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Who amongst us is the most keen to spread the agnostic message?
ToolGuy comments on Oct 2, 2019:
Irrelevant. Keep it out of my government and education and believe what you want. Not interested in proselytizing atheism or agnosticism.
Mcflewster replies on Oct 2, 2019:
We keep it under the covers then ?
ToolGuy comments on Oct 2, 2019:
Irrelevant. Keep it out of my government and education and believe what you want. Not interested in proselytizing atheism or agnosticism.
Mcflewster replies on Oct 2, 2019:
We keep it under the covers then ?
Who amongst us is the most keen to spread the agnostic message?
creative51 comments on Oct 2, 2019:
If you have not noticed, there is a very wide range of views of agnostic - atheistism. So there is no "message" other than follow your open inquiring mind.
Mcflewster replies on Oct 2, 2019:
There has to/could be a core message. i.e. other than 'open mind' as many christians would say they have an open inquiring mind.
creative51 comments on Oct 2, 2019:
If you have not noticed, there is a very wide range of views of agnostic - atheistism. So there is no "message" other than follow your open inquiring mind.
Mcflewster replies on Oct 2, 2019:
There has to/could be a core message. i.e. other than 'open mind' as many christians would say they have an open inquiring mind.
Better news this lunchtime for jobs in Northern Ireland after last week’s announcement of the ...
Mcflewster comments on Oct 2, 2019:
But is Boris' latest plan good for either or both parts of Ireland?
Mcflewster replies on Oct 2, 2019:
@Marionville DUP seem happy??
Mcflewster comments on Oct 2, 2019:
But is Boris' latest plan good for either or both parts of Ireland?
Mcflewster replies on Oct 2, 2019:
@Marionville DUP seem happy??
Who amongst us is the most keen to spread the agnostic message?
MakeItGood comments on Oct 2, 2019:
Everybody is default agnostic. Even devout religious people say "I believe, but I dont know." Lmao. I go "Same here - but I also don't believe."
See? Everyone's already agnostic, but we guess-pick a side.
So no proselytizing required.
Mcflewster replies on Oct 2, 2019:
Do you not mean "Everyone is born an agnostic"?. There are some religious people who are half way towards us.
MakeItGood comments on Oct 2, 2019:
Everybody is default agnostic. Even devout religious people say "I believe, but I dont know." Lmao. I go "Same here - but I also don't believe."
See? Everyone's already agnostic, but we guess-pick a side.
So no proselytizing required.
Mcflewster replies on Oct 2, 2019:
Do you not mean "Everyone is born an agnostic"?. There are some religious people who are half way towards us.
Who amongst us is the most keen to spread the agnostic message?
RiverRick comments on Oct 2, 2019:
Keen to spread the message? What are you, Christian?
Mcflewster replies on Oct 2, 2019:
That is a good question but I am at leasts agnostic as you are. If we are to eliminate religion we need to steal some of the best techniques FROM the religions. After all proselytising is only the same as salesmanship.
RiverRick comments on Oct 2, 2019:
Keen to spread the message? What are you, Christian?
Mcflewster replies on Oct 2, 2019:
That is a good question but I am at leasts agnostic as you are. If we are to eliminate religion we need to steal some of the best techniques FROM the religions. After all proselytising is only the same as salesmanship.
Who amongst us is the most keen to spread the agnostic message?
Dancing comments on Oct 2, 2019:
Not it.
Mcflewster replies on Oct 2, 2019:
I accept that not everybody likes competition but this is just for fun.
Dancing comments on Oct 2, 2019:
Not it.
Mcflewster replies on Oct 2, 2019:
I accept that not everybody likes competition but this is just for fun.
In the past I have often hypothesized that religion, with its emphasis on unquestioned belief and ...
Mcflewster comments on Sep 28, 2019:
Absolutely yes. You seem to speak my language .........SCIENCE.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 29, 2019:
Please see my Science teacher group on this site. You do not have to be a teacher.
Mcflewster comments on Sep 28, 2019:
Absolutely yes. You seem to speak my language .........SCIENCE.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 29, 2019:
Please see my Science teacher group on this site. You do not have to be a teacher.
The Prorogation of Parliament by Boris Johnson was unlawful.
StarvingArtist comments on Sep 24, 2019:
I’ve read a bit about this situation and have wondered if your government can bring about another vote on leaving or staying in the EU. Since it is now known there were strong outside influences pushing false information to leave the EU?
Mcflewster replies on Sep 25, 2019:
Really, really hope so.
StarvingArtist comments on Sep 24, 2019:
I’ve read a bit about this situation and have wondered if your government can bring about another vote on leaving or staying in the EU. Since it is now known there were strong outside influences pushing false information to leave the EU?
Mcflewster replies on Sep 25, 2019:
Really, really hope so.
So Labour are saying they will reduce the working week to 32 hours!
Ok, nice idea, but how will ...
Marionville comments on Sep 23, 2019:
Ludicrous ideas from a party that are still split down the middle on nearly everything....I think they are making themselves unelectable, just at the time they should be able to wipe the floor with the hated Tories! Corbyn is not popular with the wider electorate and I believe it was disastrous to...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 23, 2019:
So you don't believe in broad church parties? Presumably Corbyn thinks he can handle such a thing as long as no-one does anything stupid.
Marionville comments on Sep 23, 2019:
Ludicrous ideas from a party that are still split down the middle on nearly everything....I think they are making themselves unelectable, just at the time they should be able to wipe the floor with the hated Tories! Corbyn is not popular with the wider electorate and I believe it was disastrous to...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 23, 2019:
So you don't believe in broad church parties? Presumably Corbyn thinks he can handle such a thing as long as no-one does anything stupid.
I am considering asking Admin to change, on the introductory list of topics within posts the wording...
Heraclitus comments on Sep 22, 2019:
The heading is Academic (e.g., Science). "e.g." stands for the Latin exempli gratia and means “for example.” So, it is simply giving Science as an example of something that could be considered academic, not an equivalence. Now, I suppose you could have a separate category of Science, but then...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 23, 2019:
I did foresee that problem. So glad I took latin at school instead of woodwork.
Heraclitus comments on Sep 22, 2019:
The heading is Academic (e.g., Science). "e.g." stands for the Latin exempli gratia and means “for example.” So, it is simply giving Science as an example of something that could be considered academic, not an equivalence. Now, I suppose you could have a separate category of Science, but then...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 23, 2019:
I did foresee that problem. So glad I took latin at school instead of woodwork.
I am considering asking Admin to change, on the introductory list of topics within posts the wording...
Robecology comments on Sep 22, 2019:
IMO, as a retired science teacher (of 45 years), It's not a bad thing to push its' classification as "academic"...
I think it implies that scientific posts are information and/or knowledge-based, and/or fact-based comments.
I would hope that more science posts would include a link to back ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 22, 2019:
But science is not about knowledge itself . I have to admit it produces knowledge , but is about the means of producing knowledge and we have to concentrate here at least in not putting anyone off from engaging. There are plenty of science results books, posts , TV and film sources of the products of science. Sorry to be pedantic.
Robecology comments on Sep 22, 2019:
IMO, as a retired science teacher (of 45 years), It's not a bad thing to push its' classification as "academic"...
I think it implies that scientific posts are information and/or knowledge-based, and/or fact-based comments.
I would hope that more science posts would include a link to back ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 22, 2019:
But science is not about knowledge itself . I have to admit it produces knowledge , but is about the means of producing knowledge and we have to concentrate here at least in not putting anyone off from engaging. There are plenty of science results books, posts , TV and film sources of the products of science. Sorry to be pedantic.
If only we all aimed to GROW ideas....[agnostic.com]
St-Sinner comments on Sep 17, 2019:
GEEZ.... A very difficult language. Could he not have put it simply?
"A liberal welcomes all opinions, robust discussions and aims at solving problems. Disagreements are ok because that is part of the deliberations."
Mcflewster replies on Sep 18, 2019:
@HankSherman Does my comment above go anyway to a translation?
St-Sinner comments on Sep 17, 2019:
GEEZ.... A very difficult language. Could he not have put it simply?
"A liberal welcomes all opinions, robust discussions and aims at solving problems. Disagreements are ok because that is part of the deliberations."
Mcflewster replies on Sep 18, 2019:
@HankSherman Does my comment above go anyway to a translation?
If only we all aimed to GROW ideas....[agnostic.com]
St-Sinner comments on Sep 17, 2019:
GEEZ.... A very difficult language. Could he not have put it simply?
"A liberal welcomes all opinions, robust discussions and aims at solving problems. Disagreements are ok because that is part of the deliberations."
Mcflewster replies on Sep 18, 2019:
Scientists in general have to learn a new language of description that will actually help people to love science rather than hate it.
St-Sinner comments on Sep 17, 2019:
GEEZ.... A very difficult language. Could he not have put it simply?
"A liberal welcomes all opinions, robust discussions and aims at solving problems. Disagreements are ok because that is part of the deliberations."
Mcflewster replies on Sep 18, 2019:
Scientists in general have to learn a new language of description that will actually help people to love science rather than hate it.
I think that people make up their minds about serious problems like Brexit far too quickly.
NicoleCadmium comments on Sep 14, 2019:
I think we go wrong when we tell people who are uneducated on such matters that they have an obligation to go out and vote one way or the other. Of course everyone (of voting age, and not currently in prison) is entitled to vote, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they should, if they don't ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 14, 2019:
@Jalnor This post highlights the difficulty - not unexpected - of trying to get people to accept and know how science can benefit everyone on earth personally especially about how to make decisions. Science education should alter direction with the aim of getting everyone not only to use science but personally benefit from it in their everyday life
NicoleCadmium comments on Sep 14, 2019:
I think we go wrong when we tell people who are uneducated on such matters that they have an obligation to go out and vote one way or the other. Of course everyone (of voting age, and not currently in prison) is entitled to vote, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they should, if they don't ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 14, 2019:
@Jalnor This post highlights the difficulty - not unexpected - of trying to get people to accept and know how science can benefit everyone on earth personally especially about how to make decisions. Science education should alter direction with the aim of getting everyone not only to use science but personally benefit from it in their everyday life
I think that people make up their minds about serious problems like Brexit far too quickly.
NicoleCadmium comments on Sep 14, 2019:
I think we go wrong when we tell people who are uneducated on such matters that they have an obligation to go out and vote one way or the other. Of course everyone (of voting age, and not currently in prison) is entitled to vote, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they should, if they don't ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 14, 2019:
@Hebert54 they should make some agreed mark to admit that the decision is beyond them i.e. to show they have co-operated . At least they are honest. It might be a way of dealing with popularism . I agree it could be thought of as patronising so please don't judge my intellect until my suggestion works.
NicoleCadmium comments on Sep 14, 2019:
I think we go wrong when we tell people who are uneducated on such matters that they have an obligation to go out and vote one way or the other. Of course everyone (of voting age, and not currently in prison) is entitled to vote, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they should, if they don't ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 14, 2019:
@Hebert54 they should make some agreed mark to admit that the decision is beyond them i.e. to show they have co-operated . At least they are honest. It might be a way of dealing with popularism . I agree it could be thought of as patronising so please don't judge my intellect until my suggestion works.
This is a statement of hope that gives me great inspiration.
brentan comments on Sep 14, 2019:
I'm not a philosopher and I don't know. I only know what to try out myself. I like the poet William Blake's imaginative take on Christianity and find it very useful.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 14, 2019:
intriguing.more detail please
brentan comments on Sep 14, 2019:
I'm not a philosopher and I don't know. I only know what to try out myself. I like the poet William Blake's imaginative take on Christianity and find it very useful.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 14, 2019:
intriguing.more detail please
I think that people make up their minds about serious problems like Brexit far too quickly.
NicoleCadmium comments on Sep 14, 2019:
I think we go wrong when we tell people who are uneducated on such matters that they have an obligation to go out and vote one way or the other. Of course everyone (of voting age, and not currently in prison) is entitled to vote, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they should, if they don't ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 14, 2019:
Should we persuade them to abstain after admitting they do not want to do any research?
NicoleCadmium comments on Sep 14, 2019:
I think we go wrong when we tell people who are uneducated on such matters that they have an obligation to go out and vote one way or the other. Of course everyone (of voting age, and not currently in prison) is entitled to vote, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they should, if they don't ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 14, 2019:
Should we persuade them to abstain after admitting they do not want to do any research?
It is quite simple.
MattHardy comments on Sep 7, 2019:
I would have to disagree with the first four words. "it's quite simple"
In the immortal words of Dr Ben Goldacre "I Think You’ll Find It’s a Bit More Complicated Than That"
One key part you missed out was when "Call me Dave" uttered those famous words "Why should I do all the Hard Shit"
The ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 8, 2019:
@MattHardy GOOD! Then you make a change in your hypothesis for change. Science is a revolving set of processes which you keep spinning until things do get better for everyone. What is your suggestion for a better hypothesis?
MattHardy comments on Sep 7, 2019:
I would have to disagree with the first four words. "it's quite simple"
In the immortal words of Dr Ben Goldacre "I Think You’ll Find It’s a Bit More Complicated Than That"
One key part you missed out was when "Call me Dave" uttered those famous words "Why should I do all the Hard Shit"
The ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 8, 2019:
@MattHardy GOOD! Then you make a change in your hypothesis for change. Science is a revolving set of processes which you keep spinning until things do get better for everyone. What is your suggestion for a better hypothesis?
It is quite simple.
MattHardy comments on Sep 7, 2019:
I would have to disagree with the first four words. "it's quite simple"
In the immortal words of Dr Ben Goldacre "I Think You’ll Find It’s a Bit More Complicated Than That"
One key part you missed out was when "Call me Dave" uttered those famous words "Why should I do all the Hard Shit"
The ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 7, 2019:
OK it was my attempt to get it past those words without admitting your point. People are often put off by those first few words. This is not a challenge but can you make it simpler? Simplification is an inherent science principle.
MattHardy comments on Sep 7, 2019:
I would have to disagree with the first four words. "it's quite simple"
In the immortal words of Dr Ben Goldacre "I Think You’ll Find It’s a Bit More Complicated Than That"
One key part you missed out was when "Call me Dave" uttered those famous words "Why should I do all the Hard Shit"
The ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 7, 2019:
OK it was my attempt to get it past those words without admitting your point. People are often put off by those first few words. This is not a challenge but can you make it simpler? Simplification is an inherent science principle.
This looks interesting to what I am trying to do.
Heraclitus comments on Sep 7, 2019:
Yep, I huge problem with post-modern society. We used to have differences of opinion, now we have differences of fact. Without a reality consensus, how do we even approach problem-solving?
Mcflewster replies on Sep 7, 2019:
Differences of fact can be solved with using science to its best advantage. My solution is to give everyone a basic knowledge of scientific method. They will only ever trust it by using it to change something for the better in the own lives FOR and BY themselves. i.e. OWN THEIR OWN SCIENCE.
Heraclitus comments on Sep 7, 2019:
Yep, I huge problem with post-modern society. We used to have differences of opinion, now we have differences of fact. Without a reality consensus, how do we even approach problem-solving?
Mcflewster replies on Sep 7, 2019:
Differences of fact can be solved with using science to its best advantage. My solution is to give everyone a basic knowledge of scientific method. They will only ever trust it by using it to change something for the better in the own lives FOR and BY themselves. i.e. OWN THEIR OWN SCIENCE.
I am most interested in finding out if anyone came out of a test or exam and said to themselves " I ...
yvilletom comments on Sep 7, 2019:
School tests? Passing tests later in life brings enjoyment.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 7, 2019:
because then you realise that enjoyment really is an integral part of learning?
yvilletom comments on Sep 7, 2019:
School tests? Passing tests later in life brings enjoyment.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 7, 2019:
because then you realise that enjoyment really is an integral part of learning?
I am most interested in finding out if anyone came out of a test or exam and said to themselves " I ...
CuriosityExtant comments on Sep 7, 2019:
In electronics school, I used to really enjoy taking the tests for digital circuits troubleshooting. I would learn new things taking those tests and I actually started writing notes to the instructor about how cool something was on the test. He told me I was crazy!
Mcflewster replies on Sep 7, 2019:
A good anecdote
CuriosityExtant comments on Sep 7, 2019:
In electronics school, I used to really enjoy taking the tests for digital circuits troubleshooting. I would learn new things taking those tests and I actually started writing notes to the instructor about how cool something was on the test. He told me I was crazy!
Mcflewster replies on Sep 7, 2019:
A good anecdote
For those still troubled by religion.
Seeker3CO comments on Sep 5, 2019:
I will ALWAYS be troubled by religion's sway over human decision making, its power through wealth and thought and behavior control, its inherently dehumanizing effects.
FUCK religion in all its forms. I would destroy it all today if I had my druthers.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 6, 2019:
But do you think my theory holds for any particular individual outside of generalisation. I am looking for devices to confirm people in a non religious way forward in their lives.
Seeker3CO comments on Sep 5, 2019:
I will ALWAYS be troubled by religion's sway over human decision making, its power through wealth and thought and behavior control, its inherently dehumanizing effects.
FUCK religion in all its forms. I would destroy it all today if I had my druthers.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 6, 2019:
But do you think my theory holds for any particular individual outside of generalisation. I am looking for devices to confirm people in a non religious way forward in their lives.
Maybe I'm looking for the impossible.
GrnArrow comments on Jul 1, 2019:
I would suggest you step back from the deeper biological sciences for a bit. They tend to get very detailed into how small microcosms of biology work. You could learn them all and still not have a satisfactory answer. I would suggest you start taking a look into physics and cosmology. Not so much ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 6, 2019:
I agree that science understanding is not a linear and completely dependable process -dependable that is upon the amount of effort put in. Often you have to go through agonies before something clicks into place. Best aid of all is an overview of the kind of processes you are trying to understand preferably on one page or field of view. Only certain 'giants' can compile these.
GrnArrow comments on Jul 1, 2019:
I would suggest you step back from the deeper biological sciences for a bit. They tend to get very detailed into how small microcosms of biology work. You could learn them all and still not have a satisfactory answer. I would suggest you start taking a look into physics and cosmology. Not so much ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 6, 2019:
I agree that science understanding is not a linear and completely dependable process -dependable that is upon the amount of effort put in. Often you have to go through agonies before something clicks into place. Best aid of all is an overview of the kind of processes you are trying to understand preferably on one page or field of view. Only certain 'giants' can compile these.
For those still troubled by religion.
genessa comments on Sep 4, 2019:
sorry, but "if you're not... then you have obviously been through...." doesn't apply to me. i've been an atheist since age 15 and never had to defeat anything or anyone. i just realized there were no gods. it wasn't traumatic, no one had been laying religion on me and my realization had nothing ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
@genessa There is no reason at all why you should not continue as you are. Sorry if I suggested otherwise.
genessa comments on Sep 4, 2019:
sorry, but "if you're not... then you have obviously been through...." doesn't apply to me. i've been an atheist since age 15 and never had to defeat anything or anyone. i just realized there were no gods. it wasn't traumatic, no one had been laying religion on me and my realization had nothing ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
@genessa There is no reason at all why you should not continue as you are. Sorry if I suggested otherwise.
For those still troubled by religion.
genessa comments on Sep 4, 2019:
sorry, but "if you're not... then you have obviously been through...." doesn't apply to me. i've been an atheist since age 15 and never had to defeat anything or anyone. i just realized there were no gods. it wasn't traumatic, no one had been laying religion on me and my realization had nothing ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
@genessa I am glad that you have two schemes of existence and I am sure you do no harm by doing that - but if ever you WANT to decide between the two I hope that you can do that.
genessa comments on Sep 4, 2019:
sorry, but "if you're not... then you have obviously been through...." doesn't apply to me. i've been an atheist since age 15 and never had to defeat anything or anyone. i just realized there were no gods. it wasn't traumatic, no one had been laying religion on me and my realization had nothing ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
@genessa I am glad that you have two schemes of existence and I am sure you do no harm by doing that - but if ever you WANT to decide between the two I hope that you can do that.
Two points from the UK media.
Fernapple comments on Sep 4, 2019:
You can lead horses to water, but you can not make them drink. And it is almost certain that politicians see science as a threat to their power.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
Politicians CANNOT see into any future. They have been moulded to lie. Lying is just not necessary in science - it just gets replaced by better science.
Fernapple comments on Sep 4, 2019:
You can lead horses to water, but you can not make them drink. And it is almost certain that politicians see science as a threat to their power.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
Politicians CANNOT see into any future. They have been moulded to lie. Lying is just not necessary in science - it just gets replaced by better science.
Two points from the UK media.
Geoffrey51 comments on Sep 4, 2019:
The slogan is mostly attributed to Socrates as a paraphrase but who knows. It’s a convenient slogan to put into Socrates’ mouth.
It’s a truism regardless!
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
better a 'truism' than 'a bit irish'
Geoffrey51 comments on Sep 4, 2019:
The slogan is mostly attributed to Socrates as a paraphrase but who knows. It’s a convenient slogan to put into Socrates’ mouth.
It’s a truism regardless!
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
better a 'truism' than 'a bit irish'
Two points from the UK media.
Red_Cat comments on Sep 4, 2019:
It's a bit much to ask of our present government.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
`if we do not ask we do not get'
Red_Cat comments on Sep 4, 2019:
It's a bit much to ask of our present government.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
`if we do not ask we do not get'
Two points from the UK media.
Petter comments on Sep 5, 2019:
An interesting way to look at this is to imagine a small white circle of knowledge surrounded by the blackness of the unknown. The circumference of that circle indicates the amount of knowledge that we can see we do not know and which we, in our curiosity, investigate. Once we have found out these ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
Good visualisation is an ace way of changing perceptions.
Petter comments on Sep 5, 2019:
An interesting way to look at this is to imagine a small white circle of knowledge surrounded by the blackness of the unknown. The circumference of that circle indicates the amount of knowledge that we can see we do not know and which we, in our curiosity, investigate. Once we have found out these ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
Good visualisation is an ace way of changing perceptions.
For those still troubled by religion.
Joanne comments on Sep 4, 2019:
My mother was the religious leader in our family and I was taught to fear, and ignore, any science that conflicted with religious beliefs. The hardest part for me was realizing that she was wrong. However, it was also the best part for me as I no longer had to worry about good people going to hell ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
I am sad to hear this story. I have a son who has pain probably for mental health reasons- he does NOT have dementia. I have been trying to use Human inspired methods to decrease the pain e.g. relax etc. It is not easy but she is asking for Human help and I know she can get it.
Joanne comments on Sep 4, 2019:
My mother was the religious leader in our family and I was taught to fear, and ignore, any science that conflicted with religious beliefs. The hardest part for me was realizing that she was wrong. However, it was also the best part for me as I no longer had to worry about good people going to hell ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
I am sad to hear this story. I have a son who has pain probably for mental health reasons- he does NOT have dementia. I have been trying to use Human inspired methods to decrease the pain e.g. relax etc. It is not easy but she is asking for Human help and I know she can get it.
For those still troubled by religion.
TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 4, 2019:
I was raised roman catholic in a roman catholic country by very roman catholic parents.
Science and education where never discouraged. Quite the opposite. It was my parents questions about how how the universe started without god that literally made me go into science to find out what answers they ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
you are probably right over the majority of believers but even these have methods of thinking how to section off part of the brain from the science and education part of the brain when it comes to solving religious type problems.
TheMiddleWay comments on Sep 4, 2019:
I was raised roman catholic in a roman catholic country by very roman catholic parents.
Science and education where never discouraged. Quite the opposite. It was my parents questions about how how the universe started without god that literally made me go into science to find out what answers they ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
you are probably right over the majority of believers but even these have methods of thinking how to section off part of the brain from the science and education part of the brain when it comes to solving religious type problems.
For those still troubled by religion.
genessa comments on Sep 4, 2019:
sorry, but "if you're not... then you have obviously been through...." doesn't apply to me. i've been an atheist since age 15 and never had to defeat anything or anyone. i just realized there were no gods. it wasn't traumatic, no one had been laying religion on me and my realization had nothing ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
Good agnostic upbringing.
genessa comments on Sep 4, 2019:
sorry, but "if you're not... then you have obviously been through...." doesn't apply to me. i've been an atheist since age 15 and never had to defeat anything or anyone. i just realized there were no gods. it wasn't traumatic, no one had been laying religion on me and my realization had nothing ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 5, 2019:
Good agnostic upbringing.
For those still troubled by religion.
WilliamFleming comments on Sep 4, 2019:
I have somehow escaped the fear and trauma that so many people endure. I think I was skeptical from the start about the hellfire & damnation school of thought, and my parents never mentioned such stuff.
We need to understand and accommodate those who lash out at religion. If I had my way the idea...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
Lovely punch line !!
WilliamFleming comments on Sep 4, 2019:
I have somehow escaped the fear and trauma that so many people endure. I think I was skeptical from the start about the hellfire & damnation school of thought, and my parents never mentioned such stuff.
We need to understand and accommodate those who lash out at religion. If I had my way the idea...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
Lovely punch line !!
For those still troubled by religion.
silverotter11 comments on Sep 4, 2019:
The biggest trouble with religion comes from people wanting to know if I'm religious. My response is always, "God" (the parens mean if you believe in a god) had nothing to do with religion, man cooked up that scam all on his own and it has been the cause of war and human strife ever since.
As a ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
I do not want to delve into private conversations, But is your Mum still winning? You seem to have done very well so far.
silverotter11 comments on Sep 4, 2019:
The biggest trouble with religion comes from people wanting to know if I'm religious. My response is always, "God" (the parens mean if you believe in a god) had nothing to do with religion, man cooked up that scam all on his own and it has been the cause of war and human strife ever since.
As a ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
I do not want to delve into private conversations, But is your Mum still winning? You seem to have done very well so far.
For those still troubled by religion.
DenoPenno comments on Sep 4, 2019:
I'm not really troubled by religion but last night I could not sleep and somehow my mind went into the nonsense and total impossibility of Noah's Ark. I can imagine the 600 year old man going after all the animals and the many, many years that would take. How would he get a lion to go with him? My ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@DenoPenno We have to break the chains somehow.
DenoPenno comments on Sep 4, 2019:
I'm not really troubled by religion but last night I could not sleep and somehow my mind went into the nonsense and total impossibility of Noah's Ark. I can imagine the 600 year old man going after all the animals and the many, many years that would take. How would he get a lion to go with him? My ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@DenoPenno We have to break the chains somehow.
Wonder what he means by this.... [agnostic.com]
AnneWimsey comments on Sep 3, 2019:
That's a remark from the very beginning of the Scientific Age, when people were wowed by the "little beasties" they could suddenly see under that fantastic invention, the microscope. Get over it, he did !
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
BTW Perception is ALL.
AnneWimsey comments on Sep 3, 2019:
That's a remark from the very beginning of the Scientific Age, when people were wowed by the "little beasties" they could suddenly see under that fantastic invention, the microscope. Get over it, he did !
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
BTW Perception is ALL.
Wonder what he means by this.... [agnostic.com]
NoPlanetB comments on Sep 3, 2019:
IDK, could mean the more science you know the more powerful (godlike) you are.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@maturin1919 Absolutely agree.
NoPlanetB comments on Sep 3, 2019:
IDK, could mean the more science you know the more powerful (godlike) you are.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@maturin1919 Absolutely agree.
For those still troubled by religion.
DenoPenno comments on Sep 4, 2019:
I'm not really troubled by religion but last night I could not sleep and somehow my mind went into the nonsense and total impossibility of Noah's Ark. I can imagine the 600 year old man going after all the animals and the many, many years that would take. How would he get a lion to go with him? My ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
It does pay to have deliberate non dreaming reminiscences also. Thing is to have answers ready for doubters and you mother had one ready. Did it come from her or HER mother? Perhaps winning is not the right word. I don't wish to divide any family.
DenoPenno comments on Sep 4, 2019:
I'm not really troubled by religion but last night I could not sleep and somehow my mind went into the nonsense and total impossibility of Noah's Ark. I can imagine the 600 year old man going after all the animals and the many, many years that would take. How would he get a lion to go with him? My ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
It does pay to have deliberate non dreaming reminiscences also. Thing is to have answers ready for doubters and you mother had one ready. Did it come from her or HER mother? Perhaps winning is not the right word. I don't wish to divide any family.
Wonder what he means by this.... [agnostic.com]
NoPlanetB comments on Sep 3, 2019:
IDK, could mean the more science you know the more powerful (godlike) you are.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@NoPlanetB, @maturin1919 I did say that knowledge follows science but it MAY not be the answer that you expected. It is ultra important that we get the method right. Appreciating what science method is is only a start.
NoPlanetB comments on Sep 3, 2019:
IDK, could mean the more science you know the more powerful (godlike) you are.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@NoPlanetB, @maturin1919 I did say that knowledge follows science but it MAY not be the answer that you expected. It is ultra important that we get the method right. Appreciating what science method is is only a start.
Wonder what he means by this.... [agnostic.com]
NoPlanetB comments on Sep 3, 2019:
IDK, could mean the more science you know the more powerful (godlike) you are.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@NoPlanetB Agree about your claim. Thanks for your thoughts.
NoPlanetB comments on Sep 3, 2019:
IDK, could mean the more science you know the more powerful (godlike) you are.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@NoPlanetB Agree about your claim. Thanks for your thoughts.
Wonder what he means by this.... [agnostic.com]
WilliamFleming comments on Sep 3, 2019:
What he means is that as your perspective broadens the full impact of the human situation hits you full force and you are rendered agape with awe, appreciation and reverence.
If you don’t like the word “God” you can substitute some other undefinable word. No big deal.
Werner Karl ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@WilliamFleming Let us boggle together!
WilliamFleming comments on Sep 3, 2019:
What he means is that as your perspective broadens the full impact of the human situation hits you full force and you are rendered agape with awe, appreciation and reverence.
If you don’t like the word “God” you can substitute some other undefinable word. No big deal.
Werner Karl ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@WilliamFleming Let us boggle together!
Religion & science--the topsy twins of human affairs.
Mcflewster comments on Sep 3, 2019:
Please see my science teacher group on this site . You do not have to be a teacher only interested in science education. Amongst other things we start at a very basic level i.e. What IS science? Lots of people have misconceptions.
Two good start points are 1)making sure that we expand people's ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@Remiforce Only yesterday I said " I believe a duck can be made to do algebra (with enough reward)" Do you agree?
Mcflewster comments on Sep 3, 2019:
Please see my science teacher group on this site . You do not have to be a teacher only interested in science education. Amongst other things we start at a very basic level i.e. What IS science? Lots of people have misconceptions.
Two good start points are 1)making sure that we expand people's ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@Remiforce Only yesterday I said " I believe a duck can be made to do algebra (with enough reward)" Do you agree?
Religion & science--the topsy twins of human affairs.
indirect76 comments on Sep 2, 2019:
Science answers how. Religion answers why. I tend to think ‘how’ has an answer and ‘why’ does not.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@Remiforce If you mean by "real answers" the ultimate answer, have you not accepted yet that in science there isn't one. Every existing answer can be improved. It is a continual spiral but TOWARDS the truth - until YOU tell me I am going in the wrong direction.
indirect76 comments on Sep 2, 2019:
Science answers how. Religion answers why. I tend to think ‘how’ has an answer and ‘why’ does not.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
@Remiforce If you mean by "real answers" the ultimate answer, have you not accepted yet that in science there isn't one. Every existing answer can be improved. It is a continual spiral but TOWARDS the truth - until YOU tell me I am going in the wrong direction.
Wonder what he means by this.... [agnostic.com]
Dietl comments on Sep 3, 2019:
What he is trying to tell us is that he has no clue what science means.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
This could be the case but then a lot of people achieve great things without having any clue as to what their actions mean.
Dietl comments on Sep 3, 2019:
What he is trying to tell us is that he has no clue what science means.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
This could be the case but then a lot of people achieve great things without having any clue as to what their actions mean.
Wonder what he means by this.... [agnostic.com]
racocn8 comments on Sep 3, 2019:
You'd really need to see the context in which he made the statement.
Remember that it was Pasteur who demonstrated the falsity of the Spontaneous Generation doctrine which claimed that life could spring forth anywhere; an old shirt and grain could create mice. The belief in spontaneous generation...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
A very good scientific answer.
racocn8 comments on Sep 3, 2019:
You'd really need to see the context in which he made the statement.
Remember that it was Pasteur who demonstrated the falsity of the Spontaneous Generation doctrine which claimed that life could spring forth anywhere; an old shirt and grain could create mice. The belief in spontaneous generation...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
A very good scientific answer.
Wonder what he means by this.... [agnostic.com]
powder comments on Sep 3, 2019:
All anyone need know about science is the scientific method: hypothesis, observation and repeatable results.
Once this concept is accepted to claim that will bring you closer to "Him".......... Got me fucked how he reached that conclusion.
Intellect does not necessarily transfer to ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
"Intellect does not necessarily transfer to philosophical nouse". Love this phrase.
powder comments on Sep 3, 2019:
All anyone need know about science is the scientific method: hypothesis, observation and repeatable results.
Once this concept is accepted to claim that will bring you closer to "Him".......... Got me fucked how he reached that conclusion.
Intellect does not necessarily transfer to ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 4, 2019:
"Intellect does not necessarily transfer to philosophical nouse". Love this phrase.
Wonder what he means by this.... [agnostic.com]
WilliamFleming comments on Sep 3, 2019:
What he means is that as your perspective broadens the full impact of the human situation hits you full force and you are rendered agape with awe, appreciation and reverence.
If you don’t like the word “God” you can substitute some other undefinable word. No big deal.
Werner Karl ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
Like the first paragraph, don't understand the last paragraph
WilliamFleming comments on Sep 3, 2019:
What he means is that as your perspective broadens the full impact of the human situation hits you full force and you are rendered agape with awe, appreciation and reverence.
If you don’t like the word “God” you can substitute some other undefinable word. No big deal.
Werner Karl ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
Like the first paragraph, don't understand the last paragraph
Wonder what he means by this.... [agnostic.com]
AnneWimsey comments on Sep 3, 2019:
That's a remark from the very beginning of the Scientific Age, when people were wowed by the "little beasties" they could suddenly see under that fantastic invention, the microscope. Get over it, he did !
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
Good point . Our perceptions just completely changed with the invention of the microscope.
AnneWimsey comments on Sep 3, 2019:
That's a remark from the very beginning of the Scientific Age, when people were wowed by the "little beasties" they could suddenly see under that fantastic invention, the microscope. Get over it, he did !
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
Good point . Our perceptions just completely changed with the invention of the microscope.
Wonder what he means by this.... [agnostic.com]
NoPlanetB comments on Sep 3, 2019:
IDK, could mean the more science you know the more powerful (godlike) you are.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
science is not about knowledge or power, even though both are consequences that do follow. Science should be about giving ALL humans the freedom to find our check any knowledge that comes to them.
NoPlanetB comments on Sep 3, 2019:
IDK, could mean the more science you know the more powerful (godlike) you are.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
science is not about knowledge or power, even though both are consequences that do follow. Science should be about giving ALL humans the freedom to find our check any knowledge that comes to them.
Wonder what he means by this.... [agnostic.com]
slydr68 comments on Sep 3, 2019:
Perhaps he means that by studying science you can find a natural order, which is often confused for a plan, and then attributed to a creator...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
Whereas the natural oder arises from things like the structure of electrons within atoms
slydr68 comments on Sep 3, 2019:
Perhaps he means that by studying science you can find a natural order, which is often confused for a plan, and then attributed to a creator...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
Whereas the natural oder arises from things like the structure of electrons within atoms
To be ill informed is not the same as being stupid.
Marionville comments on Sep 2, 2019:
Your statement is factually true, but there is ignorance through lack of information and there is wilful ignorance which is worse than stupidity, and I believe that a number of the ultra Brexiters are guilty of this. These people have always known that we will be worse off out of the EU but are ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
@Marionville Sad for us all
Marionville comments on Sep 2, 2019:
Your statement is factually true, but there is ignorance through lack of information and there is wilful ignorance which is worse than stupidity, and I believe that a number of the ultra Brexiters are guilty of this. These people have always known that we will be worse off out of the EU but are ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
@Marionville Sad for us all
To be ill informed is not the same as being stupid.
Sofabeast comments on Sep 2, 2019:
With what has passed so far, can the UK really remain in the EU? Has too much damage been done? Was this Cameron's plan?
I feel the the UK cannot stay in the EU now, the country is too divided and Europe no longer trusts us. Indeed, the UK may be shortly a thing of the past with the Anglo-Welsh ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
@Petter interesting!
Sofabeast comments on Sep 2, 2019:
With what has passed so far, can the UK really remain in the EU? Has too much damage been done? Was this Cameron's plan?
I feel the the UK cannot stay in the EU now, the country is too divided and Europe no longer trusts us. Indeed, the UK may be shortly a thing of the past with the Anglo-Welsh ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
@Petter interesting!
Are you wasting your time being here?
Spinliesel comments on Aug 27, 2019:
"Without doubt ..... really, Herr Popper? Philosophers give me a headache.
...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
@Haemish1 equal and superior in the same passage do not fit.
Spinliesel comments on Aug 27, 2019:
"Without doubt ..... really, Herr Popper? Philosophers give me a headache.
...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
@Haemish1 equal and superior in the same passage do not fit.
To be ill informed is not the same as being stupid.
Marionville comments on Sep 2, 2019:
Your statement is factually true, but there is ignorance through lack of information and there is wilful ignorance which is worse than stupidity, and I believe that a number of the ultra Brexiters are guilty of this. These people have always known that we will be worse off out of the EU but are ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
All true , but what is your ultimate solution . Mine is Revoke article 50 and start again with new constitution, voting system and MP +MEP interactions with their constituents.
Marionville comments on Sep 2, 2019:
Your statement is factually true, but there is ignorance through lack of information and there is wilful ignorance which is worse than stupidity, and I believe that a number of the ultra Brexiters are guilty of this. These people have always known that we will be worse off out of the EU but are ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
All true , but what is your ultimate solution . Mine is Revoke article 50 and start again with new constitution, voting system and MP +MEP interactions with their constituents.
Religion & science--the topsy twins of human affairs.
BestWithoutGods comments on Sep 2, 2019:
The unschooled don't need a religious fix. They need scientific schooling. :)
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
Please see my science teacher group on this site . You do not have to be a teacher only interested in science education. Amongst other things we start at a very basic level i.e. What IS science? Lots of people have misconceptions.
BestWithoutGods comments on Sep 2, 2019:
The unschooled don't need a religious fix. They need scientific schooling. :)
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
Please see my science teacher group on this site . You do not have to be a teacher only interested in science education. Amongst other things we start at a very basic level i.e. What IS science? Lots of people have misconceptions.
Religion & science--the topsy twins of human affairs.
indirect76 comments on Sep 2, 2019:
Science answers how. Religion answers why. I tend to think ‘how’ has an answer and ‘why’ does not.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
"Science answers how. Religion answers why". This is a false statement . Even though we may NOT get an ultimate answer with science it is continually deepening the search into why.
indirect76 comments on Sep 2, 2019:
Science answers how. Religion answers why. I tend to think ‘how’ has an answer and ‘why’ does not.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
"Science answers how. Religion answers why". This is a false statement . Even though we may NOT get an ultimate answer with science it is continually deepening the search into why.
Religion & science--the topsy twins of human affairs.
gater comments on Sep 2, 2019:
My brother has a Phd - smart guy but very religious - he thinks the earth is 6000 years old - I asked him once how can you look at the Grand Canyon and see millions of years of geological evidence right in front of you and still think that? He said God made it that way - lol like God "aged" the ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
People CAN. partition their minds just as we partition computer discs.
gater comments on Sep 2, 2019:
My brother has a Phd - smart guy but very religious - he thinks the earth is 6000 years old - I asked him once how can you look at the Grand Canyon and see millions of years of geological evidence right in front of you and still think that? He said God made it that way - lol like God "aged" the ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
People CAN. partition their minds just as we partition computer discs.
To be ill informed is not the same as being stupid.
Marionville comments on Sep 2, 2019:
Your statement is factually true, but there is ignorance through lack of information and there is wilful ignorance which is worse than stupidity, and I believe that a number of the ultra Brexiters are guilty of this. These people have always known that we will be worse off out of the EU but are ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
@JackPedigo I do not care MUCH about fish [I was brought up a butcher]. but I do care very much about HUMANS and this is why I am a Humanists and am very interested in how Humans group but MORE interested in how they can change things as individuals . IMO science individually applied is the way to do this.
Marionville comments on Sep 2, 2019:
Your statement is factually true, but there is ignorance through lack of information and there is wilful ignorance which is worse than stupidity, and I believe that a number of the ultra Brexiters are guilty of this. These people have always known that we will be worse off out of the EU but are ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
@JackPedigo I do not care MUCH about fish [I was brought up a butcher]. but I do care very much about HUMANS and this is why I am a Humanists and am very interested in how Humans group but MORE interested in how they can change things as individuals . IMO science individually applied is the way to do this.
Should atheists subscribe to naturalism or even scientism?
Mcflewster comments on Sep 2, 2019:
There is no need for the ' ism ' after science. Science is what it is and what it will always be.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
@TheMiddleWay This is why I am trying to improve the public understanding of science with my science teachers group on this site and by all methods available to me. Getting people to own science individually is my aim
Mcflewster comments on Sep 2, 2019:
There is no need for the ' ism ' after science. Science is what it is and what it will always be.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 3, 2019:
@TheMiddleWay This is why I am trying to improve the public understanding of science with my science teachers group on this site and by all methods available to me. Getting people to own science individually is my aim
To be ill informed is not the same as being stupid.
Sofabeast comments on Sep 2, 2019:
With what has passed so far, can the UK really remain in the EU? Has too much damage been done? Was this Cameron's plan?
I feel the the UK cannot stay in the EU now, the country is too divided and Europe no longer trusts us. Indeed, the UK may be shortly a thing of the past with the Anglo-Welsh ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
Surely the only sensible way forward now is to revoke article 50, start work NOW on a written revised constitution ; a new way of voting including well thought out PR system and a set of rules for formulating any fresh referendum. I.E To START all over again. If the retainers do not win in the next few days it will still be Brexit , Brexit,brexit for at least 10 years.
Sofabeast comments on Sep 2, 2019:
With what has passed so far, can the UK really remain in the EU? Has too much damage been done? Was this Cameron's plan?
I feel the the UK cannot stay in the EU now, the country is too divided and Europe no longer trusts us. Indeed, the UK may be shortly a thing of the past with the Anglo-Welsh ...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
Surely the only sensible way forward now is to revoke article 50, start work NOW on a written revised constitution ; a new way of voting including well thought out PR system and a set of rules for formulating any fresh referendum. I.E To START all over again. If the retainers do not win in the next few days it will still be Brexit , Brexit,brexit for at least 10 years.
BBC - Future - Tomorrow’s Gods: What is the future of religion?
Mcflewster comments on Sep 1, 2019:
No dramatic changes except in overexcited and temporary hotspots. Religion just has to wither slowly. We can help it along but people have the right to be offered a viable alternative. How can we accelerate the offering of that alternative?
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
@Archeus_Lore See my blog oyosblog.com OWN YOUR OWN SCIENCE for my as yet feeble attempt.
Mcflewster comments on Sep 1, 2019:
No dramatic changes except in overexcited and temporary hotspots. Religion just has to wither slowly. We can help it along but people have the right to be offered a viable alternative. How can we accelerate the offering of that alternative?
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
@Archeus_Lore See my blog oyosblog.com OWN YOUR OWN SCIENCE for my as yet feeble attempt.
BBC - Future - Tomorrow’s Gods: What is the future of religion?
Mcflewster comments on Sep 1, 2019:
No dramatic changes except in overexcited and temporary hotspots. Religion just has to wither slowly. We can help it along but people have the right to be offered a viable alternative. How can we accelerate the offering of that alternative?
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
@Archeus_Lore A very good answer. If only we could factor in the use of scientific method by EVERYONE you answer would be perfect. Good luck in trying any of your answer - don't give up
Mcflewster comments on Sep 1, 2019:
No dramatic changes except in overexcited and temporary hotspots. Religion just has to wither slowly. We can help it along but people have the right to be offered a viable alternative. How can we accelerate the offering of that alternative?
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
@Archeus_Lore A very good answer. If only we could factor in the use of scientific method by EVERYONE you answer would be perfect. Good luck in trying any of your answer - don't give up
Please tell us exactly how this temporary UK government is playing dirty and who is the instigator?
Marionville comments on Aug 29, 2019:
The shadowy figure of Dominic Cummings...the chief strategist of the Leave Campaign, and now advisor to Boris, this has his signature all over it. His mantra in the referendum was, play dirty, tell whopping lies, and keep doing it! It worked, as it’s based on the “Goebbels Principle” ( tell...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
@Flettie This is true here in UK but Australia has compulsory voting. Do they know better than us?
Marionville comments on Aug 29, 2019:
The shadowy figure of Dominic Cummings...the chief strategist of the Leave Campaign, and now advisor to Boris, this has his signature all over it. His mantra in the referendum was, play dirty, tell whopping lies, and keep doing it! It worked, as it’s based on the “Goebbels Principle” ( tell...
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
@Flettie This is true here in UK but Australia has compulsory voting. Do they know better than us?
This should be in every science teaching situation.
PeacefulChaos comments on Sep 2, 2019:
I'm very glad to know others "think" the same way. I tell my students all the time that mistakes are normal. Its called practice. My atheletes understand the concept best.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
Athletes have the ability and often the opportunity to correct mistakes that are pointed out to them immediately. Space men and women explorers have to wait for the next rocket to go which is many years after the next injection of money for the space project.
PeacefulChaos comments on Sep 2, 2019:
I'm very glad to know others "think" the same way. I tell my students all the time that mistakes are normal. Its called practice. My atheletes understand the concept best.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
Athletes have the ability and often the opportunity to correct mistakes that are pointed out to them immediately. Space men and women explorers have to wait for the next rocket to go which is many years after the next injection of money for the space project.
The thing I like most about this agnostic web-site is that one can ask any question at all.
PeacefulChaos comments on Sep 2, 2019:
A very long way to go.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
A very very long way to go
PeacefulChaos comments on Sep 2, 2019:
A very long way to go.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
A very very long way to go
I am most interested in finding out if anyone came out of a test or exam and said to themselves " I ...
PeacefulChaos comments on Sep 2, 2019:
I have never said I enjoyed that but I have had a few smiles.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
'Smile' means that a bulb lit upon in your brain and you had become "enlightened.
PeacefulChaos comments on Sep 2, 2019:
I have never said I enjoyed that but I have had a few smiles.
Mcflewster replies on Sep 2, 2019:
'Smile' means that a bulb lit upon in your brain and you had become "enlightened.
Please tell us exactly how this temporary UK government is playing dirty and who is the instigator?
Jnei comments on Aug 29, 2019:
1. The UK government is not temporary as such, the current ruling party (The Conservatives) having been voted in by general election and as such are able to rule for a period of five years before they must declare a new election (though in certain circumstances, such as losing their majority in the ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 30, 2019:
@Jnei This money making point should be shouted from the rooftops. Thanks.
Jnei comments on Aug 29, 2019:
1. The UK government is not temporary as such, the current ruling party (The Conservatives) having been voted in by general election and as such are able to rule for a period of five years before they must declare a new election (though in certain circumstances, such as losing their majority in the ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 30, 2019:
@Jnei This money making point should be shouted from the rooftops. Thanks.
Please tell us exactly how this temporary UK government is playing dirty and who is the instigator?
Jnei comments on Aug 29, 2019:
1. The UK government is not temporary as such, the current ruling party (The Conservatives) having been voted in by general election and as such are able to rule for a period of five years before they must declare a new election (though in certain circumstances, such as losing their majority in the ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 29, 2019:
Should have said "Death-wish" or "Kamicarzi" or "Desperate" Government instead of Temporary.
Jnei comments on Aug 29, 2019:
1. The UK government is not temporary as such, the current ruling party (The Conservatives) having been voted in by general election and as such are able to rule for a period of five years before they must declare a new election (though in certain circumstances, such as losing their majority in the ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 29, 2019:
Should have said "Death-wish" or "Kamicarzi" or "Desperate" Government instead of Temporary.
Please tell us exactly how this temporary UK government is playing dirty and who is the instigator?
LenHazell53 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
This proroguing is a perfectly normal parliamentary procedure during Party conference season, the closing of parliament for 4 to 10 days to allow for the government to take instruction (at least in theory) from the respective party memberships.
What is NOT normal is to prorogue the queen to close...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 29, 2019:
This is like saying that it is perfectly normal to open another airway in case of blockage in the throat - you can do it every day!
LenHazell53 comments on Aug 29, 2019:
This proroguing is a perfectly normal parliamentary procedure during Party conference season, the closing of parliament for 4 to 10 days to allow for the government to take instruction (at least in theory) from the respective party memberships.
What is NOT normal is to prorogue the queen to close...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 29, 2019:
This is like saying that it is perfectly normal to open another airway in case of blockage in the throat - you can do it every day!
Please tell us exactly how this temporary UK government is playing dirty and who is the instigator?
Marionville comments on Aug 29, 2019:
The shadowy figure of Dominic Cummings...the chief strategist of the Leave Campaign, and now advisor to Boris, this has his signature all over it. His mantra in the referendum was, play dirty, tell whopping lies, and keep doing it! It worked, as it’s based on the “Goebbels Principle” ( tell...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 29, 2019:
@Red_Cat Any politician (and that is what he is trying to be by tagging on to this clown) should be open and transparent and actually invite in reporters and anyone who can seamlessly communicate with the public.
Marionville comments on Aug 29, 2019:
The shadowy figure of Dominic Cummings...the chief strategist of the Leave Campaign, and now advisor to Boris, this has his signature all over it. His mantra in the referendum was, play dirty, tell whopping lies, and keep doing it! It worked, as it’s based on the “Goebbels Principle” ( tell...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 29, 2019:
@Red_Cat Any politician (and that is what he is trying to be by tagging on to this clown) should be open and transparent and actually invite in reporters and anyone who can seamlessly communicate with the public.
Please tell us exactly how this temporary UK government is playing dirty and who is the instigator?
Marionville comments on Aug 29, 2019:
The shadowy figure of Dominic Cummings...the chief strategist of the Leave Campaign, and now advisor to Boris, this has his signature all over it. His mantra in the referendum was, play dirty, tell whopping lies, and keep doing it! It worked, as it’s based on the “Goebbels Principle” ( tell...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 29, 2019:
Let us get Cummings somehow in front of public questioning. Not easy I suspect to 'nail' him. How about a second Cumming?
Marionville comments on Aug 29, 2019:
The shadowy figure of Dominic Cummings...the chief strategist of the Leave Campaign, and now advisor to Boris, this has his signature all over it. His mantra in the referendum was, play dirty, tell whopping lies, and keep doing it! It worked, as it’s based on the “Goebbels Principle” ( tell...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 29, 2019:
Let us get Cummings somehow in front of public questioning. Not easy I suspect to 'nail' him. How about a second Cumming?
Are you wasting your time being here?
Spinliesel comments on Aug 27, 2019:
"Without doubt ..... really, Herr Popper? Philosophers give me a headache.
...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 27, 2019:
@Haemish1 Can you please explain how I dragged science into the gutter. My message was catch people who have entered the site for the first time and reaffirm our moral credentials.
Spinliesel comments on Aug 27, 2019:
"Without doubt ..... really, Herr Popper? Philosophers give me a headache.
...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 27, 2019:
@Haemish1 Can you please explain how I dragged science into the gutter. My message was catch people who have entered the site for the first time and reaffirm our moral credentials.
Are you wasting your time being here?
Spinliesel comments on Aug 27, 2019:
"Without doubt ..... really, Herr Popper? Philosophers give me a headache.
...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 27, 2019:
@Spinliesel I think engineers [and everyone else] are scientists. You have obviously been solving problems all your life. It does need science and scientists to actually get things done. I think of philosophers are 'Sounding boards'.
Spinliesel comments on Aug 27, 2019:
"Without doubt ..... really, Herr Popper? Philosophers give me a headache.
...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 27, 2019:
@Spinliesel I think engineers [and everyone else] are scientists. You have obviously been solving problems all your life. It does need science and scientists to actually get things done. I think of philosophers are 'Sounding boards'.
Are you wasting your time being here?
Spinliesel comments on Aug 27, 2019:
"Without doubt ..... really, Herr Popper? Philosophers give me a headache.
...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 27, 2019:
I agree too , but popper was more of a scientist which I support and I hope you too. How do we make science equal to philosophy ?? . It is not going to go away.
Spinliesel comments on Aug 27, 2019:
"Without doubt ..... really, Herr Popper? Philosophers give me a headache.
...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 27, 2019:
I agree too , but popper was more of a scientist which I support and I hope you too. How do we make science equal to philosophy ?? . It is not going to go away.
Are you wasting your time being here?
brentan comments on Aug 27, 2019:
We can get the context here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Open-Society-Enemies-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415610214/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2IUEDBOB70FRF=karl+popper+the+open+society+and+its+enemies=1566902866&s=gateway=karl+popper%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-1
Mcflewster replies on Aug 27, 2019:
Thanks for researching the data.
brentan comments on Aug 27, 2019:
We can get the context here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Open-Society-Enemies-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415610214/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2IUEDBOB70FRF=karl+popper+the+open+society+and+its+enemies=1566902866&s=gateway=karl+popper%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-1
Mcflewster replies on Aug 27, 2019:
Thanks for researching the data.
Condoms....
Mcflewster comments on Aug 16, 2019:
Like taking a bath with a plastic raincoat on?
Mcflewster replies on Aug 27, 2019:
@evergreen This was simply a remark made to me by my 24 year old brother to my 15 year old self. I assumed that he had experienced more practical events than I had at that time.
Mcflewster comments on Aug 16, 2019:
Like taking a bath with a plastic raincoat on?
Mcflewster replies on Aug 27, 2019:
@evergreen This was simply a remark made to me by my 24 year old brother to my 15 year old self. I assumed that he had experienced more practical events than I had at that time.
Religion vs science
JaymeDanielle comments on Aug 26, 2019:
Science at it's core is the search for truth. Spirituality not religion is the search for truth and meaning. Religion is an explanation of one person's experience and interpretation of A search for truth and meaning. Many times this is flawed and uses assumption that unlike science over time is ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 26, 2019:
Spiritualism could be thought of as 'Your own version of science' . In my opinion we each have to find out what real science is and agree with everyone in the world that any conclusion reached is the best available truth.
JaymeDanielle comments on Aug 26, 2019:
Science at it's core is the search for truth. Spirituality not religion is the search for truth and meaning. Religion is an explanation of one person's experience and interpretation of A search for truth and meaning. Many times this is flawed and uses assumption that unlike science over time is ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 26, 2019:
Spiritualism could be thought of as 'Your own version of science' . In my opinion we each have to find out what real science is and agree with everyone in the world that any conclusion reached is the best available truth.
Last weekend my son Neil was over visiting me from Leicester and we had a drive around the Province ...
Geoffrey51 comments on Aug 15, 2019:
Oh my god,that would be tragic. I lived for many years in the Isle Of Wight in East Cowes and the chain ferry links East and West.
Although not the same in size I guess, I can totally understand how awful that outcome would be as if it were East and West Cowes the border impact would be ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 15, 2019:
@Marionville We just hear what amounts to commands from Boris with no hint of what is going to change to bring about this Brexit. "It will happen on Halloween!" ; "Abolish Backstop!"
Geoffrey51 comments on Aug 15, 2019:
Oh my god,that would be tragic. I lived for many years in the Isle Of Wight in East Cowes and the chain ferry links East and West.
Although not the same in size I guess, I can totally understand how awful that outcome would be as if it were East and West Cowes the border impact would be ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 15, 2019:
@Marionville We just hear what amounts to commands from Boris with no hint of what is going to change to bring about this Brexit. "It will happen on Halloween!" ; "Abolish Backstop!"
Last weekend my son Neil was over visiting me from Leicester and we had a drive around the Province ...
Geoffrey51 comments on Aug 15, 2019:
Oh my god,that would be tragic. I lived for many years in the Isle Of Wight in East Cowes and the chain ferry links East and West.
Although not the same in size I guess, I can totally understand how awful that outcome would be as if it were East and West Cowes the border impact would be ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 15, 2019:
@Marionville So what? So was Canute with the sea going backwards.
Geoffrey51 comments on Aug 15, 2019:
Oh my god,that would be tragic. I lived for many years in the Isle Of Wight in East Cowes and the chain ferry links East and West.
Although not the same in size I guess, I can totally understand how awful that outcome would be as if it were East and West Cowes the border impact would be ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 15, 2019:
@Marionville So what? So was Canute with the sea going backwards.
Who needs a savior when we have science and Hitchens wisdom?
SomeGodlessGuy comments on Aug 11, 2019:
What do we need saving from?
Mcflewster replies on Aug 13, 2019:
being gullible.
SomeGodlessGuy comments on Aug 11, 2019:
What do we need saving from?
Mcflewster replies on Aug 13, 2019:
being gullible.
Who needs a savior when we have science and Hitchens wisdom?
Mcflewster comments on Aug 11, 2019:
We just need a savior for our science education, to make everyone appreciate what it can do for them personally and collectively.
Mcflewster replies on Aug 12, 2019:
@genessa I just want a better education in science method for the whole population and that must come from. science educators. Once the M.O. has been spread then it is up to each individual to make the difference. Science is a universal tool for everyone.
I agree that the populous seize upon anyone that seems to know AN answer but it is the methodology that counts.
Mcflewster comments on Aug 11, 2019:
We just need a savior for our science education, to make everyone appreciate what it can do for them personally and collectively.
Mcflewster replies on Aug 12, 2019:
@genessa I just want a better education in science method for the whole population and that must come from. science educators. Once the M.O. has been spread then it is up to each individual to make the difference. Science is a universal tool for everyone.
I agree that the populous seize upon anyone that seems to know AN answer but it is the methodology that counts.
“ Is nothing SACRED?
Buttercup comments on Aug 10, 2019:
Gahan Wilson is GOD!
Mcflewster replies on Aug 10, 2019:
Thank you for introducing me to the art of Gahan Wilson
Buttercup comments on Aug 10, 2019:
Gahan Wilson is GOD!
Mcflewster replies on Aug 10, 2019:
Thank you for introducing me to the art of Gahan Wilson
“ Is nothing SACRED?
HankSherman comments on Aug 10, 2019:
Only songs by Elvis.........I appogize.... a mundane answer.....things are usually sacred to me only. And to expect anyone else to consider them so, I think would be irrational.
Mcflewster replies on Aug 10, 2019:
Please do not appolgize. You have introduced a concept that I omitted in my formulation of the post - that of personal endowment of the word sacred to a product from a famous person. Yes you want to praise those songs and do not want anyone to mess about with them, say by producing a comic version of one of his songs . We should keep away from doing that.
So the concept of SACRED may be useful after all.
HankSherman comments on Aug 10, 2019:
Only songs by Elvis.........I appogize.... a mundane answer.....things are usually sacred to me only. And to expect anyone else to consider them so, I think would be irrational.
Mcflewster replies on Aug 10, 2019:
Please do not appolgize. You have introduced a concept that I omitted in my formulation of the post - that of personal endowment of the word sacred to a product from a famous person. Yes you want to praise those songs and do not want anyone to mess about with them, say by producing a comic version of one of his songs . We should keep away from doing that.
So the concept of SACRED may be useful after all.
“ Is nothing SACRED?
Allamanda comments on Aug 10, 2019:
Objects - no. But there are concepts that are and should be sacred in our lives, and the shock currently felt by many because of this administration's actions show this. The protection of children, the feeding of the homeless, the care of the elderly etc. The rights of refugees, the prevention of ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 10, 2019:
@Allamanda All of your concepts mentioned above are of course good concepts for the benefit of all man/womankind and should not be kept away from including wars if we are talking of starting them.
Allamanda comments on Aug 10, 2019:
Objects - no. But there are concepts that are and should be sacred in our lives, and the shock currently felt by many because of this administration's actions show this. The protection of children, the feeding of the homeless, the care of the elderly etc. The rights of refugees, the prevention of ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 10, 2019:
@Allamanda All of your concepts mentioned above are of course good concepts for the benefit of all man/womankind and should not be kept away from including wars if we are talking of starting them.
“ Is nothing SACRED?
Veazeyj comments on Aug 10, 2019:
I believe that all life is "Sacred". Read Albert Schwietzer's "Reverance for life" I love his outlook on the subject. He lived a very selfless life that may have put even Jesus to shame. The Native American believed that the buffalo was sacred, although sustaining their populations by killing ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 10, 2019:
My post was about objects, areas and perhaps some people who are labelled SACRED perhaps so that we keep away from them. Of course if you put it that way I believe that all Human life is sacred. Native Americans did not want other people to kill buffalo and I quite understand and agree with that
Veazeyj comments on Aug 10, 2019:
I believe that all life is "Sacred". Read Albert Schwietzer's "Reverance for life" I love his outlook on the subject. He lived a very selfless life that may have put even Jesus to shame. The Native American believed that the buffalo was sacred, although sustaining their populations by killing ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 10, 2019:
My post was about objects, areas and perhaps some people who are labelled SACRED perhaps so that we keep away from them. Of course if you put it that way I believe that all Human life is sacred. Native Americans did not want other people to kill buffalo and I quite understand and agree with that
Good morning my friends
Mcflewster comments on Aug 8, 2019:
Do birds ever Kiss? Just a thought.
Mcflewster replies on Aug 9, 2019:
@Athena No canoodling? Does that word register In USA?
Mcflewster comments on Aug 8, 2019:
Do birds ever Kiss? Just a thought.
Mcflewster replies on Aug 9, 2019:
@Athena No canoodling? Does that word register In USA?
Advertising atheism.
Mofo1953 comments on Aug 6, 2019:
I don't because it's nobody's fucking business!
Mcflewster replies on Aug 9, 2019:
@Mofo1953 This is good.
Mofo1953 comments on Aug 6, 2019:
I don't because it's nobody's fucking business!
Mcflewster replies on Aug 9, 2019:
@Mofo1953 This is good.
Advertising atheism.
Mofo1953 comments on Aug 6, 2019:
I don't because it's nobody's fucking business!
Mcflewster replies on Aug 8, 2019:
@Mofo1953 Sorry for persisting but do you not want to have some influence (gratefully received sort) on any potential grandchildren? Perhaps there are none on any possible horizon for you?
Mofo1953 comments on Aug 6, 2019:
I don't because it's nobody's fucking business!
Mcflewster replies on Aug 8, 2019:
@Mofo1953 Sorry for persisting but do you not want to have some influence (gratefully received sort) on any potential grandchildren? Perhaps there are none on any possible horizon for you?
Advertising atheism.
Mofo1953 comments on Aug 6, 2019:
I don't because it's nobody's fucking business!
Mcflewster replies on Aug 7, 2019:
@Mofo1953 I am more interested in the effect on you but then like all of this it IS your own business.
Mofo1953 comments on Aug 6, 2019:
I don't because it's nobody's fucking business!
Mcflewster replies on Aug 7, 2019:
@Mofo1953 I am more interested in the effect on you but then like all of this it IS your own business.
I have always been fascinated by what religionists call wisdom.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Aug 6, 2019:
Hmmmm . . . I take this aphorism to mean that one should always tell the truth but in come cases, discretion is the better part of valor and saying nothing is the better option.
Is that lying by omission?
However, I can see some wisdom in this. When my ex BF asked, "Do these jeans make my ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 6, 2019:
I do think omission is a means of lying.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Aug 6, 2019:
Hmmmm . . . I take this aphorism to mean that one should always tell the truth but in come cases, discretion is the better part of valor and saying nothing is the better option.
Is that lying by omission?
However, I can see some wisdom in this. When my ex BF asked, "Do these jeans make my ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 6, 2019:
I do think omission is a means of lying.
I have always been fascinated by what religionists call wisdom.
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Aug 6, 2019:
Hmmmm . . . I take this aphorism to mean that one should always tell the truth but in come cases, discretion is the better part of valor and saying nothing is the better option.
Is that lying by omission?
However, I can see some wisdom in this. When my ex BF asked, "Do these jeans make my ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 6, 2019:
You have used wisdom to generate, by interpretation, more wisdom. Well done, although I am still not certain what wisdom is. Religions put great emphasis on ancient wisdom. Should wisdom not be timeless?
Gwendolyn2018 comments on Aug 6, 2019:
Hmmmm . . . I take this aphorism to mean that one should always tell the truth but in come cases, discretion is the better part of valor and saying nothing is the better option.
Is that lying by omission?
However, I can see some wisdom in this. When my ex BF asked, "Do these jeans make my ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 6, 2019:
You have used wisdom to generate, by interpretation, more wisdom. Well done, although I am still not certain what wisdom is. Religions put great emphasis on ancient wisdom. Should wisdom not be timeless?
Advertising atheism.
Mofo1953 comments on Aug 6, 2019:
I don't because it's nobody's fucking business!
Mcflewster replies on Aug 6, 2019:
Would be interested to learn what are some of the limits of your 'Business'. What if your son wanted to marry a bride of another completely difficult and rigidly peculiar religion? Could it not affect your grandchildren?
Mofo1953 comments on Aug 6, 2019:
I don't because it's nobody's fucking business!
Mcflewster replies on Aug 6, 2019:
Would be interested to learn what are some of the limits of your 'Business'. What if your son wanted to marry a bride of another completely difficult and rigidly peculiar religion? Could it not affect your grandchildren?
Advertising atheism.
Fernapple comments on Aug 6, 2019:
Don't really bother, in the UK nobody gives a D.
Mcflewster replies on Aug 6, 2019:
Just to say I do not agree. Each to their own I suppose.
Fernapple comments on Aug 6, 2019:
Don't really bother, in the UK nobody gives a D.
Mcflewster replies on Aug 6, 2019:
Just to say I do not agree. Each to their own I suppose.
‘Science does not try to undermine religion – religion is simply irrelevant to science’
TristanNuvo comments on Jul 26, 2019:
On the David McConnell quote. I was much the same way, although I was never a believer. I had the fortune to have not been brought up in a religious household.
But I also had the fortune to have gone to a few "Science" based schools. Something IMHO, we are lacking. Using the Scientific method in ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 5, 2019:
" Using the Scientific method in every avenue is honestly the only way to get to the truth." As an ex-science teacher this is my overall goal. If we think what children need to understand and use science for their own purposes we can improve things. What ever we decide for children can , in an adapted form be applied to adults too. Would you consider joining my Science Teacher's group on this site - note you do not have to be a paid teacher to join - just be interested in science education for all.
TristanNuvo comments on Jul 26, 2019:
On the David McConnell quote. I was much the same way, although I was never a believer. I had the fortune to have not been brought up in a religious household.
But I also had the fortune to have gone to a few "Science" based schools. Something IMHO, we are lacking. Using the Scientific method in ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 5, 2019:
" Using the Scientific method in every avenue is honestly the only way to get to the truth." As an ex-science teacher this is my overall goal. If we think what children need to understand and use science for their own purposes we can improve things. What ever we decide for children can , in an adapted form be applied to adults too. Would you consider joining my Science Teacher's group on this site - note you do not have to be a paid teacher to join - just be interested in science education for all.
Let’s face it, we all have voices in our head.
LiterateHiker comments on Aug 4, 2019:
"Taming Your Gremlin: *A Surprisingly Simple Method for Getting Out of Your Own Way*" by Rick Carson helped me tremendously.
Growing up, my alcoholic father constantly criticized me. Nothing I did was good enough for him.
"Uncle John and I were very worried about you when you were growing ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 4, 2019:
Can you show us some of the pictures from this book?
LiterateHiker comments on Aug 4, 2019:
"Taming Your Gremlin: *A Surprisingly Simple Method for Getting Out of Your Own Way*" by Rick Carson helped me tremendously.
Growing up, my alcoholic father constantly criticized me. Nothing I did was good enough for him.
"Uncle John and I were very worried about you when you were growing ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 4, 2019:
Can you show us some of the pictures from this book?
Famous Atheist - Jodie Foster
evidentialist comments on Aug 4, 2019:
In a 1991 interview with *Ladies' Home Journal*, Kathryn Hepburn said:
"I'm an atheist, and that's it. I believe there is nothing we can know except that we should be kind to each other and do what we can for each other."
Mcflewster replies on Aug 4, 2019:
We could help the learning without pressure. Teachers are important and you can teach yourself as all the self help books say.
evidentialist comments on Aug 4, 2019:
In a 1991 interview with *Ladies' Home Journal*, Kathryn Hepburn said:
"I'm an atheist, and that's it. I believe there is nothing we can know except that we should be kind to each other and do what we can for each other."
Mcflewster replies on Aug 4, 2019:
We could help the learning without pressure. Teachers are important and you can teach yourself as all the self help books say.
Let’s face it, we all have voices in our head.
webbew1 comments on Aug 4, 2019:
https://youtu.be/afxLOJrv_bA
Mcflewster replies on Aug 4, 2019:
Thanks for the backup. Wish I was this musical to pick out a tune myself
webbew1 comments on Aug 4, 2019:
https://youtu.be/afxLOJrv_bA
Mcflewster replies on Aug 4, 2019:
Thanks for the backup. Wish I was this musical to pick out a tune myself
"Spiritual not religious" I know this subject has probably been beat to death but having just come ...
Metahuman comments on Aug 2, 2019:
Ive posted this elsewhere. However, i think it bears repeating, and is in context.
"If you are intelligent and reasonable you cannot be the product of a mechanical and meaningless universe.
Figs do not grow on thistles. Grapes do not grow on thorns, and therefore you, as an expression of the ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 4, 2019:
@Metahuman "there's no thought involved. Aren't you? Didn't you say that?" Yes I did - all it needs is for protons neutrons and elections to get into the configuration they will have for the rest of their stable lives. Some atoms however, are more unstable than others and spontaneously decay.
There may be actions brought about by thought that bring two chemicals together e.sexual intercourse but once those chemicals are within range of each other - usually an intimate distance then there is no thought -it is automatic. Each atom has a low or high affinity for each other atom. it is based on electronic structure within the atom and for that element is immutable. Oxygen atoms have a particularly wide ranging affinity for most other atoms e.g of exception -gold. Neon has not much attraction as all the rare gases. Atoms cannot help but react if they are going to - no thought involved. Thoughts arise in brain atoms because of stimuli observed - massively visual but not exclusively. Neural networks are formed which have inbuilt repeating loops that have chemical help to make them stick i.e are memory stored > These decay if not continually refreshed.
When considering the likelihood of chance events happening e.g. make life on earth, please consider the eons of time that has nothing else to do but elapse until chance happens.
Really do not see the point of saying this below but thanks for trying to make connections.
"There is nothing here but the universe.
There is thinking here.
Therefore - the universe is thinking."
Metahuman comments on Aug 2, 2019:
Ive posted this elsewhere. However, i think it bears repeating, and is in context.
"If you are intelligent and reasonable you cannot be the product of a mechanical and meaningless universe.
Figs do not grow on thistles. Grapes do not grow on thorns, and therefore you, as an expression of the ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 4, 2019:
@Metahuman "there's no thought involved. Aren't you? Didn't you say that?" Yes I did - all it needs is for protons neutrons and elections to get into the configuration they will have for the rest of their stable lives. Some atoms however, are more unstable than others and spontaneously decay.
There may be actions brought about by thought that bring two chemicals together e.sexual intercourse but once those chemicals are within range of each other - usually an intimate distance then there is no thought -it is automatic. Each atom has a low or high affinity for each other atom. it is based on electronic structure within the atom and for that element is immutable. Oxygen atoms have a particularly wide ranging affinity for most other atoms e.g of exception -gold. Neon has not much attraction as all the rare gases. Atoms cannot help but react if they are going to - no thought involved. Thoughts arise in brain atoms because of stimuli observed - massively visual but not exclusively. Neural networks are formed which have inbuilt repeating loops that have chemical help to make them stick i.e are memory stored > These decay if not continually refreshed.
When considering the likelihood of chance events happening e.g. make life on earth, please consider the eons of time that has nothing else to do but elapse until chance happens.
Really do not see the point of saying this below but thanks for trying to make connections.
"There is nothing here but the universe.
There is thinking here.
Therefore - the universe is thinking."
"Spiritual not religious" I know this subject has probably been beat to death but having just come ...
Metahuman comments on Aug 2, 2019:
Ive posted this elsewhere. However, i think it bears repeating, and is in context.
"If you are intelligent and reasonable you cannot be the product of a mechanical and meaningless universe.
Figs do not grow on thistles. Grapes do not grow on thorns, and therefore you, as an expression of the ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 3, 2019:
@Metahuman As a science protagonist, I like having my assumptions pointed out. Please spell it out for me.
Metahuman comments on Aug 2, 2019:
Ive posted this elsewhere. However, i think it bears repeating, and is in context.
"If you are intelligent and reasonable you cannot be the product of a mechanical and meaningless universe.
Figs do not grow on thistles. Grapes do not grow on thorns, and therefore you, as an expression of the ...
Mcflewster replies on Aug 3, 2019:
@Metahuman As a science protagonist, I like having my assumptions pointed out. Please spell it out for me.
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