orbiting around Venus or pixies living in my shoes but I highly doubt it.

I caught my mom with Parkinson's watching some religious show where they were "healing people with ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2019:

Be calm but watchful. My step-dad used to smoke like a chimney and say all the "praise gods" he could while watching Jimmy Swaggart all the time. He also thought that god would heal mom of cancer of the pancreas. Common sense goes out the window when you get older. I'm 73 and cannot imagine myself like this in another 10 years or so. I don't think mine will come that way. According to my insurance lady her mother was sending money to every politician or religious group that asked for it. The woman took it all upon herself as her duty. It's no wonder that she had to be stopped by getting a durable power of attorney over her. Otherwise there would have been no money left for the bills. If your situation gets to that point make sure the POA is "durable." A good attorney will know what you mean, and this is what we did with my step-dad in the end also. He's now in the nursing home.

Kanye says he may legally change his name to 'Christian Genius Billionaire Kanye West'

DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2019:

I think he was inspired by the Orange Turd.

Do you think it is about ABB?

DenoPenno comments on Dec 1, 2019:

Bloomberg is supposed to be the distraction to draw away from Trump and is spending millions on it but will it work out that way? It could backfire. Most of the Dem candidates have already shot themselves in the foot or the head. Why would I vote for you if you are going to take things away? Then we have news of Obama saying he will be against anything too radical from the DNC but this supposedly goes back to 2015. It meant that Obama was not for Bernie but was really for Hillary. That was then, this is now, but Hillary even says she is thinking of running again as an Independent. Good luck with that. I'm not happy with any of it but I see this as driving Trump right back for 4 more years. At the end of that time I see that he may not want to leave.

Just heard that tRump announced that "some people" (?

DenoPenno comments on Dec 1, 2019:

So now Trump saved "Merry Christmas?" I thought that was Bill O'Reilly. ("The tide goes in and out but nobody knows why") Just to be sure I hope everyone had a Merry Thanksgiving. Big Crosby sang "Happy Holidays " in a movie back in 1942. Sorry Bill and Donnie. Nice try. Honorable mentions might be: Indigenous People Day Indian and Pilgrim Eating Day Flip The Bird Nobody Is Thankful No More

Why god created Atheists?

DenoPenno comments on Dec 1, 2019:

I don't believe that gods created anything. People want to use creation to explain the "chicken or egg" mystery. What I want to know is the name of the first disease germ.

freshly minted ex-facebooger: I just deactivated my Facebook account.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 1, 2019:

Sorry you had such a bad Facebook experience. I'm still there as an activist and have had bad algorithm experiences but I learned how to deal with them. I have programs to beat most all pop-ups and had to turn off "following" for some I know who support the guy with the fake orange tan and fake hair. The fact that you recognize someone should not mean you are following them. FB wants as much reaction as they can get. I only post likes to memes that support my political beliefs and add words often to cause others to think. This does work because I have seen many of my words and phrases come back to me later through others. This tells me I am doing a good job without doing any town hall type public speaking. Please post and discuss here. Say anything you like. Understand that I will not start hating you unless you have fake hair and a fake tan. Hate is a strong word. :)

What do you think about 'intuition?

DenoPenno comments on Dec 1, 2019:

Intuition is a feeling based mostly on past experiences in which you have added your logical views. It varies in many of us because our logic also varies, but a lot of intuition is based also upon repetition. I make jokes on how the phone rang and I immediately thought "this has happened before" but similar things have a lot to do with how we think. Sometimes the inner mechanism is hidden from us. As a teenager I had a girlfriend that I felt so close to and I could tell through intuition if she was in town that day. I would go to town and there she was babysitting for family. Since I wanted this to happen I saw my intuition as something supernatural or a "power" that I had. Needless to say I only remember the times she was there in town. I do not recall making the trip to find she was not there that day. In similar fashion if intuition was truly real I would have won the lottery by now. True believers say this has not happened because you cannot "use your power" for gain. WTF? This worked with my girlfriend visits. Well, most of the time. :)

Or the fact that Adam and Eve were the first but Cain and Able had wives.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 1, 2019:

It is based on incest and is all a part of god's plan. God was once so upset with sinful mankind that he decided to destroy them all and drown everyone except for 8 people. In his great wisdom this left it all open to once again populating the earth by incest. Just leave it to god.

A FRAGMENT OF CHRIST’s MANGER IS BACK IN THE HOLY LAND! HOW DESPERATE ARE CHRISTIANS FOR ...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 1, 2019:

You are totally correct. In fact, the crucifixion and resurrection is an attempt to explain why Jesus died. Either they had to give it all up at his death or change directions. If Jesus had lineage trough Joseph to David and other patriarchs he could only have become supernatural and a son of god at his death. We can thank Saul of Tarsus for a lot of this. Keep in mind that the faithful have always had relics. Constantine's mother had several original nails from the cross. She wanted her son to use them for his protection. (There must have been a lot of nails. LOL) Then we have the bones of Elisha in the OT that actually brought a man back to life. (It is not clear if he had to die again later or not.) We should find those bones and they could be used by modern hospitals. The ever ongoing search for Noah's Ark seems to always crop up into this insanity as if wooden boat relics on a mountain would prove anything. We have no relic of the Jesus manger or tomb but these and others keep popping up to reinforce that it might be true, or could be true. I view the produced evidence as just the opposite.

Christian Zealot Beheads Girlfriend Because She Refused To Repent | Michael Stone

DenoPenno comments on Nov 30, 2019:

Repent from what? That is always the big question.

Ah, we're all just a bunch of fuck ups.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 30, 2019:

One reason that we all fuck up is the fact that we are always doing the same things all the time. If I eat and drink coffee I can know that I did the same thing yesterday. It's true. Then if my phone rings I say "this has happened before." Repeated wrong info fucks you up. :)

Someone thinks like me......LOL

DenoPenno comments on Nov 29, 2019:

That sounds great. :)

Who knows what Easter will bring.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 29, 2019:

This is priceless.

Rather a long watch but this may be worth your time. [youtube.com]

DenoPenno comments on Nov 29, 2019:

Quit, Bro. Go. I'm following the meme where Obama is explaining this to Trump.

somebody in the military get rid of this imbecile! [msn.com]

DenoPenno comments on Nov 29, 2019:

"somebody in the military get rid of this imbecile! " I think he might be aware of it. That's why he made the secret trip in the first place. He has to keep our military as an ally.

A path to whittling away religious power.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 29, 2019:

I agree with your every word, but the greater question is how do we stop them? How could anyone ever make this stop? IDK. Possibly prison terms if it is ever found out that you indoctrinated a child this way. This would also be tricky and could backfire and be used a wrong way.

Rian Johnson Talks Surviving “Last Jedi” Hate

DenoPenno comments on Nov 29, 2019:

Hmmm. I was thinking of "The Return of Jed's Eye." It was an old western where someone had stolen Jed's eye and was using it as a marble. As for the "Star Wars" series I'm about done. They just keep things going on forever.

Worry about hells?

DenoPenno comments on Nov 29, 2019:

Hell is the last thing on my mind. The idea is laughable really.

I posted a couple of days ago about my Thanksgiving dinner guest list including my evangelical ...

DenoPenno comments on Nov 29, 2019:

I'm glad it all went so well. :)

Correcting Others Make You Look Bad

DenoPenno comments on Nov 28, 2019:

Your p.s. explains it all. You just did not like this somebitch! :)

I’m Not ‘Blessed.’ I’m An Atheist And I Don’t Need God To Give Thanks Or Show Gratitude

DenoPenno comments on Nov 28, 2019:

I'm so blessed that my pizza had too hard of a crust today. Next time I will know more about how to place the rack and get better at what I am doing.

The ‘Whistleblower’ and the Politicization of Intelligence The whistleblower complaint has ...

DenoPenno comments on Nov 28, 2019:

Trump supporters need to understand that everyone is lying. Trump is doing a good job and he is draining the swamp. He is busy constantly to prove that everyone before him was a crook and they all should be removed or sent to prison in many cases. We should not be surprised if Trump declares a "fake election" or even after 8 years refuses to leave. What is going on is that he is continuing his draining of the swamp and will continue to have great numbers and a good report for us all. Many do not believe the above. I say if we do not wake up it is a real possibility.

Just told a relative the grown-up equivalent of “If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say ...

DenoPenno comments on Nov 28, 2019:

I talk constantly but I hate texting. In FB messenger recently I was talking with a big-time conservative and we both came across as brothers who do not have the same beliefs. I can respect him for this and everyone should do it. Enough name calling.

MERRY THANKSGIVING to everybody.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 28, 2019:

This sums a lot of it up for Thanksgiving too.

Happy Holidays - not Trash-the-Planet month! [monbiot.com]

DenoPenno comments on Nov 28, 2019:

We should clean up our own trash. Merry Thanksgiving to you. :)

Would you rather be in love or have someone be in love with you?

DenoPenno comments on Nov 27, 2019:

Sometimes people drift in different directions. If it happens to you and you see no way out just let it go. Otherwise someone is going to become a statistic. You cannot force love or togetherness.

My wonderful and sweet dad drove me to work because my car battery died.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 27, 2019:

I understand you on this. Your parents likely never will so just find ways around this type of indoctrinal talk without making everyone upset. A woman I know once asked me "how I thought it would all play out." She is talking "end times" and about writings in the book of Revelation. What she may not know is that the book barely made it into the bible and it was also not the only book of its type that was considered. So much for bible accuracy.

What if the Devil invented Jesus?

DenoPenno comments on Nov 26, 2019:

Gods are not logical. I have found most of the major flaws of the book and Jesus and the Devil come out of the same book. It means I cannot use this argument. It is Peter Pan or Captain Hook.

Tainted Data Can Teach Algorithms The Wrong Lessons [wired.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 26, 2019:

AI may change our ethics and certainly should change our politics.

Guilt: the gift that keeps on giving.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 26, 2019:

It's not my fault Gro didn't give me her new phone number. The above is the bottom line on this. Stop feeling guilty.

Why oh Why, in the name of all things Sci-Fi & Geeky, are there not more episodes of Firefly!!! Damn...

DenoPenno comments on Nov 26, 2019:

Firefly looked good to me. I'm about ready to stop watching a lot of shows because of the "Reality TV type" drama they are using. I do not need this or stress of any kind. Good Sci-Fi and thrillers do not need this.

So.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 26, 2019:

If it was real something about it would have been done differently. Maybe a PCH van at your door for publicity. I keep getting phone calls that my social security number has been revoked due to suspicious activity. They wold love to confirm my info and give me a new number. Then there are those callers who want to reward me for using my credit cards. I'm sure that before that one is over they will be using your credit cards.

Most common/ridicuous argumento pro religion?

DenoPenno comments on Nov 26, 2019:

Everyone knows there is a god because the bible tells us so. God has so many names and that is the real reason there are so many religions. Someday we will have the whole truth.

How corporate America invented ‘Christian America’ to fight the New Deal

DenoPenno comments on Nov 26, 2019:

God does not live in the White House. I think we need a New Deal.

Whether my heart bleeds as a liberal or not, I sometimes listen to the Dave Weinbaum Show on local ...

DenoPenno comments on Nov 26, 2019:

I've done a little research on this issue myself since I originally posted. It seems that originally there was 2 sites posting this information. They have went away to be replaced by 2 media posts repeating almost the same thing. Keep in mind that we are targeting the most fearful with fear-based messages and lies. The Trump Administration will continue to do this in many other issues but Trump does not like Muslims and Omar is a Muslim. With names not repeated in this post, Omar married 2 separate men at different times and married them religiously and sometimes legally with a back and forth between them situation and has children by them. At one time they all lived in the same house. This is common to many Somalians and Africans in general. They all lived in Somalia at the time. There is no proof that one of the men was actually her brother but it is a claim Trump has made. Omar refuses to discuss the issue probably because it would only make it all sound worse. There is no investigation into this matter that can produce anything differently. The bottom line here remains that marriage does not grant citizenship. Marriage and citizenship are separate issues.

One thing that puzzles me about believers in any religion is the conviction that it’s their God ...

DenoPenno comments on Nov 26, 2019:

"Let go and let god." Does it mean to give in and give up? IDK. Of course your god belief is right. God has so many names and in the end it will be shown that other god beliefs were actually a misguided belief based on your belief. There, your faith is strengthened.

My little girl made it three years without religious ideas being taught to her.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 26, 2019:

I see your concern but the only thing I see that you can do to counter this is continue to have conversations with her about what is real and what is make believe. I say it this way because a more aggressive approach might drive her right into the open arms of religion. Back to your talks with her, make those conversations clever without direct denial and do it in a way where she can figure it out.

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

This is exactly how I understand it but Trump supporters can only talk of "what Joe Biden did" when you present it to them. Last Saturday a young man of about 23 told me he understands it all fully but he feels we are over-reacting on it because of outdated laws and principals. This is insane! Back to the old line of "you just cannot fix stupid." One problem again is that Trump supporters simply do not care. Too much anger here.

Alone on Thanksgiving Day. How do you cope?

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

I hope you have fun. My holiday was going to be dinner with both my daughters at one of their places, but the one daughter has to work and I'm not hearing positive dinner plans. This means I will stay home and binge on Netflix while consuming 2 pizzas. The movie of choice is over 3 hours long and is called "The Irishman." Joe Peshi and DeNiro are in that one and it premiers the 28th. I actually have a 4 day weekend as my boss told me just today he is cutting my hours again and I am also off Friday.

As a military veteran, I am deeply angered and offended by Trump's mindless interference in ...

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

Trump will mess with this until the military turns on him. He should beware.

Have you ever wondered about his paradox?

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

This is because of greed. Everyone is afraid that the other guy might get their shit.

There is a connection between spider solitaire and the argument of intelligent design.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

There must be a designer if we are talking about clothes, houses, or cars. One day I am walking along and I find a watch, but the analogy is so often used to explain something that would come along later. If it comes later I would not know it was a watch would I? The truth is that we humans are the designer.

A question you see pop up on here is, when did you become an atheist,which to me sounds like when ...

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

I knew fully by 2012 because it was the only thing that fit. The more I learned the more religion became a myth. Imagine that you believe in a magic man in the sky and his "book" that explained everything became a reality over 300 years after his death. This is why contemporary writers of his time never mention him at all. It is all made up.

Should the USA try to keep Muslims out of their country?

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

IDK? Are there any Muslims in their country? Dude, this is strictly a political question.

How many people have seen the movie Hail Satan! ?

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

I try to avoid anything that may have had some scriptural beginning.

I had a friend whose life was in a state of chaos.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

I try to avoid all stress and for the most part I am able to do so. The art of doing this is to realize that everything does not revolve around you. There is no "center of everything" except in your own mind.

Are Non Believers More Prone To Using Profanity?

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

My youngest daughter and I both swear like sailors. We could be bad influences on each other as we both work with the public which is likely why we swear in the first place. :)

Do you agnostics decorate for Christmas?

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

I would and could, but don't and won't. This is all because I live alone. The situation changes when you bring others into the picture.

A best friend I've known for years said he ended his FWB relationship cause she was falling in love,...

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

Ever consider that your best friend could be bragging to you? What he said could be true but he also could be bragging. I'm in love with a woman I have not actually met in person and friends who hear me talk about her say they know I am soon going to meet her. Why? I'm too poor to live in her world and she admits she cannot live in my state. Obviously that would never work out. I need someone I can kiss and hold and do so without the great strain I see in others daily.

What do you agnostics think about "co-parenting", two people interested in parenthood but not ...

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

What do you agnostics think? I'm not a judge. People have kids and then no longer live together the children still need to spend time with both parents. When this is not allowed their minds are poisoned. The many aspects of people's lives has to be taken into view as well as the best interests of the children.

What made you change from believer to non-believer?

DenoPenno comments on Nov 24, 2019:

I studied the bible and wanted to be a minster at an early age. My study produced evidence that the bible we have today came about some 300 years after the death of Jesus. That answers a lot of questions. What do you know today about someone who lived 300 years ago? Probably not very much.

Why Do So Many Hate Religion? What's ToHate?

DenoPenno comments on Nov 24, 2019:

I hate the false promises of religion and I'm aware of them because I was once religious.

Are Believers Better Citizens?

DenoPenno comments on Nov 24, 2019:

I never ask a question about better citizens or worry about how to be a better citizen. Politics keeps that issue going all the time.

Should Stephen Miller be fired because he is a white Supremacist? [facebook.com]

DenoPenno comments on Nov 23, 2019:

Most certainly. Stephen Miller is abominable but he is exactly what Donald Trump wants. The rich have to convince the poor that the immigrant is the reason that they have no money. This idea keeps the poor working to supply the rich.

The Christian Right could be irrelevant by 2024

DenoPenno comments on Nov 22, 2019:

It needs to happen ASAP. With Trump in the WH all I see and hear is hate promotion between the 2 parties. What should be happening is that they should be working together.

Atheists Call on Minnesota School District to Stop Letting Preacher Recruit Kids | Sarahbeth Caplin ...

DenoPenno comments on Nov 22, 2019:

If I had kids in that school I would do a phone call, then make a personal trip to the school to tell them to drop it all, and if that did not work let the FFRF do a lawsuit. Be loud and very vocal about this lawsuit so they can understand. Kids have enough going on without being told they are sinners and will burn in hell. This is illegal in public schools but still they try and find ways to get around it.

Franklin Graham Promises Christians Chick-fil-A Will Keep Hating The Gays | Michael Stone

DenoPenno comments on Nov 22, 2019:

I agree with you. WTF is this? Is Graham secretly gay?

This super christian guy at my job asked once if I was Christian.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 22, 2019:

I think you gave him a perfect answer.

This morning, we had an agency-wide managers’ meeting, offsite.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 22, 2019:

If you do not play along with their game you may not have a job. Try to think up some one liners to use if they try and trap you on religion. If they try and trap you maybe you can say you have never been actively involved in religion. IDK? Truth or lie it depends on how badly you need that job, and a great many today are wanting those who believe in the invisible man. My guess is that they think believers will have better character.