Those who give up essential freedom for temporary safety deserve neither

LovinLarge comments on Dec 27, 2020:

B. Franklin was a liberal. https://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famous-liberty-safety-quote-lost-its-context-in-21st-century

LovinLarge replies on Dec 27, 2020:

@Thirst2learn As always, you can't prove your claims because they're not true.

So my FB page has a bunch of Xmas messages reminding me that Jesus was born on this day and how he ...

SkagwayKim comments on Dec 26, 2020:

Personally, I retaliated this year by posting such gems on my Facebook as “23 1/2 degree tilt is the REAL reason for the season” and “keep Saturn in Saturnalia” as well as pointing out the even the damn Bible doesn’t offer a date for when Jesus was fabricated...I mean “born”. But ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 26, 2020:

Anyone who calls a woman a "bitch" merely exposes their frustration that she doesn't have to participate in traditional scams like religion and patriarchy. Once you know someone doesn't view you as an equal, their opinions are meaningless.

When I was a kid, we had excellent Christmases.

DenoPenno comments on Dec 26, 2020:

I remember those times but it s all different now.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 26, 2020:

Yes, things change but the memories remain the same and I hope you enjoy yours. I guess one of the human challenges is how we adapt to change as each new year unfolds. My sincere best wishes for yours!

When I was a kid, we had excellent Christmases.

Mofo1953 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

The only issue I have with what you say is the brainwashing fallacy religion has ingrained in people that there is something magical in the season when in truth, all the days of our existence in this world should be spent spreading peace and love to all.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 26, 2020:

@Mofo1953 You're properly unnerved because your argument is nonsensical. I can't change my childhood and although Christmas has a religious connotation, it never has for my family. Nothing is being denied except your ability to mount a cogent argument. I have yet to see you contribute anything of value to any thread. Calling your wife your "housekeeper" was particularly offensive. You are unworthy of my time. Blocked.

When I was a kid, we had excellent Christmases.

Mofo1953 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

The only issue I have with what you say is the brainwashing fallacy religion has ingrained in people that there is something magical in the season when in truth, all the days of our existence in this world should be spent spreading peace and love to all.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@Mofo1953 It's awfully hard to take someone seriously who has the extremely poor judgment to even try to argue that there's something wrong with me enjoying my childhood memories from Christmas. How exactly does that fit in to your earlier claim that "all the days of our existence in this world should be spent spreading peace and love to all"? I guess that's a standard you impose on others but don't hold yourself to.

So my FB page has a bunch of Xmas messages reminding me that Jesus was born on this day and how he ...

LovinLarge comments on Dec 25, 2020:

I share a lot of atheist posts on my FB page. That usually settles the issue.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@Sgt_Spanky Definitely. Almost everyone I know is religious to some extent and most of those relationships I am not willing to sacrifice over a single issue. After all, we're always going to differ from everyone else on at least one issue and that is probably a good thing.

So my FB page has a bunch of Xmas messages reminding me that Jesus was born on this day and how he ...

LovinLarge comments on Dec 25, 2020:

I share a lot of atheist posts on my FB page. That usually settles the issue.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@Sgt_Spanky Yes, text is usually not conducive to the discussion of substantive topics. I meant that I post atheist articles and memes that I like. It's a way if marking my territory, I suppose. It has also cost me relationships, which seems to me a very efficient way of separating the wheat ftom the chaff.

When I was a kid, we had excellent Christmases.

Mofo1953 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

The only issue I have with what you say is the brainwashing fallacy religion has ingrained in people that there is something magical in the season when in truth, all the days of our existence in this world should be spent spreading peace and love to all.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@Mofo1953 Let's see your "clear evidence" of any role of religion in my childhood Christmases.

When I was a kid, we had excellent Christmases.

Mofo1953 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

The only issue I have with what you say is the brainwashing fallacy religion has ingrained in people that there is something magical in the season when in truth, all the days of our existence in this world should be spent spreading peace and love to all.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@Mofo1953 Christmas does still not have a religious connotation for my family and me, nor do my cherished memories of it.

When I was a kid, we had excellent Christmases.

JackPedigo comments on Dec 25, 2020:

Happy holiday to you too. I also had fond memories. My mother was a whiz at stocking stuffing and one was hung at the end of each of our beds. We would spend sooo much time with this it gave my parents extra time to sleep in. Then there was the usual mountain of gifts (usually followed in a ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@JackPedigo I love how he was accepted as part of the family despite his shortcomings. We all have our shortcomings, some just more apparent than others, but it doesn't change who your family is.

So my FB page has a bunch of Xmas messages reminding me that Jesus was born on this day and how he ...

anglophone comments on Dec 25, 2020:

I have no time for any moron who buys into the fairy tale of a virgin birth (see also Ishtar, Queen Mautmes, Alcmene and Devaki) and even less time for anyone who uses that as an excuse to belabour me with their absurd religion.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@anglophone I hesitate to conceed that religion may be necessary because that would mean it can never go away, but given the amount of reliance on it by some people it is entirely possible.

So my FB page has a bunch of Xmas messages reminding me that Jesus was born on this day and how he ...

anglophone comments on Dec 25, 2020:

I have no time for any moron who buys into the fairy tale of a virgin birth (see also Ishtar, Queen Mautmes, Alcmene and Devaki) and even less time for anyone who uses that as an excuse to belabour me with their absurd religion.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@anglophone But I am still 100% on board with you about not tolerating prosthlytizing and also acknowledge religion as a nefarious force, but because of my experience I don't want to refuse to interact with people in real time strictly because they are religious.

So my FB page has a bunch of Xmas messages reminding me that Jesus was born on this day and how he ...

anglophone comments on Dec 25, 2020:

I have no time for any moron who buys into the fairy tale of a virgin birth (see also Ishtar, Queen Mautmes, Alcmene and Devaki) and even less time for anyone who uses that as an excuse to belabour me with their absurd religion.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

So here's the funny thing about that. I used to go to a meetup group for skeptics, atheist and agnostics as it turned out. As a general comment, they had poor social skills, were unnecessarily argumentative, were unfriendly and downright unkind to each other. I was not the target of any of those behaviors because I kept a very low profile once I saw how they treated each other. I can't recall seeing a group of religious people treat each other similarly, so strictly on the issue of who is better company I have to go with religious people. No one who knows I am an atheist ever raises the issue of religion with me and that is good enough for me.

Has anyone else taken the NAMI course for people who have friends or family that are struggling with...

LovinLarge comments on Dec 25, 2020:

I'm glad you took that course. Sometimes NAMI is the only support available. I used to facilitate the NAMI support group in my city and took the NAMI course for that. I thought it was good that they had at least some kind of training available in case people didn't have other training. Ii's ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@Surfpirate I think until you experience it first hand, it's hard to believe that anyone could take such delusions seriously, and yet they are in earnest. I am so relieved that you are placing the safety of your family and yourself above all else. Sure they are your brother and sister and if you can facilitate any support that's great, but not at the expense of your own well-being. Yes, mental illness is always complicated and services in this country need to be improved.

When I was a kid, we had excellent Christmases.

powder comments on Dec 25, 2020:

You kinda touched on what I was on about the other day re smart phones. Many "traditions" like playing board games are a thing of the past mostly. Have a good silly season

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

My very best wishes for you in the New Year! Cheers!

When I was a kid, we had excellent Christmases.

Larry68Feminist comments on Dec 25, 2020:

White xmas is all about xian privilege....most xians and conformists are well intentioned and minimally if at all bigots towards Jews Atheists and sects who do not conform to this commercialholy day..... but just one open eye to a black girl getting a white doll from ANYONE last nite @ midnight or ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

All important things that are unaffected by my good fortune to enjoy a few childhood memories and share the few dollars that I have left at the end of the year with others.

When I was a kid, we had excellent Christmases.

Mofo1953 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

The only issue I have with what you say is the brainwashing fallacy religion has ingrained in people that there is something magical in the season when in truth, all the days of our existence in this world should be spent spreading peace and love to all.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

I get that. In my case, I actually don't think that I knew back then that Christmas had a religious connotation. I know that doesn't seem possible, but we lived in Canada at the time and Canada does not have the overwhelming level of religiousity that the US has. My parents were agnostic and religion was never mentioned in our household so I was one of the lucky ones. The magic of Christmas for me pertains to feelings that arose in childhood when I still believed in magic and strictly to the exchange of goodwill. Peace and love to you!

When I was a kid, we had excellent Christmases.

JackPedigo comments on Dec 25, 2020:

Happy holiday to you too. I also had fond memories. My mother was a whiz at stocking stuffing and one was hung at the end of each of our beds. We would spend sooo much time with this it gave my parents extra time to sleep in. Then there was the usual mountain of gifts (usually followed in a ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

Great picture, thank you! Funny how what came so naturally then we remember so fondly now. Even Uncle Wag's antics are entrenched in the joyful memories! Thank you very much for sharing and my very best wishes to you.

I used to be a nicer person.

dave1459 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

So you want every body in China to die? That was where it started.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@dave1459 Nothing you've said bears any relation to the truth or to the original post. You used this post to disseminate disinfotmation. You're not fooling anyone.

When I was a kid, we had excellent Christmases.

Paddypereira comments on Dec 25, 2020:

Thanks, Happy Holidays to you too and your loved ones!!! I spent today on my own and it's been very good so far. I would love to have spent it with one of my cousins in France or Switzerland but it wasn't possible. Screw it!!! No complaints about it.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

Yes, alone works for me, also, especially this year. SO glad you are enjoying your day! I also very much appreciate my relatives and hope that you will get to enjoy yours again soon. May the New Year smile kindly at you!

When I was a kid, we had excellent Christmases.

Jolanta comments on Dec 25, 2020:

Happy holidays and all nice thing to you too.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

Thank you and very best wishes to you, now and always.

I used to be a nicer person.

dave1459 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

So you want every body in China to die? That was where it started.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@dave1459 You lied about the very first link you posted so I won't waste my time with any others. You're a lonely old man with nothing better to do on Christnas than hatemonger. Seriously, keep that shit to yourself.

I used to be a nicer person.

dave1459 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

So you want every body in China to die? That was where it started.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@dave1459 You have established yourself as a liar. You even post links and pretend they say things they don't. You have no credibility.

I used to be a nicer person.

dave1459 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

So you want every body in China to die? That was where it started.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@dave1459 Follow link to story. https://www.definitions.net/definition/go+fuck+yourself

I used to be a nicer person.

dave1459 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

So you want every body in China to die? That was where it started.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@dave1459 If you read your own article before you posted it, you wouldn't be contradicting it now. You are a dishonest person who speads information without making sure it is accurate first. I have no respect for you. I would not give you the time of day in real time and you are a waste of my time here, also. The only reason I don't block you is so I can continue to expose your lies. You are what is wrong with this country.

I used to be a nicer person.

dave1459 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

So you want every body in China to die? That was where it started.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@dave1459 Don't flood the page, you dumbass. You are conveniently ignoring where the first case was reported. Now, let's see you prove this impossible claim of yours about Cuomo: "The governor ordered covid into nursing homes exposing older people to covid."

I used to be a nicer person.

dave1459 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

So you want every body in China to die? That was where it started.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@dave1459 Your link proves her right, not wrong and still zero evidence of your own claims.

I used to be a nicer person.

dave1459 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

So you want every body in China to die? That was where it started.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@dave1459 You don't get to ask other people for proof when you haven't provided any yourself, hypocrite.

I used to be a nicer person.

dave1459 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

So you want every body in China to die? That was where it started.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@dave1459 Right, now it's MY responsibility to provide the evidence to support YOUR false claims. Didn't quite make the junior high debate team, did you, Einstein? Did you even make junior high? No one takes you seriously. I just wanted to make sure you knew it. Why aren't you in hiding with the other cons?

I used to be a nicer person.

dave1459 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

So you want every body in China to die? That was where it started.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@dave1459 It's not my responsibility to teach you what evidence is, it's your responsibility to provide the evidence when making factual allegations. You have no credibility because there is no evidence to support your claims because your claims are false. That's why you've been identified as a troll.

I used to be a nicer person.

dave1459 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

So you want every body in China to die? That was where it started.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@dave1459 YOU are the one making dubious factual allegations. YOU can't prove anything you've said. YOU are always the one who turns healthy discussion into hatemongering. Even I am embarrassed for you.

I used to be a nicer person.

dave1459 comments on Dec 25, 2020:

So you want every body in China to die? That was where it started.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@dave1459 You are a historical revisionist. You can't support anything you've said with evidence. No one here is going to fall for your disinformation campaign. Shove your racism.

Merry Christmas Everyone! Eat, drink, and be merry! Forget about God - and, sometimes, atheism too!...

DenoPenno comments on Dec 25, 2020:

Today is a dinner at my youngest daughter's. It is the first such dinner in 3 years.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

That sounds hopeful!

The issues regarding 'trans' people are some of the hardest for me to reconcile.

LovinLarge comments on Dec 25, 2020:

Nay. 1. Only the woman in question is qualified to define her gender. 2. Larger body type might be an advantage in some competitive sports but will not be in others. Let us not stoop to allowing sports to play a role in things that actually matter. 3. 100% inclusion is always the ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 25, 2020:

@Willow_Wisp That's a very good point that we should be able to safely discuss these things here. I should have clarified that this is my position because it is the most progressive one but not everyone is there yet or even wants to be there. Perhaps my fundamental point is that what one has between their legs has been given too much emphasis for too long and I'd like to see us move on to focus on more important things. Thanks for your input.

To all my fellow athiest friends.

LovinLarge comments on Dec 24, 2020:

To single out Islam rather than denouncing all religion is a function of racism.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 24, 2020:

@Spongebob I will explain it one final time. The complaints made about Islam in the original post are not exclusive to Islam, which show that the comment has an ulterior motive just like yours do. Note that the author was likely not even an atheist since they could not even spell it. I do not participate in the discussion of religion. The end.

To all my fellow athiest friends.

LovinLarge comments on Dec 24, 2020:

To single out Islam rather than denouncing all religion is a function of racism.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 24, 2020:

@Spongebob Even if that were true, it doesn't disprove singling out Islam as a function of racism.

Hate versus food

LovinLarge comments on Dec 23, 2020:

Imagine understanding life so poorly that you resort to using a childrens' book to speak for you.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 23, 2020:

@Thirst2learn You're an illiterate old man with no education relegated to reading children's books. You have nothing of value to offer anyone.

Hate versus food

LovinLarge comments on Dec 23, 2020:

Imagine understanding life so poorly that you resort to using a childrens' book to speak for you.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 23, 2020:

@Thirst2learn Prove it, you lying sack of shit.

Hate versus food

LovinLarge comments on Dec 23, 2020:

Imagine understanding life so poorly that you resort to using a childrens' book to speak for you.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 23, 2020:

@Thirst2learn Let's see your evidence that I am "still depending on gubbermint".

Hate versus food

LovinLarge comments on Dec 23, 2020:

Imagine understanding life so poorly that you resort to using a childrens' book to speak for you.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 23, 2020:

@Thirst2learn You do realize that your comments are nonsensical, right?

Hate versus food

LovinLarge comments on Dec 23, 2020:

Imagine understanding life so poorly that you resort to using a childrens' book to speak for you.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 23, 2020:

@Thirst2learn No wonder you don't give your age in your profile.

I have traveled quite a bit both in the US and abroad, and when traveling I have tried some pretty ...

LovinLarge comments on Dec 22, 2020:

Very good subject matter. I would avoid Rocky Mountain Oysters. My mother's French Silk Chocolate Pie is to die for. I have not made it in years but plan to on Thursday. Happy holidays everyone!

LovinLarge replies on Dec 22, 2020:

@Lorajay As a child you looked forward to the castration of bulls? Were you aware of the pain involved?

I was an atheist for only 4 years so I don’t have any outstanding credibility as such, but I grew ...

LovinLarge comments on Dec 21, 2020:

I had no idea how many Americans were illiterate until Trump was elected.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 22, 2020:

@Albronem I have zero interest in your nonsensical ramblings. Address me again and I will block you.

I was an atheist for only 4 years so I don’t have any outstanding credibility as such, but I grew ...

LovinLarge comments on Dec 21, 2020:

I had no idea how many Americans were illiterate until Trump was elected.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 22, 2020:

@Albronem You claim to have "seen the ultimate truth" but provide zero supporting evidence or information. You are completely full of shit, in every language.

Not all bilionaires are creeps.

LovinLarge comments on Dec 21, 2020:

The issue is not whether they are "creeps", the issue is whether they pay enough income tax. They don't, regardless of their charitable contributions.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 22, 2020:

@Mitch07102 Not just unfair, regressive. She didn't create it but she does benefit ftom it

I was an atheist for only 4 years so I don’t have any outstanding credibility as such, but I grew ...

LovinLarge comments on Dec 21, 2020:

I had no idea how many Americans were illiterate until Trump was elected.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 22, 2020:

@Albronem No. Support your claim with evidence or admit you live in a fantasy world.

I was an atheist for only 4 years so I don’t have any outstanding credibility as such, but I grew ...

LovinLarge comments on Dec 21, 2020:

I had no idea how many Americans were illiterate until Trump was elected.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 21, 2020:

@Albronem I'm sure you express yourself more coherently in your first language. I'm equally sure your claim to have "seen the ultimate truth" is entirely false. Prove me wrong or save the bs claims.

What Kinda Funeral Do Atheist Have?

Hages comments on Dec 20, 2020:

There’s no need to ask this.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 20, 2020:

@barjoe Not necessarily.

What Kinda Funeral Do Atheist Have?

LovinLarge comments on Dec 20, 2020:

More importantly, why do Xstains and other believers insist on coming here to ask stupid questions?

LovinLarge replies on Dec 20, 2020:

@Canndue I hate to break this to you misogynist but your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. Go find someone who's actually interested in interacting with you, if you can.

What Kinda Funeral Do Atheist Have?

LovinLarge comments on Dec 20, 2020:

More importantly, why do Xstains and other believers insist on coming here to ask stupid questions?

LovinLarge replies on Dec 20, 2020:

@Canndue gfy

Made some Afghan cheese today.

LovinLarge comments on Dec 18, 2020:

It's hard to go wrong with cheese. I have never considered making it but that looks very intriguing. Was it hard to make? What are you going to do with it?

LovinLarge replies on Dec 19, 2020:

@FreethoughtKaty Thanks, that's very interesting, I believe I will have to try that!

Reply to the late Stephen Hawkings

VeronicaAnn comments on Dec 15, 2020:

What? I’m confused. Are you trolling, a bot, or actually serious... ?? Being a scientist doesn’t automatically make you knowledgeable of every single thing that happens in the Universe. If it did, there would be NO questions on how we got here. The Big Bang Theory is the closest scientific ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 15, 2020:

@Oassword is intellectually lazy because he's a believer.

A court ordered investigation/ audit into Dominion voting machines.

LovinLarge comments on Dec 15, 2020:

1. There's no credible evidence of any fraud. 2. Because there is no credible evidence of any fraud, Biden's claim of no fraud is true. 3. Biden is not responsible for policing the election. 4. Anyone can saying anything in a document but none of it is necessarily true. 5. What evidence do ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 15, 2020:

@powder We don't have an election problem, we have an integrity problem. Republicans are willing to lie to win, so says more than 50 election fraud lawsuits dismissed for lack of evidence.

A court ordered investigation/ audit into Dominion voting machines.

LovinLarge comments on Dec 15, 2020:

1. There's no credible evidence of any fraud. 2. Because there is no credible evidence of any fraud, Biden's claim of no fraud is true. 3. Biden is not responsible for policing the election. 4. Anyone can saying anything in a document but none of it is necessarily true. 5. What evidence do ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 15, 2020:

@powder Yep, a Republican judge ordered an investigation by a cyber security firm headed by Republican Ramsland. Sounds completely impartial.

A court ordered investigation/ audit into Dominion voting machines.

LovinLarge comments on Dec 15, 2020:

1. There's no credible evidence of any fraud. 2. Because there is no credible evidence of any fraud, Biden's claim of no fraud is true. 3. Biden is not responsible for policing the election. 4. Anyone can saying anything in a document but none of it is necessarily true. 5. What evidence do ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 15, 2020:

@powder 1. There's no evidence for the need for improvement on the issue of fraud. 2. There's no evidence that this document was court ordered. 3. We have multiple convictions of Trumpers to show that perjury is the least of their crimes. 4. There is only one author and his credibility is very much in question. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/04/russell-james-ramsland-jr/affidavit-michigan-lawsuit-seeking-overturn-electi/ https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/12/04/michigan-lawsuit-makes-wild-claims-voter-turnout/3829654001/ https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-supporter-election-lawsuit-affidavit-seems-to-mix-up-michigan-and-minnesota/ar-BB1bd8KP

Hello all! Two of my fav ingredients are cinnamon and vinegar, although not together.

clarkatticus comments on Dec 14, 2020:

Cincinnati chili, cinnamon, cumin, chili powder, garlic, onions sugar,and cayenne for heat. Tomatoes and hamburger of course. Served with diced onions, grated cheese, chili beans separately in any combination over spaghetti. A lot more to it, but you get the gist.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 14, 2020:

Thank you, that does sound excellent!

It's 1:00 AM here on the pacific coast, and I have had, one hour of sleep.

LovinLarge comments on Dec 6, 2020:

I accidentally deleted my comment. I had said that it soubded like you were getting a decent amount of sleep and a decent amount of exercise. I was wondering if it feels like enough? How are you feeling?

LovinLarge replies on Dec 7, 2020:

@Backslidden Wow, that is very impressive. Your efforts to look after yourself will payoff for years to come!

U.S. To Proceed With Executions Before the Transition to set Precedent

rainmanjr comments on Dec 6, 2020:

It's what I expect from him and the voters seem to demand capital punishment so that's also not unusual. If I were King our ideas for justice and incarceration would be entirely different but I'm not. Punishment was carried out for political points, yes, but in line with the sentence.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 6, 2020:

@barjoe By the way Joe, thanks for posting that article. It's an important one and I would have missed it if you hadn't. Sorry to shit all over your thread but five peoples' lives were important enough to me to do so.

It's 1:00 AM here on the pacific coast, and I have had, one hour of sleep.

TheGreatShadow comments on Dec 6, 2020:

I've been up for 2 or 3 days. A few weeks ago I got less than 10 hrs of sleep in an entire WEEK!

LovinLarge replies on Dec 6, 2020:

@TheGreatShadow I'm sorry. What are you going to do about it?

It's 1:00 AM here on the pacific coast, and I have had, one hour of sleep.

TheGreatShadow comments on Dec 6, 2020:

I've been up for 2 or 3 days. A few weeks ago I got less than 10 hrs of sleep in an entire WEEK!

LovinLarge replies on Dec 6, 2020:

Why so little sleep?

Just because a person is agnostic doesn't mean that they have to believe in evolution and the same ...

LovinLarge comments on Dec 5, 2020:

This is the same member who says "nothing can ever be proven".

LovinLarge replies on Dec 6, 2020:

@waitingforgodo False. You were given an ass whooping then, too. "Can agnosticism be expanded to include all knowledge because nothing can ever be proven?"

U.S. To Proceed With Executions Before the Transition to set Precedent

rainmanjr comments on Dec 6, 2020:

It's what I expect from him and the voters seem to demand capital punishment so that's also not unusual. If I were King our ideas for justice and incarceration would be entirely different but I'm not. Punishment was carried out for political points, yes, but in line with the sentence.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 6, 2020:

@rainmanjr. The article is not about the legality of the death penalty. It is about a new aspect of the incivility of this administration unprecedented in modern history.

U.S. To Proceed With Executions Before the Transition to set Precedent

rainmanjr comments on Dec 6, 2020:

It's what I expect from him and the voters seem to demand capital punishment so that's also not unusual. If I were King our ideas for justice and incarceration would be entirely different but I'm not. Punishment was carried out for political points, yes, but in line with the sentence.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 6, 2020:

@rainmanjr Neither the article nor the post were talking about the law, they both spoke of the incivilty of this administration. It's the hypocrisy of the SCOTUS nomination all over again.

U.S. To Proceed With Executions Before the Transition to set Precedent

rainmanjr comments on Dec 6, 2020:

It's what I expect from him and the voters seem to demand capital punishment so that's also not unusual. If I were King our ideas for justice and incarceration would be entirely different but I'm not. Punishment was carried out for political points, yes, but in line with the sentence.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 6, 2020:

@rainmanjr Not according to any outgoing Republican president in over a century.

U.S. To Proceed With Executions Before the Transition to set Precedent

rainmanjr comments on Dec 6, 2020:

It's what I expect from him and the voters seem to demand capital punishment so that's also not unusual. If I were King our ideas for justice and incarceration would be entirely different but I'm not. Punishment was carried out for political points, yes, but in line with the sentence.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 6, 2020:

"In a normal presidency that followed the traditional norms of civility, you wouldn't see executions during a transition period." It's right there in the article.

Just because a person is agnostic doesn't mean that they have to believe in evolution and the same ...

LovinLarge comments on Dec 5, 2020:

This is the same member who says "nothing can ever be proven".

LovinLarge replies on Dec 5, 2020:

@anglophone And many other things, I expect.

Has anyone on here ever "written off" a family member?

LovinLarge comments on Dec 4, 2020:

I don't know exactly how you feel but pretty close. My son is a 37 year old criminal drug addict with no redeeming qualities. I haven't seen him in years and don't care to, although he contacts me from time to time and it always ends up in a fight because according to him his problems are all my ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 4, 2020:

@DaisyMaeNot You will find the path that works for you, I can only tell you how I have made my peace in "losing" my only child. After doing everything possible to help him but him only getting worse, I realized that there was no sense in us both going down the tubes. So I made a new life without him. Eventually I stopped worrying about him and even thinking about him and redirected that energy into looking after myself. As a result, he can't depress me anymore.

Are Twitter and Facebook's new "Hate Speech" rules fair?

LovinLarge comments on Dec 3, 2020:

Ah, the putrid stench of irrational conservative fear in the crisp winter breeze.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 4, 2020:

@VeronicaAnn And her racist profile is allowed to stand on this website while its administrator complains about other platforms taking responsible actions on racism.

Are Twitter and Facebook's new "Hate Speech" rules fair?

PadraicM comments on Dec 3, 2020:

Freedom of speech, in the USA, is only guaranteed from the government. Individuals don't have to give that leeway to others. And one thing we know about corporations from FEC v. Citizens United is that corporations are people too, able to enjoy the rights afforded to all people.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 4, 2020:

@Dyl1983 I also do that. Too often. But I was actually asking about your take on the subject. Sorry if it came off harsh. This is a weird thread.

Are Twitter and Facebook's new "Hate Speech" rules fair?

Thirst2learn comments on Dec 3, 2020:

Everyone avoided directly answering your question, the answer is of course if a white guy called black people all the things these black people called white people, it would be construed as racist. They can spin the narrative all they want, but im the only one that answered your question.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 3, 2020:

@Thirst2learn You have zero credibility here, troll.

Are Twitter and Facebook's new "Hate Speech" rules fair?

Thirst2learn comments on Dec 3, 2020:

Everyone avoided directly answering your question, the answer is of course if a white guy called black people all the things these black people called white people, it would be construed as racist. They can spin the narrative all they want, but im the only one that answered your question.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 3, 2020:

He asked two questions and you didn't answer either of them, Einstein. By definition, there can't be racism against the dominant race.

Are Twitter and Facebook's new "Hate Speech" rules fair?

PadraicM comments on Dec 3, 2020:

Freedom of speech, in the USA, is only guaranteed from the government. Individuals don't have to give that leeway to others. And one thing we know about corporations from FEC v. Citizens United is that corporations are people too, able to enjoy the rights afforded to all people.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 3, 2020:

@Dyl1983 PadraicM is talking about the US Constitution. What are you talking about?

Are Twitter and Facebook's new "Hate Speech" rules fair?

xenoview comments on Dec 3, 2020:

Hate speech needs to be banned from social media and forums. I believe in freedom of speech as long as it isn't hate filled.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 3, 2020:

@Admin If FB truly says that, why won't you indicate where so we can view it in context?

Wow, what is up with the MAGAZINE on the left side of my page?

Wangobango3 comments on Dec 3, 2020:

Agnostic Magazine Write Article By Fernapple POST_REVIEW, SEP 28, 2020 FINDING A PLANET WITHOUT LOSING IT Making a life, and a walk with Rose. By Fernapple POST_REVIEW, SEP 20, 2020 A VERY SHORT HISTORY. Changing the mind of God. By KJThomas THE CELEBRANTS OF WOLF NIGHT Why Religion?...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 3, 2020:

Mine is at the top of the page and you have to click it for the articles to show up. That's admin's magazine where he's gotten members to write articles for free and he peddles his conservative disinformation.

Are Twitter and Facebook's new "Hate Speech" rules fair?

xenoview comments on Dec 3, 2020:

Hate speech needs to be banned from social media and forums. I believe in freedom of speech as long as it isn't hate filled.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 3, 2020:

@Admin Citation please.

I grew up in the 70's. This one hits home somehow. [m.youtube.com]

whiskywoman comments on Dec 3, 2020:

https://youtu.be/P0rf3_viTxk

LovinLarge replies on Dec 3, 2020:

Thanks, that's a good one, too.

Just made contact with a friend, godbotherer, I haven't seen in a few years.

resserts comments on Dec 3, 2020:

It's not just you. A few years ago, I was talking with a friend from Alabama and the topic of slavery came up (in the context of the display of the confederate flag and all of that), and she started telling me that the Civil War wasn't about slavery, that slavery wasn't a bad thing, that it was ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 3, 2020:

@TimeOutForMe Imagine the psyche of someone willing to throw the whole country under the bus for his sole personal gain. I'm not sure there is anything he won't stoop to and that is profoundly troubling.

Just made contact with a friend, godbotherer, I haven't seen in a few years.

resserts comments on Dec 3, 2020:

It's not just you. A few years ago, I was talking with a friend from Alabama and the topic of slavery came up (in the context of the display of the confederate flag and all of that), and she started telling me that the Civil War wasn't about slavery, that slavery wasn't a bad thing, that it was ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 3, 2020:

@TimeOutForMe Yes, I think that's right. https://washington.org/visit-dc/guide-to-smithsonian-national-museum-african-american-history-culture

Just made contact with a friend, godbotherer, I haven't seen in a few years.

resserts comments on Dec 3, 2020:

It's not just you. A few years ago, I was talking with a friend from Alabama and the topic of slavery came up (in the context of the display of the confederate flag and all of that), and she started telling me that the Civil War wasn't about slavery, that slavery wasn't a bad thing, that it was ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 3, 2020:

@TimeOutForMe I would like to see the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture that opened in DC in 2016. Actually I would like everyone to see it.

Just made contact with a friend, godbotherer, I haven't seen in a few years.

Emerald comments on Dec 2, 2020:

I just left the hospital. I was seeing patients in an ER so full that I would have to go find them in the lobby, grab any spare space to do my history and physical exam, and then put them back in the lobby while the hospital tries to find them a bed. I was literally having to make people with IVs ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 2, 2020:

I can hardly wait until the vaccine is available to all you heroes.

New housekeeper from a new agency today.

Gwendolyn2018 comments on Dec 2, 2020:

She might have assumed that you were a Christian and because of that, you would cut her some slack. I needed to have my porch roof replaced and a couple of years ago, called a local siding/awning company. The salesman came, give me an exorbitant bid, and explained to me how the owner of the ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 2, 2020:

Good call. I would not have done business with them either. Yesterday my Assistant who was here when the housekeeper was here told me that he thinks she slacked off on the job because I shut her down on religion. I would not have done anything differently. It was shut down the subject or shut down the delusion.

Response to "I'm praying for you"

LovinLarge comments on Dec 1, 2020:

I have appropriate anger and any ego I have was earned. I respect your right to make the decisions that are appropriate for you. I ignore all aspects of delusional thinking so as not to encourage it unless it is someone I care about enough to discuss the issue. I don't see how you make the jump ...

LovinLarge replies on Dec 1, 2020:

@Sarabobeara138 If religion were a benign phenomenon, I would agree with you but it's not. In the larger scheme of things perpetuating religious delusions has much greater potential for negative effects than accepting a role in replacing religiosity with truth.

Response to "I'm praying for you"

jlynn37 comments on Dec 1, 2020:

Depends on the context. If they are praying to save my soul I will respond with "I will write a letter to Santa for you". If they are just wishing me well I will say "thank you".

LovinLarge replies on Dec 1, 2020:

Thank you, I believe I just may adopt that Santa approach in some circumstances just to see the reactions!

Definition of conservatism

barjoe comments on Dec 1, 2020:

It's what conservatism had become. Basically bigotry and hatred. Bad things. True conservatism is frugality with government debt, spending and a strong military. Not necessarily bad things.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 1, 2020:

In theory only, in terms of national debt and deficits. Republican presidents have added more to the national debt and deficits. The USA is not the world police. Defend from within. True conservatism is, always has been and always will be about fear. All conservative positions posit an us vs. them scenario. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2017/11/22/at-yale-we-conducted-an-experiment-to-turn-conservatives-into-liberals-the-results-say-a-lot-about-our-political-divisions/

New housekeeper from a new agency today.

Joanne comments on Dec 1, 2020:

Perhaps a good reply would be to say "Oh, okay...then you might want to avoid the closet in the guest bedroom (or whichever room) because that's where my altar to Satan is located."

LovinLarge replies on Dec 1, 2020:

A great reply! She would have flown out the door. When I told her my Assistant was coming at noon, she said she wasn't really comfortable with that. She was just weird in every respect. We are all weird in some way, but rarely every way.

New housekeeper from a new agency today.

nicestuff comments on Dec 1, 2020:

I might have replied to her: And I have a mole on my belly, a little higher than my belly button.

LovinLarge replies on Dec 1, 2020:

What I really wanted to say was "no you don't" because I don't appreciate being lied to. I shouldn't have had to control what I said because it shouldn't have been said in the first place. Thanks tor the chuckle though.

The poor conservatives are complaining that they are being abused on agnostic!.

barjoe comments on Nov 30, 2020:

Lurking around in the Conservative group? I have some jackass keeps calling me a commie. I got pretty nasty back. I'm cool with alternate viewpoints but I'd rather not fight with people.

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

@barjoe You were not as mean to him as he was to you. He posts a lot of disinformation. I don't think anyone pays much attention to him anymore.

The poor conservatives are complaining that they are being abused on agnostic!.

barjoe comments on Nov 30, 2020:

Lurking around in the Conservative group? I have some jackass keeps calling me a commie. I got pretty nasty back. I'm cool with alternate viewpoints but I'd rather not fight with people.

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

What that troll means by "commie" is "shame on you for caring about other people".

The poor conservatives are complaining that they are being abused on agnostic!.

Theresa_N comments on Nov 30, 2020:

It's good when fascists feel persecuted but beware the admin is one of them.

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

Thank you!

The poor conservatives are complaining that they are being abused on agnostic!.

BitFlipper comments on Nov 30, 2020:

I've been blocked by the conservatives too. They really are fragile.

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

They're fragile because they're incredibly WEAK!

New housekeeper from a new agency today.

Jolanta comments on Nov 30, 2020:

If you can clean up after her, why on all earth do you have anyone coming around to do it?

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

I sure have appreciated all the ideas and support, but I am not going to answer judgmental comments. It really isn't appropriate for someone who doesn't know my circumstances to second guess my judgment.

New housekeeper from a new agency today.

tinkercreek comments on Nov 30, 2020:

I read through the other comments, and see that she brought up both religion AND politics? Flat no, and certainly a call to the agency to tell them their staff need better training for being around the clients. I am wondering if she may have seen anything in your home reflective of your atheism - ...

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

@tinkercreek You said it! One of the things the housekeeper rattled on about was how much training she'd recently done. It will be interesting to see how well-trained their next prospect is.

New housekeeper from a new agency today.

Jk1960 comments on Nov 30, 2020:

Always use the god card. Tell everyone how much of a believer your are and the you can screw up, not work, or do whatever because anyone calling you out is going against or appears to be going against god.

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

I hate even thinking about that, but it makes sense. On the upside, God stock is on the decline!

New housekeeper from a new agency today.

evergreen comments on Nov 30, 2020:

I guess her relationship is not close enough for god to help her with the cleaning ...

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

Pretty sure she is overestimating the strength of their relationship because she also spoke about a number of personal problems and for a supposed onmipotent being he is just not pulling his weight!

New housekeeper from a new agency today.

oldFloyd comments on Nov 30, 2020:

I guess one good thing could be you found out about it on day one 🤔 instead of put on a show for about a month or two and then slack off completely, after all gezus will pick up the slack. 😉

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

Excellent point, thank you. In the final analysis, I don't believe she could do the job so why prolong it. On the upside, I just spoke with the agency. They said they will look for someone else right away. When they didn't respond specifically to my comment that one of the reasons the job didn't get done was because the housekeeper spent so much time talking about personal things like religion, I asked the lady directly for the company policy and she said the housekeepers were specifically instructed not to talk about such things. I feel somewhat better now.

DiaperDon: Former Apprentice Staffer Noel Casler Reveals All - YouTube

rainmanjr comments on Nov 28, 2020:

Incontinence is a physical problem and doesn't affect me but I also do not diagnose anyone from appearances. Is this guy even telling the truth? He had something to do with a Reality TV show so I don't take his word for anything. I didn't vote for Agent Goldfinger in either election and don't ...

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

@redbai I have supported my position with evidence, you have not. You have mocked a medical condition while complaining about others doing the same. You have railed against racism while committing ableism. You have lied while accusing me of lying. You have admitted your shortcomings but refused to do anything about them. You have abused the concept of racism by using it to distract ftom your practice of ableism. There is something very wrong with you. You are someone I would not engage inn real time and your time is up here, too. Blocked.

DiaperDon: Former Apprentice Staffer Noel Casler Reveals All - YouTube

rainmanjr comments on Nov 28, 2020:

Incontinence is a physical problem and doesn't affect me but I also do not diagnose anyone from appearances. Is this guy even telling the truth? He had something to do with a Reality TV show so I don't take his word for anything. I didn't vote for Agent Goldfinger in either election and don't ...

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

@redbai The link discusses the causes of bowel incontinence and none of them are based on personal choice. Now you've not only lied about the causes, you're intentionally misrepresenting the evidence. From what I've seen of you, you are one of the worst if not the worst person I have encountered on this website. You will be afforded no credibility by anyone who reads this thread.

I would like some opinions! (And these are examples of why some women are disdainful of some men .

Garf comments on Nov 28, 2020:

This is my two bob's worth, I noticed you said you wanted to be friends only, and met with a guy at the park, and you knew he wanted more than just being friends. Then I noticed you had him at your house more than once. If you knew he was interested in more than being friends, why did you invite ...

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

@Gwendolyn2018, @Paul4747 This is making sense to me now. The first thing Leelu did when "she" came to this site was criticize the Feminist Atheists group and I thought it was odd out of the blue like that. The group isn't very active so "she" can't really criticize feminists there, so "she" does it in the gereral feed. Many thanks to both of you for clueing me in. It still catches me by surprise when people are intentionally deceptive!

New housekeeper from a new agency today.

bobwjr comments on Nov 30, 2020:

Time for a new one

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

A new housekeeper, definitely. How the agency responds will determine whether it's time to move on from there, too.

New housekeeper from a new agency today.

Canndue comments on Nov 30, 2020:

She talks to ghosts...should have been your first red flag

LovinLarge replies on Nov 30, 2020:

I suppose I can't say for certain that me shutting down religion as a topic of conversation wasn't related to the poor job she did but I'm prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt since I won't be dealing with her again.