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Fellow agnostics, how do you feel about believers joining?

Alliegirl comments on Oct 1, 2017:

Today is my first day, but the reason I joined was to get away from religious view points and be able to be in a community of people who lean more toward the way I look at things. I get the religious perspective all the time. However, if they are respectful of our beliefs as I am with anyone ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 28, 2018:

@TheMiddleWay it's like the bullet kills people- but the gun has nothing to do with it. People should disrespect Trump's ideas- but Trump has nothing to do with the blather that comes out of his mouth. Is there more of your ideas? Ya, people in stone houses should not throw glasses.

What irritating song do you hear in stores- that makes you want to leave?

Knitfreak comments on Jan 22, 2018:

LOL I hate Christmas music after about a week... so hearing it in October makes me want to scream.

Diogenes replies on Jan 28, 2018:

Ya, it is meant to be torture- and it is.

What irritating song do you hear in stores- that makes you want to leave?

SKH78 comments on Jan 21, 2018:

Christmas music drives me bonkers every December. Wish it would stop.

Diogenes replies on Jan 28, 2018:

Susan, what do you mean "December"? How about "November to some time in January"? I think I crash through the door on leaving.

What irritating song do you hear in stores- that makes you want to leave?

resserts comments on Jan 15, 2018:

Modern country music grates on my nerves terribly. I know it's unfair to disparage an entire genre of music, and I know that some country music is extremely good, but whenever I hear country music playing in a store or restaurant, I try my best to block it out.

Diogenes replies on Jan 28, 2018:

When I am in the coffee shop I DO block out any so-called music; I put on actual music on the computer and I have huge earphones. An' thet thar country music gives me the urge ta go out an' shoot a gopher. That would be mean though; it probably hates country music as much as I do.

Good morning everyone! So a friend of mine responded to a pastors video about a black man asking if...

Coffeo comments on Jan 28, 2018:

Now that the meaning of "smh" has been revealed, just whose head was the woman shaking?

Diogenes replies on Jan 28, 2018:

@Coffeo ya, know what you mean. My former "true love" was from Europe. She spoke enough Deutsch that she worked for Lufthansa, she did the talking to the hotel staff in Paris (because I never learned much French, and forgot it anyway) and spoke 'engels' without error. Why is it that persons who don't know 'one' language, are so proficient in acronym blather?

Good morning everyone! So a friend of mine responded to a pastors video about a black man asking if...

Rudy1962 comments on Jan 27, 2018:

It does get old. Religious people feel free to openly express their beliefs. However, if someone says they don't believe in God, they are considered rude and aggressive. Oh yah, or a militant Atheist. People think they are open minded by saying "I accept you're an atheist, but don't go around ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 28, 2018:

I have no interest in religion, so it is far from my first topic of choice and something I seldom talk about. They are not "trying to be nice"; if they were trying to be "nice", they would say something meaningful and respectful. I can be flippant too, "Mickey Mouse will bless you too".

Good morning everyone! So a friend of mine responded to a pastors video about a black man asking if...

Coffeo comments on Jan 28, 2018:

Now that the meaning of "smh" has been revealed, just whose head was the woman shaking?

Diogenes replies on Jan 28, 2018:

"smh"- I don't know what it means (ya sorta guessed it); I don't care what it means- and I don't speak in acronyms. My guess is that people with nothing to say, say nothing- but loquaciously.

Fellow agnostics, how do you feel about believers joining?

bingst comments on Sep 25, 2017:

I'm not thrilled about it either. I wonder wtf they're doing here. It's one of the reasons I suggested to admin that we'll need a blocking/reporting system. Unfortunately, even if blocked, that won't keep their inevitable disruptions out of discussions, unless everyone agrees to ignore these ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 27, 2018:

@KentTorch "many Christians with doubts", I don't think so; that would take a little thought. The ones that do terminate religion, many are very angry that they have been coned so badly; that everything was there in plain site, and for some reason they didn't pay attention to the obvious.

Fellow agnostics, how do you feel about believers joining?

Alliegirl comments on Oct 1, 2017:

Today is my first day, but the reason I joined was to get away from religious view points and be able to be in a community of people who lean more toward the way I look at things. I get the religious perspective all the time. However, if they are respectful of our beliefs as I am with anyone ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 27, 2018:

Allie, would you "respect" the belief that the world was flat? And we can go on forever in the 'book of lies'. I have no respect for religious fools- or secular ones either.

Regarding the bible, the ultimate problem is that the pious insist even the errors of the many ...

BrigittaCuadros comments on Jan 3, 2018:

Personally, there is no point in arguing about imaginary beings. But the point is that religion is a fraud, which leaves people with a an unimaginable void that is not there. It is a condition named Stockholm Syndrome. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome Maybe we should look at the ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 27, 2018:

@BrigittaCuadros I have NO interest in religion. I am agnostic; I do not know if Nature has a cognitive entity behind it or not- and I am not going to fill that void with a contrived answer. Some of the healed children said they wanted to be a doctor or health worker. I'll take that outlook before I'll listen to some self-serving atheist. But true, it would make me angry, if some bag of rice had stenciled on the side, "This food was brought to you by god"(as far as I know Nature did not create/empower any gods)- when in fact, seed, climate and hard work is what enabled the donation.

Fellow agnostics, how do you feel about believers joining?

Dwight comments on Jan 25, 2018:

I too have retired from the argumentative life. A good two sided sharing of the facts and a friendly we agree to disagree is fine with me. Anyone is welcome, just be civil, respectful of each other's thinking and don't take themselves to seriously. It does take all kinds to make a world with the ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 27, 2018:

I don't claim to be a member of MENSA- but I won't argue with a moron either.

Fellow agnostics, how do you feel about believers joining?

Ktcyan comments on Jan 26, 2018:

I've recently noticed some posts by people who don't meet the criteria of agnostic or atheists saying god loves you so much and crap like that. If that is going to be accepted on here I 'm just going to find another group. I just read some posts by rickarto. He must think he's on here to convert ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 27, 2018:

Don't leave. There are other rooms on here besides "Religion and Spirituality", such as news, music, politics. I, for one, never want to go to La la Land- and walk on "streets of purest gold"; the glare would be hard on the eyes, and the metal would be hard on the boots too. I prefer Nature and green grass.

“Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty.

Dravid55 comments on Jan 27, 2018:

Disobedience is the relm of the delinquent. Hopefully the man will feel comfortable in his own skin. ;) You?

Diogenes replies on Jan 27, 2018:

Refusing to go to an unjust war and killing people one has never even met, in support of the 'war and murder industry', is not being "delinquent".

Those of you in the US that celebrate Thanksgiving with religious family, do you all have to do the ...

NerdyOkieDude comments on Nov 20, 2017:

If it’s my house they can pray silently or leave. If it’s their house I wait quietly why they engage in a behavior that might otherwise be a sign of mental illness, taking to someone who isn’t there.

Diogenes replies on Jan 26, 2018:

@NerdyOkieDude "What typos?" LOL. Hey typos and spelling errors are 'my' specialty. I even spell four-letter words like "shit" with two Ts. LOL

Is it just me who thinks 99% of sexually oriented jokes are authored by men (boys)?

Diogenes comments on Jan 12, 2018:

Brigitta- I am going to comment on something other than "jokes" first. When I watch TV at night, there 'seems' to be 99%, murder: strangle them, burn them, chop 'em up with a chain saw- anything a warped mind can think of! Hey, but there ain't none of thet thar "sex"; that might distort someone's ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 26, 2018:

@BrigittaCuadros I don't know whether I laugh at myself that often. Yes, I have a 'some what' sense of humour- but when I start thinking about myself, I often get depressed by all the moronic mistakes I have made. I could use a vacation- about three months long, to chill out.

What would be the definition of hell to you?

ripcurldane comments on Jan 24, 2018:

Indeed it can. Hell, we have Hells on earth and plenty of them. How about this one. I lose all my money and my passport and somehow end up in the streets of a very poor country with no clean drinking water. I lost all my objects and property and live homeless, scavenging from bin or rubbish piles. ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 24, 2018:

Yes, and while all the gluttons scarf down as much food as their guts will hold- with zero concerns for anyone other than themselves.

What would be the definition of hell to you?

KKGator comments on Jan 24, 2018:

Having to go back and grow up all over again, in my mother's house.

Diogenes replies on Jan 24, 2018:

Wow, that is right on. Did your mother have a sister? My mother was about as loopy as one can get. She loved going to the doctor; that was her hobby. She never told a joke in her life- she couldn't understand why people would laugh. Oh ya, there were the beatings too- besides trying to twist my brain into a knot.

Is it just me who thinks 99% of sexually oriented jokes are authored by men (boys)?

DerekD comments on Jan 11, 2018:

I guess it also brings up the question of what one considers sexual. Is it just 'pee pee' and 'hoo-ha' jokes? Or double entendre (like was so often in the Britcom 'Are You Being Served?') and general word play? Jokes that may sound 'dirty' but actually aren't if you look at them literally. Sex ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 23, 2018:

You hit the nail on the head. Some jokes are insightful. Some blather that 'inflicts' the 'product', cause me to wonder, "why". And "yes", sex can be funny.

Boyfriend is agnostic, I'm an atheist. How to cope with disagreements?

gotham comments on Oct 30, 2017:

As Ricky Gervais puts it, an agnostic is basically an atheist. What makes one agnostic is determined by their answer to the the question, "Does god exist?". To which they would say they "do not know" as opposed to an atheist's answer "simply no". If you twitch the question a little bit and ask, "Do ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 22, 2018:

I get the idea that you are playing with semantics. Simple: all gods are man-made and in man's image. Nature is- whether we go back two or three "Big Bangs"- if there have been more than one. Nature has never sent any 'messengers'- if it is cognitive. And if it is cognitive, that would make it a 'creator'. But I do not know the last part- therefore that makes me an agnostic.

Happiness can be so disorienting

Treasurehunter comments on Jan 19, 2018:

Perhaps the link to an article on happiness may help you https://theconversation.com/true-happiness-isnt-about-being-happy-all-the-time-88600

Diogenes replies on Jan 21, 2018:

@Treasurehunter "Rugby"- but Wales and Ireland always kick the hell out of England and France in the Six (now Seven) Nations League. LOL. But internationally NZ, Oz and South Africa have some great teams. You are right; exciting games to watch. But I like "football"- the game where they kick the ball with the foot- that is why it is called "football"- in every place in the world except in this North American ghetto.

I am atheist.

AlasBabylon comments on Jan 21, 2018:

I trust most theists as much as pretty any other group, at least in most matters. However, I wouldn't want any child of mine to be brought up by Christian fundamentalists. They would probably teach beliefs, values or attitudes that I I disagree with and that I think are wrong or bad.

Diogenes replies on Jan 21, 2018:

Yes, in the "Thou shalt nots", I don't see anywhere where it says, "Thou shalt be honest." But I also have religious friends- and they wouldn't steal.

I am atheist.

tsjames comments on Jan 21, 2018:

I think you have to judge people on their qualities. I think a person can be extremely sceptical of the role of religion in society, and yet be close friends and trust implicitly people who are very religious.

Diogenes replies on Jan 21, 2018:

With me, I think that being "very religious" might be a tipping point.

Happiness can be so disorienting

Treasurehunter comments on Jan 19, 2018:

Perhaps the link to an article on happiness may help you https://theconversation.com/true-happiness-isnt-about-being-happy-all-the-time-88600

Diogenes replies on Jan 21, 2018:

@Treasurehunter yes, of course, 'any' law will effect a person in a minor or major way. I am in Canada, but the US border is close at hand and US events effect the whole world. Trump is quite insane; if he gets a chance, to imprison journalist that tell the truth, he will certainly do it- THAT is direct affects of laws.-------and do you watch football?

Happiness can be so disorienting

Treasurehunter comments on Jan 19, 2018:

Perhaps the link to an article on happiness may help you https://theconversation.com/true-happiness-isnt-about-being-happy-all-the-time-88600

Diogenes replies on Jan 20, 2018:

@Treasurehunter Back to my day today- just watched Man City and the Geordies. City is now back on top, with a twelve point lead. It was 3-1 with the City player doing a hat-trick. Don't watch either team that much. Good game; Newcastle played well, but the third goal sorta finished them. At least I enjoyed that couple of hours----- Well laws do not 'directly' effect you. Last time I was in England was many decades ago. I don't even know what Theresa May's approval rating is.

Hello everyone, glad to be here! I just signed up today

sassygirl3869 comments on Jan 19, 2018:

Congrats and welcome to our freethinker community.

Diogenes replies on Jan 20, 2018:

Thanks for your "like". My point is that I am so far past religion, and that a thinking person, new to the site, would soon get tired of it too, so I tried to mention other things/rooms that are on here.

Happiness can be so disorienting

Treasurehunter comments on Jan 19, 2018:

Perhaps the link to an article on happiness may help you https://theconversation.com/true-happiness-isnt-about-being-happy-all-the-time-88600

Diogenes replies on Jan 20, 2018:

There are ways of being 'happy', some unusual ones, some people are in their proper environment, when they are miserable, old bastards. They refuse to come out of that rut. I was laid off- illegally- 20 years ago and I have had one thing after another pilled on to that. In this society, there is a need of money to 'survive'- with a bit more to 'live'. Survival, for the sake of survival, isn't worth the effort- that is unless a person is delusional.---------Having said all those negative things- I am constantly looking for ways to get out of the rat's nest. A few weeks ago I started talking with someone, 'right on this site'. Every morning I awaken to great music on my clock-radio. (a small point) I got an e-mail this morning from a local art firm advising me that they wanted show pieces. (ya, if I work hard I could get a few things, well done, together) And there were a few other good things to 'start the day', including that film that you included. The background music was even uplifting- a person who 'wanted' to be miserable would disregard that. Piles of money means nothing to me- enough to be functional certainly would help my day though.

Oh my; I had a religious 'encounter' yesterday.

astrochuck comments on Jan 18, 2018:

Sad. My experience is: this type of person is too far gone and there is virtually no hope of Enlightening her. Your time is better spent engaging open minded believers.

Diogenes replies on Jan 19, 2018:

@AtheismIsLife but these people want an easy fix to their problems. Get a cheap fix for your car- then expect a fast breakdown. In the long run a person must do what it takes to solve a problem. I feel sorry for people who have problems---- and I do not have all the answers- in fact, I have situations where I can't find any resolution.

Oh my; I had a religious 'encounter' yesterday.

AtheismIsLife comments on Jan 19, 2018:

Mental illness is rampant in the world. I am tired of these former drug addicts who are born-again Christians. I was trying to have a lovely Summer day here in Arizona with my kids at the park. I had to be approached by one with her kids. Those drugs were taking over, and, she needed God for ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 19, 2018:

Yes, it is not a step forward to trade one addiction for another. Trading the drug addiction for the religious one is pointless. I quit smoking many decades ago- because it was a dirty, stinking, moronic, costly habit. When I die, I do not want it to be from lung cancer, where it takes years of trying to suck in a little bit of air. And yes, it was very hard to do. I didn't "discover god"; I discovered more reality.

Oh my; I had a religious 'encounter' yesterday.

astrochuck comments on Jan 18, 2018:

Sad. My experience is: this type of person is too far gone and there is virtually no hope of Enlightening her. Your time is better spent engaging open minded believers.

Diogenes replies on Jan 19, 2018:

Actually I can get along with 'humanists'; I don't care if they are religious or not. When a person is busy with what they are doing, there is no time left for nonsense.

Oh my; I had a religious 'encounter' yesterday.

MsOliver comments on Jan 18, 2018:

That's almost as bad as the idiot on CBS news this morning defending Trump and telling him that all of the policy answers are in the Bible if he'll just look for them. I wanted to send a message to the interviewer and ask how she got designated "idiot whisperer" for the day.

Diogenes replies on Jan 19, 2018:

I can't figure it out- NO interest in science what so ever! And another "NO"; I did not initiate either one of these conversations. Talking about "floods" and other fairy tales: the god-god tales were just copies of earlier ones, and with the same nastiness. Zeus gave Pandora a box (apparently sometimes referred to as a "jar") with a note saying, "Do not open"- the command bit- then provided the key- the temptation bit. When she opened it, letting out the sins, he flooded the whole world in "seven days and nights". Must have been more proficient than the other god-dude- took him 40days and nights.

I pick my battles.

Babyseal comments on Jan 17, 2018:

It was so refreshing a few months ago when I travelled to a party where my son played solo and with a band. At 54 I was the easily the eldest there. Late in the night we where sitting around fire. Subject of religion come up and most of the youngsters are atheist. This is Australia. I hope all ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 18, 2018:

But I have a question, are they actually atheist, or too lazy to form an opinion about religion, or anything? Another point, that I have mentioned before, those huge churches in Holland are empty; but in Europe that is also a matter of education. I believe you are wrong to think Oz is ahead of the rest of the world. They, in Europe, are so far past religion that that is a subject seldom mentioned.

Martin Luther King Jr said: Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.

Kayleigh-a comments on Jan 15, 2018:

That is a particularly good quote from King. I hope one day the world will be a more unified and welcoming place.

Diogenes replies on Jan 17, 2018:

@Kayleigh-a I tried to cause you to laugh- I was not successful, OBVIOUSLY! The subject about religion was not directed at you specifically. Yesterday, I was in the Mennonite Store and picked up one of their magazines; they have reviews of their projects around the world. They do not preach. Like King, and many other religious people, they take action.----------There will be no more posts.

Martin Luther King Jr said: Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.

Kayleigh-a comments on Jan 15, 2018:

That is a particularly good quote from King. I hope one day the world will be a more unified and welcoming place.

Diogenes replies on Jan 16, 2018:

@Kayleigh-a Now let's get down to the knitty-gritty, are you a United or a City fan? If you are not a football fan, you must go to the back of the class---- and sit in the corner. Please laugh. I wish I could see more games. I like to watch the Scouse, Liverpool. Talking about religion gets VERY tiresome.

Apparently in 2013 Oprah made the comment that Athists cannot feel awe and wonder.

FrayedBear comments on Jan 12, 2018:

Who is Oprah Winfrey?

Diogenes replies on Jan 16, 2018:

@FrayedBear I am in Canada. I've done a bit of travel; never been to Oz. A guy I used to work with married a girl from Oz. I am close to the US border and Buffalo, NY. I believe that you can get WNED, which a PBS station from Buffalo, on the internet. Brooks and Shields really didn't waste words about Trump's insanity last Friday night.

Apparently in 2013 Oprah made the comment that Athists cannot feel awe and wonder.

misstuffy comments on Jan 13, 2018:

While I have always admired Oprah ( she does do a lot of good) I disagree with her statement in that regards. I am in awe everytime I look up at the star filled night sky and wonder what/who else is out there in the cosmos. I feel it when one of my does gives birth to new life and am humbled when a ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 16, 2018:

@misstuffy Yes, for sure, Elizabeth Warren. Any time I see/hear her speaking she makes sense.

Martin Luther King Jr said: Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.

Kayleigh-a comments on Jan 15, 2018:

That is a particularly good quote from King. I hope one day the world will be a more unified and welcoming place.

Diogenes replies on Jan 16, 2018:

@Kayleigh-a I wasn't contradicting you about King's quote; but the world and the people in it are not always "welcoming".

Martin Luther King Jr said: Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.

Kayleigh-a comments on Jan 15, 2018:

That is a particularly good quote from King. I hope one day the world will be a more unified and welcoming place.

Diogenes replies on Jan 15, 2018:

It's not a matter of being a 'decent person'; it's a matter of who one comes in contact with also being decent.

Martin Luther King Jr said: Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.

Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jan 15, 2018:

I scoff at the notion that violence isn't warranted sometimes. Try negotiating with a serial killer, or an invading army, or a person who has it ingrained in their brain that you are lower than scum and must be eliminated from the Earth like a Nazi or KKK member.

Diogenes replies on Jan 15, 2018:

"THAT" is something I agree with. Saying anything else is just covering the truth. Back up far enough- eventually there is no place to back up to.

Martin Luther King Jr said: Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.

VinceRichardson comments on Jan 15, 2018:

This is a great quote.You get back what you dish out in life. Ghandi used the idea to remove British rule in India also,peacefully,using nonviolent civil disobedience . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi The popular citizens groups "Peace People" in Northern Ireland also tapped ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 15, 2018:

Vince, my grandfather was an Orangeman- he loved to hate everyone, even if he had never met them. Don't give me 'they': Catholic or Protestant, resolved anything--- they got tired and bored- and went on to other corruption.

Martin Luther King Jr said: Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.

jeffy comments on Jan 15, 2018:

Good post for any day!

Diogenes replies on Jan 15, 2018:

Yep, honest!

Martin Luther King Jr said: Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.

sassygirl3869 comments on Jan 15, 2018:

Good post for today.

Diogenes replies on Jan 15, 2018:

Sassygirl, you have to stop thinking like me- I am 'crazy'- but even so, not as crazy as about 95% of the rest of the world! Please laugh.

Martin Luther King Jr said: Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.

Treasurehunter comments on Jan 15, 2018:

Religious people can think good thoughts and do good deeds as well. You are a thoughtful and loving lady. I think we should keep our minds and hearts open to our fellows.

Diogenes replies on Jan 15, 2018:

YES

Martin Luther King Jr said: Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.

Jack-of-scythes comments on Jan 15, 2018:

What defines us is the compassion that we share. We are uplifted by our actions.

Diogenes replies on Jan 15, 2018:

"Uplifted by our 'good' actions". I have made some 'bad actions' in my life- and I will remember them 'forever'- which I feel is just punishment. Don't do evil things in the first place.

Apparently in 2013 Oprah made the comment that Athists cannot feel awe and wonder.

LennyP49 comments on Jan 13, 2018:

Deepok Chopra is no better than a street corner psychic. He does impart some decent advice regarding meditation, but the rest of his spiel is BS. OPrah has a tendency to promote the merits of "experts" without a strong knowledge of their reputation among their peers. She promoted Dr. Oz who sells ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 15, 2018:

@misstuffy Yep about "between choices"; Oprah may be a part-time miscreant, but Trump is 'dedicated', full-time, to his thievery.

Apparently in 2013 Oprah made the comment that Athists cannot feel awe and wonder.

misstuffy comments on Jan 13, 2018:

While I have always admired Oprah ( she does do a lot of good) I disagree with her statement in that regards. I am in awe everytime I look up at the star filled night sky and wonder what/who else is out there in the cosmos. I feel it when one of my does gives birth to new life and am humbled when a ...

Diogenes replies on Jan 15, 2018:

Misstuffy I agree with you, but being in Canada, I have no "choice", but Sanders would have been mine. Remember, Sanders, being human, would have also have made mistakes--- but that is a far cry from trying to find as much evil, and doing as much evil, as he can.

Apparently in 2013 Oprah made the comment that Athists cannot feel awe and wonder.

FrayedBear comments on Jan 12, 2018:

Who is Oprah Winfrey?

Diogenes replies on Jan 15, 2018:

@FrayedBear As far as TV watching- it does grind the brain down. I don't know what percentage is just pure garbage. 95%? But then PBS has some excellent programs too!

Apparently in 2013 Oprah made the comment that Athists cannot feel awe and wonder.

FrayedBear comments on Jan 12, 2018:

Who is Oprah Winfrey?

Diogenes replies on Jan 15, 2018:

Isn't she one of the world's important people- the one who cured cancer?

Martin Luther King Jr said: Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.

Geophrii comments on Jan 15, 2018:

Just because god doesn't exist, just because there are things in the Bible that are immoral, does not mean that everyone who has religion is incapable of intrinsic good or morality, as is evidenced by MLK.

Diogenes replies on Jan 15, 2018:

YES, right on; but personally, I must admit to a dislike for 'self-indulgent' atheists too. Man-made gods or millions of "one true gods" are satire, obviously- but regardless of this, there are good people of all stripes, religious or secular.

Are you bothered that we count time based on when Jesus was supposedly born?

Druvius comments on Jan 1, 2018:

No, It's pretty arbitrary in any event. Maybe someday there will be some globe shattering event that will make us want to restart. As an aside, boy, some Christians can get as worked up about BCE and CE as they do about Happy Holidays.