JUMPING TO CONCLUSION I was changing a clutch on a customer's Farmal 1066 tractor.

MsOliver comments on Jan 14, 2018:

Ugh, that one should have come with a vomit warning on it.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 14, 2018:

Sorry

JUMPING TO CONCLUSION I was changing a clutch on a customer's Farmal 1066 tractor.

DreadlySmart comments on Jan 14, 2018:

Well I can say I was jumping ahead in my mind on how the story was going to end. I figured you'd been putting the empty shells back into the bag and forgot you ate them all yada yada, didn't think about mice until I got to that part, thus I jumped to a conclusion here. In my defense, at work I ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 14, 2018:

Our brains work very different, but that is great! I bet you would be a lot of fun in person too:)

JUMPING TO CONCLUSION I was changing a clutch on a customer's Farmal 1066 tractor.

sassygirl3869 comments on Jan 14, 2018:

In college I had a summer job washing dishes at a family restaurant in Maine. What is Maine most known for?Lobsters. And what was sitting next to the left side of the sink next to me-two enormous lobsters. What decided to jump in my dishwasher causing me to let out a scream that could be heard ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 14, 2018:

I could only imagine. I've heard some of those lobsters are so big you could put a leash on them. I always wanted to go to Maine, and check out the sea food.

Forgive and forget?

Eazyduzzit comments on Jan 14, 2018:

My ex wife did some horrible things I'll never forget, but I had to forgive her for my own well being. It was eating me alive. I used to be minding my own business (this was many years ago) and I would get an image in my mind of her sitting on a railroad track unable to get her car started, and a ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 14, 2018:

I don't hold on to the negative feeling, I don't forgive either. They would have to make real clear amends before I would consider forgiving.

Ah the Golden Years.

stinkeye_a comments on Jan 13, 2018:

Fibromyalgia took my body away from me and imprisoned me in a torture chamber of debilitating pain and fatigue in my early twenties. I learned far earlier than most that you can't always count on your body to do what you expect or need--or simply be a place you want to live! After 15+ years I have...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 14, 2018:

@stinkeye_a I have warning signs for diabetes. I have to give up milk and any refined products which include flour. Maybe it will help with my pain. I wish my brain chemistry could tolerate Weed:) I happy for you: all that pain you had is gone. That must be euphoric. I am sure your mind and spirit will heal in due time. Thanks for sharing.

Ah the Golden Years.

stinkeye_a comments on Jan 13, 2018:

Fibromyalgia took my body away from me and imprisoned me in a torture chamber of debilitating pain and fatigue in my early twenties. I learned far earlier than most that you can't always count on your body to do what you expect or need--or simply be a place you want to live! After 15+ years I have...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 14, 2018:

@stinkeye_a What do you eat, or not eat. That sounds powerful and I would like to hear.

I am researching nuclear energy.

snytiger6 comments on Jan 12, 2018:

My main concern with nuclear energy is the waste. Some of the waste remains radioactive for over 100,000 years, even if most of the radioactive elements break down much sooner, there is stil the one that has that highly long half life. Another concern is that no private insurance company is ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 14, 2018:

@DreadlySmart The LFTR can use spent fuel pellets. The thorium is liquified in fluoride, and as they spilt the thorium atoms and the become radio active there is another process at work. Some thorium atom gain an electron and become ur233, thus after a period of time and fluoride medium is saturated with ur233 it automatically cools down because ur233 is not a good fuel. They use a catalyst refresh the medium allowing the splitting of the ur233 and thus converting it back into thorium. repeat repeat...until the fuel is exhausted. They can add the spent ur235, and burn it in a similar way. I am sure you can help out and correct some of the details:)

I am researching nuclear energy.

bingst comments on Jan 12, 2018:

I'd much rather see fusion become a reality.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 14, 2018:

@DreadlySmart You know my memory is fuzzy. I only know for sure that it was a new type of hydrogen and it did come from the moon, and a relatively small amount could produce enough power to supply the US for year. It was still a theory though about perfecting the fusion process.

Inter-religious couples?

Loudpaintings comments on Jan 13, 2018:

It has been really hard for me. My marriage ended over it. I am looking to date someone who is also not religious nor spiritual, but they are very few. I was living in California, which people might think is very progessive, but everyone is into New Age spirituality there if they are not Christian. ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 14, 2018:

I am glad I am married (44 years). I can't imagine what it would be like to be agnostic and date. I never liked dating anyhow. It was fun, but there were the break ups. Picking up the peaces and going on. I have seen relationships that worked well for a few where one was religious, and the other not. They succeeded by focussing on what they did have in common, and by remembering the good parts. Good luck

God doesn't exist, blah blah, Religion is for stupid people, blah, blah, "you are just cherry ...

stinkeye_a comments on Jan 12, 2018:

Challenging religion for the sake of challenging religion? Why? To win a metaphysical argument? What's the point? Challenging hatred, bigotry, prejudice, narrow-mindedness, corruption, neglect, hypocrisy, vainglory, etc. et al wherever they are found? Sign me up. I don't care what people...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 13, 2018:

@stinkeye_a I don't know if I can help out there or not. I do believe in that old axiom which states you can lead horse to water, but you can't make him drink. I also reflect on my previous religious life and remember how close minded and defensive I was. So I tend to live and let live unless they are making me uncomfortable. I prefer finesse over verbal combat, if I see an opportunity I will give a gentle nudge. I don't know if this is rational or not:)

God doesn't exist, blah blah, Religion is for stupid people, blah, blah, "you are just cherry ...

stinkeye_a comments on Jan 12, 2018:

Challenging religion for the sake of challenging religion? Why? To win a metaphysical argument? What's the point? Challenging hatred, bigotry, prejudice, narrow-mindedness, corruption, neglect, hypocrisy, vainglory, etc. et al wherever they are found? Sign me up. I don't care what people...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 13, 2018:

@stinkeye_a I understand that. I just happen to agree with your original comment. I think it is defensible.

God doesn't exist, blah blah, Religion is for stupid people, blah, blah, "you are just cherry ...

MichaelSpinler comments on Jan 12, 2018:

i dont mind when other take a back seat to the anti theist like myself and others, fighting the good fight. i dont go out of my way either, but i dont take crap from theist at all, if they make stupid statements around me, i challenge them. as long as you are not belittling the anti theist, and ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 13, 2018:

I think religion is losing credibility every day. I guess I prefer the horse whisper method and through understanding the individuals perspective I gently persuade.

God doesn't exist, blah blah, Religion is for stupid people, blah, blah, "you are just cherry ...

stinkeye_a comments on Jan 12, 2018:

Challenging religion for the sake of challenging religion? Why? To win a metaphysical argument? What's the point? Challenging hatred, bigotry, prejudice, narrow-mindedness, corruption, neglect, hypocrisy, vainglory, etc. et al wherever they are found? Sign me up. I don't care what people...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 13, 2018:

@ForTheWin That's pretty confrontational language. I can't understand why you'd lash out like that on such a minor difference of opinion.

Have you ever participated in Valentine's Day?

Crimson67 comments on Jan 9, 2018:

I love the winter holidays but abhor Valentines Day. I have never liked it even when I was married. I don't see it as a religious day more of a "guilt day". It is a designated day that people who aren't in relationship are made to feel "less" and those in a relationship are made to feel that the ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 13, 2018:

I always thought it was another day meant to test a man's memory:)

When I think of death and what it means to exist without hope for an afterlife I find this is ...

azzow2 comments on Jan 13, 2018:

Who want a funeral throw me in an oven incererate my body stick the ashes under a trees roots.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 13, 2018:

I conserve energy, and bury my non preserved body, and plant a pine tree over me.

so....soul, no soul?

GipsyOfNewSpain comments on Jan 12, 2018:

I have tendency to believe in possibility of soul but could be something else for somebody else. Soul to me is what I am after removing this physical form. What gives me life via my heart pumping blood. Call it spirit or call it nothing as such is real. I will have to die to find an answer I reckon.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 13, 2018:

@GipsyOfNewSpain Me Too:)

Ah the Golden Years.

Rudy1962 comments on Jan 13, 2018:

You're going to destroy my delusions of my retirement years.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 13, 2018:

If your not doing heavy manual work you probably will be fine:)

Ah the Golden Years.

PEGUS comments on Jan 13, 2018:

Life has been good for me. I am 81, go to the gym 5 mornings a week, walk in protest marches after making my own sign, see movies, travel to foreign countries and the US, hike in the mountains...none of it goes as fast or as well as I used to do, but still, Life is good. I have had 2 open heart ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 13, 2018:

I hope you become centenarian. I used to visit with a gal many years ago that was 107 years of age. She was an inspiration to me. She also had heart surgery. Thank you for sharing. I make it a point to walk a 1.5 miles everyday, and that has helped me.

Ah the Golden Years.

stinkeye_a comments on Jan 13, 2018:

Fibromyalgia took my body away from me and imprisoned me in a torture chamber of debilitating pain and fatigue in my early twenties. I learned far earlier than most that you can't always count on your body to do what you expect or need--or simply be a place you want to live! After 15+ years I have...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 13, 2018:

I am sorry to hear that. Just reading your comments I wouldn't have guessed you suffered with pain, but dialogue on the web is limited. People who see me know that body my is broken down. I take Norco #10s and I still wince when I move, or I am hunched over. I have had depression for years. I don't know what mental problems you have, but walking a mile and half a day helps my body and mind and spirit. Thanks for sharing.

Is evolution a fact or still just a theory.

Leutrelle comments on Jan 13, 2018:

I am agnostic and I wish I could say evolution was a matter of fact. Science can trace us from fish, to amphibians, to land mammals, to primates, but at least I haven't heard that they have found the definitive missing link. I don't have another plausible explanation, but still will struggle saying...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 13, 2018:

@carlyhorton Always willing to read. Thank you

How do you, as a nonbeliever say you're sorry for the death of someone's spouse or children or ...

GreenAtheist comments on Jan 12, 2018:

There are unlimited ways to comfort support and listen to the bereaved. ...religion is not one of them EVEN to a believer

Leutrelle replies on Jan 13, 2018:

That takes great insight to know that truth.

so....soul, no soul?

GipsyOfNewSpain comments on Jan 12, 2018:

I have tendency to believe in possibility of soul but could be something else for somebody else. Soul to me is what I am after removing this physical form. What gives me life via my heart pumping blood. Call it spirit or call it nothing as such is real. I will have to die to find an answer I reckon.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 13, 2018:

Yea - an ancient question to which there is no definitive answer.

I'm pretty tired of everyone talking about politics.

MattTheRed85 comments on Jan 12, 2018:

I thought this site was civilized and different ideas can be swapped without Some "go vegan, kill the jews" shit...oh did that catch you off guard. Guess what. Ultra liberals will kiss anyone's ass if he/she is tan or gay. But if you're a Jew, forget it. I'm on this site so I don't have a religion ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

If it is constructive dialogue then I have no problem. Name calling and I grow weary.

Artificial versus Natural: is there a difference?

Rufus_Maximus comments on Jan 12, 2018:

I've thought about this a lot as well. Unfortunately I think the distinction matters more and more now that ideas like organic eating etc. are heavily in the public eye; people want to feel like what they're eating is natural, "chemical free" but probably don't understand the distinction themselves....

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

@DreadlySmart You got to schooled me again. Well done!

Artificial versus Natural: is there a difference?

Rufus_Maximus comments on Jan 12, 2018:

I've thought about this a lot as well. Unfortunately I think the distinction matters more and more now that ideas like organic eating etc. are heavily in the public eye; people want to feel like what they're eating is natural, "chemical free" but probably don't understand the distinction themselves....

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

@zeliasgrand My sister has that celiac disease. For awhile she thought everyone she had a gluten allergy. It drove me nuts for a while. I think became marketing ploy

I am researching nuclear energy.

gearl comments on Jan 12, 2018:

I'm with you but as yet it seems to be a subject that people on both sides of the political equation fight tooth and nail. I see it as an educational problem but how to solve the problem I don't know.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

I hear ya loud and clear. I thought I would just deep my toe in and see how warm the water is.

A lesson in humility

Leutrelle comments on Jan 12, 2018:

I have that problem with booze. I will go for a year or two W/O a drop, and not really missing it, and I"ll be dammed if at some get together if I don't convince my self to have a couple drinks. That really isn't the problem. It gets bad because I tell myself the next day or so "that wasn't so bad ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

@GreenAtheist Toxic what:)

Struggle is Progress.

jlynn37 comments on Jan 12, 2018:

I do not think "struggle" is the right word to use for what nature does. Nature does what nature does and there is no "struggle" involved. (IMHO)

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

Are you sure? Because a deer struggles to survive a predators attack. But maybe the deer doesn't know he is struggling? But I know. I just don't know. Its kinda like that tree falling the woods - if nobody heard it did it still make a sound?

Struggle is Progress.

icolan comments on Jan 12, 2018:

You seem to be giving natural phenomena the attributes of consciousness. To struggle one would have to be conscious that it was under attack or being restrained. There is no struggle against gravity in the hearts of stars, gravity is the force that holds stars together until the explosive ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

Its like hyperbole. The moon move 1' further from earth every year. In figurative language the moon is struggling to break the bonds of earth.

I am researching nuclear energy.

bingst comments on Jan 12, 2018:

I'd much rather see fusion become a reality.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

@DreadlySmart I remember quite a few years ago they had discovered H3 in the moon rocks, and was supposed to make fusion possible. I do remember that all the big players were mapping territories out on the lunar surface. It was believed that this was a major energy break through.

I am researching nuclear energy.

bingst comments on Jan 12, 2018:

I'd much rather see fusion become a reality.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

I am just glad you replied, maybe in time fusion will become a reality. I believe at some point in reading there a mention fusion with the LFTR.

I am researching nuclear energy.

snytiger6 comments on Jan 12, 2018:

My main concern with nuclear energy is the waste. Some of the waste remains radioactive for over 100,000 years, even if most of the radioactive elements break down much sooner, there is stil the one that has that highly long half life. Another concern is that no private insurance company is ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

This waste is nearly spent. Some say its efficiency is 99%. The waste which will be much less than light water reactors, and the radioactivity is at the high end 200 years. Plus it can use the waste fuel that is currently being stored. It can also burn plutonium. So far alternative renewable energy only a very small % of our energy needs. Read about if you can it gives me hope.

Artificial versus Natural: is there a difference?

DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 12, 2018:

You just made my philosophical brain explode! I would comment more but there is grey matter to clean off the ceiling.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

@DavidLaDeau He does that I love it. He lives up to his name:)

I am researching nuclear energy.

shockwaverider comments on Jan 12, 2018:

Interesting. I don't have anything against nuclear power per se. In general China is eclipsing us in renewable energy. Are you asking a question?

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

I started with that in mind at least hope there is a question there. I hoping to encourage dialogue. I could have got wrapt up in the detail left that part out:(

I am researching nuclear energy.

andygee comments on Jan 12, 2018:

You are fighting the good fight, Leutrelle. (full disclosure: I'm a bicycle and stratospheric wind proponent myself, you could actually cool the planet with that if necessary). The thorium reactor starred in the Norwegian TV series Occupied, streamed on Netflix a couple of years ago. When ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

I appreciate that. I was apprehensive about posting that.

Ancient aliens.

Leutrelle comments on Jan 12, 2018:

I am with you Michael. I view Ancient Aliens for entertainment value. Everybody has to make living right:) I like watching the professionals show a practical method on how they believe the ancients drilled holes in stone or moved large stone, and sawed stone and this feeds my intellectual interest ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

@MichaelSpinler I for got about movie. Thanks for the input.

I have noticed a significant positive correlation between the religious (beliefs not supported by ...

Leutrelle comments on Jan 7, 2018:

I am agnostic, and I think Trump is about as good as most. Politician's are mostly corrupt liars that will do just about anything to get elected. Then lie and self serve, and lie some more, and make more money. On the other hand politicians albeit it is a tough job, but they fought hard to get it, ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

@BitFlipper I am curious, who do you think is an honest player?

There are many problems that the Human Race are facing today.

buck1977 comments on Jan 11, 2018:

The celebration of ignorance(religion and leftism)

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

@buck1977 I had hunch that was what you had in mind, but I had to be sure with the leftist comment of which there are many on this site and others. Your explanation is spot on. Thanks

Artificial versus Natural: is there a difference?

Rufus_Maximus comments on Jan 12, 2018:

I've thought about this a lot as well. Unfortunately I think the distinction matters more and more now that ideas like organic eating etc. are heavily in the public eye; people want to feel like what they're eating is natural, "chemical free" but probably don't understand the distinction themselves....

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

I have often pondered the term Organic Chemistry.

Artificial versus Natural: is there a difference?

DavidLaDeau comments on Jan 12, 2018:

You just made my philosophical brain explode! I would comment more but there is grey matter to clean off the ceiling.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 12, 2018:

He defiantly can make you think.

There are many problems that the Human Race are facing today.

buck1977 comments on Jan 11, 2018:

The celebration of ignorance(religion and leftism)

Leutrelle replies on Jan 11, 2018:

Care to elaborate? You can the mail if you want

There are many problems that the Human Race are facing today.

Rina comments on Jan 11, 2018:

Overpopulation. I think we will run out of resources before global warming or nuclear disaster will hit us.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 11, 2018:

It seems like it might be a close race:)

There are many problems that the Human Race are facing today.

DreadlySmart comments on Jan 11, 2018:

Lack of Understanding. Too many people **know** and too few **understand**. We cannot change **IT** until we understand **IT**. Condemnation will not liberate, merely oppress and fuel **IT**. Understand that **IT** is what **IT** is, you cannot force change upon **IT**, but you can change the ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 11, 2018:

@DreadlySmart I like the way you use analogies to make your point.

There are many problems that the Human Race are facing today.

JackPedigo comments on Jan 11, 2018:

Overpopulation is and will continue to be the driving force behind all our problems. No species can continue to grow without check and if we can't do it ourselves nature will (and is) do it for us. We need to get beyond the 2 basic drives, survival and procreation, and see what continued growth ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 11, 2018:

Really well said

There are many problems that the Human Race are facing today.

DreadlySmart comments on Jan 11, 2018:

Lack of Understanding. Too many people **know** and too few **understand**. We cannot change **IT** until we understand **IT**. Condemnation will not liberate, merely oppress and fuel **IT**. Understand that **IT** is what **IT** is, you cannot force change upon **IT**, but you can change the ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 11, 2018:

Heavy: I had to read it out loud to finally understand. We have try to understand even the people who haves idea that repulse us. Understanding is the beginning of conflict resolution.

There are many problems that the Human Race are facing today.

VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 11, 2018:

Our lack of understanding of our biology and the propensity to ignore history, which helps explain why our species, as though insane, keeps doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. https://youtu.be/ORthzIOEf30

Leutrelle replies on Jan 11, 2018:

I like TedTalk. Incredibly interesting. I have never heard anything like that. Wow!

There are many problems that the Human Race are facing today.

DJVJ311 comments on Jan 11, 2018:

I cannot think of a better answer or way to state it than she does in this video. The title doesn't really reflect the whole message. This is a very western-centric answer, but I think western civilization is the biggest threat to the human race. It's about 23 minutes long, but very well put ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 11, 2018:

That is scary. But she concludes with a solution which leaves me with hope. I love Ted Talk.

Egypt’s parliament in bid to ban atheism

Naeem comments on Jan 5, 2018:

The middle east is a sad place for freedom, democracy and sanity!

Leutrelle replies on Jan 11, 2018:

@Kreig Just curious, how did the British empire gain control of New Zealand?

I have noticed a significant positive correlation between the religious (beliefs not supported by ...

Leutrelle comments on Jan 7, 2018:

I am agnostic, and I think Trump is about as good as most. Politician's are mostly corrupt liars that will do just about anything to get elected. Then lie and self serve, and lie some more, and make more money. On the other hand politicians albeit it is a tough job, but they fought hard to get it, ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 11, 2018:

@BitFlipper I don't watch the news

I want to know what you think on the subject of Global Warming?

SageDave comments on Jan 9, 2018:

It is the speed of change that suggests that there is a man-made reason for climate change. We know that the earth is warming faster than before. We know that the depletion of the ozone layer is contributing to these changes. We know that this depletion is due in part to increase CO emissions. To ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 9, 2018:

Word's are tricky. I didn't say man was absolved, if I wasn't clear I will admit that of course man is a factor, but there are other factors. Thank for you for sharing your valid ideas.

I want to know what you think on the subject of Global Warming?

Bam85 comments on Jan 9, 2018:

It is a natural pattern that has gone on since the earth was formed. Man has aided in accelerating the process. It has to do with the air/gases/ozone. All of which we contaminate daily.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 9, 2018:

Hey Bam85 - I am glad you weighed in. I think there is truth in your words, but I think there is more to it. Just think about all the heat generated by asphalt on a sunny day (roads, roofs, parking lots), and all heat generated as a by product of air conditioning/refrigeration, and the millions of engines running on the roads, the turbines that generate power including nuclear. That is clearly caused by man even with hydro electric the end result is a lot of heat. Then with the ice melt there is more heat stored in the water. Then there is the incomprehensible volcano's raw heat and bad gases are spewed into the air.

I want to know what you think on the subject of Global Warming?

icolan comments on Jan 8, 2018:

"Many climate scientists agree that sunspots and solar wind could be playing a role in climate change, but the vast majority view it as very minimal and attribute Earth’s warming primarily to emissions from industrial activity—and they have thousands of peer-reviewed studies available to back up...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 9, 2018:

icolan: I read that link, and I think going to subscribe to it. Thanks

I want to know what you think on the subject of Global Warming?

DreadlySmart comments on Jan 8, 2018:

There were other models, but they failed to stand up to experimental data, that's what science is, we filter out the bad hypotheses, just because you only know of one doesn't mean there weren't more thought up and tossed out. We know what increased carbon in the atmosphere can do, on an extreme ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 9, 2018:

@DreadlySmart I am not sure where to start. I think Casey makes good argument 200 year cycle. You need read the book and then comment. I am not. saying you are wrong either. You obviously are more ahead of me on this subject. Truth be told I don't Know. Al Gore wasn't a Scientist, but he changed the path of history. Maybe he is right. What bothers me is we out sourced much of our industry to China as a reaction to this Global Warming model. You can't even buy a pipe fitting that is made in America. We could make the fitting with much less pollution because of regulations. The pipe fitting would cost more, but we would pollute less than China does. I see a contradiction there if the priority was to save the planet, but it seems the priority is too make money. In the mean time the blue collar middle class suffers when industry is out sourced. I was in the business of selling ag tractor parts. Most tractor replacement parts are made of cast iron and steel. They are made mostly in China and some were from India. We have lost many many manufacturing jobs. Their were no US made after market parts to by. It is the same way in the automotive industry. The parts are all out sourced. Casey did not speak on the geomagnitic field. I picked that up on Discovery Channel which said the earth's field has shut down, but they didn't say it shut down completely ( my bad). They did say that poles reversed, and was evidenced through volcanic magnetite. We have never witnessed a polarity flip, so scientists don't know for sure what to expect. How should I some this up? You make the best defense of Man caused global warming that I have heard to this date. I have a Question. When does Atlantic Conveyer come into play, and reverse the warming trend? I would also like if you are willing to understand how we could effect the star dust temperature? I am intrigued.

What are your thoughts on the CDCs wanting to get everone prepared for nuclear war?

EllenDale comments on Jan 8, 2018:

I was in grade school during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and we were taught to get under the desk for protection. As if!

Leutrelle replies on Jan 9, 2018:

I still tell the same story from time to time. The game has changed as more players join as the years go by. It seems like nuclear war is inevitable. I think it is more dangerous now than when I was a kid. So sad.

Hello folks! I'm new here.

HeathenFarmer comments on Jan 9, 2018:

Welcome to the community, I think thee problem is that a lot of people here are born again atheists and the damage they received from being religious is still fresh.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 9, 2018:

I haven't heard that one, but it could be an explanation.

I want to know what you think on the subject of Global Warming?

Firelands1973 comments on Jan 8, 2018:

There is a difference between natural climate change and that caused by man. Natural climate change is a long process. All the parts involved have time to adjust. Species die out while others grow to fill the void. Man has pulled carbon out of the ground, which was a part of the previous long ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 9, 2018:

What about volcanos, and super volcanos. What about frozen mammoths which so had vegetation in their mouth.

I want to know what you think on the subject of Global Warming?

DreadlySmart comments on Jan 8, 2018:

There were other models, but they failed to stand up to experimental data, that's what science is, we filter out the bad hypotheses, just because you only know of one doesn't mean there weren't more thought up and tossed out. We know what increased carbon in the atmosphere can do, on an extreme ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 9, 2018:

From what I understand it takes a long time for the planet to release all these gases. The Earths geomagnetic field has shut down completely in its history, and reversed polarity several times. According to John L. Casey who worked for NASA the Sun has been in a cooling stage in very recent history. He says according NASA the temperature of planet has been cooling. I appreciate your insight, but I don't think it is a slam dunk. I would feel it wasn't political if some of these theories were shared in a more public forum. Its not like science is never wrong:)

I want to know what you think on the subject of Global Warming?

icolan comments on Jan 8, 2018:

"Many climate scientists agree that sunspots and solar wind could be playing a role in climate change, but the vast majority view it as very minimal and attribute Earth’s warming primarily to emissions from industrial activity—and they have thousands of peer-reviewed studies available to back up...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 9, 2018:

Good thoughts, and thanks for the web sight.

I want to know what you think on the subject of Global Warming?

markdevenish comments on Jan 8, 2018:

put it this way . we are polluting the f... out of the air and water. don't you want this to stop? ?

Leutrelle replies on Jan 9, 2018:

Think I said that.

I want to know what you think on the subject of Global Warming?

astrochuck comments on Jan 8, 2018:

Don't worry, I added the science tag for you since the anthropogenic model of Global Warming is solid science.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 9, 2018:

Thanks

I have recently joined this agnostic/atheists group.

ashley44 comments on Jan 8, 2018:

Welcome Leutrelle! I am a retired woman and enjoy reading, classical music, movies, animals, and lots of other things. I am definitely NOT an outdoor, nature, hiker type. What types of books do you like to read? Right now I seem to be reading a lot of political books and trying to understand ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

The first book I read after I lost Faith was "The Origin of Consciousness and the Bicameral Mind", by Julian Jaynes. I like Daniel Quinn, and more recently I have been reading a lot about ancient history, anthropology, and alternative views of the origin of man and the age of man. I tried to figure out whats wrong with our government through political books, but grew weary. I think reading is key to keeping the mind growing. I don't know anyone who reads the stuff I read, with exception of Daniel Quinn.

I have recently joined this agnostic/atheists group.

MichaelSpinler comments on Jan 8, 2018:

well thats awesome welcome to the group. is this your first atheist/ agnostic group you have joined?

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

It is. I am not very computer savvy, and I was looking for research on agnostic thought. I hit the jackpot.

Your thoughts on gun ownership?

MsOliver comments on Jan 7, 2018:

I would also like to see existing gun laws actually enforced. We have domestic abusers who are supposed to not be able to be in possession of weapons buying them either through private sales or at gun shows. That should never happen. Also, who ever is responsible for reporting crimes that result ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

@MsOliver I got it. Lets hope they do.

Why does it seam cultural believers get a free pass?

BucketlistBob comments on Jan 8, 2018:

Someday we'll be able to stand up in a crowd and say we're atheist or agnostic. It's moving in that direction now. It starts with a forum like this. Then this forum becomes the place where we can say we originated from. It will become noted as the popular starting point. Cool!

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

@MichaelSpinler How did you deal with agnostics?

I'm kinda surprised with the bountiful expression of arrogance toward religion(s).

Benthoven comments on Jan 8, 2018:

There's a huge difference between "not knowing," and "not understanding." I know there is a specialty in mathematics called Physics. I don't "understand" how that mechanism works. I know that our universe is here through a process of evolution, but I don't understand how many of those mechanisms ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

Interesting read. You are quite the thinker. Don't you think Sagan inferred that we were part of the Universe and one group of thinkers in the Universe? I don't know, but believe that there is high probability of intelligent life in the Universe other than on our planet who have many of the same questions. Cheers

Trumps first year

Varn comments on Jan 8, 2018:

He stole the title of worst president in US history in record time ... it had previously taken Bush Jr. from 3 to 5 years to earn that. He represents the worst of both humanity and ‘America.’ I am ashamed, totally ashamed of my nation ..who I’d been so proud of with the election/s of Barack ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

And the debt too.

Trumps first year

Admin comments on Jan 8, 2018:

Hey everyone, please remember our guidelines about attacking others instead of their beliefs. Trump is a hot topic. Be constructive perhaps? Thanks :)

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

Thank you. Visceral comments and name calling do not promote healthy discourse.

Was there a reason why you chose "Agnostic" for this site?

MrControversy comments on Jan 7, 2018:

I called myself an atheist not long ago and I still practically am. I just have come to include the position that just because there's no evidence of a deity now doesn't mean there won't be. Now it's as likely that there would be evidence of a god as there would be evidence of Santa Claus. But ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

I have always been agnostic for that reason. .01% belief that there is a sentient god.

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HippieChick58 comments on Jan 8, 2018:

Education has been dumbed down in the last 50 to 100 years. Too much standardized testing, too little money for school not in the burbs. Too much homework, too much desk work, not enough PE or recess, and not enough real learning.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

I agree. If I read books from the late 18th century I have a hard time matching their vocabulary. The people that were educated processed a much higher standard of education than I received.

Your thoughts on gun ownership?

Crimson67 comments on Jan 7, 2018:

I own guns and always have. I agree there needs to be regulation and restrictions but I'm not sure how to implement them without infringement. The issue with licenses, training, insurance, registration is that it creates a monetary requirement that then sets up bias. There are people that cannot ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

I agree, money is always involved; it seems like with every problem. To much or to little...Your thinking is solid.

Your thoughts on gun ownership?

Knitfreak comments on Jan 8, 2018:

In 1996 there was a gun massacre in Australia. They changed their laws. I Australians value life and Americans are soooooooooo bound by the NRA song and dance that they are simply not seeing the situation for what it is. I agree with you... fully.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

I disagree. Guns are cultural in this country. Our ancestors fought for our freedom with a gun. I willing to bet I have family that fought in that war.

Your thoughts on gun ownership?

Leutrelle comments on Jan 7, 2018:

I can see that I am a minority. First off to own an automatic fire arm you have to be vetted by the ATF which is a long process and costs at least 200$ for the stamp. Secondly before buying the stamp one must first buy the automatic fire arm which there is a VERY limited supply, and were made I ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

Varn, did I mention the Wrist Rocket! As a young boy my wrist sling saved me from predatory man who I worked with at a fruit farm in Ca. Yes I will admit that I have more guns than I need. Finding a place to shoot is difficult where I live now, and I know for sure I miss the shooting sport. I build ARs and have them in various calibers. I just like the gun sport more!:)

How do you feel about people saying "I'm proud of my heritage", "I'm proud of being British", etc.

silvereyes comments on Jan 5, 2018:

Proud wouldn't be the descriptor I'd use. Interested, intrigued by... yes.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

Ya - I like intrigued

How do you feel about people saying "I'm proud of my heritage", "I'm proud of being British", etc.

Leutrelle comments on Jan 7, 2018:

My wife and I are going to get tested for our genetic markers to find in generic sense of who our extended kin are. I know I am part Cherokee, and who knows what European lineage I have, and my wife is half German. I think I might be a tiny bit proud of that DNA.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 8, 2018:

@GoldenDoll I'll have to think on it. Seems I've always had a little pride about my Indian heritage, but I don't wear it like a significant honor, and those I wouldn't flaunt. I look for it in my kids, so far I can see only one similarity in head shape in a grand kid.

What motivates you to get out of bed in the morning?

Levi_Hinton comments on Jan 4, 2018:

It used to be two cats that I had. Now I don't really have anything. Except depression, and that motivates me to stay in bed as long as possible most days. Some days are good, a lot are bad

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

I have been dealing with depression for along while. I have recently been told to try walking. It WORKS - about 1.5 miles a day keeps the dark away.

The big three!

BrianWilsonsDog comments on Dec 29, 2017:

Is there not some emotional value to prayer? Does it not have its own merit regardless of whether or not the one praying believes?

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

I kinda view it as healthy self talk.

Your thoughts on gun ownership?

Bam85 comments on Jan 7, 2018:

1911...Turkey disarms citizens....shortly after 1.5 million Armenians are murdered. 1929...Russia disarms citizens....over the next 24 years....20 million Russians are murdered. 1935....China disarms citizens....between 1948 and 1952....20 million Chinese are murdered. 1938....German ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

@RobAnybody I think that is fantastic security. The chain gun sounds absolutely rockin. I don't know who has a full auto let alone heavy gun like that. How do you tag someone?

Your thoughts on gun ownership?

Leutrelle comments on Jan 7, 2018:

I can see that I am a minority. First off to own an automatic fire arm you have to be vetted by the ATF which is a long process and costs at least 200$ for the stamp. Secondly before buying the stamp one must first buy the automatic fire arm which there is a VERY limited supply, and were made I ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

It's a sport Varn. I enjoy shooting fire arms, but really enjoy shooting consistent accurate groups on paper. When I was a kid I liked my BB gun. When I was able I like the traditional long bow. The point was always to hit target consistently. I shoot clays with my 20 gauge. I have thought long and hard about self-defense, and I can tell it is a frightening image. I have Idaho Enhanced Concealed Carry License that is honored in 30 plus States (Illinois not being one). It is a big responsibility to carry a gun, and should be.

I have noticed a significant positive correlation between the religious (beliefs not supported by ...

DUCHESSA comments on Jan 7, 2018:

Religion USES fear to manipulate people. Now from there to get Trump supporters involved in this is an stretch. I voted for Trump for very specific reasons.....and no one has to do with religion. Remember, he will be President only once....and I hope it will be enough to accomplish what I and many ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

You go girl:)

New here.

HSZ3399 comments on Jan 7, 2018:

Thanks, everyone! I should clarify that I live close to a larger "city" of about 20,000 where I have many accepting friends, and also my family who is accepting and share some of my religious beliefs. So, I'm not alone. I moved to this smaller town because the housing market is cheap. I'm not ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

No worries - you are in good company here in Idaho:)

Your thoughts on gun ownership?

zanyfish comments on Jan 7, 2018:

Anyone care to disagree with the points made here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0 ... ? I'm sure you've all seen it before.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

Zanyfish old buddy I could, but why? Honestly I am not here to throw more wood on the fire.

Your thoughts on gun ownership?

Leutrelle comments on Jan 7, 2018:

I can see that I am a minority. First off to own an automatic fire arm you have to be vetted by the ATF which is a long process and costs at least 200$ for the stamp. Secondly before buying the stamp one must first buy the automatic fire arm which there is a VERY limited supply, and were made I ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

@GreenAtheist Yea that is depressing huh. I would like start throwing politician in the slammer when they responsible for such gross negligence. *****!!!

Your thoughts on gun ownership?

KKGator comments on Jan 7, 2018:

I'd be fine with gun ownership being as it was originally under the 2nd Amendment. Single shot firearms. I know it's never going to go back to that, but that would be the ideal for me. I don't think anyone should possess any kind of semi-automatic weapon. I agree with your entire comment.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

The single shot black powder long rifle was basically the same weapon that the army had at that time. I think we should have the same rifle today as the military carries, however we don't have that right.

Your thoughts on gun ownership?

MsOliver comments on Jan 7, 2018:

I would also like to see existing gun laws actually enforced. We have domestic abusers who are supposed to not be able to be in possession of weapons buying them either through private sales or at gun shows. That should never happen. Also, who ever is responsible for reporting crimes that result ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

I agree except for 1 tinny detail. I am not sure what you mean concerning the"ineligibility for the military"?

Your thoughts on gun ownership?

markdevenish comments on Jan 7, 2018:

guns should be 10k and bullets should be 500$ each in a perfect world and no carry rights . in gun clubs only. you want to hunt use a cross bow

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

Well I suppose at least the billionaires could still afford to shoot.

Your thoughts on gun ownership?

Bam85 comments on Jan 7, 2018:

1911...Turkey disarms citizens....shortly after 1.5 million Armenians are murdered. 1929...Russia disarms citizens....over the next 24 years....20 million Russians are murdered. 1935....China disarms citizens....between 1948 and 1952....20 million Chinese are murdered. 1938....German ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

@RobAnybody Your right on the money, we wouldn't stand a chance against the military with drones, Black Hawks, rockets, tanks, and well trained soldiers. It would be a bloody mess! But that being said, I see no reason to make any easier. I don't buy this; "a well regulated militia" as much as you. With respect to your opinion, I think it also included protecting yourself, family, neighbor.

Your thoughts on gun ownership?

Bam85 comments on Jan 7, 2018:

I am pro gun. I own guns. Registration of firearms is done is done when you buy new, as well as a background check. That is a good thing. Requiring a mental screening would not be a bad idea either. I dont believe in insurance or license though. Fact of the matter is, if someone wants a gun, they ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

Hey just want shout out to Bam85. This is hot topic in which I think you navigate well. I really like the statistics, but I couldn't press "like" on my end of the computer:)

How do you personify what you are rather than focusing on what you are not.

stinkeye_a comments on Jan 7, 2018:

I am working on unbecoming. When you erase yourself, wondrous space opens up. Am I this? Am I that? Am I? The less that I "am", the more "myself" I feel. That is my truth.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

Makes sense, and makes me want to understand that in my own life.

How do you personify what you are rather than focusing on what you are not.

LeighShelton comments on Jan 7, 2018:

as far as religion goes I look at my dogs and their belief is the same as mine.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

Leigh I am sorry I missed your comment on my first browse. That dog analogy made me chuckle, and at the same time it rang so true:)

Does anyone believe that theists are generally honest and sincere in their claims?

mjpwl comments on Oct 24, 2017:

The so called teachings of Christ are basically just rules to live decently and interact with society in a thoughtful and considerate way. The thing I find really hard to accept are theists who are outwardly intelligent and well educated still able to swallow the implausible concepts put forward ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

@Golden Doll I think you got me:) I don't know how my wife has put up with me for 45 years.

General consensus on psychedelics?

Charlietuna7 comments on Jan 5, 2018:

There's this whole movement now with underground therapists treating people also legally the New Yorker magazine had a great article about treating somebody with anxiety because of cancer. He had a therapist in a controlled environment and they gave him psilocybin and and Ritalin. Importantly ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 7, 2018:

I have read and watched video which I believe showed some promising results. I do think it best used in a medical setting. I grew up in the Bay Area Ca. in the 60's and am familiar with psychotropics. Proper dose and supervision is the best way. But why would the government abandon the cash cow big Pharma? The won't even allow medical study on the subject. The truth is being sick makes money. I wish it was not so:(

The friendly atheists next door

ErikGunderson comments on Jan 4, 2018:

I think the lesson here is that the fellow had religious behavior embedded into his day-to-day, moment-to-moment behavior patterns. Shaking that off was a matter of sustained, conscious, and difficult effort. It might have felt a bit like what someone who is trying to quit smoking goes through. ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 6, 2018:

I appreciate your empathy. I have been agnostic for many years, and still have religious baggage.

What are your views on the religion which is referred to as 'Hinduism'?

DJVJ311 comments on Jan 6, 2018:

I am going to take this opportunity to talk about a religion in “romantic terms”. I am not a Hindu, but I have some exposure and appreciation for it. I was raised as an agnostic by 2 devout Hindu parents in NY. All of my information is colored by their personal beliefs and some random reading...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 6, 2018:

I like how you think:)

Religious impact nationwide

Dav87 comments on Jan 6, 2018:

The Church of England runs most schools in the UK so secular parents or parents of other faiths can find it difficult to undo damage done, luckily I was raised to question everything. There are also many religious people involved in our politics which has slowed progress in gay rights, and sex ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 6, 2018:

Thanks for your perspective. I never would have guessed that any church would be in charge of schools.

How free did you feel when you finally broke free out of the shackles and chains of religion?

MrControversy comments on Jan 6, 2018:

I felt free for a while until I realized that nearly every political persuasion acts like a religion too. So I had to break free from those shackles as well. I feel free but lonely too. Realizing things that most of the world doesn't is a lonely business.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 6, 2018:

So true...

Should euthanasia or "death with dignity" be available to anyone upon demand under controlled ...

wordywalt comments on Nov 14, 2017:

Absolutely, it should be available. Legal or not, if I reach the stage of being so disabled that life has little quality and/or if I am a burden on others, I WILL exercise that choice.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 6, 2018:

@SoloSentient With passing of my 91 old mother who wanted to be euthanatized, I would also want an exit kit. Dying slowly is not pretty. As I understand the right type of helium is hard to get a hold of. If you have any info to help me prepare, please share:)

Does anyone believe that theists are generally honest and sincere in their claims?

mjpwl comments on Oct 24, 2017:

The so called teachings of Christ are basically just rules to live decently and interact with society in a thoughtful and considerate way. The thing I find really hard to accept are theists who are outwardly intelligent and well educated still able to swallow the implausible concepts put forward ...

Leutrelle replies on Jan 6, 2018:

@GoldenDoll I was a christian for many years. I found it hard to integrate OT with the NT, but with that aside and many years as an agnostic, I can still remember being a rule follower. I still follow one; the "Golden Rule".

Are you an open or closet agnostic/atheist, and why?

DragonDust comments on Dec 14, 2017:

Foot out of Closet. My family is unaware, my friends aren't. My parents are both religious and I don't want to ruin my relationship with them.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 6, 2018:

Don't feel bad for you are not alone. I know people who are stuck in that same predicament, and religious folks can be difficult when confronted. Your friends know so that may be enough for now:)

Is this life all there is?

Cheri comments on Jan 6, 2018:

I can't imagine there being anything after this life, especially since I can't remember anything before this life. That's why I make this life everything I can. I think one of the most disturbing things about religion is that people will waste their life in hopes of Heavenly Rewards.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 6, 2018:

You make good point! Thanks

Do you ever miss the religious life?

Crimson67 comments on Dec 18, 2017:

I never had a religious life so nothing to miss. I will admit that I envy the sense of community and connection that people get from going to church.

Leutrelle replies on Jan 6, 2018:

Well I envy that you didn't waste so many years and money:)