A map of the world according to fish? And operantly it's flat. 😜

Fernapple comments on Nov 27, 2022:

Beautiful too.

Don't say it, don't say it ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 27, 2022:

Keep Yule Pagan.

What if we are wrong?

Fernapple comments on Nov 27, 2022:

I am not wrong because I am quite certain that I don't know, and freely admit it, how can honesty be wrong ? And if there is a god, how do you know that which of the innumerable presented and contradictory versions are correct , if any ? And if there is a god, and you want to play Pascals Wager, then how do you know that it does not prefer atheists and agnostics ? It seems probable that if you want he/she/it to be pleased with you, and it cares. Then being a member of the one group which does not tell it what to do, does not claim to have special knowledge of it, does not claim fake authority in its name, or to speak on its behalf, would probably be the best bet. Appreciate creation may be perhaps the most reliable way to please it, whatever its intentions. While if there is no "It", then showing appreciation for material nature, is the best thing we have, in that case as well.

Hi guys ♥️ I have been avoiding like hell to make a real post for months and I am trying to ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 27, 2022:

Relax, eat healthy, remember you are loved, and don't take anymore shit from anyone. You can tell them that's under doctors advice now.

Ma, correct me when I am wrong...but please do so privately. (I heard a child telling his mother)

Fernapple comments on Nov 26, 2022:

Wise child.

Turkish Creationist Adnan Oktar sentenced to 8,658 years in prison

Fernapple comments on Nov 26, 2022:

Well, a least Turkey seems to be moving in the right direction. Interesting to think that you could almost use the chart as a measure of civilization too, and it would still work.

Colorado Springs LGBTQ club 'shooter' barely able to speak in first court appearance

Fernapple comments on Nov 26, 2022:

I saw the video of his father, and he was barely able to speak despite having no injuries. Could be inherited.

An oldie but goodie.

Fernapple comments on Nov 26, 2022:

A couple of little Irish children, a nine year old boy and girl, go down to the pond for a swim. They have not got costumes, so they just strip off all their clothes, then they stand and look at each other in amazement, and the little boy says. "Wow, I never knew that Catholics were that different."

Guns of the mayflower: not a blunderbuss to be found

Fernapple comments on Nov 25, 2022:

The flintlock is a much simpler mechanism than the wheel-lock, but only became possible as spring steel technology improved, and reliable strong springs became cheap and available.

Hurrah for hobbies and eccentric people.

Fernapple comments on Nov 25, 2022:

For those who can not choose what they do to earn a living, hobbies are a chance of fulfillment and creativity. For those who do get to choose their work, they provide balance and a sense of proportion.

Last night, I had a dream that my deceased sister called me on the phone.

Fernapple comments on Nov 25, 2022:

The Dream-time myth. https://aboriginaldreamtime.com.au/what-is-dreamtime/

Entirely predictable. [yahoo.com]

Fernapple comments on Nov 24, 2022:

Sometimes people will do the right thing in spite of you, and in spite of having done the wrong thing in the past, especially when they see which way the tide is flowing. Too bad if you expect otherwise.

Am I the only one who doesn't give a rat's ass about the World Cup?

Fernapple comments on Nov 23, 2022:

Nope, there are two of us at least. Do you want to meet up for a quiet drink somewhere in the woods, far from all media coverage ?

Proposed National Monument, Avi Kwa Ame (Spirit Mountain) - A Visual Journey

Fernapple comments on Nov 23, 2022:

Why on earth would you not. OK I know its a promo video, but you can still tell that it is a wonderfully beautiful place despite any hype. On the bucket list now.

For an all powerful, know it all, this Xstian God is pretty shy, almost as if he never existed ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 22, 2022:

And given that at the time, he only chose to send his message to about one percent of the worlds population at best, he is very racist as well.

Can you be resistant to penicillin?

Fernapple comments on Nov 22, 2022:

Do people really need to have this explained to them ? What has happen to the basic education system and the information media ?

Mary was raped by another human being, Joseph was an old widower who saved her by marriage from ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 22, 2022:

Given the almost total lack of valid evidence from that region in the first century CE, anything is possible. ( And that is assuming, that the listed events did occur in the first century. ) Though certainly, given that, at that time the eastern Mediterranean, was almost completely under the sway of the popular and admired Greek culture. Which saw homosexuality as a respected part of male culture and intellectual life. Then it is quite possible that Jesus and his followers, were probably one of many groups of men, including some Jews, who were following the fashion of the time by being, to a degree, openly gay, in order to show their commitment to modernity.

I don't care if they want to live by their rules, just don't try to impose them on me.

Fernapple comments on Nov 21, 2022:

No, I go a little bit further than that. I am not only concerned that they do not try to impose on me, but I also find, that I care about their many own members, who are only held in the cult by duress or deception against their true wellbeing.

I can think of at least two books that I wish more would apply this bit of advice too.

Fernapple comments on Nov 20, 2022:

Nor, think it is proof, because the book is old. People were liars always.

Bacon fact ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 20, 2022:

Groan.

I sneak into my Buddhist neighbor's house and ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 20, 2022:

That is OK, Buddha would be happy they fed a hungry dog, all life should be given compassion.

This is a page from my book, "Food for Thought".

Fernapple comments on Nov 20, 2022:

Not just in the seventies and eighties.

Twitter poll says Trump should be allowed back.

Fernapple comments on Nov 20, 2022:

Sorry, I believe in free speech, and think that Trump shoots himself in the foot, every time he opens his mouth now anyway, so the more that you give him free speech, the more he will fade away. BUT. Twitter does not equate to free speech, Twitter is just one of many private social media platforms. And while I respect everyones right to free speech, I do not think it wrong if someone says. "You may not use my front lawn to hold your rally."

there is no one here to talk to

Fernapple comments on Nov 20, 2022:

We are all listening, but you have to amuse us to get a reply.

“Nature has given man one tongue, but two ears, that we may hear twice as much as we ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 20, 2022:

"May."

Why the Ten Commandments have No place in public schools!!! We are NOT a Christian nation, hence ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 19, 2022:

And yet in Northern Europe where many countries have state churches, Christianity is almost gone, and exist only in nominal largely harmless forms. While in America where it was privatized and therefore set free, it still thrives, and in its worst forms.

So Twitter now regards a picture of a meteor as being "intimate": [bbc.

Fernapple comments on Nov 17, 2022:

Would be funny if it was not so sad.

Proving ATHEISM .Talk In Conway hall London [freethinker.co.uk] Not many tickets left...

Fernapple comments on Nov 17, 2022:

Sorry but your link does not work.

Nasa's Artemis Moon rocket lifts off Earth [bbc.com]

Fernapple comments on Nov 17, 2022:

And we live in an age when a robot can probably produce more data, than human visitors could in the sixties.

Thanks to the rise of private spaceflight companies, mankind will have a future off-Earth.

Fernapple comments on Nov 16, 2022:

Note : Your future will last exactly one hour forty seconds, then you burn up.

I love these.

Fernapple comments on Nov 16, 2022:

I have read a few sets of rules for life, and those seem to be about the best so far, they will certainly be hard to beat.

On business travel in rural Arkansas, of all places, and found this interesting piece in the only ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 16, 2022:

He did say that his main job was, artists model.

Come along, now.....a walk through the Haunted Forest will do you good.......

Fernapple comments on Nov 16, 2022:

Great.

If there were a god, I would not be bombarded with information about the Kardashians every time I ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 16, 2022:

If there is a God, I hope for his sake that I am not made in his image. And I sure as #### hope the Kardashians are not.

YouTube just terminated Christian hate-preacher Greg Locke's channel

Fernapple comments on Nov 15, 2022:

It wont stop him preaching perhaps, but at least he will be earning a bit less from it now.

Here is an Irish thought.

Fernapple comments on Nov 15, 2022:

The wheel of fortune guide you ; The boy with the bow beside you; Run aye in the way Till the bird of day, And the luckier lot, betide you. Ben Jonson. "The Gypsy Benediction." ( Line two is a bit criptic till you think it through, but its not hard. )

Feeling a little down today ya'll.

Fernapple comments on Nov 15, 2022:

You did the right thing. Getting a person from a shelter to at least go and speak with her would be good, they may know how to build trust, and it does not all have to be on your shoulders.

The lie that invented racism | John Biewen - YouTube

Fernapple comments on Nov 15, 2022:

If you are not active against it, you are supporting it.

Recent Bronze Statues Unearthed In Tuscany

Fernapple comments on Nov 14, 2022:

Where , when, why, how, by who ?

Hello dear agnostic friends.

Fernapple comments on Nov 14, 2022:

Hello and welcome, enjoy the site. And yes there are quite a few like you here.

November light......

Fernapple comments on Nov 14, 2022:

In weeds lie salvation. The weeds outlive the weeder.

Why do atheists hate God?

Fernapple comments on Nov 14, 2022:

God is a synonym for the, "argument from authority fallacy."

“A life that is burdened with expectations is a heavy life.

Fernapple comments on Nov 13, 2022:

Expect little, and life will always exceed your expectations.

Holden Caufield always expects the world to be better than it is.

Fernapple comments on Nov 10, 2022:

To honor god by despising his creation. Not really logical don't you think,. But then they tell you that logic is no way to reach god, and you have to leave logic behind when you enter the temple. But then if there is a creator, then surely the rules of logic, maths and the laws of physics are the central part of its creation ? But there I go, being logical again, just can't help it, must be possessed by some evil spirit or something.

Perfect camouflage! 🦋

Fernapple comments on Nov 10, 2022:

Found it yes. Moth.

[weather.com] Since we can't fix stupid we should stop building on the coast

Fernapple comments on Nov 10, 2022:

Building at all, is part of the problem, we should try to use our existing housing stock better.

My daughter told me earlier this evening that she’s pregnant with her second child.

Fernapple comments on Nov 9, 2022:

No you are not alone.

Some sad news for Agnostics Members….

Fernapple comments on Nov 8, 2022:

She should certainly receive my condolences, I thought I had not seen much of her good contributions for a while.

The Word ‘Homosexual’ Is in the Bible by Mistake: The Explosive Documentary That Is Under Attack

Fernapple comments on Nov 8, 2022:

Quoting directly from my King James, printed nineteen thirty, first published sixteen eleven. Leviticus 20:13 " If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death." Guess what. Homosexual, as a word, is a modern one, and they probably did not have a word for it at many periods in the past, that is why they had to describe it. Even if one passage in the bible is a modern mistranslation, it is very unlikely that all of them are. Clear proof of just how dishonest you have to be to support religion.

Had to share this with my Agnostic friends. Source; [prri.org]

Fernapple comments on Nov 8, 2022:

Not a hard guess actually.

Lottery is a sucker's game

Fernapple comments on Nov 8, 2022:

I do not know if it is the same as the UK national lottery, but there is an argument which says that the best bet is only to place bets on none rollovers, since the extra bets placed on rollovers divide the winnings up so much, that it is probable you will actually win less on a rollover.

We hope..they have been winning for awhile.

Fernapple comments on Nov 8, 2022:

I would still have an escape plan ready. I here Iceland is quite nice.

Do you agree?

Fernapple comments on Nov 7, 2022:

I hope not.

Mystery of genetics or adoption?

Fernapple comments on Nov 5, 2022:

Quite close to a Mendelian ratio though. Give kitty the benefit of the doubt.

You are the sum of your parts…

Fernapple comments on Nov 5, 2022:

Yes but I would think that the value goes down with age. Makes me worth about three dollars fifty.

A grad student just told me that Julius Caesar brought Christianity to England in 55 BCE; she wanted...

Fernapple comments on Nov 4, 2022:

Actually if she quoted the date 55 BCE and did not know why it was changed from BC, and what BC meant in he own Christian tradition. You have a second reason to lay your head on the desk.

Is there a way to see the results of polls? If so, how? Thanks

Fernapple comments on Nov 3, 2022:

Usually they just appear automatically if you open the post.

I had to jargogle you with this twattle…

Fernapple comments on Nov 3, 2022:

It may be different in the US, but at least three of those, Bedward, Hugger Mugger, and Schoolman, are not quite dead in the UK though very rare an old fashioned, in that you are most likely only to encounter them in books now.

Breeding dogs and cats with high probabilities of known diseases is unfair and cruel.

Fernapple comments on Nov 3, 2022:

I have said this before but. If I took a length of steel pipe, and beat a dog so hard that it could not breath or walk properly for the rest of its life. Then I would be charged with animal cruelty in most advanced nations. So why is i different if I do it by breading ?

Learning of all kinds goes on best, lasts best, and tends to lead itself on more when it grows out ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 3, 2022:

How do you infect with interest is the problem.

I received a rather disheartening email today from HAAM (Humanists, Agnostics & Atheists of ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 2, 2022:

All such traditional style organizations have that problem. I earn a large part of my income as a public speaker, and everywhere that I go, clubs and none public institutions are closing down. Few of the young people who work, have the time for them, young people who do not work do not have the resources, and the older generations fade away. While there are more distractions from a wider range of media, and that same media promotes worries and stress to sell its products, so that people do not feel that it is justified to take time and money away from basic survival and hedonism to devote to good works. Or it maybe that our social world is just becoming digital, and that old style clubs and institutions are just out of date and are now replaced by public media platforms.

From our graceful ageing department:

Fernapple comments on Nov 2, 2022:

Got out of bed too quickly. ( Speaking from experience. )

“The wise are instructed by reason, average minds by experience, the stupid by necessity, and ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 2, 2022:

Very good, though I think that the basic saying, of which I have heard several versions, long predates Cicero.

A-HA! ……how the Norwegian pop group helped to pioneer the electric car revolution in the ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 2, 2022:

It is also interesting to learn that Norway, is investing much of its oil revenue in a "pension fund" for the whole country, for when the oil runs out or is switched off.

TESTING LOGIC ON the basis that it is possible to test logical thinking and WITHOUT ...

Fernapple comments on Nov 1, 2022:

I agree that the expectant mother should always have the veto. But given that, I fail to see the point of involving the others at all, since their involvement would affect nothing. Indeed, there are only weak reasons for even informing them, and lots of good reasons for allowing the mother to keep her expectancy secret, if she wishes. The only time that the mothers wishes should perhaps be in any way made secondary to anyone else's, is perhaps in the case of mothers, with health, and mental health issues, who are to some degree dependent on others for care. But the issues in those cases would be many and extremely complex, and I don't see such complex issues ever being debated well and intelligently, in primitive countries and cultures, who can not even debate issues of fetus life at all, in an intelligent way, or even without invoking the opinions of preliterate and prescience tribes, who have been lost for thousands of years, if they ever existed.

Soooo, since humanoids tamed fire, they have slept near one, whether in jungles or tundra, as we see...

Fernapple comments on Nov 1, 2022:

Nice post, something original. I did hear that an important part the theory is that, the red light of fire does not matter so much, it is the blue daylight end of the spectrum which stops you sleeping well. Candles, oil lamps, red filtered bulbs and firelight are fine. Personally I find that moonlight is quite a pain, and I like to have thick curtains when the moon is full.

Fernapple comments on Nov 1, 2022:

"Get out and smell the flowers."

You were right. The message was an old scam.

Fernapple comments on Nov 1, 2022:

Reasonably good customer service and quick.

“Success is not a random act.

Fernapple comments on Oct 31, 2022:

Everything is random.

Musk is walking talking proof, that you don’t have to be too bright to be a successful ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 31, 2022:

A disconnect from reality could well be a help in some spheres. Such as when trying to raise funds, from other people who also want to unplug.

Boardom......

Fernapple comments on Oct 31, 2022:

God must be an ostrich, after all Jesus only manages to get his face on pieces of toast, inside a plank of wood has to be a lot more difficult.

When someone's mind is said to be corrupted or indoctrinated with bad information: why is it called...

Fernapple comments on Oct 31, 2022:

I think that it came from an early cold war myth, that there was a method in use, which did indeed involve emptying the brain of memories first, and then putting new ones back. We now know that is not possible of course, ( Because you die, among other things. ) but we are talking about a myth from the nineteen forties and fifties, and given the state of progress, that in medical terms, was only just out of the Stone Age compared to today.

Astro Pro - How Many Planets There ACTUALLY Are [youtube.com]

Fernapple comments on Oct 31, 2022:

Lets hope he does do more.

"It says here in this history book that luckily, the good guys have won every time.

Fernapple comments on Oct 31, 2022:

They say of course. "Only the winners get to write the history books." But sometime neutrals may write them too, so it could be true, that the bad guys, do more often lose, perhaps because they find it hard to win support, and easy to get opposition. Its possibly very complex.

By the way, I got a Covid booster last Thursday.

Fernapple comments on Oct 31, 2022:

I have had two of each, both the AZ and the F. and I found in both cases that there was almost no reaction to the first shot at all, but the second shot made me quite ill for a couple of days. I don't know if that is because the second time your immune system is ready primed, so that it reacts more violently. It is just my hypothesis and could be quite wrong.

There are advantages in being terse.

Fernapple comments on Oct 30, 2022:

Terse = good.

Interesting how a post about belief can trigger some folks. Isn't this agnostic.com?

Fernapple comments on Oct 28, 2022:

We all have beliefs, and as long as they do not harm anyone I would not want to change any. But it would be a very dull site if it was just an echo chamber, indeed there would be no point in coming here. So I relish the open expression of alternate opinions and friendly respectful debate.

Even nuns watch porn, Pope says, warning of risks: [bbc.com] What a load of Papal Bullshit!

Fernapple comments on Oct 27, 2022:

Nun's confession. "It was not really about sex. It was research. It was just that sister Cathrine said, that you could always tell a real breast from one that had implants in it, just by the appearance. So we started watching to see if she could prove her case, and soon after sister Mary said that you could tell also tell a surgically enhanced penis as well, because they did not look natural. So we started looking a lot just to gather evidence and prove them wrong, and that is how we ran up all those hundreds of hours on the bishops account. Though he did say that he did not mind, because he was interested in medical matters too."

Even nuns watch porn, Pope says, warning of risks: [bbc.com] What a load of Papal Bullshit!

Fernapple comments on Oct 27, 2022:

I know, it is very hard these days, when a priest hears a nun's confession, to know if it is real, or if she is faking it. LOL

I'm going to discuss being dead for a moment.

Fernapple comments on Oct 27, 2022:

I am sorry to disagree, but I do not think that there is any such thing as death, or any such state as being dead. There is merely life, and when that life ends there is no life, that is all. Human culture invents many words for things that do not exist, ( Not just dragons and gods. ) in part because of misunderstanding the limited and fudged information our senses send us. Such as dark for example. There is no such thing as dark, only a absence of light, but our senses show us blackness to indicate the absence of light, so our cultures imagine that light must have an opposite, and we name it dark. Likewise cold is not the opposite of heat, but merely its absence, though our senses have evolved to make us avoid places where there is little heat. Because that makes our heat dissipate too fast and that is dangerous to us. So our cultures label our senses instruction with the name "cold", even though heat does not have an opposite. So it is that life does not have an opposite, merely an absence. We label the absence of life "death" as in part also as a convenient short cut, since it it shorter than saying. "Absence of life and the dissipation of our information content by entropy." But we should not confuse terminology with truth.

The sole meaning of life is to serve humanity. - Leo Tolstoy

Fernapple comments on Oct 27, 2022:

No. I don't agree with that one, there are several meanings to life, and they are complimentary for the most part. That is a very literal post Christian interpretation, Leo said many wise things, but this time he fell short.

Not for the faint hearted, maybe good for lunatics.

Fernapple comments on Oct 25, 2022:

You Americans just don't understand cheese.

Why Are Rich Countries So Unhappy? - Freakonomics

Fernapple comments on Oct 25, 2022:

It is true that rich countries are full of people trying to sell you stuff. Not just consumer goods, but things like politics, lifestyle and religion as well. And the first rule of sales is, persuade the victim that they will be unhappy without your product. And the second rule of sales is, persuade the victim that they will be in danger without your product. And the third rule of sales is, persuade the victim that they will be disrespected without your product.

She seems nice!?! 👀 [yahoo.com]

Fernapple comments on Oct 25, 2022:

I do hope that you stay away from dating sites, there are some very strange people out there, and I would hate it if something nasty happened to you.

How do you respond to the question "Do you believe in God?

Fernapple comments on Oct 25, 2022:

I come from the UK, so I would probably say. "Wow fun, you are the first one ever." Then. "No of course not, do I look weird ?"

Summer is almost over!

Fernapple comments on Oct 24, 2022:

Just time to fill the last few cells with honey, and seal them down with wax. Five or six kilos needed at least for a long winter.

We MUST ALWAYS TAKE SIDES: Neutrality helps the oppressor.

Fernapple comments on Oct 23, 2022:

Yes but when there are two oppressors, you have to be careful to take the third side.

I actually prefer it!

Fernapple comments on Oct 22, 2022:

The two are not mutually exclusive. LOL

How is one supposed to deal with the irony of life? Examine it, or just laugh?

Fernapple comments on Oct 22, 2022:

Live ironically. Feel the force of the irony moving through you, and become the bald monkey you were meant to be.

“History reminds us that dictators and despots arise during times of severe economic ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 22, 2022:

In hard times people look for simple solutions.

Ring, ring.

Fernapple comments on Oct 22, 2022:

No, he would not have minded that, don't forget, that he gets fifty or sixty people every day, who are far ruder than you were. Other amusing methods include. Pretend to be a robot answering machine. Pretend that you do not speak English yourself. Start telling him about your complex and invented mental problems. Start making sexual remarks of an extreme form. Tell him you only work here and the owner is out, and you are not really allowed to answer the phone. But do remember that. He is probably very poor, may well live in some third world hell hole, and that he is only doing the dismal phone work to feed his family, or buy very expensive medications for his sick relatives from the same people who, overcharge him for the one room, that six or eight of his family (four generations ) live in, who also make large deductions from the tiny wages they also pay him, for a twelve hour day, even before he then pays the same people the rent.

“The most valuable of all talents is never using two words when one will do”………… Thomas...

Fernapple comments on Oct 21, 2022:

"Double you, double you, double you." Or. "World wide web. Why say nine syllables, when three, maybe four, will do ?

We Need a General Election Now 47,320 have signed David Marley’s petition.

Fernapple comments on Oct 21, 2022:

Its a bit like the Ship of Theseus paradox. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus When there is less than half the cabinet you voted for, ( or not ) is it still the same government that was voted for ?

Fundamentalism: Menace II Society Here's the latest episode of a podcast I enjoy.

Fernapple comments on Oct 21, 2022:

Sorry to say the podcast does not work in my country.

Rural Atheists

Fernapple comments on Oct 21, 2022:

Fairly, not that rural by US standards, but very rural for the UK.

Why are they called "C" clamps when, in reality, they are "D" clamps?

Fernapple comments on Oct 21, 2022:

In the UK, they are called "G" clamps.

Clever people are often successful, they are great opportunists who barely miss chances.

Fernapple comments on Oct 20, 2022:

Clever people are not interested in success, only achievement.

Trump Just Blew Up His Rape Lawsuit Defense

Fernapple comments on Oct 19, 2022:

Oh! He is so good at clever tactical moves, you should make him president. LOL

What was a turning point in your life?

Fernapple comments on Oct 19, 2022:

I feel that life was more of a continuing curve of growth in many ways. But yes, there were several important books, deciding to give up payed work and go into business for myself, getting married, her death, finding a lasting friendship, and going aboard to a country with an entirely different culture for the first time ( Islamic. ), were all important turning points.

Here's a few tips to dress up your people skills.

Fernapple comments on Oct 19, 2022:

My wife used to snore like a horse, for the first half hour every night. I loved it, it was like a loud lullaby. ( Mind you it was only the first half hour, may have been different if it went on all night. )