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What if you do not like your choices for president?
11Novelist comments on Nov 14, 2017:
Voting for a non-candidate needs to be an option here. That's what I did. I recently saw a meme that indicated voting for the "lesser evil" just re-enforces evil as a legitimate option. Gradually the amount of acceptable evil continues to increase and we wind up with a situation where good is so far...
Marine replies on Nov 15, 2017:
I hope your thinking is valid.We have been trying to get a third party for some time now but it does not seem to appeal to enough people to be a force.
Doubt
JHeyoka comments on Nov 14, 2017:
If a chemist tells me that two elements i've never seen, combine to do a thing i don't care about, ill believe him, because i'm not part of that world, it doesn't affect me, and if one day it should, i will remember such claims with a grain of salt, knowing i must discover for myself if i am to be ...
Marine replies on Nov 15, 2017:
Be careful , only the science methods produce truth.
Doubt
wordywalt comments on Nov 14, 2017:
Dark matter has not specifically identified, but much evidence points to its existence. Further, its existence is based on data-based reasoning. The existence of a god is based on superstition, blind faith, and elaborate mythology without any evidence.
Marine replies on Nov 15, 2017:
So right
Doubt
silvereyes comments on Nov 14, 2017:
Brings to mind a statement from Seth MacFarlane- "Stay away from the church. In the battle over science vs. religion, science offers credible evidence for all the serious claims it makes. The church says, “Oh, it’s right here in this book, see? The one written by people who thought the sun ...
Marine replies on Nov 15, 2017:
Very well stated .Thanks.
Doubt
ThomasMeador comments on Nov 15, 2017:
There are hypothesis put forward in science that might be able to explain natural observed phenomena. The difference is that these are ideas of how the natural world might work, without superstition. A scientists belief in dark matter is his belief that it will be proved when tested. Religion / ...
Marine replies on Nov 15, 2017:
Thanks
Doubt
RunnerMiler424 comments on Nov 15, 2017:
Hi, If I am interpreting the believer's argument correctly, then it sounds like god of the gaps argument. "We don't understand dark matter and alternate universes, therefore God". There are plenty of gaps that have been filled in by our current knowledge that once were used to justify the ...
Marine replies on Nov 15, 2017:
Thank you your response was very well said.
What if you were put in a position to either accept a position, government,religion or die and you ...
Rragnaar comments on Nov 13, 2017:
I would retain my beliefs and fix the thing that needed me to convert. I would get paid to do what they said and try to corrupt them from within. It's slightly unethical but then so is religion
Marine replies on Nov 13, 2017:
I also like living so I would pretemd to accept and then work for there destruction.
Engage or Ignore Trump Supporters?
Specman comments on Oct 29, 2017:
First let me say I am a "born again skeptic" which is a term coined by my friend Asa Tibbs who died recently. I don't believe in gods, crosses, idols, aliens(maybe), witches etc. However, I voted for Trump because I am sick of the career politicians that are in office to line their own pockets, ...
Marine replies on Nov 13, 2017:
You must not be in your right mind. Please see a doctor as soon as possible before you hurt yourself.
What created this me first generation?
twshield comments on Nov 12, 2017:
The Kardashians.......lol
Marine replies on Nov 13, 2017:
Also many like them.
What created this me first generation?
silvereyes comments on Nov 12, 2017:
Well, I wouldn't say we're going backwards. Maybe in some respects, but you have to give the young people some credit in certain regards...but, I see your point. The cause? Maybe media, social media, cultural emphasis on individuality (as opposed to other cultures who value the collective ...
Marine replies on Nov 13, 2017:
I am a trained and both state and federal background checked firearms owner who enjoys shooting a great deal. I do not support the NRA as their position on guns is plain dumb However i know of people who vote one cause issue's like gun control , abortion,taxes etc. There are many of these individuals who do not look for the greater good or policies of the candidate rather just one issue that serves their purpose. These individuals skew the voting which prevents some good candidates from being elected. I do not know how we can correct this problem and wish I did.
What created this me first generation?
Zster comments on Nov 12, 2017:
It's not one generation as folks of all ages (around where I am, anyway) seem to be polarizing and refusing to give. I figure it's the result of diminishing education and increasing malleability by the media, convincing large numbers that all is a black/white, us/them situation. The truth, I hope, ...
Marine replies on Nov 13, 2017:
In some parts of our country they are still fighting the civil war. Education in other parts has taken a back seat to the evangelical movements. Parents have become helicopter parents and prevent their children from becoming street smart and learning how to become individuals who realize they need to work to attain something. Too much time is spent on electronics verses socializing which develops character building and compromise. Everything is organize for these children, There are no pick-up games or investigations by these children on their own. They to protected. They need to be warned and trained about the hazards so they can protect themselves. Life is not easy and they need to learn this while they are young and how to deal with it. These children do not respect each other or their elders as a whole. They lack the ability to work with others because they are not given the opportunity to develop these traits. Except for those children lucky enough to be good in sports or wealthy enough they do not learn to work in groups.All of these things are character building and work towards making a better society.;
What created this me first generation?
Decieven comments on Nov 12, 2017:
It's a shame they are stuck in such gridlock & staunch support of their political parties. Those that want to do good are drowned out by the majority who are too busy playing the game. Lets hope this serves as an example of how we don't want things to go in the future (so long as things aren't too ...
Marine replies on Nov 13, 2017:
I wish that was the case however, the damage trump has caused will require years to fix and it is partly due to these individuals that this damage has occurred..
Young people and voting
TheRealist1333 comments on Nov 12, 2017:
Because the young have been indoctrinated into the hopelessness the education system gave them and watch mainstream propaganda. Consider yourselves lucky Hillary isn't president. Trump is a genius, he knows how to spark a great debate. He gets people talking and thinking about politics. I'm a ...
Marine replies on Nov 13, 2017:
I am sorry for you if you think trump is is a genius! He is a greedy,bully, ignorant,egotist who cares only about his wealth and nothing else. The destruction he has caused to the USA will take years to correct.
Young people and voting
mt49er comments on Nov 10, 2017:
I decided prior to being eligible to vote that I didn't want to participate in the joke that is my country. It is setup to fail. A new system s the only way I'd consider participating.
Marine replies on Nov 12, 2017:
Those who do nothing are the non-voters who then complain the most about the administrations that have the power to legislate laws that offend them. Voting needs to be made easier. The day of national voting should be a holiday and a tax deduction of some sort would enhance voting. We should do everything to get all of those eligible to vote to vote.
I would like to know what position atheists take on the prolife movement.
iHuman comments on Nov 11, 2017:
If and only if the collective all encompassing "we" did a great job with regards to supporting life in each and every stage, e.g. birth control, prenatal care, childcare, healthcare, education, elderly care, poverty... then I would probably be prolife only because of the options available for the ...
Marine replies on Nov 12, 2017:
If the pregnancy goes to term the father should be held accountable especially in welfare cases.He has a moral obligation to support that child. Too many fathers just sow their oats and do not stick around to support what they have created leaving society to support the child in welfare.
Young people and voting
wordywalt comments on Nov 10, 2017:
Saying that they do not believe in the power of their vote is a simple and immoral cop-out. They are simply unengaged and don't give damn about anything beyond their immediate urges, wishes, pleasures and existence. Simply put, they don't give a damn and are unwilling to commit the energy, effort,...
Marine replies on Nov 12, 2017:
I realize this is a me first society but that is all the more reason these people should be developing a political position.This would provide them with the power to put in place their views.
Young people and voting
GwenC comments on Nov 10, 2017:
We as a country so not do a very good job teaching young people about civics, how it works, why it matters, etc and why voting is an important part of being a citizen. We then turn them loose with no idea what to do, how things happening in someplace far away will impact them, and just expect them ...
Marine replies on Nov 12, 2017:
The lack of civics classes and giving them awareness of what men died to attain does not make them commit to voting which is a shame.
Young people and voting
mt49er comments on Nov 10, 2017:
I decided prior to being eligible to vote that I didn't want to participate in the joke that is my country. It is setup to fail. A new system s the only way I'd consider participating.
Marine replies on Nov 11, 2017:
What are you doing to develop this new system ?
Socrates once quoted: Those who consider themselves to smart to take part in government will find ...
TheRealist1333 comments on Nov 10, 2017:
I fully agree with all of this, seems to me like it is an inevitable problem of this crony capitalism system. I would be worried about a real revolution though as the police force are psychos, the corrupted are surrounded by bodyguards and have places to hide from the nukes and bombs. They have all ...
Marine replies on Nov 11, 2017:
We are the land of many weapons myself included,my fear is this milieu of militias that have formed May be the ones who respond with violence. The disparity of wealth is becoming greater due to this massive greed of the wealthy..
Socrates once quoted: Those who consider themselves to smart to take part in government will find ...
MsOliver comments on Nov 10, 2017:
Sorry, I can't seem to form a rational reply while distracted by the lack of punctuation and the failure to master the difference between the words "to" and "too." Maybe later when I consume enough alcohol to quit reading posts like I read the papers I have to grade. :)
Marine replies on Nov 11, 2017:
Thanks will do.
Socrates once quoted: Those who consider themselves to smart to take part in government will find ...
SamL comments on Nov 10, 2017:
So what is needed is candidates who are smart politically and are skilled in diplomacy to replace the dismal occupants currently in power. Now, who could those candidates be? The strong middle class won't be happening if this tax reform bill goes through. If it does, most certainly there should ...
Marine replies on Nov 11, 2017:
It is unfortunate that more young people do not become involved in politics earlier.. I did later in life because I did not believe in myself early on but that was a mistake. I now believe that the young have new idiots that should be introduced into our politics as soon as possible. In addition, i find that there aren't many schools that offer a degree in diplomacy and there needs to be more emphasis on this type of learning. .
Young people and voting
SamL comments on Nov 10, 2017:
Well, as demonstrated in the last election, you can win the popular vote but it's the electoral college that ultimately chooses the winner prompting an outcry for a change to dissolve the electoral college and make the popular vote the decider of the winner. Plus, for years now it's a popular ...
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
It is amazing that some school districts have eliminated civics as a class in high school.This has been true mostly in the south where they also wish to teach creationism and eliminate evolution in high school classes.
Young people and voting
Betty comments on Nov 10, 2017:
From what I understand, many believe that voting changes nothing, different people same problems. It is amazing how many in generation x believe that the government is so corrupt and cater to lobbyists and special interest groups that voting is a waste of time.
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
That is why we need to change how voting districts are established.A district should not be dominated by any party and only total votes should govern!
Young people and voting
silvereyes comments on Nov 10, 2017:
The electoral college. Popular vote alone won't necessarily win the election. If you live in a state as red as mine, the Presidential vote goes to the Republican regardless. I voted anyway, because of the state proposals... but didn't feel my vote counted on the President. If I lived in a swing...
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
That's why we need another program to develop voting districts that are not controlled by a party. This way total votes made have a better chance of being counted.
Young people and voting
goatgirl comments on Nov 10, 2017:
A joke? Really? Little fu*kers! Perhaps Americans have grown lazy and apathetic. Perhaps some young Americans are spoiled and petulant. Well good luck kids in the future when all of these policies put in by their "joke" president take effect and have a chance to work their magic.
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
I so agree.
Since we are in favor of equality should we not have an equal number of women in our government as ...
tsjames comments on Nov 9, 2017:
I think you want to aim for equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome. The latter, in many cases, should arise naturally from the former. (But not for the case of NFL linebackers, I daresay.)
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
Women just think differently and their influence would change our laws greatly.
Since we are in favor of equality should we not have an equal number of women in our government as ...
BD66 comments on Nov 9, 2017:
Men are bigger, stronger, and and faster than women. That's why you see so few women in the NFL. The fact that you see more men than women in politics probably reflects positively on women and negatively on men.
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
I guess you have not had a chance to view our strong men in the Congress. Some of them could not walk out of a wet paper bag. In addition one need not be physically strong to be mentally superior
Since we are in favor of equality should we not have an equal number of women in our government as ...
Betty comments on Nov 10, 2017:
I would rather see the best person for the job. There is a lot of corruption in governments and women can play the game as well as men, although it shouldn't be a game as it affects the lives of their constituents. As for other career opportunities that require strength and stamina standards should ...
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
Women think differently than men. Perhaps it does not need to be equal but there should be more women. I am in organizations than have equal numbers of men and women and it is unbelievable the way the women think verses the men. They recognize different things in the same arena than men do. I believe our laws would be greatly different if there were more women in our government.
Does anyone believe that it would be better to join an alliance with another country who does not ...
Squirrellglider comments on Nov 9, 2017:
I think that rather than have alliances with other countries that simply by having interdependent trade relationships would be enough to inhibit most tendencies to go to war.
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
It is very difficult for democratic nations to accept Communism as an equal form of government. During the 2nd.world war we had ARM and Hammer still trading with the Nazies. Corporations seem to go for profit rather than political choice. Tensions especially with nukes should make us consider alternatives that we might not other wise consider.
Since we are in favor of equality should we not have an equal number of women in our government as ...
ErichZannIII comments on Nov 9, 2017:
It would only make a difference if there were an equal number of Republicans and Democrats. If you've noticed, female Republicans are more likely to not believe in contraception and abortion as well. It's not a matter of male or female, but liberal or conservative.
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
I would disagree only because women think differently than men. I am in associations where we we have women on the committee and it is amazing the different views they express regarding the same venue.
Since we are in favor of equality should we not have an equal number of women in our government as ...
MichaelSpinler comments on Nov 9, 2017:
i want to to see more women everywhere. lol especially on this site.
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
Right on!
Since we are in favor of equality should we not have an equal number of women in our government as ...
ThomasMeador comments on Nov 9, 2017:
More women in government would probably be good. But we aren't talking about real equality here. Women and men will never be equal. My dick will always be bigger than theirs, and their tits will always be bigger than mine. I kinda like it that way. What we are talking about is equal opportunity.
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
Thanks I would agree with you on this matter.
Since we are in favor of equality should we not have an equal number of women in our government as ...
ThomasMeador comments on Nov 9, 2017:
More women in government would probably be good. But we aren't talking about real equality here. Women and men will never be equal. My dick will always be bigger than theirs, and their tits will always be bigger than mine. I kinda like it that way. What we are talking about is equal opportunity.
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
Your vulgar reply is part of the problem I find that people who can not express themselves without vulgar language normally do not have much to say once you eliminate the vulgar language.
Since we are in favor of equality should we not have an equal number of women in our government as ...
silvereyes comments on Nov 9, 2017:
Well... I would love to see more women in government. Half even! However, I wouldn't put them there just for the sake of filling a female quota. They need to be qualified to do the job. Don't get me wrong, some women are plenty qualified- but we need more to be qualified to fill those openings....
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
We currently have more women graduating from college and I would surmise we have many qualified to take a position in office. It does not need to be 50/50 but I believe because women think differently than men that we need more women in government.
Since we are in favor of equality should we not have an equal number of women in our government as ...
Squirrellglider comments on Nov 9, 2017:
Unfortunately SteveB is right. There are too many females that don't support their own, unfortunately.
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
This is a situation I do not understand. I am confused as to why they would take this stand
Since we are in favor of equality should we not have an equal number of women in our government as ...
Hellbent comments on Nov 9, 2017:
I'm sorry, but I think quotas like this are foolish and offensive to the category of person that theoretically needs to be coddled by them.
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
It has nothing to do with one being coddled. Women think differently and since they are a opposite part of society they should be represented as such. No we do not need to have X # of blacks,whites , Spanish etc the two sexes are enough.It would appear that you might have some innate problem with equality among the sexes!
Since we are in favor of equality should we not have an equal number of women in our government as ...
SteveB comments on Nov 9, 2017:
That would seem fair. There are several in the electorate that will not elect a woman into any office. Some of them are also women. I was a bit surprised by that, but it is true. I think having more women in office has the potential to create more equality, but then I think Devos, Palin, ...
Marine replies on Nov 10, 2017:
i believe it would change our laws .Many countries have it in their constitution that there must be equal # of men and women in there government and I think it would be a good thing for the USA.
Does anyone believe that it would be better to join an alliance with another country who does not ...
byromaniac comments on Nov 9, 2017:
Why have countries at all? It divides people, and worse, it gives harbor to centralized power which seems to me always ends up getting used to exploit the masses for the benefit of the few,
Marine replies on Nov 9, 2017:
WE need countries to provide organization for a society. We need government whether we like it or not. Who would or be capable of building infastructure,roads etc.
Does anyone believe that it would be better to join an alliance with another country who does not ...
MichaelSpinler comments on Nov 9, 2017:
anything that keeps us talking to each other is preffered, when you isolate people they think we are so different we need to war over silly things.
Marine replies on Nov 9, 2017:
So true. I was just looking @ China because we have borrowed so much money and have so much trade that it seems better to be allied with them. In addition it would put Russia on the spot
I just saw Jane Goodall ( Not sure of spelling) sign speaking with her gorilla and some chimps and ...
AstralSmoke comments on Nov 9, 2017:
Rule of nature? Evolution has decided what type of food a species needs to survive. Carnivores eat meat, herbivores eat plants, omnivores eat anything. Physically we are designed to eat (almost) anything. Digestion is another topic. I eat meat. Not an large amount, but I eat it. Some people say I ...
Marine replies on Nov 9, 2017:
As I replied to another with our technology we can develop a protein that would provide for our needs and not require killing. In addition cattle are polluting our planet and requiring to much space and water. The planet can support only so many people and it is time to recognize this fact and take measures to prevent wars that would result from a lack of food.
I just saw Jane Goodall ( Not sure of spelling) sign speaking with her gorilla and some chimps and ...
Squirrellglider comments on Nov 9, 2017:
The rule of nature is that carnivores naturally prey on smaller and weaker carnivores and any and all herbivores that they can. Humans being omnivores, ie. part carnivore, part herbivore obey the dictates of carnivores for the most part. However the invention of agriculture and hence civilisation ...
Marine replies on Nov 9, 2017:
It would be nice with our technology if we could develop a protein that did not require killing to meet our needs.It is a fact that cattle are adding to the pollution on our planet plus using a great amount of land and water to support their needs. With the population growing we are going to run out of resources.This will lead to wars and more death. The planet must wake up andrealize it can support only so many people.
I just saw Jane Goodall ( Not sure of spelling) sign speaking with her gorilla and some chimps and ...
SamL comments on Nov 9, 2017:
That is a very real dilemma we face. Meat eaters love their meat and refuse to be vegetarians. Many people are in denial that animals have feelings and can think. In the wild the animals that are killed for food are the old and weak. New Zealand passed landmark legislation recognizing that all ...
Marine replies on Nov 9, 2017:
It would be nice if our government would do the same. I believe with our technology we could develop a protein to serve as our food.We have a number of animals in our family some would be considered for meat by members of our society however, each of our pets do display a great deal of affection and provides a large amount of enjoyment.I feel that any animal given some consideration would do the same.
I just saw Jane Goodall ( Not sure of spelling) sign speaking with her gorilla and some chimps and ...
silvereyes comments on Nov 8, 2017:
We are the greatest predator. No other creature can plan and think ahead like we can. It is because of our brain's frontal lobe. It allows for complex thought and guides many of our social behaviors. Only my personal belief here-- but It is because we have this power over other living ...
Marine replies on Nov 9, 2017:
Thanks for your reply as I agree with everything you have said. I just do not understand our desire to kill for pleasure.War seems even more rediculas that we can not sit down and come to a solution that is agreeable to both parties.
I just saw Jane Goodall ( Not sure of spelling) sign speaking with her gorilla and some chimps and ...
Colorado88 comments on Nov 8, 2017:
I think that the true way to be human is to have a reverence for life, for ALL life! I understand that we can kill for food but we don't have to. I am perplexed why we derive so much pleasure from killing other living things. I try to avoid killing as often as possible. I take spiders outside and I ...
Marine replies on Nov 9, 2017:
I totally agree with you. I do not understand with our knowledge why we still presue death as a pleasure.
I just saw Jane Goodall ( Not sure of spelling) sign speaking with her gorilla and some chimps and ...
wordywalt comments on Nov 8, 2017:
All animals (and some plants) kill other organisms for food and, when necessary, to protect one's self, family, and/or group. Killing another organism of any kind for no essential reason is destructive.
Marine replies on Nov 9, 2017:
My concern is that it is innate that we kill whether for food or just for fun! It is obvious we must eat to survive but I am having more and more difficulty justifying eating animals knowing that they have feelings and emotions like I do.
Teddy Roosevelt Stated that the public places should be kept and provided for so that future ...
SamL comments on Nov 8, 2017:
I agree it is alarming. Something has to be done to right these obvious wrongs. The republicans and their leader seem to not care and there seems to be a majority with the general population who are okay with it.
Marine replies on Nov 8, 2017:
I do not believe there is a majority that supports the adm position but at the present time we are not able to prevent this rape of the environment
Teddy Roosevelt Stated that the public places should be kept and provided for so that future ...
snytiger6 comments on Nov 8, 2017:
I often have to turn the news off, because the things Trump does is so depressing. I told people back in 2016, that Trump was not in it for anyone but himself. When he got the nomination, I said, if elected, he would only use the office to enrich himself, his family and his friends. When he ...
Marine replies on Nov 8, 2017:
Let hope that all that agree will do their part to correct the situation
Teddy Roosevelt Stated that the public places should be kept and provided for so that future ...
JackPedigo comments on Nov 8, 2017:
The biggest problem is that too many don't understand the connection between 'public' and the government. There is a case going on right now in Las Vegas about some extremists who took over a public land in Oregon. The leader constantly says he was helping to get public lands away from the ...
Marine replies on Nov 8, 2017:
I hope there are bmany more like you. Thanks
How can I debate anyone regarding god when they always fall back to you must have faith?
Beelzebub comments on Nov 5, 2017:
Religious people use the word 'faith' to describe some vague and wonderful attribute which you must develop if you want to go to heaven, but in reality it just means "stop asking questions and believe whatever we tell you". The quickest way to get kicked out of a church is to ask questions, because ...
Marine replies on Nov 7, 2017:
Your statements are so true. They fear death as this is all there is. They use faith as a means to extend life. They do not realize how religion has become another business ie the mega churches where the preacher has earned millions of dollars to afford planes and plush homes all in the name of god.
How can I debate anyone regarding god when they always fall back to you must have faith?
Life-eats-life comments on Nov 6, 2017:
Without religion, Sapiens wouldn't exist. Let people have their religions. They need them. Don't take away a survival tool. We need all we've got. Don't debate them. They need it. Look at the evolution of Sapiens. Every culture needed two things to survive, no matter where they were on earth. They ...
Marine replies on Nov 7, 2017:
The problem is that they are using their power base at this time to impose their belief system upon everyone. Devos and her policies in education are damaging and are not supported by the Constitution. in fact they are opposed by the separation of church and state. The evangelicals are working to ban contraceptives, abortion plus they are trying to put religious studies into school cirriculums again violating church /state . If they did not follow the premise that they are required to convert everyone to their way of thinking there would be no problem.I am not against individuals finding comfort by whatever means however I will not let them force their believe system upon me.
Are America's problems too big for government to effectively solve?
snytiger6 comments on Nov 5, 2017:
No. We just need to get the greedy fingers of the rich out of government and stop their interference. FDR did that, and we experience the greatest prosperity and growth in our history. (It is notable that the rich were being taxed at a top rate of 91% during that growth, so don't buy into the ...
Marine replies on Nov 6, 2017:
I really like your thinking and agree . However it appears that our current parties are so corrupt that we need to do away with them. I am being a dreamer as it will never happen.Thanks
I would like to know what position atheists take on the prolife movement.
Ravenwolfcasey comments on Nov 6, 2017:
I am pro-life personally but agree people should have the right to their own body's..I am however against the fact the majority of abortions done are due to unwanted pregnancy and basically abortions are birth control for woman who obviously enjoy sex without safety..I do not think a woman should be...
Marine replies on Nov 6, 2017:
You are so right. Just look at trump being elected! Abortion is not a form of birth control and any women using it as such are very stupid . However in the event of rape, incest, or the accidental pregnancy a woman should have the choice. The problem is evangelicals want to even prevent contraception or sex classes being taught in school which have reduced teen pregnancy's. To take a life is a serious decision but better than having a diseased child or one which would not be taken care of .
I am accused of having no morals because I am an atheist.
VictoriaNotes comments on Nov 4, 2017:
Their accusations and prejudices likely have less to do with thinking atheists lack morals and more to do with believers' mortality. "Two studies were conducted to establish that existential concerns contribute to anti-atheist sentiments. Experiment 1 found that a subtle reminder of death ...
Marine replies on Nov 5, 2017:
The whole basis for religion revolves around life after death. Individuals just do not like to think that life is all there is. Thanks for your comments
I am accused of having no morals because I am an atheist.
silvereyes comments on Nov 4, 2017:
I've been accused of that too. This is irritates me completely and utterly. Sorry, I don't base my actions on an old book that has no evidence of being anything other than Fiction. I might as well base my moral code off of Harry Potter. I think it's popular enough, right? Pffffttttt......
Marine replies on Nov 5, 2017:
Nice reply. Thanks for your comment.
I am accused of having no morals because I am an atheist.
wordywalt comments on Nov 4, 2017:
Real morality has nothing to do with religion, but solely on the consequences of decisions and actions.
Marine replies on Nov 5, 2017:
This is so true yet people do not seem to be able to recognize this fact.Thanks for your comment.
I am accused of having no morals because I am an atheist.
Hugene2002 comments on Nov 4, 2017:
It's the opposite. I tend to find that atheists have better morals than the religious as they tend to judge and pity others less. They take action rather than relying on meaningless statements like quoting the buybull or saying 'I'll pray for you'. Atheists actually think about what it means to be ...
Marine replies on Nov 5, 2017:
It is a true shame that those who supported trump are going to receive the shaft with regard to what he is proposing. It is the programs that they should be protecting that he is attacking and they do nmot seem to recognize this fact! Thanks for your comment.
I am accused of having no morals because I am an atheist.
MarcO comments on Nov 4, 2017:
Well, you can base your morals on philosophers of ethics, choosing which moral theory fits you better (personally, I'm prefer deontologism over consequentialism for most things, but use the second for things the first cannot give an answer to). You can read about Kant, John Stuart Mills for ...
Marine replies on Nov 5, 2017:
Very well stated.Thanks
I would like to know what position atheists take on the prolife movement.
MichaelSpinler comments on Nov 5, 2017:
my only stipulation to this is time, it should be done as early as plausible. unless there is a danger to the women, or birth defects are present. this is a medical topic, and government should not be a part of making these choices.nor should a man have any say, unless he is the father and not a...
Marine replies on Nov 5, 2017:
Very reasonable. Thanks
I would like to know what position atheists take on the prolife movement.
Kevlock01 comments on Nov 5, 2017:
As a man, I will never have to make this decision, I may request the opportunity to be involved in this decision, but ultimately it's not my call. No woman ever woke up after a rough night, and said to herself, "I hope I'm pregnant, Because I cant wait to have an abortion." Yes the "state" may hold...
Marine replies on Nov 5, 2017:
Unfortunately men dominate the law making arena.
I am accused of having no morals because I am an atheist.
tsjames comments on Nov 5, 2017:
In addition to the good comments that others have already given, there are, in addition to strong philosophical foundations for how to lead a 'good' life, a burgeoning scientific output indicating that people seem to have intrinsic, built in notions of what is fair and not fair. The results are ...
Marine replies on Nov 5, 2017:
Thanks ,i guess that is my conscience.
I am accused of having no morals because I am an atheist.
flora comments on Nov 4, 2017:
morals and religion are 2 different animals. MY definition of morals is to treat your fellow human with kindness, compassion and empathy. In doing that you harm no one. Religion is out the window on the discussion of morals in my world.
Marine replies on Nov 5, 2017:
I agree Thanks
I am accused of having no morals because I am an atheist.
Paul4747 comments on Nov 4, 2017:
I've encountered too many alleged "Christians" and "Muslims" (and seen many more in public life) who claim that their religion gives them a superior morality, but commit what I consider immoral acts daily. Most often, religion is used as an excuse for immoral actions against the out-group that ...
Marine replies on Nov 5, 2017:
You said exactly what I feel in much better words. Thanks
I am accused of having no morals because I am an atheist.
strgazr63 comments on Nov 4, 2017:
I consider myself a better "Christian" (even though I am non-theist) than many "Christians" in my life. I am a transplant in the Deep South so it is difficult for me. If we need to fear eternal damnation in order to be "good" then we have bigger problems. I try to be good because I actually believe...
Marine replies on Nov 5, 2017:
Thanks
I am accused of having no morals because I am an atheist.
MichaelSpinler comments on Nov 4, 2017:
theist are told this by their church, they demonize atheist, and other religions. why we have to lead by example. is far as a refuting with a person directly stating this to you god believers doing things based on a gods punishment or reward, is not morality, its extortion. as far as the ...
Marine replies on Nov 5, 2017:
Thanks
I am accused of having no morals because I am an atheist.
snytiger6 comments on Nov 4, 2017:
Religious persons are taught they can commit all kinds of sins, but if they confess, then they can think of themselves as good persons. So they sin over and over again, knowing they can confess and then feel good about themselves. Atheists, in order to feel good about themselves, generally don't...
Marine replies on Nov 4, 2017:
Very well said. I never thought of it in this manner and will do so in the future.
How can I debate anyone regarding god when they always fall back to you must have faith?
zanyfish comments on Nov 3, 2017:
Tell them that you have faith too ... faith that life began on earth as a result of some simple chemical processes, even though you can't prove it :) But there are other things that can be proved. If they believe everything in the bible, then they would say that the earth is 6,000 years old and ...
Marine replies on Nov 4, 2017:
They ignore logic,and science.
How can I debate anyone regarding god when they always fall back to you must have faith?
silvereyes comments on Nov 2, 2017:
If a person is too stuck on their point of view that they aren't willing to listen: it's a waste of your effort. That's what I've learned over the years. They aren't really listening- they won't change their mind, because they don't want to. Now, if it was a public forum (and had purpose other ...
Marine replies on Nov 3, 2017:
I HAVE USED THIS TACTIC AND IT RESULTS IN A LOST FRIEND MOST OF THE TIME
How can I debate anyone regarding god when they always fall back to you must have faith?
AngelaPadovani comments on Nov 3, 2017:
Can you argue against faith? To me faith implies you are going to accept something without any evidence if necessary. How can you argue (apply logic) to that? Argument implies logic applied to demonstrable fact - you can't argue with these people
Marine replies on Nov 3, 2017:
SO TRUE
How can I debate anyone regarding god when they always fall back to you must have faith?
BelleAmora comments on Nov 3, 2017:
Tell them you can walk on water....if they ask you to prove it, tell them they must have faith :-P
Marine replies on Nov 3, 2017:
GREAT REPLY
How can I debate anyone regarding god when they always fall back to you must have faith?
ZenBear comments on Nov 2, 2017:
I ask them, “Why is faith a good thing?” The first time I ever asked this it went well. The man I was talking to admitted that he only values faith because people tell him to. Most people say because the bible says so. I press the point that faith is bad epistemology. You can justify any belief ...
Marine replies on Nov 3, 2017:
THANK YOU THIS SEEMS TO BE A VERY GOOD METHOD OF STARTING THE CONVERSATION.
How can I debate anyone regarding god when they always fall back to you must have faith?
Paul628 comments on Nov 2, 2017:
At that point, you're never going to get any rational thought through to them so cut your losses and walk away.
Marine replies on Nov 3, 2017:
USUALLY JUST WHAT HAPPENS.
How can I debate anyone regarding god when they always fall back to you must have faith?
VictoriaNotes comments on Nov 2, 2017:
That's a rather common comeback, but they're never comfortable when you counter them with "who created your god?" Their comeback. "He just was." How do you know this? "The Bible says so." OK. :D Time to move on.
Marine replies on Nov 3, 2017:
I OFTEN ASK HOW THE WORDS OF THE BIBLE WERE PASSED ALONG IN THEIR DAY. THE REPLY IS BY WORD OF MOUTH.I THEN SUGGEST THEY PLAY THE GAME WHERE YOU WHISPER SOMETHING TO THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU AND THEY PASS IT ALONG AND YOU SEE HOW IT CHANGES WITH JUST A FEW PEOPLE.I POINT OUT THAT TELLING A STORY OVER YEARS CHANGES THE STORY UNTIL WRITING COMES IN.REGARDLESS THEY ARE MYTHS AT BEST AND IN NO MANNER PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF A GOD.
How can I debate anyone regarding god when they always fall back to you must have faith?
MarcO comments on Nov 2, 2017:
Faith is not something that can be debated; you can debate facts, not irrational beliefs. The only way I've found to make people question their belief is to find contradictions in their own beliefs, within its own inner coherence; anything form outside of the faith, like science and logic, will be ...
Marine replies on Nov 3, 2017:
i WAS cATHOLIC AND WAS PLACED IN THE COAT ROOM FOR ASKING QUESTIONS THE PRIEST COULD NOT ANSWER. THE FRIST 8 YEARS OF SCHOOL WERE TRYING AT BEST.
How can I debate anyone regarding god when they always fall back to you must have faith?
MichaelSpinler comments on Nov 2, 2017:
start off unpacking the word faith, get rid of the holes they hide in, so they have no where to run. leave them with the only outlet will be i will pray for you, or you are gona see when you die. lmao
Marine replies on Nov 3, 2017:
tHANKS BUT THEY ALWAYS GO BACK.
I have long held the position that religion has prevented the evolution of people by the limits they...
MichaelSpinler comments on Oct 31, 2017:
while i agree with the premise, i would have phrased it as has held back advancement. evolution is a biologic issue, that religion has no control over if not for some religious control and wars in the past, we may have gone to the moon 1000 years sooner. if the greeks had not been over run, how...
Marine replies on Nov 1, 2017:
I stand corrected however the catholic church has hindered science for years as have some other churches.Today they stand in the way of medical accomplishments as I mentioned. It would appear that religion appeals to many because they do not wish to die and say there is nothing else after death
I would like to know what position atheists take on the prolife movement.
Squirrellglider comments on Oct 31, 2017:
I have to come down on the side of a woman's right to choose. I don't see that a fetus, especially one that is not yet independently viable has any so called rights yet.
Marine replies on Nov 1, 2017:
I agree. The decision always should rest with the woman who usually gets stuck raising the child without help. Rape and incest there should not be any question!
I would consider myself to be very liberal when it comes to viewing government.
SamL comments on Oct 31, 2017:
Some of those people actually choose to live that way. I agree though it would be a positive thing to offer to homeless people the choice to work on a farm as I understand growing things can be very therapeutic.
Marine replies on Nov 1, 2017:
It was a very good program. It gave them shelter,food and medical attention plus they were clean and healthy. The farm helped many mentally as they worked by themselves many with animals which helped a lot.They were paid a very small salary. Many alcoholics and drug users were saved. Many were 2nd world war vets. Our government does not provide well for those who gave so much .Some did not come to the farm but many many did.
I would consider myself to be very liberal when it comes to viewing government.
gearl comments on Oct 31, 2017:
I don't recognize the history of what you are talking about. Could you give us a link or explain.
Marine replies on Nov 1, 2017:
I lived in Ohio and they had established farms during the WPA era to house people who were homeless and otherwise living on the street. They paid a very small salary to those who worked the farms which supplied their food needs plus shelter and medical attention. Many were 2nd world war vets returning from war and then as now our government did not do well with these vets and other homeless.It was a good program but Dems thought that it demeaned the residents and the program was scraped after running for some 25 years.As a result we now see people living under bridges etc.
I would consider myself to be very liberal when it comes to viewing government.
MichaelSpinler comments on Oct 31, 2017:
while i agree with most everything you stated. i dont agree we had a liberal gov. they call temselves liberal, but are the neocons owned by the 1% posing as liberals, to offer up some sort of false choice. yes i am a sanders and green supporter. who as far as i know would never back such ugly ...
Marine replies on Nov 1, 2017:
As a vet I agree completely, we treat those who have given so much very poorly.Just go to any vet hospital and just look at the facility; they are a disgrace! I am not sure about the quality of the medical staff also! The 1% are so greed absorbed they treat anyone who is not in their status as trash to be used to benefit their welfare.
I would consider myself to be very liberal when it comes to viewing government.
silvereyes comments on Oct 31, 2017:
I follow the sentiment about giving the homeless jobs and taking care of them... but the farms weren't the best option. Here is some great info about why they were stopped: https://www.cga.ct.gov/2008/rpt/2008-R-0081.htm
Marine replies on Nov 1, 2017:
You misunderstood what I was referring to. These farms were set up for the homeless people;they were given a home,food and medical attention and a small income for working the farm. Many had mental problems .At that time many had returned from the 2nd world war and i am sure they suffered just like those returning from the current wars.It had nothing to do with prisoners.
I would like to know what position atheists take on the prolife movement.
Hellbent comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I don't like the terms "pro life" or "pro choice": they are both tendentious propaganda slogans. I would prefer it if people who disapproved of abortion were, in general, also those who disapproved of the death penalty - but they're not. I would prefer it if those who approve of abortion were, in ...
Marine replies on Oct 31, 2017:
GOOD POINT I HAD NEVER THOUGHT OF IT IN THAT MANNER BUT IT MAKES GREAT SENSE.
I would like to know what position atheists take on the prolife movement.
snytiger6 comments on Oct 30, 2017:
I take the position that the life o fthe woman is paramount and the potential life she may be carrying is secondary. It is less risky to the woman's life for her to have an abortion than it is for her to carry to term. Therefor it is th ewoman's right to choose to take on that risk or not. The ...
Marine replies on Oct 31, 2017:
I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS THE REPUBLICANS SUPPORT PRO LIFE UNTIL THE CHILD IS BORN THEN THEY FORGET ABOUT THE CHILD UNTIL HE CAN VOTE OR SHOOT1THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT.
Just saw an interview of of two people who were in a church when a tornado removed the building.
Mightyjustice comments on Oct 20, 2017:
More to the point, where why was there a tornado in the first place? Why did anything have to be destroyed? Does God throw tornadoes out there just to prove that he can spare some people? Just so we know who his chosen ones are?
Marine replies on Oct 21, 2017:
As with guns,other weather events,illness,death!
Just saw an interview of of two people who were in a church when a tornado removed the building.
VictoriaNotes comments on Oct 20, 2017:
It's incredibly egocentric and insensitive. They just don't see it.
Marine replies on Oct 21, 2017:
Yep and they hate it worse if you point it out.
Just saw an interview of of two people who were in a church when a tornado removed the building.
Paul628 comments on Oct 20, 2017:
They do it with any disaster or tragedy. "Our thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families". What a pile... My guess is the second after that is said they are no longer thinking of them anymore. Do these prayer senders actually go home and (in private) pray for those people?...
Marine replies on Oct 21, 2017:
I actually know some that do. I also know some very religious people who know how to avoid taxes, cheat at cards and if they do the latter one can imagine what else they do.
Just saw an interview of of two people who were in a church when a tornado removed the building.
Joanne comments on Oct 20, 2017:
I find it rather arrogant for people to think that their god granted them a favor, saved their life etc. while simultaneously ignoring the pleas and prayers of millions--to include children who are being abused, are starving, are dying of cancer--and the list goes on.
Marine replies on Oct 21, 2017:
Very well said.
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