After having a lively argument with a Trump supporter at the park I’m going to report a new rumor ...

JeffMurray comments on Oct 11, 2020:

None of that matters. There is nothing he could do they wouldn't rationalize.

Something occurs to me that I don’t want to believe but I think it may be true.

JeffMurray comments on Oct 10, 2020:

I have to disagree. No one has more scandals than Trump, and his people still love him beyond belief.

Some of you may think I’m “nutty”, but I thought I’d share this here anyways for those that ...

JeffMurray comments on Oct 9, 2020:

May I ask where the thought 'every life has a purpose' came from?

Has anyone here looked st the Libertarian and Green party candidates?

JeffMurray comments on Oct 8, 2020:

Duverger's Law dictates a two party system. All the people over the years that tried to "send a message" stupidly wasted their vote. Please read about it, realize you'd be wasting your vote and your time, and vote for real. Unless you'd vote for Trump. In that case, I was just kidding and you should totally send a message that we need more/better choices!!

I would like to submit the idea that religion IS politics.

JeffMurray comments on Oct 7, 2020:

I don't think "everything of politics" is as accurate as "anything can be politicized". In 2019, no one would have said wearing medical equipment to protect against contacting a deadly virus was a political issue. Now, unbelievably, it is.

It’s all probability. Why believe in “destiny”?

JeffMurray comments on Oct 4, 2020:

Depends on your definition of destiny. If you mean predestined (but unknowable because of the innumerable variables) as a result of pure cause and effect, then yes, I believe in it. If you mean there's simply a goal and stuff "has to happen to get you there" then I'd agree it's akin religious beliefs. This is similar to how I talk about the varying definitions of luck. It's a descriptive word for what has happened (Hank is lucky because he won the lottery), not a predictive phenomenon for what will (Hank is so fucking lucky he's probably going to win the lottery).

You know, I really didn't think it would work! Maybe there's something to Voodoo.

JeffMurray comments on Oct 3, 2020:

I just fucking Meme'd this and sent it to a bunch of people. You're hilarious.

I am my own priestess of atheism, and only for me not anyone else.

JeffMurray comments on Sep 29, 2020:

What are we taking about?

So where do you get your morality from if you’re an atheist?

JeffMurray comments on Sep 29, 2020:

I point out that they don't believe all of the things their book tells them (like stoning their disobedient son or selling their daughter into sexual slavery etc.) and that they made these decisions with their own moral compass that exists above their belief in [some of] the Bible.

Appeal to Faith | Ram - New Delhi, India | Atheist Experience 21.29 - YouTube

JeffMurray comments on Sep 28, 2020:

Some religious points of view should technically also breed hopelessness...

In Resurfaced Clip, Amy Coney Barrett Says it Would've Been Inappropriate for Obama to Nominate ...

JeffMurray comments on Sep 27, 2020:

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Amy Coney Barrett: GOP sells 'Notorious ACB' T-shirts after nomination

JeffMurray comments on Sep 27, 2020:

Disgusting. I wish there was a button to push to make them all disappear forever.

So a God thingie jack slapped this illogical atheist with some intellectual whiz bang.

JeffMurray comments on Sep 27, 2020:

What?

Things Exist Without Being Tangable | Ram - New Delhi, India | Atheist Experience 21.08 - YouTube

JeffMurray comments on Sep 26, 2020:

I do have to commend the caller for essentially admitting he was wrong. Most people, even here, will not do that.

REMINDER: Tonight, Thursday, September 24th is our next ZOOM CHAT NIGHT at 7:00 PM EST USA.

JeffMurray comments on Sep 26, 2020:

How do these things go? Is there a topic like a book club, or what's the deal?

Berkeley, California, bans candy, junk food at grocery checkout.

JeffMurray comments on Sep 26, 2020:

I have a problem with the government controlling how otherwise legal products are sold and marketed. It's shit like this that provides certain people the ability to make claims that liberals want a nanny state that controls every aspect of our lives. When it's about stuff for the public good, like the banning of trans fats, I understand and support it; people cannot police themselves in regards to stuff like that. But there's no inherent danger from marketing that way. Heck a lot of stores already have the option of "junk free" checkout lines, so if that's an option people want, they'll frequent the stores that provide it. If anything * should * be banned at grocery store checkouts, it should be those fuckin' conspiracy theory rags. This country has enough actual fake news.

My smoking, drinking, pregnant "great christian" neighbor (from hell) just puked on her front porch ...

JeffMurray comments on Sep 25, 2020:

Jesus will protect fetuses from contaminants. Duh.

Everyday, ICE picks up people and deports them to god knows where.

JeffMurray comments on Sep 23, 2020:

The American experiment is over. Think about all you just detailed and how dug in the heels of those people are, and try to imagine a scenario where we as a people collectively reverse the trends and elevate as one to a cohesive, harmonious society that cares for one another in ALL aspects of human life, * as it would require protecting the environment, too. * Can you even contemplate that scenario? I can't. The only thing I can see is Americans continuing to become more partisan and divided, hateful, hurtful, destructive, myopic, and short-sighted (likely as we devolve into an authoritarian nation).

If something causes psychological harm, it's not harmless.

JeffMurray comments on Sep 23, 2020:

Animals are just as selfish as humans. Also, I don't know that I'd classify looking out for other non-related people selfish.

Debate forums?

JeffMurray comments on Sep 22, 2020:

I miss them too. Mostly I used collegeclub.com and, many years later, MySpace. If you find something, let me know.

“There is really only one question you ever need to direct at someone to work out whether or not ...

JeffMurray comments on Sep 22, 2020:

"Goodness" is on a continuum. I believe how good someone is directly relates to how high the threshold is for letting their innate selfishness dictate their actions.

"Anti-Theist"

JeffMurray comments on Sep 21, 2020:

I had never classified myself as one before, but I suppose I probably should.

Why do people believe in the devil when it’s obviously a myth?

JeffMurray comments on Sep 21, 2020:

Don't let it make you angry... People, including you, can't control what they believe.

Your "Mind" Isn't Confined to Your Brain. Isn't this an interesting idea?

JeffMurray comments on Sep 20, 2020:

Nothing about that definition, or subsequent attempt at explanation, shows any part of the mind is outside the person. Experiences, sensory input, interactions, etc. all cause changes within your brain. If it were the actually the external event, rather than the internal changes resultant from the experience, events you were unaware of and physically unaffected by that happened where you * could * have experienced them would still affect you. There is just no evidence to suggest this is the case.

Evangelicals Refuse To Support Biden Because Kamala ‘Isn’t A Christian Name’ | Michael Stone

JeffMurray comments on Sep 19, 2020:

Consistency is not their strong suit... https://youtu.be/kAgTZSJ4jo8

Any time one allows absolutes to exist in the mind, that person has joined the ranks of the ...

JeffMurray comments on Sep 19, 2020:

The Flat and Young Earthers are jumping up and down...

I had an interesting notion.

JeffMurray comments on Sep 16, 2020:

If I had to bet, I'd think most of them believe the stupid shit they espouse. And to be honest, it would probably be worse if they didn't and were willfully touting such idiocy.

My daughter's adopted child is 12 years old.

JeffMurray comments on Sep 11, 2020:

I was just think about how I was going to handle any death in my family considering I've been avoiding almost everyone for the past several years. The last death-related function I went to was my uncle's memorial (one of only 3 people in my mom's generation that I talked to). One of my mom's brothers told me to thank god or pray to god that something something, I don't really remember because I was trying to ignore him anyway. When I didn't respond, he said it again and called me out on why I wasn't agreeing. I quietly told him that I don't believe in God. He started freaking out, and involved his brother in the conversation. My other uncle got all despondent and said he knew already and how sad he was about it like he found out I had a horrible disease. Anyway, I'm thinking I'm just going to skip them and catch up with my cousins a day or so later or something. I'm open to suggestions though...

Homeschool religion

JeffMurray comments on Sep 10, 2020:

I say spend the time teaching logic courses. It's way more practical, and IMO can do just as much or more to promote free thinking. There is plenty of time for a comparative religion course later (maybe from someone in the field).

As far as I can tell, atheists are the most depressed and negative-minded people on this site.

JeffMurray comments on Sep 9, 2020:

I'm an atheist. I believe I have nothing to look forward to. I am depressed. However, none of these things caused any of the others. You are mistaking correlation for causation. Also, I am not "negative-minded". I actually describe myself as depressingly optimistic. I so often believe I can bring about a positive outcome that it is increasingly depressing when things don't work out the way they should if people were rational and intelligent.

The church should stay the HELL out of politics. [yahoo.]

JeffMurray comments on Sep 8, 2020:

If no one is going to make them...

Does the evidence for reincarnation prove (at least some kind of) 'god' exists?

JeffMurray comments on Sep 8, 2020:

I read and watched some from the links provided, and that's just not evidence. People have kidnapped and murderd their own children for attention, so I wouldn't put something like this past anyone. And if you're going to do it at all, why not make it as crazy and convincing as possible?

Does being an agnostic mean that you’re on the wall or you lack acceptance?

JeffMurray comments on Sep 8, 2020:

I agree with your sentiments. Ultimately, you will not reach a consensus of definitions of those words here. For me it seems simple. Agnosticism deals with with you can know. Atheism deals with what you believe. Since no one can know whether god exists, EVERYONE * should * be agnostic. Then if and what you believe will determine theist or atheist.

From a talk on Forgiveness [agnostic.com]

JeffMurray comments on Sep 8, 2020:

I've heard this nonsense a million times. One woman harped on me so much about how forgiveness is for me and how you can choose how you feel about things. When she was devastated after a horrible family incident resulted in the breakup of her marriage, it took everything in me not to tell her to choose to be happy about her loss and forgive her father and husband. You can't choose how you feel. Saying 'I forgive you' is not the same as actually forgiving someone.

How nice! Or not.

JeffMurray comments on Sep 7, 2020:

The whole concept of giving a cross in a pocket to someone defeats the purpose of the poem. What idiots.

If Trump thinks this will all be over soon he best go out and buy himself some art, he likes ...

JeffMurray comments on Sep 6, 2020:

"Is This a 1962 Vision of Life in 2022?" https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/singoletta-future-car/

I got sick of watching the news about Trump, so I put it on a movie channel, Star Wars, then it ...

JeffMurray comments on Sep 6, 2020:

And here I thought you were going to go for a Jabba the Hutt reference about a fat pile of shit that rapes women.

I was listening on the radio to a bit of a philosophy last evening where the person being ...

JeffMurray comments on Sep 5, 2020:

Makes sense to me.

The first rule of fight club is no damned fight club. Who's with me?

JeffMurray comments on Sep 5, 2020:

I never want to fight. I'd much rather debate, but too many people won't adhere to the rules of it. Years ago, a friend and I debated things all the time. Only one time ever did we fail to find a winner, but the premises were filled with several crazy theoretical givens. To this day, I think that if everyone on Earth could interact like we did, we'd have almost no problems.

Can an atheist be a proud Secular Christian?

JeffMurray comments on Sep 5, 2020:

I heard that Hitler was a stickler for dining etiquette and table manners, so since many learned those habits in that context, I suppose we should call them polite or dignified Nazis. You can use shorthand like this, but you're going to waste more time on all the invited questions than it's worth.

Multiple times now I have written private messages only to have them disappear when I hit send.

JeffMurray comments on Sep 5, 2020:

It's not only this site. I strongly recommend typing in a Word Doc on OneDrive or a draft in a Gmail email because it auto saves. I type here because my phone has yet to fail to let me select all and copy, which I almost always do before posting or sending.

Can a God Create Itself?

JeffMurray comments on Sep 4, 2020:

This is all well and good in theory, but where we are as a species makes me think it is all but impossible for humans to survive each other long enough to realize this theoretical potential. Which also begs the question: to what point and purpose? Humans getting to another planet means we're just going to destroy another planet and be back in this spot again in another X years. Humans, and all other life on Earth (and anywhere else it may exist) is all accidental, and I see no need or purpose for us to perpetuate the results of that accident here or anywhere else.

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JeffMurray comments on Sep 4, 2020:

There are many good points already listed, but let's also not forget that the organized groups we don't have don't tithe the shit out of a flock of unquestioning servants amassing wealth in the hundreds of billions of dollars and need ways to justify ourselves as a tax-free entity.

I thought this concept was brilliant.

JeffMurray comments on Sep 4, 2020:

I wonder who decides which religions are part of "all religions"?

Can an atheist and an Evangelical be friends?

JeffMurray comments on Aug 31, 2020:

To me, I think it all depends on whether or not they talk about it and/or if I know horrible things about their beliefs. If I know someone thinks abortion should be illegal even in cases where the mother's life is as risk, I don't think that's something I can ignore.

“Christians Against Dinosaurs” Target Arizona McDonald’s T.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 31, 2020:

I'd be kinda sad if that accidentally worked. I wish my local McD's had a giant ass T-Rex.

Chew on this for a while, then tell us what you think. [patheos.com]

JeffMurray comments on Aug 30, 2020:

When you drive, sorry, have your mommy drive you over state lines with a loaded gun you're not legally allowed to have and subsequently get into an altercation where you kill two people, I don't think you can really claim self defense anymore.

A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: I'm sure most of you don't do this, but if you do or know of someone...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 30, 2020:

I think there are plenty of reasons for it. Let's say you'd be happy with $50, you list for $60 OBO so that the buyer feels like they're getting a discount and it creates a sense of urgency, (i.e. "Oh, they're willing to take X% less, if I don't move on that they're going to agree on a price with someone else") especially considering even if you don't list something as OBO, people will try to negotiate you down anyway. Or if you just don't care and you want the item gone as soon as possible. I've sold things that I was going to trash. The amount of money I got was completely irrelevant because the real value was in not having to pay the fee at the dump and not have to load it up and drive it there (plus rent a truck like one of the items would have required). If the OBO makes them feel like they're getting a good deal, it may move the item and/or move it faster. If there's one constant, however, it's that there's no accounting for thought patterns of the masses that make no sense to logical people.

What do you think? Who is Dr. Antony Flew? [baileylineroad.com]

JeffMurray comments on Aug 30, 2020:

Anyone convinced by the watchmaker analogy doesn't understand evolution AT ALL.

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JeffMurray comments on Aug 30, 2020:

The sad part is that if this was satire, it would be friggin hilarious.

COMMUNITY GUIDELINE DISCUSSION: WHAT ARE OUR "RULES"?

JeffMurray comments on Aug 30, 2020:

Interesting, blocks don't exist in the Senate. That's actually a good thing, and completely in line with what I was saying in the comment section of my most recent post. I know there are several people that blame me for what happened on two of the types of posts alluded to at the top, but I think if they look with fresh eyes and intellectual honesty, they'll see I did not violate the guidelines, while [some of] the people that reported me certainly did. I'm fine with any level of rules and enforcement, provided said rules are clear, readily visible, and it is all done equitably. I also think there should be punishments for those that abuse the "report" button as their own personal "I don't like to see that, Daddy, make it go away" magic wand. Admin has enough to do that we shouldn't be making him chase down a bunch of frivolous claims every day. And even if admin does have extra time, it could be spent on things for the betterment of the whole community.

Would you like to block me, too?

JeffMurray comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Here are smaller cuts of that screenshot. It appears you can't see the large ones.

The thing that bothers me most about this 17 year old that killed three protesters after traveling ...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 29, 2020:

Unconscionable. I don't even know how things got this divided, but now it feels like the right takes the opposing viewpoint just because they don't want to look like they agree with the left.

"Pray for Louisiana and Texas" This was a Facebook post by a woman I've known for many years and I ...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 27, 2020:

This is kind of the go to meme to post on shit like that.

Why do Atheist like to talk about God so much?

JeffMurray comments on Aug 27, 2020:

I don't suppose they do. I'd be willing to bet that if everyone else in the world kept his name out they mouth, we'd all be perfectly happy doing the same.

A man changed member's replies to support his post. I objected.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 26, 2020:

I agree with what you've said here, but overall I disagree with free thought and truthful posts being removed just because people may not like them. Someone replied and then blocked me and said some asinine shit I couldn't see. Someone screenshot and sent it to me, so I responded in a post of my own. It was reported and got removed. That's some bullshit if you ask me. They can block me and say whatever they want and when I rightfully angrily respond they can censor me further. Looking back, I'm actually surprised I didn't quit coming here (again) after that.

One of my biggest issues with Christianity is the viral aspect—the directive to all believers to ...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 26, 2020:

> Let them believe what they want. I have a fundamental problem with this. There are a million reasons this shouldn't be a policy everyone follows.

Liberty professor says students are questioning their faith in the wake of Falwell Jr. scandal

JeffMurray comments on Aug 26, 2020:

If the worldwide systemic and repeated rape of children at the hands of priests didn't shake any faith, I don't know why one guy watching his wife get boned would. If people are questioning their faith is because they're realizing they had faith in something stupid just like most of the people that frequent this website, not because of Falwell.

How many more years...?

JeffMurray comments on Aug 24, 2020:

A. I think a religion's "health" is all related to birth rates and how much forced indoctrination there is. I don't see it surging, but I don't think, at least in the US, people will ever be * forced * to meet in secret. B & C. Probably as long as humans have left. I see a catastrophic event that ends [human/most] life on Earth to be way more likely that the complete abandonment of all religion. Hell, humans are starting * new * religions still.

10 Reasons we Need the Puke Emoji Back 10 Trump Supporters 9 Nancy Pelosi/MitchMcConnell 8...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 23, 2020:

You really think Nancy Pelosi is as vomit inducing as MitchMcConnell?

One of my dearest siblings messaged me with a post she had seen.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 22, 2020:

Uugh, I love AOC.

Does anyone really care that there is no afterlife?

JeffMurray comments on Aug 22, 2020:

I thought "The Good Place" did an amazing job of tackling the heavy issue of why any afterlife (in "heaven" or "hell") would be everlasting torture. No thanks. No afterlife for me. And we can go ahead and end this life as soon as possible as well, cause this sucks, too.

In fairness, if a society accepts religion, it should accept any organization that warps a child's ...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 22, 2020:

Yes, but that only holds water when a majority of the country doesn't recognize the organization warps the child's mind.

Well, it happened. Someone that I respect is a Qanon believer. It's so fucking dumb. I just can't.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 22, 2020:

I think you mean "someone I used to respect is a Qanon believer." 😝

I feel like I'm in the closet.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 21, 2020:

A lot of us have felt that way at some point. Most of us have gotten past it. You made the right first step coming here to talk about it to get from one point to the other. There are several family members that would still give me shit about it, if I still talked to them that is. But I'll never let them keep me quiet or make me feel ashamed for it. There are two important things to remember here: 1. You didn't choose to stop believing in God, and you can't choose to start believing again. It's no one's fault that you no longer believe, or that they still do. 2. If you need to stop talking to one or more of them because of the way they treat you or they stop talking to you because of your realization, that's on them, not you. You didn't do anything wrong.

Did a bug fly up your nose?

JeffMurray comments on Aug 20, 2020:

Gross.

Hey guys.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 20, 2020:

I strongly believe that logic courses should be a mandatory part of the curriculum. Depending on age, there could be a home school situation for this since you won't get it at school.

Sweden records highest death tally in 150 years in first half of 2020 Covid-19 caused about 4,500...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 20, 2020:

Yeah, wasn't some dick bag just telling me there were other countries, like Sweden, that were successful without locking down?

I sent a "Hello" to numerous gals at Agnostic, and I only got a response from one of them.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 17, 2020:

Fuck bro, I'm desperate to not even make it to 50 and you're still out here chasing tail at 70! More power to you. Ladies, this guy may be worth a look if he's that much of a go getter.

I just read an article in the Washington Examiner, a Conservative leaning news app that non ...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 17, 2020:

It is my firm belief America will no longer be a country before the people living here are non-religious.

Death Valley soars to 130 degrees, potentially Earth’s highest temperature since at least 1931 ...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 17, 2020:

Yeah, but what about all that global warming I have to shovel in January...

What would Jesus do? I just saw this Meme and thought it was funny....

JeffMurray comments on Aug 17, 2020:

Do people sit around and play the 'If you wouldn't get in trouble, how would you do it' game?

Voters receive absentee ballot forms with Trump's face on them

JeffMurray comments on Aug 17, 2020:

He's going to win. Well, cheat and "win".

What about NDE's (Near Death Experiences)?

JeffMurray comments on Aug 16, 2020:

I don't suggest anyone "explain away" things with easy catch-all answers (like 'God did it' ) on either side of the coin. Do a little research and learn about how the brain receives and processes information. There may be a lot of info that you learn that makes those "lies and brain farts" morph into reasonable/plausible explanations. Even then, however, you don't need to close up shop. The object is to avoid ending inquiry with unsupported conclusions - that's what religion does.

Tuned for life?

JeffMurray comments on Aug 16, 2020:

Yeah, it's nonsense. Anyone who understands evolution can see how misguided this claim is.

There are many well known atheists, agnostics and scientists who have said, and without much ...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 16, 2020:

I know at least one Greek God that's real... https://youtu.be/uU_3WpHuvyE

Catholic voters' impossible choice

JeffMurray comments on Aug 16, 2020:

It seems clear the anti-abortion Republicans will vote Trump because they are generally one-issue voters.

The Most Thrilling Ad of the 2020 Election So Far.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 16, 2020:

Yeah, that ad makes him look like a baller.

If anyone is the slightest bit interested in why I feel the Admin has created a moral crisis for ...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 15, 2020:

I see people who like Trump as lesser humans. 😝 But seriously, what's Admin's role in this?

Scenario: What would the world be like if we followed religion to the letter?

JeffMurray comments on Aug 15, 2020:

First question: * Which * religion...

More US churches sue to challenge COVID-19 restrictions

JeffMurray comments on Aug 15, 2020:

I say let them do whatever they want. It will disproportionately kill Republicans/Religious people.

Perhaps I’m not as confident in my ability to discuss religion or philosophy or even politics.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 13, 2020:

I'm of the mindset that if you have good reasons for what you believe, you shouldn't have a problem discussing them because you should be able to support and defend your positions. I can see not discussing with certain people because they are too stupid to intelligently debate them, though.

How many people feel they live in the wrong part of the country to meet like-minded people?

JeffMurray comments on Aug 12, 2020:

I don't think there's a right city or state. 70+% of the country believes in angels.

At the risk of stirring up a hornet's nest, I'd like to discuss sexism.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 12, 2020:

The only one that hits my ear weird is the one about Harris, but I don't really have much support for calling that sexist.

Q) How can you tell when Donald Trump is lying? A) His lips are moving.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 12, 2020:

What do you get when you cross a narcissist asshole, an electoral college, and an electorate 35% comprised of complete fucking idiots? The end of a democracy. I guess mine wasn't funny. Just sad and true.

Okay, so how's about we have a little harmless fun here.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 11, 2020:

My buddy and I watch movies while we play Heroes and we repeatedly find things the other person misheard on movies we've watch a million times. Just yesterday he caught me say, "Aren't * our * mamas the same" with Derek in The Waterboy when he actually says, "Aren't * all * mamas the same". And in Idiocracy he heard, "maximum violence channel" instead of, "next on the violence channel". And we still disagree on what Pepper Books says in Dodgeball between, "that'll buy you one heck of a [blumpkin/pumpkin]".

Honest Question

JeffMurray comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Apparently @LenHazell53 either blocked me or deleted his comment because he talked a bunch of nonsense and couldn't support it.

This - from yet another social media discussion on Covid.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Does this include all the Republicans that won't wear masks?

Honest Question

JeffMurray comments on Aug 10, 2020:

If you ask a hundred people here about the definitions of agnostic and atheist you'll probably get 99 or more answers. To me, it seems very clear cut, though, and I don't understand the confusion. Atheism deals with what you believe. Agnosticism deals with what you can know. They are 0% in competition with each other. I am an agnostic atheist because I do not believe in any god, but I know we can't know whether or not one exists.

While on a long drive recently, I was listening to a show on NPR about immortality and time.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 9, 2020:

I had this exact argument with my buddy about a week ago. He wants to live until the universe reaches heat death. To me it sounds like the worst fucking case of FOMO I've ever heard of. Not only do I not want to live forever, I don't even want to be alive now. If, however, there was an option to be invincible for 5 years then die, I would scoop that deal up in a heartbeat. I think the people that are saying they want to live forever have not really thought about how agonizing it will be when they're living in the post-life hellscape Earth will become at some point. All alone. For ETERNITY. Not a thousand years alone and unable to die. Not a million years. ETERNITY.

This is just wrong. French people discarding their pets. [bbc.com]

JeffMurray comments on Aug 8, 2020:

People all over the world use and abuse animals daily for their pleasure. Not really sure what makes them any worse than anyone else.

Our fearless liar obstructionist fascist leader!!! Has now announce he will terminated all Social...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 8, 2020:

How are there no patriots left in America?

‎Friday, ‎August ‎07, ‎2020 as many detractors - have requested - a postulate that is - ...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 8, 2020:

This is another thing that really annoys people about you, the reposting of the same thing over and over.

‎Friday, ‎August ‎07, ‎2020 as many detractors - have requested - a postulate that is - ...

JeffMurray comments on Aug 8, 2020:

I know in going to regret this but here goes... > I am that which I have so chosen to be How does one chose to be what they are? > eternal in its very nature I do not accept that as a statement of fact. It is theorized that the universe will end in heat death. Even if we can't know this will be the case, it is still a possibility, thus, saying energy is eternal is not necessarily true. > god is all things and no thing Mathematical impossibility. If we assign the variable X for god and 1 for one of all of the things the premise states god is, we have the equation: X=1, but because of the second half of the premise, we also have the equation X [does not equal] 1. > love is all things and no thing Hate is a thing. Love is hate > life is all things and no thing Death is a thing. Life is death.

I am in a quandry and would like some opinions.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 8, 2020:

Also, I will say that donating to charity of your choice in your relative's name as suggested by many is also not something I would do. That's not right for the same reason asking you to donate to a Christian cause isn't right. Something is not a gift if it's for yourself instead of the person you're giving it to. My super right-wing Christian uncle used to buy my siblings and me a year subscription to the NRA for our birthdays every year. We told him to knock it off. That's an anti-gift. Not only is he not getting us something we'd want, but money was going into the coffers of an organization we despised because of us (and there's a record of us being NRA members for years).

I am in a quandry and would like some opinions.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 8, 2020:

I say make them some food or buy them a nice bottle. Definitely don't donate to an organization that goes against everything you believe in out of guilt. (Imagine what your religious relatives would do if you asked them to donate to an atheist or Satanist cause.)

Lawmakers from both parties want the postal service to undo changes that are slowing mail delivery.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 7, 2020:

I've tried to warn people about this kind of shit for years now and no one seems to care. I even have historically Democrat-leaning and super liberal (Bernie bro type) friends that are refusing to recognize the dangers of this administration. I've even argued with the latter about their claim that another 4 years of Trump would be better than Biden because at least they have a shot at a "real liberal candidate" in 4 years instead of 8. I can't anymore. Fuck 'em all. The worst part is these morons won't even realize they are reaping what sowed. The American experiment is over.

[yahoo.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 6, 2020:

What I don't understand is that we hunted down Nazis the world over to kill them, but now we allow them to march our streets with torches chanting "Jews will not replace us."

The fuel stop from hell.

JeffMurray comments on Aug 5, 2020:

That link is broken to me.

Acceptance

JeffMurray comments on Aug 5, 2020:

It's nothing compared to telling people you don't believe in free will. I've never feel more hated than when I share that nugget.