Incest: Immoral or Moral?

JeffMesser comments on Jun 1, 2018:

it's just a cultural issue. just like not boning 15yo's is a cultural thing.

Can you name the next president?

JeffMesser comments on Jun 1, 2018:

here's one that always gets them ... "I am so smart I can tell you who will be the president even before the next election happens!" "oh really? who?" "Trump will be the president before the next election. duh."

A big contingent of my wife's bible thumping family is coming to our house for the weekend.

JeffMesser comments on Jun 1, 2018:

yes because the world will end if you say a prayer. it's not us vs. them.

As a parent, What SHOULD BE your Number One Priority?

JeffMesser comments on Jun 1, 2018:

Keepin' my little girl off the pole.

Hey out of curiosity to you level 7 types...what are the perks for that level?

JeffMesser comments on Jun 1, 2018:

They sent over a nifty little Thai maid who will turn up and down the sheets.

Too Much Information

JeffMesser comments on Jun 1, 2018:

I just figure they really needed to share that and I am glad to have been able to help them. we all have our own crosses to bear.

As a non-believer, how do you respond when someone says, "I'll pray for you"?

JeffMesser comments on Jun 1, 2018:

meh. they pray for themselves, not me. It's to make THEM feel better. I just leave them to it.

Does a dog have a consciousness?

JeffMesser comments on Jun 1, 2018:

the same self or awareness that resides within us also resides within the dog. it is just filtered through different apparatus no the ability to connect is limited.

What topic could you spend hours talking about?

JeffMesser comments on Jun 1, 2018:

1. the origin and nature of the universe 2. neuroplasticity 3. where rules for social order come from and why

Amusing, Amusement, what amuses you? Amuse me please I need some diversion from self.

JeffMesser comments on Jun 1, 2018:

If this doesnt make you laugh then you're officially dead inside. when I need a quick laugh I view this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZXrKT7PRSU

Who are your all time most beautiful woman of ALL time?

JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2018:

Vanessa Williams, Halle Berry, Natalie Wood, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Raquel Welch, Anne Margaret, Priyanka Chopra, Salma Hayek, Rita Hayworth, Michelle Pfeiffer.

Do you think Science will ever discover how consciousness began?

JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2018:

meh, the old triune model of the brain really shows us what happened. we have our old lizard brain and it picked up an emotional component in the limbic system and then a thinking component in the cortex. each new segment built on top of the last.

Does anyone have experience with ravens and crows.

JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2018:

I have been studying corvids for years. There is nothing wrong with befriending a murder of crows, or a raven, or some magpies. Like many others mentioned they are very intelligent and will hang out. I dont know anything about human/avian diseases though - my studies focus mainly on behavior and neuron activity. Try some cut up weiners. They really seem to like those. You can put a couple of pieces in the open and then make a simple puzzle to get the rest. put them in a sandwich container then put a lid halfway on it. the next time put a rock on the lid. etc... they love puzzles and challenges.

Women! How do you feel about men calling female underwear "panties"?

JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2018:

whats wrong with calling them panties? would you prefer knickers?

What do yall think about what happens after death?

JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2018:

we become consciousness elsewhere and have no recollection of this self.

Does intelligence lead to atheism?

JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2018:

yes

What do you do before a date ?

JeffMesser comments on May 30, 2018:

masturbate

What is a word you use that isn’t in the dictionary and not many other people use?

JeffMesser comments on May 30, 2018:

i often use usetabe. it's just convenient.

Giants?

JeffMesser comments on May 29, 2018:

uh huh. sure.

I came home to find someone had stolen my dictionary and my thesaurus.

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

angry very angry very very angry

I want to learn more about Buddhism and how I can incorporate some of the teachings into my everyday...

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

nvm that link. try this one instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkgfKjrJWBQ

I want to learn more about Buddhism and how I can incorporate some of the teachings into my everyday...

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

please let me add this link to your dharma. these videos are very enlightening for the layman. https://www.youtube.com/user/EnthusiasticBuddhist

Gentlemen, could you please give me some insight concerning unsolicited pictures of male genitalia?

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

they may as well show you who will be making the decisions in your conversations with them.

To our bible belt friends.

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

they're dyin the same as I am so I just feel sorry for the path they have chosen

What are some things that turn you off on a first date that make you determine there won't be ...

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

No matter how good she looks with my car she can't say "Who's Pink Floyd".

Beware of the scam artists on this sight.

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

they're like the puget debs in Officer & a Gentleman. they will have text sex with you and tell you it's all safe but then they will use some cheap security program and it will be broken and your info/dick pics stolen.

If You Only Had One Wish

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

21yo Barbara Eden as my sex slave.

Why would Christians join this site?

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

they feel like it is their duty to turn us.

Deal Breakers

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

vanity

What am I missing .?

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

it's low IQ stuff. I mean, dont get me wrong there's a place and audience for that. But I prefer a little more thought to my humor with the occasional caveman thing thrown in. Or if the caveman type reference is just a bit.

I was initially doubtful about meeting someone online.

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

thats neat!!

Are You Lonely?

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

I enjoyed your bio and this thread and relate to a lot of it. Sometimes I miss physical closeness, but dealing with people is such an attachment oriented affair. I am NOT in the mood for dealing with selfish conservatives so most Okies are off-limits.

Tired of the current state of the GOP?

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

There's no way I could EVER pretend to be a republican. All of their decisions are "me first". I just dont think that way.

This is me, except at 3 am. I tend to forget every time that people are asleep at 3 am. Oops.

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

that logic doesn't necessarily work here. we have people from all over the world.

Missed this at the time.

JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:

I have read quite a few different studies that show DNA from african sources in early Brazil. So this is pretty much known now.

Messaging people to tell them you checked out their profile: creepy or good etiquette?

JeffMesser comments on May 27, 2018:

creeeeeeeepiness

Does anyone else keep this site open and listen for the notification ding or is that just me?

JeffMesser comments on May 27, 2018:

if you'd make more threads about weed I'd read them

What was the happiest day of your life?

JeffMesser comments on May 27, 2018:

It would be easy to say the birth of one of my kids or graduation from law school ... but I am thinking the happiest day in my life was when I left OKC for bootcamp in Orlando. I was finally getting the heck out. I was so ready that my exuberance could not be contained.

WTF US Sex Laws-How Many Have You Broken?

JeffMesser comments on May 27, 2018:

#10 is incomplete ... and even if the animal is over 40 lbs. the sex is still legal provided the animal is unharmed. Thus in Washington state it is completely legal to screw a chicken and then slam its' head in a shutting car door just as you ejaculate to get that quivering dead feeling. just an FYI.

HOLY WORLD DOMINATION, I HAVE 23 FOLLOWERS!! I'll have to order more Kool-aid....

JeffMesser comments on May 27, 2018:

hot chicas get all the breaks

Is it ok if married couples keep secrets from one another?

JeffMesser comments on May 27, 2018:

we all have secrets that we never let anyone else discover.

What has agnostic.com provided for you?

JeffMesser comments on May 27, 2018:

It allows me to see the solutions to their lives that others have developed when confronted with the same issues I face.

One of the things I like the most about Buddhist philosophy is it’s emphasis (generally) on ...

JeffMesser comments on May 27, 2018:

I couldnt agree more. I constantly have people ask me about my "teacher" or which Buddhist train of thought I follow. I see this as a HUGE disservice and now I wont even answer. Shakyamuni Buddha taught that all things are in transition - and this includes our understanding. Becoming comfortable with the status quo staying as is becomes a form of attachment. You must be constantly changing. For years I have gone back and forth on the various views of the self. So much that I completely understand Buddha's half-hearted answer to the question. I dont feel bound by either view. I see the reasoning behind both as well as the reasoning for all 3 views: no self, yes self, and no answer. I think it's important to consider that naming our view places constraints on it. As Kierkegaard noted: "to name me is to limit me".

Life is too short to wear bad shoes.

JeffMesser comments on May 27, 2018:

few things make a day at work so much worse as having bad feet. it just makes you feel miserable.

Why do some people say “no problem” instead of “you’re welcome” when someone thanks them?

JeffMesser comments on May 27, 2018:

because not all cultures are polite like that.

Hi, I'm new to the group, it sounds very interesting.

JeffMesser comments on May 26, 2018:

talking?

Until people get tired of people, including children, being killed or wounded, they will not take ...

JeffMesser comments on May 26, 2018:

Well, I think many of you are missing the big point here. We have a significant population of people who feel scared and rather insecure for some reason. We can sit around and call them names, ridicule them, and just drive a deeper wedge between us. Or we can try to understand the root of their problem and try to actually find a meaningful solution.

Playfulness "The playfulness that is so conspicuous in Taoism and Zen is not an indication of ...

JeffMesser comments on May 26, 2018:

Life should feel buoyant. You have to be able to let go. I think the joy is actually the differences between living and life. This is why I live and operate on the brighter side of life. It seems to have better company than dwelling otherwise.

How long do you have to know someone before you tell a dirty joke?

JeffMesser comments on May 24, 2018:

Two young male attorneys are walking along a Cozumel shoreline when they run upon an absolutely beautiful woman lying naked and unconscious on the beach. Lawyer 1: Let's f*** her! Lawyer 2: Outta what?

A suggestion. If you don’t like what a person is posting, just pass it by...

JeffMesser comments on May 24, 2018:

depends on how much weed I have smoked and how long ago it was that I smoked it.

I love to do art If I don’t create every day I feel like I’m lazy

JeffMesser comments on May 24, 2018:

meh ... I do chicks, my brother does other guys, my neighbor does chickens, and you do art. it takes all kinds. namaste.

The Pangolin I'm watching a Nature episode about them, and it's so interesting - and sad because ...

JeffMesser comments on May 23, 2018:

vicious man-eating pangolins?

I just tried mindful meditation for the very first time.

JeffMesser comments on May 23, 2018:

welcome! Once you find yourself adept at focusing then practice guided thought. Thats where you follow the same practice and then when you're clear follow the first thought in your mind down the rabbit hole. Then just keep taking it further and further. This is how I first reached enlightenment. We wear little ruts in our brains with the same thought patterns all the time and everything seems tainted in that direction ... that is until you take psychoactive drugs or use guided meditation. Doing this allows you to often approach the issue or thought from a different angle - often one you'd never have thought of in normal "mode".

The Irony of it is, that "if" there was such a personge, the average self descirbed evangelical, ...

JeffMesser comments on May 23, 2018:

socialist leaning? where does that come from? Not that I disagree with socialism but I dont see how Jesus would be seen as socialist leaning.

When if ever will the press and dems stand up and rebuff Trumps outrageous distortions of the truth?

JeffMesser comments on May 23, 2018:

trump's presence is only the mechanism. all of this comes back to a discrete minority of people with fringe interests along with a bunch of fiscal conservatives refusing to budge an inch no matter how foul Trump's behavior. We have become a system of politics where only sweeping majorities win now. This is due to both ignorance and apathy. That is what we need to fix. We need for both sides to recognize the other and take money out of politics.

Abrams calls for removal of Confederate faces off Stone Mountain [politics.

JeffMesser comments on May 22, 2018:

WHY would we want to celebrate such a horrid time in our history? This is ignorant.

Is the self an illusion?

JeffMesser comments on May 22, 2018:

Bill Self? Well, HE is real but his hair is an illusion. It's a bad toupee.

Is the self an illusion?

JeffMesser comments on May 22, 2018:

you're not going to find it in the brain. it exists apart from us and within us.

What is the one thing you don't really need?

JeffMesser comments on May 22, 2018:

underpants

Single, Married, Divorced, Widowed.

JeffMesser comments on May 22, 2018:

married once and I will never do that to a human being ever again. fewer attachments = less heartache and an easier life.

Are there any Democrats out there that aren't afraid to declare yourselves?

JeffMesser comments on May 21, 2018:

ashamed of what?

Thich Nhat Hanh: What is Nirvana and How Does It End Suffering?

JeffMesser comments on May 21, 2018:

This is the debate that is so hard for me to engage in with my SE Asian buddhist friends. They are so bull-headed about saying "no self" that they won't even listen to my perspective. When I stepped back to examine the situation I understood the Buddha's perspective and exactly why he chose not to take a side on the matter. There IS a self and there is NOT a self, both. The truth is there is only awareness. That awareness is actually the "self" apart from the individual filters added on by our senses and mind and karma and past choices ... the whole littany of things that makes us who we are aside from pure awareness. The idea and conception of an individual self is merely a sham - there is no such thing. We are all one but our oneness is split into a bunch of individual filters. So there IS a self, and there is not. But I dont blame Buddha Shakyamuni for standing on the narrow middle of the issue - just as he did on eating meat and as the Dalai is doing on self-immolation. Neither wanted their answer to decide the question as there are legitimate positions on either side. I am still working on my conception of karma and how that fits in. Because I believe that karma is the one thing that does survive - but in 2 manners. First as an issue of probabilities. By our personal observations and choices we have set certain probabilities in motion with a resultant still pending. Who will be the receiver? Second there is the vedic belief that as we progress higher our rebirth position improves. If I reach enlightenment now without nibana, will my rebirth be as an enlightened being? Those are my questions @awarenessnow. Any answers would be helpful.

I have been using an old PC with Windows XP for years now and I was a happy camper until last week.

JeffMesser comments on May 20, 2018:

I use chrome exclusively on this win10 computer.

Deadpool 2.

JeffMesser comments on May 19, 2018:

seen it twice so far also. darn good. for a trainee.

Is Bill Maher the best (living) atheist comedian that does Intelligent humor?

JeffMesser comments on May 19, 2018:

Most of the best stand up comedians are atheist ... and even the ones who aren't are pretty shaky when it comes to religion. I would still say Jeselnik and Bo Burnam are among the most intelligent along with Jeff Ross and Lewis Black. Bill Burr claims to be catholic but only because his family would murder him if he said otherwise. He may as well be an atheist. Patton Oswalt too.

A conservative I know asked why is it that liberals hated the rich.

JeffMesser comments on May 19, 2018:

i pretty much hate the rich

Hi! Does anyone have funny stories to share?

JeffMesser comments on May 19, 2018:

I have a joke that I stole ... What did the orphan asthmatic double-amputee get for Christmas? Cancer.

INTRODUCTIONS if you please.

JeffMesser comments on May 19, 2018:

Thank you very much! I appreciate the space and chance to expand my sangha. I was born in the southwest US as a baptist. Learned the folly of such beliefs as a teenager and plodded along "so unaligned" until life piled many things on all at once. I was at the bottom of the barrel physically, mentally, socially, professionally, familially, economically. You name it. But through study of the Upanishads, the Dhammapada, the Bhagavad Gita, and parts of the vedas I started to cure my depression by seeing these events as gains and advantages vice losses. My attachments cast aside it was easier to manage my life and find my true self. I found my path and reached enlightenment first on October 26, 2016. I have since reached basic milestones in my progress on 5 other occasions in 2017 and once so far this year. While it saddens me to have found my path so late in life, it is built on a very solid foundation of loss and crippling devastation. I would never have changed myself but for my previous suffering. So to that extent my life proved Buddha Shakyamuni's conclusions regarding suffering as motivation correct. I currently am in a canonical dispute with many Buddhist teachings due to my views on the self. Thus I completely understand why the Buddha himself refused to answer that question with finality. But my views had already grown beyond the dharma I had initially adopted from Buddhists in Sri Lanka and Thailand and Vietnam (among others). I found many of them to be every bit as close-minded as the Baptists of my youth. At first I decided that I couldnt possibly really be Buddhist and still take in all the vedas and the Gita as I do. But then a friend reminded me that the Buddha himself said we are to be the best of ourselves and not rely on prior teachings or beliefs. Be your own island. Everything interconnects and is in transition so it all gets to you eventually - as long as you get some core issues down pat. Now I consider myself a vedic sage more than anything else and took the name Kauva Aatma after a ceremony at the OKC southside meditation center. I spend my days learning about the vedic culture and trying to remove ego and materiality from my life. namaste

Guys, you do realize that we receive notifications EACH time you visit our profiles?

JeffMesser comments on May 19, 2018:

If you wanted me to look you could have just asked.

Texas Lt. Gov. Says ‘Too Many Entrances’ Possibly To Blame In School Shooting | HuffPost

JeffMesser comments on May 18, 2018:

I understand his point. It's not a 2nd amendment issue. It's a general security issue for schools.

The goal of any fundamentalist religion always has and always will be total control of females.

JeffMesser comments on May 18, 2018:

your first assumption is faulty. patriarchy comes as a by-product of our respective roles in a hunter/gatherer group. when we became farmers our group dynamics changed. we made larger groups to accommodate the new tasks and we incorporated more outsiders. THAT was why we ended up with religion. we had expectations for everyone to get along in close company and those evolved into community standards which become religion.

Masturbation - Do you use your dominate hand?

JeffMesser comments on May 17, 2018:

did you offer your friend some dinner first? 2 men walking along a pier. One sees a dog licking his balls. First man: Lucky dog. I wish I could do that. Second man: well, you might try petting him first.

Free will, Determined, or something else?

JeffMesser comments on May 17, 2018:

predetermined what? once you're past the whole deity thing this is of no consequence.

Let's say "God" does exist.

JeffMesser comments on May 17, 2018:

because we are a patriarchal society. nothing more.

After taking a course in World Religions I felt that if I had to choose I would be a Buddhist.

JeffMesser comments on May 17, 2018:

I was a buddhist and now I consider myself vedic.

“Sagan puts to the Dalai Lama the question he asked every major religious leader he met with: ...

JeffMesser comments on May 17, 2018:

Buddhists are taught that all things are in transition ... including explanations. Do not hold on to your beliefs too tightly because things may change.

Favorite cover songs?

JeffMesser comments on May 16, 2018:

You people are all old.

Hi, I'm new here, I really like to meet new like minded people :)

JeffMesser comments on May 16, 2018:

We are homo sapiens. we are all of like minds.

What’s a movie you can never get tired of?

JeffMesser comments on May 16, 2018:

5th Element

So glad to find this group.

JeffMesser comments on May 16, 2018:

Hominids' switch from hunter-gatherers to farmers in the fertile crescent following the last mini ice age. this seems to be the period where we developed social rules to allow us to co-exist within communities.

Vikings got there first.

JeffMesser comments on May 15, 2018:

Of course they did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rft9QtIFks

Humor is essential

JeffMesser comments on May 14, 2018:

Well ... at least you SMELL funny ... if that helps?

What are your three favorite movies of all time

JeffMesser comments on May 11, 2018:

Half Baked Cool Hand Luke The Great Escape 5th Element gets honorable mention

I was watching a documentary about tattoos and society's reaction to people who took it to the ...

JeffMesser comments on May 11, 2018:

Meh. tattoos are all about ego. I work on getting rid of ego so no.

Community living

JeffMesser comments on May 11, 2018:

I would like to make a hippie community with a bunch of tiny homes connected by pathways to a common area/s.

Interested in legitament response that are not knee jerk replies to the following question.

JeffMesser comments on May 10, 2018:

Insecurity

What do you to make yourself feel sexy?

JeffMesser comments on May 9, 2018:

First I unsnap my elaborate set of pulleys and trusses which had my back straight and my gut taught. Then I pull off my hook and snap on my pleasurin' hand ...

It’s amazing how a story, one that changes overtime how become the core belief of so many people ...

JeffMesser comments on May 8, 2018:

Actually I find it rather ordinary. It's a common sociological phenomenon.

What novel or novels do you frequently go back to and read over?

JeffMesser comments on May 8, 2018:

Jonathan Livingston Seagull

Every problem has a resolution, every question an answer -- yes or no?

JeffMesser comments on May 8, 2018:

You are often on the path to the solution already ... you just have a different time reference for a solution. we expect answers on OUR time schedule and thats not always the case.

Still one of the funniest damn things I've ever seen.

JeffMesser comments on May 8, 2018:

I remember our local NBC affiliate would show SCTV at midnight after SNL. It was hilarious. My first exposure to John Candy, Dave Thomas, Catherine O'Hara etc... before they all became famous.

Amusing thing happened today.

JeffMesser comments on May 8, 2018:

10 years ago I had a couple of heart attacks and I was dead for a few minutes. It's pretty boring. Just a lot of screaming and hot flashes. Not really but I love to tell people that.

Someone is sick or just passed away....

JeffMesser comments on May 7, 2018:

As long as they are in your heart they will be with you forever

Favorite movie

JeffMesser comments on May 6, 2018:

Blazing Saddles

Current Country or Residence

JeffMesser comments on May 6, 2018:

USA - Oklahoma - a small mexican village north of the red river known as Oklahoma City.

Two brothers are curators of a natural history museum.

JeffMesser comments on May 5, 2018:

A stunning young writer named Doris thought that stories of love would just bore us blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah something funny that ends with "clitoris".

A Good Time is Guaranteed for None.

JeffMesser comments on May 5, 2018:

Sitting in a large pit sectional in the living room with a half-dozen friends smoking weed and explaining the universe

I am a runner.

JeffMesser comments on May 5, 2018:

Running from what?

Are you a snob? With what subjects/topics? . I am, here are mine: Movies, Coffee, Toilet Paper.

JeffMesser comments on May 4, 2018:

I have tried to lose my ego but from time to time it still turns up and makes me act arrogant in such a manner.

We all have that one fantasy celebrity cheat. Who is yours? Mine is Rachel Maddow.

JeffMesser comments on May 3, 2018:

I still have a jones for Lori Loughlin. or Selma Hayek.