What is something (besides religion) commonly believed to be true that is actually not?

ZantiMisfit comments on Aug 30, 2020:

The idea that you need a romantic partner to be a complete person. There's plenty of people who are happily single and plenty of miserable people in relationships.

Fernapple replies on Aug 30, 2020:

Hey , I got two legs, two arms, two hands and three eyes, I am a complete person.

Then there is this....

Fernapple comments on Aug 30, 2020:

Groan.

Fernapple replies on Aug 30, 2020:

@MissKathleen Each to their own. I thought it was very contrived, not that it was not so bad it was almost funny, and the groan was meant with affection..

I posted this in another group, but thought it would go well here too.

Sticks48 comments on Aug 28, 2020:

""Badgers!, We don't need no stinking badgers!" :) How very cool to get that close to them.

Fernapple replies on Aug 28, 2020:

European badgers don't smell that bad. Sorry it just another reason to leave the states.

So where did that water in the oceans come from?

barjoe comments on Aug 28, 2020:

If they still believe the literal story of Noah's Ark, no amount of scientific evidence will change their little minds. Interesting piece.

Fernapple replies on Aug 28, 2020:

If it does not agree with the buy-bable, then that just shows you how wrong science is, so you had better not have your vacinations.

The crooked owners of Hobby Lobby continue to fight returning STOLEN artifacts to Iraq.

Fernapple comments on Aug 27, 2020:

The peasant who steals a goose from off the village green, is a criminal. The lord who steals the green from under the geese, is a great public servant. The people with the money get to write the rules.

Fernapple replies on Aug 27, 2020:

@Gwendolyn2018 Thank you.

Has anyone put forward an article for the new magazine yet ? Just wondering.

WonderWartHog99 comments on Aug 26, 2020:

## I suspect there hasn't been a surge of people who want to write illustrated, epic 5,000 word opus so someone else can lay claim on the copyright and not get paid for it. There wasn't anything said what format to upload the stories in. Microsoft Word? Note Pad? Twelve point comic san surf? Are...

Fernapple replies on Aug 27, 2020:

@WonderWartHog99 No it was Admin who gave me the info. The three or four before he starts came out earlier, see the top of the page.

A new substance, solid hydrogen.

RoyMillar comments on Aug 27, 2020:

sounds like an amzing substance if it can be commercially produced

Fernapple replies on Aug 27, 2020:

That is one of the big 'ifs'.

Has anyone put forward an article for the new magazine yet ? Just wondering.

WonderWartHog99 comments on Aug 26, 2020:

## I suspect there hasn't been a surge of people who want to write illustrated, epic 5,000 word opus so someone else can lay claim on the copyright and not get paid for it. There wasn't anything said what format to upload the stories in. Microsoft Word? Note Pad? Twelve point comic san surf? Are...

Fernapple replies on Aug 27, 2020:

@WonderWartHog99 Admin said that he had four, so far. That is in part why I made this post, because I did not want to go first.

Has anyone put forward an article for the new magazine yet ? Just wondering.

WonderWartHog99 comments on Aug 26, 2020:

## I suspect there hasn't been a surge of people who want to write illustrated, epic 5,000 word opus so someone else can lay claim on the copyright and not get paid for it. There wasn't anything said what format to upload the stories in. Microsoft Word? Note Pad? Twelve point comic san surf? Are...

Fernapple replies on Aug 27, 2020:

@WonderWartHog99 Being one of the boring long winded an pompus, I have sent one in. It is fairly serious, and rambling, though I did try to make it a bit of a story, some of them find stories easier than none fiction I am told. So we will see what happens.

Has anyone put forward an article for the new magazine yet ? Just wondering.

WonderWartHog99 comments on Aug 26, 2020:

## I suspect there hasn't been a surge of people who want to write illustrated, epic 5,000 word opus so someone else can lay claim on the copyright and not get paid for it. There wasn't anything said what format to upload the stories in. Microsoft Word? Note Pad? Twelve point comic san surf? Are...

Fernapple replies on Aug 27, 2020:

@WonderWartHog99 Can't argue with that. Sorry, one sentence reply.

Has anyone put forward an article for the new magazine yet ? Just wondering.

WonderWartHog99 comments on Aug 26, 2020:

## I suspect there hasn't been a surge of people who want to write illustrated, epic 5,000 word opus so someone else can lay claim on the copyright and not get paid for it. There wasn't anything said what format to upload the stories in. Microsoft Word? Note Pad? Twelve point comic san surf? Are...

Fernapple replies on Aug 27, 2020:

@WonderWartHog99 Since there is going to be little difference, that I can see, between these articles and a normal post, It is possible that this is just a trap, to get the long winded, boring and pompus moved into a ghetto away from normal members. LOL

Has anyone put forward an article for the new magazine yet ? Just wondering.

WonderWartHog99 comments on Aug 26, 2020:

## I suspect there hasn't been a surge of people who want to write illustrated, epic 5,000 word opus so someone else can lay claim on the copyright and not get paid for it. There wasn't anything said what format to upload the stories in. Microsoft Word? Note Pad? Twelve point comic san surf? Are...

Fernapple replies on Aug 27, 2020:

@WonderWartHog99 The standard format for text on 'this site' not a national or international agreed standard format. Basicaly I do not think that the writers are being asked to format the text themselves, at all, except for inserting photos.

Is human morality (ethics) hard wired or is it a learned behaviour? Or an a adaption of both?

Fernapple comments on Jun 10, 2020:

Since all higher social animals show some forms of morality, which is to a degree certainly hard wired, the real question is. Why would humans be the exception ? Everything has to be hard wired at the bottom of it. As Marionville below says. "Human survival from out earliest ancestor's time has ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 27, 2020:

@Atheist3 No, evolution by natural selection can be and perhaps usually is a factor causing extinction. Competition between members of the species, will often drive it to develop extreme adaptions, until a point is reach where even a slight change in the environment, which are not even remotely catastrophic for most species, will cause extinction.

Has anyone put forward an article for the new magazine yet ? Just wondering.

Sgt_Spanky comments on Aug 26, 2020:

Is religious satire and parody allowed? I've got some good ideas if it is.

Fernapple replies on Aug 27, 2020:

I think you can submit anything, you just have to be not too sad if it gets kicked out.

Has anyone put forward an article for the new magazine yet ? Just wondering.

David1955 comments on Aug 26, 2020:

I may be wrong, but I'm guessing this magazine will have a lot of long posts recycled, particularly from the more hobby horse enthusiasts around here. Know what I mean?

Fernapple replies on Aug 27, 2020:

Yes that was my worry, especially as it seems that the articles may be published on the main feed as well.

If you are elected as the leader of your country, what is the very first thing you would do for your...

Fernapple comments on Aug 26, 2020:

In the UK. Bottom line from which everything else stems, create a more accountable democratic government system, starting by replacing of the house of lords with a proper second chamber.

Fernapple replies on Aug 26, 2020:

@Jetty Very efficient actualy. No other country has corruption organized so well, that it is not only legal, but built into the political system, and lauded as a great national institution.

Has anyone put forward an article for the new magazine yet ? Just wondering.

WonderWartHog99 comments on Aug 26, 2020:

## I suspect there hasn't been a surge of people who want to write illustrated, epic 5,000 word opus so someone else can lay claim on the copyright and not get paid for it. There wasn't anything said what format to upload the stories in. Microsoft Word? Note Pad? Twelve point comic san surf? Are...

Fernapple replies on Aug 26, 2020:

The format is the standard site format, just like a standard post. The final editing and formating to be done by the appointed editors.

Africa declared free of wild polio in 'milestone' [bbc.com]

Fernapple comments on Aug 25, 2020:

Yep, just two countries left now where it still lingers. And I don't suppose it has anything whatever to do with those two countries being extreme theocracies with strong anti-progressive agendas. (That's sarcasm by the way.)

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

@FearlessFly Quite.

Holy Hate: The Far Right’s Radicalization of Religion

Triphid comments on Aug 25, 2020:

Yes it sickens me to the core that Christianity and Islam in particular see themselves as being 'the One True Religion with the One True God' and MUST make everyone else the same as them and will, so often, use whatever means necessary to force their insane beliefs on everyone else. And yet the ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

Its the fact that religions does not require you to offer an iota of proof, that makes it attractive to the criminal with insane beliefs. Not to bore you, but my comment above goes deeper.

Africa declared free of wild polio in 'milestone' [bbc.com]

Fernapple comments on Aug 25, 2020:

Yep, just two countries left now where it still lingers. And I don't suppose it has anything whatever to do with those two countries being extreme theocracies with strong anti-progressive agendas. (That's sarcasm by the way.)

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

@FearlessFly Yes but, why did OBL choose those countries as a hide out anyway ? Not trying to white wash the CIA, but sometimes neither the victim nor the perp. has anything to be proud of.

Sister Mary was in the laundry doing the washing for the convent, when she spilled the liquid soap ...

Gnarloc comments on Aug 24, 2020:

Alms, not arms.

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

@Gnarloc I was going to say that maybe they had a gun dealership , as a sideline.

Things I do in the middle of the night.

barjoe comments on Aug 25, 2020:

Talk show hosts may or may not be idiots, the fact they aren't schooled in physics shouldn't make that the case. That' just your assessment

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

@barjoe I think I will stick with F###ers then. Unless that annoys celibates.

THE EVOLUTION OF MORALITY: Recently while roaming through YouTube, looking for a good ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 25, 2020:

Is god moral because humans made god in their own image, or are humans moral because god made humans in its own image ? Its basically a chicken and egg argument. But since the existence of morality in none human animals is clearly demonstrable, it is plain that god is not needed for morality, ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

@Green_Soldier71 Thank you.

Ever just feel like Fannie Lou Hamer said, "I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.

Green_Soldier71 comments on Aug 25, 2020:

What's wrong hankster?

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

People come and go, and come back again on this site. Sometimes they are ill, or busy, rarely they don't come back at all and we never know, but most come back.

Things I do in the middle of the night.

barjoe comments on Aug 25, 2020:

Talk show hosts may or may not be idiots, the fact they aren't schooled in physics shouldn't make that the case. That' just your assessment

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

@barjoe No that one is not PC either, since imbecile was once a medical diagnosis. Which was taken out when people started to get upset by it. Twit is good, as is fool, but idiot is maybe not really acceptable any longer, because of its original classical meaning, which is being brought back.

Things I do in the middle of the night.

barjoe comments on Aug 25, 2020:

Talk show hosts may or may not be idiots, the fact they aren't schooled in physics shouldn't make that the case. That' just your assessment

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

@barjoe Sorry, stand corrected, write in haste repent in church.

Things I do in the middle of the night.

Marionville comments on Aug 25, 2020:

He’s also rather gorgeous I think! Did you know he was once in a pop/rock band called D-ream? Here he is on keyboards, https://youtu.be/4uSMCtmG__o

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

Sorry but I think that there are a few million other women in line ahead of you.

Things I do in the middle of the night.

barjoe comments on Aug 25, 2020:

Talk show hosts may or may not be idiots, the fact they aren't schooled in physics shouldn't make that the case. That' just your assessment

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

Sometimes they are also playing stupid to make the questions that they think, perhaps rightly, that the morons who make up their viewing public would ask.

Would you like us to have an Agnostic online magazine?

Fernapple comments on Aug 24, 2020:

Why limit it to articles about non-belief, to make it more interesting why not have a limited number of sub -sections , maybe only five or six, such as politics, science, lifestyle etc. Don't allow huge numbers of groups, but do allow people who want to read, to access it selectively through the ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

@MarkiusMahamius Not quite it would after all be more in depth, and sellected for quality. Which is why I was asking if it would be more visible to none members, since it would perhaps be more of a flagship.

Watching a movie tonight, and it strikes me, it takes a very brave man to tell what he thinks is the...

Fernapple comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Every fiction exists in a fictional world, where the laws of nature are altered to accommodate the fiction. And every fiction comes with the hidden agendas of its creator, which existed within the fictional world within the mind which created it. It is therefore twice removed from reality. ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

@LuckyOne3 The greater mass of nearly all human culture. Take for example the old argument used by sceptics against theists. Quoted by WilliamCharles only today in the quotes group. "I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." .Stephen F Roberts The vast majority of human cultures contain a few small important truths. Like for example. It is not a good idea to have children with your siblings. But it does not mater one jot, if that is told to you by Zeus, Yahway, or the institute for national genetics, and the history of all those institutions is all but irrelevant to the fact. Yet 99.99% of education is spent on learning about human culture which is a different thing in every town, village and church, so that in the end so much time is spent on that that the truths people really should know are lost, to many. So that you can live in a world where people can emerge from their states education system, without any real understanding of genetics, but the knowledge that Zeus married his sister. This is a little gift enjoy. https://www.langspace.com/en/video/10563044547495615

Sister Mary was in the laundry doing the washing for the convent, when she spilled the liquid soap ...

Gnarloc comments on Aug 24, 2020:

Alms, not arms.

Fernapple replies on Aug 25, 2020:

Thank you I forgot that, not a word I often use. Put right.

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barjoe comments on Aug 24, 2020:

Acceptable? I can't believe that poll. I'd like to see the question they actually asked and how it was worded. I can't believe anyone would say 175K deaths was acceptable.

Fernapple replies on Aug 24, 2020:

@barjoe Yep. There was once a British comedy show, where a government minster is asked to approve a survey, with two alternate questions. 1. Do you think that the government should introduce national service, to give young people purpose and discipline? 2. Do you think the government should give young people free weapons, and then let them loose on the streets ?

PARTISAN WARP BUBBLES, TRUMP LIES AGAIN, AND OTHER NEWS AND LINKS: [united-cats.com]

barjoe comments on Aug 24, 2020:

Acceptable? I can't believe that poll. I'd like to see the question they actually asked and how it was worded. I can't believe anyone would say 175K deaths was acceptable.

Fernapple replies on Aug 24, 2020:

The the part of the pole quoted was just the republicans, and even that was quite a small margin.

I'm not a very fashionable sort, but i hope eating liver never becomes trendy.

Fernapple comments on Aug 23, 2020:

Ah, pate on crackers, with a little cream cheese and a glass of dark stout.

Fernapple replies on Aug 23, 2020:

@barjoe OK smart ass, I was being poetic. LOL

“I don’t need you to remind me of my age.

Pralina1 comments on Aug 23, 2020:

And a mirror . Damn it . Someone was complimenting on my boots few months ago . “ nice boots , where u got them from “? And I had to say , oh , they are 15 yrs old . Then I realized , the girl who asked was 22sh . To her , I must look like a velociraptor at least 😂.

Fernapple replies on Aug 23, 2020:

I have socks older than your friend.

“I don’t need you to remind me of my age.

Fernapple comments on Aug 23, 2020:

Right foot.

Fernapple replies on Aug 23, 2020:

@Marionville Damaged ligament in.

looking for female communication. friendship, dating, or e-mail pal.

Fernapple comments on Aug 21, 2020:

Hello and welcome enjoy the site, and if you have time check out the groups there is something for everyone. Though it has to be said that the dating side of the site is not one of its strong points, it is perhaps better to enjoy the social side of the site, and you never know you may be a lucky ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 23, 2020:

@Green_Soldier71 Beware the site pedant. "The female of the species, is far more deadly than the male." LOL (Written with the deepest affection, I really love a good bit of pedantry.)

Question for you all concerning the terms atheist and agnostic.

Fernapple comments on Aug 22, 2020:

Basically I am agnostic, but I am happy to call myself atheist, soft atheist, humanist, none theist, none believer, in fact any label you like. Because this question comes up every now and again, so I prefer to write about something more interesting. ABOUT MUFFINS. I see that the issue of ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 22, 2020:

@LiterateHiker Yes, well I keep the Muffin story on a file to copy and paste, I always think that new members deserve a reply, even though we may have seen it all before.

A note to all of you who continue to doubt me (re: consciousness)

Fernapple comments on Aug 22, 2020:

Hello jeff glad you are well. So which Dead thinker/philosopher/scientist are you making a mockery of today ?

Fernapple replies on Aug 22, 2020:

@JeffMesser Sorry if not then, can you then provide the list of people who peer reviewed this hypothesis ?

A note to all of you who continue to doubt me (re: consciousness)

Fernapple comments on Aug 22, 2020:

Hello jeff glad you are well. So which Dead thinker/philosopher/scientist are you making a mockery of today ?

Fernapple replies on Aug 22, 2020:

@JeffMesser I can write to a acknowledged expert on Newtonian physics, or on the life of Newton himself. But that's beside the point because I am not proposing any hypothesis.

A note to all of you who continue to doubt me (re: consciousness)

Fernapple comments on Aug 22, 2020:

Hello jeff glad you are well. So which Dead thinker/philosopher/scientist are you making a mockery of today ?

Fernapple replies on Aug 22, 2020:

@JeffMesser Ever thought of writing to a live one, and asking if your hypothesis has any relevance to their work ? Then you could post their reply.

Question for you all concerning the terms atheist and agnostic.

Fernapple comments on Aug 22, 2020:

Basically I am agnostic, but I am happy to call myself atheist, soft atheist, humanist, none theist, none believer, in fact any label you like. Because this question comes up every now and again, so I prefer to write about something more interesting. ABOUT MUFFINS. I see that the issue of ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 22, 2020:

@JeffMurray Thank you. And it is always good to meet people who take care with their reading, and know how to show appreciation.

Well, it happened. Someone that I respect is a Qanon believer. It's so fucking dumb. I just can't.

VeronicaAnn comments on Aug 22, 2020:

What is that? I never heard of that before

Fernapple replies on Aug 22, 2020:

@BufftonBeotch It is said that not all flat earthers are serious. But how do you tell the difference.

Well, it happened. Someone that I respect is a Qanon believer. It's so fucking dumb. I just can't.

VeronicaAnn comments on Aug 22, 2020:

What is that? I never heard of that before

Fernapple replies on Aug 22, 2020:

Its a fringe political cult, who practically worship Trump.

been sorting through my files and thought I would share .

Fernapple comments on Aug 21, 2020:

I like it, this is not as good, but here you are.

Fernapple replies on Aug 21, 2020:

@Redneckliberal Just in a field near where I live, Lincolnshire, UK.

Is human morality (ethics) hard wired or is it a learned behaviour? Or an a adaption of both?

Fernapple comments on Jun 10, 2020:

Since all higher social animals show some forms of morality, which is to a degree certainly hard wired, the real question is. Why would humans be the exception ? Everything has to be hard wired at the bottom of it. As Marionville below says. "Human survival from out earliest ancestor's time has ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 21, 2020:

@Atheist3 No natural selection does not insure, species survival, all natural selection is at the genetic or individual level. The idea that species are favoured by natural selection is considered discredited.

Endless jokes about... 😂

OnlyAGhost comments on Aug 20, 2020:

Well, that takes all the fun out of playing golf. 🤣

Fernapple replies on Aug 20, 2020:

It takes a lot of fun out of a lot of other things as well.

Really getting tired of the sites spell check telling me words are misspelled when they are not.

LenHazell53 comments on Aug 20, 2020:

The spell checker on this site uses so called "American English" (there is no such thing, it came about because Webster was a fucking moron who could not spell, but insisted on writing a dictionary anyway) Therefore the "Spell checker" registers all words containing -ou- as a final vowel sound as...

Fernapple replies on Aug 20, 2020:

I try to follow US spelling on this site if possible, since it is American centric, and when in Rome. And I really don't care, if throws someone off center/centre, on how a litre/liter bottle of color/colour is spelled/spelt, its all one flavour/flavor to me, but dam/damn it gets hard sometimes, it just looks so odd.

I'm debating a Christian on morality.

redbai comments on Aug 20, 2020:

I think your issue is that you're arguing whether the Bible is parroting secular morality, when it obviously is parroting as all the moral concepts in the Bible existed PRIOR to the bible. No other argument is necessary as there's nothing original in the book. I would also note that all the things...

Fernapple replies on Aug 20, 2020:

@JeffMurray Yes. Though I am also too much of a sceptic to believe in, universals, platonic ideals, absolutes, or archetypes, etc. , anyway. ( Though not absolutely. LOL )

I'm debating a Christian on morality.

redbai comments on Aug 20, 2020:

I think your issue is that you're arguing whether the Bible is parroting secular morality, when it obviously is parroting as all the moral concepts in the Bible existed PRIOR to the bible. No other argument is necessary as there's nothing original in the book. I would also note that all the things...

Fernapple replies on Aug 20, 2020:

Great post, though I am not sure that I agree with, morality can not improve. Almost everything else, from technology, though science, to communications and education are capable of being improved, and have been at times, (may also regress). And given that morality is a creation which is affected by all four of those things, I think that you can surely say that morality is capable of improvement. At least in so far as some moralities are more likely to appeal more to people with better education, technology, science and communications etc.

I'm debating a Christian on morality.

Silver1wun comments on Aug 20, 2020:

Morality is instinctive. It is inborn and self regulating, like sexuality. Moral codes are not inscribed on stone or papyrus, but upon the pulsating human heart. We humans don't possess a monopoly on morality and don't, in our current pathogenic societies, exemplify it as well as many of our ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 20, 2020:

Great comment. And I love the phrase, "never set paws on" must try to remember that.

How to get masked people to laugh and cover their nose.

BDair comments on Aug 19, 2020:

What the facts are. https://youtu.be/XIhQnqmiG6I

Fernapple replies on Aug 20, 2020:

Sorry this is dated July the 5th, it is way out of date.

If this did not come from such a credible source, it would be hard to believe. [youtube.com]

Salo comments on Aug 19, 2020:

This is amazing thanks! It does pose some interesting questions though. Can a potential mate tell the difference, or does she have to go investigate every noise she hears, just in case it turns out to be Mr Right? Maybe the mimicry also serves a defensive role, frightening off a predator perhaps?

Fernapple replies on Aug 20, 2020:

Yes I wondered about that too, though he does seem to have a song which is purely his, lyre bird, and is mixed with the mimicry. So perhaps the female homes in on that, and then listens to his impresssions when she gets close.

Isn't it about time we stop erecting monuments to individuals?

Fernapple comments on Aug 19, 2020:

Is not art, much as I love some of its products, just a human vanity project anyway. The idea that some of our handcrafts are somehow, spiritually, (Meaningless word.) raised above others, is just an example of the discredited idea of human exceptionalism. Why is a mural, considered art, but a pair...

Fernapple replies on Aug 19, 2020:

@itsmedammit Thank you. Last time I said something like that on here, all I got was into a long arguement with a dyed in the wool believer, who finished it by blocking me, I think. LOL

Look what Jesus buried! A few of you were asking about the unique pig ears.

barjoe comments on Aug 17, 2020:

You live in Orkney? That's a prehistoric part of Scotland. It's a group of islands. What island do you live on? Are you personally involved in digs? That's totally amazing.

Fernapple replies on Aug 18, 2020:

No its not prehistoric, its still there.LOL

This is so trippy! It might take a while to figure out what’s hidden.

wolf041 comments on Aug 17, 2020:

For those of us who don't see colours well it's a bit of a blur.

Fernapple replies on Aug 17, 2020:

I think not seeing colour may help.

This is so trippy! It might take a while to figure out what’s hidden.

barjoe comments on Aug 17, 2020:

I don't see anything. I tried and tried and tried. I just see a big pile of green leaves.

Fernapple replies on Aug 17, 2020:

Clue, its an animal that may eat the leaves. PS. its the first time I have managed to see one of these, the instruction to put your nose on the screen and draw away really did help, but I think you will need a computer screen, phone wont do.

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kiramea comments on Aug 16, 2020:

I find it interesting that Christians are so unforgiving about abortion, homosexuality, transgender, etc) but ignore the top ten of God's atrocities (10 Commandments).

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

Yes but no one is likely to pay the chuch any money to be forgiven those sins.

Having read the Admin's posts, and the purpose of the group, I'm not sure this is the place - but as...

Sgt_Spanky comments on Aug 15, 2020:

**Step-1;** Development of this site should be entrusted to or at least shared with someone who sees its potential rather than is embarrassed by it. **Step-2;** First resolve Step-1

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@Sgt_Spanky Will do.

Having read the Admin's posts, and the purpose of the group, I'm not sure this is the place - but as...

Sgt_Spanky comments on Aug 15, 2020:

**Step-1;** Development of this site should be entrusted to or at least shared with someone who sees its potential rather than is embarrassed by it. **Step-2;** First resolve Step-1

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@Sgt_Spanky Yes I know, people are jumping overboard fast now. I am still in contact with her by email, so if you want to message her, just let me know.

Having read the Admin's posts, and the purpose of the group, I'm not sure this is the place - but as...

Sgt_Spanky comments on Aug 15, 2020:

**Step-1;** Development of this site should be entrusted to or at least shared with someone who sees its potential rather than is embarrassed by it. **Step-2;** First resolve Step-1

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@Allamanda No, I mean the new manager would not have to self finance it.

Having read the Admin's posts, and the purpose of the group, I'm not sure this is the place - but as...

Sgt_Spanky comments on Aug 15, 2020:

**Step-1;** Development of this site should be entrusted to or at least shared with someone who sees its potential rather than is embarrassed by it. **Step-2;** First resolve Step-1

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

I agree. If admin does not want the site any longer then we should encourage him to hand it on to someone who does. It would be easier perhaps if he allowed adverts instead of trying to self finance it. That would not I think trouble most members and would make it much less daunting for a new manager.

The least weasel, natures smallest. [youtube.com]

Boomtarat03 comments on Aug 15, 2020:

The cuteness is dangerous ☺

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

It always is.

Is human morality (ethics) hard wired or is it a learned behaviour? Or an a adaption of both?

Fernapple comments on Jun 10, 2020:

Since all higher social animals show some forms of morality, which is to a degree certainly hard wired, the real question is. Why would humans be the exception ? Everything has to be hard wired at the bottom of it. As Marionville below says. "Human survival from out earliest ancestor's time has ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@Atheist3 Sorry there is no basis for species level sellection or evolution, species survival does not exist in evolutionary terms.

“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in a storm, a night with no moon, and the ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 15, 2020:

Very poetic.

Fernapple replies on Aug 15, 2020:

@Allamanda Yes for a modern, but it seems he writes historical fantasy, and in the old days perhaps. Remember the Lunar society.

Hi folks! I'm new here, having fun so far.

PondartIncbendog comments on Aug 14, 2020:

I don't know. I'm just here for the free pie.

Fernapple replies on Aug 15, 2020:

They give out free pie ! Why have I been missing out ?

Does anybody else actually 'like' wearing a face mask.

BitFlipper comments on Aug 14, 2020:

I don't enjoy it, but there are many social benefits.

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

People can't see how ugly I am for one.

The biggest enemy of learning is not lies, trying deliberately to mislead.

JackPedigo comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Funny but the 'fake' news claim often comes from those responsible for fake news. It is a sort of fake-fake news group.

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

Yes that is fun. But it was not really fake news as such that I was mainly thinking of, so much as the great bulk of information which is not harmful nor useful. For example all the litrature I was made to learn about at school which was biblically derived, the outdated geography, or in later life, celebrity culture.

Portrait of another village.

Boomtarat03 comments on Aug 14, 2020:

The place looks so quiet💜 I like the pic from 1️⃣ & 3️⃣ ☺

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

It is very quiet and out of the way, you can often drive through it an never encounter anyone or any other car.

You have now been given the ability to travel to any point on the space-time continuum other than ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Hello and welcome enjoy the site. I would go back to the nineteen sixties and seventies, to see if they really were as good as everyone said. I was only a child then and could not understand the big picture. And I would also like to see the countryside again, because I do remember, the abundant ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Cyklone Hedonist !

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@dinoid Game over. LOL Bye.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@dinoid You really have no idea how you are misrepresenting them. Wow.

Does anybody else actually 'like' wearing a face mask.

PondartIncbendog comments on Aug 13, 2020:

I like not being able to be identified. You never know who's watching you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@PondartIncbendog Very droll. LOL

Here's a book review I wrote in 2012 about a friend of mine's book, Golden Rule or Greedy Rule.

Fernapple comments on Aug 12, 2020:

Actually I do not think that you could live by the golden rule and obey the ten commandments. But how can 'unwed' fit the list, since if we lived by the golden rule as you say, we would not need marriage laws any more than the ten commandments.

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@Aristippus The ten commandments are not really that concerned with morals, mostly they are about strengthening the power of the religious establishment. And if the story is to be believed, (Big if.) then the Jesus person died, mainly at the request of the religious establishment, because he challenged the commandments. Certainly he challenged keeping the Sabath, respecting parents, etc. directly.

I know that they are bad for our carbon footprint, and that they help to spread disease, But is ...

AmmaRE007 comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Well there are many people still flying around...

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

A few but not like they did.

I know that they are bad for our carbon footprint, and that they help to spread disease, But is ...

Angelamelek comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Good dramatic angle Fernapple.

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

Thank you, I liked that one because I think the droplets in the window work well too.

I know that they are bad for our carbon footprint, and that they help to spread disease, But is ...

Allamanda comments on Aug 13, 2020:

I've never taken planes for 'fun', only for family trips and work, and of course have no way to know if we'll ever be able to afford to in the future... but yes, the confinement is irksome to everyone I think.

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@Allamanda I have given up trying to guess what the human race will do, but the younger generation are changing the debate, so perhaps they just need a little of the short time we have. Someone asked, I think on here, the other day. "Why are young people today so sure they are right." And my only thought beside, young people always think they are right, was. Perhaps because they are.

I know that they are bad for our carbon footprint, and that they help to spread disease, But is ...

Allamanda comments on Aug 13, 2020:

I've never taken planes for 'fun', only for family trips and work, and of course have no way to know if we'll ever be able to afford to in the future... but yes, the confinement is irksome to everyone I think.

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@Allamanda Depends, its a complex subject. Certainly unless electric road transport becomes the norm, and the world can generate enough electricity from none carbon means, then our present road use is a slow burn disaster. Rail, sea an air travel certainly add a lot to that, but it is important not to get carried away by the often mindless retoric. A lot of flack is, for example, aimed at air travel by the 'green' lobby, probably because it is high profile and often seen as a luxury for the rich developed world. But you have to remember that the carbon footprint of a flight is only a quarter that of a car journey, per passenger, when once the distance exceeds five hundred miles.

I know that they are bad for our carbon footprint, and that they help to spread disease, But is ...

Allamanda comments on Aug 13, 2020:

I've never taken planes for 'fun', only for family trips and work, and of course have no way to know if we'll ever be able to afford to in the future... but yes, the confinement is irksome to everyone I think.

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

No, but of course you do not have to be traveling for fun to enjoy the journey. And you have to wonder what sort of a closed down, increasingly zenophobic world we may end up with if people stop traveling.

Does anybody else actually 'like' wearing a face mask.

Pralina1 comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Dust allergy is hard to deal w it 🙁. I am sorry . Are there any inhalers for breakthrough or meds u can take ?

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

Its very mild, may not even be a true allergy, just a bit of pepperiness and sniffles when the air is dirty, So no, a mask is good but in youth I suffered for a true allergy, so I know the side effect of the meds and would not go back to that again.

I just wondered.

Pralina1 comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Yes . “ get a life “ is a saying here . Does not matter to them whatever we can possibly say . They are convinced that covid is not as harmful as we say , and they are convinced that there is no real danger . Evolution is a very slow process .

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

It is when you are stuck with the just old fashioned form by natural sellection.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@dinoid I know that the Hamiltonian is real and the Hoffman too, that is why your misrepresenting of them is so bad.

I just wondered.

AnonySchmoose comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Yes it is said here! Protest masks? A lot like: protest seat belts, imo . . . .

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

Well yes, but I think that it is even sillier than seat belts. After all seat belts only protect you, and if you are prepared to ignore the costs to family and friends, plus the raised cost of medical insurance, you can just about make a case against seat-belts as a demand for freedom, you are stupid if you do, but you can. Whereas masks protect everyone, and the cost is trivial.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@dinoid I can see different packets of energy, because the different packets are there. Energy 'may', (and even that is on the questionable fringe of physics,) exist as one entity at the particle and quantum level. But there is no reason to assume that it exists as such in other states, such as biology. Separation is an emergent property at levels above those of theoretical particle physics, because separation is essential to the increase of complexity and is therefore the first stage in the growth of information. A block of brass for example contains only a limited amount of information. But if I cut it up into smaller units the information level increases, and if I shape those units into a clock then the contained level of information increases again. But the first level of increasing complexity and information always has to be separation.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@dinoid Yes but your answers are completely supernatural, you are borrowing what you call scientific facts for completely different fields of science, and connecting them to draw conclutions. You can not do that and retain scientific integrity, since to do that means having testable, falsifiable evidence checked by experiment, at every stage. Borrowing scientific theory and using it to build vast piles of speculative hyopthesis, way beyond what it was intended to mean, into the realms of supernatural woo, is I think just about the most insulting use of it possible.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@dinoid It is insulting to the scientists to misuse the scientific facts (as you call them) they created. PS there are no such things as scientific facts, science does not deal in facts, only theories and experimental evidence.

I joined this site a couple years ago.

Fernapple comments on Aug 12, 2020:

Congrats, felt sure you would make it. ( Wait till you get the invoice for the T-shirt. LOL )

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@whiskywoman Perhaps they think that only men are that lacking in taste, and they don't want them comming back.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@dinoid Then why are you reaching for the supernatural.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@dinoid No I do suppose that it does not mater much if you get Hamiltons and Hoffmans name correct, since you seem quite happy to insult them in every other way, by even associating them with such rubbish And I am seeing all life forms as individual packet of energy, because al life forms are individual packets of energy.

Narcissists for lunch, anyone?

Fernapple comments on Aug 12, 2020:

Too small, can't read it and it won't enlarge.

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@FrayedBear Thanks.

“Reading furnishes the mind only with materials of knowledge; it is thinking that makes what we ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 12, 2020:

I think someone once made a quote. "Educated way beyond his understanding." But I do not know to who that is attributed.

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Diogenes Good morning to you too. Though I have to say that having viewed your posts and comments for some time, I would say that you have a lot of both. Respect.

“Reading furnishes the mind only with materials of knowledge; it is thinking that makes what we ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 12, 2020:

I think someone once made a quote. "Educated way beyond his understanding." But I do not know to who that is attributed.

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Marionville In some ways the phrase is a good summing of all religion, woo and pseudo-science.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Allamanda , Jeff, Dr Donald Hoffman is a Psychologist who holds the view that animals brains do not show them an accurate view of the objective material world, like an image on a camera film, but use icons to represent the world made by the conscious brain. Which are only symbolic but can be manipulated by the brain to get the best behaviour for the animals survival. It is a fairly uncontroversial theory, and following it, you would not expect there to be any reason why any two animal species would use the same symbols, a bit like expecting the desk top icons for mail , calculator, or spreadsheet on a Microsoft, Apple or Linux computer to be the same, or even represent the exact same suit of apps. Each animal will have a different set which suits its needs, there is therefore no question to answer, why each animal would (perhaps) have a different set, it would simply be an accident of history. Asking why is just a bullshit question, like asking why some great outer force, (god ?) did not force Microsoft, Linux and Apple all to use the same icons.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

Dear Allamanda, Jeff, Trifid The Hamiltonian is mathematical theorum, in quantum mechanics, which has nothing whatever to do with biology, and it was not even invented by Alexander Hamilton, but by William Rowan Hamilton, ( Alexander was concerned mainly with economics, and also has nothing to do with biology. ) so the name is not even correct. Applying it to biology is a totally illogical step, which can only be based on completely woolly new age thinking and the random use of scientific terms. It has nothing to do with science. PS. There is also a mathematical theory, in graph theory by the same name, which also has nothing to do with biology, and was also not produced by Alexander H.

The controversy rages across the US and the world: to wear a mask or not to wear a mask, and: a ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Sadly I do not think that, "the US and the world" is quite the case. Most of the rest of the world is wondering why there is a controversy in the US at all.

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Cyklone Stupid may be catching and infectious too.

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Fernapple comments on Aug 10, 2020:

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Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@oldFloyd They sound lovely, I don't think that we can get them in the UK, that is a serious problem must look into it. Thank you. It is nice to talk about real and serious things for a change.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Pedrohbds comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Why do you think there is balance in nature? It is exactly the opposite, if there were balance, there would not be any change. Evolution happens exactly because every organism is intrinsically out of balance and needs to collect mass and energy to keep replicating itself, and generating mistakes ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 11, 2020:

I am pleased you wrote this reply, I was not even sure where I wanted to start, you have a lot more patience than me. Respect.

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barjoe comments on Aug 11, 2020:

You have no enemy other than death. Don't be such a coward. Live for today then...fade to black

Fernapple replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@barjoe Santa Claus does not come to children who are really boring. LOL

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Allamanda comments on Aug 10, 2020:

I'm feeling sorry for anyone who didn't know this stuff... I hope they are teaching it to 9-yr olds.

Fernapple replies on Aug 11, 2020:

Why would the pollitcians, religious leaders and capitalists who mainly control and decide what is taught in the worlds schools want that taught ? Education across the world broken and its broken for a reason. That is not a conspiricy theory, it was not planned it is just the way things are.

Moral? Don't be a group of monkeys. Question things you did not dream questionable.

Fernapple comments on Aug 10, 2020:

Nice metaphor, and I would love to think that that was a real experiment, but sadly I think it is just a made up meme. If anyone does have real history please share.

Fernapple replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@SCal Thank you.