We've all been wondering the same things. Why the F am I here?

Fernapple comments on Apr 29, 2021:

Hello and welcome, enjoy the site. Its a fairly normal brand of deism you seem to be expressing, and that is fine with many of us, including me. Since I think that the god question is irrelevant, it is only faith in received folly, religion, or a supposed knowledge of gods purpose and wishes, which really impacts on life, to bad effect. You will perhaps though encounter some on the site who are not friendly to any god idea, however deistic.

Another good question

Fernapple comments on Apr 28, 2021:

Like most religious leaders I suppose, he was only against fornication, when it was other people doing the fornicating.

Biological classification uses taxonomic ranks, including among others (in order from most inclusive...

Fernapple comments on Apr 28, 2021:

Dawkins alway said that the meme theory was mainly a metaphor, not to be taken too literally. But that they should all be considered as mainly parasites, though many are beneficial parasites of course. However, certainly a sort of classification does already exist, since we see memes as parts of subcultures, and subcultures as parts of cultures, so that there is a nesting rank based classification by default already there. Cultures certainly are parasites too, and certainly can cause mental illness, that is observable. But that is where the idea of classification breaks down a little, since memes are a part of a culture, and a culture depends on its memes to live, more like cells within a body than individuals within a species. Yet it does explain neatly, why science and philosophy, are by nature, forced to be anti-cultural, since it is their function to provide the only treatments we have against culture, otherwise known as received folly, and the illnesses caused by that.

Will trump do a PSA for his flock encouraging them to get vaccinated ?

Fernapple comments on Apr 27, 2021:

barjoe posted this the other day. https://agnostic.com/discussion/591888/ozymandias

"Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

Fernapple comments on Apr 27, 2021:

"So." Very simple sentence.

My sister has been fighting a recurrence of cancer for about seven years.

Fernapple comments on Apr 26, 2021:

Sorry to hear that. But they fake offering of prayers, can sometimes conceal real caring, the most deluded of humans can still be human. One small thing is, do not feel you are being selfish, or guilty, if you look after yourself in these times. For should your sister need you then you are much more useful strong and rested.

Spent some fun time with soapy water . . .

Fernapple comments on Apr 25, 2021:

That sort of photo takes a lot more doing than it looks, great shot.

Saturday 4-23-21 I AM & U R - as ALL is - GOD - as Energy in Life – being EVERY thing - ALL ...

Fernapple comments on Apr 25, 2021:

If you want to understand the eternal. Try reading some boring stuff over and over.

Ozymandias

Fernapple comments on Apr 25, 2021:

Always loved that poem, love it even more now. LOL

"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man ...

Fernapple comments on Apr 25, 2021:

At seven, you think your parents know everything. At seventeen, you think they are stupid and the dumbest people on the planet. At twenty seven, you think they were just normal with the failings of their generation. At thirty seven, you think they were really wise, and you were young and foolish once. And at fifty seven, you think that the seventeen year old was right, and stupid has been passed on genetically.

Especially you, Mathew, Mark, Luke and John.

Fernapple comments on Apr 24, 2021:

Mathew, Mark, Luke and John, some sort of heavy metal band ?

Just another service I provide...

Fernapple comments on Apr 24, 2021:

And you are very good at it.

Am I the only one who has adverse reactions to some posters but instead of blocking them, I continue...

Fernapple comments on Apr 24, 2021:

Never blocked anybody, I came to learn and the weirder they are the more I learn, and the more I think they need help sometimes.

Coat them with chocolate and give them out for Halloween?

Fernapple comments on Apr 24, 2021:

Its very true. The secret is, that you can not buy a Brussels Sprout. You have to grow your own, by the time they reach the shops, all that was once good about them is long gone, they keep good for a couple of hours at most after picking.

Today was a rough day, emotionally.

Fernapple comments on Apr 24, 2021:

I am sorry to hear that. Freedom for places like the Ukraine often comes at a high cost, and sadly not all that cost is paid by those who nations celebrate as national hero's.

Today's Republican party is an agitated, schizophrenic admixture of 2 ideologies: (1) an oligarchic...

Fernapple comments on Apr 24, 2021:

Number two, is the bait to keep those who are not oligarchs, voting for those who are. While keeping their attention fixated on the nearly none existent socialist menace, keeps them for noticing that the gold is coming out of their own pockets. While using schools and churches, to stifle real education, stops them developing the mental self sufficiency real education brings, and keeps them digging the gold out of their pockets to buy consumer goods from the oligarchs, in the hopes they will fill the void within. Makes perfect sense really.

When I first started on this site some 3 years ago, most of the posts are genuine personal personal...

Fernapple comments on Apr 24, 2021:

That's the way the web is going as a whole. Plus there are more old established members now who may have shot all their bolts.

A man I deliver parts to still thinks that Trump is really president and going to reappear at any ...

Fernapple comments on Apr 23, 2021:

The one question that conspiracy theorists alway never seem to think about is. Yes, but why would anyone do that anyway?

This is the Orchid Rock Rose.

Fernapple comments on Apr 23, 2021:

This is a wild pink rock rose, I photographed growing wild in Portugal, a couple of years ago when we could still travel.

This is the Orchid Rock Rose.

Fernapple comments on Apr 23, 2021:

The flowers last several days for me, here in England, so it must be a climate thing.

There was a video that was removed soon before a lot had seen it.

Fernapple comments on Apr 22, 2021:

Pity the video was not downloaded and stored.

It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Albert Einstein

Fernapple comments on Apr 22, 2021:

Most of the time it does not.

Just got no. 2. arm hasn't fallen off yet.

Fernapple comments on Apr 21, 2021:

Three weeks yet for me. But I am told your arm does not drop off, you grow a third one.

Unionized...

Fernapple comments on Apr 21, 2021:

It would not work in the UK we are de-ionized.

LOL.

Fernapple comments on Apr 21, 2021:

Wire wool used to be made in the past, by those who sent incomprehensible telegrams.

If god were real, the god of the bible's death toll would be 3 to 20 million people and quite a few ...

Fernapple comments on Apr 21, 2021:

Small qualification. The plagues of Egypt, god sent a satan, (there may be more than one ) to do the job for him. So they both did it.

i love it when you smile

Fernapple comments on Apr 21, 2021:

Hello and welcome, enjoy the site, and do look into the groups, there is something for everyone.

Saving the world one corndog at a time.

Fernapple comments on Apr 21, 2021:

World wide the commonest street/house number to include a letter is 12a. Wonder why?

More kamasutra please!

Fernapple comments on Apr 20, 2021:

I am told that only two percent of the Kamasutra is about sex. It has more pages on gardening. Must read it sometime, ( Just for the gardening of course.)

Another one bites the dust.

Fernapple comments on Apr 20, 2021:

It has been a good year for Darwin Award candidates. Vintage in fact.

If the god of the bible exists (which I don't believe for a moment) it is a complete asshole.

Fernapple comments on Apr 20, 2021:

Yes I lost both my parents and my wife, and all of them slowly. Selfishly speaking it seems sometimes that all life is spent either watching people die, or grieving afterwards. And worse of course is the fact that even if that god has gone away, the legacy of regarding human life as untouchable, will still go on to deny humans the final mercy we give to animals, for years to come. The only thing that I can recommend to help your own pain, is work, it really does help to keep busy and thereby forget your pains, even though work can seem pointless, grey and dull, it still stops you overthinking.

This definitely gave me a feel good boost because I am mediocre at almost everything but I've ...

Fernapple comments on Apr 20, 2021:

Wonderful philosophy, my thought exactly. Though some people say, butterfly personality.

Two totally different things...

Fernapple comments on Apr 20, 2021:

Sadly nuance tends to be wasted on people like creationists, they want absolutes of good and evil true and false, with them in the good and everyone else in the evil false camp. And if the nuance does not help give them that, then too bad for the nuance. Your sentence contains eleven words, that is far too many to scream in one breath. "You believe in evolution. " Is only four words, which is much easier to scream if you don't want anyone else to be heard.

Ockham’s razor, Russell’s teapot, and the lottery paradox.

Fernapple comments on Apr 20, 2021:

Actually they are not only misusing Russell's teapot. Which supports agnostic philosophy. But also Ockham's Razor, which was an ancient rule for use in formal debating, and never said anything like its common modern misuser's think it did.

(Forewarning: This idea would only be good IF no one cared about the patterns of darkness and light.

Fernapple comments on Apr 20, 2021:

Yes but the problem is more basic than that. The real problem is that there are not an exact number of days, the time it takes the earth to rotate, in a year. So that if you make the seconds line up with the days, they will not line up with the year, and if you do make the seconds line up with the year, then there will not be an exact number of seconds in a day. And then there is the noise and the slowing of the earth. It is not a solvable problem. PS. there is a small error at the beginning, the hours are not "the earth spinning while the sun shines on it," that is the days, of which the hours are sub-divisions. For another improvement which works very well. Why not have thirteen months of twenty eight days. That makes three hundred and sixty four days, and you then add one extra day, called new years day or leap day, at the beginning of the year, every year, except leap years when you have two, to adjust the years and days as needed. New years day/days are a holiday and are not counted as weekdays. (They are just called new years day.) Then every year and every month would begin on the same day of the week, and nobody would ever need to buy more than one calendar in a lifetime.

I'm still fairly new Atheist and still figuring out my way as one.

Fernapple comments on Apr 20, 2021:

Encourage them to learn some history, and how it works, for example recommend a secular history of the biblical lands. Does not have to be a book if they don't read, a Youtube documentary is a good start. There is nothing destroys religion like knowledge.

Suspected poacher trampled to death by elephants.

Fernapple comments on Apr 20, 2021:

Sadly though, the actual poachers are often poor and desperate creatures themselves, who are bullied into it, often because they owe debts to the gangs, armed cheaply by the poaching gangs, and are only paid a pittance for the ivory. The gang members and organized criminals who control the trade, never get involved in the actual hunting themselves.

Can i get an amen to that

Fernapple comments on Apr 20, 2021:

Where did you find that one ? Even the J.W.'s are not that bad.

I know everyone on this site has probably seen this, but it is always funny. [m.youtube.com]

Fernapple comments on Apr 20, 2021:

The Buy -Babble contains a good joke of its own, if you look. Because according to it, on the mount he was given the stone tablets magical inscribed by the lord with the laws. Accompanied only by his bother in law, Aaron. Who the Buy-Babble tells us was a STONE MASON. Just saying.

We are witnessing unbelievable process in Georgia right now.

Fernapple comments on Apr 20, 2021:

The worlds churches will probably not die, if you have a useful name and some cultural value someone will always take it on. In all probability the worlds churches will reinvent themselves again, as they often have, probably this time as organized crime.

Hail satan lol!

Fernapple comments on Apr 19, 2021:

He also tortured Job in just about every way they could think of, just to amuse Satan. You have got to know that when it come to the crunch, its one law for supernaturals, and another one entirely for poor humans.

Only a 10-min.

Fernapple comments on Apr 18, 2021:

I know what you mean. Though I am more of a woodland than coastal person, for my green fix..

I got my second covid shot today.

Fernapple comments on Apr 18, 2021:

Cheer up, it only lasts a day or two, then you can get back to being abnormal again.

Bill nails it again...78% of COVID mortalities were those suffering from obesity. [youtube.com]

Fernapple comments on Apr 18, 2021:

Sorry, link does not go there.

Don't think they wore masks, but the beards may have helped...

Fernapple comments on Apr 18, 2021:

Did they not see the episode of the Flintstones, where Fred got them all to hide down the mine ?

Photos of the week: [washingtonpost.com]

Fernapple comments on Apr 17, 2021:

Paywall, sorry.

Share your top Secrets for success in life Tall order, here goes mine.

Fernapple comments on Apr 17, 2021:

If I shared it, it would not be a secret any longer.

I'm an expert when it comes to other people's lives.

Fernapple comments on Apr 17, 2021:

Think about, "Te Deum" and the English word "tedium", which came out at about the time of the Reformation.

“There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats”.

Fernapple comments on Apr 17, 2021:

Beer, laughter, hugs, sunshine, green growing things, books, giving unasked, honest trade (happy customers), hot showers, old dogs, wind waving grass, young creatures of all species, etc. etc.

The Epicurus Dilemma.

Fernapple comments on Apr 16, 2021:

I think that the last one is the weak one, since we do not know what the qualifications for godhood are, who is to say that willingness and ability are needed. But it works fairly well.

You cannot stop faith - pandemic or not.

Fernapple comments on Apr 16, 2021:

And India's right wing government coming up to an election, does not want to upset the religious right, by placing restrictions, of any sort, on them. So a lot more people are going to die of religion, and a secondary political infection, with viral complications of course.

People Are Revealing Why They'll Never Go To Church Again, And I'm Curious About Who Feels The Same...

Fernapple comments on Apr 16, 2021:

How about. All of the above.

Someone mentioned how beautiful this garden was and I looked it up.

Fernapple comments on Apr 15, 2021:

If you like that, you may also like this English garden, its in a different style, and much older, but was originally the creation of a mother and son. https://perennial.org.uk/garden/york-gate-garden/

Can evil be good, or good be evil?

Fernapple comments on Apr 15, 2021:

Good and evil are absolutes. And like the vast majority of absolutes, they do not exist, ( Or at least not absolutely. This being a nuance.) when people talk about an absolute, they are saying. "I do not accept nuance or qualification in this mater." But accepting nuance and qualification are the roots of wisdom, since it is only when we let them in, that we can begin to learn, move forward, or see the other view.

In education, in marriage, in religion, in everything, disappointment is the lot of women.

Fernapple comments on Apr 15, 2021:

Tough love, I suppose.

I'm not sure I want my butt to light up...

Fernapple comments on Apr 15, 2021:

Sounds painful.

The neighbor lady upstairs made me some cabbage, pork rolls.

Fernapple comments on Apr 15, 2021:

I should ask her if you can start with a cheese sandwich first. Best not get in too deep too quick. LOL

Loved this picture!

Fernapple comments on Apr 14, 2021:

Bed in breakfast.

Talk about Good Old Aussie Shits and Giggles, I wish my Scanner/Printer wasn't Cactus Stuffedus ...

Fernapple comments on Apr 14, 2021:

You can photograph a paper with a regular camera or mobile if you need to.

“As study after study has taught us, there is no tool for development more effective than the ...

Fernapple comments on Apr 14, 2021:

Sadly there are many who are opposed not only to the, empowerment of women, but to development as well. Oppression works with perfect logic from their standpoint.

America's nothing more than the petri dish on which this world grows its imbeciles.

Fernapple comments on Apr 14, 2021:

No your I am sorry to say that I think they are entirely home grown, please don't try to blame the rest of the world.

Something to ponder.

Fernapple comments on Apr 14, 2021:

Well, it requires a lot of qualifications and nuances to be added, but not a bad starting point. Certainly for the life of an individual, living in moderately stable nation states, it makes every sense as a source of happiness. But Aristotle of course, for example, could never have foreseen that humans might one day, have the power to destroy the living world with our waste, or weapons of mass destruction for use on other people. So that one day, we would have in our hands, the power to do things so horrible, that no opposition to the doing of them could be termed immoderate.

Trump says COVID-19 vaccine should be called Trumpcine [independent.co.uk]

Fernapple comments on Apr 13, 2021:

Is this still April the first. Or has he gone way beyond, "lost it completely" ?

One secular vision of how things work

Fernapple comments on Apr 13, 2021:

I can go along with that. Though I am enough of a natural sceptic and agnostic to say that I would not be certain of any of it, and If someone produced a disproof of any part of it, it would not disturb me much.

So! today April 13th.

Fernapple comments on Apr 13, 2021:

Don't feel too bad, there are not many in Christian lands, who give much up for Lent either.

Why do people still say "Rest in Peace"?

Fernapple comments on Apr 13, 2021:

Because they don't want you to come back and annoy them again.

Something to keep cosmology fans out of mischief for a while.

Fernapple comments on Apr 13, 2021:

No, not quite. I think that most of what the author says about the failings of modern culture, the arts and the rise of relativism is very true, and the article is well worth reading for that alone. But I think that it is a little narrow and limited a view, to pin it all on Albert and cosmology. From the same period, what about Freud for example. Long the poster boy of pseudo science, and accepted as such even by mainstream thinking. Since he really did give the best demonstration of, faking it by plagiarizing, inventing empty jargon to create self revering text to cover the absence of any real content, and ignoring conflicting evidence, (Especially from other fields, such as real Biology.) The Freudian pseudoscience movement, especially in all the "soft" social sciences and humanities, really did spread its dismal shadow deeply across all the worlds educational institutions. And since those pseudo-sciences are much more immediately connected to mainstream culture, than cosmology, I think that their effects are greater.

I've been watching movies about EVEREST.

Fernapple comments on Apr 13, 2021:

I am uneasy about a lot of the stunts that Westerners from highly developed countries, go to the (third) underdeveloped world to indulge in. Because they are basically flaunting the fact that they come from cultures wealthy enough to afford health and life insurance, good hospitals and often high quality state health care, plus reasonable levels of social security. So that they do not have to worry about the effects, especially financial, that injury or death may have on them or their families. This is surely insultingly insensitive towards people, for whom, even a couple of days off with a broken leg, could mean great hardship and even real hunger for their families. While the certainly help to provide money and jobs in the tourist industries, you have to wonder if even more help could not be provided, by responsible tourism, devoted to revering the cultures and natural history of the lands visited.

New Christ statue in Brazil's Encantado to be taller than Rio's [bbc.com]

Fernapple comments on Apr 12, 2021:

Well, ours is bigger than your. Yah!

Sidney Powell's claim that 'no reasonable person' would believe her comes back to bite her

Fernapple comments on Apr 12, 2021:

So maybe these political spin doctors do have to face the consequences of their actions sometimes. We will wait and see.

This is inspirational. [amp.theguardian.com]

Fernapple comments on Apr 12, 2021:

Sad. Why do these sporting authorities always seem to sell out so cheaply for a few bits of Saudi silver ?

"Losing My Religion" or "What in the Mental Health is Going On? - YouTube

Fernapple comments on Apr 12, 2021:

Sorry. Video does not work.

I'm certain this is not the first time a human has noticed this, especially during the era before TV...

Fernapple comments on Apr 12, 2021:

Would not work in the U K since we write the dates differently, day, month, year, from the small unit to the largest. It always seemed strange that America jumps around.

Have you ever noticed how Spring even makes a rainy day look good?

Fernapple comments on Apr 12, 2021:

I envy you. Here in the UK we are starting to suffer a drought, and yet have had more frosts this last week than all winter, a truly horrible spring, bring on summer.

Last last night I got a piece of sausage stuck in my airway.

Fernapple comments on Apr 12, 2021:

I am sure it was unpleasant, but you have to be thankful, people have died of that, and think of the sniggers at your funeral.

Lyrics: I never really understood religion Except it seems a good excuse to kill I never really ...

Fernapple comments on Apr 12, 2021:

How about. I can't relate to any power, That sets the ego to devour

Oh for when we can travel again, you don't have to go far, other peoples gardens are good enough, ...

Fernapple comments on Apr 11, 2021:

Sorry all, I will try again another day, and try to find some videos that are available in the US.

So I just watched the commercial where they're trying to convert people and you had to say a prayer ...

Fernapple comments on Apr 11, 2021:

It is the logic of the Nazis. If you wish to use, exploit, and abuse people. Then you must first find a way to convince everybody that some people are less than perfect and subhuman, and therefore deserving of abuse, and not of defense. The Nazis directed that idea at Jews, Romany, Blacks and the disabled etc. But they were late comers to the show, and missed the trick played by the Churches, who managed to direct that logic at the whole human race. Remember the motto above the gate where slaves went in was. "Work makes you free." And slaving for the churches, makes you free from guilt and the threats of hell.

Pleased to report no side effects from my second Pfizer Covid vaccine dose.

Fernapple comments on Apr 11, 2021:

In the UK you would be though of as impolite if you did not wear one anyway.

If you go far enough into religion, you will find science.

Fernapple comments on Apr 11, 2021:

Relativist bullshit. If that was true, then why was science ever invented in the first place ?

And in a vacuum, so I can't hear you.

Fernapple comments on Apr 11, 2021:

Wonderful.

Did you witness this historic event?

Fernapple comments on Apr 10, 2021:

Yes I can just remember it. Yuri was a global hero, in a way which transcended politics. So sad that he died so young.

Georgia v. Democracy | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) [youtube.com]

Fernapple comments on Apr 10, 2021:

It would perhaps be more interesting if there was some explanation as to what Georgia are doing. Not everyone on this site is familiar with the fine details of US politics.

No great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness. --Aiistotle

Fernapple comments on Apr 9, 2021:

And very few were without an 'R' in their name. LOL

Beware the beauty of the Blue Viper.

Fernapple comments on Apr 9, 2021:

Certainly is colourful, like many toxic things of course.

Afterlife

Fernapple comments on Apr 9, 2021:

A lot happens when you die, it is just you are not a part of it anymore. But you can comfort yourself with the thought that some animals will get a good meal, and you will not have to take the lives of any more animals and plants to keep your living going.

Pretty much. 😅

Fernapple comments on Apr 9, 2021:

There are worse things to be. And I always thought car rides were fun.

“We realise the importance of our voices only when we are silenced”..........Malala Yousafzai.

Fernapple comments on Apr 9, 2021:

Sad, but maybe true.

Hi everyone! It's been a long time since I became active here. How are you my fellows?🖤🧠

Fernapple comments on Apr 9, 2021:

Hello, we are much the same thank you, but even older. Welcome back, hope you are well.

Believers must be getting more desperate.

Fernapple comments on Apr 9, 2021:

Start talking like a perv., is best yes, they hang up quickly. LOL

I have an EpiPen.

Fernapple comments on Apr 8, 2021:

If it took away some of his pain, maybe he was giving you something that had been very important to him.

Questions to religious people

Fernapple comments on Apr 8, 2021:

Depends on the religion.

atheist something to think about

Fernapple comments on Apr 7, 2021:

Flattery will get you anything.

Anyone up to giving adam and eve some colors?

Fernapple comments on Apr 7, 2021:

Yes but what is he doing to that squirrel ? Perfect.

I wanna be as happy as that lioness. :D

Fernapple comments on Apr 7, 2021:

I am told that they do it for twenty four hours.

SciShow We Had Catnip All Wrong [youtube.com]

Fernapple comments on Apr 7, 2021:

You should paste this into the cat lovers group as well.

Anyone around to chat?( Preferably near my age)

Fernapple comments on Apr 6, 2021:

Hello and welcome enjoy the site. Don't worry about the time we are a global site, someone somewhere will be awake.

Worthy of sharing even as just Facebook musings.

Fernapple comments on Apr 6, 2021:

How about thoughtful.

My born again Christian younger brother made me promise I'd watch a film called Atheist Delusion by ...

Fernapple comments on Apr 5, 2021:

Link would be helpful. But having seen R.C. before I don't think I will bother.

Deep thoughts...

Fernapple comments on Apr 4, 2021:

Worse, do they just forget to take the condoms off after use, and walk about all day still wearing them . LOL