Beto O’Rourke, Joe Biden and the Perils of the Electability Trap – Rolling Stone

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 19, 2019:

Personally I think Beto is low on the totem pole. Biden, if you're online much you'll notice most call him "too old" (like Trump), too stodgy, not progressive enough, not confident enough. Most are looking closely at Warren, Sanders, (who is also too old but has new ideas), Kamala Harris. In 2016 DNC ruined the Democrats by selecting Hilary over Bernie. He would have won.

If you had to choose between keeping 30 grand or bailing a loved one out of prison with the money, ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 17, 2019:

Ok, is it his money I'm removing from his bank account? Or my money. If his, sure bail him out. If mine, don't think so.

ISN’T THE BIGGEST THREAT TO THE CREDIBILITY OF CHRIST, HIS EMBRACING OLD TESTAMENT TEACHINGS?

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 17, 2019:

Debate ongoing: did Jesus even exist? Some say no. This is a highly religious topic and I don't believe in god, the friggin bible nor god having a son. Someone didn't want to tell their mommy she got preggers and made up the entire holier than thou story accepted without question by believers who need something called faith to get sucked into that vacuum.

Do you believe that a cure for cancer exists, but it's not available to the public because medical ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 17, 2019:

I know what cured my sister of stage 4 liver failure as an alcoholic. She had visiting nurses and asked how many years she had left and they said we don't talk about years for your situation we talk about weeks or months at the most. She got a "wish" from the foundation had her son visit CA from NH to see his mom for the last time. She's living in CA and stopped drinking and started smoking high test pot. That was over 5 years ago and she's now working full time. POT the cure for liver failure and who knows what else.

Taking bets.

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 16, 2019:

He is so far into idiot land he wants OUR military to defend Arabia? But he doesn't even know Puerto Rico is part of our country? Can't recite the national anthem, is the dickhead of the planet. He is so fkng stupid he just may bomb someone so I'll take that bet and raise you 10 bucks

What Does Immersing Yourself in a Book Do To Your Brain? | Literary Hub

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 16, 2019:

I find reading gives one an incredible view inside the mind, thoughts, and experiences of another person. It's like they are giving a piece of themselves away. I don't mean entertainment books but serious book s like Animal Farm (where we now live) anything by Anne Rand, Antoine de Saint- Exupery, Poe, so many incredible insights into another's life view we don't see that closely even into a mates mind. It's fascinating.

Finished the jacket I made.

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 16, 2019:

Jacket is nice, I need your weight secrets. You don't eat at all right??? I have to throw my scale out a window.

Is it ethical to have children?

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 14, 2019:

It should be mandatory for people with an IQ over 135 or so to have kids. Smart people just aren't having enough children to keep up with the toothless, inane, insane and thoroughly stupid gen.pop. The smart people have none to 1 kid while the brainless MAGAs have about 10.

I made a goal for myself, to lose 10 of my 40 extra pounds before I see my doctor in October.

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 13, 2019:

I'm having a similar problem. Trying to take off 20 lbs cuz when I left FL I also left the Planet Fitness about 7 mi from home. I went daily at 7am. Where I am now no fitness nearby so I don't even have a good place to walk my dogs and gained at least 15lbs here in TN. I was eating salad daily for lunch, meat and vegs for dinner and stood on the scale weighing the same every damn day. I gave up, a donut a day isn't going to change my life--apparently.

Do you feel bad about eating meat and the slaughter of animals for meat?

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 12, 2019:

I find it sort of strange that the living are alive because they consume the dead. Sounds ghoulish. When I was a kid I asked my parents at dinner (no less) why they named only one kind of meat after an animal...Chicken...so did that mean I was eating a chicken? Well they woke me the fk up. I said there are no hamburger animals, no steak, no pork chop, no bacon, no beef, no meatball animals the only one was chicken. Come to find out all we ate were dead animals. Our German shepherd learned to sit under my chair where I brushed the meat off onto the floor. We became great buddies. I would be a vegetarian if I could figure out a tasty way to get protein without beans or tofu. It's too hard, I pretty much limit myself. I don't mind fish so much so I eat more of that than other meats.

Donald Trump Is Not Well - The Atlantic

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 10, 2019:

What is Nancy Pelosi's problem? She can begin impeachment proceedings asap, and get Pence along with Major Bone Spurs do us all a favor. But she sits on her fat butt doing very little to rectify the situation having a demented, rapist, genitalia grabbing, misogynist, liar in the WH. How can she possibly sleep at night havng done nothing at all? When this is over she's not going to do well in history for sure.

Tennessee lawmaker calls for removal of higher education to cut off ‘liberal breeding ground’ | ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 10, 2019:

He claims it was a joke,https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/it-was-joke-says-tennessee-senator-who-said-colleges-should-n1051776 the man that is; Certified, Public Accountant, Tennessee State Board of Accountancy, 1986 BS, Accounting, Lipscomb University, 1983 Did it make him a liberal? Inquiring minds want to know.

How many here never had religion or never was a believer?

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 10, 2019:

Sent to learn Hebrew but picked up touch football players on the way and skipped temple. Never saw the point of it at all. My parents never pushed it on me but brother had to have a bar mitzvah. I did go to church with a friend and all the priest talked about were the Jews so I didn't go again, it was rather boring except all the Jews involved. Went home wondering what the Xians were doing talking all service about the Jews. So much for that!

The natural world is full of grisly cases of predation, parasitism, a universe of ghastly horrors ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 10, 2019:

sounds like the so-called president. HUGE disappointment.

How would you reply to a theist who says, "You send yourself to hell"?

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 10, 2019:

I say "I thought we are already in hell."

Yes, let's recap.. 🙄😒

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 9, 2019:

‎Douglas Malcom Brown‎ to Warriors Against Trump, Sanders, and Democratic Traitors "The Trump administration must go. They are vindictive, and don't care about doing what's right for people. They don't want California to fight for cleaner air and water. Every day Trump shows his true colors, and proves that he is the **most corrupt, inept, and dangerous president** that we have ever had. We must all vote Democrat in 2020.". Vote Blue No Matter WHO. Of course the uneducated people who don't read and keep up with what is happening in the world believe in the Chosen One with the bone spurs that can't communicate beyond a 3rd grader in English (his language) Covfefe for example; think he's all that and a bag of chips. He is only the chips.

There is no God , only we.

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 9, 2019:

I agree but also the belief systems are created because of why bad things happen to people. God is pissed off let's sacrifice a goat to him maybe we'll have better luck!

Trump planned a secret meeting with Taliban leaders, invited them to US.

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 8, 2019:

He has the mentality of a 3rd grader. Of course he'd invite the Taliban, Hezbollah, & Isis all to his dinner table because he wants nothing more than to emulate them. He thinks he's fkng GOD. Remember he's the fkng Chosen One. Chosen for WTF?

Yes, let's recap.. 🙄😒

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 8, 2019:

1-One of the strongest criticisms of fracking is the danger it poses to water resources. In a study from the Environmental Protection Agency, it was found that drinking water had been contaminated with carcinogenic chemicals used in nearby fracking wells. ALL LIFE ON EARTH NEEDS CLEAN WATER. 2-The use of coal has been going down since 2014 has nothing to do with fracking. 3-According to the 2017 BP Statistical Review of World Energy, since 2005 annual U.S. carbon dioxide emissions have declined by 758 million metric tons. That is by far the largest decline of any country in the world over that timespan and is nearly as large as the 770 million metric ton decline for the entire European Union. **Has nothing to do with fracking**. 4 -Have you accomplished anything even close to her education? She's far from an idiot. "Warren is a graduate of the University of Houston and Rutgers Law School and has taught law at several universities, including the University of Houston, the University of Texas at Austin, the University of Pennsylvania, and Harvard University. She was one of the most cited professors in the field of commercial law before beginning her political career. She is the author of three and coauthor of six books, both academic and for a general audience" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren **She taught law at Harvard**. She wants to emulate China NOT construct the same political ideology. Me thinks you are a Rush Limbaugh fan of highest order. A script from his show went like this: WARREN: We’ve got bridges and roads in need of repair, and thousands of people in need of work. Why aren’t we rebuilding America? Our competitors are putting people to work building a future. China invests 9% of its GDP in infrastructure. America? We’re just 2.4%. We can do better. We can build a foundation for a strong, new economy and get people in Massachusetts to work right now. I’m Elizabeth Warren and I approved this message. Let’s go to work. RUSH: Yeah, be like China. That’s Elizabeth Warren. That’s the ad she’s running to get elected to the Senate, asking people in Massachusetts, look, I’ll do for you what the Chinese communists have done. It’s just unbelievable. VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO.

Today is my birthday.

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 8, 2019:

Happy Birthday. I was surprised when I found the H.S. pic to see how long my hair was (hippie). The second pic was taken by a customer when I worked as a gas station manager in the 80s. I had to look mean...never got robbed.

[ted.com] What gives you joy?

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 8, 2019:

Another video says "Our culture is obsessed with happiness, but what if there's a more fulfilling path? Happiness comes and goes, says writer Emily Esfahani Smith, but having meaning in life -- serving something beyond yourself and developing the best within you -- gives you something to hold onto. Learn more about the difference between being happy and having meaning as Smith offers four pillars of a meaningful life." https://www.ted.com/talks/emily_esfahani_smith_there_s_more_to_life_than_being_happy That being said, I have never wandered around seeking happiness, some people tell me to smile more, so am I supposed to walk around with a stupid grin on my face as if I'm mentally damaged? What is most fulfilling for me and always has been is learning other cultures, fostering dogs, kittens and helping shelters in general. Animals care and know.I had a purpose in working for and with animals. I struggled to write 4 books, one of them about a litter of 10 puppies. It was hard work, took years, not a joy, only the result was a temporary delight and no one cares. I also am an artist who built a gallery and no one cares. All things I struggle with to enrich myself emotionally end up unimportant to anyone other than myself but I don't give up on myself. Right now my dogs are enough for me, I've had a lifetime of giving. Sometimes I think the accomplishments are too much challenge for others I know to accept. They have simple lives trying to get by day to day, few of them read, less went past high school. There is no joy in my life, I have purpose tho.

Do religious people really believe what they say?

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 6, 2019:

The same small mindedness that entrenched them in their beliefs because its easier to let others think for you, is the same as believing in it all. If they go to church, tithe and try to convert others then they're just mentally empty enough (whether emotionally, intellectually or other) to suck it all in like a vacuum cleaner.

Is there an easy answer to the old question "Is religion useful, useless or detrimental?

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 6, 2019:

considering most join this group because they find religion incomprehensible/unproven I often wonder why so many questions about belief in religion are asked. My answer to the question is "there is no answer" go find something more creative to reflect on besides make believe used to control masses and explain good/bad.

My loving and caring parents are actively trying to pass down Christianity to my little, ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 6, 2019:

I would suggest to my parents they are only presenting one point of view: THEIRS. Get a book that teaches children about many religions and suggest they read these other point of views to the kids because you don't want them only exposed to one religious idea when so many other religions exist. Tell them it would be biased and unfair not to include other religions.

One of the most confusing thing I deal with as an atheist is Christians asking me in public ( work ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 6, 2019:

Right now there are several people or groups proving the non existence of Jesus; https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/12/18/did-historical-jesus-exist-the-traditional-evidence-doesnt-hold-up/?noredirect=on "These early sources, compiled decades after the alleged events, all stem from Christian authors eager to promote Christianity – which gives us reason to question them." So I would say have you heard he may not have existed? Therefore there is nothing to believe or not believe. Also Jews believe he was a very good carpenter and that's all they say about him.

Mark of the beast???

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 6, 2019:

It seems from your post that non religious people are accepting to be chipped to pay for stuff, so what, they run their wrist over a chip scanner and things get paid for that way? I guess since big brother has cameras on every corner there is no such thing as privacy anymore, esp. if they like keeping track of employees with a tracking device/cedit card wrists. I don't think it's the mark of anything. People are supposedly born with the "mark of the beast" and it's usually 666.

I noticed that believers (actually those who con believers) have come out with a new movie: ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 2, 2019:

How else to reign in misdeeds? I cannot fathom my friend. She was an alcoholic, goes to AA and now is addicted to religion (common theme). Why did god allow her to become an alcoholic in the first place? Shouldn't her life be stress free with him holding the reins and her praying all the time so he would? Religion is so convoluted it makes absolutely no sense at all.

Dorian.

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 2, 2019:

Dorian is the REASON for religion and cults. The pagans didn't have a belief system and ran rampant and drunk throughout their towns having sex with anyone,so religion was created by man-not-kind and god could look over their lives INDIVIDUALLY to save them from hurricanes and other disasters. That's why they pray all the damn time over the man created god in his image, for relief from natural disasters they didn't understand. They were good...and look! A hurricane, let's pray to our god to stop it! And while we're at it lets ask for our crops to survive.

I have never been a person who likes small talk much, I would much rather have a deeper, thought ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 2, 2019:

I've been on date sites off and on for years. First thing to notice is they don't bother to learn your name, sweetheart, honey, dear--those are your new names. Some copy/paste one letter of thought they created to every woman they're writing to without actually reading what you write and don't particularly care. Also a lot of times your questions will be answered in one sentence no matter how "deep" it is. Most you'll get for a starter conversation is "hi". Good luck with that!! I would LOVE to get a well thought out response after I write a paragraph of stuff. If they do one sentence. If you mean IRL I would ask what books they read, favorite movies, what kind of art do they like, those are questions that can bring on longer responses. Life of Pi is a great movie and a lot of conversation can come of that.

Isn’t there clear evidence that the supreme something that created the universe is an unjust ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Sep 1, 2019:

There is no proof of any higher being altho thousands exist for thousands of believers. We are just here. Happy accident for some, misery for others. Take from it what you wish and leave what you don't want. To condense life into a myth or made up Santa Claus minimizes what reality is and does all life on the planet a disservice. Creates divisions among people, starts wars, creates higher and lower 'castes' of people, puts animals at the bottom of the totem pole when humans have no clear understanding of whale communication, birds speaking and making sense, apes learning hand signals. Making some fake creator responsible doesn't work for all life, the planet, the animals, nothing. Why is it so difficult for some ex believers to accept things just are? They just are. PERIOD. Maybe I have disbelief because I've never been seduced by any religion. Ever.

What’s the origin of your Agnostic.com name?

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 31, 2019:

My all black shepherd is a canine (K9). Kohle is German for coal.

What about grief?

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 26, 2019:

I was ready for a new relationship about 2/3 yrs after my husband of 26 yrs passed from cancer. I met a lot of men on date sites, never finding anyone I connected with...at all. Then about 10 yrs later I met (date site) a tall long curly haired blond blue-eyed hot, *really* hot guy. I was more ready for the sex (think HOT) then the relationship. He had naked women tats, no teeth, not very smart, lied all the time. When he couldn't perform in bed I was over it cuz that's all I wanted from him. Since then nothing worth mentioning even tho always waiting; as if for a bus. I'm 67 the men my age if they look good are wanting younger women, the overweight with white hairy faces write me. I'm like the good looking guys and want younger. The blond was 5 yrs younger. Some men like older women still waiting for the freaking bus.

Where did you first learn about God?

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 26, 2019:

I was raised in a reform (RE: none) Jewish home. Both grandparents practicing and i always wondered what the hell was with the separate plates for meals. Doesn't washing them fix everything? So there were holidays etc but not much mention of god. Just speaking in Hebrew was beyond me (played football instead of Sat. school). So god sort of joined up with Santa cuz he watches when you're sleeping, watches when you're awake, knows if you've been bad or good and that's who god is to me...Santa. Do not believe in Santa after age 6 when I kept crying for a horse and never got one. I said fk Santa!!!

Johnson & Johnson must pay over $572 million for its role in Oklahoma opioid crisis, judge rules

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 26, 2019:

apparently I should have lived in OK. Middle name is "I fkn hurt 24/7". How did J&J cause an epidemic in opioids? How is it their fault? It's like guns....people don't kill people; guns kill people. So THEY say. Lets go one further and people don't kill people opioids kill people. wtf?

Poodle cats have humorous personalities and resemble tiny poodles, covered with curly hair.

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 26, 2019:

what do you mix a normal cat with to get the curls?

No one can tell me why I am here in this mystery.

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 24, 2019:

It's not the end of the road that matters its the journey so enjoy it. Find things that you enjoy and try to be 'there" every moment of your life.

[dailykos.com] The Trump presidency may well have entered its endgame today?

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 24, 2019:

I think the Chosen One believes he's going to be god of America for the next 14 yrs. Why 14? Sheesh who fkn knows he's an idiot.

The Atlantic magzine has an article this month about a new interpretation of Job.

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 24, 2019:

My take away on reading/studying for an essay was that people never have to be responsible for anything they do because god is in charge, blame him. What he giveth he can taketh away-ith.

Denmark offers to buy America from Russia [rochdaleherald.co.uk] via @@RochdaleHerald

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 22, 2019:

LOL too funny

Starved For Practicing Emotional Intimacy (SFPEI) 1: PRACTICING EMOTIONAL CONNECTABILITY ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 22, 2019:

So out of how many single, not gay, women seeking the exact same thing as you -do you suppose there are? I was having PMs with someone on here and "something" I didn't agree with was a deal breaker. I wondered where the hell that came from since I wasn't interested in a relationship with the person and then all communication ended. I found that amusing. Out of no where came the "deal breaker". So many men on date sites have "deal breakers" and the odds of finding someone with the same ideals is rare to say the least esp. in a short time. I can't speak for the women cuz I don't look at their profiles. From Wiki as well as other sources online. Tantra is an aspect of a religion. "Richard Payne states that Tantra has been commonly but incorrectly associated with **sex, given popular culture's prurient obsession with intimacy. **Tantra has been labelled as the "yoga of ecstasy", driven by senseless ritualistic libertinism.[21] **This is far from the diverse and complex understanding of what Tantra means to those Buddhists, Hindu and Jains who practice it.[21]"** \

Whats your favourite saying with religious origins? Mine would have to be "Nailed it!!!" :D

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 22, 2019:

When my daughter was 3 we visited my mother who had a bunch of breeding Pomeranians in her house. She put them all in one room behind a screen door while we visited but my kid walked by the door and they all started barking a furious frenzy of hairballs. My daughter stopped and said, Jesus Fkng Christ! Guess I'd have to pick that one. Wonder where she got that from?

What would you do if an acquaintance invited you to get coffee because they said that they want to ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 22, 2019:

Ask her if she still believes in the Easter Bunny, Santa,Toothfairy, or any fairies so many religious believe fairies exist. I would ask about the above and say next time you see me, turn around and walk away, very slowly.

Nasty fucking assholes

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 22, 2019:

I've been wondering why people are called manKIND. WTF?

I've been an atheist since I was 15 years old, my mom says she's a Christian.

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 22, 2019:

I think people who idolize Jesus are committing a sin against god who said thou shalt hold no gods before me. So she's a cultist or a sinner if I understand it correctly.

A lot of people here have arrived from religious backgrounds so I was wondering what your feelings ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 22, 2019:

I'd like to pose another question here cuz it's related. If people believe in god and that god only gives you that which you can handle or whatever people say, in other words, things happen for a reason- then why would they go to unusual lengths to keep a baby -with serious life threatening or physical issues- alive often at costs that are exhorbitant? They can tell nowadays what problems the baby/fetus is facing so why force your will on a terminal or unhealthy birth? People who are religious USE god as comfort saying "it's god's will" so if it's his will then why interfere with gods will by correcting what he wanted. That is how to look at it from a religious point of view. So why?

So there is a condolence card in the break room for one of my coworkers who’s dad just died.

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 22, 2019:

If I felt I knew the person well and/or dealt with her daily I might sign it and add the symbol for agnostics with my name. I think it's here.https://www.google.com/search?q=agnostic+symbl=1CAPPDO_enUS829&oq=agnostic+symbl=chrome..69i57j0l5.5138j1j4=chrome&ie=UTF-8

This post is for fun and philosophical thought: If you could change lives with ONE person in the ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 20, 2019:

There are so many artists to chose from, I guess I'd choose a Japanese one. Their art is often so distinguished from other artists, it's as if they have a visual connection. I admire their simplicity and style. They have such a unique expression in their work. The reason would be to "see" things as they do. Check out some of their work. https://www.pinterest.com/dianernoahr/asian-simplicity/

Decade in the Red: Trump Tax Figures Show Over $1 Billion in Business Losses

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 20, 2019:

I sincerely hope this bizarre clown ends up in jail but please we do not want Pence to replace him. NO!! If it's at all possible for someone to be worse that'd be the scenario.

Now I am very sad! Peter Fonda died.

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 17, 2019:

My sister & I grew up in NH (near Boston) and she said, "New Englanders are probably the only people who say Petah Fonder." Sorry to hear about his loss.

Please let me know if you would say something in this situation.

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 17, 2019:

Call the newspapers! Another immaculate conception! Wine for all my friends!

I am taking an ethics class and religions of the world class this semester and I'm very interested ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 17, 2019:

I went back to college in my 30s the only art school was run by nuns. I was Jewish but ditched all that nonsense a long time before. Only one nun was overzealous and made us write what was the lesson god was teaching Job by fkng with his life. I wrote a very logical essay on how religions (god) like to pass the blame to someone else. It's always gods fault, no one does anything to deserve what god does to them and it's a fine excuse for the blame game. I got a B+.

Holy shit was real

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 8, 2019:

And for children no less. Too bad things have changed so drastically!! I live in TN and next door NC both states are filled with pill Nazi's. They found clear pee the first time I went to the "pain clinic", they gave me no pain meds, WTF?? Took care of myself went back and oops! found THC in the pee. I said I'm old enough to take care of myself if you won't. Next time is end of Aug so I started drinking to kill the pain. 2 shots Bicardi in my iced tea w/lemon after 6pm. I'll blame them if I become an alcoholic. I'm in a lot of pain from having permanent spinal cord damage following sciatica surgery. They are so dumb I told them my hands are tingly and go dead at night so they stick the heart beats per minute on my dead-ass finger and get a 29 bpm which is incompatible with life I was told later on (not by them, they could care less) to rush to a hospital but I waited for morning, called my new PCP and got my liver results (good) and BPM from him 78. So I'm alive anyways for now...would love cocaine candy tho.

Ethics is the attempt to rationally establish morality and to distinguish moral rules that can be ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 7, 2019:

The term ethics is not absolute. Which makes the first sentence arguable, thus not a logical statement. Ethicists don't assume they are pretending to rationalize that which cannot be rational, it's not the intent. *Rational* literally means based on logic and/or reason. It's not undefinable, nor up for interpretation. Either it's a logical statement or it's not and the above theory about morality is not based on logic or reason. Ethics may or may not reinforce morality. I don't believe a person who studies or knows ethics makes them feel others are irrational, stupid or malicious. That's for sure not a logical, reasonable conclusion. It's a biased one. Hasn't ethics been around for thousands of years? The origin comes from ethos a Greek term regarding Greek gods. So how does that lead one to a logical conclusion that a person who believes they are morally correct creates an intellectual? It's not a new, founded morality due to being thousands of years old. I am only looking at the comments in a logical manner where statement A must be truth, statement B must be truth and together they equal statement C which then MUST be true. I'm not finding truth.

We found this morning that our property was invaded by wayward cows.

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 7, 2019:

When I did animal control in NH I had to round up a bull, put 2 pygmy goats in my dog kennels for the day, I was always chasing this one guys Hackamore pony who no one knew was pregnant until I found her a new home and she dropped a foal in 2 weeks. I had to remove snakes (NH has no poisonous snakes except one town) so I got pillow case, grab snake with hand inside pillow case and reverse it so snake in case. I had a lot of weird issues with horses, too many for a post here. I had a complaint against the biggest Great Dane ever. His eyes were exactly the same height as mine and I'm 5' tall. He was HUGE. I had a neighbor who owned pigs, he put them in a cement enclosure. Well pigs love dirt and digging so they escaped into the graveyard next door and began rolling and pushing on stones, digging up graves etc and my herding champ had no effect on pigs, they don't care about dogs. I mean I was laughing at the sight then the owner had to come home and fix the graveyard. Horses are not easy to contain, I had so many problems with them but it was 80% of the business was from 20% of the customers. Barbed wire is illegal in NH.

A lot of people here have arrived from religious backgrounds so I was wondering what your feelings ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 7, 2019:

The reason I brought up the topic is that i'm having a discussion with my step daughter about this same topic and she wouldn't judge another for what they do but she also believes from conception there is a human life to consider. Personally I don't believe that. I don't even think a heartbeat at 12 weeks or whatever is a reason to forbid an abortion to an entire half of the population. So many things can occur, husband passes and finances are tight,a woman was raped, a woman doesn't feel connected to a baby and doesn't want to give birth or raise it. The man isn't the type of guy a woman would choose for a father figure, a wife beater shouldn't have children in his life either. I also think it keeps down the over population on the planet So many many possibilities that creating laws to prevent women from doing what they feel is right for themselves is very wrong. Coat hangars are dangerous. Biirth control for men should be for sale over the counter. They are half responsible and should take measures to prevent a pregnancy.

Describe your life as it currently is in a few words and explain why

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 7, 2019:

My life as it currently is; I have no expectations from people or life in general. I really go about every day not expecting anything special but I do enjoy that the prev. owner here put butterfly attraction flowers all over the place, i enjoy the lightenng bugs. I have no friends here was looking forward to meeting somne but boy am out in the middle of no place. I enjoy my relationship with my 2 dogs. One is almost 11 the other 6 and I suppose I won't outlive a puppy so I may adopt an older dog when my heart dog passes. He's one of the best dogs I ever had. I'm trying to get thru days without pain and I was never priviledged or given anything. I was 18 when I left home, brother moved into my bedroom that night and I never went back. Been across the country 3x,finished 4 yrs of college on my own, wrote 5 stupid books no ne reads anymore and have an art gallery no one comes to. I can compartmentalize things that bother or hurt me so I can live as stress free as possible. Once in awhile I meditate but not a lot.

When i make a friend i really dont care about what religion he/she is, or what their sex preference ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 6, 2019:

Not everyone is equal intellectually and when they open their mouths it shows.

And we wonder why we all hate each other... [democracynow.org]

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 6, 2019:

Well as groups maybe. Democrat vs Republican, ignorant whites vs blacks etc. I personally don't have time in my life to waste on hating anyone except the so-called president. HIM I hate.

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K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 6, 2019:

Doncha know the rats flee the ship when it's about to sink.

AN INTERESTING PIECE [bbc.com] What happens to a body donated to science?

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 6, 2019:

Specify you don't want to end up in a dog food can.

Texas police apologize after white officers on horseback lead black man through street on rope.

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 6, 2019:

I was wondering if this was an article from 100 yrs ago.

How can a person be killed because a police officer is firing at a barking dog - and why was he ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 3, 2019:

He obviously doesn't go to the firing range often enough.

I already know that i do not believe in God But i do not wanna say anything for sure, i mean who ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 3, 2019:

Your short note here is confusing as you say you are. Who could possibly be controlling you? Is this a childhood fear? Is it part of what you were brought up to believe? Is there a basis for what you feel? No matter what religious people believe god doesn't control them or their thoughts or lives, he pretty much, from what I understand, watches and hears prayers, I don't understand where the control part enters the beliefs do you?

Tell me, what's your best argument against a Christian?

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 3, 2019:

I say I gave up my invisible friends as a child, do you still believe in santa and the easter bunny too?

I drank fireball whisky for the first time and fucking loved it😂😂😂 i wish i had a bigger ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 3, 2019:

What I find really good is pepsi or coke mixed with root beer flavor Schnapps. YUM! Tastes like when you were a kid and not watered down root beer.

What is your best definition of being in love?

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 2, 2019:

For me, I have been in love 2x and both were very different. The first time we were 17 and we really couldn't be apart, we were intoxicated by each other and hormones were off the charts. I dated before and since then never felt the same. 2nd time I was married 26 yrs (till he passed) to a guy I had a crush on in high school, Lebanese, tall dark and handsome. He was raised pretty much alone with his sister and brother. They grew up in the 'projects' his mom never was an emotional person and worked 2 jobs to support the family. Dad left after knocking up his wife 3x no child support. He wasn't an emotional, romantic, totally involved with me kind of guy. I compare the two as a pair of flashy high heels and a pair of work boots. I always tried to make the 2nd relationship closer to the first one but he forced independence on me and at first didn't share my concern for abandoned dogs or wanting to foster eventually he caved. He was a sweet guy, everyone loved him, sense of humor never let up. We'd fight and end up laughing. After the first year we rarely fought about anything. We'd just end up on the floor hysterical cuz WTF was so important we had to argue about it? Nothing we both understood each other needed space and saw reality in our own way.

I love giving; time, blood, sweat.... anyone else volunteer or donate?

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 2, 2019:

I gave a gallon of blood in pints of course then they wouldn't take it anymore cuz I had Hep B antibodies. Hospitals always give their nurses anitbodies from Hep B so they will be protected, they must not be able to give blood. I'm AB Neg. I also volunteered at NH & FL shelters, sometimes taking litters of kittens home to foster until they were old enough to be adopted. I had to keep them from all the dogs or it would be like living in a madhouse. They had a downstairs bedroom for themselves, all were crazy. I learned young kittens eat litter and you can't use clumping litter or they'll die. I would sit down there for an hour when I fed them and they ran around insane. One guy always clung to my shirt while I was there and I had a tough time unclawing him from my shirts pull off one paw another took its place. Most shelters need foster homes for kittens every spring they get too many, most under 8 weeks. If anyone wants to help a shelter take a litter of freaking crazy ass kittens home! I also fostered under 1 yr old German shepherds & shepherd mixes for several rescues in NH & MA. I can't forget Tonka, he was a Shepherd/Husky mix and I wicked adored him. I almost couldn't let him go. The hazard of fostering is keeping them. Rescue gave me a female GS pup and said she needed a permanent foster home and the rescue girl ran off. I'm like WHAT?? Like WHAT?? The mom, who died, passed her heart murmur to all the female pups and Zoe (named her LIFE) had a 2 yr prognosis she was the worst- she lived 4 very happy years. My male Zack loved her. I'm totally immersed in dogs. They are my life.

Do you think that some things are unforgivable or do you think that some people should be given a ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 1, 2019:

I have been hurt in a detrimental way by my daughter, she will not allow me to see my 2 grandchildren unless she is present. No outings for ice cream, no parks, no overnights, nothing. She made up excuses all the time. New ones as the old ones disappeared. Made it easier to leave the state of NH. So unforgivable YES. I cannot ever reconcile because I've been banned for 10 years. I've taken so much bull from her I won't take anymore. I'm not a pin the tail on the donkey.

I was on my laptop and didn't have a photo to put in but I'm on my desktop and can't figure out how ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 1, 2019:

MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. From being an animal control officer I saw some real weird stuff vets do. A dog was HBC and had severe head injuries. I told the town vet around 10am if the owners didn’t show up before noon please euthanize the dog, the town would pay for it unless owner was found. Well the owner contacted the vet about quarter to 12 and the vet hurriedly attached wires and oxygen and all sorts of things to impress the owners that he was taking care of his OWN CLIENT’S dog he didn’t even recognize cost? 2k. So he dragged the trauma out for 2 days until the owners finally said put him to sleep. I would never go to that vet again. I drove emergency dogs to the next town and the story below about MY dog was the vet we started to use as ACOs. I took my smartest female shepherd to this vet for a UTI and he wanted to do an xray! What was that about? He has machines to pay for. She had a UTI and I told him she had a UTI. He took her temp (fever of course) she had an infection; UTI! He had to xray her. Like WHAT? He wanted to see the UTI on an xray? He took a swab from her urinary area and she had UTI!!! I paid $200 for a UTI why can’t a vet just give the antibiotic after the swab and xray useless? When she came back into the room she crawled on her belly under my chair. This 75lb dog herded a bull, without herding training. She located a missing dog in the woods, without search training. She was put under undue stress by the vet for no good reason and vomited at home. I never saw this dog shy away from anything EVER in her life, she used to climb from the back of my car so she could jump out my window to “help” me on calls. Once a loose sheltie no one could catch ran right to her and I caught the dog easily. This vet never spoke to my dog, never petted her, never acknowledged her existence because the dog wasn’t able to carry a checkbook. Vets go to college about 8 years for their degree yet some totally rely on machines for answers because they want the money to pay for the machine. A lot of vets have a lot of machines to pay off. They also have overhead. If a vet prescribes Science Diet they are being paid to do so. You can get the same result from pumpkin, Tylan, hamburg/rice diet or chicken/rice to stop diarrhea. Hills is not magic. If you think it’s necessary do it for a week and slowly switch back to your normal dog food (handful a day). So I suggest you ask your vet a lot of questions, do not agree to unnecessary machines until you agree with the need for it. I have rules: Dog is never out of my sight. We talk about the problem and how it may be fixed BEFORE any machine. I only allow one machine per visit so I tell the vet, you get ONE machine pick wisely. After I’ve found a good vet; the ones that used their ...

I was on my laptop and didn't have a photo to put in but I'm on my desktop and can't figure out how ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 1, 2019:

What is separation anxiety and how can it be changed? There are a lot of reasons your dog or puppy can be anxious and very often people say “Oh that dog must have been beaten!” That’s an uncommon reason. I had a dog, Zack, who was one step below me waiting to come in and he ducked his head and flinched as if I were going to kick him. Now THAT is a real reaction from being kicked in his face. He was a somewhat shy dog feeling comfortable with his own family and since we lived out in the boonies it wasn’t difficult to accommodate him. He did NOT have separation anxiety. I got him at 6 months old from a normally good breeder, I suspected her son was involved. Zack seemed shy but normal around my other dogs, he never bit anyone. I got a foster puppy once and he was on the floor playing with her, she was upside down on her back trying to sneak his treat and he was growling and snarling like he’d kill her. I said to my husband, “Oh no, the serial killer is playing with the baby!” He never hurt another dog in his life. Often a mother dog has separation anxiety and passes this along to her pups because they know what she’s feeling, fear. So they react accordingly. The best breeders realize this and will find another nursing mom and transfer the pups to her instead so the fear won’t grow. This is a very common reason for anxiety. Another cause is one people create by giving a dog/pup too much praise and a party whenever they let the pup out of a crate or return home. The praise and a treat should be the gifts on the way OUT the door, a casual ‘see ya, here’s a cookie!’ Is all that’s needed. If you feel anxious or guilty and hug, kiss, lean on, or otherwise pass your anxiety to the pup then the dog/pup will pick it up. Greeting when letting a dog out of a crate or arriving home says to the dog, being alone is scary and I can’t wait till my owner returns with praise and a treat meantime I’ll eat this blanket and couch cushion while waiting for the return party. If crating, you can calmly say “crate” toss in a filled Kong or other food dispensing toy with treats and just walk out without looking back. You can also do this with an older dog but you’re going to have more work if you don’t crate. You’ll have to limit the area the dog can have. Gate the dog in one room for awhile with NOTHING it can chew except hard chew toys, or raw beef bones or the Kong. No clothing on the floor, no socks on the floor anything the dog can be harmed from must be out of that room but make sure there is water. Once that is successful, you can give the dog a larger area maybe 2 rooms; same deal about leaving. Keep adding rooms as the dog is more and more successful. Do not forget to let the dog out to pee/poop before you leave longer...

We just brought home this little fella last weekend.

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 1, 2019:

I created a new group FOR dog lovers called Dog Behaviors. All dog adopters with questions please feel free to join, any pack behavioral issues, dog questions, vet questions, how to questions, puppy questions also invited. I prefer no breeders since they know it all already, He looks like a wonderful addition to your family. Very alert.

Study finds binge drinking among older Americans on the rise - CBS News

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 1, 2019:

I have severe neurological damage to my hands, left foot (has broken bones no ankle) and severe pain in my lower back I can hardly walk. I had surgery for sciatica and in FL was prescribed hydrocodone 5-325 mainly a strong baby aspirin. Moved to TN and NC/TN have the worst record for handing out meds for people who need them. I have had NO pain relief since April. I am far from neurologists and pain management altho I went to a pain clinic they took my heart beats per minute--> 29 with a finger tester. The 29 is life threatening, they did nothing. Cardiologists I called were freaking out that I need to be rushed to a hospital. I waited till morning and called my PCP to get my blood results and HIS BPM =78.This also proves I have severe damage to my hands/finger test of BPM way off. Since no one will prescribe any medicine for me I'm drinking. THAT'S probably why most older people drink. To get rid of pain. Opiods have gotten impossible to get. I'm throwing a shot of Bicardi in my iced tea around 2-4 and another around dinner time. People normally have 2 drinks a day so that's my new quota. FK pain clinic Nazis. Oh this entire subject can potentially be removed because I posted here. I have a stalker who removes my posts, from the clique-y dog group. I want a name.

So as of yesterday my job (Lowe's) laid me off without notice.

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 1, 2019:

Find a lawyer.

Now, I'm not saying that road side sobriety tests are getting harder, BUT, when I got stopped last ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 1, 2019:

I can't fold a fitted sheet SOBER!!

American Kids Need Reality, Not Religious-Based Education

K9Kohle789 comments on Aug 1, 2019:

Write to Betsy DeVoss her husband paid a small fortune to Tramp and he have her the ability to control education funding and she's aiming to make all schools religious, schools that don't want to have the stigma go without funding.

I had a conspiracy theorist extol her nuttiness on chemtrails.

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 31, 2019:

People claim the hot exhaust from a plane hitting the cold atmospheric air is not steam related but the gov't or somebody they don't know who, is poisoning us with chemicals floating out the back of planes. It's another off the wall nutso conspiracy theory.

Thursday morning and all is well with me. How about the rest of you?

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 31, 2019:

I'm still on the good side of the dirt, so fine.

What is the most absurd thing a "believer" has said to you?

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 31, 2019:

A religious family I was friends with the girl my age invited me over for dinner. Totally unprepared for the religious crapola they asked me to say the prayer!! My skin crawled in the situation, I was surrounded by superstitious god people. I was an unwilling accomplice to the b.s. I said the only prayer I knew: Rub a dub dub thanks for the grub. The world is a lot larger than they think of. It encompasses hundreds of religions, thousands of beliefs and I don't like that crap shoved down my throat. I had to say the Lords prayer all thru grammar school. My mom said just fold your hands and listen, don't say anything and they won't even notice. True, worked fine till I went to an art college run by nuns. WHOLE new story.

Why are there so many posts regarding christianity/christians?

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 31, 2019:

I think it's because they're not 100% convinced their upbringing with god wasn't a good idea. JMO. Some cling to the religion of their parents and for them it's hard to let it go. Next door to me in NH were some cult family they watched "service" online and didn't believe in doctors. The wife got tongue cancer and never saw a doc, she left 3 girls behind. Even tho tongue cancer is hard to beat she should have proven her love for her girls and at least make an attempt to live for them. Only ONE girl left the family and they're not allowed to communicate with her.

Dogs should be banned from stores except for certified, seeing-eye dogs.

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 28, 2019:

A girl in FL tried to keep taking her golden 1yr old to the beach-he lunged at passer bys etc. I told her it was against the law to bring dogs on Ormond Beach, she said and I quote "He's my emotional support dog and everyone knows service dogs can go anywhere." I looked up the laws and it's a misdemeanor to call a support dog a SERVICE dog. True service dogs do NOT crap in stores, they are well trained and cost 60 THOUSAND bucks. I told her it was a misdemeanor to call a support dog a service dog and keep the fkn dog off the beach. She was never on the beach with the dog again. It's becoming a worse and worse problem for these people thinking support dogs are equal to a service dog that actually performs a service and by law you can ask what SERVICE the dog performs. If there isn't an answer it's not a service dog. Some places like Home Depot don't care but people are taking dogs into stores and putting them on counters!! It's ridiculous. Pet peeve, can you tell???

I'm putting this in the General Forum because I think it goes beyond politics.

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 28, 2019:

Most of his supporters have always been the above, they were hiding under rocks until they felt free to voice themselves. Not only that but if you support a pedophile, tRump then you are supporting pedophiles If you support a child rapist you are supporting all child rapists. He is the worst human being on the planet and how he became president leaves intelligent people perplexed and confused about what they imagined America was. It is not what we thought at all.

IF you knew that WW3 was going to be fought over religion would you make greater efforts to be part ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 28, 2019:

Most wars have roots in religion or land. I couldn't convince anyone there is no god so why waste time. A bible thumper visited and I said go away I don't believe in god. She asked have you thought that all your life or did you ever believe in god? I said yeah I believe in Santa and the Easter bunny too. WW3 if it happens is going to be between China/US as of right now and we have the moron in chief ignoramus in charge and he's warmongering to pull the nuke codes. That will suck. I wish someone would fkng shoot him in the head, save us all from poverty, hunger, hatred of other countries, lies contractions and totally asinine behaviors. He has stated (TV too) that he won't leave the WH even if he loses the election. They better drag his fat white ass out of there in handcuffs.

I do not think I have posted a anything on here before but I have been doing a lot of thinking ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 28, 2019:

Nobody needs to agree with me but before I lost my boyfriend and husband I didn't think of spirits or hanging around spirits but since they died I have experienced strange happenings, not "out there" but odd so I do believe we are born from energy, we have energy in ourselves and when we die the energy needs to go someplace, maybe some linger a little others are confused and hang out too long. But yeah I do believe our energy reasserts itself in another form.

Mad at god or don't believe?

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 28, 2019:

I never believed in a god or gods. So what is there to be mad at? Life? Sometimes life is all about new beginnings and suffering other times it's nice to be alive.

WHO NEEDS GOD?

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 28, 2019:

Most likely their family was religious, so they've been indoctrinated since birth.

Headline on MSN "BELLA THORNE COMES OUT AS PANSEXUAL" Firstly who the hell is Bella Thorne and ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 28, 2019:

Slow news day?

What gives your life meaning? Why keep going? (just curious)

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 27, 2019:

I don't think of life as having meaning. It just is and here we are. Sometimes it's full of happiness, love, good things but as you age and people you love more than yourself die and your insides are fkd beyond anything imagined. That's where I'm at. If there's meaning it's escaped me. I'm not brave enough to commit suicide I think it's the easy way out. Life is suffering and loss. My dogs save me daily.

Waiter slammed for secretly serving virgin drinks to possibly pregnant woman who wanted alcohol...

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 26, 2019:

Thank you Faux News! Pregnant women can drink in moderation. No one has the right to mess with her drinks, who does he think he is KIM DAVIS???

Last Saturday a puppy mill breeder relinquished a 4 week old chocolate lab to the clinic where I ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 26, 2019:

FKNG breeders. I hate them. How'd another dog "just happen' to be loose and attack the pup? She needs to be arrested for neglect. I would have taken her litter & mom away after I brought the biatch to court. Stupid ass. Congrats on the new pup for the vet! Sometimes working with animals you end up with a zoo.

Yarn balls really are the best cat toy ever!!

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 23, 2019:

Long as you're watching and can tell the difference between cat and ball of unraveled yarn.

Mindfulness Meditation is not just a trend, in keeping ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 22, 2019:

I have learned to self hypnotize myself since I was in my 20s. This is more powerful than meditation, I also meditate but rarely. You can discover what is bothering you while hypnotized just by asking your conscious mind. You are inside your own mind as an observer or questioner. I have solved a lot of issues doing hypnosis and found things out about myself I had hidden from my conscious life. For years I would ask if there was anything about me that I didn't know or wasn't aware of and my answer (lifting a finger) was yes but never did my subconscious want me to know until the timing was right and in my 30s I was made aware of a childhood rape age 6 by a boy about 12 and remembered his name and the circumstances leading up to it. Remembering that flooded my mind with other indications that I forgot. To hypnotize yourself you need to relax in the same manner of meditation, but you lead your thoughts more and stay aware not trying to be filled with 'nothing'. You can say, when I'm hypnotized my little pinkie on my right hand will lift up and it will. You can ask questions about "why" you do some things you do tat are puzzling or hard to handle. You tell yourself your right index finger will raise up if yes and if no the left one will raise up. Lots of self discovery goes on if you're brave enough to want to know.

Blurb that came with it.

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 20, 2019:

Too hot out mom, brought the fun into the AC house.

Pew: 91% Democrats see violence next in war of words [washex.

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 20, 2019:

In our history there has never been a more crass, stupid, misogynistic, swearing raping POS who never served this country in the military. He's the sorriest excuse for a human there ever was flaunting swears and hatred towards other Americans. I believe he has committed many many crimes while serving (himself) this country and am hoping he and his family end up in jail.

This is for all you Republicans out there, Trump said because he is a celebrity he could kiss any ...

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 20, 2019:

I've heard that men who voted for tRump have a hard time getting laid. Women who will bed a tRump voter aren't the brightest bulb in the box.

What do you think the world be like with out religion?

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 20, 2019:

John said it best in his song "Imagine". Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people living life in peace Read more: John Lennon - Imagine Lyrics | MetroLyrics

This is one of those things that give me hope in humanity.

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 20, 2019:

“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” ― Mahatma Gandhi

Big game hunter killed when shot elephant collapsed on top of him

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 20, 2019:

Justice has been served.

This post is about grief.

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 18, 2019:

My boyfriend in HS was 19 when he got pissed at me (was cheating & did lots of drugs/alcohol) and he hit a tree with his car with 4 others with him. He was every girls dream bad boy and he was supremely in love with me for at least 2+years until the cheating crap began-we were living together.When he died my heart was buried with him. I haven't felt love or loved like that again. I loved my husband of 26 yrs but it wasn't the same passion I had when younger. Some people can get better at grief and I have about people but geez I cannot tolerate when one of my 4 leggers is old or ready to die. I am an emotional mess.

Federal Law Says 'Go Back To Where You Came From' Counts As Discrimination - HuffPost

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 17, 2019:

Donnie told American Indians to go back where they came from. He's dumber than sh*t.

Lost in translation and its not the first time

K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 17, 2019:

Because I come from New England everyone asks what is meant by "wicked" when I say I was wicked pissed off or the fireworks were wicked. They didn't know if it meant good or bad. From NE we probably are the only group of people who say Peta Fonder. I can't say drawer. I leave off the er.