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Ending religion lessons in schools leads to overall decline in belief but not morals | Religion | ...
FvckY0u comments on Jan 18, 2022:
So the German constitution after WWII mandated religion be taught and in that time it's been changed to not mandate it and teach something different than religion. that's good progress from where they were post war. I'd like to see that kind of progress in the states.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 18, 2022:
@TheMiddleWay I think the vast majority of Brits feel churches are for getting married in, and for christening children in, and even then that's just to shut up older relatives.
Apart for RCs most funerals are now carried out at crematorium chapels and most of them are secular services.
FvckY0u comments on Jan 18, 2022:
So the German constitution after WWII mandated religion be taught and in that time it's been changed to not mandate it and teach something different than religion. that's good progress from where they were post war. I'd like to see that kind of progress in the states.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 18, 2022:
@TheMiddleWay I think the vast majority of Brits feel churches are for getting married in, and for christening children in, and even then that's just to shut up older relatives.
Apart for RCs most funerals are now carried out at crematorium chapels and most of them are secular services.
Ending religion lessons in schools leads to overall decline in belief but not morals | Religion | ...
FvckY0u comments on Jan 18, 2022:
So the German constitution after WWII mandated religion be taught and in that time it's been changed to not mandate it and teach something different than religion. that's good progress from where they were post war. I'd like to see that kind of progress in the states.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 18, 2022:
@TheMiddleWay When I was at school we were at the age of fourteen allowed to choose which subjects, or group of subjects we wished to study to O'level.
There were however three exceptions that were legally mandated to be studied
Physical education P.E.
Maths
and
Religious Education
This was still the case when my children went through secondary education, I do not know if it is still the case.
Edit just checked as of the School Standards and Framework Act 1998 religious education is no longer mandatory, however it is legally required for all state schools to offer it as an option.
FvckY0u comments on Jan 18, 2022:
So the German constitution after WWII mandated religion be taught and in that time it's been changed to not mandate it and teach something different than religion. that's good progress from where they were post war. I'd like to see that kind of progress in the states.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 18, 2022:
@TheMiddleWay When I was at school we were at the age of fourteen allowed to choose which subjects, or group of subjects we wished to study to O'level.
There were however three exceptions that were legally mandated to be studied
Physical education P.E.
Maths
and
Religious Education
This was still the case when my children went through secondary education, I do not know if it is still the case.
Edit just checked as of the School Standards and Framework Act 1998 religious education is no longer mandatory, however it is legally required for all state schools to offer it as an option.
Atheists don’t have morals”
My morals are the only thing stopping me from becoming a pastor and...
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 17, 2022:
During one of my periods of unemployment the job centre sent me for psychometric testing to determine what career path would suit me best.
The result came back informing me that I was 100% suited to being a clergyman.
I pointed out that was stupid since I was an atheist, to which by career coach ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 18, 2022:
@altschmerz To be fair at around the same time we did in this country have an arch Bishop of York "David Jenkins" who made the news every other week because of his pronouncements that he was neither a Biblical literalist, nor a believer in Heaven and Hell, or even that he did not believe the resurrection happened. Bishop Jenkins claimed most of the "magic tricks" performed by Christ were added in later to make the bible stories more entertaining. BY the time of his retirement, he had stopped short of declaring himself an atheist, but only just.
He did however retain his position in the church and in the House of Lords, this in spite of the people of Tewkesbury blaming a catastrophic flood on his appointment and a fire at York Minster being the wrath of God because of his heresy.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 17, 2022:
During one of my periods of unemployment the job centre sent me for psychometric testing to determine what career path would suit me best.
The result came back informing me that I was 100% suited to being a clergyman.
I pointed out that was stupid since I was an atheist, to which by career coach ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 18, 2022:
@altschmerz To be fair at around the same time we did in this country have an arch Bishop of York "David Jenkins" who made the news every other week because of his pronouncements that he was neither a Biblical literalist, nor a believer in Heaven and Hell, or even that he did not believe the resurrection happened. Bishop Jenkins claimed most of the "magic tricks" performed by Christ were added in later to make the bible stories more entertaining. BY the time of his retirement, he had stopped short of declaring himself an atheist, but only just.
He did however retain his position in the church and in the House of Lords, this in spite of the people of Tewkesbury blaming a catastrophic flood on his appointment and a fire at York Minster being the wrath of God because of his heresy.
Another far right anti Vaxer dead of Covid.
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puff comments on Jan 16, 2022:
As long as she was American, all fucking good.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 17, 2022:
@puff It turns out that it is Tonga, they have had zero deaths, zero infections and are completely covid free. But now they are all likely to be killed by a volcano.
C'est la Vie or C'est la Mort as the case may be
puff comments on Jan 16, 2022:
As long as she was American, all fucking good.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 17, 2022:
@puff It turns out that it is Tonga, they have had zero deaths, zero infections and are completely covid free. But now they are all likely to be killed by a volcano.
C'est la Vie or C'est la Mort as the case may be
Another far right anti Vaxer dead of Covid.
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puff comments on Jan 16, 2022:
As long as she was American, all fucking good.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 17, 2022:
@puff New Zealand I believe
puff comments on Jan 16, 2022:
As long as she was American, all fucking good.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 17, 2022:
@puff New Zealand I believe
Another far right anti Vaxer dead of Covid.
[youtu.be]
puff comments on Jan 16, 2022:
As long as she was American, all fucking good.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 16, 2022:
Anti-vaxxers are not limited by nationality, they are all citizens of the idiocracy
puff comments on Jan 16, 2022:
As long as she was American, all fucking good.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 16, 2022:
Anti-vaxxers are not limited by nationality, they are all citizens of the idiocracy
Title song from the 1979 Monty Python's The Life of Brian, sung by Sonia Jones who was just 16 then.
Marionville comments on Jan 16, 2022:
Fine pair of lungs she had….she sounds kind of like Shirley Bassey.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 16, 2022:
@Ray13 She is today a much sought after Singing Coach based in London, two years go she featured on the sound track of the animated movie Abominable.
Her story is much like that of backing singer and demo track session artist Stevie Van Lang. A woman who almost every one would recognise her belting powerful voice from many adverts but would not know who she is.
Like Sonia Jones she had one shot at glory, which was when Jim Steinman wrote the song "Holding out for Hero for Her" and it was featured on BBC TV on "the hot shoe show", viewers wrote in their hundreds asking where they could buy a copy, the record company however refused to release Van Lang's version as she was an unknown and insisted the released version be covered by Bonnie Tyler, it was a world wide hit, but the better original version is still available on You Tube if you google it
Marionville comments on Jan 16, 2022:
Fine pair of lungs she had….she sounds kind of like Shirley Bassey.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 16, 2022:
@Ray13 She is today a much sought after Singing Coach based in London, two years go she featured on the sound track of the animated movie Abominable.
Her story is much like that of backing singer and demo track session artist Stevie Van Lang. A woman who almost every one would recognise her belting powerful voice from many adverts but would not know who she is.
Like Sonia Jones she had one shot at glory, which was when Jim Steinman wrote the song "Holding out for Hero for Her" and it was featured on BBC TV on "the hot shoe show", viewers wrote in their hundreds asking where they could buy a copy, the record company however refused to release Van Lang's version as she was an unknown and insisted the released version be covered by Bonnie Tyler, it was a world wide hit, but the better original version is still available on You Tube if you google it
Here is the beautiful voice of Nat King Cole singing Stardust which is also the theme to my perhaps ...
Sierra4 comments on Jan 16, 2022:
Great song and movie. Peter O’Toole’s character was brilliant.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 16, 2022:
Yes The Character of Alan Swan was based on Errol Flynn and his 1957 appearance on Sid Caesar's "Your show of Shows". Benji Stone is based on the young Mel Brookes who was a junior writer at the time charged with keeping Flynn sober and present.
Sierra4 comments on Jan 16, 2022:
Great song and movie. Peter O’Toole’s character was brilliant.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 16, 2022:
Yes The Character of Alan Swan was based on Errol Flynn and his 1957 appearance on Sid Caesar's "Your show of Shows". Benji Stone is based on the young Mel Brookes who was a junior writer at the time charged with keeping Flynn sober and present.
Here is the beautiful voice of Nat King Cole singing Stardust which is also the theme to my perhaps ...
bobwjr comments on Jan 16, 2022:
Nat was a awesome performer
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 16, 2022:
His voice had unique qualities that (for me at least) could, even on the darkest of days, make you believe things are going to be all okay after all and make you smile.
bobwjr comments on Jan 16, 2022:
Nat was a awesome performer
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 16, 2022:
His voice had unique qualities that (for me at least) could, even on the darkest of days, make you believe things are going to be all okay after all and make you smile.
GLAUR.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 16, 2022:
Slaister. a sloppy mess.
SLAISTER
by James King Annand MBE
Mum cries me a slaister,
Says naethin could be waur
Nor mellin sand and water
And slaisterin in the glaur.
When I'm aa glaur and slaistert
And clarty as a tink
Mum maks a graith o soap suds
And plops me in the sink.
...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 16, 2022:
@Marionville MY mother favoured the Teesside favourite "Mucky Buggar"
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 16, 2022:
Slaister. a sloppy mess.
SLAISTER
by James King Annand MBE
Mum cries me a slaister,
Says naethin could be waur
Nor mellin sand and water
And slaisterin in the glaur.
When I'm aa glaur and slaistert
And clarty as a tink
Mum maks a graith o soap suds
And plops me in the sink.
...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 16, 2022:
@Marionville MY mother favoured the Teesside favourite "Mucky Buggar"
Trailblaze
verb (used with object)
to be a pioneer in (a particular subject, technique, ...
FrayedBear comments on Jan 14, 2022:
Are there many of those around these days? As Billy Connolly says "the world has become beige".
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 14, 2022:
The beige people AKA the v neck sweater and Volvo driving members of the surname clan as Billy called them.
FrayedBear comments on Jan 14, 2022:
Are there many of those around these days? As Billy Connolly says "the world has become beige".
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 14, 2022:
The beige people AKA the v neck sweater and Volvo driving members of the surname clan as Billy called them.
Can we survive without money?
waitingforgodo comments on Jan 13, 2022:
In it's stead what would you propose that we trade?
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 13, 2022:
Trade is a social construct, in an ideal world no one would trade, everyone would contribute according to ability and receive according to need. A society based on altruism not avarice.
waitingforgodo comments on Jan 13, 2022:
In it's stead what would you propose that we trade?
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 13, 2022:
Trade is a social construct, in an ideal world no one would trade, everyone would contribute according to ability and receive according to need. A society based on altruism not avarice.
(Most gun violence is cowardly, but drive-bys are the lowest of the low.
JackPedigo comments on Jan 11, 2022:
Of course, why carry a weapon that kills from a distance unless one was cowardly.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 13, 2022:
@FearlessFly Not an appropriate response in this context.
JackPedigo comments on Jan 11, 2022:
Of course, why carry a weapon that kills from a distance unless one was cowardly.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 13, 2022:
@FearlessFly Not an appropriate response in this context.
(Most gun violence is cowardly, but drive-bys are the lowest of the low.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 11, 2022:
I am beyond words, so angry, so sad. That poor, poor child.
Edit an update
https://www.wrdw.com/2022/01/11/suspects-questioned-8-year-old-homicide-investigation/
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 13, 2022:
@miklthetaz You can never "replace" a deceased child, even less so one senselessly murdered.
One may have other children and love them equally, but "replace" a loved one... never.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 11, 2022:
I am beyond words, so angry, so sad. That poor, poor child.
Edit an update
https://www.wrdw.com/2022/01/11/suspects-questioned-8-year-old-homicide-investigation/
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 13, 2022:
@miklthetaz You can never "replace" a deceased child, even less so one senselessly murdered.
One may have other children and love them equally, but "replace" a loved one... never.
Yes perfect
RichCC comments on Jan 12, 2022:
They're all perfect.🙂
Is that a Wookie or an Ewok? It's definitely cute.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 12, 2022:
Is it a weewokie?
RichCC comments on Jan 12, 2022:
They're all perfect.🙂
Is that a Wookie or an Ewok? It's definitely cute.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 12, 2022:
Is it a weewokie?
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian You might want to read this before "daring to be a Daniel"
A church leader had his buttocks mauled by a lion after running towards a pride in a bid to prove the 'Lord's power '.
Alec Ndiwane, a Zion Christian Church prophet, was attacked on a safari while trying to show that God ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 12, 2022:
@Madisonian If I have actually helped you to think about these things then that is all that I can ask.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian You might want to read this before "daring to be a Daniel"
A church leader had his buttocks mauled by a lion after running towards a pride in a bid to prove the 'Lord's power '.
Alec Ndiwane, a Zion Christian Church prophet, was attacked on a safari while trying to show that God ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 12, 2022:
@Madisonian If I have actually helped you to think about these things then that is all that I can ask.
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Okay I have scanned through your replies here to other posters and basically you are revamping the old "There can be no morality without god" argument, just substituting Morality for rationality.
This argument proceeds from a presupposition that because there is a god and all things come from ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 12, 2022:
@Madisonian
No, I meant exactly what I said.
For example, the rings of Saturn move in almost perfect order, evidence gathered from exploration show the did not always do so, but the chaotic elements in time reduced to dust because of their very nature, leaving only the orderly orbital rings we see today.
An earth bound example is erosion caused by rivers being formed, when the rain water first began to flow as you say, down hill it rushed about chaotically, but in time finding the path of least resistance it formed a channel, then a river causing an orderly less wasteful flow of water back to the sea by the most efficient root.
“Order arise from chaos.” Ilya Prigogine
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Okay I have scanned through your replies here to other posters and basically you are revamping the old "There can be no morality without god" argument, just substituting Morality for rationality.
This argument proceeds from a presupposition that because there is a god and all things come from ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 12, 2022:
@Madisonian
No, I meant exactly what I said.
For example, the rings of Saturn move in almost perfect order, evidence gathered from exploration show the did not always do so, but the chaotic elements in time reduced to dust because of their very nature, leaving only the orderly orbital rings we see today.
An earth bound example is erosion caused by rivers being formed, when the rain water first began to flow as you say, down hill it rushed about chaotically, but in time finding the path of least resistance it formed a channel, then a river causing an orderly less wasteful flow of water back to the sea by the most efficient root.
“Order arise from chaos.” Ilya Prigogine
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian You might want to read this before "daring to be a Daniel"
A church leader had his buttocks mauled by a lion after running towards a pride in a bid to prove the 'Lord's power '.
Alec Ndiwane, a Zion Christian Church prophet, was attacked on a safari while trying to show that God ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 12, 2022:
@Madisonian
Basically if there is eternal life - I will have eternity to explore and learn - in time - I think there will time - to possibly have as much knowledge as exists today in all of the disciplines in a modern first class university.
*Eternal life is a hideous idea, it is basically a period of learning and discovery followed by an eternity of boredom, disappointment and inescapable stagnation. Sounds like Hell to me.*
Heighten ability to enjoy music, yes worship - and to create art.
*As above, there is not enough music art or knowledge to fill an infinite amount of time. An eternity of worship and pandering to a narcissist god who demands constant attention? No, thank you!*
I think God created us to know - He wants us to discover and to know - because the more knowledge we have, the better we can worship Him.
*God's greatest gift to humankind, was apparently free will, but then he forbids its use, punishes the questioner, refuses to allow entry to heaven to those who use free will to disagree with him, and burns eternally those who stand up for the right to disagree. If god did create us and this was his plan, he is a dick, who just wants sycophantic toys to play with in order to fill his own hell of eternal existence.*
To enjoy close relationship - far surpassing anything we can experience here.
*The bible say there are no marriages or close relationships in heaven, and when St. Paul talks about this it is to ensure you can have no privacy in heaven and no secrets see above post*
And to engage in satisfying work - gardening maybe - and animal husbandry -
*Again the bible says only those who have been saved and accepted the salvation of Jesus can enter heaven, so no animals as they cannot be saved, nor can they repent. And apparently heavenly trees grow themselves and produce fruit once a month every month, but since no one eats or drinks in heaven god only knows why, again see above*
It seems to me things like this will not be far off the mark, but no one could be authoritative about it.
*The Bible claims to be*
It's just my conception - an incredible increase in the ability to learn, discover and enjoy.
*We are talking about infinite time and eternal life, here you could never fill it, never mind enjoy it.*
If man can make sci-fi movies - if they can use their imaginations to create sci-fi movies with incredible special effects - why not imagine what an all knowing, all powerful God can do.
*Yes it is terrifying, especially if you consider what according to the bible he has already done and plans to do in the future, he is a genocidal tyrant who in a fit of rage drowned the whole world for being naughty for example*
Parents give good things to their children - why not expect God to give good things to his?
*Because the two situations are ...
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian You might want to read this before "daring to be a Daniel"
A church leader had his buttocks mauled by a lion after running towards a pride in a bid to prove the 'Lord's power '.
Alec Ndiwane, a Zion Christian Church prophet, was attacked on a safari while trying to show that God ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 12, 2022:
@Madisonian
Basically if there is eternal life - I will have eternity to explore and learn - in time - I think there will time - to possibly have as much knowledge as exists today in all of the disciplines in a modern first class university.
*Eternal life is a hideous idea, it is basically a period of learning and discovery followed by an eternity of boredom, disappointment and inescapable stagnation. Sounds like Hell to me.*
Heighten ability to enjoy music, yes worship - and to create art.
*As above, there is not enough music art or knowledge to fill an infinite amount of time. An eternity of worship and pandering to a narcissist god who demands constant attention? No, thank you!*
I think God created us to know - He wants us to discover and to know - because the more knowledge we have, the better we can worship Him.
*God's greatest gift to humankind, was apparently free will, but then he forbids its use, punishes the questioner, refuses to allow entry to heaven to those who use free will to disagree with him, and burns eternally those who stand up for the right to disagree. If god did create us and this was his plan, he is a dick, who just wants sycophantic toys to play with in order to fill his own hell of eternal existence.*
To enjoy close relationship - far surpassing anything we can experience here.
*The bible say there are no marriages or close relationships in heaven, and when St. Paul talks about this it is to ensure you can have no privacy in heaven and no secrets see above post*
And to engage in satisfying work - gardening maybe - and animal husbandry -
*Again the bible says only those who have been saved and accepted the salvation of Jesus can enter heaven, so no animals as they cannot be saved, nor can they repent. And apparently heavenly trees grow themselves and produce fruit once a month every month, but since no one eats or drinks in heaven god only knows why, again see above*
It seems to me things like this will not be far off the mark, but no one could be authoritative about it.
*The Bible claims to be*
It's just my conception - an incredible increase in the ability to learn, discover and enjoy.
*We are talking about infinite time and eternal life, here you could never fill it, never mind enjoy it.*
If man can make sci-fi movies - if they can use their imaginations to create sci-fi movies with incredible special effects - why not imagine what an all knowing, all powerful God can do.
*Yes it is terrifying, especially if you consider what according to the bible he has already done and plans to do in the future, he is a genocidal tyrant who in a fit of rage drowned the whole world for being naughty for example*
Parents give good things to their children - why not expect God to give good things to his?
*Because the two situations are ...
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian You might want to read this before "daring to be a Daniel"
A church leader had his buttocks mauled by a lion after running towards a pride in a bid to prove the 'Lord's power '.
Alec Ndiwane, a Zion Christian Church prophet, was attacked on a safari while trying to show that God ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 12, 2022:
@Madisonian Lucy (2014) is an uncredited rip-off of the earlier Japanese Novel, manga and TV series Elfin Leid, about a woman "Lucy" who is subject to a government super soldier programme using drug enhancement to boost her psychic powers and becomes practically a god who cannot be contained.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian You might want to read this before "daring to be a Daniel"
A church leader had his buttocks mauled by a lion after running towards a pride in a bid to prove the 'Lord's power '.
Alec Ndiwane, a Zion Christian Church prophet, was attacked on a safari while trying to show that God ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 12, 2022:
@Madisonian Lucy (2014) is an uncredited rip-off of the earlier Japanese Novel, manga and TV series Elfin Leid, about a woman "Lucy" who is subject to a government super soldier programme using drug enhancement to boost her psychic powers and becomes practically a god who cannot be contained.
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian You might want to read this before "daring to be a Daniel"
A church leader had his buttocks mauled by a lion after running towards a pride in a bid to prove the 'Lord's power '.
Alec Ndiwane, a Zion Christian Church prophet, was attacked on a safari while trying to show that God ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 12, 2022:
@Madisonian The Bible does not give us any information about Heaven?
Sure about that?
(John 14:2-3) heaven contains many mansions
(Revelation 21:16) Actual measurements of the size of Heaven
(Hebrews 12:22-23) Purposes of Heaven
(Revelation 4:1-11) Detailed description of the palace of God in heaven
(Revelation 7:9-10) The throne room of heaven
(Revelation 7:15-17). The fountains and weather in heaven
(Revelation 11:19) The temples of heaven and the weather therein (stormy)
(Revelation 14:13) Heaven is the resting place of the dead
(1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) Everyone in heaven is asleep, awaiting the day of resurrection
(ROMANS 14:17) No eating and drinking in heaven
(Revelation 19:11-14) The Army of Heaven
(Revelation 21:9-11). The Jewels and decoration of heaven
(Revelation 21:19) More about the interior and exterior bejewelling of heaven and even its foundation
(Revelation 21:21) The golden roads, pearly gates and glass walls of heaven
(Revelation 22:2) Parks filled with trees in heaven
(Revelation 22:4-5) The sources of light in Heaven
(2 Corinthians 12.2–4) The Levels of heaven (at least three)
(2 Corinthians 5:1) Buildings in heaven are indestructible
(Hebrews 11:16) (Hebrews 11:10) (Jeremiah 10:12) (Psalm 103:11) Heaven is a city designed by god in the sky
(Revelation 21:1-5) (2 Peter 3:10) Heaven is not eternal and will pass away to be replaced with a better one on a new earth.
(Judges 6:24) God's heaven is a place of peace
(Revelation 12:7-9) War in heaven
(Romans 1:18) Heaven is the place of god's wrath
(1 Corinthians 13:12) No secrets or privacy in heaven.
(Isaiah 11:6) Heaven has animals
(Matthew 18:3) Heaven does not have animals, only people
(Matthew 22 :29) No marriage or sex in heaven
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian You might want to read this before "daring to be a Daniel"
A church leader had his buttocks mauled by a lion after running towards a pride in a bid to prove the 'Lord's power '.
Alec Ndiwane, a Zion Christian Church prophet, was attacked on a safari while trying to show that God ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 12, 2022:
@Madisonian The Bible does not give us any information about Heaven?
Sure about that?
(John 14:2-3) heaven contains many mansions
(Revelation 21:16) Actual measurements of the size of Heaven
(Hebrews 12:22-23) Purposes of Heaven
(Revelation 4:1-11) Detailed description of the palace of God in heaven
(Revelation 7:9-10) The throne room of heaven
(Revelation 7:15-17). The fountains and weather in heaven
(Revelation 11:19) The temples of heaven and the weather therein (stormy)
(Revelation 14:13) Heaven is the resting place of the dead
(1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) Everyone in heaven is asleep, awaiting the day of resurrection
(ROMANS 14:17) No eating and drinking in heaven
(Revelation 19:11-14) The Army of Heaven
(Revelation 21:9-11). The Jewels and decoration of heaven
(Revelation 21:19) More about the interior and exterior bejewelling of heaven and even its foundation
(Revelation 21:21) The golden roads, pearly gates and glass walls of heaven
(Revelation 22:2) Parks filled with trees in heaven
(Revelation 22:4-5) The sources of light in Heaven
(2 Corinthians 12.2–4) The Levels of heaven (at least three)
(2 Corinthians 5:1) Buildings in heaven are indestructible
(Hebrews 11:16) (Hebrews 11:10) (Jeremiah 10:12) (Psalm 103:11) Heaven is a city designed by god in the sky
(Revelation 21:1-5) (2 Peter 3:10) Heaven is not eternal and will pass away to be replaced with a better one on a new earth.
(Judges 6:24) God's heaven is a place of peace
(Revelation 12:7-9) War in heaven
(Romans 1:18) Heaven is the place of god's wrath
(1 Corinthians 13:12) No secrets or privacy in heaven.
(Isaiah 11:6) Heaven has animals
(Matthew 18:3) Heaven does not have animals, only people
(Matthew 22 :29) No marriage or sex in heaven
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian You might want to read this before "daring to be a Daniel"
A church leader had his buttocks mauled by a lion after running towards a pride in a bid to prove the 'Lord's power '.
Alec Ndiwane, a Zion Christian Church prophet, was attacked on a safari while trying to show that God ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 11, 2022:
@Triphid According to many of the eminent theologians of time gone by, the main pass time of those resident in the "bliss " of heaven is watching the damned souls in hell being tortured for all time, and relishing in their misery.
How "Christian"
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian You might want to read this before "daring to be a Daniel"
A church leader had his buttocks mauled by a lion after running towards a pride in a bid to prove the 'Lord's power '.
Alec Ndiwane, a Zion Christian Church prophet, was attacked on a safari while trying to show that God ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 11, 2022:
@Triphid According to many of the eminent theologians of time gone by, the main pass time of those resident in the "bliss " of heaven is watching the damned souls in hell being tortured for all time, and relishing in their misery.
How "Christian"
What Is 'Love Bombing'?
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 11, 2022:
I've never heard the term used in this context, However when I was a Mormon stake missionary we were trained in the technique of Love bombing.
It is a method of preventing a possible apostate and of persuading doubting investigators to go that one last step and be baptised.
It begins with friend...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 11, 2022:
@dalefvictor A pastor for the FSM funny 😄😄😄
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 11, 2022:
I've never heard the term used in this context, However when I was a Mormon stake missionary we were trained in the technique of Love bombing.
It is a method of preventing a possible apostate and of persuading doubting investigators to go that one last step and be baptised.
It begins with friend...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 11, 2022:
@dalefvictor A pastor for the FSM funny 😄😄😄
What Is 'Love Bombing'?
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 11, 2022:
I've never heard the term used in this context, However when I was a Mormon stake missionary we were trained in the technique of Love bombing.
It is a method of preventing a possible apostate and of persuading doubting investigators to go that one last step and be baptised.
It begins with friend...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 11, 2022:
@Mooolah
I always thought something like the Church of New Ending Messiahdom or CON'EM For short.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 11, 2022:
I've never heard the term used in this context, However when I was a Mormon stake missionary we were trained in the technique of Love bombing.
It is a method of preventing a possible apostate and of persuading doubting investigators to go that one last step and be baptised.
It begins with friend...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 11, 2022:
@Mooolah
I always thought something like the Church of New Ending Messiahdom or CON'EM For short.
Vaccine Appointments Quadruple After Quebec Requires Shots For Liquor Stores | Crooks and Liars
Charlene comments on Jan 10, 2022:
I believe the old adage 'liquor is quicker' is true, as in ths case..lol
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 11, 2022:
"Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker" Willie Wonka
Charlene comments on Jan 10, 2022:
I believe the old adage 'liquor is quicker' is true, as in ths case..lol
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 11, 2022:
"Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker" Willie Wonka
I think our need to be number one has done as much damage to the American psyche as any addictive ...
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 10, 2022:
The problem is not that Americans are patriotic
The problem is not that Americans love their country
The problem is not that Americans are proud to be Americans
Those are all fine
The Problems are that a significant minority Americans think every other country in the world is shit, that non ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
@Lorajay I did say a significant minority
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 10, 2022:
The problem is not that Americans are patriotic
The problem is not that Americans love their country
The problem is not that Americans are proud to be Americans
Those are all fine
The Problems are that a significant minority Americans think every other country in the world is shit, that non ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
@Lorajay I did say a significant minority
Canadian Group Men Without Hats - Safety Dance, featured the mother of the current Canadian PM ...
Redheadedgammy comments on Jan 10, 2022:
Video unavailable for us in the USA.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
Try this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-FlrqHE5MY
Redheadedgammy comments on Jan 10, 2022:
Video unavailable for us in the USA.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
Try this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-FlrqHE5MY
“Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven”……………John Milton.
Mcflewster comments on Jan 10, 2022:
Surely to 'Reign' you must be the devil. Anyone can serve.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
In the poem, the line is spoken by Satan after having been cast down after the war in Heaven
Mcflewster comments on Jan 10, 2022:
Surely to 'Reign' you must be the devil. Anyone can serve.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
In the poem, the line is spoken by Satan after having been cast down after the war in Heaven
AXIOMATIC.
Cast1es comments on Jan 10, 2022:
Historically speaking , sometimes what appeared to be axiomatic , was later proven to be untrue . For instance , for a long time , people thought the sun rotated around the earth , and the earth was the center of things .
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
That is basic science, an idea maybe considered axiomatic until proven false or may move from being axiomatic into being a maxim when tested and proven factual
Cast1es comments on Jan 10, 2022:
Historically speaking , sometimes what appeared to be axiomatic , was later proven to be untrue . For instance , for a long time , people thought the sun rotated around the earth , and the earth was the center of things .
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
That is basic science, an idea maybe considered axiomatic until proven false or may move from being axiomatic into being a maxim when tested and proven factual
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
waitingforgodo comments on Jan 8, 2022:
A "Bible believing Christian who thinks this is the most rational way to perceive reality."
Can we start with the ark?
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
@Madisonian
When you say Christ created everything (or God through Christ) that is a rabbit hole in to the Trinitarian doctrine, which I will reserve the right to return to at another time, as it will be too much of a distraction at this time.
Evolutionary biology, like all forms of science is an ongoing story, all scientists, or at least all good scientists, are forever questioning and investigating their field of study in order to further it and expand upon it, as well as to dismiss incorrect ideas and improve the body of knowledge.
Questioning an idea does not mean it is wrong, it simply means that all theories are always open to question, conformation or rejection, according to the Evidence as it become available.
Guided evolution, is a misnomer, there is a word for it and that is Eugenics or more commonly "Breeding Stock".
Eugenics however does not explain actual evolution and natural adaptation as it is not a natural process.
If the Christian god is a eugenicist one has to conclude he is not very good at it since nature is filled with faults, evolutionary bottlenecks, extinctions and genetic diseases.
*"Its one thing to be willing to consider arguments for or against and quite another to say "I have integrated this into my faith." "*
True, but this again seems to imply that you see a difference between faith and truth, I personally will always follow the evidence to find truth, rather than seek evidence that might not even exist in order to support unsubstantiated faith.
The word Gnostic comes from the Greek gnōstikos "knowing, good at knowing, able to discern,"
If that is truly how you see yourself, then be true to it and then perhaps (if you will forgive the impudence) as your messiah has it "Seek and ye shall find" Matthew 7:7
waitingforgodo comments on Jan 8, 2022:
A "Bible believing Christian who thinks this is the most rational way to perceive reality."
Can we start with the ark?
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
@Madisonian
When you say Christ created everything (or God through Christ) that is a rabbit hole in to the Trinitarian doctrine, which I will reserve the right to return to at another time, as it will be too much of a distraction at this time.
Evolutionary biology, like all forms of science is an ongoing story, all scientists, or at least all good scientists, are forever questioning and investigating their field of study in order to further it and expand upon it, as well as to dismiss incorrect ideas and improve the body of knowledge.
Questioning an idea does not mean it is wrong, it simply means that all theories are always open to question, conformation or rejection, according to the Evidence as it become available.
Guided evolution, is a misnomer, there is a word for it and that is Eugenics or more commonly "Breeding Stock".
Eugenics however does not explain actual evolution and natural adaptation as it is not a natural process.
If the Christian god is a eugenicist one has to conclude he is not very good at it since nature is filled with faults, evolutionary bottlenecks, extinctions and genetic diseases.
*"Its one thing to be willing to consider arguments for or against and quite another to say "I have integrated this into my faith." "*
True, but this again seems to imply that you see a difference between faith and truth, I personally will always follow the evidence to find truth, rather than seek evidence that might not even exist in order to support unsubstantiated faith.
The word Gnostic comes from the Greek gnōstikos "knowing, good at knowing, able to discern,"
If that is truly how you see yourself, then be true to it and then perhaps (if you will forgive the impudence) as your messiah has it "Seek and ye shall find" Matthew 7:7
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Okay I have scanned through your replies here to other posters and basically you are revamping the old "There can be no morality without god" argument, just substituting Morality for rationality.
This argument proceeds from a presupposition that because there is a god and all things come from ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
@Madisonian
Oh, one more thing to illustrate the dishonesty of Mr Copán
*"Another naturalist philosopher, Ned Block, declares that researchers are *“stumped”* regarding the emergence of consciousness (or subjective experience)"*
Block is a respected scientist and Copán uses one single word as a quote from him to back up his own argument out of contexts and then follows it up with:_
*"From matter; there is *“nothing—zilch—worthy of being called a research programme”* to explain this phenomenon"*
Which is NOT a quote from Block, it is a quote from Theologian Peter Williams, made to look as if it is coming from the actual scientist. A cheap, nasty and intellectually dishonest trick.
I thought this might interest you.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Okay I have scanned through your replies here to other posters and basically you are revamping the old "There can be no morality without god" argument, just substituting Morality for rationality.
This argument proceeds from a presupposition that because there is a god and all things come from ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
@Madisonian
Oh, one more thing to illustrate the dishonesty of Mr Copán
*"Another naturalist philosopher, Ned Block, declares that researchers are *“stumped”* regarding the emergence of consciousness (or subjective experience)"*
Block is a respected scientist and Copán uses one single word as a quote from him to back up his own argument out of contexts and then follows it up with:_
*"From matter; there is *“nothing—zilch—worthy of being called a research programme”* to explain this phenomenon"*
Which is NOT a quote from Block, it is a quote from Theologian Peter Williams, made to look as if it is coming from the actual scientist. A cheap, nasty and intellectually dishonest trick.
I thought this might interest you.
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Okay I have scanned through your replies here to other posters and basically you are revamping the old "There can be no morality without god" argument, just substituting Morality for rationality.
This argument proceeds from a presupposition that because there is a god and all things come from ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
@Madisonian
Okay, here we go again
Paul Copán gained all of his qualifications at unaccredited Christian sponsored universities and bible colleges as are his current past employers, he has NEVER worked or trained at an actual university or college. He styles himself "An expert apologetic", his entire livelihood and reputation is basically based on "Preaching to the choir" in order to maintain his own fan base (many of his own books are required purchases for students taking his own courses, a nice little scam.)
He is not impartial or objective, you may as well be quoting from Kent Hovid and Ken Ham (or worse still Kirk Cameron ;) )
His points are trite and easily debunked and ultimately reduce down to "Ignore them, and they will go away" He builds arguments on presuppositions and theological assumptions. He quotes from like-minded alumni of Jesuit and Lutheran colleges in a reciprocal arrangement and an exercise in mutual back patting.
You are obviously an intelligent person, the level of your correspondence proves that, but you will insist on taking the words of self-proclaimed experts on "blind faith" without seeking to see what has actually motivated their writings.
I ask that you step back and regard this subject more objectively, setting aside your personal views and approach the study of the philosophy, sociology and scientific evolution of religion with an open mind.
I will not insult you by asking you to read the modern popular "Atheist Superstars" such as Dawkins, Hitchen or Sam Harris, instead I will recommend as a starting point the highly distinguished philosopher Bertrand Russell book "Why I am Not a Christian" for a logical cogent and impartial discussion on the rejection of faith and theology. Secondly I recommend Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason, and finally you might find the works of Baruch Spinoza, one of the earliest public proponents of rationalism and Atheism in the western world interesting.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Okay I have scanned through your replies here to other posters and basically you are revamping the old "There can be no morality without god" argument, just substituting Morality for rationality.
This argument proceeds from a presupposition that because there is a god and all things come from ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 10, 2022:
@Madisonian
Okay, here we go again
Paul Copán gained all of his qualifications at unaccredited Christian sponsored universities and bible colleges as are his current past employers, he has NEVER worked or trained at an actual university or college. He styles himself "An expert apologetic", his entire livelihood and reputation is basically based on "Preaching to the choir" in order to maintain his own fan base (many of his own books are required purchases for students taking his own courses, a nice little scam.)
He is not impartial or objective, you may as well be quoting from Kent Hovid and Ken Ham (or worse still Kirk Cameron ;) )
His points are trite and easily debunked and ultimately reduce down to "Ignore them, and they will go away" He builds arguments on presuppositions and theological assumptions. He quotes from like-minded alumni of Jesuit and Lutheran colleges in a reciprocal arrangement and an exercise in mutual back patting.
You are obviously an intelligent person, the level of your correspondence proves that, but you will insist on taking the words of self-proclaimed experts on "blind faith" without seeking to see what has actually motivated their writings.
I ask that you step back and regard this subject more objectively, setting aside your personal views and approach the study of the philosophy, sociology and scientific evolution of religion with an open mind.
I will not insult you by asking you to read the modern popular "Atheist Superstars" such as Dawkins, Hitchen or Sam Harris, instead I will recommend as a starting point the highly distinguished philosopher Bertrand Russell book "Why I am Not a Christian" for a logical cogent and impartial discussion on the rejection of faith and theology. Secondly I recommend Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason, and finally you might find the works of Baruch Spinoza, one of the earliest public proponents of rationalism and Atheism in the western world interesting.
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
waitingforgodo comments on Jan 8, 2022:
A "Bible believing Christian who thinks this is the most rational way to perceive reality."
Can we start with the ark?
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 9, 2022:
@Madisonian Am I to understand from this that you are a creationist? That you take the first chapters of Genesis as literal reporting of actual events? That you accept the premise of a talking snake, the fall of man being attributable to an act of scrumping and the common ancestry of everyone on earth being traceable back to two nudists in a magic garden?
waitingforgodo comments on Jan 8, 2022:
A "Bible believing Christian who thinks this is the most rational way to perceive reality."
Can we start with the ark?
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 9, 2022:
@Madisonian Am I to understand from this that you are a creationist? That you take the first chapters of Genesis as literal reporting of actual events? That you accept the premise of a talking snake, the fall of man being attributable to an act of scrumping and the common ancestry of everyone on earth being traceable back to two nudists in a magic garden?
Charlize Theron
Canndue comments on Jan 9, 2022:
Excellent actress, mesmerizing beauty. Is this photoshopped? Don’t recall the breasts this large
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 9, 2022:
Yes it is, they are not, and see above
Canndue comments on Jan 9, 2022:
Excellent actress, mesmerizing beauty. Is this photoshopped? Don’t recall the breasts this large
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 9, 2022:
Yes it is, they are not, and see above
Bildungsroman
noun
a type of novel concerned with the education, development, and maturing ...
FrayedBear comments on Jan 8, 2022:
The odds that I will ever use the word or even read one - about 1,000,000⁷⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰!
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 9, 2022:
@Davekp and perhaps only a cynic would describe a realist as a malcontent? ;)
FrayedBear comments on Jan 8, 2022:
The odds that I will ever use the word or even read one - about 1,000,000⁷⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰!
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 9, 2022:
@Davekp and perhaps only a cynic would describe a realist as a malcontent? ;)
Bildungsroman
noun
a type of novel concerned with the education, development, and maturing ...
FrayedBear comments on Jan 8, 2022:
The odds that I will ever use the word or even read one - about 1,000,000⁷⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰!
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 9, 2022:
@Davekp that might be disputable, as Gatsby is actually a parody (or perhaps even a Satire) on "the Bright Young Things" and the writers of social melodrama.
The novel was so brilliantly written, the humour of it flew straight over the heads of the very people it was mocking.
F. Scott Fitzgerald had a great sense of humour and on the strength of the success of Gatsby was placed under contract with Samuel Goldwyn pictures. There he asked to be placed in the comedy department, but was refused and instead was ordered to write an updating of Raffles: The Amateur Cracksman, a popular crime thriller about a gentleman thief starring David Niven and Olivia de Havilland.
Goldwyn was never a popular figure and was notorious for his temper, his grumpy disposition, his gold teeth and pungent halitosis, but Fitzgerald nevertheless acquiesced and set to work
Goldwyn was given a copy of the first scene of Fitzgerald's script, which had Niven starring romantically into the face of de Havilland
**Raffles**
Smile
**Gwen**
Why?
**Raffles**
Smile for me
*GWEN smiles while staring in to RAFFLES' eyes*
**Raffles**
Wider
*GWEN smiles wider*
**Raffles**
You really need to find a better dentist
Goldwyn fired Fitzgerald on the spot.
FrayedBear comments on Jan 8, 2022:
The odds that I will ever use the word or even read one - about 1,000,000⁷⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰!
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 9, 2022:
@Davekp that might be disputable, as Gatsby is actually a parody (or perhaps even a Satire) on "the Bright Young Things" and the writers of social melodrama.
The novel was so brilliantly written, the humour of it flew straight over the heads of the very people it was mocking.
F. Scott Fitzgerald had a great sense of humour and on the strength of the success of Gatsby was placed under contract with Samuel Goldwyn pictures. There he asked to be placed in the comedy department, but was refused and instead was ordered to write an updating of Raffles: The Amateur Cracksman, a popular crime thriller about a gentleman thief starring David Niven and Olivia de Havilland.
Goldwyn was never a popular figure and was notorious for his temper, his grumpy disposition, his gold teeth and pungent halitosis, but Fitzgerald nevertheless acquiesced and set to work
Goldwyn was given a copy of the first scene of Fitzgerald's script, which had Niven starring romantically into the face of de Havilland
**Raffles**
Smile
**Gwen**
Why?
**Raffles**
Smile for me
*GWEN smiles while staring in to RAFFLES' eyes*
**Raffles**
Wider
*GWEN smiles wider*
**Raffles**
You really need to find a better dentist
Goldwyn fired Fitzgerald on the spot.
Sadly true...
JennyRad comments on Jan 8, 2022:
I don't think I'll ever understand why.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 8, 2022:
Science hard, sky daddy easy
JennyRad comments on Jan 8, 2022:
I don't think I'll ever understand why.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 8, 2022:
Science hard, sky daddy easy
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
anglophone comments on Jan 7, 2022:
What are your reasons for belief?
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 8, 2022:
@Madisonian
You do know that Gary Habermas gained his PhD with his thesis "The resurrection of Jesus: a rational inquiry" from Michigan State University, a Roman Catholic University directly run by the Roman Catholic Church in 1974. MSU is not to be confused with the University of Michigan, a secular university that does not require students to be practising Christians.
This makes his achievement a little less impressive in my opinion.
anglophone comments on Jan 7, 2022:
What are your reasons for belief?
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 8, 2022:
@Madisonian
You do know that Gary Habermas gained his PhD with his thesis "The resurrection of Jesus: a rational inquiry" from Michigan State University, a Roman Catholic University directly run by the Roman Catholic Church in 1974. MSU is not to be confused with the University of Michigan, a secular university that does not require students to be practising Christians.
This makes his achievement a little less impressive in my opinion.
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
waitingforgodo comments on Jan 8, 2022:
A "Bible believing Christian who thinks this is the most rational way to perceive reality."
Can we start with the ark?
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 8, 2022:
@Madisonian
Sorry but NO. Associates for Biblical Research is associated only with unaccredited religiously sponsored bible colleges, it is a creationist organisation founded in 1969 by" David Livingston" (No not that one) for the purposes of QUOTE
***" demonstrating the historical reliability and accuracy of the Scriptures and to propagate the Christian faith ... based on the conviction that the Bible is the Word of God and, therefore, infallible, inerrant and authoritative in its original writings.***
It's "scholarly" articles are not peer reviewed, and it is not part of or recognised by Archaeological Institute of America.
Likewise, Hugh Ross' Reasons to believe website is another creationist nonsense organisation with no scientific credibility, that has largely destroyed the career of former astrophysicist Ross.
Please for the sake of your own credibility check out your sources before you quote from them.
waitingforgodo comments on Jan 8, 2022:
A "Bible believing Christian who thinks this is the most rational way to perceive reality."
Can we start with the ark?
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 8, 2022:
@Madisonian
Sorry but NO. Associates for Biblical Research is associated only with unaccredited religiously sponsored bible colleges, it is a creationist organisation founded in 1969 by" David Livingston" (No not that one) for the purposes of QUOTE
***" demonstrating the historical reliability and accuracy of the Scriptures and to propagate the Christian faith ... based on the conviction that the Bible is the Word of God and, therefore, infallible, inerrant and authoritative in its original writings.***
It's "scholarly" articles are not peer reviewed, and it is not part of or recognised by Archaeological Institute of America.
Likewise, Hugh Ross' Reasons to believe website is another creationist nonsense organisation with no scientific credibility, that has largely destroyed the career of former astrophysicist Ross.
Please for the sake of your own credibility check out your sources before you quote from them.
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Okay I have scanned through your replies here to other posters and basically you are revamping the old "There can be no morality without god" argument, just substituting Morality for rationality.
This argument proceeds from a presupposition that because there is a god and all things come from ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 8, 2022:
@Madisonian Forgive me if I address your last post point by point.
But are we merely animals? Merely physical beings
*Yes*
In any factual subject there are, of course, right and wrong answers or ideas that seem to more credible than others.
*What is a non-factual subject?*
In philosophy - not so much. There are laws of logic, and we should seek to have our ideas conform to them.
*Yes and logic requires facts to of as premises, facts are not opinions, feelings or wild guesses*
But then there are the big questions that we have to answer for ourselves that do not easily or even possibly have testable or falsifiable answers.
*If something cannot be tested or falsified, we are back to things that we have no reason to believe exist, such as god(s)*
Philosophers have exchanges on those - discussions, debates - but they are left unresolved.
*No, most have offered hypotheses that have been discredited. Arguments such as the ontological argument, the unmoved mover, the cosmological argument etc, none of which can be tested or falsified because they all proceed from the presupposition that they are explaining something that has been presupposed to exist i.e. god(s) Rather than trying to find ways to prove the existence of that thing.*
*This is the intrinsic difference between religion and science. Religion assumes an answer and then seeks evidence to back up the assumption. Science examines evidence and deduces from it the likely truth, from which it derives a testable hypothesis.*
Some trained philosophers think this way on those and others that way.
*Yes, but that does not mean they are all immediately to be presumed to be right*
The nature of man - merely an animal or is he a hybrid creature with a spiritual nature as well is one of those questions viewed from a philosophical perspective.
*First, produce testable and demonstrable evidence for a spirit, soul, Ka, Bah, pneuma, anima, atman, ethos, essence or quintessence, and then we can discuss this question. However, there is no more evidence for spirit or soul than there is for god(s)*
From a Biblical/theological perspective, there is a right answer on that. Christian believe we are made in the image of God - we are rational and so can discover and comprehend the regularities you speak of.
*Christians in this sense corrupt the meaning of "Believe" to be synonymous with faith, it is NOT.*
*I believe things that have been proven to me, I have faith in no thing, because faith requires the suspension of both belief and disbelief, relying instead on revelation*
But that is a faith based idea.
*Yes it is and literally ANYTHING can be taken on faith. The Christian claims belief in Jehovah based on faith. However, the Hindu also claims the existence of Vishnu to be a matter of faith. According to ...
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Okay I have scanned through your replies here to other posters and basically you are revamping the old "There can be no morality without god" argument, just substituting Morality for rationality.
This argument proceeds from a presupposition that because there is a god and all things come from ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 8, 2022:
@Madisonian Forgive me if I address your last post point by point.
But are we merely animals? Merely physical beings
*Yes*
In any factual subject there are, of course, right and wrong answers or ideas that seem to more credible than others.
*What is a non-factual subject?*
In philosophy - not so much. There are laws of logic, and we should seek to have our ideas conform to them.
*Yes and logic requires facts to of as premises, facts are not opinions, feelings or wild guesses*
But then there are the big questions that we have to answer for ourselves that do not easily or even possibly have testable or falsifiable answers.
*If something cannot be tested or falsified, we are back to things that we have no reason to believe exist, such as god(s)*
Philosophers have exchanges on those - discussions, debates - but they are left unresolved.
*No, most have offered hypotheses that have been discredited. Arguments such as the ontological argument, the unmoved mover, the cosmological argument etc, none of which can be tested or falsified because they all proceed from the presupposition that they are explaining something that has been presupposed to exist i.e. god(s) Rather than trying to find ways to prove the existence of that thing.*
*This is the intrinsic difference between religion and science. Religion assumes an answer and then seeks evidence to back up the assumption. Science examines evidence and deduces from it the likely truth, from which it derives a testable hypothesis.*
Some trained philosophers think this way on those and others that way.
*Yes, but that does not mean they are all immediately to be presumed to be right*
The nature of man - merely an animal or is he a hybrid creature with a spiritual nature as well is one of those questions viewed from a philosophical perspective.
*First, produce testable and demonstrable evidence for a spirit, soul, Ka, Bah, pneuma, anima, atman, ethos, essence or quintessence, and then we can discuss this question. However, there is no more evidence for spirit or soul than there is for god(s)*
From a Biblical/theological perspective, there is a right answer on that. Christian believe we are made in the image of God - we are rational and so can discover and comprehend the regularities you speak of.
*Christians in this sense corrupt the meaning of "Believe" to be synonymous with faith, it is NOT.*
*I believe things that have been proven to me, I have faith in no thing, because faith requires the suspension of both belief and disbelief, relying instead on revelation*
But that is a faith based idea.
*Yes it is and literally ANYTHING can be taken on faith. The Christian claims belief in Jehovah based on faith. However, the Hindu also claims the existence of Vishnu to be a matter of faith. According to ...
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Okay I have scanned through your replies here to other posters and basically you are revamping the old "There can be no morality without god" argument, just substituting Morality for rationality.
This argument proceeds from a presupposition that because there is a god and all things come from ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 8, 2022:
@Madisonian
“So are we just animals ?”
Simple answer Yes, we are just animals, mammals to be specific. We are living organism, we are not plants, nor are we fungi, therefore we are animals. We are not as strong as an elephant, we are not as fast as a cheetah, but we do have very good brains and are capable of problem-solving, that is how we evolved.
The whole point of science came from noticing patterns and testable behaviours in biology, astronomy, the seasons, the tides etc. Our evolved brains noticed this and developed methods to exploit it, such as farming, time measuring, meteorology etc. It was simply survival mechanisms. This also how the philosophers became the fathers of science.
Chaos has a tendency to develop in to order, a form of entropy
The fundamental flaw, of your last statement, is that the entire point of philosophy is the unending search for wisdom in order to know the truth with certainty. Philosophy is derived from the Greek philo- “loving” plus sophis “wise, learned” = the love of wisdom
There are most certainly right and wrong answers, hypotheses are postulated in order to be tested proven or falsified. Those which are elevated to the level of theory and eventually axioms must show repeatability, reliability, and consistency by testing, Those discovered to be false should be discarded as useless.
An opinion is not a fact, an answer that satisfies you may well be true, but it may equally be false, that is why we test ideas, this is why we have the sciences.
For example, if I contend fire consists of superheated gas reacting with oxygen and someone else contends (as was normal for centuries) that fire is created from the release of phlogiston, our opinions are indeed different. However, only one of us is right, and the other is at best mistaken at worst (if they insist on contending a debunked theory is still valid) delusional.
If your opinion is proven to be false, it should be discarded, not retained simply because it satisfies you or is comfortable. That is called living a lie, or in religious circles “Faith”. It is not a reliable path to truth.
Believing something proven to be false for the sake of Faith IS irrational, especially when it leads to the perpetuation of lies, prejudice, wars, and the withholding of actual knowledge and progress.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Okay I have scanned through your replies here to other posters and basically you are revamping the old "There can be no morality without god" argument, just substituting Morality for rationality.
This argument proceeds from a presupposition that because there is a god and all things come from ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 8, 2022:
@Madisonian
“So are we just animals ?”
Simple answer Yes, we are just animals, mammals to be specific. We are living organism, we are not plants, nor are we fungi, therefore we are animals. We are not as strong as an elephant, we are not as fast as a cheetah, but we do have very good brains and are capable of problem-solving, that is how we evolved.
The whole point of science came from noticing patterns and testable behaviours in biology, astronomy, the seasons, the tides etc. Our evolved brains noticed this and developed methods to exploit it, such as farming, time measuring, meteorology etc. It was simply survival mechanisms. This also how the philosophers became the fathers of science.
Chaos has a tendency to develop in to order, a form of entropy
The fundamental flaw, of your last statement, is that the entire point of philosophy is the unending search for wisdom in order to know the truth with certainty. Philosophy is derived from the Greek philo- “loving” plus sophis “wise, learned” = the love of wisdom
There are most certainly right and wrong answers, hypotheses are postulated in order to be tested proven or falsified. Those which are elevated to the level of theory and eventually axioms must show repeatability, reliability, and consistency by testing, Those discovered to be false should be discarded as useless.
An opinion is not a fact, an answer that satisfies you may well be true, but it may equally be false, that is why we test ideas, this is why we have the sciences.
For example, if I contend fire consists of superheated gas reacting with oxygen and someone else contends (as was normal for centuries) that fire is created from the release of phlogiston, our opinions are indeed different. However, only one of us is right, and the other is at best mistaken at worst (if they insist on contending a debunked theory is still valid) delusional.
If your opinion is proven to be false, it should be discarded, not retained simply because it satisfies you or is comfortable. That is called living a lie, or in religious circles “Faith”. It is not a reliable path to truth.
Believing something proven to be false for the sake of Faith IS irrational, especially when it leads to the perpetuation of lies, prejudice, wars, and the withholding of actual knowledge and progress.
41% of the ENGLISH LANGUAGE is FRENCH. How did this happen? - LetThemTalkTV
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Lorajay comments on Jan 8, 2022:
Might have something to do with the Norman conquest. I guess maybe English is Celtic.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 8, 2022:
There are four Celtic languages still spoken in the UK (less and Less unfortunately) Welsh, Scots Gallic, Irish Gallic and Cornish.
The Norman invasion was responsible for such things as having separate words for the animal and the meat (Lamb and Mutton, Cow and Beef, Pig and pork, chicken and poulette) and for common and posh names for the same thing , House and Maisonette, trousers and pantaloons, dining room and refectory, table wear and crockery, jar and carafe etc
Lorajay comments on Jan 8, 2022:
Might have something to do with the Norman conquest. I guess maybe English is Celtic.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 8, 2022:
There are four Celtic languages still spoken in the UK (less and Less unfortunately) Welsh, Scots Gallic, Irish Gallic and Cornish.
The Norman invasion was responsible for such things as having separate words for the animal and the meat (Lamb and Mutton, Cow and Beef, Pig and pork, chicken and poulette) and for common and posh names for the same thing , House and Maisonette, trousers and pantaloons, dining room and refectory, table wear and crockery, jar and carafe etc
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Okay I have scanned through your replies here to other posters and basically you are revamping the old "There can be no morality without god" argument, just substituting Morality for rationality.
This argument proceeds from a presupposition that because there is a god and all things come from ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian
Thinking is a physical process and is subject to empirical investigation, it is called epistemology, neurology or psychoanalytic theory depending upon which way it is approached.
The relationship between what goes on in our brain and the reality in which we exist is called perception, our sense provide our brains with data, that is processed and used to enable survival, the fulfilment of needs and to a lesser extent desires.
This is how science is possible, science is a natural extension of the need to understand the world as we perceive it and to manipulate our responses to our benefit
As for the point regarding the existence or non-existence of a god or gods, when something cannot be proven to exist, there is no need or requirement to prove that it does not exist. It can be accepted that based upon available information that the likelihood of the existence of such a being is at best negligible, and that should the said being actually exist it is actively hiding.
There are several ways to philosophically account for the correspondence between our thinking and reality, there are also a great number of scientific ways, not the least of which is as I have said is perception.
If this is not a problem for the Christian, then it really should be.
The reliability of the correspondence, is a product of our evolution and adaptation to survival within reality, both individually and as a species.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Okay I have scanned through your replies here to other posters and basically you are revamping the old "There can be no morality without god" argument, just substituting Morality for rationality.
This argument proceeds from a presupposition that because there is a god and all things come from ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian
Thinking is a physical process and is subject to empirical investigation, it is called epistemology, neurology or psychoanalytic theory depending upon which way it is approached.
The relationship between what goes on in our brain and the reality in which we exist is called perception, our sense provide our brains with data, that is processed and used to enable survival, the fulfilment of needs and to a lesser extent desires.
This is how science is possible, science is a natural extension of the need to understand the world as we perceive it and to manipulate our responses to our benefit
As for the point regarding the existence or non-existence of a god or gods, when something cannot be proven to exist, there is no need or requirement to prove that it does not exist. It can be accepted that based upon available information that the likelihood of the existence of such a being is at best negligible, and that should the said being actually exist it is actively hiding.
There are several ways to philosophically account for the correspondence between our thinking and reality, there are also a great number of scientific ways, not the least of which is as I have said is perception.
If this is not a problem for the Christian, then it really should be.
The reliability of the correspondence, is a product of our evolution and adaptation to survival within reality, both individually and as a species.
Hi,
I am new to the forum.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian You might want to read this before "daring to be a Daniel"
A church leader had his buttocks mauled by a lion after running towards a pride in a bid to prove the 'Lord's power '.
Alec Ndiwane, a Zion Christian Church prophet, was attacked on a safari while trying to show that God ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian Seriously, you took this literally? You did not see the metaphor I was implying? Oh boy you really are a Christian believer.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian You might want to read this before "daring to be a Daniel"
A church leader had his buttocks mauled by a lion after running towards a pride in a bid to prove the 'Lord's power '.
Alec Ndiwane, a Zion Christian Church prophet, was attacked on a safari while trying to show that God ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 7, 2022:
@Madisonian Seriously, you took this literally? You did not see the metaphor I was implying? Oh boy you really are a Christian believer.
USURIOUS.
Charlene comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Never go to the Shmatta, his vig is exorbitant..
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 7, 2022:
@Marionville
A Shmatta in Yiddish is a dealer in second hand cloth and clothes, as opposed to an Hyat (a tailor or dealer in new clothes) and Bag-ha-deem (new cloth or fabric). Shmatta is sometimes used as a derogatory term for a greedy pawn broker who pays little on goods but charges a lot to redeem them or sell them on.
Vig is the Yiddish word for a high rate of commission charged by a Shmatta.
Charlene comments on Jan 7, 2022:
Never go to the Shmatta, his vig is exorbitant..
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 7, 2022:
@Marionville
A Shmatta in Yiddish is a dealer in second hand cloth and clothes, as opposed to an Hyat (a tailor or dealer in new clothes) and Bag-ha-deem (new cloth or fabric). Shmatta is sometimes used as a derogatory term for a greedy pawn broker who pays little on goods but charges a lot to redeem them or sell them on.
Vig is the Yiddish word for a high rate of commission charged by a Shmatta.
USURIOUS.
HippieChick58 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
That was why the fictional Jesus was horsewhipping the money lenders before he chased them out of the temple.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 7, 2022:
The carpenter of Nazareth actually whipped and chased out the ***money Changers,*** not the usurers from the temple.
You see, tithes in the temple could only be paid in Shekels, so the pilgrims had to change their cash for Jewish tender before entering the Temple, the money changers always took a large percentage for themselves before selling on their coins for Roman denarius.
Actual money lending, however, was considered a perfectly respectable occupation among the Jews serving the same purposes as banks today.
*He hates our sacred nation, and he rails,
Even there where merchants most do congregate,
On me, my bargains and my well-won thrift, Which he calls “interest.” Cursèd be my tribe
If I forgive him!*
Shylock
The Merchant of Venice, Act 1, scene 3
Shakespeare
HippieChick58 comments on Jan 7, 2022:
That was why the fictional Jesus was horsewhipping the money lenders before he chased them out of the temple.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 7, 2022:
The carpenter of Nazareth actually whipped and chased out the ***money Changers,*** not the usurers from the temple.
You see, tithes in the temple could only be paid in Shekels, so the pilgrims had to change their cash for Jewish tender before entering the Temple, the money changers always took a large percentage for themselves before selling on their coins for Roman denarius.
Actual money lending, however, was considered a perfectly respectable occupation among the Jews serving the same purposes as banks today.
*He hates our sacred nation, and he rails,
Even there where merchants most do congregate,
On me, my bargains and my well-won thrift, Which he calls “interest.” Cursèd be my tribe
If I forgive him!*
Shylock
The Merchant of Venice, Act 1, scene 3
Shakespeare
Is anyone else in this group a caregiver?
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 6, 2022:
I have been my wife's primary care giver for 12 years and secondary care giver for my late father in law and my mother in law.
It is not easy, but you can learn to adapt to it.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 6, 2022:
@JennyRad All the things you mention are typical of severe advanced dementia, placing your poor father-in-law in care now IS NOT "right away", he is at a state where NOT placing him care with trained staff would be unfair and cruel. Your late mother I am sure would never have expected you to try and cope with such a serious medical condition.
My Father in law went in to care for his Alzheimer long before he got to the state you describe, and I took my invalid Mother in law to visit him every few days until his peaceful passing.
You must not feel you are letting down anyone by gaining for him appropriate care and you MUST NOT feel you are not caring for him by doing so, it is the caring thing to do.
Making yourself ill will benefit no one and asking for help IS NOT a sign of not caring nor of failure, it is the right thing to do.
Do the right thing and look after your self too.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 6, 2022:
I have been my wife's primary care giver for 12 years and secondary care giver for my late father in law and my mother in law.
It is not easy, but you can learn to adapt to it.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 6, 2022:
@JennyRad All the things you mention are typical of severe advanced dementia, placing your poor father-in-law in care now IS NOT "right away", he is at a state where NOT placing him care with trained staff would be unfair and cruel. Your late mother I am sure would never have expected you to try and cope with such a serious medical condition.
My Father in law went in to care for his Alzheimer long before he got to the state you describe, and I took my invalid Mother in law to visit him every few days until his peaceful passing.
You must not feel you are letting down anyone by gaining for him appropriate care and you MUST NOT feel you are not caring for him by doing so, it is the caring thing to do.
Making yourself ill will benefit no one and asking for help IS NOT a sign of not caring nor of failure, it is the right thing to do.
Do the right thing and look after your self too.
TACIT.
Charlene comments on Jan 6, 2022:
Know it, used it a few times and wasn't Tacitus a Roman historian?
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 6, 2022:
Yes and for such a prolific writer his name ironically means "the silent one"
Charlene comments on Jan 6, 2022:
Know it, used it a few times and wasn't Tacitus a Roman historian?
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 6, 2022:
Yes and for such a prolific writer his name ironically means "the silent one"
Pittsburgh Professor Brenner, Pittsburgh U.
p-nullifidian comments on Jan 5, 2022:
There’s much to agree with in the professor’s observations here. And consider this, it’s only the foreign policy part. Our disassociation from reality is just as profound on the domestic side of the house, perhaps more so.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 5, 2022:
It's just like the United Nations, The more members it has, the more arguments we can stir up. The more futile and impotent it becomes
We call it diplomacy,
In that cause, we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians.
(From the)... inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing: set the Germans against the French, the French against the Italians, the Italians against the Dutch. The Foreign Office is terribly pleased; it's just like old times.
Sir Humphrey Appleby, GCB, KBE, MVO, MA (Oxon)
p-nullifidian comments on Jan 5, 2022:
There’s much to agree with in the professor’s observations here. And consider this, it’s only the foreign policy part. Our disassociation from reality is just as profound on the domestic side of the house, perhaps more so.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 5, 2022:
It's just like the United Nations, The more members it has, the more arguments we can stir up. The more futile and impotent it becomes
We call it diplomacy,
In that cause, we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians.
(From the)... inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing: set the Germans against the French, the French against the Italians, the Italians against the Dutch. The Foreign Office is terribly pleased; it's just like old times.
Sir Humphrey Appleby, GCB, KBE, MVO, MA (Oxon)
Interesting little quiz I found on Dictionary.com
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FrayedBear comments on Jan 5, 2022:
I did far better on the British 🇬🇧 spelling test!
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 5, 2022:
I tried that, but the people who set the quiz obviously have no idea that Practise and Practice are both correct spellings with different meanings in English. Practise, meaning to train oneself and Practice to carry out a vocation
She practised her skills in magic in order to practice witchcraft
FrayedBear comments on Jan 5, 2022:
I did far better on the British 🇬🇧 spelling test!
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 5, 2022:
I tried that, but the people who set the quiz obviously have no idea that Practise and Practice are both correct spellings with different meanings in English. Practise, meaning to train oneself and Practice to carry out a vocation
She practised her skills in magic in order to practice witchcraft
I am hosting a gay Christian scientist in my b&b.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 5, 2022:
Was your friend a scientist who happened to be a Christian or a follower of Mary Baker Eddy ie. a "Christian Scientist"
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 5, 2022:
@Lorajay I was just being flippant about their holy book and church doctrine, I'm glad your friend has the good sense to not simply rely on doctrine at this awful time :)
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 5, 2022:
Was your friend a scientist who happened to be a Christian or a follower of Mary Baker Eddy ie. a "Christian Scientist"
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 5, 2022:
@Lorajay I was just being flippant about their holy book and church doctrine, I'm glad your friend has the good sense to not simply rely on doctrine at this awful time :)
I am hosting a gay Christian scientist in my b&b.
Lorajay comments on Jan 5, 2022:
My only question during the conversation was about Judaism. Evangelical Christians seem very supportive of Israel so I asked her whether Jews were going to all go to hell since they did not believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God. She informed me that most Jews now did believe that Christ was ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 5, 2022:
I love the Christian edict that since Hitler was a baptised Catholic he is entitled to go to heaven despite all he did as he is saved by grace, but the Jews he burned will all still burn forever in Hell since they chose not to accept his precious "gift"
And yet Jehovah is in their eyes still a just and merciful god
Lorajay comments on Jan 5, 2022:
My only question during the conversation was about Judaism. Evangelical Christians seem very supportive of Israel so I asked her whether Jews were going to all go to hell since they did not believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God. She informed me that most Jews now did believe that Christ was ...
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 5, 2022:
I love the Christian edict that since Hitler was a baptised Catholic he is entitled to go to heaven despite all he did as he is saved by grace, but the Jews he burned will all still burn forever in Hell since they chose not to accept his precious "gift"
And yet Jehovah is in their eyes still a just and merciful god
I am hosting a gay Christian scientist in my b&b.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 5, 2022:
Was your friend a scientist who happened to be a Christian or a follower of Mary Baker Eddy ie. a "Christian Scientist"
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 5, 2022:
@Lorajay Why is he looking for assisted living for his sister then, are they not just supposed to be able to pray illness and injury away?
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 5, 2022:
Was your friend a scientist who happened to be a Christian or a follower of Mary Baker Eddy ie. a "Christian Scientist"
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 5, 2022:
@Lorajay Why is he looking for assisted living for his sister then, are they not just supposed to be able to pray illness and injury away?
The best Anime theme for a few years 『Dark seeks light』by Yui Ninomiya from
Sekai Saikou no ...
Marionville comments on Jan 3, 2022:
Not really my bag..sorry! Although I appreciate that I may be in the minority on this….
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 3, 2022:
Japanese Hard Rock is a love it or hate it preference, even in Japan. I'll post something lighter in a day or too.
Marionville comments on Jan 3, 2022:
Not really my bag..sorry! Although I appreciate that I may be in the minority on this….
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 3, 2022:
Japanese Hard Rock is a love it or hate it preference, even in Japan. I'll post something lighter in a day or too.
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I mean , let’s be honest here 🙌🦇😂
Lorajay comments on Jan 2, 2022:
I have $40.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 3, 2022:
@Sticks48 as my old Dad would say when asked for a loan...
"$10, $5, what on earth do you want $3 for?"
Lorajay comments on Jan 2, 2022:
I have $40.
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 3, 2022:
@Sticks48 as my old Dad would say when asked for a loan...
"$10, $5, what on earth do you want $3 for?"
“I guess the only time most people think about injustice is when it happens to them.
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 2, 2022:
“Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead.”
― Charles Bukowski
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 2, 2022:
@MizJ Mine too
LenHazell53 comments on Jan 2, 2022:
“Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead.”
― Charles Bukowski
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 2, 2022:
@MizJ Mine too
New to me, but a nice way to start the New Year.
Marionville comments on Jan 1, 2022:
Happy New Year…nice one as you say! Jocular comes from the same Latin source - jocundus (pleasant, agreeable).
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 1, 2022:
Hence, Joke
Marionville comments on Jan 1, 2022:
Happy New Year…nice one as you say! Jocular comes from the same Latin source - jocundus (pleasant, agreeable).
LenHazell53 replies on Jan 1, 2022:
Hence, Joke
The hauntingly beautiful voice you hear on the Titanic soundtrack…the soundtrack that James Horner...
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 31, 2021:
Horner is one of my favourite movie music composers.
Like Cameron himself, Horner was discovered and given his big break by Roger Corman
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 31, 2021:
@Marionville
James Horners incidental music for minor movies by Roger and Julie Cormansuch as Lady in Red and The watcher, lead to his big break being allowed to score "Battle Beyond the Stars" the soundtrack album of which outsold the original film.
He never looked back, being hired within months to score Michael Caine's first Horror film The Hand and Whitely Strieber's Wolfen both of which were smash hits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mSgqMOKJho
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 31, 2021:
Horner is one of my favourite movie music composers.
Like Cameron himself, Horner was discovered and given his big break by Roger Corman
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 31, 2021:
@Marionville
James Horners incidental music for minor movies by Roger and Julie Cormansuch as Lady in Red and The watcher, lead to his big break being allowed to score "Battle Beyond the Stars" the soundtrack album of which outsold the original film.
He never looked back, being hired within months to score Michael Caine's first Horror film The Hand and Whitely Strieber's Wolfen both of which were smash hits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mSgqMOKJho
Destiny
rainmanjr comments on Dec 27, 2021:
There is no free will (our decisions are made subconsciously, from limited data and past reference, before we are consciously aware of making that decision). Fate is a fallacy so there can be no such thing as destiny. Depends isn't an honest choice. Maybe add one?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 31, 2021:
@rainmanjr Instinct is something else again, but it is perfectly possible and often even desirable to go against one's instinct, doing so is the root of civilisation and science, both of which I view as prime examples of free will.
rainmanjr comments on Dec 27, 2021:
There is no free will (our decisions are made subconsciously, from limited data and past reference, before we are consciously aware of making that decision). Fate is a fallacy so there can be no such thing as destiny. Depends isn't an honest choice. Maybe add one?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 31, 2021:
@rainmanjr Instinct is something else again, but it is perfectly possible and often even desirable to go against one's instinct, doing so is the root of civilisation and science, both of which I view as prime examples of free will.
Destiny
rainmanjr comments on Dec 27, 2021:
There is no free will (our decisions are made subconsciously, from limited data and past reference, before we are consciously aware of making that decision). Fate is a fallacy so there can be no such thing as destiny. Depends isn't an honest choice. Maybe add one?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 30, 2021:
@rainmanjr I am not disputing that, what I am saying is that the unconscious mind works within parameters that are conditioned and learned according to the nature, nurture, knowledge and lived experience of the individual, in accordances with the wants, needs and desires of the individual.
That still amounts to individual freewill.
rainmanjr comments on Dec 27, 2021:
There is no free will (our decisions are made subconsciously, from limited data and past reference, before we are consciously aware of making that decision). Fate is a fallacy so there can be no such thing as destiny. Depends isn't an honest choice. Maybe add one?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 30, 2021:
@rainmanjr I am not disputing that, what I am saying is that the unconscious mind works within parameters that are conditioned and learned according to the nature, nurture, knowledge and lived experience of the individual, in accordances with the wants, needs and desires of the individual.
That still amounts to individual freewill.
Destiny
rainmanjr comments on Dec 27, 2021:
There is no free will (our decisions are made subconsciously, from limited data and past reference, before we are consciously aware of making that decision). Fate is a fallacy so there can be no such thing as destiny. Depends isn't an honest choice. Maybe add one?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 29, 2021:
They are however still actually decisions made by a mind formed from individual experience, and it is actually the unconscious mind that makes such decisions not the subconscious
rainmanjr comments on Dec 27, 2021:
There is no free will (our decisions are made subconsciously, from limited data and past reference, before we are consciously aware of making that decision). Fate is a fallacy so there can be no such thing as destiny. Depends isn't an honest choice. Maybe add one?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 29, 2021:
They are however still actually decisions made by a mind formed from individual experience, and it is actually the unconscious mind that makes such decisions not the subconscious
Big brother watching Canadians. The American disease continues to spread!
Mooolah comments on Dec 27, 2021:
Once again the source is RT or Russia Today. The propaganda arm of Putin the Poisoner holds no credibility with me. Nothing, zero, nada, HET from this source carries any credibility. This is how disinformation creeps into our mind set.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
@Mooolah Thank you, what is notable, in this case, however, is who is NOT reporting it.
I can find UK, Russian, Canadian, Australian and many non-English language reference to the story, but apart from RT America, almost no US sources.
This begs the question of why? Does it not?
Mooolah comments on Dec 27, 2021:
Once again the source is RT or Russia Today. The propaganda arm of Putin the Poisoner holds no credibility with me. Nothing, zero, nada, HET from this source carries any credibility. This is how disinformation creeps into our mind set.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
@Mooolah Thank you, what is notable, in this case, however, is who is NOT reporting it.
I can find UK, Russian, Canadian, Australian and many non-English language reference to the story, but apart from RT America, almost no US sources.
This begs the question of why? Does it not?
The Case Against Santa Denialism
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Lorajay comments on Dec 27, 2021:
I do believe the speaker is boring
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
@Lorajay You did not get that it is a parody, using all the tired old (and well debunked) arguments for the necessity of god, only using find and replace to switch god with Santa? And then, as is the essence of good comedy, playing it completely straight?
Lorajay comments on Dec 27, 2021:
I do believe the speaker is boring
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
@Lorajay You did not get that it is a parody, using all the tired old (and well debunked) arguments for the necessity of god, only using find and replace to switch god with Santa? And then, as is the essence of good comedy, playing it completely straight?
'Go in peace': US church founded in 1800 holds last service
A central Pennsylvania church with a ...
rainmanjr comments on Dec 27, 2021:
I note an interesting assumption that the decline in attendance means rejection of belief. I'm unsure it means that at all. While the nons have become significant the percentage of Atheists are still at a low 8%, or so. That suggests they still hold levels of belief but are rejecting the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
@Delbertj The same way, a victim stays with an abusive spouse, convincing themselves that the abuse is a sign of love.
rainmanjr comments on Dec 27, 2021:
I note an interesting assumption that the decline in attendance means rejection of belief. I'm unsure it means that at all. While the nons have become significant the percentage of Atheists are still at a low 8%, or so. That suggests they still hold levels of belief but are rejecting the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
@Delbertj The same way, a victim stays with an abusive spouse, convincing themselves that the abuse is a sign of love.
The Case Against Santa Denialism
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Lorajay comments on Dec 27, 2021:
I do believe the speaker is boring
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
Sorry you found it boring, I've been listening to Sisyphus 55 for a few years now, he is one of the most intelligent philosophical satirists on YouTube, I will not post from him again since his work is not appreciated here.
Lorajay comments on Dec 27, 2021:
I do believe the speaker is boring
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
Sorry you found it boring, I've been listening to Sisyphus 55 for a few years now, he is one of the most intelligent philosophical satirists on YouTube, I will not post from him again since his work is not appreciated here.
Big brother watching Canadians. The American disease continues to spread!
Mooolah comments on Dec 27, 2021:
Once again the source is RT or Russia Today. The propaganda arm of Putin the Poisoner holds no credibility with me. Nothing, zero, nada, HET from this source carries any credibility. This is how disinformation creeps into our mind set.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
Are the Toronto sun and the National Post who among many others reported exactly the same story "Putin propaganda" Too?
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadas-public-health-agency-admits-it-tracked-33-million-mobile-devices-during-lockdown
https://torontosun.com/news/national/feds-admit-tracking-33-million-mobile-phone-devices-during-lockdowns
Mooolah comments on Dec 27, 2021:
Once again the source is RT or Russia Today. The propaganda arm of Putin the Poisoner holds no credibility with me. Nothing, zero, nada, HET from this source carries any credibility. This is how disinformation creeps into our mind set.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
Are the Toronto sun and the National Post who among many others reported exactly the same story "Putin propaganda" Too?
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadas-public-health-agency-admits-it-tracked-33-million-mobile-devices-during-lockdown
https://torontosun.com/news/national/feds-admit-tracking-33-million-mobile-phone-devices-during-lockdowns
Clergy fleeing their ministries due to fights with parishioners over politics: report
AnneWimsey comments on Dec 26, 2021:
Just think if they had refused to use their pulpits for political claptrap.....
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
Wull sure they wood if'n they was fag commie demonocrats.
Doonald Trruump fer pope Y'all!!!!
AnneWimsey comments on Dec 26, 2021:
Just think if they had refused to use their pulpits for political claptrap.....
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
Wull sure they wood if'n they was fag commie demonocrats.
Doonald Trruump fer pope Y'all!!!!
'Go in peace': US church founded in 1800 holds last service
A central Pennsylvania church with a ...
rainmanjr comments on Dec 27, 2021:
I note an interesting assumption that the decline in attendance means rejection of belief. I'm unsure it means that at all. While the nons have become significant the percentage of Atheists are still at a low 8%, or so. That suggests they still hold levels of belief but are rejecting the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
In times past, a plague meant the religitards, falling to their knees and beseeching forgiveness for their angry deity.
Today it tends to show up that both god and religion are the same big pile of dog shit and even the people who do believe in him/her/it thinks god is a tyrannical prick who they don't want to worship any more anyway
rainmanjr comments on Dec 27, 2021:
I note an interesting assumption that the decline in attendance means rejection of belief. I'm unsure it means that at all. While the nons have become significant the percentage of Atheists are still at a low 8%, or so. That suggests they still hold levels of belief but are rejecting the ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 27, 2021:
In times past, a plague meant the religitards, falling to their knees and beseeching forgiveness for their angry deity.
Today it tends to show up that both god and religion are the same big pile of dog shit and even the people who do believe in him/her/it thinks god is a tyrannical prick who they don't want to worship any more anyway
Happy Newtonmas
Fernapple comments on Dec 25, 2021:
Not until the fourth of January.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 25, 2021:
Nope, Newton was born during the global transition from the Julian to Gregorian Calendar.
Different countries converted to the new Calendar at different point over a 150-year period
Newton's Birthday was Officially the 25th of December 1642 by the Julian Calendar in use at the time and for almost 70 years thereafter until 1752.
Therefore, during Newton's lifetime (1642-1727), the calendar had NOT switched in England to the Gregorian, making his date of birth only RETROSPECTIVELY 4th January 1643 according to the Gregorian Calendar.
Newton himself therefore always used and celebrated Xmas day as his birthday, and if asked his DOB would always say the 25th of December.
Fernapple comments on Dec 25, 2021:
Not until the fourth of January.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 25, 2021:
Nope, Newton was born during the global transition from the Julian to Gregorian Calendar.
Different countries converted to the new Calendar at different point over a 150-year period
Newton's Birthday was Officially the 25th of December 1642 by the Julian Calendar in use at the time and for almost 70 years thereafter until 1752.
Therefore, during Newton's lifetime (1642-1727), the calendar had NOT switched in England to the Gregorian, making his date of birth only RETROSPECTIVELY 4th January 1643 according to the Gregorian Calendar.
Newton himself therefore always used and celebrated Xmas day as his birthday, and if asked his DOB would always say the 25th of December.
In case you wondered what they believed
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 24, 2021:
Those are just the tip of the iceberg
Spencer W Kimble wrote that the so called "Bigfoot" of the USA was Caine the son of Adam forever cursed to rule the world
Missionaries are not allowed to go swimming because Satan has power over water
God lives on a planet orbiting the star Kolob ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 24, 2021:
OH! Yes, I forgot, there are Quakers living on the Moon according to 3 separates prophets and that is why the moon landings were a hoax.
Also the sun is a planet and people live there too.
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 24, 2021:
Those are just the tip of the iceberg
Spencer W Kimble wrote that the so called "Bigfoot" of the USA was Caine the son of Adam forever cursed to rule the world
Missionaries are not allowed to go swimming because Satan has power over water
God lives on a planet orbiting the star Kolob ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 24, 2021:
OH! Yes, I forgot, there are Quakers living on the Moon according to 3 separates prophets and that is why the moon landings were a hoax.
Also the sun is a planet and people live there too.
Com'on guys bring it to the libs!!
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Gwendolyn2018 comments on Dec 22, 2021:
Love The Onion. It is amusing when people take it seriously--and they sometimes do.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 22, 2021:
Many a true word is spoken in Jest
Satire has always been a great tool for hiding truth in plain sight.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Dec 22, 2021:
Love The Onion. It is amusing when people take it seriously--and they sometimes do.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 22, 2021:
Many a true word is spoken in Jest
Satire has always been a great tool for hiding truth in plain sight.
Billionaire Utah native Jeff T. Green quits LDS Church, gives $600K to Equality Utah
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 21, 2021:
He has been what is called by Mormons an "Inactive" for about a decade, meaning he does not attend church or more importantly no longer pays tithing. However unlike other religions if you wish to leave Mormonism, you have to send a request to SLC (Salt Lake City) and have your name stricken from the...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 22, 2021:
@OldMetalHead As of last year, the church no longer uses the term apostate, favouring instead the term "Withdrawn from membership" for both apostasy and excommunication.
Another failed, Dallin H. Oaks (or elder Hoax as some prefer to call him) attempt to make the church more of an orthodox Christian denomination.
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 21, 2021:
He has been what is called by Mormons an "Inactive" for about a decade, meaning he does not attend church or more importantly no longer pays tithing. However unlike other religions if you wish to leave Mormonism, you have to send a request to SLC (Salt Lake City) and have your name stricken from the...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 22, 2021:
@OldMetalHead As of last year, the church no longer uses the term apostate, favouring instead the term "Withdrawn from membership" for both apostasy and excommunication.
Another failed, Dallin H. Oaks (or elder Hoax as some prefer to call him) attempt to make the church more of an orthodox Christian denomination.
Say it isn't so!
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 21, 2021:
Or perhaps worse still 2020 II
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 22, 2021:
@FrayedBear When I hear senior politicians and civil servants on reputable news show seriously putting forward the idea that appropriate safety measures are not "economically viable" as safe guarding the economy outweighs the needs to save lives and limit exposure of the public to covid, I have to accept that that is indeed an evil mad world.
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 21, 2021:
Or perhaps worse still 2020 II
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 22, 2021:
@FrayedBear When I hear senior politicians and civil servants on reputable news show seriously putting forward the idea that appropriate safety measures are not "economically viable" as safe guarding the economy outweighs the needs to save lives and limit exposure of the public to covid, I have to accept that that is indeed an evil mad world.
Pope Francis condemns domestic abuse as "almost satanic"
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AnneWimsey comments on Dec 20, 2021:
A drunken asshole with swinging fists, while Highly Unpleasant, and possibly deadly,, is hardly "satanic".......he doesn't get out much, does he?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 21, 2021:
@AnneWimsey speaking from experience, I empathise completely
AnneWimsey comments on Dec 20, 2021:
A drunken asshole with swinging fists, while Highly Unpleasant, and possibly deadly,, is hardly "satanic".......he doesn't get out much, does he?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 21, 2021:
@AnneWimsey speaking from experience, I empathise completely
Billionaire Utahn resigns from the LDS Church - [fox13now.com]
Lilac-JadeCanada comments on Dec 20, 2021:
Sounds good....but FOX news?????
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 20, 2021:
It's in the Salt Lake Tribune too, including a full statement of condemnation of the church
"In an explosive 900-word letter sent Monday to LDS President Russell Nelson, Jeff T. Green lambasted the Mormon church, saying that while he believed most members were “good people trying to do right,” he also believed “the church is actively and currently doing harm in the world.”
“The church leadership is not honest about its history, its finances, and its advocacy,” Green, a former Mormon missionary and Brigham Young University graduate, added. “I believe the Mormon church has hindered global progress in women’s rights, civil rights and racial equality, and LGBTQ+ rights.” "
Lilac-JadeCanada comments on Dec 20, 2021:
Sounds good....but FOX news?????
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 20, 2021:
It's in the Salt Lake Tribune too, including a full statement of condemnation of the church
"In an explosive 900-word letter sent Monday to LDS President Russell Nelson, Jeff T. Green lambasted the Mormon church, saying that while he believed most members were “good people trying to do right,” he also believed “the church is actively and currently doing harm in the world.”
“The church leadership is not honest about its history, its finances, and its advocacy,” Green, a former Mormon missionary and Brigham Young University graduate, added. “I believe the Mormon church has hindered global progress in women’s rights, civil rights and racial equality, and LGBTQ+ rights.” "
INSOUCIANCE.
Charlene comments on Dec 20, 2021:
Haven't been insoucianent since my early 20's...lol..
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 20, 2021:
I wish I could be so, but alas I am both worrisome and grumpy, with a temper that tends, under the right circumstance, toward the volcanic.
Charlene comments on Dec 20, 2021:
Haven't been insoucianent since my early 20's...lol..
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 20, 2021:
I wish I could be so, but alas I am both worrisome and grumpy, with a temper that tends, under the right circumstance, toward the volcanic.
Pope Francis condemns domestic abuse as "almost satanic"
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AnneWimsey comments on Dec 20, 2021:
A drunken asshole with swinging fists, while Highly Unpleasant, and possibly deadly,, is hardly "satanic".......he doesn't get out much, does he?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 20, 2021:
Completely correct, also domestic abuse is real and a genuine problem
AnneWimsey comments on Dec 20, 2021:
A drunken asshole with swinging fists, while Highly Unpleasant, and possibly deadly,, is hardly "satanic".......he doesn't get out much, does he?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 20, 2021:
Completely correct, also domestic abuse is real and a genuine problem
Just when you think it couldnt be worse, it turns out that it is?
Diaco comments on Dec 18, 2021:
Another manipulated news from RT!!! Pls. read this :
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/17/politics/fentanyl-overdose-deaths-what-matters/index.html
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 18, 2021:
Thank you for the alternate report, all news outlets skew stories in favour of their own agenda, but this time the basic facts seem to be in agreement, as with PCP and opioids the traffic in to the US of the raw ingredients for Fentanyl and the propagation of counterfeit prescription drugs among the more vulnerable and gullible of the population is continuing to proving fatal.
Diaco comments on Dec 18, 2021:
Another manipulated news from RT!!! Pls. read this :
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/17/politics/fentanyl-overdose-deaths-what-matters/index.html
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 18, 2021:
Thank you for the alternate report, all news outlets skew stories in favour of their own agenda, but this time the basic facts seem to be in agreement, as with PCP and opioids the traffic in to the US of the raw ingredients for Fentanyl and the propagation of counterfeit prescription drugs among the more vulnerable and gullible of the population is continuing to proving fatal.
“There is no exercise better for the heart than reaching down and lifting people ...
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 17, 2021:
Which John Holmes said this? The context might greatly alter the meaning.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 17, 2021:
@Marionville I checked it out, it was John A. Holmes the mid 20th century English poet
Not the Rugby Player, not the child actor, not the politician and certainly not the infamously well-endowed (and short-lived) Porn star John C. Holmes subject of the four biographical films including the Oscar winning Boogie Nights
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 17, 2021:
Which John Holmes said this? The context might greatly alter the meaning.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 17, 2021:
@Marionville I checked it out, it was John A. Holmes the mid 20th century English poet
Not the Rugby Player, not the child actor, not the politician and certainly not the infamously well-endowed (and short-lived) Porn star John C. Holmes subject of the four biographical films including the Oscar winning Boogie Nights
The Lively & Liveable Neighbourhoods that are Illegal in Most of North America - YouTube
bobwjr comments on Dec 15, 2021:
Disgusting
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 17, 2021:
@AnonySchmoose It would be a good start if a way could be found to end the demonisation of compassion, human rights and care as tools of the dangerous "left" "Socialists" and "political extremists"
bobwjr comments on Dec 15, 2021:
Disgusting
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 17, 2021:
@AnonySchmoose It would be a good start if a way could be found to end the demonisation of compassion, human rights and care as tools of the dangerous "left" "Socialists" and "political extremists"
'George Floyd' pieta stolen after artist receives death threats
"Blasphemous" Painting of George ...
Charlene comments on Dec 16, 2021:
Wait it was a dis-service to Catlics everywhere? By depicting Jabus as a Murdered black man? Yet the Rampent Pedophilia pales in comparison. Besides wasn't Jabus a Murdered Darkskined man from the middle east?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 17, 2021:
@JacarC Oh well, that makes it alright then
Charlene comments on Dec 16, 2021:
Wait it was a dis-service to Catlics everywhere? By depicting Jabus as a Murdered black man? Yet the Rampent Pedophilia pales in comparison. Besides wasn't Jabus a Murdered Darkskined man from the middle east?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 17, 2021:
@JacarC Oh well, that makes it alright then
Poland's border wall will cut Europe's oldest forest in half
mischl comments on Dec 16, 2021:
History shows us that border walls are actually kinda stupid.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 16, 2021:
They please the voting moron bigots, because it makes the good for nothing pocket fillers in government actually appear to be doing something.
mischl comments on Dec 16, 2021:
History shows us that border walls are actually kinda stupid.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 16, 2021:
They please the voting moron bigots, because it makes the good for nothing pocket fillers in government actually appear to be doing something.
The Lively & Liveable Neighbourhoods that are Illegal in Most of North America - YouTube
bobwjr comments on Dec 15, 2021:
Disgusting
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 16, 2021:
@AnonySchmoose One might think so, even hope so, but unfortunately the idea that ultra capitalism is "our way of life" and so is intrinsically tied up with "freedom" has been so successfully propagated over an extended length of time that people are willing to vote against their best interests, blame themselves for their own oppression and even die to preserve the status quo that is sacrificing them to the furtherance of the all might $
bobwjr comments on Dec 15, 2021:
Disgusting
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 16, 2021:
@AnonySchmoose One might think so, even hope so, but unfortunately the idea that ultra capitalism is "our way of life" and so is intrinsically tied up with "freedom" has been so successfully propagated over an extended length of time that people are willing to vote against their best interests, blame themselves for their own oppression and even die to preserve the status quo that is sacrificing them to the furtherance of the all might $
The Lively & Liveable Neighbourhoods that are Illegal in Most of North America - YouTube
KateOahu comments on Dec 15, 2021:
Single-family home ownership does not tend to be the main goal in Europe. The American Dream of home ownership was created by capitalists. I would much prefer to live in a neighborhood as in the video, but in a warm location like where I live. I tried very hard to find a place within walking ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 16, 2021:
Having a safe place to live should be a right, but the capitalist societies of the world have peddled relentlessly the myth that owning your own home is an asset, when five minutes thought proves to anyone with a functioning brain cell that it is a liability.
But of course talking about rights, human, civil or legal, in the eyes of the capitalist nations makes me at best a socialist at worst a "pinko fag commie bastard"
KateOahu comments on Dec 15, 2021:
Single-family home ownership does not tend to be the main goal in Europe. The American Dream of home ownership was created by capitalists. I would much prefer to live in a neighborhood as in the video, but in a warm location like where I live. I tried very hard to find a place within walking ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 16, 2021:
Having a safe place to live should be a right, but the capitalist societies of the world have peddled relentlessly the myth that owning your own home is an asset, when five minutes thought proves to anyone with a functioning brain cell that it is a liability.
But of course talking about rights, human, civil or legal, in the eyes of the capitalist nations makes me at best a socialist at worst a "pinko fag commie bastard"
The Lively & Liveable Neighbourhoods that are Illegal in Most of North America - YouTube
Fernapple comments on Dec 16, 2021:
Interesting video. The longer I spend on this site, the more I wonder how anyone even survives in North America.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 16, 2021:
It is colloquially called the "Mushroom" method of political philosophy
You keep them in the dark and feed them a regular diet of bullshit.
Fernapple comments on Dec 16, 2021:
Interesting video. The longer I spend on this site, the more I wonder how anyone even survives in North America.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 16, 2021:
It is colloquially called the "Mushroom" method of political philosophy
You keep them in the dark and feed them a regular diet of bullshit.
Pastor who approved of marital rape removed from Seventh-day Adventist Church
Burnett Robinson will...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Dec 15, 2021:
This was the status quo for centuries, even millennia--well into the 20th. century. No surprise that the "policy" still exists.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 16, 2021:
For example
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Dec 15, 2021:
This was the status quo for centuries, even millennia--well into the 20th. century. No surprise that the "policy" still exists.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 16, 2021:
For example
Pastor who approved of marital rape removed from Seventh-day Adventist Church
Burnett Robinson will...
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Dec 15, 2021:
This was the status quo for centuries, even millennia--well into the 20th. century. No surprise that the "policy" still exists.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 16, 2021:
That is not to say that it still should and NEVER should have.
There is no excuse for it today, except of course the Wholly Babble, and that book of filth should have carried a mental health warning for centuries
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Dec 15, 2021:
This was the status quo for centuries, even millennia--well into the 20th. century. No surprise that the "policy" still exists.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 16, 2021:
That is not to say that it still should and NEVER should have.
There is no excuse for it today, except of course the Wholly Babble, and that book of filth should have carried a mental health warning for centuries
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ...
anglophone comments on Dec 15, 2021:
Hmm. That might explain why I have such a monumental amount of self-hatred.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 15, 2021:
Been there, done that
Self Hatred was summed up for me in this snippet from Red Dwarf Series V Episode 3, "Terrorform"
By Rob Grant and Doug Naylor
UNSPEAKABLE ONE: It is you who created me, nurtured me, help me grow
strong. I am the part of you that hates yourself. I am your self-
loathing.
RIMMER: My self-loathing?
UNSPEAKABLE ONE: Is it not true that you despise yourself? That you
detest your own incompetence and stupidity? That you hold yourself in
contempt for your countless failures and disappointments? Is it not
true that you feel nothing but the deepest, blackest rancour for that
walking vomit stain the world calls Arnold Rimmer? Is it not true?
RIMMER: (Weakly) Yes.
anglophone comments on Dec 15, 2021:
Hmm. That might explain why I have such a monumental amount of self-hatred.
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 15, 2021:
Been there, done that
Self Hatred was summed up for me in this snippet from Red Dwarf Series V Episode 3, "Terrorform"
By Rob Grant and Doug Naylor
UNSPEAKABLE ONE: It is you who created me, nurtured me, help me grow
strong. I am the part of you that hates yourself. I am your self-
loathing.
RIMMER: My self-loathing?
UNSPEAKABLE ONE: Is it not true that you despise yourself? That you
detest your own incompetence and stupidity? That you hold yourself in
contempt for your countless failures and disappointments? Is it not
true that you feel nothing but the deepest, blackest rancour for that
walking vomit stain the world calls Arnold Rimmer? Is it not true?
RIMMER: (Weakly) Yes.
The Steel Man Technique: How To Argue Better And Be More Persuasive
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 13, 2021:
It somewhat undermines the point being made when the head line reads
How To Argue Better
rather than
How to make a better argument
Perhaps?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 13, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay love Jeff Dunham :)
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 13, 2021:
It somewhat undermines the point being made when the head line reads
How To Argue Better
rather than
How to make a better argument
Perhaps?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 13, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay love Jeff Dunham :)
The Steel Man Technique: How To Argue Better And Be More Persuasive
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 13, 2021:
It somewhat undermines the point being made when the head line reads
How To Argue Better
rather than
How to make a better argument
Perhaps?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 13, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 13, 2021:
It somewhat undermines the point being made when the head line reads
How To Argue Better
rather than
How to make a better argument
Perhaps?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 13, 2021:
@TheMiddleWay
BOSS-EYED.
Charlene comments on Dec 13, 2021:
We say cross eyed over here. Is it still used?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 13, 2021:
@Marionville Boss eyed is used more in Ireland, Graham Linehan uses it a lot in his writing
Charlene comments on Dec 13, 2021:
We say cross eyed over here. Is it still used?
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 13, 2021:
@Marionville Boss eyed is used more in Ireland, Graham Linehan uses it a lot in his writing
SJWs start victim blaming, it bound happen eventually.
Toonman comments on Dec 11, 2021:
There's no link to your source.
I have no reason to believe anything you say unless you can corroborate it.
And usually it's SJW's who are call-out victim-blaming, so either this is an exception to the rule or you don't know what a SJW is.
I have a feeling SJW is simply a pejorative you ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 13, 2021:
@Mb_Man "Idiots come in all shapes" How very true and how very self-aware.
Toonman comments on Dec 11, 2021:
There's no link to your source.
I have no reason to believe anything you say unless you can corroborate it.
And usually it's SJW's who are call-out victim-blaming, so either this is an exception to the rule or you don't know what a SJW is.
I have a feeling SJW is simply a pejorative you ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 13, 2021:
@Mb_Man "Idiots come in all shapes" How very true and how very self-aware.
Bezoar
noun
a calculus or concretion found in the stomach or intestines of certain animals, ...
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 12, 2021:
A Harry Potter staple
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 12, 2021:
@HippieChick58 read them to my son and grandchildren when they were growing up, I think they preferred the films though.
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 12, 2021:
A Harry Potter staple
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 12, 2021:
@HippieChick58 read them to my son and grandchildren when they were growing up, I think they preferred the films though.
Bezoar
noun
a calculus or concretion found in the stomach or intestines of certain animals, ...
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 12, 2021:
A Harry Potter staple
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 12, 2021:
@HippieChick58 In book one Snape taunts Harry over what he would use a Bezoar for in order to show up his ignorance of the wizarding world, in book six Harry uses one to save the life of Ron after he is given poison wine intended for Dumbledore
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 12, 2021:
A Harry Potter staple
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 12, 2021:
@HippieChick58 In book one Snape taunts Harry over what he would use a Bezoar for in order to show up his ignorance of the wizarding world, in book six Harry uses one to save the life of Ron after he is given poison wine intended for Dumbledore
SJWs start victim blaming, it bound happen eventually.
Toonman comments on Dec 11, 2021:
There's no link to your source.
I have no reason to believe anything you say unless you can corroborate it.
And usually it's SJW's who are call-out victim-blaming, so either this is an exception to the rule or you don't know what a SJW is.
I have a feeling SJW is simply a pejorative you ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 12, 2021:
@Toonman Mb_Man did, use his link if you like :)
By the way I am a card-carrying socialist, have been for forty years so have no knowledge of the "Lazy Right-Wing Dipshit checklist." something you seem very familiar with?
Toonman comments on Dec 11, 2021:
There's no link to your source.
I have no reason to believe anything you say unless you can corroborate it.
And usually it's SJW's who are call-out victim-blaming, so either this is an exception to the rule or you don't know what a SJW is.
I have a feeling SJW is simply a pejorative you ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 12, 2021:
@Toonman Mb_Man did, use his link if you like :)
By the way I am a card-carrying socialist, have been for forty years so have no knowledge of the "Lazy Right-Wing Dipshit checklist." something you seem very familiar with?
How true is it that religion has done more harm than good in the world ?
Paddypereira comments on Dec 11, 2021:
In my opinion, it was more the people who did all the harm in its name by perverting whatever was written in the considered "Holy Books". In older times, where life was brutal, might have been needed to give a sense of guidance to people. Nowadays, it has lost its purpose as people have better sense...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 11, 2021:
Most Holy book do not need to be perverted, they are perverted and evil filth.
Paddypereira comments on Dec 11, 2021:
In my opinion, it was more the people who did all the harm in its name by perverting whatever was written in the considered "Holy Books". In older times, where life was brutal, might have been needed to give a sense of guidance to people. Nowadays, it has lost its purpose as people have better sense...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 11, 2021:
Most Holy book do not need to be perverted, they are perverted and evil filth.
Babushka
noun
an elderly Russian woman, especially an elderly grandmother.
Charlene comments on Dec 10, 2021:
Guess I'm a babushka..lol..
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 11, 2021:
@MsKathleen Belarus is also a Slavic language and shares many words (Including Babushka) and intonations with Russian (though there is also a Polish influence there too).
Charlene comments on Dec 10, 2021:
Guess I'm a babushka..lol..
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 11, 2021:
@MsKathleen Belarus is also a Slavic language and shares many words (Including Babushka) and intonations with Russian (though there is also a Polish influence there too).
Babushka
noun
an elderly Russian woman, especially an elderly grandmother.
FrayedBear comments on Dec 11, 2021:
Here is an interesting article on the word written from a Russian historical perspective:
https://russiapedia.rt.com/of-russian-origin/babushka/
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 11, 2021:
Good article.
We, too, do in English especially in the North west of England refer to any old lady in an affectionate was as Mother.
In Japan, there are several affectionate terms for an older woman that directly translate as Mother, grandmother or big sister.
The article did remind me of the Russian monster THE BABA_YAGA, (literally the old witch) a child eating cannibal witch of great age who roamed the wastelands travelling in a house that walks on giant Chicken's legs, preying on disobedient children out alone after dark.
FrayedBear comments on Dec 11, 2021:
Here is an interesting article on the word written from a Russian historical perspective:
https://russiapedia.rt.com/of-russian-origin/babushka/
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 11, 2021:
Good article.
We, too, do in English especially in the North west of England refer to any old lady in an affectionate was as Mother.
In Japan, there are several affectionate terms for an older woman that directly translate as Mother, grandmother or big sister.
The article did remind me of the Russian monster THE BABA_YAGA, (literally the old witch) a child eating cannibal witch of great age who roamed the wastelands travelling in a house that walks on giant Chicken's legs, preying on disobedient children out alone after dark.
Babushka
noun
an elderly Russian woman, especially an elderly grandmother.
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 11, 2021:
An adopted word, Бабушка literally Grandmother in Russian
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 11, 2021:
@FrayedBear That is true in the same way we colloquially have granddad shirts and granny panties ;)
LenHazell53 comments on Dec 11, 2021:
An adopted word, Бабушка literally Grandmother in Russian
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 11, 2021:
@FrayedBear That is true in the same way we colloquially have granddad shirts and granny panties ;)
SJWs start victim blaming, it bound happen eventually.
Toonman comments on Dec 11, 2021:
There's no link to your source.
I have no reason to believe anything you say unless you can corroborate it.
And usually it's SJW's who are call-out victim-blaming, so either this is an exception to the rule or you don't know what a SJW is.
I have a feeling SJW is simply a pejorative you ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 11, 2021:
@Mb_Man Really, grow up.
Toonman comments on Dec 11, 2021:
There's no link to your source.
I have no reason to believe anything you say unless you can corroborate it.
And usually it's SJW's who are call-out victim-blaming, so either this is an exception to the rule or you don't know what a SJW is.
I have a feeling SJW is simply a pejorative you ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 11, 2021:
@Mb_Man Really, grow up.
SJWs start victim blaming, it bound happen eventually.
Mb_Man comments on Dec 11, 2021:
While it *looks* like someone within the school board defiantly showed their ass with the initial take, the event seems to have still gone forward. Embarrassing on the international stage, but not cancelled.
I post this here since the OP could'nt be bothered too. Must be because it dosen't fit ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 11, 2021:
I am afraid you are mistaken
The link you posted refers to a completely different case (that of Marie Henein author of Truth: A Memoir) unrelated to the one I referenced (Nadia Murad, author of The Last Girl: My Story of Captivity, and My Fight Against the Islamic State.)
Ms Henein was also banned by the TDSB because as a defence lawyer she did her job and represented Jian Ghomeshi at his trial for sexual assault, something apparently she should not have done because you know guilty until proven innocent.
There is a mention of the Murad case later in the article, but it is not the main focus and what is mentioned backs up my post, since it details how the TDSB had to be corrected and advised to rethink their policy.
Mb_Man comments on Dec 11, 2021:
While it *looks* like someone within the school board defiantly showed their ass with the initial take, the event seems to have still gone forward. Embarrassing on the international stage, but not cancelled.
I post this here since the OP could'nt be bothered too. Must be because it dosen't fit ...
LenHazell53 replies on Dec 11, 2021:
I am afraid you are mistaken
The link you posted refers to a completely different case (that of Marie Henein author of Truth: A Memoir) unrelated to the one I referenced (Nadia Murad, author of The Last Girl: My Story of Captivity, and My Fight Against the Islamic State.)
Ms Henein was also banned by the TDSB because as a defence lawyer she did her job and represented Jian Ghomeshi at his trial for sexual assault, something apparently she should not have done because you know guilty until proven innocent.
There is a mention of the Murad case later in the article, but it is not the main focus and what is mentioned backs up my post, since it details how the TDSB had to be corrected and advised to rethink their policy.
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