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A conspiracy is simply 2 or more people telling a lie.
Fernapple comments on Feb 7, 2021:
Quite true. Though that does not mean that I would subscribe to any particular theory. PS. Your text could do with a little more work, to make it read more easily, and your meaning more clear.
Would you say that some agnostics know of seemingly endless examples where assertions about the ...
Fernapple comments on Feb 7, 2021:
Seems a strange question. If we lived our lives in an underground bunker we may not have seen any. And if we ever saw a good one, we would not be agnostics.
Random stuff: A comment by Cat M my 65th birthday begging video on Youtube: "Ok, no.
Fernapple comments on Feb 7, 2021:
Never do what a troll tells you to do. They are nasty Scandinavian dwarf giants, who live under bridges and push people into the rivers. They only want you to cut your hair, so that people have nothing to grab hold of and pull you out.
We've always had divisions in political philosophy in America.
Fernapple comments on Feb 6, 2021:
Nothing to do with the post, but I like your new picture.
Hi, ladies and gentlemen (or whatever you identify as)! A long period passed since my last post.
Fernapple comments on Feb 6, 2021:
Welcome back. Keep safe for now, and enjoy your life.
I’ve become a fan of YouTube (only for viewing) and I saw a crazy show.
Fernapple comments on Feb 5, 2021:
In the UK a person who wanted to talk to the Prime Minister, once mailed themselves to Number Ten Downing Street.
They Stormed the Capitol. Their Apps Tracked Them.
Fernapple comments on Feb 5, 2021:
And some of these people are worried that there could be digital chips in the covid vaccine. But they are dumb enough to take their smart phones to a riot !!!
Nature, Alaska, Eagle bigger than a man, and other shit
Fernapple comments on Feb 5, 2021:
Very Good . I love the wise man joke. And number one, Eupatorium canabinum, growing wild. I grow it in the garden, and the name means canabis like, a number of visitors make that mistake, but sadly no body has reported me to the police yet. Could be fun.
Horton Creek, Arizona
Fernapple comments on Feb 5, 2021:
Perfect quite little valley. Like the way you got low to bring more foreground into the shot.
New atheist. any advice?
Fernapple comments on Feb 4, 2021:
Hello and welcome. Remember that you are under no obligation to anyone, to tell them your inner thoughts, and since religion is meaningless, there is no harm in going though the motions. Therefore if there is any danger to yourself or your social status, from coming out, there is no great cost in remaining closeted. If however you feel that you are supporting religion by remaining in it, and feel you have to come out, then take your time. Find and establish a secular support network first, this site is a good start. But if you do come out, what you will find is that there are a lot more secularists out there than you can imagine.
Today's snowshoe to an alpine lake after yesterday's wild storm.
Fernapple comments on Feb 4, 2021:
Great photos.
beautiful places Zion, Switzerland, sunset, Norway, MT fugi, Norway, Indonesia, Greenland, devil's ...
Fernapple comments on Feb 3, 2021:
I like the last one especially, because it could be anywhere.
Do our omnipresent commercials, full of grinning, prosperous, self-satisfied people, fully invested ...
Fernapple comments on Feb 2, 2021:
If they are making us happier, then they have failed. Because the whole idea is to make you unhappy so that you will buy the product, because that offers to cure your unhappiness. The whole industry is about promoting unhappiness.
- Many-Jeweled Stupa Reliquary (Tahoto shari yoki) early to mid-1300s - Japan, Kamakura period ...
Fernapple comments on Feb 2, 2021:
Wonderful little series on lamps and miniature buildings. Thanks.
Some of the pressure is off for me. My wife and I got our second COVID 19 shot today.
Fernapple comments on Feb 2, 2021:
Lucky you. For the sake of everyone else you still have to keep up the measures, but in ten days a lot of the worry is lifted.
For anyone who still doubts this is a pandemic: More people died of covid in the state of California...
Fernapple comments on Feb 2, 2021:
You should also, not forget that that is, after, taking measures to reduce transmission. In the UK it is said that, we average about eight thousand deaths each year from winter flu, without taking serious precautions. We are now at a hundred plus thousand, covids deaths, times twelve, and that is despite measures.
At 3:30 am, the coyotes are owling somewhere in the fields.
Fernapple comments on Feb 1, 2021:
Keep the cats in to protect the wintering birds as well.
interesting shit
Fernapple comments on Feb 1, 2021:
Interesting facts.
"Be happy for no reason, like a child.
Fernapple comments on Feb 1, 2021:
And do good unto others, because ? Well why not.
I am at level two! Wondering if I have joined atheist or Scientology?👣.
Fernapple comments on Jan 31, 2021:
Hello and welcome. We are a very board group here.
Couple of these made me laugh out loud
Fernapple comments on Jan 31, 2021:
Last one. But there is no 'i' in team. And. Assume, makes an ass of both you and me.
Why is it that you can be drafted into "serving your country" for the military but you can't be ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 31, 2021:
Government by jury. It has been suggested before.
@Admin. I'm trying to edit your to you're but it's not letting me. All I get is -
Fernapple comments on Jan 31, 2021:
Arn't U av'in 'orrid prob's. LOL
A political party, NOT a religion. [orthodoxtimes.com]
Fernapple comments on Jan 31, 2021:
And the orthodox Church is not political, and had no role in the partition of Cyprus for example. Let the dogs bite each others rumps.
“I’m an atheist, and that’s it.
Fernapple comments on Jan 31, 2021:
Best one yet.
Time to talk about the birds and the bees and the flowers.
Fernapple comments on Jan 30, 2021:
Bees, the first creatures to set up in the A. I. business.
The self-professed most powerful country in the world had it's government taken over by a bunch of ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 30, 2021:
While I know that this is humour. And I don't support the insurgents. That is overstating it more than a bit. The government was not taken over, all that happened was that a half empty building was held by disorganized rioters for an hour or two. All the deaths were rioters and security, no elected government members were hurt or captured, and government business was not even seriously delayed. It was a childish delusional game of coup, which was never likely to get anywhere serious, American democracy is a lot stronger than that, so far anyway.
I Have A Question For All The Mind Readers and Believers.
Fernapple comments on Jan 30, 2021:
I don't think you will get many answers here. But having said that. Yes certainly, and you will spot it easily because all the others are painted blue.
Just wanted to put out a heads up.
Fernapple comments on Jan 29, 2021:
Ah, a robot in love with a cartoon.
Can a combination of logic and probability obviate agnostic doubt?
Fernapple comments on Jan 29, 2021:
Why would anyone wish to obviate doubt. Doubt is generally a good thing, and the gateway to nuance, which is in turn, the opening to wisdom.
GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Secret Jewish Space Laser [sfchronicle.com] [.msn.com]
Fernapple comments on Jan 29, 2021:
Sorry. Link does not work.
Nature's Beauty So glad the clouds drifted off, gave me a beautiful sunset and a gorgeous Wolf ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 29, 2021:
Warm balmy nights by the harbour. I remember those days, you are lucky to live where you do.
Christians, Jews, and other 'believers' need to purge the hypocrisy out of their systems to make ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 28, 2021:
Without the hypocrisy they have nothing, You can get those views from mainstream culture today. A Christianity which stood for those things would have nothing different to offer. But if they stand for nothing and allow the maximum of cherry picking and interpretation, then they can stand for anything. And then, along come the fascists, who know they have a bad name. Hard to sell fascism today. "But look there is Christianity, its still got a good name, and it stands for anything you want, why don't we use it."
Better than facts ?
Fernapple comments on Jan 28, 2021:
Humanize it to give it appeal, that is not really news, but a good article none the less.
Just finished my latest Painting commission.
Fernapple comments on Jan 28, 2021:
Should brighten anyones life.
Checking in after being away for the last two weeks due to family things.
Fernapple comments on Jan 27, 2021:
Welcome back. Whatever you do is fine by me, very thick skinned.
I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on global warming.
Fernapple comments on Jan 27, 2021:
Hard to say. The UK and Europe now get more than half from renewables, which is getting somewhere, but it may be different in the US and the developing world, and is it enough ?
Bioluminescent mushrooms A couple years ago, these Omphalotus sp.
Fernapple comments on Jan 27, 2021:
Wonderful shots, that took some time and work. It is part of the wonder of the human eye, that it adjusts to things that even modern digital cameras have difficulty with. I love taking mushroom shots, they are so sculptural.
photograph by skado
Fernapple comments on Jan 27, 2021:
Great image.
“What good is the warmth of summer, without the cold of winter to give it ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 27, 2021:
Saves me about thirty hours per year, putting on extra winter clothing and taking it off again, that's two working days a least. But then again, here is a little poem. "Like what I wrote." Search Only the stubbornest will, The greatest love can give. The very darkest night, The starlight sharply bright. Give all your lazy summers, The making of the hay. For the pure and cut-glass light, Of one bright, winters day.
Do Christian teachings align with human nature?
Fernapple comments on Jan 26, 2021:
If you mean did they emerge from human nature, then yes. If you mean are they at odds with human nature, then yes. If you mean is it a good thing that they are at odds with human nature, then no.
[agnostic.
Fernapple comments on Jan 26, 2021:
Typical woolly Christian thinking. Do they not understand, it does not matter how you got there, it is only ending in the right place that counts.
Life is a set of random occurrences we try to make sense of. Agree?
Fernapple comments on Jan 26, 2021:
Agree.
[agnostic.
Fernapple comments on Jan 26, 2021:
I have got a feeling that his survey, is so obviously a load of c##p, that he has not had many if any takers anyway. Let him stay, he may just learn not to take theist propaganda a face value, you never know.
My mother says I'm going to hell.
Fernapple comments on Jan 26, 2021:
Well tell her its her fault for giving birth to an atheist. And God curses to the seventh generation, but does not say in which direction.
Was watching the news and had some on covid testing in China.
Fernapple comments on Jan 26, 2021:
In the UK we are expected to have both at the same time, with the same swab. But fortunately they do, do the mouth first.
I think most of do
Fernapple comments on Jan 26, 2021:
That's one thing you Americans have solved. Now if I can only get someone to come over here and fix my central heating, nobody in this country seems to be able to manage it.
“Man’s inhumanity to man, makes countless thousands mourn!”.
Fernapple comments on Jan 25, 2021:
It is a freezing cold day in Jan here, miserable, so something summery. Flow gently, sweet Afton! amang thy green braes, Flow gently, I'll sing thee a song in thy praise; My Mary's asleep by thy murmuring stream, Flow gently, sweet Afton, disturb not her dream. Thou stockdove whose echo resounds thro' the glen, Ye wild whistling blackbirds in yon thorny den, Thou green-crested lapwing thy screaming forbear, I charge you, disturb not my slumbering Fair.
A history quiz, just for fun, enjoy! [united-cats.com]
Fernapple comments on Jan 25, 2021:
Interesting, enjoyed the read.
FFS "There is no evidence of a pandemic" says anti vaxxer
Fernapple comments on Jan 24, 2021:
I am sure there are a few of those. But without a citation of your source, or a link, what are we to make of it ?
Happy birthday to my favorite wall builder, Emperor Hadrian, born on this day in the year 76.
Fernapple comments on Jan 24, 2021:
There is a. This day in history group."
I had done some home brew years ago and thought I'd look thru some information to refresh my memory ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 24, 2021:
We all need our daily dose of poop. Personally I would rather get mine drinking yeast in water, than watching politicians on the news feed any day.
Rare 5,000-year-old crystal dagger is uncovered in Prehistoric Iberian megalithic tomb in Spain | ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 24, 2021:
It says. "The weapon’s final resting place is far from crystal mines, which suggests they once belonged to an elite individual who paid a hefty price to have the materials sourced and shaped." Who would not pay a hefty price for that ?
“Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire”.
Fernapple comments on Jan 23, 2021:
But so often the matches are damp.
When folks don’t understand why it’s a big deal that Harris is the Vice President(no matter your...
Fernapple comments on Jan 23, 2021:
Are the pictures in the right order, I can't work it out ?
Malham Cove, in Yorkshire.
Fernapple comments on Jan 23, 2021:
I love Malham. The limestone pavement is not one of the biggest but it is certainly well placed, and does still have some botany despite the high visitor numbers.
Gainsay the peremptory pejorative prerogative of thesauri to misconstrue agnosticism.
Fernapple comments on Jan 22, 2021:
Sceptic. Pitfall traps for donkeys. There is a lot.
“A hangover is the wrath of grapes”............Dorothy Parker.
Fernapple comments on Jan 22, 2021:
You can lead a whore to culture, but you can not make her think. D. P. ( May have met the odd first lady. )
Need friends
Fernapple comments on Jan 22, 2021:
Hello and welcome. This is a friendly group, just get involved.
Ark Encounter Ticket Sales Continued to Plummet in December Due to COVID-19 | Hemant Mehta | ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 21, 2021:
They would not get anybody, if stupid agnostics/atheists did not go along to laugh.
hate stupid.
Fernapple comments on Jan 21, 2021:
You dig a whole hole, then put half of it back.
Yup so true
Fernapple comments on Jan 21, 2021:
Yes, but when you reach bottom, the only direction is up.
What have been your accomplishments over the last year?
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
Kept breathing. Not that common this year.
A Wonderful Inauguration Day
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
"Well it took a few tries, but you finally got in now." As the tart said to the virgin.
West Fork, Oak Creek Canyon, Sedona, Arizona
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
Beautiful. Makes me think though just how much I am missing travel right now.
Natural Bridge - Zhangjiajie National Park China
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
Beautiful, reminds me of why a visit to China is on my bucket list.
He's gone would not mention Biden name classless to the end Goodbye twatwaffle
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
Well at least he was consistent.
Today's the day!!!! Communism takes hold!! Our guns get seized!! Pronouns mean nothing!! ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
Careful. Those almost sound like opinions coming from a relativist. LOL
I asked a friend who has crossed 70 & is heading towards 80 what sort of changes he is feeling in ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
Great painting too.
I asked a friend who has crossed 70 & is heading towards 80 what sort of changes he is feeling in ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
Great post. I will print that out and share it with my friends.
Is agnosticism an example of epistemic skepticism which wonders whether any knowledge is possible?
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
Yes. It is for me at least. Especially since I can see no value in true, that is to say absolute, knowledge anyway.
Is science able to deliver true knowledge?
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
Not if you go to scientific philosophy, which basically says, that nothing is regarded as true, but it maybe regarded as supported by evidence, until contrary evidence is found, and that all that may be assumed is, that that which is supported by the most evidence, is regarded as our best current model. It has changed a little in recent times, and the old stronger. ' Nothing is regarded as proven, but may be regarded as disproved if contrary evidence is found.' Is now a little out of fashion, because it is thought too idealistic to be workable. Though it is still treated with respect. Science deals in knowledge, ( of evidence ) but never proof or truth, that is one of the great popular misunderstandings. Given how scientific knowledge is defined, I often wonder if it is not identical with agnosticism, in all but name. Having said all of which of course, the old adage that. The philosophy of science, is virtually the last thing that any working scientist ever has on their mind. Is probably very true. A religious philosopher once said. "What is the use of science, if it never gets you to a final truth, but only nearer to it with time. And undermines its own truth by finding ever finer levels of measurement, to find ever more ( albeit smaller ) errors." Well yes, but to rephrase and shape the old looking for a cat in a dark room metaphor. Science is about going into the dark room, with a flashlight, then checking each box in the room, and saying. "No its not in this one." "Philosophy is pure reason and therefore saying. "The cat must be in the room, and probably in a box because it can not be seen." And religion is standing outside the room, not going in and looking, but declaring. " I know exactly which box the cat is in, because my invisible friend told me, and in any case I have a large stick, do you want a fight." If science ever did deliver true knowledge, then it would not be science any longer.
“One’s dignity may be assaulted, vandalised and cruelly mocked, but it can never be taken away ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
Poor Mike he probably had to surrender a lot of his towards the end.
So.. wasn't she 12 in the story?
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
Although the whole story is only told in one gospel, and that the last and most doubtful one. So it is probably just plagiarizing the stories of Osiris and Mithras etc. to make his hero seem like the equal of the pagan gods.
According to one source: "Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God, of the divine or the ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
There is a whole heap of evidence that god exists. Go into any church book store, and you will find literally tons of it, lining the shelves, whole forests of dead trees. 'BUT'. If you take a sample of the shelves, you will find that it is all, the most utter rubbish and circular self reverencing twadle you ever read. And after you have done feeling sorry about the trees. Then, if you are like me, you begin to think that if something needs the support of masses of rubbish evidence, then it almost certainly is not supported by any good evidence, because if you have good stuff why bother with the rubbish.
Most excellent day
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
Remember that falling of a tall building never hurt anyone, its the bump at the end of the fall that kills.
Karma bitch
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
They need to wait a few more hours, until Trumps lost his power to hand out pardons.
sigh I relate to many of these
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
Number nine, is the down side to number seven.
sigh I relate to many of these
Fernapple comments on Jan 20, 2021:
I always liked the sight variation on two that is popular with some. " Pop it where the sun don't shine." It is just metaphorical enough to confuse for a second or two, the sort of ass you need to say that too. And that look of confusion !!
Autism is
Fernapple comments on Jan 19, 2021:
Agree. Have not seen you for a while. Hope you are well.
Would you say that agnostics are likely to be more intelligent than theists or atheists?
Fernapple comments on Jan 19, 2021:
Define intelligence, first. That is very hard, and there is no single one size fits all answer. But if you simply mean logical problem solving skills, or good memory, then probably not. If however you mean real working intelligence, such as we use to solve real life problems, every day. Then that probably depends more upon features of character, than brain power alone, such as willingness to work hard at problems, unwillingness to accept second grade answers, being sceptical, etc. Then yes perhaps.
Are the brains of atheists different to those of religious people? Scientists are trying to find out
Fernapple comments on Jan 19, 2021:
There are I think at least three possibles. One, that yes religion is a purely acquired culturally, two that there is a positive need in some people for religion, which is genetic. But the is also the third possibility that religion is acquired, but that some people lack defenses against it, and those defenses could themselves of course be innate, acquired or a combination of both. Its a complex can of worms. Personally I tend to be with the, purely acquired culturally, group, because of the observation, that there are so many very different religions offering so many different things, and entered in so many ways, that they could not all be answering to the same hard wired needs, or exploiting the same failings. Unless those needs/ failings are of course only very simple, such as the hard wired inclination to false positives, which has been much written about, and is worth looking up if you are not familiar with it.
Asking a question as this group ostensibly has members who have advanced understanding of how this ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 19, 2021:
Yes, maybe. I find that if someone has blocked you, you can sometimes see other peoples comments on their comments.
I have a suspicion that @Thirst2learn and @imback are the same person.
Fernapple comments on Jan 19, 2021:
Don't think it is against the rules, but is that not one of the things the points system is supposed to be there to discourage ? And I know this is social media where the normal rules don't apply, but are you sure it is a good idea to air mere 'suspicion' in public.
Edited to be less rude, because I can be a rude prick and I want to work on that.
Fernapple comments on Jan 18, 2021:
I wonder who would want to read such things. I type fast and loose then often have to go back, even when I notice things after people have liked/commented. A record such as. "Today Fernapple corrected five spelling mistakes, added three commas and seven full stops, deleted two commas and changed a 'could' for a 'maybe' ." Is about the least interesting read you could find. Other than my posts of course. ( Thought of this last line, and edited it in afterwards. )
Most religionists would claim morality was invented by religion.
Fernapple comments on Jan 17, 2021:
That's the great thing about things that don't exist, ( the supernatural ) you can make any claims about them you like. Heck, you can even say that your imaginary friend is all powerful, all knowing and all good, not that anybody would ever fall for a wild story like that. LOL
I am not impressed
Fernapple comments on Jan 17, 2021:
Yep. Sorry, that is how we like it.
SHACKLED BY RELIGION- 12 YEARS A .
Fernapple comments on Jan 17, 2021:
Hello and welcome enjoy the site, you should find like minded people here.
A present to myself.
Fernapple comments on Jan 17, 2021:
Very stylish and individual. ( Though some would say its a "No Dad." )
This sent to be by a friend, who more typically is wrapped up in conspiracy theories:
Fernapple comments on Jan 17, 2021:
No, I think that the few are often as lost in the fake fictional history, as the many. You do not need to conceal true history, that is probably impossible anyway. True history just gets lost, due to indifference, laziness, collective denial, and incompetence. No need to make a big conspiracy and effort, it will just go anyway.
Religion is a business.
Fernapple comments on Jan 17, 2021:
Hence in part the US evangelical opposition to many forms of state welfare. The churches know that they are in direct competition with the nation state, in pretending to provide welfare, and the more distressed people there are seeking help from the churches the better their recruitment. ( They can even try to increase the amount of distress in the community, by enforcing, or persuading the state to enforce things like, restrictions on sexual freedoms, the more unhappy people are the more they need the churches community. )
Sadly with the agricultural changes many people have moved off the land and there are an abundance ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 17, 2021:
Lovely images. I can just remember when there were empty houses in the UK country, pre the seventies property boom. Farmers used to knock them down because the farm subsidies on land were so high, but now any two bricks stuck together that can carry planning consent, are worth a fortune, so we won't see that again. Any free download, photo editor will give you a resizing feature. I use Photoscape, which is free and easy to use. About two thousand pic. long works well.
The Biggest Lies of Trump’s Presidency - YouTube
Fernapple comments on Jan 16, 2021:
I did not know he knew that many words.
“No, that is the great fallacy: the wisdom of old men.
Fernapple comments on Jan 16, 2021:
Seems I don't grow either.
This, and many many other pictures, was taken at Bempton or thereabouts, on the North Sea Coast in ...
Fernapple comments on Jan 16, 2021:
Do those orange feet really stop us being run over by trucks ?
We are here. How have we made this world better? What can we do today?
Fernapple comments on Jan 16, 2021:
Make it even better yet.
Valley of Fires, Carrizozo, New Mexico. It is not far from the Trinity site.
Fernapple comments on Jan 16, 2021:
Perfect timing with the clouds.
I would like to suggest that ALL ideological echo chamber groups on this site be removed o removed.
Fernapple comments on Jan 16, 2021:
It is true that the front page can get a little dull sometimes. But I think that banning people from forming groups (decided by who ), in order to force them to use the front page, is a little heavy handed, and may only make some of them leave, in which case the front page, and every other page would become even duller.
To be agnostic is to not know whether or not god(s) exist.
Fernapple comments on Jan 15, 2021:
I think that you need to have information to assign probability, and since you have no information you can not realistically do so. Also to get useful information out, you also need to specify which god or gods, you can not treat them as a group because they are too diverse. For example if you ask me about the Christian biblical god, I would say zero, because it is impossible. On the other hand if a religious naturalist told me that, since they do not believe in anything supernatural, therefore nature stands in as a god for them. Then I would say that if I accept you basic premise. Yes fair enough.
Life, Philosophy, and Everything In-Between: Of Course It's In The Bible...Or Not
Fernapple comments on Jan 15, 2021:
Good points, though perhaps it would be better to direct this post at Christians.

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