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I am not interested in a relationship and am here mainly for the forums. I do not engage in endless message conversations.

I cannot abide Trumpers or anti-vaxxers.

I lived on the north coast of California for 40 years. In those four decades, I rarely lived out of hearing range of the ocean. I could not see it, but I could hear it. On calm days, it was a subtle undertone; if you have ever held a seashell to your ear, you know what I mean. On days of extreme wind, it was a booming roar, assertive and powerful. Sometimes, the wind was not even local, but it still pushed waves from far out at sea, huge waves, big enough to lift tree trunks and throw them to the beach.

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Yesterday i had a transesophageal echocardiogram (TEE).
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Mar 6, 2020:
Maybe it was the delivery. Doctors always laugh at my jokes. In fact, I remember decades ago when I switched gynecologists and went to one who was my friend's doctor. She warned me that he did NOT have a sense of humor. The first time he did a pap smear, he explained the procedure. I said, "I know the routine. I have had many pap smears." He said, "Well, I am sure that it doesn't get better with time." I replied, "I'm sure that it doesn't get any better at your end, either." He laughed out loud.
Can a slovenly hoarder change his habits?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Mar 5, 2020:
This guy ain't gonna change--and his dating efforts are doomed.
I have to be honest.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Mar 5, 2020:
When I started practicing paganism, I still feared hell, too. It made me realize that I had not stayed in Christianity out of a love for Jesus, but out of fear. I got over it.
Some Atheists can be just as self righteous and judgmental as Christians/religious people.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Mar 4, 2020:
No argument here.
I just saw this on a meme: Imagine if you will: An atheist in their car at a green light, stuck ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Mar 4, 2020:
One could stick out one's head out the window and yell.
Brothers and sisters, where has gone your faith?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Mar 4, 2020:
I suppose the issue is not knowing god's will--he MIGHT protect the holy water and he MIGHT not. Why take chances?
I think this country would be better off with an Atheist in the White House.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Mar 3, 2020:
Humans are humans and having an atheist in the WH might better enforce separation of church and state. However, it does not mean that people would be treated better by laws, etc. As someone else posted, the idiot who is in the WH right now is most likely an atheist and the results are horrendous. Some atheists are racist, sexist, and intolerant in general. Also, even it atheists were perfect, Congress would need to be atheists, too.
What do you suppose gives rise to and supports belief in God?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Mar 2, 2020:
Until a time machine is built, we will not know how religion began. One of the most plausible theories I have read is that early humans anthropomorphized nature and everything had a soul--I will get to the soul part in a minute. These early beliefs are termed "animism." From there, it is a rather simple step to believe that animals, the weather, volcanoes, et al, needed to be propitiated to keep them from harming humans. Early religions, i.e. Egypt, had loads of anthropomorphic deities which reflect this idea. Where the aspect of the "soul" comes in is harder to trace. If a person had an NDE and "came back," did that create the idea that "something" existed beyond the body dying? I also think that dreams come into play; there can be no doubt that humans have always dreamed. If Og died and then "came back" in a dream, was he living someplace else? Someday, I will write a paper on this.
Here’s a Picture of Mike Pence’s Team Attempting to Pray Away Coronavirus | Hemant Mehta | ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Mar 2, 2020:
I thought that this was a joke! However, I should not be surprised.
It sometimes feels that we seldom stray far from the topic of religion on this site, so I have a ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 27, 2020:
Do pagan texts qualify? If so, the Egyptian texts, the Enuma Elish and poetry of Sumeria (i.e. The Descent of Inanna), and Hesiod are quite interesting. Likewise, though I am not well versed in them, the Indian Vedas and the Mayan Popol Vuh,
Do you think your lack of God affects how you feel about the insults of aging?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 26, 2020:
No, being atheist does not affect how I view aging. I turned 67 last year and honestly, this is the best period of my life. I loved raising my kids, but my marriage was a void. I weighed 250 pounds when I was 43, lost 100 pounds, and this is one of the best things I did for my health. At 45, I left the marriage and moved to Missouri. I lived with a younger man for seven years and the relationship turned abusive. The end of that relationship 14 years ago started the "best period." I am in very good health according to my doctor and according to how I feel. I may be closer to death than I was when I was 43 and though I cannot walk a mile in 15 minutes as I did when I was 45, I can mow a third of an acre with a pushmower and can load my pick-up full of rocks. I also wonder "how did I get here?" I look in the mirror and see a woman who looks nothing like I expected her to look 20 years ago. I actually marvel that I will be 70 in less than three years and have managed to be this happy and this healthy. Yup, it could change--I could get hit by a truck or get cancer. And aging will finally take its toll. I won't be healthy forever and I will not live forever, but I have no desire to moan or worry about it. I make plans for that day and will accept the inevitable. I sometimes wake up and think, "Gee, I am going to die someday." Then, I say, "But probably not today"--and watch out for trucks. Without death, there would be no new life. If we lived forever, there would be no children and no grandchildren. Considering that I would give my life for them, no regrets. Aging it not an insult; it is the natural order of "things." And I don't listen to stupid people, or at least not after one incidence listening to them.
Faith Healing Kills: Conservative Christian parents in Michigan who refused to get their dying ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 26, 2020:
The line is drawn when it become abuse and endangers lives.
I love how most people who believe the bible can trace their belief to the notion that the bible ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 25, 2020:
Christian "magic" is god working for humans. Miracles are performed by god. Prayer is religious magic and is the same as performing pagan rituals: calling upon a deity to achieve a desired result. Of course, magic is forbidden by Judaism and Xtianity. Many/most Xtians would claim that magic is make-believe, but prayer and miracles are real. Ancient Xtians would disagree--but Satan was the mover behind "magic."
It is both amusing and jarring to see adults in online discussions threatening each other with ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 24, 2020:
Agreed.
I have a beautiful, tender-hearted young Christian relative who is working her way through college ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 22, 2020:
My note would say, "Hey, wretch, I am a witch and whoever steals this wallet will be visited by ancient and modern plagues. I will also press charges if you are discovered. By the way, my credit cards are maxxed out."
Just a thought I had from one that I dearly call 'friend'.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 22, 2020:
Yes. In one of these forums, I was called a conservative Christian troll here trying to convert atheists. One reason was because I know the Bible very well and another is because I unilaterally refuse to condemn all religious people. I often use my sister as an example of a Christian who truly does not condemn others, does not try to force her beliefs on anyone, and says that if god exists (but is quick to state she believes in a god), everyone has "it" wrong and no one knows who/what god is.
Its time to round up all the Trump supporters and ship them off Moscow so the can vote in the 2020 ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 21, 2020:
I'm with you.
BIG wobbles in Salt Lake as member ship levels fall so low, the big three have decided to make huge ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 21, 2020:
Well. Well, well, well. Interesting. Methinks that they are only becoming "progressive" because they are shrinking.
Last night's debate was the closest I've seen to a political version of a WWE Smackdown.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 20, 2020:
Thanks!
I see this here all the time.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 18, 2020:
I agree. I have had a couple of men tell me that because I know the Bible so well and refuse to blanketly condemn all Christians, I am a conservative Christian troll here to infiltrate and try to convert. Right.
So unlike my parents, whom I love, lol I am letting my son decide what to believe or not to believe.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 16, 2020:
If he believes in a god, then someone told him about god. My son is an atheist and he refuses to let my daughter-in-law's relatives indoctrinate their children. Their son is six and last year before Xmas, he said, quite seriously and in a low voice, "Grandma, in case you didn't know, Santa Claus isn't real." I am glad that he broke it to me gently.
In making this post, I am not being highly critical, but merely making an observation.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 16, 2020:
Religion might be baseless, but considering that it has ruled the world for millennia hardly makes it irrelevant. I have both an academic and personal interest in religion and myth. I do not discuss either because I suffer from poor mental health and do not suffer from a lack of productivity. I had a blah marriage and a horrid longterm relationship was was abusive (toward me) both physically and mentally. I do not dwell on those years. Discussing religion does not damage my life in any manner. It is one part of my life, and not even a large part. By the way, do not assume that your personal experiences apply to others. Assuming that people who discuss religion have issues of mental health and a lack of productivity is a large and general judgment. While religion might rule the lives of some atheists/agnostics, for others, it is fodder for discussion--not an all consuming passion that occupies the entire day and night.
How many of you have lied or decieved a potential employer about your being agnostic or atheist.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 13, 2020:
Never--no need to. No employer has ever asked.
Being intelligent , unfortunately , does not mean a person is moral .
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 13, 2020:
Your opinion is judgmental and offers no facts or studies to support it. Are these observations based on your personal experiences and what you read online? From my experience, I have known and met many people who low or normal intelligence who are trying to save nothing but their asses and are doing a poor job. In fact, the basket of deplorables who support Trump do not appear to be very intelligent and they are buying into his denial of climate change.
I'm not sure into which category to post this speculation, so I eventually plumped for "general" ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 12, 2020:
Myth is sometimes based on historical happenings. For example, one explanation for the Mid-Eastern flood myth could be a rise in sea levels after the end of the last glacial maximum or the Black Sea deluge theory. These myths can also be based on large local floods. The war between the Titans and the Olympians is most likely based on Aryan invasions into Pelasgia/Greece; the gods of the invaders came to be the Olympians and the Titans were the gods of the Pelasgians. Even the myth of the centaurs very likely arose from the first exposure of the Pelasgians to the horse riding Aryans; the former did not ride horses and the sight of people on horseback "looked" like a creature part human/horse. If Sodom and Gomorrah existed, their myth does not indicate that they were brought down by a serious and widespread viral infection. If they had, the myth would have reported that god smote them with deadly plagues that caused the people to die. If the cities existed and the myth has any "truth" in it, the cities would have fallen due to a natural disaster as others have postulated; this fits the physical destruction of the cities. Hence, my earlier answer: No.
I'm not sure into which category to post this speculation, so I eventually plumped for "general" ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 12, 2020:
No.
I am a member that left for several months.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 12, 2020:
The "melting pot" is a myth. The term is a poor analogy because even in the US (where the term has been used for generations) people of different ethnicities did not merge. The Italians lived on one area of town, the blacks lived in another, the Chinese yet another, and the Irish in yet another. Even in neighborhoods where different ethnicities lived, they did not tend to "mix." Religion and places of worship were striated and the Protestants didn't attend Catholic churches and neither sects went to synagogue and mosques. The South has a different culture from the North and so on. You write, "I want healthy debate, and conversation with people from my own generation. I want healthy debate, and conversation, with people that look like my friends and neighbors." Yeah, well, seek out your generation where you can find it/them--so much for mixing with the old folks. Despite your explanations, it doesn't sound like you truly want the different perspectives that old farts have to offer. If the site has fewer people your age and fewer ethnicities, it is not because they are not encouraged. Perhaps you should seek a site where you can get the input you need.
Is TV getting preachy again.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
I don't have a TV and I am selective about what I watch on Netflix.
I started to study Philosophy as I wanted to see if there was any answer to ‘What is the meaning ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
The meaning of life is not found in philosophical contemplation: it is found in biology. The meaning/purpose of life is to procreate and perpetuate the species. After procreating, it is to stay alive long enough to make sure that the offspring grow up and are able to procreate. Everything else is fluff.
What happened when you came out of the closet as an atheist?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 11, 2020:
Nothing--truly, nothing at all (not that I was in a closet). And I didn't "announce" it--it was expressed in casual conversations.
Not having been on a real date in a very long time, I was thinking of inviting someone.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 10, 2020:
Sadie Hawkins Day--but was that on Leap Day?
Dating scammers on Agnostic.com?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 10, 2020:
I find the scammers amusing at times but mostly, I just say, "Piss off, scammer." Sometimes, they act offended and reply but usually, I don't hear from them again.
Punctuation is a thing! Just sayin'.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 8, 2020:
And the Oxford comma rules.
Punctuation is a thing! Just sayin'.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 8, 2020:
If only my students could internalize this.
In this world we are hearing of the evil of terrorism.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 3, 2020:
Tribalism begets terrorism. Agreed.
Wondering if anyone else accepts the Absurd (pursuing meaning in a meaningless world)?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 3, 2020:
I stopped waiting for Godot.
I can't say I'm very shocked by these comments, but it does make me wonder how these people could ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 2, 2020:
As horrible as this is, I would almost guarantee that there are hardcore, hateful atheists that would advocate for the extermination of fundie Xtians.
My daughter just informed me that my step-son who lives in another state has passed.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 1, 2020:
If someone wants/need to disguise death with religion, it is no skin off my derriere. As my Baptist sister says, believing gives her comfort. She lost a husband to cancer, one baby died at birth, she nearly died due to a miscarriage, then got Hepatitis from blood transfusions after the miscarriage and nearly died again, has fought breast cancer (which metastasized in her bones the second time--she has been in remission for six years) twice, and found out that her 75 year old second husband was cheating on her with meth whores. If the thought of god is comforting to her, I will not tell her different. And yes, she knows that I am an atheist. Regardless of her beliefs, she is one of the strongest people whom I know, and has withstood personal tragedies that would have broken some people. If faith helped her do so, so be it. What is skin off my derriere is when evangelical Xtians want to make Christianity a state religion and used to restrict the rights of others.
Could I be considered an atheist or a deist?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Feb 1, 2020:
Deist. I am a pagan atheist.
Coronavirus is a punishment from God: Conservative Christian TV Host Rick Wiles claims that the ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 31, 2020:
Hey, maybe he's right! It's a punishment for crooked Christians. Does he think that he will be spared? I think he should prove his faith and go to China to help the ill.
Kobe Bryant said, "God is great.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 31, 2020:
You are a mean, distasteful and, apparently, bitter person. Kobe isn't thinking anything right now.
One of the thoughts that has occurred to me, when considering biotechnology, is that if humans can ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 31, 2020:
What future? We will be extinct or shoved back into the Middle Ages before this can happen. And if it did, it would be only for the rich.
Finished a vest and all I see are flaws. Do you ever feel like this?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 30, 2020:
Yes--not only in my quilting and knitting, but other areas, as well.
Why is it not believable that humans ended up on earth either due to aliens or because of aliens?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 29, 2020:
Why is it not believable that humans shared a common culture before disseminating into the world? Why is Jung's theory of archetypes less believable than that of aliens? What proof is there that the images are of spacecraft or aliens? There are pictures of anthropomorphic bulls on cave walls, but that does not mean that they existed. You seem to suggest that aliens are the only explanation when, indeed, there are others that are more logical and plausible. Personally, I like Jung's theory of how archetypes arose and spread, but it cannot be proven. The dispersion theory is more likely.
I might have fucked up on Facebook, ya’ll.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 29, 2020:
I never felt oppressed when I was a practicing Christian, but some of my Xtian friends did. One was the librarian at the very small school our children attended. The teachers were not fond of her because she was pushy and hard to work with. She told me that she was being made into a martyr and could think of no other reason than because she was Xtian. Hmm . . . I was an Xtian at that point, too, and a teacher's aide: the teachers liked me. I felt slightly oppressed as a pagan as by that time, I was a substitute teacher. A boy in a 8th grade class told me that his mother was a "witch" during class, and I said, "So am I." I was not allowed to sub at the school any longer for making that admission. It was feared that because I was so popular with the students, I might adversely affect them. Not so ironically, when I was in the church, students actually asked me if I were Xtian and I would reply in the affirmative. No one ever complained about that. A student at the local community college where I teach tried to oppress me. He thought I was still pagan and complained to my department chair that I tried to push my "spirituality" on the class the first day of class. The chair sent an email to me saying he was not one to "judge" a person's beliefs, but that I should not share them in class. I wrote back saying that was gracious of him (total sarcasm) but if he were not going to judge me, he would have to not judge me based on the fact that I was an atheist. He apologized. The student said some other things, as well, and was gunning to get me fired. I am still teaching there, but this is one incident that made me decide to go all online. I have known other pagans who claimed to be oppressed, but nah, it had more to do with "presentation" and attitude than anything else, i.e. I never received the biased treatment one claimed to have experienced in a store where I often shopped. I have not personally been oppressed--or had attempts to oppress me--as an atheist.
Great cartoon. The National Repugnant Party. Would this make a great sign for protests?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 29, 2020:
Sigh.
Any particular reason why people say "you scared the hell out of me?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 28, 2020:
Being an English teacher, I immediately Googled "origins of scaring the hell out of me" and could find no origin or the first use of the phrase. Frustrating. I do not find the phrase "I couldn't care less" as being odd, but it drives me crazy when people say "I could care less." If they could care less, it means that they still care; not being able to care less means that they do not care any longer. I am still pissed at the journalism student teacher over this phrase.
Why don't people control vicious dogs? Yesterday's Rottweiler attack.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 26, 2020:
I am truly sorry that this has happened to you! I was walking in a park in Cali once and a man with his family had let his large dog run free. The dog was NOT friendly. I told him that park regulations were clear about keeping dogs on leashes. He ridiculed me! I reported him on my way out, but I doubt that he was still there when the rangers went to investigate. People like this are the worst.
Discrimination and human rights.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 26, 2020:
I agree that religion is used to denigrate and keep women in their "place," but it is a common practice that extends far beyond Abrahamic religions, i.e. Greek religion put women in subordinate positions. The issue, though, is not the religion(s) in and of themselves: religion was used by men who were already misogynistic and who already considered women inferior. It is long past time to give women sovereignty over their bodies and their lives, but the issue is deeper than religion alone. Cultural/societal ideas about women are ingrained in men and women who are not even religious. By the same token, so are ideas about men.
Do any women ever read these posts and say omg I have to say hi to this guy ha! 0.2% replies
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 25, 2020:
No.
Thoughts on extraterrestrial life?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 23, 2020:
Extraterrestrial life must exist, but I have serious, serious doubts about any of them visiting Earth. The sheer distance alone is a huge problem. You saw a "UFO," though: an unidentified flying object. That does not mean that it was extraterrestrial in origin. It just means that you saw something that you could not identify. Occam's Razor: the simplest explanation is usually the correct explanation. There are other, more logical and reasonable explanations--even if you are not cognizant of them. The biggest question for me is if aliens have visited us, why do they not just announce themselves? Are they following the "prime directive"? If so, being so sloppy in allowing us to see them has already violated the directive.
What is the worst experience you had with religion and how did it affect you or what was your ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 22, 2020:
The worst experience that I had with "religion" was with church leaders at a church that I had attended for about ten years. After the pastor left to become a missionary, the church became a "brethen" church--no pastor as pastors were not Biblical. There were two deacons who gave the sermons an a board of elders (or maybe vice-versa). The church had been increasingly "Biblical" for several years, including not allowing women to speak in the sanctuary. After a few months of the change, I became increasingly unhappy and uncomfortable with the new leadership and direction of the church. I wrote a letter to the board expressing my unhappiness. They met with me and my ex (who had no strong opinions about much of anything). Subsequently, I was told that I was satanically influenced, was trying to divide the church, and could not come back until I stood before the congregation, admitted my sins, and apologized. However, that was not the "bad" part as, in reality, I was ready to go. The bad part was that most of the members of the church did not know how to react to the situation. People who had been my friends for a decade didn't call and some could barely speak to me in public because they were embarrassed. At that point, I had not officially left Christianity, but within a year, I was a practicing pagan. When my former friends heard about that, I did have some amusing incidents. Still, I lost my friends and my support system. By the way, my pagan friends couldn't care less if I am an atheist now; it does not faze them at all.
When did a kind stranger touch your heart?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 22, 2020:
From people giving me directions (I am directionally impaired) to those who said out of the blue, "You look great," I cannot count or even remember the kindnesses shown to me by strangers. I consistently pass these kindnesses along and one of these instances stand out. I asked a man standing next to me in Walmart how he was doing and he almost burst into tears, telling me that he had just buried his mother. Humans are unbelievably kind and yet, unbelievable cruel. Small things can tip the scales to the to the kindness aspect.
My wife was diagnosed with liver cancer a month ago.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 22, 2020:
I am so sorry to hear of your situation. My sister has been in remission from Stage 4 breast cancer for about six years. She is religious and she and her friends do pray, but she knows that it is medical science that has kept her alive. I wish that I had some words of wisdom, but I do not. Be patient is all I can say.
I am a recent widower and signed up on a dating site.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 22, 2020:
I was recently hit up by a man on Facebook who wanted me to add him. I looked at his profile and he said he was "A Christian and a man of integrity." I told him that we had nothing in common as I was an atheist. He wrote back, "That's fine as long as we believe in the same god." I am 99.9% sure that he was a scammer whose first language is not English and not just an idiot, but who knows? I told him that I was not interested, believed in no gods, and he said that if we were FB friends, "Maybe he could inspire" me to believe. Get lost, dude.
I'm watching the start of trumps impeachment trial I'm struck by the conversation about will ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 21, 2020:
Agreed.
New haircut today. What do you think?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 20, 2020:
Looks good! I have thick hair--though not nearly as thick as it was before menopause--but I find keeping it long is easier to take care of. When it is short, I have to get a trim every month and do something with it everyday (not that it has been short since my 20s).
Today's Women's March was great!
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 19, 2020:
You go, girl!
This past summer I had a medical emergency that put me in a LOT of pain, couldn't even stand up ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 19, 2020:
Wow! For decades, the only hospital in the town where I lived in Cali was Catholic. I had my tonsils out there and the nuns were actually very kind--no mention of religion was ever made. In my other experiences in a non-religious hospital, religion was never mentioned. My Medicare is "system" is Catholic--haven't been to the hospital, but the doctor's office is quite secular.
What do you do when expected to participate in public religious ceremonies such as prayer?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 18, 2020:
I sit or stand there--not that this happens to me often as I don't participate in many public "things." In fact, I cannot remember the last time that I did.
For the life of me i don't understand how in this day and age there are still, Flat Earthers, moon ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 18, 2020:
But the earth is flat! I went into the middle of a Walmart parking lot and set down a marble: it did not roll. That must mean that the earth is flat, right?
What about believing even if you know it is not true?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 17, 2020:
Sometimes, it is not an either/or situation. My sister has been battling cancer off and on for over 20 years. For the last six years, she has been in remission from Stage 4 breast cancer that had metastasized in her bones. She sees a doctor once a month and has PET scans and other tests on a regular basis. She knows that medical science is the reason why she is in remission. However, she still gives thanks to Jesus and prays. I find it amusing that when she posts the results of her check-ups on FB, a list of comments will say, "Thank god"--until it comes to me and I say, "Thank medical science!" However, this made me think of an incident that happened when I was still in church. The pastor's sister was a missionary in New Guinea and had brought a married couple who were native converts to the US for a tour. The wife became very ill and had to go to the hospital. I do not remember what was wrong with her, but she was convinced that "evil spirits" in her coffee had made her sick. The missionary, who was a nurse, said she could not convince the woman--or the tribal members in NG--that they became sick due to viruses, etc., and not evil spirits. And yet, she and other missionaries think that indigenous peoples understand the concept of "Jesus" as Westerners do. These people saw Jesus as yet another form of "magic" and in reality, had little to no clue what Christianity was about other than it saved them . . . from most evil spirits.
My friend came over on Sunday again, the one who shows up unannounced and always prays kneeling down...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 17, 2020:
Avoid this woman--she can only affect you as she does if you allow her to do so.
How do people feel about pulling good guy (or good person) deeds as an atheist?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 17, 2020:
I "pull" good deeds as a human being. It has nothing to do with being an atheist. I find it amusing that because I am "nice," people have told me that I CAN'T be an atheist. Everyone knows that atheists are bitter and rude curmudgeons.
The structure of marriage is heavily based upon religion; in the sight of god, till death, what god ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 16, 2020:
"Legal" marriages were not based in religion: they were based in law. Marriages for the poor did not have the rigmarole associated with marriages for the upper class. People with money and people who were royal needed a contract to protect the assets. Marriages were most often not love matches, but money matches. The idea of romantic love has existed for a long time, yes, but in real life, it most often it was not a reason to marry. The concepts of marriage today are relatively modern. When people live together, it is the legalities that actually become the issue if cohabitation ends--whether it is due to a failed relationship or the death of one partner. Having said that, at 67, I have absolutely no desire to get married again. My last two boyfriends wanted to marry (or, at the least, to move in together), and the thought was horrifying to me. Marriage licenses should be like drivers licenses: they should expire after five years or so and if both parties do not wish to renew them, then no divorce is needed. Who gets what should be in the marriage contract at the onset.
Why don't Christians understand what a parable is or that it is a mystery religion?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 15, 2020:
Most Christians whom I have known understood parables. Maybe things have changed since I left church over 20 years ago. However, as Xtian parables are quite simple, I don't see them qualifying it as a "mystery" religion in the same vein as the Eleusinian Mysteries or Mithraism. I do wonder if Paul was not exposed to Mithraism--i.e. being caught up to the third heaven.
The enemy is within... they have breached the gates and they are among us.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 15, 2020:
As Pogo said, "We have met the enemy and he is us."
We have an expression in the UK which says ” Not singing from the same hymn-sheet ” when family,...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 15, 2020:
We will only sing from the same hymn page when all of us are brainwashed. That will not happen.
Hey Any one from English literature research or teaching here?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 15, 2020:
I have an MA in British lit and teach courses in literature on undergrad and grad levels. However, I teach six classes and do not truly have time to "guide" others--I will be happy to answer an occasional question, though.
The Proof: That God Exists There is a hierarchy in Animalia, not only as quantified by the DNA ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 15, 2020:
Say what?
In need for advice and/or support.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 14, 2020:
I haven't had this happen, but I tend to keep people at arm's length. That's not because I worry about they going psycho, but because I fear being bored to death. The only surprise that I have had in recent years was when a friend of mine--who also happened to be a former student--voted for Trump. That was it for me.
Agnostic wicca
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 14, 2020:
I am a pagan atheist--it is not a term or idea that I made up. Pagan atheists revere nature but do not worship it.
Do any of you think that a meaningful relationship can be acheived with a christian?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 14, 2020:
Everything is dependent on the individuals.
Why are atheist so obsessed by religion?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 14, 2020:
I am "obsessed" with religion for several reasons. One is because I am obsessed with myth and the two are intricately intertwined. Although Barry Powell says that they are separate, they are not: myth is the underpinning of religion. Another is because ancient history fascinates me and religion is intricately intertwined with culture. To study Egypt necessitates the study of their religion. Three is the concept of a belief in deity (not religion) and how/why/when it arose is fascinating. Four, our lives and cultures are saturated with religion. Five, my life has been saturated with religion. In an ongoing attempt to understand people, cultures, and myself, it is necessary to examine what parts religion has influenced us since before recorded time. The unexamined life (and history) is not worth living.
So much for those who claimed Judaism was the least mysogynistic religion. [bbc.com]
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 13, 2020:
Despite the stereotype of the strong matriarch, Judaism has long been misogynistic.
Why atheist get it wrong when addressing apologetics.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 13, 2020:
Christian apologetics tend to think that everyone who disagrees with them are ignorant and misguided (and probably stupid). It has been my experience that their explanations are attempts to explain the workings of god in a way that the simple minded can understand. They most likely see themselves as opening a pathway for nonbelievers. Once the nonbeliever opens his/her heart to god, then god can speak to them directly. Remember, atheists cannot "hear" god.
What is the craziest/weirdest religion or cult that you have come across?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 13, 2020:
I think that the Mormons' beliefs are about as nutty as they come.
Why There Are So Many Incompetent Male Leaders
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
By the way, Trump is NOT charismatic.
It's sometimes strange to look back on one's self in the past, particularly the distant past.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Do you have a minute?
Why There Are So Many Incompetent Male Leaders
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
The reason why there are more male leaders than female leaders is because patriarchal societies are not known to be female friendly. Women have been classified as not being as capable as men and the idea continues. We have incompetent leaders today because there are many incompetent people, and they seem to want someone like them to rule them. Maybe it bolsters their self worth. There is a growing anti-intellectual trend that devalues intelligence and education.
Religion was not created to control anyone or groups of people.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Do not equate religion with a belief in god. People could have believed in deities long before "religion" came about. Religion indicates a codified set of beliefs but it is not possible to know when beliefs, rituals, etc. began. The earliest recorded beliefs/religion would be those of Egypt and Sumeria, and by the time these cultures had invented writing, the religions were used to control people. Preliterate cultures who continued into modern times often had beliefs that were intended to control behavior, though. But I agree--the belief in a deity and codifying the tenets of a religion were not originally control measures. I would wager that they soon became such.
This doesn't have anything to do with being agnostic.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 11, 2020:
When I was 45, I left a 25 year marriage to moved from CA to MO to be with someone whom I met online. I had needed to leave the marriage for a long time as was in a comfortable but stagnating rut and I was slowly dying on the inside. However, I needed an excuse/reason to go. I left behind everything I had, including my teenage sons (they later came to MO--one is now back in CA and is homeless; the other is doing well and lives minutes away from me). The relationship turned out horribly. I worked at Walmart for two years and that experience convinced me to to return to school to get an MA (I already had a BA and a teaching credential). It is impossible to tell what would have happened had I stayed in CA, but despite some truly horrendous times in the last 21 years, I have no regrets. I am better off financially and emotionally than I have ever been in my life. A friend of mine once said that we do not make BIG changes in our lives until the prospect of staying where we are is more frightening than the prospect of changes. I gambled and eventually, I won. If you make the move, do not expect everything to be perfect or even remotely easy. Ask yourself what it is that you want in life and what you expect the move to accomplish. If you cannot get those things where you are . . . go.
What if there was never religion in the world?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 9, 2020:
Religion didn't hold humans back: humans held humans back. While religion was the vehicle used to suppress knowledge, science, literature, it was the men (yes, men) who ran the religions who did the suppression. It was and is about power and money, and the love of power and wealth (whether cows, gold, paper currency) is an inherent human trait. We evolved by fighting; we need to outgrow the issues that revolve around the need and desire for power and wealth. Some atheists look at atheism as a panacea for the ills of humanity, but until humans stop being human, the ills will continue--and will do so even if religion becomes "extinct."
Martin Luther's formula for ignorance .
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 9, 2020:
And?
My atheist family was appalled when I converted to Catholicism – but it’s given me great peace |...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 8, 2020:
My mother was Baptist. She would get mad at church members, though, so my Sunday School experience was spotty. One of my best childhood friends was raised by parents who, while not atheist, were not religious. From what my friend said later in life, they were scornful of religion and god overall. However, she says that she ALWAYS knew that god loved her and had a plan for her life. She was first apostolic and then, Catholic (her husband was raised Catholic). Go figure.
Hi.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 8, 2020:
I am sorry that you feel that you need to maintain a subterfuge, but no, I would not pretend to believe in a god in order to keep friends or family.
Thanks to Agnostic.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 8, 2020:
Congrats!
Okay here's an easy one, what is the ONE best invention EVER and why.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 7, 2020:
Writing. Everything else pales in comparison. Yeah, toilets, running water, and sewer systems are great, but without writing, humans would never have made it to the moon or invented computers. We also would not have the works of Shakespeare, Sappho, Enheduanna, or The Epic of Gilgamesh. We would not have the Magna Carta or The US Constitution.
How unwise to be a Christian.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 6, 2020:
The Romans called the Jews "atheists" because they did not believe in the Roman deities. In Heinlein's novel, Job, the world came to an end and people went to whichever afterlife they believed in. Not sure where that leaves us atheists.
What computerized machinery have you struggled with?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 5, 2020:
That's why I will not be getting a fancy sewing machine. I haven't had any issues with any of my own computerized machines, but my sister's car sometimes makes me feel inadequate. My car is is a 2004 and it doesn't have all that "stuff." When she comes to visit, she likes to take her car because it is bigger than mine and she wants me to drive because I know the area.
Alex Jones And The Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Year
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 5, 2020:
It couldn't have happened to a more deserving person, but a lot more deserve the same things happening to them.
I agree too much religion shit around here. : : : Is there not life without the all mighty?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 5, 2020:
Ya know, if people--me included--want to talk about religion, that IS our prerogative, isn't it? Why should that bother anyone? If someone doesn't want to discuss religion, then don't. It is a simple equation. There are lots of things that people discuss that are of no interest to me. So be it: I would not tell them to stop or that they yammer on about those issues too often and too much.
Would u marry a theist?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 5, 2020:
It depends.
The Argumentative Theory
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 5, 2020:
Reasoned arguments must be supported by facts from experts. When my composition students write a persuasive essay, they can "reason" their way to an argument, but without support from credible people in the field, their reason and their arguments are moot. Most, if not all, arguments are made to "justify [ . . .] beliefs or [. . .] actions." The scientist sets out to prove a theory; a religious person sets out to prove The Bible is factual; the literature essayist seeks to prove a theory about a work. Most have biases, but the biases must be supported, again, by experts. The scientist might or might not prove his/her theory based on the evidence at hand; the Biblical scholar will not be able to prove his/her claims because the evidence/proof is not there. One of the issues is being able to distinguish between "truth" and fact/empirical evidence. The religious person has personal truths that are not facts. Science has a different approach. Also, logical fallacies must be recognized, i.e. I have heard religious people say that so many people believe in a god, one must exist. Nope, that is faulty reasoning.
Many do not know that The Lord's Prayer reveals the true name of god.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 4, 2020:
I thought his first name was Stan. In fact, this is how Satan came to be--someone misspelled god's first name.
"If I were not an atheist, I would believe in a God who would choose to save people on the basis of ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 4, 2020:
If I believed in a deity, it would be one that didn't care one way or the other about humans.
If you believe animals aren't intelligent and cope within their space in an intelligent fashion, ...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 4, 2020:
Other animals show the same type of gratitude that this kangaroo shows. They show love and sympathy, as well. On the other hand, I see "intelligent" humans who lack sympathy and empathy. I see stupid ones who lack these qualities, too. (Not mentioning any names but one has orange hair and a Cheeto colored face.)
How do you stop swearing?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 3, 2020:
I have no plans to stop swearing. I am just careful about not swearing in circumstances where it is not acceptable.
“I’m not perfect, I’m just forgiven” is the most enabling statement ever made! Christians...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Jan 2, 2020:
Of all the things that Xtians say, this is one that is the most annoying to me. I once had a couple of dates with an Xtian who wanted to enter into a more serious relationship. I asked him about the issue of having sex outside of marriage; he not only gave me this explanation, but added that all he had to do was ask for forgiveness. No, thanks. I told him that I would not be his "guilty pleasure" on Saturday night so he could get up and go to church to ask for forgiveness on Sunday morning. Also, I told him that Xtians who willingly sin crucify Christ again. My ex brother-in-law claimed that homosexuality is a sin. I pointed out to him that any type of illicit sex, including adultery, is also a sin. He insisted that he was forgiven and anything he did would be forgiven. I showed him the verse in The Christian Scriptures that said adulterers would not enter the kingdom of heaven. He was a bit surprised. Several years later, my sister discovered that he had been consorting with meth whores and there was no doubt that he had been having affairs all during their 20 year marriage. When he was in his mid-seventies, grossly obese, and ugly as hell, the meth whores were all he could attract ($$). My sister divorced him when she had the evidence. His "faith" gave him reassurance that he would go to heaven, but IF there is a Jesus/Yahweh, he ain't gonna make it.
Prayer Doesn't Heal People—At Least I Hope Not
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Dec 31, 2019:
I read a short story in community college in the 1970s. In it, a man meets "Chris Christ" who said that he healed the mentally ill (psychosomatics) of his day. I dunno about documented cases being spontaneously healed, but I used to know a pagan who claimed that a pagan deity healed her. It seems that which god to whom one prays is not the point.

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