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Cry me a fucking river..
DenoPenno comments on Dec 14, 2020:
Maybe it would have been different if you had another flag on the back of you truck.
My mom lives in the midwestern US in a state currently hit very hard with COVID cases and deaths.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 12, 2020:
We have 4 plus years of misinformation that sought to control thought and a lot of the religious world in America also to blame this sort of nonsense on. Where is the shame?
Charley Pride passed away at 86 from Covid-19 2020 has been a tough year.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 12, 2020:
Sorry to hear this. I always liked Charley.
The woman that posted this in my FB feed is smart.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 12, 2020:
I would have her retired from my feed as I find this offensive.
Look what came in the mail today! Did you get one, too?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 12, 2020:
I can attest to one and all that there is no America in Bible Prophesy. I don't care what bible books you are reading or what others have told you about them, America is not in bible prophesy. In fact, the whole idea of prophesy is an iffy situation at best. Even those who have once been involved with it cannot agree on it. The best place for anything like this is the recycle bin. BTW, If you get something like this and you have a religious friend don't mention that you pitched it. Your friend will start telling you the parts they agree with.
Tony Dungy questions Christian faith of Raphael Warnock after tweet stating he's a 'pro-choice ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 12, 2020:
Warrnock says he believes it pro choice. He doesn't see that a woman's healthcare should put the GOP in the clinic with her.
Help eradicate ignorance in America. Deport a retrumplican.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 12, 2020:
How long will it take us to get rid of those ugly pictures?
Pastor: Planes Don’t Crash If There’s a Christian “On That Airplane Praying” | Hemant Mehta ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 12, 2020:
I've flown in planes that had turbulence. It has nothing to do with gods. Some planes have more turbulence that others and it does not mean they are going to crash.
I may have posted this here earlier, I can't remember.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 12, 2020:
For the most part we do not know what dinosaurs sounded like or looked like. Their color is a big mystery, but what does that matter?
Do you believe that there is life after death
DenoPenno comments on Dec 10, 2020:
Why does this keep coming up? It is contradictory.
Below is a political flyer that came in my mail today and I was having a turbulent day, so I wrote ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 10, 2020:
You just cannot stop them. They seem more ignorant all the time and now we have four years of nonsense that Trump brought in to try and get rid of.
I rather spend 2 years in jail than having to go to church on sundays for the rest of my life.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 10, 2020:
If you are in jail you probably will be going to church on Sundays. You might get out sooner.
do you play Monopoly? Isn't it boring? 😂😂😂
DenoPenno comments on Dec 10, 2020:
My experience with the game goes back to me being 8 years old and my family played often with another military family in Kansas. Later in 2006 my ex heard of this game so I bought Monopoly and we played a time or too.
Why are people so supportive of Trump?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 9, 2020:
Maybe because it's Cult 45. I've had a hard time understanding this myself. I have seen many different vehicles painted up so pretty with "**Promises Made, Promises Kept.**" It makes no sense to me. As I read the promises it makes less sense. Seeing it all on paper does not help me with this. I don't get it. I have trouble seeing where Donald Trump did anything constructive or worth while. the best he has done in 4 years is to show us all how much we hate each other. Will his followers catch on to this too? New conservative news outlets now with new flags, T shirts, and moderators who claim "even when I'm wrong I'm right." When will the faithful finally decide that they have been had?
My first and last tattoo: eyebrows.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 9, 2020:
I share a disdain for tattoos but my daughters love them. Looks like this idea solved a problem for you. :)
The "Christmas Star", a once in 800 year event, will take place on Dec 21st, winter solstice.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 9, 2020:
It would be interesting to watch this.
Australia may outlaw Jehovah's witness
DenoPenno comments on Dec 9, 2020:
Anything is possible. A man once asked me if I was Jehovah's witness. I told him I didn't even see the accident.
Yeah dig deeper should be used to it
DenoPenno comments on Dec 9, 2020:
Even if there are lost ballots, Donny, you are done now.
Durban Professor develops first anti-covid-19 drug treatment. ...as opposed to a vaccine.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 9, 2020:
This would be interesting but I can't get your link to work.
I am writing to all members that can read my post.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 8, 2020:
Most of us can relate to these words.
"Who does cucumbers around here? 'Cause I like cucumbers!" ---Donald J. Trump
DenoPenno comments on Dec 8, 2020:
He learned abut them from Jeffrey.
What Do Atheists Do at Christmas?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 8, 2020:
I do very little at Christmas. If I did not live alone this would all change I'm sure. Merry Yuletide and Happy Sammich to you.
A Woman Was Nearly Kicked Off a Flight for Wearing a “Hail Satan” Shirt | Hemant Mehta | ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 7, 2020:
Religious superstition. It's wonderful.
Great article about the differences in the brains of conservatives and liberals.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 7, 2020:
My political bent has changed over the years. Today I am liberal and almost progressive.
A Unique Take on Trumpism: [alternet.org]
DenoPenno comments on Dec 7, 2020:
The fight insn't over. I'm sorry. It is for me. I do not deal with alternate facts.
Why did God make me an atheist?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 7, 2020:
The more time goes forward in my life today the less I find myself wondering and worrying about these questions. Honestly, this is not something that keeps me awake at night.
The 2020 version of the famous New York Daily News headline for this news release tonight from the ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 7, 2020:
Wonderful.Sorry Donny.
Respecting beliefs.. [youtu.be]
DenoPenno comments on Dec 7, 2020:
Do you deserver eternal torture? I'd have to know you a little bit first.
Why are you agnostic? If you're not agnostic then why are you only a theist or an atheist?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 7, 2020:
I'm only a theist that's an atheist.
Michael Flynn is a true Trump supporter. He wants Trump to declare martial law. [independent.co.uk]
DenoPenno comments on Dec 6, 2020:
We see this kind of nonsense in movies and read of it in books. Does this make us all more likely to just go along with it. How does one suspend the Constitution? If it happened does it simply mean everyone is in agreement to those actions. Why would there not be some agency at work to quickly counter the threat and declare we were back to normal. Flynn and Trump are both similar nut cases.
[scotsman.com] The cost of theTrump family
DenoPenno comments on Dec 6, 2020:
Way too much cost for sure.
Love nature pics
DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2020:
The very rare black kangaroo looks like a dog taking a crap. :)
Conservative Christians Fear Biden Will Create ‘Transgender Atheist Army’ | Michael Stone
DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2020:
I suppose we are way beyond the point of making this crap all up.
Rita Moreno (singer & actress) in 1953
DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2020:
I always liked her. OK, I was only 7 years old then but I liked her anyway.
Why do so many religious people say "atheism is a religion" or other completely bogus claims about ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2020:
You didn't know? I'm taking logic and evidence classes all the time but the bibble sez . . . .
Wyoming health official says 'so-called pandemic' a communist plot
DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2020:
Just ignorant or he has no sick people in his family.
Is being agnostic more positively correlated with intelligence than being theistic?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2020:
Absolutely. There is no question about it.
Wikipedia is asking for donations
DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2020:
This sounds about right. Keep in ind that if everyone just sent me a dollar I would be a very rich man. Take notice of your place here on the list and mail to the next guy, knowing that your time will also come. Maybe, then maybe not.
Nothing in this crazy country works anymore and you can't even complain about it.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2020:
In my area the insurance will pay up to $1000 on a new set of dentures but you have to pay in full, then they reimburse you half of it. There is also some back and forth nonsense on not covering it if you have the "advantage" plan. My agent plays dumb on this and they also do a back and forth on covering diabetic shoes. As for Trump re-assuming power it is called dictatorship so don't count on it. Trump is done. Stick a fork in him and remove him from the grill.
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DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2020:
I could have been a contender but I was never exactly sure what it was that I was going to contend with.
And the tRumptards lose again!!!!!
DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2020:
Will they ever get it? How could you turn over the Biden votes to Trump. How would that work?
Dominion Votung was founded in 2003 in Toronto, Canada, not Venezuela.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2020:
Your first sentence straightens it all up nicely. Rudy wanted to make it into Venezuela so we would hate the machine but this hinted to many of us what Trump was wanting to do. The lies backfired. In my area voting is done by paper ballot and all the machines do is store the ballots until they are all re-counted again by hand.
I was watching Biden being interviewed, and he was asked, "Do you want to see Trump at your ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 5, 2020:
I agree with you and McCain. Trump has nothing to do with the inauguration so why want him around? Let's not make him a part of anything he doesn't want to be a part of. Also, let's stop giving him free media press.
Yes, I Will Be ‘Reaching Out’ To Trump Voters Now, And Again In 4 Years.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 4, 2020:
I do not reach out to Trump supporters. I do hope that eventually they get secure enough to go shopping without the guns strapped on, and that they can stop the talk of those crossing our Southern border just to kill us. Suckering you in to ideas of leaders called "coyotes" who control their every move and become the distraction when people really do come here in fear for their lives. I'm still running on to sincere people who tell me that CDC doctors are paid by politicians. It's amazing!
A Newspaper Typo Led to “Satan” Showing Up at a Christmas Parade | Hemant Mehta | Friendly ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 4, 2020:
That was great. Tim Miller got to have a little fun and give people those pics with Satan that they wanted.
Pastor Who Blamed COVID on Gay People Now Says Biden Supporters “Are Cursed” | Hemant Mehta | ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 4, 2020:
This guy is all ate up.
California Monolith Torn Down, Replaced with Cross by Racist Christians | Hemant Mehta | Friendly ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 4, 2020:
It seems these days that we are all going backwards in time. This has the superstition of 100 years ago or more.
Right-Wing Group: How Dare “Young Sheldon” Compare God to an “Invisible Monkey”! | Hemant ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 4, 2020:
The right is always the group that is incensed and also the group most likely to commit acts that do incense others. I guess it is because their god will forgive them.
Does anyone else have a really random thing that for some reason bothers you, mildly?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 4, 2020:
Two things really bother me. The one is "Go Medicare" which thankfully will end December 7th. I cringe over this idiotic crap all about greed on both sides of $144 a month. Plain stupid. The next thing is political talk about Trump and you make a statement to then have the other party start telling you what you just told them about everybody else. No, no. I said nothing about everybody else. Nothing at all.
Actually started to get an. idea after Obama was elected.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 4, 2020:
That pretty much explains it. This is also why my friends list is much shorter today. You would be surprised even now how many people do not want Kamala Harris. The big complaint is that if Biden dies then Harris is president. This comes from people so dumb they do not know they are racist.
Only 4 1/2 weeks until the Georgia runoff election.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 4, 2020:
Why not. We really do need to Ditch Mitch and that is what this is all about.
Fortune or foresight? AstraZeneca and Oxford's stories clash on COVID-19 vaccine [reuters]
DenoPenno comments on Dec 4, 2020:
I'm not expecting too much going on with this until early February.
Ever been in this situation
DenoPenno comments on Dec 4, 2020:
Not exactly. I would quickly explain that someone is batshit crazy.
Atheist News 11/21/20- Pastors deny Biden victory, Alito says religious liberty is in danger, +more!...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
God appointed Trump but yet he could not deliver the election. Yeah, that just makes perfect sense. Oh, I forgot the role of that mean ole Debbil. Is it like Jebus guaranteeing us victory by getting killed?
Pastor Blames Satan and “Liberal Crazies,” But Not COVID, for Church Closures | Hemant Mehta | ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
Pastor Greg is all ate up.
Dave Daubenmire: No One Has It Worse in America Than Vocal Christian Men | Hemant Mehta | Friendly ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
But Jebus told them this would happen. That's why they all believe it.
Religion explained.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
Very well put. BTW, somewhere I have a "get out of hell free" card. :)
No child should be discriminated against!! [secularism.org.uk]
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
The last paragraph sums it all up nicely. This is what deVos was trying to do to public schools in America,
How much of our religious doctrines come from the consumption of psychotropic substances?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
Drugs are not new. A man once told me that alcohol is called "spirits" for a reason.
December 3, 1967 Christiaan Barnard of South Africa performed the first human heart transplant, at ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
A big breakthrough for science but we also started seeing sci fi movies in which a person got the heart of a killer and heard women say "somehow George just is not the same." This false belief goes into ideas that your body is connected to something called a soul and both of them have to be in harmony. I look forward to the time that we can harvest organs to use if that time is not here already.
This explains much about them
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
Some people believe a lot of things they want you to believe but what they have is almost impossible to believe. The whole Q thing is part of this.
Pro-Trump Lawyer on Claims of Being “Crazy”: “They Said the Same Thing About Jesus” | Hemant...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
Oh, so people also said Jesus was crazy and he was one prefect man, etc. How do we know people of his time said anything about Jesus? No written record and silent contemporaries.
Paula White: I Can’t Abandon Trump Because “What Would That Say About Who I Am?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
Really. I would not want to be in the same room with Paula White. That's because I already know her character.
Pastor: Trump Will Soon Arrest and Execute People Trying to “Steal” the Election | Hemant Mehta ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
Some Trumpers believed this the entire 4 years. I used to see a meme made up showing Trump watching Hillary and Obama. Apparently they do not know this as Trump ranted about both of them during his term and wanted to "lock them up." The caption below that meme picture read "just wait." Another product of the Trump hate rallies I suppose.
Trump backers, including Flynn, edge toward a call to 'suspend' Constitution to head off Biden ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
I don't think this will work.
Trump Hints at Another Act in Four Years, Just Like Grover Cleveland
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
He is actually entertaining the idea of pardoning himself. I don't think that idea will work. It also shows that he knows he committed crimes.
Freshly pardoned Michael Flynn shares message telling Trump to 'suspend the Constitution' to hold a ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
Michael Flynn was convicted for a reason. Now you see his true thinking.
Michael Flynn calls for Trump to suspend the constitution and declare martial law to re-run election...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
This does not surprise me. I read earlier today of militia groups saying we could end up in a "shooting civil war." Why does media fall for this? Most likely Flynn had this idea going for a while. Total bullshit here. Can you see Trump now declaring martial law and suspending the Constitution because he cares so much for the country and it's people that he would rather remain in power forever rather than any one of us being harmed or killed. If anything similar to this happened I'm not sure our military would be on Trump's side. There is a good chance that Trump is not sure of that either.
Are Twitter and Facebook's new "Hate Speech" rules fair?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
The Facebook AI got on to me once and said I could not post the same things repeatedly the way I was doing. It was not allowed I was told. My protest response was that I am doing no more than they do daily and they left me alone after that. My activist posts and replies are probably generating them money.
He hit this one out of the park....
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
I only discovered Ingersoll last year but he is amazing.
Wow, what is up with the MAGAZINE on the left side of my page?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
It's not on my page.
Yesterday I met a woman who told me she is selling her house because she and her husband are moving ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
You gave her a good answer. I'm surprised she did not ask you to look at the trees.
Christmas 2020 style!
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
This must be close to one of Trump's golf courses.
Hi - I'm not sure what to do about something.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
You may have to ignore it and just move on. I often think that I know what I am talking about and daily I find others that do not see what I am saying. This is life and the difference in people and views. Sometimes I feel I have made it so plain to others but the replies show that it was not so. Even on this site I posted what a person did not want to hear or deal with once too often and he told me to "fuck off." My view of his posts is that they are all involving distraction and backwards historical views that more or less tell us we are doomed and can do nothing about it, but he wants us to be informed. To each his own. I view his posts as something telling us all to give up, so sometimes you simply have to ignore it.
Can't the Republicans see now that Trump is crazy, trying to make as big a mess as possible for ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
This is a good question. I doubt they will change or figure it out as new conservative news agencies emerge and have newer slogans, T shirts, flags, etc. to take their money as they continue to follow all the nonsense. It's almost as lame as people being obsessed with time and clocks and someone always around to sell you a new clock. Unlike clock fanatics, the Cult 45 followers are dangerous.
In Case You Missed It, Reagan Was A Scumbag [kotaku.com]
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
My eyes and mind were different then. I was a card carrying member of the RNC in those daze, believed in Reagan, and did a side line with Robert B. DePugh. They are both dead now and times change just as people change. Today my views are Progressive.
She's looking for friends on Facebook. Look her up.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
Enjoy them while they last. After a while they go south.
The view I've been treasured for four years.❤
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
As seen from the concrete jungle tree house.
Christians: "You're atheist because you're just angry at / bitter toward / afraid of / hate god.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 3, 2020:
This is the common answer they give you. My religious friend is like this coz he knows "that I know the truth." Of course I do. There is no evidence for gods. None. Zip. Now on into their prayer at dinner of lunch. "God, use this food for the nourishment of my body." Wait! Wait! I know more into that idea than most but let's just deal with the fact that it is your body using the food. There is no god to use the food that goes into your body. The prayer model for this is so old that if they had refrigeration it would be another story. Today we have it. Then they did not.
Unpopular Opinion: Young Earth Creationists are on the same level as Flat Earthers. : atheism
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
So ridiculous that people can believe this total nonsense. Yet, they believe it because someone somewhere is making money off of it through shirts, meetings, and other merchandise.
Trump shot himself in the foot, and trumpsters don't know shit.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
Now the Trump pinata is breaking.
You just know it's there.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
I wish Pattycake was my friend.
If this has come up earlier, please forgive my foggy memory.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
I could never help build skyscrapers.
Justice Department investigates possible bribery for pardons l GMA - YouTube
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
Not surprising. He also had a charity shut down because it was no more than a family slosh fund.
DIRTY MONEY KEEPS FLOWING IN: The Justice Department is investigating a potential crime related to ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
According to Rick Wilson everything that Donald Trump touches dies. Here is just one more reason that Trump is now being told to "pardon himself."
Insane Christians Convinced a South Dakota City to Water Down Its Mask Mandate | Hemant Mehta | ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
If this continues we can thank Trump for ridding the GOP of religion and doing it single handedly. I get it. These people have a biblical right and a Constitutional right to not wear a mask. Anyone know the passage locations?
Did George H. W. Bush Really Say Atheists Shouldn’t Be Considered Citizens?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
He was religious. I never knew him but I think he knew that "one nation under god" was added by Eisenhower to take a stand against communism.
Neal Katyal asks the Supreme Court to give Nestle and Cargill immunity for abetting child slavery.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
We have to do something here. Corporations should not be free of lawsuits of any kind and free speech is not determined by the money that is given. These people need to be held accountable.
Evangelist: Be Loyal to God, Reject Election Results
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
This is utter insanity! Groups of them all over think Trump is chosen by a god. They want you to believe in faith that Trump won and make it all happen. Apparently Donald Trump believes this too. OMG, what happened? What is about to happen is that new conservative media is coming out with new flags, new hats and slogans, and everything else they need to drain the faithful of yet a little more cash. This is almost funny. How long will it take them to figure things out?
Hard work? yes but it must be on the right thing.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
Interesting. Recently a woman of 36 has selected me to possibly be her husband. The big problem is she is a picture and words on a screen. She does not check out as a real person. maybe she does not know what I know on this. LOL
How Atheist Candidates Did in the 2020 Elections - YouTube
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
Hemant is exactly correct here.
Study Finds ‘Single Largest Driver’ of Coronavirus Misinformation: Trump
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
I believe every word of this while we all put up with, and did nothing, as the asshole declared "I am not responsible." It is true of course. Donald Trump has zero responsibility. I think he has been this way his entire life.
Republican Ohio Gov. DeWine faces impeachment calls from GOP rebels over Covid restrictions
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
But of course. The Trump Administration declared victory over COVID as it rounded a curve and they moved on. "It is what it is." Any MAGA hat wearer knows this.
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
Does this mean that Barr has finally come to grips with the fact that he will now not get that Supreme Court seat?
Fake Christian of the Week: Jerry Falwell, Jr. - YouTube
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
I'm not amazed at all.
I can tell it's getting colder...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
Animals are like that. If in Australia you could have a 3 cat night. Wait. I didn't say that right.
What did the teen tell his doctor upon waking up in the hospital during a thunderstorm?
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
This sounds like one of my Little Johnny jokes.
Cat accompanies firefighters to stand guard every day at a Chinese brigade | Daily Mail Online
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
Works out well for the cat and the men.
Hungarian anti-gay MEP resigns after breaking lockdown to attend orgy - Business Insider
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
Rather ignorant really. But what do I know? I spent Thanksgiving with a girl I met that same day. lol
I was trying to figure out who actually wrote the books of the bible and everyone thinks its these ...
DenoPenno comments on Dec 2, 2020:
In our time today there is very little of anything left to actually hint at original authorship. We have pieces and fragments and everything is a copy of a copy of a copy. You cannot tell the religious this however. They think the gospels were written by those who's names are on them. They ask why would Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John lie. OK, why would a fraudulent painter lie? Later in the time of Constantine the bible as we know it was put together into a big book out of all the 66 plus smaller books. They picked and chose over what books were of real value and which were not. Many of the books not included were called false, or Gnostic and all of this happened some 300 years after the time of Jesus. My writing here cannot do it justice but once this is understood you will have a different view of Christian religion and any religious book.

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Do away with the strange colors and you have LBJ. That's right. Elbee Jay.
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Me as Richard Dawkins?
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Again at my daughter's place. The Sangria drink is a non-alcohol beverage from Mexico. I get them at Save A lot or Dollar Tree.
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Taken at my oldest daughter's place before my granddaughter exterminated and killed the pet parrot.
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