I saw in the paper today that the supreme court is deciding whether to use public funds to support ...

Flyingsaucesir comments on Jan 24, 2020:

To hear Republican Senators talk, it looks like the Senate is about to give Trump a pass on obstruction of Congress and abuse of office (attempting to extort a foreign country to meddle in the upcoming election). And that is in the face of overwhelming evidence that the president is guilty of both ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 25, 2020:

@Seeker3CO Expected what? That the Repugs would turn a blind eye? Alas, yes. But I still hold out hope that at least they will allow more witnesses and documents to be introduced into the record.

I saw in the paper today that the supreme court is deciding whether to use public funds to support ...

Flyingsaucesir comments on Jan 24, 2020:

To hear Republican Senators talk, it looks like the Senate is about to give Trump a pass on obstruction of Congress and abuse of office (attempting to extort a foreign country to meddle in the upcoming election). And that is in the face of overwhelming evidence that the president is guilty of both ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 25, 2020:

@benhmiller Right on bra!

Should creationism be taught in schools?

Rehawk2308 comments on Jan 9, 2020:

You can't just teach one religions origin story. if you are going to teach one fairy tale then you will need to teach them all. Creationism and any other form of unverifiable belief would also need to be taught in comparison, including those no longer practiced. This would take entirely too much ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 10, 2020:

You are right about one thing: there are hundreds (maybe thousands) of creation myths. You can't teach them all in a biology class.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

Harrison comments on Jan 8, 2020:

While teaching the science, there's nothing wrong with pointing out that there are many mythological and allegorical explanations as to how the universe works and how it came about. But there's no reason to single out Christian creationism as if there's anything special about it.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 8, 2020:

No reason other than time constraints and the overwhelming dominance of the Judeo/Christian mythology in the western hemisphere.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

SeaGreenEyez comments on Jan 6, 2020:

A World Religion survey course should be mandatory in all American publicly funded schools. It should be required for a high school diploma. This should coincide with a mandatory Science curriculum that delves into evolution. Both should be taught, but not as opposing options. The idea ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 8, 2020:

@SeaGreenEyez BTW, my occupation is biology/Earth science teacher....but I'm trying real hard to quit!

Should creationism be taught in schools?

SeaGreenEyez comments on Jan 6, 2020:

A World Religion survey course should be mandatory in all American publicly funded schools. It should be required for a high school diploma. This should coincide with a mandatory Science curriculum that delves into evolution. Both should be taught, but not as opposing options. The idea ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 8, 2020:

@SeaGreenEyez Yeah, I know I can be a real pain...sorry.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

SeaGreenEyez comments on Jan 6, 2020:

A World Religion survey course should be mandatory in all American publicly funded schools. It should be required for a high school diploma. This should coincide with a mandatory Science curriculum that delves into evolution. Both should be taught, but not as opposing options. The idea ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 7, 2020:

@SeaGreenEyez Sorry about the lecture...it's an occupational hazard.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

MakeItGood comments on Jan 6, 2020:

I mean...it's wrong so...don't teach it? As far as I know we don't teach any flat earth or non-heliocentric theories.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 7, 2020:

@LimitedLight ????

Should creationism be taught in schools?

SeaGreenEyez comments on Jan 6, 2020:

A World Religion survey course should be mandatory in all American publicly funded schools. It should be required for a high school diploma. This should coincide with a mandatory Science curriculum that delves into evolution. Both should be taught, but not as opposing options. The idea ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 7, 2020:

@SeaGreenEyez Leave it to a Mormon bishop to claim that the question of the origin of species cannot be definitively answered! He is dead wrong! We know with certainty how new species come into being. The process is called Darwinian evolution. There are still some open questions about the details of the very first living cells, but no one in biology thinks it was in any way magical or divinely inspired. There is plenty of evidence that simple inorganic compounds can give rise to complex organic compounds, including amino acids, polypeptides, and RNA nucleotides. That's basically what you need to get life started. The reason we don't see abiogenesis occurring today is that the world is already full of hungry living things, which eat up any organics that might be lying around. Darwinian evolution is universally accepted among biologists. The good bishop is a physicist, not a biologist, so that may explain the gap in his understanding. Or he may just want to avoid the topic altogether because he does not want to deal with the controversy. He would not be the first teacher to take the easy way out.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

MakeItGood comments on Jan 6, 2020:

I mean...it's wrong so...don't teach it? As far as I know we don't teach any flat earth or non-heliocentric theories.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 7, 2020:

@LimitedLight Geology major, 20 years teaching biology and Earth science.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

MakeItGood comments on Jan 6, 2020:

I mean...it's wrong so...don't teach it? As far as I know we don't teach any flat earth or non-heliocentric theories.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 7, 2020:

@LimitedLight Ptolemy was just working off Aristotle's model. The Catholic church had interpreted it to signify confirmation that man (not woman!) was God's favorite creature. Ptolemy performed what could be called scientific contortionism, twisting Aristotle's model to fit observation. But it did not work. Copernicus was not convinced. Nor were Galileo or keppler. Ptolemy tried to draw inside the lines of religious dogma, and earned himself a footnote in the history books.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

MakeItGood comments on Jan 6, 2020:

I mean...it's wrong so...don't teach it? As far as I know we don't teach any flat earth or non-heliocentric theories.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 7, 2020:

@LimitedLight I am not saying Ptolemy's solution wasn't ingenious.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

motrubl4u comments on Jan 6, 2020:

Creationism should most certainly never be taught in schools (unless it's a blow off comedy class in college). Its a topic used to indoctrinate children.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

@motrubl4u Well everybody has heard of it already; it is culturally significant.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

rogueflyer comments on Jan 6, 2020:

Creationism or Intelligent Design should be taught as what some people believe, but not taught as reality. Better a science teacher discusses these issues than a preacher. It's called teaching critical thought.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

Yes! Thank you!

Should creationism be taught in schools?

JonQ comments on Jan 6, 2020:

This Biblical creationism cartoon 'only takes up a small fraction of the instructional time' for the students. Also would serve as anti-bullying, well not from God, but from other students. ;)

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

Nice!

Should creationism be taught in schools?

SeaGreenEyez comments on Jan 6, 2020:

A World Religion survey course should be mandatory in all American publicly funded schools. It should be required for a high school diploma. This should coincide with a mandatory Science curriculum that delves into evolution. Both should be taught, but not as opposing options. The idea ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

I appreciate your thoughtful comments! I suppose the main impetus for mentioning creationism in a science class is that it purports to explain an aspect of nature, and in so doing encroaches on the territory of science. And the religionists vigorously promote their half-baked ideas ad nauseum. The teacher has a choice: ignore this encroachment, or face it down. It is really not possible to fully ignore it. Students will invariably bring it up. What then? Ignore those questions and comments? It would look rather like you were running away from something.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

Davesnothere comments on Jan 6, 2020:

NO

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

Nice graphic!

Should creationism be taught in schools?

TheMiddleWay comments on Jan 6, 2020:

I agree with the teacher. I've never shied away from discussing this subject in my physics class. As the quote in the OP states, this really takes very little time since there is very little to discuss (traditionally, just a few passages from the bible). As well, it gives me a chance to spring board...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

Thank you for your thoughtful comments!

Should creationism be taught in schools?

MakeItGood comments on Jan 6, 2020:

I mean...it's wrong so...don't teach it? As far as I know we don't teach any flat earth or non-heliocentric theories.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

@LimitedLight Actually, Aristarchus of Samos proposed a heliocentric model in the 5th century BCE. Unfortunately, it was eclipsed by Aristotle's deeply flawed model.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

Marionville comments on Jan 6, 2020:

No, I don’t believe it has any place being taught alongside evolution as that somehow elevates it’s status and implies a kind of equivalence that it doesn’t merit. The only place on the school curriculum for any biblical study, including the creation story in Genesis, is in the study of ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

There is no thing in the world that can be described or explained without reference to other things. Mentioning creationism in a biology class simply lends important context to the central subject, i.e. the science. To not acknowledge that there still exists (in some people's minds) doubt as to the veracity of Darwin's theory seems a bit like denial, or even cowardice.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

motrubl4u comments on Jan 6, 2020:

Creationism should most certainly never be taught in schools (unless it's a blow off comedy class in college). Its a topic used to indoctrinate children.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

I agree. Creationism should not be taught. However, I think simply mentioning the myth to give context to the real subject (evolution) is valid. And really, there is not much about creationism to teach. You mention it, you briefly outline the idea, and then move on.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

jwd45244 comments on Jan 6, 2020:

Why pick just the Judeo Christian creation story. There are many others that could be taught as well.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

Mention of mythology does not have to be limited to just creationism. I think the original question (which by the way, I found on okcupid), focusses only on the one myth because it is the dominant one in the USA.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

Cinco comments on Jan 6, 2020:

you Mention telling “ both stories”. Only one of these is a story and the other is fact. But more importantly the are many creation stories out there so do we now have to present all of them in order to perform this comparison? Is this realistic to spend so much time on myth when there is so ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

Again, very little time is spent on the myth. There is simply not much there to cover. It can be encapsulated in one sentence. Or if you want to go whole hog, spend five minutes.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

KKGator comments on Jan 6, 2020:

LMFAO!!!!!! That's a joke, right? I mean, it has to be. You can't possibly be serious. Creationism? What "creator"???? There's no "creator" to have "created" anything. So there's NOTHING to teach. Thanks for the laugh. That's the funniest thing I've read all day. Seriously. Thank you! ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

Yes! You get it!

Should creationism be taught in schools?

JohnnyQB comments on Jan 6, 2020:

One common misconception. There is a huge difference between teaching a subject and teaching about a subject. I think we should all be aware of it, but there is no content in creationism to teach. God did it.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

Exactly. Bingo!

Should creationism be taught in schools?

MakeItGood comments on Jan 6, 2020:

I mean...it's wrong so...don't teach it? As far as I know we don't teach any flat earth or non-heliocentric theories.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

@LimitedLight ...were not helpful in getting to the truth.

Should creationism be taught in schools?

MakeItGood comments on Jan 6, 2020:

I mean...it's wrong so...don't teach it? As far as I know we don't teach any flat earth or non-heliocentric theories.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 6, 2020:

Actually, geocentrism, its history and proponents, is commonly mentioned in lessons on heliocentrism. It's a natural starting place...

Am I wrong?

Iamkratom comments on Jan 4, 2020:

They live to be offended and believe that it is their God given right to offend. I don't believe that 75 percent of the people who call themselves Christian are, indeed, Christian. They are merely looking for ways to channel their hate without consequences. Oddly even my non belief is a stronger ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 4, 2020:

In other words, you are saying that a lot of so-called Christians are really just hypocritical posers? That is consistent with my observations.

Conservative Christians Claim Democrats Impeached ‘God-Fearing Americans’ | Michael Stone

Flyingsaucesir comments on Jan 2, 2020:

The latest ploy by Trump supporters to conflate impeachment of Trump with impeachment of all Christians is intellectually bankrupt. It is just a lot of hot air, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. It is true that Trump has a lot of support among evangelical Christians. Over 80% of ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 3, 2020:

@Paul4747 All you predict has already happened. And one editorial is not going to change many minds. But if it is given any serious consideration by even a few, that is progress.

The hospital clerk asked my religion before a medical procedure.

davknight comments on Dec 31, 2019:

The Theists say there IS a "God", without being able to prove it. The Atheists say there ISN'T a "God", without being able to prove it. Therefore, Atheism is merely another kind of Religion.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jan 1, 2020:

@Stephanie99 I can live with .00000000001% uncertainty.😄

The hospital clerk asked my religion before a medical procedure.

davknight comments on Dec 31, 2019:

The Theists say there IS a "God", without being able to prove it. The Atheists say there ISN'T a "God", without being able to prove it. Therefore, Atheism is merely another kind of Religion.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 31, 2019:

@Stephanie99 In fact, it is impossible to prove the non-existence of anything. The best we can do is estimate the probability of its existence with numbers like .00000001%, or words like high or low (or vanishingly small, as in God's case).

So, sitting on the throne in a Walmart bathroom, i look over & someone has printed, neatly, in black...

Flyingsaucesir comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Given Trump's history of misogyny and sexual assaults on women, it's hard to understand how ANY female could be a supporter. To empower the violator and invite more abuse and mistreatment, she who scribbled the graffiti must be a pathetic creature, more an object of pity than scorn. I just feel ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 23, 2019:

@ReadyforaChange Hmmm....an interesting hypothesis. You may be right.

I’ve listened patiently for a few months trying to understand the dichotomy between Agnostics & ...

Seeker3CO comments on Dec 19, 2019:

I think atheists have taken the time to truly figure it out and agnostics are either closet theists or unwilling to take the step they know they need to.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 23, 2019:

Here are FSF's actual words: "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function."

I’ve listened patiently for a few months trying to understand the dichotomy between Agnostics & ...

Seeker3CO comments on Dec 19, 2019:

I think atheists have taken the time to truly figure it out and agnostics are either closet theists or unwilling to take the step they know they need to.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 23, 2019:

Who was it that said the sign if a first-rate intelligence is the ability to simultaneously hold two opposing views? F. Scott Fitzgerald?

I’ve listened patiently for a few months trying to understand the dichotomy between Agnostics & ...

OldMetalHead comments on Dec 19, 2019:

The either or definition irks me. Like Dawkins, I believe it's a spectrum. Level six and introverted btw.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 23, 2019:

Yeah I'm a level six too.

I’ve listened patiently for a few months trying to understand the dichotomy between Agnostics & ...

ToolGuy comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Nonsense. Mostly because Meyers Briggs is nonsense.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 23, 2019:

Nice graphics. And yes. Meyers-Briggs is BS.

So, sitting on the throne in a Walmart bathroom, i look over & someone has printed, neatly, in black...

KittensandSage comments on Dec 22, 2019:

it's so appropriate. such a strong indicator of support voter base. so magical

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 23, 2019:

Do I detect a hint of sarcasm? LOL!

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KittensandSage comments on Dec 18, 2019:

I work with many who really think global warning is fake news. I was "corrected" just yesterday. Keep putting it out there, & thank you. We have to keep climate change & environment on highest level priority.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 21, 2019:

I second that emotion!

Kanye says he may legally change his name to 'Christian Genius Billionaire Kanye West'

CarolinaGirl60 comments on Dec 3, 2019:

Oh for fuck sake. 🙄. That’s my response to him and too many others! I’ve seriously got EFS(Eyeroll Fatigue Syndrome).

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 4, 2019:

@Larry68Feminist I wish I could forget it.

freshly minted ex-facebooger: I just deactivated my Facebook account.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Dec 1, 2019:

In leaving Facebook you have probably made a wise decision. The company has shown itself to be totally irresponsible in allowing false content to be spread around by actors who are hostile to democracy. It was just this type of content, originating in Russian military intelligence, that was so ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 4, 2019:

@RavenCT I totally get it. It can seem like tilting at windmills, mixing it up with the peckerwoods. But sometimes I like the intellectual challenge. It can be better than a crossword puzzle. ☺

freshly minted ex-facebooger: I just deactivated my Facebook account.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Dec 1, 2019:

In leaving Facebook you have probably made a wise decision. The company has shown itself to be totally irresponsible in allowing false content to be spread around by actors who are hostile to democracy. It was just this type of content, originating in Russian military intelligence, that was so ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 3, 2019:

@RavenCT Blocked you? That sounds rather cowardly.

freshly minted ex-facebooger: I just deactivated my Facebook account.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Dec 1, 2019:

In leaving Facebook you have probably made a wise decision. The company has shown itself to be totally irresponsible in allowing false content to be spread around by actors who are hostile to democracy. It was just this type of content, originating in Russian military intelligence, that was so ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 2, 2019:

@RavenCT Wow, thanks for the compliment! I wish you could see the other side too. I wonder why you cannot. You probably gathered that my interlocutor and I had crossed paths before. It goes back to the days following the 2016 election. He consistently takes a pro-Russia/Trump position, denying what actually occurred while doing his best to obfuscate and distract from the real issues. He pretends to be an Aussie but I think he is a Russian military troll. His English has improved in the last three years, but he still slips up once in a while. To my querry about his rank he replied, "You can call me Tsar." (!)

Should the USA try to keep Muslims out of their country?

Imatheistically comments on Nov 25, 2019:

There is no greater threat to civilization on this planent, then the terrorist based death cult known as "Islam"! It is one "religion" that does NOT deserve the freedom to exist! Not in the USS, nor anywhere else on the planet!

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 2, 2019:

@Grecio Yeah I understand it's long odds against getting the exemption revoked. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying!☺

freshly minted ex-facebooger: I just deactivated my Facebook account.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Dec 1, 2019:

In leaving Facebook you have probably made a wise decision. The company has shown itself to be totally irresponsible in allowing false content to be spread around by actors who are hostile to democracy. It was just this type of content, originating in Russian military intelligence, that was so ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 2, 2019:

@powder Oh yeah, it's true that American people have been disenfranchised. Nothing new there. Mostly black people, getting screwed over by racist white Americans. There is no doubt that this country has much to account for. Like I said, it's a messy system. But it has the potential to be so much more. And much progress has been made. What we don't need is foreign influences like the 70,000 fake Facebook accounts run by Putin's Internet Research Agency, which were so adroitly targeted with the help of massive amounts if data supplied by Cambridge Analytica. But I think you have a much more intimate knowledge of that than you let on. What is your rank, if you don't mind my asking?

freshly minted ex-facebooger: I just deactivated my Facebook account.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Dec 1, 2019:

In leaving Facebook you have probably made a wise decision. The company has shown itself to be totally irresponsible in allowing false content to be spread around by actors who are hostile to democracy. It was just this type of content, originating in Russian military intelligence, that was so ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 2, 2019:

@powder I think you wanted to say "woke people like you...." Don't worry, your English is quite good. You should be proud of your accomplishment. As for the ease with which Americans can be manipulated, it is not at all surprising. You see, in this country we have freedom of expression. People are allowed to say whatever they want within broad limits. And they are allowed to decide for themselves what they accept or reject. It's a messy system, and we have not yet learned how to deal with this new phenomenon called social media. But we are learning. Are we learning fast enough to avoid a takeover by criminals? One can only hope. Still, I would take this country any day over one like Putin's Russia, where journalists and political opponents are simply murdered or jailed on trumped-up charges.

freshly minted ex-facebooger: I just deactivated my Facebook account.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Dec 1, 2019:

In leaving Facebook you have probably made a wise decision. The company has shown itself to be totally irresponsible in allowing false content to be spread around by actors who are hostile to democracy. It was just this type of content, originating in Russian military intelligence, that was so ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 2, 2019:

@powder Hey its been a while since I last heard from you. Still peddling that Russia-friendly line of bullshit I see. You must really think we are all idiots. It is obvious that Putin's shenanigans, meddling in other countries politics, etc., has paid off spectacularly in terms of sowing division and discord among his opponents. With an American President bending over backwards for him, Putin has never had a stronger hand since his illegal annexation of Crimea and Invasion of eastern Ukraine. He has managed to get a few Republicans in Congress to repeat (with straight faces!) the fiction that it was Ukraine who hacked the 2016 election. It's quite an accomplishment! Of course, the sanctions are still biting. The Russian people have had a tough time. They are getting impatient with the Putin's kleptocracy. I'm sure Vlad is a bit nervous. It was never going to be a simple thing to get the sanctions lifted But Putin is crafty and patient and implacable. He is playing the long game, and doing it masterfully. I have to give him that. It would be a grave mistake to ever underestimate him. Actually I'm not surprised to hear from you, now that the 2020 election is just around the corner. It's about time for the snakes to wake up and start slithering around.

Should the USA try to keep Muslims out of their country?

Imatheistically comments on Nov 25, 2019:

There is no greater threat to civilization on this planent, then the terrorist based death cult known as "Islam"! It is one "religion" that does NOT deserve the freedom to exist! Not in the USS, nor anywhere else on the planet!

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 1, 2019:

@Grecio Let's not forget that many recent mass shootings in the US have been committed by Christians under the banner of white supremacy. I think we agree that the USA would be a better place without religion. Unfortunately, it is not a realistic goal. The founders understood this, and went for the next best thing: separation of church and state. At least that way none of them can achieve hegemony. We might do well to clip their wings by revoking the tax-exempt status of all organized religions.

Should the USA try to keep Muslims out of their country?

Flyingsaucesir comments on Nov 26, 2019:

Do you mean, should Americans try to keep Muslims out of the USA? No, I don't think so. It's unconstitutional to favor one religion over another.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Dec 1, 2019:

@Grecio True, sharia law is backward and its adherents are dangerous thugs. Christians are also known to have done some very bad things in the name of God, and you don't have to go all the way back to the Crusades or the Inquisition to find them. Witness the genocide committed by Serbian Christians in the 1980s. To me, lining up and shooting unarmed civilians just because they are Moslems is right up there with beheading journalists or stoning fornicators.

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

KittensandSage comments on Nov 26, 2019:

Excellent summation of facts. You addressed the timeline succinctly, with the most pertinent facts. I’ve watching/listening too. The latest, with his pardoning of Seal represents to me that he’s gathering string of strongmen for his team, mobstyle, while the sheeple watch in rapture as the ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 27, 2019:

Thanks for your intelligent analysis! Where I have only provided a summary of the facts you have distilled them into a potion to foretell the future. And it's a bleak and scary prospectus. I don't disagree with your assessment. However, I think there is still a good chance that American institutions (like rule of law, democratic elections, etc., will withstand this stress test. Remember, Donald J. Trump is essentially a coward and a dolt. The immigration issue, while important, is being used to distract us all from more pressing issues like climate change and the widening gap between the haves and the have-nots. It is possible that the truth will become apparent to a critical mass and we will oust this pack of miserable, mangy curs from power. Half the country already sees that this emperor has no clothes. All we need is a few percent more to have the scales removed from their eyes. And as time goes on the facts on the ground (and in the air and water) will become more visible to more people. Also remember that the core of Trump's base is evangelical Christians, who are predominantly ignorant old farts whose tired ideas are, by and large, not being embraced by younger people. So there is hope. We ain't done yet!

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

Davesnothere comments on Nov 25, 2019:

And the GOP does not care, and keeps repeating Putin's line "Blame Ukraine, not Russia, which Trump touts and 30% of Americans now believe. Consider this . . . A popular shirt at Trump rallies is "I would rather be a Russian than a Democrat" Either they do not understand that is treasonous or ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 26, 2019:

@Davesnothere Huh! Trump makes Tricky Dicky look like frigging choirboy. How can they miss that? I mean, how can they fail to see that Trump's actions are so egregious, they had no choice but to impeach.

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

Davesnothere comments on Nov 25, 2019:

And the GOP does not care, and keeps repeating Putin's line "Blame Ukraine, not Russia, which Trump touts and 30% of Americans now believe. Consider this . . . A popular shirt at Trump rallies is "I would rather be a Russian than a Democrat" Either they do not understand that is treasonous or ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 26, 2019:

@Davesnothere No, I did not see it; I will look for it. Were you not able to make any headway among the vets?

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

Davesnothere comments on Nov 25, 2019:

And the GOP does not care, and keeps repeating Putin's line "Blame Ukraine, not Russia, which Trump touts and 30% of Americans now believe. Consider this . . . A popular shirt at Trump rallies is "I would rather be a Russian than a Democrat" Either they do not understand that is treasonous or ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 26, 2019:

@Davesnothere I'm not a vet but salute your service (and articulate good sense).

Should the USA try to keep Muslims out of their country?

Imatheistically comments on Nov 25, 2019:

There is no greater threat to civilization on this planent, then the terrorist based death cult known as "Islam"! It is one "religion" that does NOT deserve the freedom to exist! Not in the USS, nor anywhere else on the planet!

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 26, 2019:

Christianity is right up there in terms of death cults. In fact, it's probably worse.

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

Davesnothere comments on Nov 25, 2019:

And the GOP does not care, and keeps repeating Putin's line "Blame Ukraine, not Russia, which Trump touts and 30% of Americans now believe. Consider this . . . A popular shirt at Trump rallies is "I would rather be a Russian than a Democrat" Either they do not understand that is treasonous or ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 26, 2019:

@Davesnothere Roger dat homie. You know what's up!

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

Davesnothere comments on Nov 25, 2019:

And the GOP does not care, and keeps repeating Putin's line "Blame Ukraine, not Russia, which Trump touts and 30% of Americans now believe. Consider this . . . A popular shirt at Trump rallies is "I would rather be a Russian than a Democrat" Either they do not understand that is treasonous or ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 26, 2019:

@Davesnothere If he can get away with using American treasure to bribe a foreign entity to help with his election, do it in plain sight and not suffer a consequence, then democracy in America is dead and we have ourselves a dictator. What Trump has done surpasses Nixon's crimes, and if our elected officials, Senators who took an oath to uphold the Constitution, will not call him out, then we are well and truly screwed.

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

t1nick comments on Nov 25, 2019:

Another fact that occurs to me. Part of the Trump Conspiracy entails the DNC servers. During 2016 Presidential campaign. Russia broke into the DNC computer servers. They got copirs of Hillary's campaign adviser's email, as well as some of Hillary's emails. The Russians fed these to the Trump ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 26, 2019:

Alas, a lie that many believe to be the truth. This, to me, is most unsettling. For in a world where lies are truth, anything goes. If not somehow checked, over-ridden, or outnumbered, the acceptance of lies for truth is the end of democracy. So the question then is, how do we change minds in a media environment that includes (allows) Fox News, Infowars, a plethora of fake news websites (some Russian state-sponsored), and a Facebook that refuses to take responsibility for the content it publishes? Who can act as an arbiter that all sides will trust? Or do we have to devolve into civil war? I have always known that it was theoretically possible for a Nazi-style rise of fascism to take shape in this country, but I never thought it would actually happen. I thought we were too wise, too sophisticated, too modern for that. And yet here we are. Jack-booted thugs are on the march. And a bold liar occupies the Oval Office. His impeachment, however damning the evidence, is unlikely to result in his removal. Not where supine senators are in the majority. How do we cut this Gordian knot? Who will be that little kid whose voice everyone will miraculously hear when he cries, "The Emperor has no clothes!"?

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

Davesnothere comments on Nov 25, 2019:

And the GOP does not care, and keeps repeating Putin's line "Blame Ukraine, not Russia, which Trump touts and 30% of Americans now believe. Consider this . . . A popular shirt at Trump rallies is "I would rather be a Russian than a Democrat" Either they do not understand that is treasonous or ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 25, 2019:

How far we have come from "better dead than red!" Pretty much a 180. I'm not saying that the old position vis-avis Russia was quite right. McCarthyism was certainly a stain on the American body politic. But this present threat is not from socialism; it's from organized crime.

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

oldFloyd comments on Nov 25, 2019:

Yes, that about sums it up and way to many believe the orange manure spreader and company.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 25, 2019:

Ha ha, yes! And I'm only laughing because it's better than crying.

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

t1nick comments on Nov 25, 2019:

That is the way I undetstand it. I watched about 1/4 of the testimonies as they occurred when I working. You left a couple of key items that play into the Republican counter-story and conspiracy. 1) While Joe Biden was acting Vice-President, his son took a position on the board of a ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 25, 2019:

Thank you for that succinct summary of the Biden angle! Did those details come out in the Congressional hearings? I actually saw very little of them in real time. Most of what I have learned so far is from watching the PBS Newshour.

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

DenoPenno comments on Nov 25, 2019:

This is exactly how I understand it but Trump supporters can only talk of "what Joe Biden did" when you present it to them. Last Saturday a young man of about 23 told me he understands it all fully but he feels we are over-reacting on it because of outdated laws and principals. This is insane! ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 25, 2019:

Yeah it's like they don't have the bandwidth for any issues beyond immigration.

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

Seeker3CO comments on Nov 25, 2019:

Well done

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 25, 2019:

Thanks! Just doing my civic duty!

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

AnneWimsey comments on Nov 25, 2019:

Well stated, and plenty of it!

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 25, 2019:

Yeah sorry about the length of that post; I just cannot find a way to fit all Trump's multifarious mendacity into a neat little sound bite. This is part of his genius: he always keeps it real simple (e.g., "Witch hunt!")

What I have gathered to date (11-24-19) regarding Trump's Ukraine escapades: 1.

HippieChick58 comments on Nov 25, 2019:

The repubs need a "come to Jesus" moment.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 25, 2019:

Yeah, 'cause right now they're looking a lot like the guy from down under --- and I don't mean Australia.

To any educators in the group.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Nov 7, 2019:

I have been teaching high school science for 20 years. Evolution is one of my favorite subjects. I very matter-of-factly lay out the theory, present the evidence, and let the chips fall where they may. Some people cannot accept it, and that's a shame but it does not change the facts. And who knows? ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Nov 7, 2019:

@MichaelSpinler Ha ha! Thanks bra! Regarding my hair, only a very few last survivors remain of what was once great population. 😎

Land of the free.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Oct 25, 2019:

If Trump has his way we will all soon be (Russian) serfs.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Oct 26, 2019:

@girlwithsmiles I heard that the Russians did to the Brexit referendum what they did to the 2016 US Presidential election, i.e. influenced it by furtively sowing division and discontent on social media. That's why I view Trump's office as illegitimate. I would think it is grounds for a do-over on Brexit too. You are right: it is a very complicated issue. People should be very well informed before being asked to decide. In the US, we always have another election coming up. On Brexit, it's a one-time thing, and really too important to get wrong. A do-over seems only fair.

Land of the free.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Oct 25, 2019:

If Trump has his way we will all soon be (Russian) serfs.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Oct 26, 2019:

@girlwithsmiles What chance do you think there is of another referendum?

We Have Five Years To Save Ourselves From Climate Change, Harvard Scientist Says

Flyingsaucesir comments on Jun 16, 2019:

Five years...might as well be five minutes. It means that at some point our carbon emissions will have to go negative. In other words, reducing emissions to zero will not be good enough. We will need to suck carbon out of the atmosphere. Meanwhile, as the responses of government and industry lag ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Oct 6, 2019:

@Bushshaker Accoeing to what I have heard/read, the oceans are absorbing a lot of CO2. However, as they become warmer, the waters will have less ads less ability to keep gases in solution. And the higher the ocean CO2 concentration, the more acidic the water becomes, which will massively disrupt food webs, coral reef formation, and who knows what else.

Two young Jehovah's Witnesses came to my door yesterday.

snthszr comments on Jul 7, 2019:

When they come to my door, I tell them that i'm not religious and have no need for it, but in a cordial way. If / when they press the topic, I let them in. We always have a friendly discussion, though they tend to paint a very grim picture of the state of the world. In response, I paint what I view ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jul 8, 2019:

I agree. One can be firm and true to one's own convictions (or the lack thereof) without being rude or unpleasant.

Two young Jehovah's Witnesses came to my door yesterday.

JeffMesser comments on Jul 7, 2019:

so some young people felt committed enough in their beliefs to try spreading the word and you used it as time for bullsh!t? why didnt you engage them instead? scared they might convince you of something?? you dont know what path they traveled to get to that point so who are you to ridicule them??? ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jul 7, 2019:

@JeffMesser As far as climate change is concerned, I'm not making any assumptions. I'm just following the science. As for the likelihood of God fixing it before civilization collapses and millions of species go extinct, His record on interventions is not good. And would it be? He is merely another human invention. My lack of confidence in God is well-founded.

Two young Jehovah's Witnesses came to my door yesterday.

JeffMesser comments on Jul 7, 2019:

so some young people felt committed enough in their beliefs to try spreading the word and you used it as time for bullsh!t? why didnt you engage them instead? scared they might convince you of something?? you dont know what path they traveled to get to that point so who are you to ridicule them??? ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jul 7, 2019:

So you think anthropomorphic climate change is bullshit? Boy, are you ever in for an awakening. Stay tuned homie!

Two young Jehovah's Witnesses came to my door yesterday.

JeffMesser comments on Jul 7, 2019:

so some young people felt committed enough in their beliefs to try spreading the word and you used it as time for bullsh!t? why didnt you engage them instead? scared they might convince you of something?? you dont know what path they traveled to get to that point so who are you to ridicule them??? ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jul 7, 2019:

@pasha-one-nine Well said! Thank you!

Any Christopher hitchens fans here ???

ABack comments on Jul 3, 2019:

I agree with his arguments against religion except for he was often arrogant and vulgar.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jul 5, 2019:

@KKGator Roger dat.

Any Christopher hitchens fans here ???

ABack comments on Jul 3, 2019:

I agree with his arguments against religion except for he was often arrogant and vulgar.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jul 5, 2019:

@KKGator I can overlook or even enjoy arrogance and vulgarity as long as they are used in the service of truth and progress. However, if it is like what we hear so often from our current President (ignorant, mendacious, reactionary, bigoted, stupid) then it wears thin very quickly. It's all about context.

Is anyone else as scared as I am about global warming?

Flyingsaucesir comments on Jun 24, 2019:

I am sorry to say that your fears are well-founded. It appears that we have about ten years in which to achieve net zero greenhouse gas emissions in order to keep global temperature rise under 2 degrees Celsius. Beyond 2 degrees, feedbacks in the natural system kick in and temperatures spiral upward...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jun 24, 2019:

@seekingtruth The answer to your question is "no." I have no idea who you are. None whatsoever.

Is anyone else as scared as I am about global warming?

jadedhills comments on Jun 24, 2019:

I have good news for you, the global warming we have been seeing is due to the Sun being in an active stage, perfectly natural, it has just finished this phase and is going into what is called the "Grand Maunder Minimum", search on YouTube, it is solar cooling, check the arctic ice build up that is...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jun 24, 2019:

Bullshit.

Is anyone else as scared as I am about global warming?

jadedhills comments on Jun 24, 2019:

Climate worriers, stop, the solar cycle that has caused the global warming has ended, and now the sun is entering a cooling phase, all natural and predictable Google "Maunder Minimum" you will also find CO2 increases plant growth and a greening effect can already be seen, most of the news about ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jun 24, 2019:

Mister, you obviously have NO idea what is real and what is fake. Actually, while the sun went through its MINIMUM output of energy in its 11-year cycle, the Earth experienced its HOTTEST years ever recorded. Geez, get clue!

Bob Dylan was a great songwriter. Can't stand his singing voice.

Geoffrey51 comments on Jun 15, 2019:

I can get past his voice but I can understand how it can be difficult, especially in later years. It is worth listening to his phrasing though because that can add to the lyrical effect. Unfortunately some covers of Dylan songs become pleasant on the ear and the content and depth of lyrics gets ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jun 16, 2019:

I thing the Grateful Dead version of When I Paint My Masterpiece is really worth listening to.

Bob Dylan was a great songwriter. Can't stand his singing voice.

Sierra4 comments on Jun 15, 2019:

I agree to some extent. I have liked most of his music. I really like Lay Lady Lay. Music and vocals.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Jun 16, 2019:

Nashvile Skyline is a great album. Lay Lady Lay is iconic, and I love the duet with Jonny Cash on Girl From The North Country.

Hi I'm thinking of get a tattoo.

indirect76 comments on Apr 26, 2019:

To be frank, the idea of wanting to get a tattoo while not knowing what the tattoo will be does not make any sense to me. Asking others what should be on your body permanently makes even less sense.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Apr 27, 2019:

It could be a rather sly way of carrying out a survey, to see what people are into.

Let me get this straight: Trump is going to rebut a report that he said totally exonerates him.

AlbertSchepis comments on Apr 18, 2019:

I know, right? He's such an idiot I almost feel sorry for him. He'll have to get in line though, after every single other person on the planet, then I'll feel sorry for him.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Apr 18, 2019:

Ha ha, the 7.5 billionth customer!

RICHARD DAWKINS ERROR CONCERNING THE ORIGIN OF LIFE Pursuing the concept that anything is ...

Flyingsaucesir comments on Apr 7, 2019:

Anyone who has read Dawkins or knows the basics concerning biological evolution should know that he never said life evolved by random chance. Random chance is an important element in evolution, but it is not the whole shebang. Random mutations of DNA provide the raw material, grist for the mill, if ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Apr 8, 2019:

@LloydBrumbaugh While many of the details of life's origins remain shrouded in mystery, science has managed to uncover enough facts to provide a very compelling sketch of how life probably evolved on Earth. These include (but are not limited to) the spontaneous assembly of nucleotides (the building blocks of DNA and RNA) and amino acids (the building blocks of proteins) from very simple organic molecules that were present on early Earth. Prototypes for cells likewise are known to spontaneously form in certain environments. It is very probable that even in the earliest stages of their formation, even before they fit our present definition of "living," cells were undergoing a process of natural selection. There is no reason to discount that possibility. Indeed, we see selective processes at work in all kinds of systems. Below the level of organisms.

Rick Scott, the very man who created HCA and defrauded Medicare for over a billion dollars.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Apr 2, 2019:

The President wants to repeal the Affordable Care Act merely because its chief sponsor was (is) a black man. Trump's racism is so pronounced that he is willing to kick millions of Americans off their health insurance just to destroy his predecessor's legacy. And this is not even his most egregious ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Apr 6, 2019:

@Piratefish Fact: Trump has gone out of his way to erase every trace of his predecessor. Fact: Trump IS a racist (witness his redlining black folks out of his properties, his statements supporting white supremacists ["some very fine people"], his denigration of "shit-hole" African countries). It is also true that he his pandering to his base, and it's also true that at least some in that base are white supremacists. It's also true that "the base" has swallowed, hook, line, and sinker, the neoliberal ideology that free markets can solve all problems and all government regulations are bad. This poppycock has been promulgated largely by think tanks and politicians funded by corporate interests. The corporations are the tail wagging this dog, and they are concerned with profit, not race. So no, race is not the prime mover; corporate money is. Race is a distraction; a red herring, if you will. But it is also a very real element in the mentality of Trump and his base.

Islam is not a religion, rather a death cult for apostates.

zesty comments on Apr 1, 2019:

I'm just wondering if the UK is a safe place for an ex muslim due to the strict gun control laws. This way only the criminals and fanatics are armed. In the US, at least, you could arm and protect yourself.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Apr 1, 2019:

@Charlene Zesty is either off her rocker or she is an alt-right troll.

Islam is not a religion, rather a death cult for apostates.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Apr 1, 2019:

We have all heard of such things happening in other religions. Why should Islam be any different? Once people go down the path of superstition they can become convinced of the rightness of even the most heinous acts.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Apr 1, 2019:

@Gooniesnvrdie Thanks brother. I was just looking at her profile and she claims to be a college professor. Yet she made a rather basic grammatical error in the above thread. I don't think (s)he is who (s)he claims to be.

Islam is not a religion, rather a death cult for apostates.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Apr 1, 2019:

We have all heard of such things happening in other religions. Why should Islam be any different? Once people go down the path of superstition they can become convinced of the rightness of even the most heinous acts.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Apr 1, 2019:

@zesty Oh boy, are you ever out of touch!

Islam is not a religion, rather a death cult for apostates.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Apr 1, 2019:

We have all heard of such things happening in other religions. Why should Islam be any different? Once people go down the path of superstition they can become convinced of the rightness of even the most heinous acts.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Apr 1, 2019:

@zesty Ha! What's so civilized about the 21st century? We are staring down the barrel of civilization-ending climate change and doing very little to stop it. I call that damned uncivilized.

I cannot comprehend the amount of bigotry and intolerance I see among my fellow atheists sometimes.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Mar 30, 2019:

I don't disagree with anything you said, but what was it specifically that set you off? That kind of diatribe cries out for citation of particular incident(s), especially since the behavior to which you refer is, on the whole, anomalous. Free thinkers tend to be rather even-handed, logical, and ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 30, 2019:

@LadyAlyxandrea There are also trolls that infiltrate our ranks to stir up trouble. Don't underestimate them. They are implacable and well-funded.

I cannot comprehend the amount of bigotry and intolerance I see among my fellow atheists sometimes.

Flyingsaucesir comments on Mar 30, 2019:

I don't disagree with anything you said, but what was it specifically that set you off? That kind of diatribe cries out for citation of particular incident(s), especially since the behavior to which you refer is, on the whole, anomalous. Free thinkers tend to be rather even-handed, logical, and ...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 30, 2019:

@LadyAlyxandrea What I am seeing is a general lack of civility that cuts across all demographics. I think that even people who despise Trump are unconsciously taking cues from him.

This is to inform as many members of Agnostic that if points are mysteriously removed from your ...

jerry99 comments on Mar 27, 2019:

If that's your biggest problem in this world, then you're one very lucky SOB.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 28, 2019:

@steve148 True, I don't know the motivations of the host of this site, but I do know pathetic whining when I hear it.

What will cause the apocalypse?

Flyingsaucesir comments on Mar 28, 2019:

Climate change will bring on the rest.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 28, 2019:

@dahermit A bleak prospect.

This is to inform as many members of Agnostic that if points are mysteriously removed from your ...

jerry99 comments on Mar 27, 2019:

If that's your biggest problem in this world, then you're one very lucky SOB.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 28, 2019:

@steve148 If you have to talk like that to someone who has engaged you in a civil manner then A) you have a lot of growing up to do, and B) we will not miss you when you are gone.

when i look at all the ppl here who believe every word from the global warming, now climate change, ...

powder comments on Mar 24, 2019:

Same as the "USA USA" chanters. Deforestation+pesticides+ herbicides+ waste+ plastic= trouble Agree CO2 gets a bad wrap, but add all the shit we have done to this Earth, we can't continue like we are.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 24, 2019:

@powder Of the things we do that generate the CO2 are the root of the problem. ?

when i look at all the ppl here who believe every word from the global warming, now climate change, ...

Moravian comments on Mar 24, 2019:

If you can't differentiate between science and religion you have a problem.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 24, 2019:

@Moravian ...of politicians who are bought off by the fossil fuel industry...

when i look at all the ppl here who believe every word from the global warming, now climate change, ...

1of5 comments on Mar 23, 2019:

I know, it's only like 95% + climate scientist agree, and most of those who don't are funded by fossil fuel interests. We're such idiots. Btw, I feel exately the same way about climate deniers, so we have something in common! Besties for life?

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 24, 2019:

@JOHNGALT Dude, the women on this site are intelligent, educated, free-thinking individuals. You better up your game if you want to get any action here.

when i look at all the ppl here who believe every word from the global warming, now climate change, ...

flithyMONKEYmen comments on Mar 23, 2019:

Here’s some help distinguishing: zero evidence for the beliefs of religious “nut jobs,” mountains of evidence for global, human-influenced climate change. I’m sorry that you so badly don’t want it to be true— but that doesn’t change whether or not it’s true.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 24, 2019:

@darthfaja Our current POTUS is a science denier, and his Administration has tried to squelch the voices of government scientists, with limited success. But the scientists have continued to speak the truth about climate change.

when i look at all the ppl here who believe every word from the global warming, now climate change, ...

Kafirah comments on Mar 24, 2019:

every year hotter globally than the last for the past two decades... all the proof I need.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 24, 2019:

@callmedubious There is much to be said for healthy skepticism, but you are getting your information from the wrong sources.

when i look at all the ppl here who believe every word from the global warming, now climate change, ...

callmedubious comments on Mar 24, 2019:

no doubt the converted will totally disregard this. https://principia-scientific.org/drop-sunspot-activity-warning-global-cooling/ Drop In Sunspot Activity A Warning Of Global Cooling Published on January 4, 2017

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 24, 2019:

The sun's energy output varies on an eleven year cycle, and the anthropomorphic climate change signal is so strong already that the sun's variation is merely background noise. The Earth experienced its hottest years on record while the sun was in its cool phase.

when i look at all the ppl here who believe every word from the global warming, now climate change, ...

Moravian comments on Mar 24, 2019:

If you can't differentiate between science and religion you have a problem.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 24, 2019:

@JOHNGALT There are atheists of all political stripes. But climate change should not be a politicized.

when i look at all the ppl here who believe every word from the global warming, now climate change, ...

webbew1 comments on Mar 24, 2019:

Well.... when it comes to climate change, if given the choice between trusting an overwhelming percentage of climatologists who have done the actual research or trusting a few politicians and corporations who might lose a few bucks if they actually have to do the right thing, I’ll go with what the...

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 24, 2019:

@JOHNGALT Science should stand apart from politic and simply supply us with facts. This is what it has been doing. Unfortunately, the fossil fuel industry has been prosecuting a disinformation campaign in order to keep their profits rolling in. They know very well what the stakes are but they are perfectly willing to wreck the Earth for their short-term gains. It is truly monstrous what industry is doing. It's very much like what the tobacco companies did in denying the link between smoking and cancer, but on a much, much bigger scale. This time we are sending millions of species, including our own, to oblivion.

when i look at all the ppl here who believe every word from the global warming, now climate change, ...

powder comments on Mar 24, 2019:

Same as the "USA USA" chanters. Deforestation+pesticides+ herbicides+ waste+ plastic= trouble Agree CO2 gets a bad wrap, but add all the shit we have done to this Earth, we can't continue like we are.

Flyingsaucesir replies on Mar 24, 2019:

I agree with most of what you said with one exception: CO2 is not getting a bad rap. Carbon dioxide from burning fossil fuels IS the proximal cause of global warming. It's also the cause of ocean acidification.