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Have any atheists or anti-theists here (that I haven't blocked) ever designed a website or ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 2, 2020:

Yes I have done three websites. Since I started early in the digital era I tend to write my own htm code, which I still think is the best way, even if it is a little slow though there are lots of ways to make it quicker.

Fernapple replies on Aug 2, 2020:

@LovinLarge Good web space for a full pro website suitable for a small business , will cost you about eighty to a hundred dollars peranum. Though a site like this you could be into thousands, it depends what you want to do. If you are paying more than a hundered dollars for a basic site, you are being ripped off. You should also budget for registration of a domain name which will cost you about 15 to 20 dollars per year, with a small extra in the first year. Web design by a pro designer will cost about three hundred to a thousand dollars per page, or more. But that is where you can make big savings, because you can build a good webpage and upload it in about ten mins, to a quarter hour. Yes it is a rip off, these people really are charging five hundred to four thousand dollars for an hours work. Your best bet therefore is either to learn to do it yourself, or find a friendly geek who will do it for fun.

Have any atheists or anti-theists here (that I haven't blocked) ever designed a website or ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 2, 2020:

Yes I have done three websites. Since I started early in the digital era I tend to write my own htm code, which I still think is the best way, even if it is a little slow though there are lots of ways to make it quicker.

Fernapple replies on Aug 2, 2020:

@LovinLarge A website like this one would be a very complex undertaking yes, that I think maybe one reason why we use the ready made Facebook system here. My own web design skills certainly don't extend that far, I have only done four basic commercial web-sites and one for a club. However if you are thinking of doing one, I would say get going, because it really is very easy. You can of course get ready made and preformated sites where you just load up your pictures and text, and everything else is done for you, but they are a bit limiting, and writing code is so easy, (I think I could teach the basics in 15 mins, ) and gives you a lot more control. (And its fun.) Another easy way to start is to simply look at a website you like, open it as htm code in a text editor , replace their text and pictures with yours , tweek it to taste, and then simply copy and paste, there are no real copy rights on code when once you have edited it, so there is no problem. One of the things that you have to remember is that web design is not actually all that important, on the web, content is much more important, because all the search engines are built by people like Google and Yell using very high skills at great cost, and they do that inorder to see through design and find content. That is especially so when you are looking at highly specific content, if you are doing a site for say the Boston Bowling Supply Company, Google will send people almost directly to it, as soon as they type a search in, because there will be nothing else with similar wording and content. On the other hand do a site called Sexy #+#!## and you will not likely get many hits, because you are competing with millions. The web really does love speciallity. Good content and knowing your audience are much more important than clever design, which is how the web was made to work and still does to a large extent. Don't be bothered when you get get emails saying, we can design you a website that will get you twenty times the traffic, or up your ranking with google etc., these are just lies. Bulls##t Web Design and Co, of Little Town, really do not have the skills to subvert the search engines, and you do not get anywhere much by trying. There are several good sites like Web Monkey which give tutorials and crib sheets for htm code, and you can get lots of books like 'HTLM for Dummies' from most public libaries, though they will probably tell you more than you really need to know. I will send you a link in the messaging to one of my sites if you like.

We all have a book in us... they say.

Fernapple comments on Jul 31, 2020:

Big book multi volume, should fill a few shelves.

Fernapple replies on Jul 31, 2020:

@Allamanda You can go too far, even with sceptisism.

I'd like to know if others in this forum agree with me on this.

creative51 comments on Jul 31, 2020:

Yes the catholic church has done horrible things AND so has every other church and religion. So now what?

Fernapple replies on Jul 31, 2020:

All organizations are capable of being used to garner wealth, therefore all organization are usable by those who want wealth alone. No one has ever managed to design an organization which could not be corrupted. But only churches make the claim to be divinely inspired and incorruptable.

I'd like to know if others in this forum agree with me on this.

KKGator comments on Jul 31, 2020:

How would you propose those actions be brought to reality? No sarcasm intended. I'm just hoping for a viable plan.

Fernapple replies on Jul 31, 2020:

There is a difference between sarcasm, and hoping for a viable plan ?

What are your feelings about cologne?

Fernapple comments on Jul 28, 2020:

Don't really like it. Though it has its uses, they tell me that if you are close enough, and down wind enough, to smell someones cologne, you are close enough to catch covid, so its a good warning sign. And why does clothes wash have to be scented. You go into the store and are offered. "Fresh ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 31, 2020:

@Lorajay Well Ok, cotton and wool then. Though I think that Nylon smells of nothing.

TL;DR - if you were going to use the Socratic method in some street epistemology to talk to a person...

Fernapple comments on Jul 30, 2020:

I would say that if you have never been involved in such talks with theists, then you have been lucky. And that a better way to spread the idea of sceptical thinking, is to set a good example of being a good human being, while being open about your lack of faith in the supernatural. However ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 31, 2020:

@prometheus Yes I agree with all of that. Though with regard to the teapot, you have to remember that when he said that, almost anything in space was effectively invisible, and things like orbiting telescopes were not even deamed of in science fiction.

Vote for one of these? I've been bored. Six pieces in a week.

Fernapple comments on Apr 9, 2020:

Top comes of to make a small pot.

Fernapple replies on Jul 30, 2020:

@PondartIncbendog Birch, but with fungal markings.

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Fernapple comments on Jul 30, 2020:

Video says, not available in my country, sadly.

Fernapple replies on Jul 30, 2020:

@Lorajay Thanks.

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Fernapple comments on Jul 29, 2020:

Fear of mediocrity, that it will just become a repetitive drudge, neither wholly failed nor successful, yet still a binding commitment.

Fernapple replies on Jul 29, 2020:

@Unpretentious No but people may still fear it, and it can be a pain, if your endevour is one where the benefits only go to the small percentage at the top, and those who crash out escape.

I do hope people are aware of this reality, but here's a map.

barjoe comments on Jul 29, 2020:

So I'm sure there's crime throughout the rest of Portland. Trump brought Martial Law to a few Square blocks, as you point out. Has that alleviated crime in Portland?

Fernapple replies on Jul 29, 2020:

@barjoe I see.

Common foods that could secretly contain insect fragments- [rd.

Fernapple comments on Jul 28, 2020:

Rodent hairs are also found in most foods, for the same reason. Remember the old rule, peel it or cook it, never eat salad and never eat anything that someone else has prepared. Meh, a bad attack of the runs is a better way to go than most.

Fernapple replies on Jul 29, 2020:

@Pralina1 I love you, but I love the rich wonder of this world even more, sorry.

I do hope people are aware of this reality, but here's a map.

barjoe comments on Jul 29, 2020:

So I'm sure there's crime throughout the rest of Portland. Trump brought Martial Law to a few Square blocks, as you point out. Has that alleviated crime in Portland?

Fernapple replies on Jul 29, 2020:

It does not say crime, it says protests, and the federal forces in question are not responding to crime.

Common foods that could secretly contain insect fragments- [rd.

Fernapple comments on Jul 28, 2020:

Rodent hairs are also found in most foods, for the same reason. Remember the old rule, peel it or cook it, never eat salad and never eat anything that someone else has prepared. Meh, a bad attack of the runs is a better way to go than most.

Fernapple replies on Jul 29, 2020:

@Pralina1 That's the point, they don't look like bugs, they are bugs.

Humans are predators.

FearlessFly comments on Jul 28, 2020:

. . . btw, at a Chinese 50th wedding anniversary, I had shark-fin soup -- didn't care for it. :O

Fernapple replies on Jul 29, 2020:

You may have heard this story before, but its a fairly good one. It is said that the Romans tried to impress Cleopatra with a feast. She said that she did not think much of the food. To which they replied that they had served all the most expensive dishes they knew of, and that the whole feast had cost a fortune. She then called for a glass of vinegar, took off one of her pearl earings, disolved the pearl in the vinegar and drank it. She then said, that that was the most expensive drink there, and it was horrible.

Common foods that could secretly contain insect fragments- [rd.

Fernapple comments on Jul 28, 2020:

Rodent hairs are also found in most foods, for the same reason. Remember the old rule, peel it or cook it, never eat salad and never eat anything that someone else has prepared. Meh, a bad attack of the runs is a better way to go than most.

Fernapple replies on Jul 29, 2020:

@Pralina1 If you don't like eating bugs on your food, try prawns.

Is human morality (ethics) hard wired or is it a learned behaviour? Or an a adaption of both?

Fernapple comments on Jun 10, 2020:

Since all higher social animals show some forms of morality, which is to a degree certainly hard wired, the real question is. Why would humans be the exception ? Everything has to be hard wired at the bottom of it. As Marionville below says. "Human survival from out earliest ancestor's time has ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 29, 2020:

@Atheist3 Please enlarge on why that should be important.

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Fernapple comments on Jul 28, 2020:

Of course, why would an organization which built its wealth by exploiting the weak and vulnerable, creating poverty across half the world in order to enrich itself. Then refuse a hand out from a wealthy nation as well.

Fernapple replies on Jul 28, 2020:

@powder Well yes, although by organization, I implied bigger and more multinational than any nation state.

Bloody summer in Mojacar.

Allamanda comments on Jul 27, 2020:

I'm struggling with all those same-sames, I'd planned to be in Spain to be COOLER this summer (and yes that is possible, as I live in the Tropics and Galicia hasn't gone over 90 yet this year). We are all stuck on the Covid Mobius strip...

Fernapple replies on Jul 28, 2020:

"Covid Mobius strip" I love it, round and round, and over and over, and back to where you started from with nowhere to go but round again. LOL

Allamanda on here posted about Donald Culross Peattie the other day.

Allamanda comments on Jul 27, 2020:

I'd ordered a book of Chet Raymo's from that other post - but which of Peattie's would you recommend?

Fernapple replies on Jul 28, 2020:

I would recommend, especially if you like plants, 'Flowering Earth', some of the science is way out of date now, but it is such a wonderful read. Part botany and part biographical using his own life as a metaphor for the growth of life on earth, with some wonderful passages about the North American flora, and in many editions wonderful art deco period wood engravings.

Bloody summer in Mojacar.

Fernapple comments on Jul 27, 2020:

We are all bored and unable to work, its getting to be a club with a lot of members. I don't know why people rush to the Med in summer either, I always go south in winter and early spring to escape the cold to somewhere warm. Why go somewhere roasting hot when its nice where you are and then sit ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 27, 2020:

@Lorajay And I guess you have to spend Christmas at home. I like to get away from that especially.

Do masks help stop the spread of the C19 virus?

Fernapple comments on Jul 27, 2020:

Just posted this on another line too. That's the idea, a nappy (diaper) for your face. Should have always been a legal requirement when going out in public, even before the virus, given that the mouth always contain more dangerous germs than the anus. Much safer too to kiss someones anus ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 27, 2020:

@FrayedBear Google will provide a wealth of such. But of course if you are selective in the sites you visit, to make sure you stay within your echo chamber, then, what good is it for science to put evidence out there.

This site's business model perplexes me.

AmyTheBruce comments on Jul 26, 2020:

Maybe names are being gathered for the Great Purge. 😁 Wouldn't that be a hoot?

Fernapple replies on Jul 26, 2020:

@Lorajay You are a nice lady, don't go there !!!

Ordinarily he's insane, but he has lucid moments when he is merely stupid, Heinrich Heine

Healthydoc70 comments on Jul 25, 2020:

The world appears as an unweeded garden where things rank and vile flourish-Mary Wollstonecraft

Fernapple replies on Jul 26, 2020:

@Healthydoc70 Don't worry, we are by definition realists, and for the most part stoics.

This site's business model perplexes me.

AmyTheBruce comments on Jul 26, 2020:

Maybe names are being gathered for the Great Purge. 😁 Wouldn't that be a hoot?

Fernapple replies on Jul 26, 2020:

@Sgt_Spanky Have you ever noticed that there are no 'tens'. Maybe when you get to ten that's when you get the knock on the door in the middle of the night, by a couple of hooded strangers, and you are never seen again. LOL

This site's business model perplexes me.

Apunzelle comments on Jul 26, 2020:

There is no business model. The site owners are doing this as a service to us. Isn’t that awesome?

Fernapple replies on Jul 26, 2020:

@Sgt_Spanky Yes that's a good idea.

This site's business model perplexes me.

Fernapple comments on Jul 26, 2020:

I am told that we have a couple of benefactors who pay the bills. If that is true or not I am not sure.

Fernapple replies on Jul 26, 2020:

@Sgt_Spanky I was told it by a couple of 'nines', who had been here a long time and may know more. That's all I got.

I'm getting bored here, I no longer see the mission of this site

LeighShelton comments on Jul 26, 2020:

it does seem to have got a bit dull

Fernapple replies on Jul 26, 2020:

I blame that on Trump. Why not he gets blamed for everything else, and if he has done nothing else he has certainly dominated this site for a long while.

“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man ...

Fernapple comments on Jul 26, 2020:

When you are 6 you think that your parents know everything. When you are 16 you think they are the most stupid people on the planet. 26 you think they are improving a little. 36 you see how you were a little unkind. 46 you see how wise they really were. 56 you think your judgment at sixteen, may ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 26, 2020:

@OwlInASack I met a friend in the town the other day, and she said. "When I first spotted you walking down the street, I though I had seen the ghost of your father."

“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man ...

Fernapple comments on Jul 26, 2020:

When you are 6 you think that your parents know everything. When you are 16 you think they are the most stupid people on the planet. 26 you think they are improving a little. 36 you see how you were a little unkind. 46 you see how wise they really were. 56 you think your judgment at sixteen, may ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 26, 2020:

@Marionville I am sure your mother was a lovely person.

Colour everywhere in the garden now, with a super wealth of peacock butterflies, on Buddleja and ...

Flowerwall comments on Jul 25, 2020:

This butterfly must be a product of Japanese kawaii. If you look at it in just the right way it appears as an extremely endearing, sweet charcter with the most soulful eyes. Okay maybe not a product of kawaii, but possibly an inspiration for the style? I can see how that could be.

Fernapple replies on Jul 26, 2020:

Yep, I see it.

Ordinarily he's insane, but he has lucid moments when he is merely stupid, Heinrich Heine

Healthydoc70 comments on Jul 25, 2020:

The world appears as an unweeded garden where things rank and vile flourish-Mary Wollstonecraft

Fernapple replies on Jul 26, 2020:

You are using up a lot of good quotes, which could go at the top of the page ?

I'm just gonna leave this here. : UFOs

Fernapple comments on Jul 25, 2020:

Maybe they are just redefining terms. UFO, Unidentified Flying Object, is a term which should really never have had anything to do with aliens, and should have remained just a technical term in aviation, saying just what it says on the tin. Then you don't have to do a double think if someone asks ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 26, 2020:

@PondartIncbendog Exactly.

“Closet” Agnostic/Atheist.

Fernapple comments on Jul 23, 2020:

You are under no moral obligation to share your unbelief with anyone. It need be no more than your own private mater, and there is no need to feel you are being dishonest in any way by not telling people about it. Most of the people in most of the churches, probably do not believe, but they are ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 25, 2020:

@JeffMurray It may be a trans-Atlantic thing as well. Our Christian culture here is quite different from that of the US.

I'll say good night, all you sweet people.

Fernapple comments on Jul 25, 2020:

Good Morning. I hope you slept well.

Fernapple replies on Jul 25, 2020:

@Spinliesel Yes well too. And it is a fine morning here.

Religion does three things quite effectively: divides people, controls people, deludes people.

Fernapple comments on Jul 24, 2020:

Should though perhaps be the other way round, deludes, controls and divides, do you not think ?

Fernapple replies on Jul 25, 2020:

@yvilletom Sadly true.

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Fernapple comments on Jul 17, 2020:

Nice photo, but there is something wrong with your word processor.

Fernapple replies on Jul 24, 2020:

@2bisgoodenuff Yes, and space bar seems not to work. Does not bother me, but some of the pedants on here can turn really nasty, just warning you. LOL I still have the mental scars.

“Closet” Agnostic/Atheist.

Fernapple comments on Jul 23, 2020:

You are under no moral obligation to share your unbelief with anyone. It need be no more than your own private mater, and there is no need to feel you are being dishonest in any way by not telling people about it. Most of the people in most of the churches, probably do not believe, but they are ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 24, 2020:

@JeffMurray Oh I would not say they have lied to me, I live in the UK and have little contact with Christians, it is in part just an assumption based on hearing old stats about how many priests are secretly atheists etc. Although the couple I have spoken with admitted that they did not literally believe, but were only culturally attached. Many of the so called culturally attached show the most appalling double standards however, and see no problem with supporting a system which does support literal belief, even though they are not part of that themselves. A case of not caring what it does to the minds of others, as long as I can enjoy my hour of entertainment on a Sunday.

The garden seems to be filling up with Peacock Butterflies now.

Allamanda comments on Jul 23, 2020:

They almost seem too exotic for so far north! Beautiful!

Fernapple replies on Jul 23, 2020:

Yes, after the painted lady they do seem to be our most colourful type. Though it has to be said that, having seen a number of tropical butterflies, that though they are often larger than North European types, they are often not as colourful to my mind.

“Closet” Agnostic/Atheist.

Fernapple comments on Jul 23, 2020:

You are under no moral obligation to share your unbelief with anyone. It need be no more than your own private mater, and there is no need to feel you are being dishonest in any way by not telling people about it. Most of the people in most of the churches, probably do not believe, but they are ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 23, 2020:

@JeffMurray What storm1752 and Larry-new said, although I have to admit that I have no idea what goes on inside the brains, or lack there of, of church goers. It was just a wild guess for the sake of the metaphor, but I would not be amazed to find its true.

This is a time and a place quite new to me, never even heard of it, a wonderful reminder of how rich...

tinkercreek comments on Jul 22, 2020:

Great info, and I was also prompted to look up the BCE designation. In case I'm not the only one unaware of this, it is Before Common Era and replaces the religious label of Before Christ, and has been used for centuries!

Fernapple replies on Jul 23, 2020:

@JackPedigo The common era has official status, thanks to the UN.

Snoopy on Theology, found my copy at: [craigmotor.files.wordpress.com]

Fernapple comments on Jul 22, 2020:

I may be wrong, but if so, who is right ?

Fernapple replies on Jul 23, 2020:

@girlwithsmiles Yes but which believers ? I tend to think that the china teapot followers are on to something, but then again there is something to be said for Pastafarinans but it has to be a tea pot not a collander or the juice would leak out. Then there Jedi. Too many choices is no choice at all.

“All those conclusions of ours which profess to lead us beyond the field of possible experience ...

Freedompath comments on Jul 22, 2020:

I am not sure I agree here...just have to think about it more!!!

Fernapple replies on Jul 22, 2020:

That's right, you can apply logic to the foundations supplied by experience, and if your logic is good, be reasonably confident about the results.

Have you read the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? What are your thoughts on it?

RichCC comments on Jul 22, 2020:

I especially liked the explanation for the accidental origin of humanity on the supercomputer earth -- the Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B created to eliminate all the useless telephone sanitizers and such from their population. Then of course that their society afterwards collapsed from a dirty ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 22, 2020:

Beware spoilers, he has only read the first. LOL

I'll bid you good night with a simple question:

Fernapple comments on Jul 22, 2020:

Saved about four hundred pounds sterling, this last few months.

Fernapple replies on Jul 22, 2020:

@PondartIncbendog Yes of course, just send me all your bank details including security code, and I will see what I can do. LOL

Do you think majority Christians have

LenHazell53 comments on Jul 20, 2020:

The Whole Bible in 100 words. First God makes the world and then drowns it, apart from one floating zoo. Abraham goes to Egypt and Moses gets lost coming home. Joshua invents demolition and genocide. Judges rule, Ruth gets married and Samuel creates Kings. Esther kicks ass and how God gambles ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 22, 2020:

Best short summing after. "Goat herders guide to the universe."

I did not know where to put this but it, especially the ending is so funny. [youtube.com]

Babyoda comments on Jul 21, 2020:

I loved the CPR.

Fernapple replies on Jul 22, 2020:

Yes it was the CPR and the kiss of life that made me laugh too.

Reincarnation has always been a very interesting concept to me.

Fernapple comments on Jul 21, 2020:

Many things are possible. It is possible that time goes round in a loop, and you live the same life over and over, it is possible that we don't really exist, because the universe and ourselves are just an illusion made by a program running on someones computer. Many things are possible, that is why ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 21, 2020:

@PondartIncbendog No.

Coronavirus: Is it an act of God? - The Jerusalem Post

Sticks48 comments on Jul 20, 2020:

Of course it is, along with hemorrhoids, athletes foot, dishpan hands, crabs (not the good kind), STDs, brussel sprouts, herpes, boy bands, bathtub ring, roaches (again not the good kind), dandruff, that embarrassing itch, rectal thermometers, those silly looking helmets bicyclists wear, fanny ...

Fernapple replies on Jul 21, 2020:

You forgot baldness. https://agnostic.com/discussion/517225/just-how-gullible-do-some-companies-think-people-are-my-e-mails-were-full-of-ads-this-morning-re LOL

[youtube.com] I hope you younger people listen to this.

Fernapple comments on Jul 19, 2020:

Why younger people, surely the old are just as suggestible ?

Fernapple replies on Jul 20, 2020:

@TheoryNumber3 Oh, but sadly I do think young people are exposed to a lot of that sort of thing. I guess that you could sum the post up, by using a variation on the old saying. "Don't go looking for a guru, you might just find one."

Destroying trust in the media, science, and government has left America vulnerable to disaster

barjoe comments on Jul 19, 2020:

I just can't figure out why if they distrust everything they trust Trump. I don't get it.

Fernapple replies on Jul 20, 2020:

Because Trump says he distrusts everything too.

A really good book that most of you would enjoy reading.

Fernapple comments on Jul 19, 2020:

So very true it is almost painfully so. And they often put in far more effort and talent into making their undervalued contributions, than the rich do into their overvalued ones.