Oxford scientists develop 5-minute Covid-19 antigen test [cnbc.com]

Fernapple comments on Oct 16, 2020:

Broken link, sorry.

I wish I was allowed to access the internet for nonprofessional use while at work.

Fernapple comments on Oct 16, 2020:

Basically that is all very true, except that I have a slight issue with. "the flu, as serious as it can be for at-risk populations, is relatively tamed compared to 100 years ago when it was a pandemic." Since there is no 'the flu' as such. The flu comes in at least 200 different basic strains, all of which have and can have, a different effect, and to all of which, the populations herd immunity, is different. There is therefore a real possibility of another major outbreak with widespread deadly consequences. There may be as yet unknown strains, and mutations, to which we have not yet vaccinated out there, or even for which we do not have vaccines yet. The great 1919 Swine Flu is a prime example of what could happen, since it was noted that it mainly killed young people. The reason for that being most probably, that a weaker but related strain had infected the older generations in the previous decades, perhaps several times, giving them a degree of immunity. I do not therefore think that we have 'tamed' the flu, we have just been lucky.

I cease being a wildlife lover when I chase a 'possum around my garage three nights in a row, think ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 16, 2020:

You should always love the things which challenge you. LOL

I'm just curious to see what the community thinks about this.

Fernapple comments on Oct 15, 2020:

Ignoring the 'Big Book Of Bullshit' altogether. It is a human centric vanity, to think that we could bring an end to life on earth anyway, we are not yet that powerful. Even if we all died and all the land vertebrates with us, that would not be the end of history. It would in fact perhaps take only a few million years for the surviving life, to crawl out of its holes, and spread from its deep sea vents to rebuild a complex ecosystem again. A great mass extinction perhaps, but the world has had half a dozen or more of those already.

what to write.

Fernapple comments on Oct 15, 2020:

Hello and welcome. Enjoy the site and do check out the groups, if you have time. (There is at least one which should suit you well. LOL )

As a Child and Youth Crisis Counselor I have some truly hard, heart-breaking cases in my years doing...

Fernapple comments on Oct 14, 2020:

Well done. The only trouble I can see, is that it took you, and several other people who are obviously both determined and experienced, to get 'B' the help needed. What happens to all the 'Bs' who don't get lucky enough to meet a team like you ?

If people didn’t believe that they had an imaginary father, that was much more powerful than them,...

Fernapple comments on Oct 14, 2020:

They could, more importantly, have more empathy with other peoples sufferings. If they could not dismiss them as punishment for sin, or preparation for a future life. The great trick with other people's suffering, is to find a way to explain it away. Without god we are all one family, with god we are each in our own family with our own special farther.

And visa versa lol

Fernapple comments on Oct 14, 2020:

My wife was a heavy snorer, but fortunately only for about half an hour at the beginning of the night. I used to treat it as a sort of sing me to sleep.

I have a friend that constantly says.

Fernapple comments on Oct 14, 2020:

Pagan originally meant 'villager' from 'pagani' someone who lives in the villages, and it was a snob word used with a sneer. Perhaps they mean they are peasants, living in a village. LOL

Proof of time travel.

Fernapple comments on Oct 14, 2020:

It was done with more wit and refinement in the Madonna and the yarnwinder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_of_the_Yarnwinder

why does all religion want your hard earned cash when they don't do anything to deserve it....

Fernapple comments on Oct 14, 2020:

Look at it the other way. If you want hard cash, the easiest way to get it, is to find a way where you don't have to do anything or provide anything to earn it.

Hey hows it going? I am new... in a sense.

Fernapple comments on Oct 13, 2020:

Hello and welcome. Enjoy the site, and do check out the groups if you have time, there is something for everyone.

Will be leaving the group...for a while...thanks for all the love and friendships.

Fernapple comments on Oct 13, 2020:

Don't be long, you make some good posts.

Good Morning America! As you rise, bleary eyed, on Columbus day you might like to check out these ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 12, 2020:

He offered a money prize to the first sailor to spot land. Then when one did, he claimed to have seen a dim light on the horizon the night before, and so kept the money for himself. A#####e And spent the rest of his life arguing with everyone that America did not exist, because he thought that theory, which was becoming popular undermined his claim to have found a new way to Asia.

How do you turn your day around if you’re really tired and get woken up early, finding yourself ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 12, 2020:

I just keep busy, try to drag myself through it and get to bed as soon as I can. Helps to live alone so that you can't annoy anyone and they can't annoy you.

31 Different Fallacies: I am a one-year old atheist, and I occasionally lock horns with theists ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 12, 2020:

A lot in a short time admittedly, but perhaps she would be better writing the talk down so that people could print it out.

31 Different Fallacies: I am a one-year old atheist, and I occasionally lock horns with theists ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 12, 2020:

You write very well for a one year old.

“Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource, ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 12, 2020:

Or race, or religion.

I'm having problems today.

Fernapple comments on Oct 12, 2020:

Make the hard choice now. There is no point in wasting life, it is all you get. And it is the people who make your life what it is. But you don't have to move far, it is the local people who make the biggest difference, find a community not a country. Best of luck, whatever you decide.

How will I know if my brain is in a jar on someones desk and this is a simulated reality?

Fernapple comments on Oct 12, 2020:

Does not make any difference, since you only get presented with one version of reality that is the one you have to go with. Things only make a difference, to your thinking and actions, when you are offered a choice.

“Basically, more unequal societies have worse quality of life.

Fernapple comments on Oct 12, 2020:

Yes, remember that every time someone talks about economics and mentions 'growth'. Of what use is growth, if all of it is absorbed by the few who already have more than they can actually use ?

"The belief in authority is the source of conscience; which is therefore not the voice of God in the...

Fernapple comments on Oct 12, 2020:

No rubbish. The belief that conscience is merely received is completely wrong. At even the most basic level, without even going into the mechanisms which behind conscience, it is defeated by the simple, chicken and egg, argument, if conscience is received, then where did the first to impart it get it from. You also have to remember, that F. Nietzsche's final breakdown, followed from a purely instinctive burst of pity.

Hello PEople I speak here from Brazil, and I'm quite an atheist, I started to become an atheist,...

Fernapple comments on Oct 11, 2020:

Hello and welcome. Enjoy the site and don't worry too much about English, there are a lot of different forms of it, which is part of the fun.

Has anybody here heard of the Nazca Lines or Gobekli Tepe or the countless other ancient creations ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 11, 2020:

Most of these things have been recreated by modern humans using stone/bronze age technology, and that is without even the years of experience, that the original people would have had. I love this one, it has no real academic merit, but it is great fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5pZ7uR6v8c

I was going to reply to a post just now -- just a reaction -- but couldn't because the emoji ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 11, 2020:

Bring back the puke, yes !

"Most of the tyrants, despots, and dictators are sincerely convinced that their rule is beneficial ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 11, 2020:

Not sure about that, some of them have been very cynical thieves, and often they are people who just end up riding the tiger.

Study finds that right-wing authoritarians aren’t very funny people

Fernapple comments on Oct 10, 2020:

The complete inability to see how silly you look, is the first and most important qualification for every extremist. The ability to really see how silly you look, is the main qualification for being introverted. And the ability to see how silly you look and not care, makes you a pain in everyone else's behind. (Wonder if Pain-in-the-behind would make a better user name ?)

Why are there so many christians posting on this site? Ya'll aint reportin' them enough!

Fernapple comments on Oct 10, 2020:

Not seeing any.

Helpfull observation ... [agnostic]

Fernapple comments on Oct 10, 2020:

That's a great one.

question - I started a quick thread in politics and then noticed that a level 4 had made a post and ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 10, 2020:

Yep, I see approval requests for new members comments all the time. You just click yes if it is not offensive or preaching. It may be that you will not see them if you spend time in groups not visited by new members, and/or if you live in a time zone where other members get to see their comments first. That may happen because there is a delay built in to new members content which is probably affected by the time zones/dateline.

Is it Saturday yet ?

Fernapple comments on Oct 10, 2020:

Best wishes. Just stay away from the bride's brother and party. PS fifty is not old, take it from somebody who is way older than that.

I love when I hear parents yell for their kids to stop screaming and yelling. 🙄🤦🤣

Fernapple comments on Oct 9, 2020:

Even sillier, is yelling. "Stop barking." At dogs. Yet a lot of people do it. When leading by example, it is needful to be self aware, and that is common in chimps I am told, not sure about humans.

I'm taking bets. Which will cause my demise?

Fernapple comments on Oct 9, 2020:

Come on be a bit more upbeat. You could be shot by a jealous husband after a night of wild passion. (Ok in your case that could be a bit doubtful, but you get the idea.)

I'm taking bets. Which will cause my demise?

Fernapple comments on Oct 9, 2020:

The cause of everyones demise is living. Life is a death sentence.

Hello whats up

Fernapple comments on Oct 9, 2020:

Hello and welcome, enjoy the site, and do check out the groups if you have time, there is something for everyone. In answer to your question. 'Up' is generally defined as the opposite of down. Though many people point to the fact that up, and down, are both highly subjective ideas which depend on the individuals perspective. It is therefore a subject best avoided, since there are a number of Australian members on this site, and they tend to have a different view, which could lead to them becoming upset. Upset as in annoyed, not as in turned over, which they are already, although they would probably not agree with that.

"I always have the feeling there is no myth, there can be no myth anymore.

Fernapple comments on Oct 9, 2020:

In the age of the conspiracy theory, I do not think that we are short of myths. A myth may require. "homogeneous population, a group of people within a horizon who will have had equivalent experiences for whom certain specific images will continue to have, independently, the same sense, the same meaning, the same affect value." But no myth ever fulfilled a need for the entire global population, otherwise it would not be recognized as myth, but would be regarded as fact, whether true or not. I certainly think that QAnon, have a strong collective view.

Anybody notice there are very few women on here? Just askin'.

Fernapple comments on Oct 8, 2020:

No, seems like there are more of them to me. Different people seem to see completely different sites on here, I think it may have a lot to do with how you have your preferences set, try adjusting your settings.

Two Win Nobel Prize in Chemistry For Developing Method For Genome Editing

Fernapple comments on Oct 8, 2020:

You mean that a Nobel prize is going to real people for real achievements, and not to political activists. Wow that's a turn up.

Orcas attacking yachts off Spanish coast could be doing so 'in revenge'

Fernapple comments on Oct 8, 2020:

Of course what seems like a violent attack to the boat crews, could just be youthful mischief by the orca.

My atheism offends you? [facebook.com]

Fernapple comments on Oct 8, 2020:

The best reply to that is. How can a my absence of something be more offensive, than the presence of your religion. My house may be ugly, but if you are offended by the open space where there is no house, then the problem is yours.

A thought for today

Fernapple comments on Oct 8, 2020:

It is a big job, especially since there may well be forty idiots for every scholar. PS. As a mater of interest. Did you know that in the original Greek, idiot, meant 'selfish person' rather than fool.

Nietzsche on philosophy

Fernapple comments on Oct 8, 2020:

No. The masses as defined by 'uneducated' need good, reasonable quality education. The failing of education then and now, is in part fueled by the church's and other vested interests desire to use the school systems of the world, to actively suppress education. The excuse available in Nietzsche's day that the world did not have the resources to provide everyone, in the developed world at least, with a high standard of education no longer exists.

Common Sense Atheism on Quora "What is it that keeps atheists going on in their life?

Fernapple comments on Oct 7, 2020:

No there is I think nothing in the Bible about suicide, I think, (could be wrong). But it does forbid killing. "Thou shalt not kill." Which the church has always interpreted as including, 'self murder', which was always seen as the worst sin, which barred a suicide from heaven forever. Almost certainly that is because the church foresaw the problem you raised long ago, and thought that too many people rushing to heaven, could perhaps be bad for the takings on Sunday. However in the Islamic faith, there do seem to be a few suicide bombers etc. who want to get at those virgins. Though that is, perhaps, a bad reading of the promises made about those who 'fight' for the faith, since it is questionable if suicide bombing is really fighting. So it is worth pointing out, that the prophet and the first caliphs, were warriors who fought face to face with soldiers armed almost exactly like them with swords and shields, and that is no doubt the kind of fighting referred to in their writings. Maybe though, since logic and evidence don't mean much to the religious, the difference between that sort of fighting and bombing unarmed civilians and children, will be lost on the fundamentalists. And if that all seems pedantic, it is not, I am being sarcastic too.

Covid has taught me to slow down. How has it changed you life?

Fernapple comments on Oct 7, 2020:

Sadly it has not. For many years I have worked from home, putting in seven days a week in the summer at least. This year I was supposed to be semi-retiring. 'Wow, now I can get out and about, drive up into the hills, eat out in strange pubs and cafes far from home, visit other peoples gardens, etc; thought I ' And guess what, I am still stuck at home, but now its called social distancing.

Here’s a zinger in the sense that you can tell somebody that we know more now than Jesus did or ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 7, 2020:

I think we are a lot closer to a universal truth than they were, if only by doubting there is a universal truth at all. Knowing at least the negative, that it is more difficult and complicated to find a universal truth, and therefore not being fulfilled by easy fake answers, is a big step towards universal truth. ( Especially if the universal truth is that there is not one. )

3 results playing with colour

Fernapple comments on Oct 7, 2020:

Got it now. Your post seems to have duplicated itself, and there is a blank copy without the pictures in the way.

“When the debate is over, slander becomes the tool of the loser”..............Socrates.

Fernapple comments on Oct 7, 2020:

Or any other weapon that comes to hand. In Socrates case it was the law.

Can anyone relate?

Fernapple comments on Oct 7, 2020:

No. That is just the same logic as conspiracy theory, seeing agencies to explain, where there is only complexity beyond understanding. And the belief in good and evil is itself a personalization, there is only, I like and I don't like, which may differ from one observer to the next. Human morality is a useful thing to humans but it has no meaning in the larger universe, the belief in good and evil is therefore only human hubris, seeing the universe as human centered and existing only to be interpreted through human eyes, which is just not true.

3 recent resukts playing with colour

Fernapple comments on Oct 7, 2020:

Sorry, nothing to be seen.

How can anyone seriously stand behind the motto "In God We Trust"?

Fernapple comments on Oct 6, 2020:

As well as the atheists and agnostics of the world, do not also forget that there are Buddhists, Animists, Pantheists, even some Deists and dozens more groups who do not hold with the idea of a single, all powerful god, as implied by that statement. It really is a statement of theist imperialism, and intolerance, intended to provoke and belittle anyone not willing to sign up for theocracy.

Have anyone can tell that is there any motivational speaker or seminar who doesn't mention the word ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 6, 2020:

Hello and welcome, enjoy the site. Yes why not try TED Talks, of which you will find lots on youtube, many of which fall into the motivational band without mentioning god.

This explains why he was released so soon.

Fernapple comments on Oct 6, 2020:

Yes but if that is true. Then you have to explain how he managed to persuade someone so good at writing, to forge that letter for him ?

Trump's doctor makes it clear he shouldn't be leaving the hospital yet

Fernapple comments on Oct 6, 2020:

If Putin says he should leave hospital, what else can he do ?

Wisdom from Israeli historian Professor Yuval Noah Harari: ❝Culture is a kind of mental ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 6, 2020:

Very good. Have long read him with pleasure. R. Dawkins of course made the point that religion is an infection of the mind, but I have long thought that the idea should really be applied to all of human culture.

"Science is simply common sense at its best, that is, rigidly accurate in observation, and merciless...

Fernapple comments on Oct 6, 2020:

It is not always at its best, but it is an attempt to organize and formalize common sense.

The newest StreetRhythms blog post. I just published. [graffitti.home.blog] [youtube.com]

Fernapple comments on Oct 5, 2020:

Ah! Morgan James. Here is something, real slow, to enjoy with a slow drink. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_ekta_LzS0=RD1_ekta_LzS0=1

"Open your mind or be left behind" -Robert Graham

Fernapple comments on Oct 5, 2020:

I feel that I have always had an open mind, this explains why my ambition to be left behind, has never come to anything. Now I know what I have been doing wrong. LOL

Question: Are Millenials really the whiny, entitled, spoiled bunch of brats I hear so many ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 5, 2020:

Every generation thinks that the next generation are exceptionally selfish, whiny and incompetent. That is because they have forgotten how, selfish, whiny, and incompetent they were, when they were that age. The delusion is compounded by the education systems of the world, who put out the myth that they turn out fully finished humans qualified for anything. When in reality life is complicated and it takes forty or fifty years at least to master all the skills, social and intellectual, needed to make a good fist of it, and some never make it. You have to cut the young some slack, because twenty years old is still a baby, and thirty is only a toddler, and it always has been so.

“Wise men learn more from fools than fools from the wise”..............Cato the Elder.

Fernapple comments on Oct 5, 2020:

Having said that, Cato never learn how not to be a grumpy old #########.

Last (maybe) "rescue" plant saved from the Lowes dumpster line.

Fernapple comments on Oct 5, 2020:

The flowers are not that tiny, in fact quite good.

FYI History Lesson - Pandemic 1918 [smithsonianmag.]

Fernapple comments on Oct 4, 2020:

Did not know that bit of history, thank you.

Agnostic Dot Com

Fernapple comments on Oct 4, 2020:

Mentioned on line.

Trump says he has COVID-19. Is it a stunt?

Fernapple comments on Oct 4, 2020:

He may gain some sympathy from some, (not many I think) but it will be a the expense of credibility, after his very obvious stance on covid.

I Will Survive, Coronavirus version for teachers going online - YouTube

Fernapple comments on Oct 3, 2020:

Sad. Was once a great song that. LOL

So you think you are right?

Fernapple comments on Oct 3, 2020:

Could also be both wrong. Could be a drawing for a coat hook, for example. Even if I can prove that you are wrong, it does not mean that I am right. May interest you. If you can forgive me plugging my own stuff. https://agnostic.com/article/528342/an-old-story

I'm curious to see what you have to say about why we are here...

Fernapple comments on Oct 3, 2020:

There is no why except as infinite regress. Only when, where, how and what. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn6fE8PvVCE

My thoughts are with the virus during this difficult time.

Fernapple comments on Oct 3, 2020:

Yep, fancy some of the horrible bodies you have to inhabit, just to survive.

The president has been transferred to Walter Reed Hospital.

Fernapple comments on Oct 3, 2020:

He also, it seems, had himself tested, every day !!! After he widely derided testing.

My 12-year-old and I just watched “we believe in dinosaurs”.

Fernapple comments on Oct 3, 2020:

Links are a good idea, or if it is not on line, the name of a production company.

Four plus hours.

Fernapple comments on Oct 3, 2020:

Its the nonsense that keeps you young, do more.

The Deep Anthropocene A revolution in archaeology has exposed the extraordinary extent of human ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 2, 2020:

Sorry, it says bad gateway, link not working.

How's this for irony?

Fernapple comments on Oct 2, 2020:

Yes but think what science will learn from observing the battle between two life forms with an exactly equal IQ.

“Blessed is the man who, having nothing to say, abstains from giving us wordy evidence of the ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 2, 2020:

That's bril.

Here we go again: COVID spikes are happening because politicians let ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 2, 2020:

Neighborhoods like the White House especially it seems.

Announcement The President and First Lady just went into COVID quarantine, we don't know what it ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 2, 2020:

Don't know where you found the picture, but it is great.

Another GOP stalwart leaps off the Trump train. Hilarious and apt.

Fernapple comments on Oct 2, 2020:

"two animal control guys attempting to remove a mad raccoon from your attic." I love it, you can turn a really good one liner.

This is beautiful,sad and hopeful so I had to share.

Fernapple comments on Oct 2, 2020:

And never forget the suffragettes.

Ten kinetic sculptures by Anne Lilly [boingboing.net] .

Fernapple comments on Oct 2, 2020:

Lovely. I bet I can't afford to buy one. Off down to the shed.

Donny Dumb-Dumb and Melania tested positive for COVID-19.

Fernapple comments on Oct 2, 2020:

Maybe he is just faking it, as a tactical move to win the sympathy vote and avoid another debate ? LOL

Window shortcut to add emojis Do you ever use Agnostic on your laptop/desktop instead of your ...

Fernapple comments on Oct 1, 2020:

Hey, I love it. ❤ I can be a proper Emoli bore like all the others ❤ now, without even trying.😂😂😂😂😂

Early surge of Democratic mail voting sparks worry inside GOP

Fernapple comments on Sep 30, 2020:

Weird. I the UK mail votes are kept strictly secret and it is not even legal to report them, until after all the votes are counted.

Last night's debate has nudged me closer to something that would not have seriously crossed my mind ...

Fernapple comments on Sep 30, 2020:

Portugal. Wonderful climate, no nasty wildlife, good people, reasonably priced, nice history, culture, countryside (hills and coast), most people speak English but language not hard to learn, human sized country but good rail and road links to the rest of western Europe.

Nice one from Trevor Noah's, The Daily Show: [youtu.be] Insightful!

Fernapple comments on Sep 30, 2020:

Video not available, in your country.

Returned NewName Re-Hi! I was a member here a couple of years ago, but cannot remember my ...

Fernapple comments on Sep 30, 2020:

Hello and welcome back.

Accept that some days you’re the pigeon, and some days you’re the statue. Which one are you?

Fernapple comments on Sep 30, 2020:

Generally I seem to be the cleaner, who has to scrub it of, and nobody ever seems to tell me about it until there is a lot and its gone hard.

“Treat everyone with politeness and kindness, not because they are nice, but because you ...

Fernapple comments on Sep 29, 2020:

Or because you are a nasty person, and you want to draw them in.

Real Proof that Jesus was NOT real - YouTube

Fernapple comments on Sep 29, 2020:

Jesus as found in the traditional stories, may have been a fictional creation intended either as a deception as a metaphor or both, a muddled piece of reportage based on one individual, or ditto based on several compounded individuals, or a myth based on old traditional stories lazily linked to a single name, but not perhaps from a single source. It could, most likely, be a combination of all of those things. What is certain however is that after all this time and given the muddled nature of the very doubtful evidence, is that, anyone who thinks that they can untangle the truth about what happened, briefly, in a minor country, on the edge of civilization, and at the beginning of history, is deluding themselves. This quite old idea, therefore can not be said to be either true or false, though it does throw yet another, quite plausible stick on to the pile. Though it has also to be said, that a lot of the issues of the nativity etc. only appear in Matthew and Luke, and are almost certainly late additions.

I love these darned things

Fernapple comments on Sep 29, 2020:

Number three. These are even better than the last bunch.

Something a little philosophical?

Fernapple comments on Sep 29, 2020:

You can choose between the meaning you create yourself, just as you paint. Or you can take the off the shelf meaning created by fake authority, and sold by dealers in church.

A reminder for the religious...

Fernapple comments on Sep 29, 2020:

Good one. Would be even better though if the first line came last, perhaps.

So where do you get your morality from if you’re an atheist?

Fernapple comments on Sep 29, 2020:

The long answer, involves hard wired empathy, reason, cultural experience, etc. The short answer. "From the same sources you do, except I don't try to give mine extra authority or claim they are free from being questioned, because I cherry picked them from a supernatural book. Mine are open to questions."

The circle of life.

Fernapple comments on Sep 28, 2020:

Nappies.

Cute Monday afternoon 🔅 all 🙈☺

Fernapple comments on Sep 28, 2020:

Very well groomed.

"The only antidote to mental suffering is physical pain." - Karl Marx

Fernapple comments on Sep 28, 2020:

Philosophy, reason , human kindness, learning, understanding, conversation, adventure, work.

NG TUNG CHAI WATER FALLS: HONG KONG 🌱🌿🍃🍀💚 Is One of the most unique and rewarding...

Fernapple comments on Sep 27, 2020:

Lovely photos, glad you can still get a good day out in these difficult times.

The Lack of Opposite-Gender Friendships Among Evangelicals is Itself a Problem | Beth Stoneburner | ...

Fernapple comments on Sep 27, 2020:

You could not invent it.

I have also posted this in my group.

Fernapple comments on Sep 27, 2020:

That is a very human exceptionalistic view. But try this. https://agnostic.com/group/ReligiousNaturalism/discussion/537356/michael-dowd-on-post-doom-thinking-and-living-sans-supernatural-ideation-https-youtu-b

11 th commandment .

Fernapple comments on Sep 27, 2020:

Don't think that will either.

Tues. November third, the day I will decide whether I sell my house and move or stay in the USA.

Fernapple comments on Sep 27, 2020:

Just posted this, may be of interest. https://agnostic.com/discussion/538098/some-of-the-less-well-known-but-still-serious-fallout-from-the-pandemic-you-have-to-wonder-if-there

Europe sees new coronavirus peaks, countries set all-time case records - Business Insider

Fernapple comments on Sep 26, 2020:

Yep its coming back.