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Dating and age
LiterateHiker comments on Jun 7, 2018:
The older I get, the harder it is to find a fit, athletic man who still loves hiking.
The majority of men my age are fat and sedentary. Ugh.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2018:
oh yeah? well maybe we're tired from working our tails off for 50 years?!? su there. ugh.
LiterateHiker comments on Jun 7, 2018:
The older I get, the harder it is to find a fit, athletic man who still loves hiking.
The majority of men my age are fat and sedentary. Ugh.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 7, 2018:
oh yeah? well maybe we're tired from working our tails off for 50 years?!? su there. ugh.
I'm reminded of this whenever I think the answers are somewhere else "out there."
JeffMesser comments on Jun 6, 2018:
The Buddha spoke of a group of blind wise men traveling the Indus valley. The men happened upon a sick elephant lying silently in the road and sought to identify the animal. The first felt only the animal's leg and thought it a tree. The second patted it on the side and thought it a hut. The third ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2018:
@Wallace excellent! thank you for sharing that. I like adding to my koans.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 6, 2018:
The Buddha spoke of a group of blind wise men traveling the Indus valley. The men happened upon a sick elephant lying silently in the road and sought to identify the animal. The first felt only the animal's leg and thought it a tree. The second patted it on the side and thought it a hut. The third ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2018:
@Wallace excellent! thank you for sharing that. I like adding to my koans.
Guys, please reconsider using plastic bags while shopping.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 6, 2018:
I kept reading this thinking why do they want me to use plastic bags??? and then I saw you said REconsider. I thought you just said consider. way too high to comprehend your posts apparently. wish we could melt all plastic into building blocks or solar cells.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2018:
@Shapoklyak no my friend. it was MY fault. thats what I am saying. your message was perfect. I was being faulty.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 6, 2018:
I kept reading this thinking why do they want me to use plastic bags??? and then I saw you said REconsider. I thought you just said consider. way too high to comprehend your posts apparently. wish we could melt all plastic into building blocks or solar cells.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2018:
@Shapoklyak no my friend. it was MY fault. thats what I am saying. your message was perfect. I was being faulty.
The anger DOES subside at some point
Denker comments on Jun 5, 2018:
Religion has been made into an attempt to explain the world by priests who cannot afford for their authority's sake to say "I don't know". It didn't work out very well, much of it is corrected by science but the Christians refuse to go back and revise their holy manual.
I don't blame my ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2018:
@NoMagicCookie oh it's all good. that was just a rather awkward shift from the subtleties of religiosity to anal intercourse.
Denker comments on Jun 5, 2018:
Religion has been made into an attempt to explain the world by priests who cannot afford for their authority's sake to say "I don't know". It didn't work out very well, much of it is corrected by science but the Christians refuse to go back and revise their holy manual.
I don't blame my ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2018:
@NoMagicCookie oh it's all good. that was just a rather awkward shift from the subtleties of religiosity to anal intercourse.
I'm a survivor, how about you???
XxDARKNEXUSxX comments on Jun 6, 2018:
Forgot - Lawn Darts - asbestos - colored Toilet paper lol anyone remember Clackers the 1st ones all over school , the glass balls on string and people were losing eyes etc WOW just remembered them as farm boy using DDT the idiots on crops .
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2018:
I was gonna add lawn darts and kerknockers
XxDARKNEXUSxX comments on Jun 6, 2018:
Forgot - Lawn Darts - asbestos - colored Toilet paper lol anyone remember Clackers the 1st ones all over school , the glass balls on string and people were losing eyes etc WOW just remembered them as farm boy using DDT the idiots on crops .
JeffMesser replies on Jun 6, 2018:
I was gonna add lawn darts and kerknockers
The anger DOES subside at some point
ErikGunderson comments on Jun 4, 2018:
I'm not angry at my parents for playing the Santa Claus game with me. And I'm certainly not mad at Santa Claus. I don't see parents doing the Santa Claus thing as doing more than engaging in harmless, well-meaning fun and I'm not angry at them.
Some people disagree, but I think there's a general ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
you have to address the cause of their errant perception.
ErikGunderson comments on Jun 4, 2018:
I'm not angry at my parents for playing the Santa Claus game with me. And I'm certainly not mad at Santa Claus. I don't see parents doing the Santa Claus thing as doing more than engaging in harmless, well-meaning fun and I'm not angry at them.
Some people disagree, but I think there's a general ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
you have to address the cause of their errant perception.
The anger DOES subside at some point
Denker comments on Jun 5, 2018:
Religion has been made into an attempt to explain the world by priests who cannot afford for their authority's sake to say "I don't know". It didn't work out very well, much of it is corrected by science but the Christians refuse to go back and revise their holy manual.
I don't blame my ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@NoMagicCookie well THAT escalated in a hurry! how about those Bears!
Denker comments on Jun 5, 2018:
Religion has been made into an attempt to explain the world by priests who cannot afford for their authority's sake to say "I don't know". It didn't work out very well, much of it is corrected by science but the Christians refuse to go back and revise their holy manual.
I don't blame my ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@NoMagicCookie well THAT escalated in a hurry! how about those Bears!
Do you REALLY look like the pictures you put up in social media?
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
I suspect catfishing among the troops here
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@onlyduh I freely admit to not being nearly as handsome as this rugged young monk in the photo.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
I suspect catfishing among the troops here
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@onlyduh I freely admit to not being nearly as handsome as this rugged young monk in the photo.
Neanderthal dna
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
you are unique ... just as are the denosovans from malaysia and australia. it's just a matter of how our ancestors traveled the planet.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@jimg @deetee I appreciate your responses.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
you are unique ... just as are the denosovans from malaysia and australia. it's just a matter of how our ancestors traveled the planet.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@jimg @deetee I appreciate your responses.
Jesus died for your cakes
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
did he die only for cakes or was it for all baked confections? I mean, if a couple of lesbians come in and want some sconces ... is that cool? Maybe just one nancy-boy wanting an eclair? Can a bear get a bearclaw? I need to know where to draw the homosexual pastry line.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@resserts a brigette bar-donut. cream filled long john.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
did he die only for cakes or was it for all baked confections? I mean, if a couple of lesbians come in and want some sconces ... is that cool? Maybe just one nancy-boy wanting an eclair? Can a bear get a bearclaw? I need to know where to draw the homosexual pastry line.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@resserts a brigette bar-donut. cream filled long john.
Jesus died for your cakes
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
did he die only for cakes or was it for all baked confections? I mean, if a couple of lesbians come in and want some sconces ... is that cool? Maybe just one nancy-boy wanting an eclair? Can a bear get a bearclaw? I need to know where to draw the homosexual pastry line.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@Redcupcoffee I think paul was the only one who actually said anything about homosexuals. he was a dick.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
did he die only for cakes or was it for all baked confections? I mean, if a couple of lesbians come in and want some sconces ... is that cool? Maybe just one nancy-boy wanting an eclair? Can a bear get a bearclaw? I need to know where to draw the homosexual pastry line.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@Redcupcoffee I think paul was the only one who actually said anything about homosexuals. he was a dick.
Neanderthal dna
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
you are unique ... just as are the denosovans from malaysia and australia. it's just a matter of how our ancestors traveled the planet.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@Donotbelieve did I say something wrong?
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
you are unique ... just as are the denosovans from malaysia and australia. it's just a matter of how our ancestors traveled the planet.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@Donotbelieve did I say something wrong?
Neanderthal dna
OpposingOpposum comments on Jun 5, 2018:
I read somewhere that Neanderthals are thought to have been gentler and stronger than homo sapiens. Something like chimpanzees vs. Bonobos. Homo sapiens won out because we're bigger bastards. I'll see if I can find that link.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
I believe it was because homo sapien had a taller throat and could resonate a voice so speech was much easier.
OpposingOpposum comments on Jun 5, 2018:
I read somewhere that Neanderthals are thought to have been gentler and stronger than homo sapiens. Something like chimpanzees vs. Bonobos. Homo sapiens won out because we're bigger bastards. I'll see if I can find that link.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
I believe it was because homo sapien had a taller throat and could resonate a voice so speech was much easier.
Neanderthal dna
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
you are unique ... just as are the denosovans from malaysia and australia. it's just a matter of how our ancestors traveled the planet.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@Donotbelieve hobby and religious affirmation. this is how I led myself to the vedas. I think all of the religious stories and texts are the result of this social formation (farms and subsequent communities) and we can trace development of the social rules all the way back to then.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
you are unique ... just as are the denosovans from malaysia and australia. it's just a matter of how our ancestors traveled the planet.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@Donotbelieve hobby and religious affirmation. this is how I led myself to the vedas. I think all of the religious stories and texts are the result of this social formation (farms and subsequent communities) and we can trace development of the social rules all the way back to then.
Neanderthal dna
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
you are unique ... just as are the denosovans from malaysia and australia. it's just a matter of how our ancestors traveled the planet.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@Donotbelieve I study the evolution of our social structure biologically and organically. Our advances while changing from hunter-gatherers to farmers is my primary focus.
JeffMesser comments on Jun 5, 2018:
you are unique ... just as are the denosovans from malaysia and australia. it's just a matter of how our ancestors traveled the planet.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@Donotbelieve I study the evolution of our social structure biologically and organically. Our advances while changing from hunter-gatherers to farmers is my primary focus.
My new favorite joke!
hankster comments on Jun 4, 2018:
that joke is going to be so old by the time we hear it.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@hankster the wooden joke kicked ass
hankster comments on Jun 4, 2018:
that joke is going to be so old by the time we hear it.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
@hankster the wooden joke kicked ass
Is social media ruining peoples ability to connect?
PulsarExistence comments on Jun 5, 2018:
Humans are wired to connect face to face. We are ill adapted to connect other ways.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
lots of truth in this. we are wired and set up to evaluate people based on things we see or smell or hear. this alters our very thinking and will change dramatically without face to face contact. maybe it will end up being good.
PulsarExistence comments on Jun 5, 2018:
Humans are wired to connect face to face. We are ill adapted to connect other ways.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
lots of truth in this. we are wired and set up to evaluate people based on things we see or smell or hear. this alters our very thinking and will change dramatically without face to face contact. maybe it will end up being good.
The anger DOES subside at some point
Denker comments on Jun 5, 2018:
Religion has been made into an attempt to explain the world by priests who cannot afford for their authority's sake to say "I don't know". It didn't work out very well, much of it is corrected by science but the Christians refuse to go back and revise their holy manual.
I don't blame my ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
I agree with the dalai in that I see the positives of religion such that it's probably better that they do exist rather than not. But I wont go much further in crowing their usefulness. Overall they have done almost as much harm as good and in my opinion they are responsible for many of our ills.
Denker comments on Jun 5, 2018:
Religion has been made into an attempt to explain the world by priests who cannot afford for their authority's sake to say "I don't know". It didn't work out very well, much of it is corrected by science but the Christians refuse to go back and revise their holy manual.
I don't blame my ...
JeffMesser replies on Jun 5, 2018:
I agree with the dalai in that I see the positives of religion such that it's probably better that they do exist rather than not. But I wont go much further in crowing their usefulness. Overall they have done almost as much harm as good and in my opinion they are responsible for many of our ills.
Who is the most honest political commentator you know?
JeffMesser comments on Jun 2, 2018:
you have to learn the right and left sides of the issues then decide for yourself. It is disingenuous to pick a source because you consider them to your political leaning and then just believe them. There are actual, valid issues on both sides.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 3, 2018:
@nezer then you have learned nothing
JeffMesser comments on Jun 2, 2018:
you have to learn the right and left sides of the issues then decide for yourself. It is disingenuous to pick a source because you consider them to your political leaning and then just believe them. There are actual, valid issues on both sides.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 3, 2018:
@nezer then you have learned nothing
Guys: is there a double standard?
sassygirl3869 comments on Jun 1, 2018:
I'm a woman who has dated younger by 8-25 years. I've always looked younger.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2018:
younger than what?
sassygirl3869 comments on Jun 1, 2018:
I'm a woman who has dated younger by 8-25 years. I've always looked younger.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2018:
younger than what?
Before the beginning there was nog.
silverotter11 comments on Jun 1, 2018:
But why was there om? What changed that om vibrated? And just what is the nature of nog? If everything was in perfect balance who fucked up the cha cha? oops sorry, the evil twin just popped up. :)
I sure like your post!! I also think we are all one.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2018:
this site keeps dropping letters out of my posts. that shouldnt say "nog". It should say "nothing".
What changed? I dont know. and I wont suppose. I insert a "black box" for the answer and move forward.
silverotter11 comments on Jun 1, 2018:
But why was there om? What changed that om vibrated? And just what is the nature of nog? If everything was in perfect balance who fucked up the cha cha? oops sorry, the evil twin just popped up. :)
I sure like your post!! I also think we are all one.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2018:
this site keeps dropping letters out of my posts. that shouldnt say "nog". It should say "nothing".
What changed? I dont know. and I wont suppose. I insert a "black box" for the answer and move forward.
Does a dog have a consciousness?
JeffMesser comments on Jun 1, 2018:
the same self or awareness that resides within us also resides within the dog. it is just filtered through different apparatus no the ability to connect is limited.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2018:
@WilliamFleming I will be checking those out today. Always looking for new twists and turns. Thanks!!!
JeffMesser comments on Jun 1, 2018:
the same self or awareness that resides within us also resides within the dog. it is just filtered through different apparatus no the ability to connect is limited.
JeffMesser replies on Jun 1, 2018:
@WilliamFleming I will be checking those out today. Always looking for new twists and turns. Thanks!!!
Yes "Roseanne" should have been cancelled.
birdingnut comments on May 31, 2018:
How was the View comparable?
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2018:
it's not. thats the trump supporters argument.
birdingnut comments on May 31, 2018:
How was the View comparable?
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2018:
it's not. thats the trump supporters argument.
What do yall think about what happens after death?
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2018:
we become consciousness elsewhere and have no recollection of this self.
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2018:
@Marine no offense intended but that's your cue to perform independent study. There's a very valid reason that Buddhists don't proselytize - the journey is every bit as important as the destination. To just be hand-fed an answer gains you nothing.
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2018:
we become consciousness elsewhere and have no recollection of this self.
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2018:
@Marine no offense intended but that's your cue to perform independent study. There's a very valid reason that Buddhists don't proselytize - the journey is every bit as important as the destination. To just be hand-fed an answer gains you nothing.
What do yall think about what happens after death?
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2018:
we become consciousness elsewhere and have no recollection of this self.
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2018:
@Marine good question. it depends on who you believe there. I contend there is an issue with resultant karma that "drops you into" an advanced level, but my study there is barely in its' infancy. you'd need some experts on the Vedas to help you there.
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2018:
we become consciousness elsewhere and have no recollection of this self.
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2018:
@Marine good question. it depends on who you believe there. I contend there is an issue with resultant karma that "drops you into" an advanced level, but my study there is barely in its' infancy. you'd need some experts on the Vedas to help you there.
Does anyone have experience with ravens and crows.
birdingnut comments on May 31, 2018:
Any time you persuade wild birds or animals to look to humans for food and to approach them, you are putting them at risk. And yourself, from disease.
Best to leave food at a distance.
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2018:
not with corvids. they are an exception.
birdingnut comments on May 31, 2018:
Any time you persuade wild birds or animals to look to humans for food and to approach them, you are putting them at risk. And yourself, from disease.
Best to leave food at a distance.
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2018:
not with corvids. they are an exception.
Does anyone have experience with ravens and crows.
AnneWimsey comments on May 31, 2018:
Pretty clean birds, very gregarious. However, did you think of the consequences to them if they come to believe all humans are "good"?
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2018:
thats not a problem with corvids
AnneWimsey comments on May 31, 2018:
Pretty clean birds, very gregarious. However, did you think of the consequences to them if they come to believe all humans are "good"?
JeffMesser replies on May 31, 2018:
thats not a problem with corvids
What do you do before a date ?
JeffMesser comments on May 30, 2018:
masturbate
JeffMesser replies on May 30, 2018:
@squiggy_70 agreed. I just like hanging out to drink tea and smoke weed.
JeffMesser comments on May 30, 2018:
masturbate
JeffMesser replies on May 30, 2018:
@squiggy_70 agreed. I just like hanging out to drink tea and smoke weed.
What is a word you use that isn’t in the dictionary and not many other people use?
JeffMesser comments on May 30, 2018:
i often use usetabe. it's just convenient.
JeffMesser replies on May 30, 2018:
@Kuildeous well, if I am trying to say something about like "back in the old days ... " then instead I can say "usetabe ... ". Does that help?
JeffMesser comments on May 30, 2018:
i often use usetabe. it's just convenient.
JeffMesser replies on May 30, 2018:
@Kuildeous well, if I am trying to say something about like "back in the old days ... " then instead I can say "usetabe ... ". Does that help?
Share your scariest story.
SCbeelady comments on May 29, 2018:
When I was a kid my parents took us to the drive in to see the boggie creek monster. I must of been about 8 yrs old. That movie scared the crap out of myself and my two brothers. We lived on a river. All these years later I can still get a little spooked in the woods.
JeffMesser replies on May 29, 2018:
I think I was 7 or 8 when it came out at the cheap theaters in Odessa Tx. That movie scared me so bad!! Especially the bathroom scene.
SCbeelady comments on May 29, 2018:
When I was a kid my parents took us to the drive in to see the boggie creek monster. I must of been about 8 yrs old. That movie scared the crap out of myself and my two brothers. We lived on a river. All these years later I can still get a little spooked in the woods.
JeffMesser replies on May 29, 2018:
I think I was 7 or 8 when it came out at the cheap theaters in Odessa Tx. That movie scared me so bad!! Especially the bathroom scene.
I came home to find someone had stolen my dictionary and my thesaurus.
JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:
angry
very angry
very very angry
JeffMesser replies on May 29, 2018:
@Garth-Vader exactly! who needs a damn thesaurus when you have "very".
JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:
angry
very angry
very very angry
JeffMesser replies on May 29, 2018:
@Garth-Vader exactly! who needs a damn thesaurus when you have "very".
Some theory things I am working on ATM .
skado comments on May 28, 2018:
All interesting trains of thought. I especially like number 4. We are definitely strongest working together.
JeffMesser replies on May 29, 2018:
@skado https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/brain-cells-for-socializing-133855450/
skado comments on May 28, 2018:
All interesting trains of thought. I especially like number 4. We are definitely strongest working together.
JeffMesser replies on May 29, 2018:
@skado https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/brain-cells-for-socializing-133855450/
Some theory things I am working on ATM .
skado comments on May 28, 2018:
All interesting trains of thought. I especially like number 4. We are definitely strongest working together.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
I was intrigued by this communication center in our brain. the other animals on our planet with such a feature are among the most social and group-oriented (dolphins, orca, crows).
skado comments on May 28, 2018:
All interesting trains of thought. I especially like number 4. We are definitely strongest working together.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
I was intrigued by this communication center in our brain. the other animals on our planet with such a feature are among the most social and group-oriented (dolphins, orca, crows).
Beware of the scam artists on this sight.
JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:
they're like the puget debs in Officer & a Gentleman. they will have text sex with you and tell you it's all safe but then they will use some cheap security program and it will be broken and your info/dick pics stolen.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
@McVinegar well ... aren't you the attractive ass magnet!
JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:
they're like the puget debs in Officer & a Gentleman. they will have text sex with you and tell you it's all safe but then they will use some cheap security program and it will be broken and your info/dick pics stolen.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
@McVinegar well ... aren't you the attractive ass magnet!
If You Only Had One Wish
JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:
21yo Barbara Eden as my sex slave.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
@buzz13 she was so beautiful. I was smitten.
JeffMesser comments on May 28, 2018:
21yo Barbara Eden as my sex slave.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
@buzz13 she was so beautiful. I was smitten.
What is the religion that when you meet someone you think it is the MOST ridiculous religion there ...
FreeThinker79 comments on May 28, 2018:
Hinduism(they believe in animal gods) & Christianity.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
animal gods? mmmm, no.
FreeThinker79 comments on May 28, 2018:
Hinduism(they believe in animal gods) & Christianity.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
animal gods? mmmm, no.
Deal Breakers
Redcupcoffee comments on May 27, 2018:
Trump lover, Republican or Christian - OUT.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
@NerdyOkieDude whats wrong with karaoke? that just makes it sound like you dont want to have fun.
Redcupcoffee comments on May 27, 2018:
Trump lover, Republican or Christian - OUT.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
@NerdyOkieDude whats wrong with karaoke? that just makes it sound like you dont want to have fun.
What am I missing .?
Redcupcoffee comments on May 6, 2018:
Ugh, don't bother, Parks and Rec sucks, it's shitty low-brow, dumb, low hanging-fruit humor.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
exactly. mindless drivel.
Redcupcoffee comments on May 6, 2018:
Ugh, don't bother, Parks and Rec sucks, it's shitty low-brow, dumb, low hanging-fruit humor.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
exactly. mindless drivel.
What am I missing .?
gater comments on May 6, 2018:
Try seasons 5, 6, or 7 of Married..with Children - in my humble opinion the greatest comedy ever!
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
plus it's christina applegate!
gater comments on May 6, 2018:
Try seasons 5, 6, or 7 of Married..with Children - in my humble opinion the greatest comedy ever!
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
plus it's christina applegate!
What am I missing .?
Jnei comments on May 6, 2018:
I never got it either. Same goes for The Big Bang Theory, and Two And A Half Men was as unfunny as it was misogynist.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
I actually like BBT but I agree regarding 2.5 men. That show was nothing but sex references for 30 minutes. to me thats crap writing.
Jnei comments on May 6, 2018:
I never got it either. Same goes for The Big Bang Theory, and Two And A Half Men was as unfunny as it was misogynist.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
I actually like BBT but I agree regarding 2.5 men. That show was nothing but sex references for 30 minutes. to me thats crap writing.
What am I missing .?
PickledRick comments on May 6, 2018:
Brit shows are better than the crap on American television.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
I like them when I can understand them.
PickledRick comments on May 6, 2018:
Brit shows are better than the crap on American television.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
I like them when I can understand them.
Fat.
Redcupcoffee comments on May 27, 2018:
My exp is a bit different. I have a very close "friend" who is 450lbs and a guy, he has zero problem getting dates, he has a good personality and has money, maybe that's his thing, but he has zero shame too.
I think the fat thing coincides with being slovenly, unhealthy, and unmindful. You're ...
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
meh, being fat is my fault. Sometimes I wanna blame bad health or sad life but it is a discipline thing. I enjoy my free time, my weed, and my food. I live as a minimalist - and do light professional work to pay the few bills I do have. So if people are repulsed by my existence then it is on purely aesthetic reasons because I earned everything I have - good and bad. And if they're that shallow then they're a waste of my time anyway. I don't suffer fools or materialists or the vain well.
Redcupcoffee comments on May 27, 2018:
My exp is a bit different. I have a very close "friend" who is 450lbs and a guy, he has zero problem getting dates, he has a good personality and has money, maybe that's his thing, but he has zero shame too.
I think the fat thing coincides with being slovenly, unhealthy, and unmindful. You're ...
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
meh, being fat is my fault. Sometimes I wanna blame bad health or sad life but it is a discipline thing. I enjoy my free time, my weed, and my food. I live as a minimalist - and do light professional work to pay the few bills I do have. So if people are repulsed by my existence then it is on purely aesthetic reasons because I earned everything I have - good and bad. And if they're that shallow then they're a waste of my time anyway. I don't suffer fools or materialists or the vain well.
Does this make you want to smoke weed?
Crimson67 comments on May 28, 2018:
No, the idea of smoking anything grosses me out.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
meh ... you can vape it or eat it
Crimson67 comments on May 28, 2018:
No, the idea of smoking anything grosses me out.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
meh ... you can vape it or eat it
Does anyone else keep this site open and listen for the notification ding or is that just me?
JeffMesser comments on May 27, 2018:
if you'd make more threads about weed I'd read them
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
@CreativelyMe doubt making it up to Wisconsin is a possibility ... but you can hand out with my cousin Kimmie who lives in some place called Kimberly.
JeffMesser comments on May 27, 2018:
if you'd make more threads about weed I'd read them
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
@CreativelyMe doubt making it up to Wisconsin is a possibility ... but you can hand out with my cousin Kimmie who lives in some place called Kimberly.
Does this make you want to smoke weed?
MrLizard comments on May 28, 2018:
I hate smoke. I want the THC without the inhalation.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
I use a Pax 3 vape.
MrLizard comments on May 28, 2018:
I hate smoke. I want the THC without the inhalation.
JeffMesser replies on May 28, 2018:
I use a Pax 3 vape.
Until people get tired of people, including children, being killed or wounded, they will not take ...
repubatheists comments on May 26, 2018:
What about the children who have been saved by "good" people with guns? There are plenty of examples.
JeffMesser replies on May 26, 2018:
no there arent. thats a load of hooey.
repubatheists comments on May 26, 2018:
What about the children who have been saved by "good" people with guns? There are plenty of examples.
JeffMesser replies on May 26, 2018:
no there arent. thats a load of hooey.
How long have you been/were you agnostic?
VAL3941 comments on May 26, 2018:
All my life, Why ???
JeffMesser replies on May 26, 2018:
curiosity or maybe I'm doing a study.
VAL3941 comments on May 26, 2018:
All my life, Why ???
JeffMesser replies on May 26, 2018:
curiosity or maybe I'm doing a study.
The Pangolin
I'm watching a Nature episode about them, and it's so interesting - and sad because ...
JeffMesser comments on May 23, 2018:
vicious man-eating pangolins?
JeffMesser replies on May 24, 2018:
@SACatWalker exactly. it's like finding a mean streak in a baby sloth.
JeffMesser comments on May 23, 2018:
vicious man-eating pangolins?
JeffMesser replies on May 24, 2018:
@SACatWalker exactly. it's like finding a mean streak in a baby sloth.
Is the self an illusion?
JeffMesser comments on May 22, 2018:
you're not going to find it in the brain. it exists apart from us and within us.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@jwd45244 and what about before they had the knowledge to prove gravity? did it not exist until then?
JeffMesser comments on May 22, 2018:
you're not going to find it in the brain. it exists apart from us and within us.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@jwd45244 and what about before they had the knowledge to prove gravity? did it not exist until then?
Is the self an illusion?
Amisja comments on May 22, 2018:
I believe that human beings are arrogant to believe they are somehow superior to any other creature. If we believe in 'self' we may as well believe in a soul. We are a lump of jangled atoms, genetics, hormones and neurotransmitters.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@jwd45244 they called gravity hogwash as well until it could be explained.
Amisja comments on May 22, 2018:
I believe that human beings are arrogant to believe they are somehow superior to any other creature. If we believe in 'self' we may as well believe in a soul. We are a lump of jangled atoms, genetics, hormones and neurotransmitters.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@jwd45244 they called gravity hogwash as well until it could be explained.
What happens when we die?
moNOtheist comments on May 22, 2018:
It would seem to me that, once the animating electical flow has ceased, consciousness ends and with it, everything. How can consciousness move on? Without the brain, it cannot exist, in the same way that an electrical charge cannot exist outside the battery that houses it.
If human consciousness ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@moNOtheist Not having a traditional teacher actually aided me in my path as a Buddhist and vedic. It meant I have to take every concept and convert it to the western equivalent that I understood to see if it withstood current science and math. Much of the scientific knowledge of the east in those areas is horribly dated. I separated those things and included current western thoughts in the sciences and math and quantum physics. What didnt get washed over however was Indian psychology. The east is far far more advanced in that regard. Only now is the west admitting the advantages of mindfulness and meditation. By not having a traditionally-influenced teacher I was not subject to their preconceived notions. I learned Buddhism on my own through study of the Upanishads, the Dhammapada, and the Gita. I used strictly sanskrit of the original teachings (as remembered by monks for centuries obviously) and came to my own conclusions. Amazingly it led me to the same conclusions and Shakyamuni Buddha and even the current Dalai Lama. There exists a self or awareness or consciousness or whatever you want to label it today and it exists in all things. On its' own it is and does nothing except observe differences from moment to moment. The vibration or relative vibration of things from one moment passing to the next. Our senses interpret those changes as sight or smell or sound and the information is a filter to our self. This is how it "sees" the world. That self, our memories, our senses, and our karma all make up that illusion of an individual self when there really is none. Once3 you know it's there, through introspection and meditation, it's a matter of seeing what happens when the shell dies. It continues to exist but at the level of growth previously experienced through the momentum of karma. Hindus, Buddhists, and others try to explain away the resultant karma and where/who it acts upon. That is where the anomaly lies that some find reincarnation. We just call it rebirth. We are actually just awareness in the flesh and when this flesh falls away we are just present in some other shell at relatively the same level if the Hindus are to be believed.
moNOtheist comments on May 22, 2018:
It would seem to me that, once the animating electical flow has ceased, consciousness ends and with it, everything. How can consciousness move on? Without the brain, it cannot exist, in the same way that an electrical charge cannot exist outside the battery that houses it.
If human consciousness ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@moNOtheist Not having a traditional teacher actually aided me in my path as a Buddhist and vedic. It meant I have to take every concept and convert it to the western equivalent that I understood to see if it withstood current science and math. Much of the scientific knowledge of the east in those areas is horribly dated. I separated those things and included current western thoughts in the sciences and math and quantum physics. What didnt get washed over however was Indian psychology. The east is far far more advanced in that regard. Only now is the west admitting the advantages of mindfulness and meditation. By not having a traditionally-influenced teacher I was not subject to their preconceived notions. I learned Buddhism on my own through study of the Upanishads, the Dhammapada, and the Gita. I used strictly sanskrit of the original teachings (as remembered by monks for centuries obviously) and came to my own conclusions. Amazingly it led me to the same conclusions and Shakyamuni Buddha and even the current Dalai Lama. There exists a self or awareness or consciousness or whatever you want to label it today and it exists in all things. On its' own it is and does nothing except observe differences from moment to moment. The vibration or relative vibration of things from one moment passing to the next. Our senses interpret those changes as sight or smell or sound and the information is a filter to our self. This is how it "sees" the world. That self, our memories, our senses, and our karma all make up that illusion of an individual self when there really is none. Once3 you know it's there, through introspection and meditation, it's a matter of seeing what happens when the shell dies. It continues to exist but at the level of growth previously experienced through the momentum of karma. Hindus, Buddhists, and others try to explain away the resultant karma and where/who it acts upon. That is where the anomaly lies that some find reincarnation. We just call it rebirth. We are actually just awareness in the flesh and when this flesh falls away we are just present in some other shell at relatively the same level if the Hindus are to be believed.
What happens when we die?
DenoPenno comments on May 22, 2018:
You die and your consciousness moves on. To where? Why is it that nobody has made contact with such consciousness? With this unanswered it makes me say you have no proof for your belief. It's the same wishful thinking that theists use because of their fear of death.
I had no answers or anxieties...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@moNOtheist I can understand where you'd think that unless you've been a student of meditation. prove gravity to me without math.
DenoPenno comments on May 22, 2018:
You die and your consciousness moves on. To where? Why is it that nobody has made contact with such consciousness? With this unanswered it makes me say you have no proof for your belief. It's the same wishful thinking that theists use because of their fear of death.
I had no answers or anxieties...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@moNOtheist I can understand where you'd think that unless you've been a student of meditation. prove gravity to me without math.
What happens when we die?
NothinnXpreVails comments on May 22, 2018:
Why would consciousness go on? Evidence for assertion?
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@NothinnXpreVails yes, all buddhists must be crazy huh.
NothinnXpreVails comments on May 22, 2018:
Why would consciousness go on? Evidence for assertion?
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@NothinnXpreVails yes, all buddhists must be crazy huh.
Is the self an illusion?
JeffMesser comments on May 22, 2018:
you're not going to find it in the brain. it exists apart from us and within us.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@JimmyM more like a rule of space. like gravity or probabilities.
JeffMesser comments on May 22, 2018:
you're not going to find it in the brain. it exists apart from us and within us.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@JimmyM more like a rule of space. like gravity or probabilities.
What happens when we die?
NothinnXpreVails comments on May 22, 2018:
Why would consciousness go on? Evidence for assertion?
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@NothinnXpreVails ok, show me some gravity. a picture or maybe a teaspoon. not the effects of it, but actual gravity. please show me some.
Uhm, until you meditate you cannot say that.
NothinnXpreVails comments on May 22, 2018:
Why would consciousness go on? Evidence for assertion?
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@NothinnXpreVails ok, show me some gravity. a picture or maybe a teaspoon. not the effects of it, but actual gravity. please show me some.
Uhm, until you meditate you cannot say that.
Is the self an illusion?
JeffMesser comments on May 22, 2018:
you're not going to find it in the brain. it exists apart from us and within us.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@jwd45244 really? OK, show me some gravity. Just a picture of it or maybe a teaspoon.
JeffMesser comments on May 22, 2018:
you're not going to find it in the brain. it exists apart from us and within us.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@jwd45244 really? OK, show me some gravity. Just a picture of it or maybe a teaspoon.
What is the one thing you don't really need?
JeffMesser comments on May 22, 2018:
underpants
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@snytiger6 yep. I haven't owned underwear since the 90's.
JeffMesser comments on May 22, 2018:
underpants
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@snytiger6 yep. I haven't owned underwear since the 90's.
Is the self an illusion?
Amisja comments on May 22, 2018:
I believe that human beings are arrogant to believe they are somehow superior to any other creature. If we believe in 'self' we may as well believe in a soul. We are a lump of jangled atoms, genetics, hormones and neurotransmitters.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
the same awareness that flows thru us flows thru them also. it's just they dont have the same tools we do to communicate and feel.
Amisja comments on May 22, 2018:
I believe that human beings are arrogant to believe they are somehow superior to any other creature. If we believe in 'self' we may as well believe in a soul. We are a lump of jangled atoms, genetics, hormones and neurotransmitters.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
the same awareness that flows thru us flows thru them also. it's just they dont have the same tools we do to communicate and feel.
Is the self an illusion?
doug6352 comments on May 22, 2018:
The self is real, the world is an illusion.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
yes!
doug6352 comments on May 22, 2018:
The self is real, the world is an illusion.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
yes!
Why is there so much anger here?
Clauddvon comments on May 22, 2018:
Yep, you seem to be confusing anger with conviction.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@Clauddvon good point. I call what I see anger because it makes me feel anger empathically. but thats in me ... you're right.
Clauddvon comments on May 22, 2018:
Yep, you seem to be confusing anger with conviction.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@Clauddvon good point. I call what I see anger because it makes me feel anger empathically. but thats in me ... you're right.
What happens when we die?
CaroleKay comments on May 22, 2018:
I kind of wanted to know what hell would be like, but I guess I'll miss out on that.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@CaroleKay I am the same way about heaven too. NOTHING that lasts for eternity would be good. except a nap.
CaroleKay comments on May 22, 2018:
I kind of wanted to know what hell would be like, but I guess I'll miss out on that.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@CaroleKay I am the same way about heaven too. NOTHING that lasts for eternity would be good. except a nap.
What happens when we die?
NothinnXpreVails comments on May 22, 2018:
Why would consciousness go on? Evidence for assertion?
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@NothinnXpreVails you will have to find that yourself. I would suggest meditation.
NothinnXpreVails comments on May 22, 2018:
Why would consciousness go on? Evidence for assertion?
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@NothinnXpreVails you will have to find that yourself. I would suggest meditation.
What happens when we die?
Jlangston70 comments on May 22, 2018:
Moves on where?
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
to the whole
Jlangston70 comments on May 22, 2018:
Moves on where?
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
to the whole
What happens when we die?
DenoPenno comments on May 22, 2018:
You die and your consciousness moves on. To where? Why is it that nobody has made contact with such consciousness? With this unanswered it makes me say you have no proof for your belief. It's the same wishful thinking that theists use because of their fear of death.
I had no answers or anxieties...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
there is no "where". awareness is everywhere. and as such it resides inside us filtering the world thru our senses and memories and karma.
DenoPenno comments on May 22, 2018:
You die and your consciousness moves on. To where? Why is it that nobody has made contact with such consciousness? With this unanswered it makes me say you have no proof for your belief. It's the same wishful thinking that theists use because of their fear of death.
I had no answers or anxieties...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
there is no "where". awareness is everywhere. and as such it resides inside us filtering the world thru our senses and memories and karma.
Why is there so much anger here?
DavidLaDeau comments on May 22, 2018:
I am angry that people believe that their God wants them to beat their children,
I'm angry that people kill people because their imaginary God tells them to,
I'm angry that Churches swindle money from the poor,
I am angry that religion teaches to hate and kill gay people.
I have many good ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
there could be truth to that.
DavidLaDeau comments on May 22, 2018:
I am angry that people believe that their God wants them to beat their children,
I'm angry that people kill people because their imaginary God tells them to,
I'm angry that Churches swindle money from the poor,
I am angry that religion teaches to hate and kill gay people.
I have many good ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
there could be truth to that.
What happens when we die?
NothinnXpreVails comments on May 22, 2018:
Why would consciousness go on? Evidence for assertion?
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
because the awareness doesnt have a component that can even die. its not biological
NothinnXpreVails comments on May 22, 2018:
Why would consciousness go on? Evidence for assertion?
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
because the awareness doesnt have a component that can even die. its not biological
I think I can help some of you.
Aivery comments on May 22, 2018:
Actually there is evidence that religion started long before this point at a site named Göbekli Tepe. The Fertile crescent was approximately 9000 BCE. (11,000 years ago) Göbekli Tepe was over 11,600 years ago. Making religion at least 600 years older than we thought. Many anthropologists and ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
thank you for putting this up. I dont think it completely dispells the hunter getherer/farmer explanation as much as modifies it. I really appreciate the info! I study this stuff daily.
Aivery comments on May 22, 2018:
Actually there is evidence that religion started long before this point at a site named Göbekli Tepe. The Fertile crescent was approximately 9000 BCE. (11,000 years ago) Göbekli Tepe was over 11,600 years ago. Making religion at least 600 years older than we thought. Many anthropologists and ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
thank you for putting this up. I dont think it completely dispells the hunter getherer/farmer explanation as much as modifies it. I really appreciate the info! I study this stuff daily.
Why is there so much anger here?
Clauddvon comments on May 22, 2018:
Yep, you seem to be confusing anger with conviction.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
I do see a lot of anger here as well.
Clauddvon comments on May 22, 2018:
Yep, you seem to be confusing anger with conviction.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
I do see a lot of anger here as well.
Why is there so much anger here?
jacpod comments on May 22, 2018:
I don't experience it, but then I would never engage with someone who was angry in a bullying way. My feelings about anger are that it is the only feelign that is a force for change. Fear,Sadness ,& Joy don't get anyone who is standing on your foot to get off Anger is the only force we have for ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
you should listen to the dalai lama talk about anger. he's been on a roll about that one lately.
jacpod comments on May 22, 2018:
I don't experience it, but then I would never engage with someone who was angry in a bullying way. My feelings about anger are that it is the only feelign that is a force for change. Fear,Sadness ,& Joy don't get anyone who is standing on your foot to get off Anger is the only force we have for ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
you should listen to the dalai lama talk about anger. he's been on a roll about that one lately.
What happens when we die?
CaroleKay comments on May 22, 2018:
I kind of wanted to know what hell would be like, but I guess I'll miss out on that.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
the idea of hell is so ignorant to begin with. you did something someone didnt like in the few years you were here so now you spend eternity in torment? if thats not a bunch of man-made bullshit I dont know what is
CaroleKay comments on May 22, 2018:
I kind of wanted to know what hell would be like, but I guess I'll miss out on that.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
the idea of hell is so ignorant to begin with. you did something someone didnt like in the few years you were here so now you spend eternity in torment? if thats not a bunch of man-made bullshit I dont know what is
Why is there so much anger here?
snytiger6 comments on May 22, 2018:
Are we reading the same posts?
I think that often text alone is misinterpreted by the persons own mood and viewpoint, as text lack vocal context and body language to help one interpret what was meant.
I see a lot of frustration on here myself, mostly having to do with politics, but I do not ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
I admit to seeing a lot of frustration ... but many are also trimmed with anger.
snytiger6 comments on May 22, 2018:
Are we reading the same posts?
I think that often text alone is misinterpreted by the persons own mood and viewpoint, as text lack vocal context and body language to help one interpret what was meant.
I see a lot of frustration on here myself, mostly having to do with politics, but I do not ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
I admit to seeing a lot of frustration ... but many are also trimmed with anger.
Why is there so much anger here?
David1955 comments on May 22, 2018:
The directness and adamance of position as @Slappy_Longarms nicely put it, is a reflection of the determination of many of us not to let the religious and religions kick our ass, as you phrased it.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@patchoullijulie I can understand that
David1955 comments on May 22, 2018:
The directness and adamance of position as @Slappy_Longarms nicely put it, is a reflection of the determination of many of us not to let the religious and religions kick our ass, as you phrased it.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@patchoullijulie I can understand that
Why is there so much anger here?
David1955 comments on May 22, 2018:
The directness and adamance of position as @Slappy_Longarms nicely put it, is a reflection of the determination of many of us not to let the religious and religions kick our ass, as you phrased it.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
I can understand that. My issue is ... why not just let churchies do their thing? They're the ones picking a harder path. I just smh over them.
David1955 comments on May 22, 2018:
The directness and adamance of position as @Slappy_Longarms nicely put it, is a reflection of the determination of many of us not to let the religious and religions kick our ass, as you phrased it.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
I can understand that. My issue is ... why not just let churchies do their thing? They're the ones picking a harder path. I just smh over them.
What happens when we die?
Fulishsage comments on May 22, 2018:
We are changed into what ever it is we will end up as, then be changed once again. Just as we are the product of a stars death, something will be the product of us. It's interesting to think that we are actually immortal.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
I dont believe WE are immortal in this sense. I do think that the awareness that exists inside us is though and I think it is all one big ether.
Fulishsage comments on May 22, 2018:
We are changed into what ever it is we will end up as, then be changed once again. Just as we are the product of a stars death, something will be the product of us. It's interesting to think that we are actually immortal.
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
I dont believe WE are immortal in this sense. I do think that the awareness that exists inside us is though and I think it is all one big ether.
What happens when we die?
moNOtheist comments on May 22, 2018:
It would seem to me that, once the animating electical flow has ceased, consciousness ends and with it, everything. How can consciousness move on? Without the brain, it cannot exist, in the same way that an electrical charge cannot exist outside the battery that houses it.
If human consciousness ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@AMGT I dont remember trying to convince you. I wasn't proselytizing. I said this is what I believe. My reasons for it are my own - after decades of study and years of meditation. I have chased religion step by step all the way back to early man discovering a life other than as a hunter-gatherer. This proved to me that it is a construct of man and how ... but there was never some "unsmoking gun" to delegitimize religion or some piece of evidence that says "all religions are wrong - sincerely, some reputable source". But the lack of any substantiation does tell me things. Asking me to prove things we can't describe now is like asking a caveman that air exists. It is near impossible to prove a negative. Believe or not believe what you want. I choose happiness.
moNOtheist comments on May 22, 2018:
It would seem to me that, once the animating electical flow has ceased, consciousness ends and with it, everything. How can consciousness move on? Without the brain, it cannot exist, in the same way that an electrical charge cannot exist outside the battery that houses it.
If human consciousness ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@AMGT I dont remember trying to convince you. I wasn't proselytizing. I said this is what I believe. My reasons for it are my own - after decades of study and years of meditation. I have chased religion step by step all the way back to early man discovering a life other than as a hunter-gatherer. This proved to me that it is a construct of man and how ... but there was never some "unsmoking gun" to delegitimize religion or some piece of evidence that says "all religions are wrong - sincerely, some reputable source". But the lack of any substantiation does tell me things. Asking me to prove things we can't describe now is like asking a caveman that air exists. It is near impossible to prove a negative. Believe or not believe what you want. I choose happiness.
What happens when we die?
moNOtheist comments on May 22, 2018:
It would seem to me that, once the animating electical flow has ceased, consciousness ends and with it, everything. How can consciousness move on? Without the brain, it cannot exist, in the same way that an electrical charge cannot exist outside the battery that houses it.
If human consciousness ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@AMGT there's no reason for you to be mean. just because you dont have the tenacity to learn and grow doesn't mean you should disparage others. your anger will never find an answer, it will only increase your suffering. Use some self-control ... take the first step ... show compassion. damyata datta dayadhvam. Maybe if you educated yourself a little more you might understand. Check out "The Wasteland".
moNOtheist comments on May 22, 2018:
It would seem to me that, once the animating electical flow has ceased, consciousness ends and with it, everything. How can consciousness move on? Without the brain, it cannot exist, in the same way that an electrical charge cannot exist outside the battery that houses it.
If human consciousness ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@AMGT there's no reason for you to be mean. just because you dont have the tenacity to learn and grow doesn't mean you should disparage others. your anger will never find an answer, it will only increase your suffering. Use some self-control ... take the first step ... show compassion. damyata datta dayadhvam. Maybe if you educated yourself a little more you might understand. Check out "The Wasteland".
What happens when we die?
moNOtheist comments on May 22, 2018:
It would seem to me that, once the animating electical flow has ceased, consciousness ends and with it, everything. How can consciousness move on? Without the brain, it cannot exist, in the same way that an electrical charge cannot exist outside the battery that houses it.
If human consciousness ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
damyata datta dayadhvam
moNOtheist comments on May 22, 2018:
It would seem to me that, once the animating electical flow has ceased, consciousness ends and with it, everything. How can consciousness move on? Without the brain, it cannot exist, in the same way that an electrical charge cannot exist outside the battery that houses it.
If human consciousness ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
damyata datta dayadhvam
What happens when we die?
happyguy comments on May 22, 2018:
When you die, you die... Why is this a question on an atheist forum?
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
I am sorry you dont like my questions. ask your own if you dont like mine.
happyguy comments on May 22, 2018:
When you die, you die... Why is this a question on an atheist forum?
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
I am sorry you dont like my questions. ask your own if you dont like mine.
What happens when we die?
moNOtheist comments on May 22, 2018:
It would seem to me that, once the animating electical flow has ceased, consciousness ends and with it, everything. How can consciousness move on? Without the brain, it cannot exist, in the same way that an electrical charge cannot exist outside the battery that houses it.
If human consciousness ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@AMGT spare me the drama - death is personal to all of us. I have already been dead twice and am living in the middle of a medical death sentence now.
Proof of the heretofore unknown? You think you are unique in demanding proof to the answer of the unanswerable. There is so much we have yet to understand - we are millenia away from an answer in the form you seek. All we can do now is hypo-test and find alternatives that fit.
You are welcome to believe as you will. I will observe the teachings of the Upanishads, the Dhammapada, and the Gita. I will live my life by three simple words ... damyata datta dayadhvam.
moNOtheist comments on May 22, 2018:
It would seem to me that, once the animating electical flow has ceased, consciousness ends and with it, everything. How can consciousness move on? Without the brain, it cannot exist, in the same way that an electrical charge cannot exist outside the battery that houses it.
If human consciousness ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
@AMGT spare me the drama - death is personal to all of us. I have already been dead twice and am living in the middle of a medical death sentence now.
Proof of the heretofore unknown? You think you are unique in demanding proof to the answer of the unanswerable. There is so much we have yet to understand - we are millenia away from an answer in the form you seek. All we can do now is hypo-test and find alternatives that fit.
You are welcome to believe as you will. I will observe the teachings of the Upanishads, the Dhammapada, and the Gita. I will live my life by three simple words ... damyata datta dayadhvam.
What happens when we die?
moNOtheist comments on May 22, 2018:
It would seem to me that, once the animating electical flow has ceased, consciousness ends and with it, everything. How can consciousness move on? Without the brain, it cannot exist, in the same way that an electrical charge cannot exist outside the battery that houses it.
If human consciousness ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
1. we are awareness apart from all our biologicals
2. this awareness flows through everything
3. the biological components provide memory and sensory data - but our awareness if the screen it is cast upon
4. yes it is in animals etc... and it does "move on". it is always and any individuality we feel is merely a facade. we return to the ether of awareness.
moNOtheist comments on May 22, 2018:
It would seem to me that, once the animating electical flow has ceased, consciousness ends and with it, everything. How can consciousness move on? Without the brain, it cannot exist, in the same way that an electrical charge cannot exist outside the battery that houses it.
If human consciousness ...
JeffMesser replies on May 22, 2018:
1. we are awareness apart from all our biologicals
2. this awareness flows through everything
3. the biological components provide memory and sensory data - but our awareness if the screen it is cast upon
4. yes it is in animals etc... and it does "move on". it is always and any individuality we feel is merely a facade. we return to the ether of awareness.
Thich Nhat Hanh: What is Nirvana and How Does It End Suffering?
JeffMesser comments on May 21, 2018:
This is the debate that is so hard for me to engage in with my SE Asian buddhist friends. They are so bull-headed about saying "no self" that they won't even listen to my perspective. When I stepped back to examine the situation I understood the Buddha's perspective and exactly why he chose not to ...
JeffMesser replies on May 21, 2018:
@AwarenessNow as Kierkegaard said "Once you label me you negate me"
JeffMesser comments on May 21, 2018:
This is the debate that is so hard for me to engage in with my SE Asian buddhist friends. They are so bull-headed about saying "no self" that they won't even listen to my perspective. When I stepped back to examine the situation I understood the Buddha's perspective and exactly why he chose not to ...
JeffMesser replies on May 21, 2018:
@AwarenessNow as Kierkegaard said "Once you label me you negate me"
Are there any Democrats out there that aren't afraid to declare yourselves?
JeffMesser comments on May 21, 2018:
ashamed of what?
JeffMesser replies on May 21, 2018:
@the_antichrist and what "truth" would that be?
JeffMesser comments on May 21, 2018:
ashamed of what?
JeffMesser replies on May 21, 2018:
@the_antichrist and what "truth" would that be?
I have been using an old PC with Windows XP for years now and I was a happy camper until last week.
JeffMesser comments on May 20, 2018:
I use chrome exclusively on this win10 computer.
JeffMesser replies on May 20, 2018:
@IamNobody yes it was preinstalled. but I have used chrome on winxp and win8 as well. why are you using Bing instead of Google? sounds like you have a lot of bloatware. never use bing.
JeffMesser comments on May 20, 2018:
I use chrome exclusively on this win10 computer.
JeffMesser replies on May 20, 2018:
@IamNobody yes it was preinstalled. but I have used chrome on winxp and win8 as well. why are you using Bing instead of Google? sounds like you have a lot of bloatware. never use bing.
After taking a course in World Religions I felt that if I had to choose I would be a Buddhist.
AwarenessNow comments on May 17, 2018:
I was a Buddhist for 10 years. Now I'm not anything really. I do listen to people like Eckhart Tolle sometimes. They seem to have pretty good insight into human nature in a secular way, although some may consider it 'spiritual'.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2018:
@AwarenessNow I understand. The lists and close-mindedness of SE Asian buddhists that I dealt with drove me away from a typical teaching situation. I decided guided, independent study suited me best and it has worked very well for me to date.
I spent nearly 30 years finding my way. Through all the searching and study over numerous religious and philosophical influences I finally gleaned one rule on my own that guided me to the light ... if your belief set excludes anyone then you need a better belief set. This is how I found my way to Buddhism and study of the Upanishads and the Dhammapada were my tools.
I have made sure to include animal biology, psychology, quantum physics, sociology, and a cadre of other topics in my studies - an approach that I found support in from the Dalai Lama (he even talked about it last night). I have found a biological basis for empathy and, thus, the golden rule as well as a biological tie to quantum mechanics so that probabilities changed may in fact be influenced to affect cellular activity in the brain. I know that everything meshes together to formulate the whole - we just dont know it all yet. So I seek beliefs that encompass everything. A string-theory of secular religion.
AwarenessNow comments on May 17, 2018:
I was a Buddhist for 10 years. Now I'm not anything really. I do listen to people like Eckhart Tolle sometimes. They seem to have pretty good insight into human nature in a secular way, although some may consider it 'spiritual'.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2018:
@AwarenessNow I understand. The lists and close-mindedness of SE Asian buddhists that I dealt with drove me away from a typical teaching situation. I decided guided, independent study suited me best and it has worked very well for me to date.
I spent nearly 30 years finding my way. Through all the searching and study over numerous religious and philosophical influences I finally gleaned one rule on my own that guided me to the light ... if your belief set excludes anyone then you need a better belief set. This is how I found my way to Buddhism and study of the Upanishads and the Dhammapada were my tools.
I have made sure to include animal biology, psychology, quantum physics, sociology, and a cadre of other topics in my studies - an approach that I found support in from the Dalai Lama (he even talked about it last night). I have found a biological basis for empathy and, thus, the golden rule as well as a biological tie to quantum mechanics so that probabilities changed may in fact be influenced to affect cellular activity in the brain. I know that everything meshes together to formulate the whole - we just dont know it all yet. So I seek beliefs that encompass everything. A string-theory of secular religion.
Texas Lt. Gov. Says ‘Too Many Entrances’ Possibly To Blame In School Shooting | HuffPost
JeffMesser comments on May 18, 2018:
I understand his point. It's not a 2nd amendment issue. It's a general security issue for schools.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2018:
@SallyMc damyata datta dayadhvam
JeffMesser comments on May 18, 2018:
I understand his point. It's not a 2nd amendment issue. It's a general security issue for schools.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2018:
@SallyMc damyata datta dayadhvam
Texas Lt. Gov. Says ‘Too Many Entrances’ Possibly To Blame In School Shooting | HuffPost
JeffMesser comments on May 18, 2018:
I understand his point. It's not a 2nd amendment issue. It's a general security issue for schools.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2018:
@SallyMc I am in OKC so please dont try to instruct me on underfunded schools. Texas schools put up signs to recruit OKC teachers. I have been fighting that battle for years. Just as I fought the school board battle when children were kidnapped from Southgate/Rippetoe and tried to take others from Plaza Towers so we addressed the security issue - just like we addressed it again when the last school commissioner was elected and brought up the issue. I know what I am talking about. You are speaking from a knee-jerk position.
JeffMesser comments on May 18, 2018:
I understand his point. It's not a 2nd amendment issue. It's a general security issue for schools.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2018:
@SallyMc I am in OKC so please dont try to instruct me on underfunded schools. Texas schools put up signs to recruit OKC teachers. I have been fighting that battle for years. Just as I fought the school board battle when children were kidnapped from Southgate/Rippetoe and tried to take others from Plaza Towers so we addressed the security issue - just like we addressed it again when the last school commissioner was elected and brought up the issue. I know what I am talking about. You are speaking from a knee-jerk position.
After taking a course in World Religions I felt that if I had to choose I would be a Buddhist.
AwarenessNow comments on May 17, 2018:
I was a Buddhist for 10 years. Now I'm not anything really. I do listen to people like Eckhart Tolle sometimes. They seem to have pretty good insight into human nature in a secular way, although some may consider it 'spiritual'.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2018:
why do you say you're not a buddhist now? I am not trying to pry so please forgive the intrusion. The reason I ask is that I have grown beyond my initial dharma and consider my beliefs more vedic in nature than buddhist given my views on the self. I just wondered if for some reason you grew beyond it also.
AwarenessNow comments on May 17, 2018:
I was a Buddhist for 10 years. Now I'm not anything really. I do listen to people like Eckhart Tolle sometimes. They seem to have pretty good insight into human nature in a secular way, although some may consider it 'spiritual'.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2018:
why do you say you're not a buddhist now? I am not trying to pry so please forgive the intrusion. The reason I ask is that I have grown beyond my initial dharma and consider my beliefs more vedic in nature than buddhist given my views on the self. I just wondered if for some reason you grew beyond it also.
Texas Lt. Gov. Says ‘Too Many Entrances’ Possibly To Blame In School Shooting | HuffPost
JeffMesser comments on May 18, 2018:
I understand his point. It's not a 2nd amendment issue. It's a general security issue for schools.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2018:
@SallyMc you are so blinded by your rage that you aren't thinking clearly. I have no problems with limiting guns. Thats not the point to his comment. Guns or no guns you need to build schools with greater security in mind. I don't support guns either. Your shortcoming is you keep trying to argue instead of thinking.
JeffMesser comments on May 18, 2018:
I understand his point. It's not a 2nd amendment issue. It's a general security issue for schools.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2018:
@SallyMc you are so blinded by your rage that you aren't thinking clearly. I have no problems with limiting guns. Thats not the point to his comment. Guns or no guns you need to build schools with greater security in mind. I don't support guns either. Your shortcoming is you keep trying to argue instead of thinking.
Texas Lt. Gov. Says ‘Too Many Entrances’ Possibly To Blame In School Shooting | HuffPost
JeffMesser comments on May 18, 2018:
I understand his point. It's not a 2nd amendment issue. It's a general security issue for schools.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2018:
@SallyMc excuse me . . rude much? dont try to paint me as some sort of ammosexual. It's not much of a logical leap to think that better security at the schools is also a big consideration - no matter what the views on weapons. Ingress and egress points are a major concern for any building that needs to be able to lock down. you need to temper your temper and think more.
JeffMesser comments on May 18, 2018:
I understand his point. It's not a 2nd amendment issue. It's a general security issue for schools.
JeffMesser replies on May 19, 2018:
@SallyMc excuse me . . rude much? dont try to paint me as some sort of ammosexual. It's not much of a logical leap to think that better security at the schools is also a big consideration - no matter what the views on weapons. Ingress and egress points are a major concern for any building that needs to be able to lock down. you need to temper your temper and think more.
After taking a course in World Religions I felt that if I had to choose I would be a Buddhist.
JeffMesser comments on May 17, 2018:
I was a buddhist and now I consider myself vedic.
JeffMesser replies on May 17, 2018:
@srikanth just as you said. when I sought refuge in the jewel it was the vedas and the upanishads that showed me the way.
JeffMesser comments on May 17, 2018:
I was a buddhist and now I consider myself vedic.
JeffMesser replies on May 17, 2018:
@srikanth just as you said. when I sought refuge in the jewel it was the vedas and the upanishads that showed me the way.
Let's say "God" does exist.
JeffMesser comments on May 17, 2018:
because we are a patriarchal society. nothing more.
JeffMesser replies on May 17, 2018:
@Redcupcoffee it is what it is. not saying it's justified. meh.
JeffMesser comments on May 17, 2018:
because we are a patriarchal society. nothing more.
JeffMesser replies on May 17, 2018:
@Redcupcoffee it is what it is. not saying it's justified. meh.
After taking a course in World Religions I felt that if I had to choose I would be a Buddhist.
stinkeye_a comments on May 17, 2018:
Very much the same here. I went through a period of "religion-shopping", in which I thought I had to find one, "off-the-rack", so to speak, that "fits". Now I just cobble my own franken-philosophies from whatever spare parts appeal to me, and tailor to suit. Buddhism provides the lion's share of ...
JeffMesser replies on May 17, 2018:
thats what I have done also. I followed the Buddha's comment about making an island of my own. I DO believe in a self and believe our consciousness returns to the whole when our body fails.
stinkeye_a comments on May 17, 2018:
Very much the same here. I went through a period of "religion-shopping", in which I thought I had to find one, "off-the-rack", so to speak, that "fits". Now I just cobble my own franken-philosophies from whatever spare parts appeal to me, and tailor to suit. Buddhism provides the lion's share of ...
JeffMesser replies on May 17, 2018:
thats what I have done also. I followed the Buddha's comment about making an island of my own. I DO believe in a self and believe our consciousness returns to the whole when our body fails.
Icelandic archaeology
andygee comments on May 15, 2018:
Just curious, s anything old enough in Iceland to be archaic?
JeffMesser replies on May 15, 2018:
your momma?
andygee comments on May 15, 2018:
Just curious, s anything old enough in Iceland to be archaic?
JeffMesser replies on May 15, 2018:
your momma?
I was watching a documentary about tattoos and society's reaction to people who took it to the ...
JeffMesser comments on May 11, 2018:
Meh. tattoos are all about ego. I work on getting rid of ego so no.
JeffMesser replies on May 13, 2018:
@SKETCHYZOMBIE yes. Surely I am the ignorant one.
JeffMesser comments on May 11, 2018:
Meh. tattoos are all about ego. I work on getting rid of ego so no.
JeffMesser replies on May 13, 2018:
@SKETCHYZOMBIE yes. Surely I am the ignorant one.
I was watching a documentary about tattoos and society's reaction to people who took it to the ...
JeffMesser comments on May 11, 2018:
Meh. tattoos are all about ego. I work on getting rid of ego so no.
JeffMesser replies on May 12, 2018:
hey, I dont expect others to meet my standards. not giving in to my ego is MY thing, not yours. you guys can feed your egos all you want. c'est la vie.
JeffMesser comments on May 11, 2018:
Meh. tattoos are all about ego. I work on getting rid of ego so no.
JeffMesser replies on May 12, 2018:
hey, I dont expect others to meet my standards. not giving in to my ego is MY thing, not yours. you guys can feed your egos all you want. c'est la vie.
10 good things Trump has done his first year in office
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JustChris comments on May 9, 2018:
Given the progressives a wake up call.
JeffMesser replies on May 9, 2018:
this is how I view it also. this was the horrid result necessary to get past the apathy.
JustChris comments on May 9, 2018:
Given the progressives a wake up call.
JeffMesser replies on May 9, 2018:
this is how I view it also. this was the horrid result necessary to get past the apathy.
How long...?
UsernameFail comments on May 2, 2018:
43 days
JeffMesser replies on May 2, 2018:
oh ... the horror!
UsernameFail comments on May 2, 2018:
43 days
JeffMesser replies on May 2, 2018:
oh ... the horror!
All religions were invented by opportunist leaders who wanted to exploit human fear and ignorance! I...
JeffMesser comments on Apr 30, 2018:
religion was just a variable of the rules early communities gave to their members as we changed from hunter/gatherers to farmers.
JeffMesser replies on Apr 30, 2018:
@luclaviolette well, that shows a church group that is operating in a selfish manner ... like today's evangelicals in the US. But it doesn't say that religions are only created to be bad.
JeffMesser comments on Apr 30, 2018:
religion was just a variable of the rules early communities gave to their members as we changed from hunter/gatherers to farmers.
JeffMesser replies on Apr 30, 2018:
@luclaviolette well, that shows a church group that is operating in a selfish manner ... like today's evangelicals in the US. But it doesn't say that religions are only created to be bad.
Name THREE things about yourself and one not true. Let me guess which one's not true.
JeffMesser comments on Apr 18, 2018:
1. I saw Michael Jackson in Nice, France on the "Bad" tour.
2. I saw Jethro Tull in Rome
3. I saw Ray Charles in Toulonnes and had dinner with him and his manager.
4. I saw the Violent Femmes in Sydney, Va Beach, Orlando, and OKC (3x) at the Bowery.
JeffMesser replies on Apr 19, 2018:
oh please. that part is certainly true. he was high as a kite. The lie was part of 4 - seeing the Femmes at the Bowery THREE times. Every Okie punk of the 80's knows they were only at the Bowery twice.
JeffMesser comments on Apr 18, 2018:
1. I saw Michael Jackson in Nice, France on the "Bad" tour.
2. I saw Jethro Tull in Rome
3. I saw Ray Charles in Toulonnes and had dinner with him and his manager.
4. I saw the Violent Femmes in Sydney, Va Beach, Orlando, and OKC (3x) at the Bowery.
JeffMesser replies on Apr 19, 2018:
oh please. that part is certainly true. he was high as a kite. The lie was part of 4 - seeing the Femmes at the Bowery THREE times. Every Okie punk of the 80's knows they were only at the Bowery twice.
Would you like a different perspective?
BookDeath comments on Apr 16, 2018:
While we might want to get all warm and fuzzy over this and wax poetic over the many virtues of the Dalai Lama, let us not forget that Buddhism IS a religion like any other and just as capable of extremist violence. Witness what has been happening to the Rohingya in Myanmar: they are being ...
JeffMesser replies on Apr 16, 2018:
oh certainly. I have a more internet-based sangha now and the close-mindedness towards eastern beliefs that I often feel in Oklahoma is matched only by the same close-mindedness I have found from Buddhist arahats in Sri Lanks, Thailand, Malaysia, India, and Viet Nam. So closed that they havent evolved their views on certain things, such as science, over the past 100 years. It's like speaking to someone from the past. And they are very persistent and stubborn in retaining their versions of the universe despite the most basic of current scientific knowledge. But those are not representative of either Buddhism generally or the dalai specifically.
BookDeath comments on Apr 16, 2018:
While we might want to get all warm and fuzzy over this and wax poetic over the many virtues of the Dalai Lama, let us not forget that Buddhism IS a religion like any other and just as capable of extremist violence. Witness what has been happening to the Rohingya in Myanmar: they are being ...
JeffMesser replies on Apr 16, 2018:
oh certainly. I have a more internet-based sangha now and the close-mindedness towards eastern beliefs that I often feel in Oklahoma is matched only by the same close-mindedness I have found from Buddhist arahats in Sri Lanks, Thailand, Malaysia, India, and Viet Nam. So closed that they havent evolved their views on certain things, such as science, over the past 100 years. It's like speaking to someone from the past. And they are very persistent and stubborn in retaining their versions of the universe despite the most basic of current scientific knowledge. But those are not representative of either Buddhism generally or the dalai specifically.
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