If you are dumb enough to believe this is even possible, I feel sorry for you, because the NRA ...

Davidthinks comments on May 3, 2018:

It is not meant to be taken literally.

MikeFlora replies on May 3, 2018:

How do you not take JOIN THE NRA OR LOSE YOUR GUNS literally. Trump and the NRA are playing you, maybe one day you will see I'm not the enemy they make me out to be.

If you are dumb enough to believe this is even possible, I feel sorry for you, because the NRA ...

buck1977 comments on May 3, 2018:

gun control activists are clueless and insane

MikeFlora replies on May 3, 2018:

So, you really think anybody that has a gun and doesn't join the NRA is going to make everybody lose their guns? That's what the ad says JOIN THE NRA OR LOSE YOUR GUNS

If you are dumb enough to believe this is even possible, I feel sorry for you, because the NRA ...

Lancer comments on May 3, 2018:

To be fair, that is a little dumb. But the alternative (democrats) isn't much better.

MikeFlora replies on May 3, 2018:

NRA is insinuating that I'm going after their guns and the only way to stop me is the NRA. In all fairness they aren't crediting members with being overly smart. the NRA or lose your guns. Really this isn't personal

I posted this in Politics as well because it is so related to 45's stupid vice president.

ArdentAtheist comments on May 3, 2018:

I have a gun, inherited it, don’t want it! It’s locked in a safe for now... It was a registered weapon that belonged to my dad... why if it was registered have no authorities asked me where it is? We have so many holes in our gun laws it looks like the Albert Hall, they will count them all but ...

MikeFlora replies on May 3, 2018:

Registered part only counts if you lose it, or it's found at a crime scene. Then someone will give it back to you, or come get you. If you really don't want it and don't want to sell it, you can take it to your local police station and they will take it.

@HippieChick58 Hi there, since this is Trump Pinata where we bash to our hearts content to relieve ...

KKGator comments on May 3, 2018:

We get trolls? I must not be paying attention. I promise, if I run across one, I'll be sure to communicate my displeasure at their presence!

MikeFlora replies on May 3, 2018:

Come by Gun Control Now and let me introduce you to a few.

Gun That Looks Like Cell Phone Promoted On NRA Website Can you possibly be that fucking stupid! ...

Trajan61 comments on May 2, 2018:

You obviously don’t believe in concealed carry of a handgun for self Defense!

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

I don't want to get shot by cops thinking my real cellphone was a gun

I'm looking for people to host Gun Control Now groups in cities around the country.

mhmccabe comments on May 2, 2018:

Best of luck in getting Mr. Trump and the rest of the idiots out of Washington. I stand with you there. As a progressive Republican, I only wish to remind you that our party has been hijacked by the far right and that not all Republicans are bible-thumping Neanderthals. As far as gun control is ...

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

You guys stood by and let them put Trump in the Whitehouse knowing Clinton had a 2.9 million vote lead, and she was who we wanted for president. it is supposed to be the one with the most votes wins. Nothing we can do about that now. Regardless of what Trump and the NRA are saying, it's impossible to repeal the 2nd amendment or take everybody guns away, even if I wanted to, and I don't. Just assault weapons nothing else.

[youtu.be] This was pretty interesting.

ArtemisDivine comments on May 1, 2018:

I've seen this before. It's an excellent video. I think @MikeFlora and his gun control group would benefit from this video if they would actually watch, listen and acknowledge what it conveys. We all want our children to be protected. We all want to be able to walk down the street or go shopping and...

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

No offense, I've heard the same thing from about a half dozen people. The only problem I have is the part about this gun today that gun tomorrow. The ban in 1994 lasted 10 yrs and nothing else was added to the ban.

Let Trump and the NRA talk all they want to about the 2nd amendment and taking everybody's guns if ...

sassygirl3869 comments on May 2, 2018:

Totally agree-sick of the division in this country. Us vs them mentality.

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

How sick? just talking about it isn't going to change anything we have to make Nov. count

Gun That Looks Like Cell Phone Promoted On NRA Website Can you possibly be that fucking stupid! ...

bigpawbullets comments on May 2, 2018:

I completely agree that this is a dumb concept, probably driven entirely by marketing. The weapon is, clumsy, and way to slow to deploy in an actual violent confrontation.

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

Not to mention getting shot for holding a real cellphone!

[youtu.be] This was pretty interesting.

gater comments on May 1, 2018:

Lets get rid of cars too - they can be used to run people over.

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

@Lancer Trump's approval rating hovers around 35%, gun control approval rating was 67% last time I checked. I have a solid lead on both sides, I don't need to convince anybody of anything. As long as Trump keeps doing stupid shit and we don't, I have more than enough votes in Nov. to get what I need.

Just for the record, and I'm not trying to argue with anybody, repealing the 2nd amendment, and ...

buck1977 comments on May 2, 2018:

Repeat a lie often enough....

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

If you are so dumb you believe Trump and the NRA, that doing either one is actually possible, more power to you. I have better things to do with my time.

Just for the record, and I'm not trying to argue with anybody, repealing the 2nd amendment, and ...

Hipcowboy comments on May 2, 2018:

To bad the rest of the liberal snowflakes thought the same.

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

Just because the Republicans are stupid enough to try to repeal Obamacare a few hundred times knowing every single time that it wouldn't work, doesn't mean we are I am done with this subject. I've wasted all the time I intend to on a subject that is impossible to do even if I wanted to, which I don't

I just saw Trump saying on facebook that because 1 retired old judge said it, all gun control ...

buck1977 comments on Apr 30, 2018:

What do you think life would be like if you valued honesty and integrity?

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

@buck1977 if that's how you feel

Dear rest of the world come one come all to America. We have no deterents! [mobile.reuters.com]

DarrelScott comments on May 1, 2018:

Time is long past for a wall on the southern border.

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

@Davidthinks I'm not arguing with you, we are getting kinda full. My point is we can't say in one direction "come on in and make yourself comfortable" and in the other direction" we're sorry, no one will ever be here to take your call". Regardless of how we go, we let them in on one side and kick them in the ass on the other, we're kinda 2 faced if we don't.

Holy shit.

MikeFlora comments on May 2, 2018:

She said she liked to think about it, she didn't say she was going to do it.

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

@Captain_Feelgood well I guess it's a good thing we don't want any

Just for the record, and I'm not trying to argue with anybody, repealing the 2nd amendment, and ...

buck1977 comments on May 2, 2018:

Repeat a lie often enough....

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

believe whatever you want

Holy shit.

MikeFlora comments on May 2, 2018:

She said she liked to think about it, she didn't say she was going to do it.

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

@Beach_slim Whatever you say, I don't think she meant it.

Dear rest of the world come one come all to America. We have no deterents! [mobile.reuters.com]

Davidthinks comments on May 1, 2018:

My thought regarding the wall is that Trump use the wall as an over all metaphor for immigration reform. Need the physical security but we also need the laws that ensure the barrier is enforced and ICE is able to do their job. Dems refuse to cooperate on either.

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

That's because the plaque at the bottom of the statue of liberty say's " Give me your tired, your pore , your huddled masses, yearning to be free.

Dear rest of the world come one come all to America. We have no deterents! [mobile.reuters.com]

Trajan61 comments on May 1, 2018:

That was exactly the attitude of that idiot Obama. It just blows my mind that the politicians won’t support Trump on the southern border wall. I don’t understand why they don’t arrest those crazy nuts in California for defying the federal government on immigration.

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

12 million immigrants in a population of over 320 million is 3%. How many resources can 3% actually use. Seems to me that we should spend more time on the other 97%

Holy shit.

MikeFlora comments on May 2, 2018:

She said she liked to think about it, she didn't say she was going to do it.

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

@SpikeTalon Don't tell me, tell her, she's the one that said it. I never said I agree with her, I think there is enough shooting going on right now. Block her too, I don't think she will mind.

Like I said, we don't have to convince anyone of anything, We've got a solid lead on trump and with...

GipsyOfNewSpain comments on May 1, 2018:

Do your deed Brother!

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

We're going to let Trumpites flop around like a fish out of water. We don't have to take anything from anybody. Make sure the right people get elected for the least amount of money and we can get what we want.

Like I said, we don't have to convince anyone of anything, We've got a solid lead on trump and with...

nvrnuff comments on May 2, 2018:

My biggest concern is who is running in 2020?

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

We're going to start with Congress and the Senate this Nov.

Like I said, we don't have to convince anyone of anything, We've got a solid lead on trump and with...

nvrnuff comments on May 2, 2018:

I have never been an activist, I don't know where to begin. Where I live there is no Democratic party to speak of. Need some insight.

MikeFlora replies on May 2, 2018:

Not a problem, we'll figure it out

[youtu.be] This was pretty interesting.

gater comments on May 1, 2018:

Lets get rid of cars too - they can be used to run people over.

MikeFlora replies on May 1, 2018:

Don't you think that's a little silly. lol.

I'm back, how is everybody today, I took a little break to figure out how to fire back at Trump, NRA...

woodmann6 comments on May 1, 2018:

Time abd time again you gun control nuts are so wrong

MikeFlora replies on May 1, 2018:

Thank you, have a nice day.

Dear rest of the world come one come all to America. We have no deterents! [mobile.reuters.com]

DarrelScott comments on May 1, 2018:

Time is long past for a wall on the southern border.

MikeFlora replies on May 1, 2018:

@gater What happened to land of the free, where would we be now, if that's the way it was when our ancestors came here.

I just saw Trump saying on facebook that because 1 retired old judge said it, all gun control ...

buck1977 comments on Apr 30, 2018:

What do you think life would be like if you valued honesty and integrity?

MikeFlora replies on May 1, 2018:

Considering you people don't know the meanings of either word, you tell me.

I just saw Trump saying on facebook that because 1 retired old judge said it, all gun control people...

Seeker55 comments on Apr 29, 2018:

Really...no kidding. The bigger picture is the fact that it is more about money than the 2nd amendment. There used to be a ban on assault weapons but that was repealed. Since then gun makers have been making money hand over fist. It’s all about money.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 29, 2018:

Actually it wasn't repealed it expired, it had a 10 yr limit and the Republicans let it expire. Sadly you can say that about most everything these days. Our problem is the NRA feeding it's members shit like, regardless of what we say, the assault weapons ban is a ploy and what we really want to do is take everybody's guns, so don't believe anything we say, because we are plotting against everybody. Everybody likes a good conspiracy.

I just saw Trump saying on facebook that because 1 retired old judge said it, all gun control people...

doug6352 comments on Apr 29, 2018:

As a practical matter constitutional amendments are now fabricated by the US Supreme Court whenever they feel like it. The Heller decision giving solid status to the 2nd amendment was passed by a 5 to 4 vote. The Liberal gun-grabbers would like to confiscate all of the privately owned firearms...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 29, 2018:

Beyond assault weapons, us liberal gun-grabbers don't give a rat's ass how many guns you or what kind they are. Trump and the NRA are feeding you this bullshit and you are eating it up like candy. I'm trying to keep the conservation going and keep the peace, you just made that impossible. Us relentless, dishonest, liberal gun-grabbers, who want to take everybody's guns away have better things to do.

I just saw Trump saying on facebook that because 1 retired old judge said it, all gun control people...

MrPKitty comments on Apr 29, 2018:

That's how everything is now. Someone says something and everyone jumps to the negative extreme. I'm 55 years old and I'm telling you, every President since Reagan has been going to go door to door and force every American to give up their guns. And so far, none of them have. Be cause none of ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 29, 2018:

ma'am you are exactly right.

I just saw Trump saying on facebook that because 1 retired old judge said it, all gun control ...

Trajan61 comments on Apr 29, 2018:

I’ve never worried about the 2nd amendment being repealed as it’s pretty much impossible but I do worry about liberal judges on the Supreme Court and other courts who don’t even recognize it like you yourself so what in the hell are you talking about!! We’d be facing that situation right now...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 29, 2018:

I'm talking about Trump and the NRA have been feeding you shit about what we want to do and got you all fired up because regardless of what we say, we coming to get your guns. There is no possible way to convince you they lying straight to your face, and I'm not going to try.

I just saw Trump saying on facebook that because 1 retired old judge said it, all gun control people...

marmot84 comments on Apr 29, 2018:

I agree with this post. The 2nd Amendment debate is a non-starter. While I personally do want to have the 2nd amendment repelled or better dramatically revised, that is beside the point. I recognize that my position is untenable in the current political situation. Fortunately, words on tweeter...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 29, 2018:

They are being passed now, it's just on a local level.

I just saw Trump saying on facebook that because 1 retired old judge said it, all gun control people...

Plainjane comments on Apr 29, 2018:

He's fear-mongering. As usual. Pandering to the weak-minded. I just had this discussion on another thread. He won't stop. He knows he can pander to these rightwingers by speaking in absolutes because that's what they understand. And they buy it because they don't have to give it any critical ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 29, 2018:

There has got to be something we can do, I just have to figure out what it is exactly.

I just saw Trump saying on facebook that because 1 retired old judge said it, all gun control ...

Beach_slim comments on Apr 29, 2018:

You post here more than the members do. Is this a liberal gun control group now?

MikeFlora replies on Apr 29, 2018:

I am a member. No you guys are the other side to my group. This is a public forum. Everybody can see what everybody else is posting. It goes both ways, Lancer is a member in my group, he can post whenever he wants to. I'm trying to debate and keep the peace, but some of you guys seem to be directing a lot of hate towards us. I think it's coming from the NRA telling people regardless of what we say all we really want to do is take everybody's guns. I have 2 shotguns that I intend to keep.

I just saw Trump saying on facebook that because 1 retired old judge said it, all gun control people...

AmyLF comments on Apr 29, 2018:

Not all gun control people want it repealed. What the majority of them want is adjustments to it as well as other laws for conditions in licensing. Control, not abolishment. There is a difference. I don't feel this will be resolved until healthcare, including psychological care, becomes ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 29, 2018:

None of us want to repeal the 2nd amendment, it's a nice thought, but we all know that it is impossible to do even if we wanted to which we don't. we don't to take everybody's guns either, It's another lie the NRA and Trump are telling about us.

I just saw Trump saying on facebook that because 1 retired old judge said it, all gun control ...

cmadler comments on Apr 29, 2018:

Yes, we'll be happy to stop discussing it amongst ourselves when would-be gun-grabbers so bringing it up. It's hardly just "1 retired old judge" saying that...and by the way, calling retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Steven's a "retired old judge" is a bit like calling Jimmy Carter a failed...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 29, 2018:

Trump said it on facebook today. Your people are the ones bringing it up saying that assault weapons ban is a ruse and what we really want to do is get rid of all guns and repeal the 2nd amendment. That comes from Trump and the NRA.

I just saw Trump saying on facebook that because 1 retired old judge said it, all gun control people...

carlyhorton comments on Apr 29, 2018:

I think I'm pretty dialed-in to the mainstream Democratic ideology, and I NEVER hear repeal mentioned. Literally never. It just simply is not a mainstream idea. But that didn't stop our current president from whipping his voters into a frenzy with lies about it. Shameless opportunist, ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 29, 2018:

Trump just said it on facebook today.

I don't understand how you guys can support trump after all the lies he tells, he even lies about ...

Leutrelle comments on Apr 29, 2018:

You pretend he is the only President that lies.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 29, 2018:

This is just the lies he told up to last Nov. Jan. 21 “I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq.” (He was for an invasion before he was against it.) Jan. 21 “A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine.” (Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.) Jan. 23 “Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.” (There's no evidence of illegal voting.) Jan. 25 “Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive.” (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.) Jan. 25 “Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)” (The report never mentioned voter fraud.) Jan. 25 “You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore.” (The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.) Jan. 25 “So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.” (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.) Jan. 26 “We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them. They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers. How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have no papers? How do you vet them? You can't.” (Vetting lasts up to two years.) Jan. 26 “I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours, and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better.” (Most of the cuts were already planned.) Jan. 28 “The coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost has been so false and angry that the Times actually apologized to its dwindling subscribers and readers.” (It never apologized.) Jan. 29 “The Cuban-Americans, I got 84 percent of that vote.” (There is no support for this.) Jan. 30 “Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning. Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage.” (At least 746 people were detained and processed, and the Delta outage happened two days later.) Feb. 3 “Professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters are proving the point of the millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” (There is no evidence of paid protesters.) Feb. 4 “After being forced to apologize for its bad and inaccurate coverage of me after winning the election, the FAKE NEWS @nytimes...

I don't understand how you guys can support trump after all the lies he tells, he even lies about ...

Beach_slim comments on Apr 29, 2018:

I saw that, but I'm sick of Bernie Sanders socialism crap. I suppose it doesn't matter who the president is, only losers think that who the president is will determine whether or not you are successful in life.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 29, 2018:

We've had better, way better

I kept wondering why, no matter What I said or how many times I said it, it always came down to the ...

GipsyOfNewSpain comments on Apr 29, 2018:

Is the second amendment working out?

MikeFlora replies on Apr 29, 2018:

Depends on who you talk to, for them yes, for me no

Ya'll just don't ever quit, do you?

Trajan61 comments on Apr 28, 2018:

You sir are very radical in my opinion. I thought we had an agreement that you would do your thing with your group and we will do our thing in our group but you keep posting tirades on our conservative group. I don’t think you are impressing anybody here so why don’t you call it quits. @Lancer, ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

We did, then I came over here to see what you guy's were talking about, and I see some people are back to bashing us again, then I went to the NRA website and saw what they were saying about us. The NRA has convinced some of you that no matter what we say all we want to do is take everybody's guns and repeal the 2nd amendment. The NRA is lying to you about what we want and since there's no way you will believe me over them, I'm not going to try.

Ya'll just don't ever quit, do you?

ArtemisDivine comments on Apr 28, 2018:

I'm not sure what you're talking about nor do I care. Why do you keep insisting on making posts to our group? I don't go around comparing anyone to neo Nazis, make derogatory comments about someone's upbringing or belittle others because they view things differently.... Maybe you should read what ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

That's exactly what I'm talking about, where's all that hate coming from, some people here spend way more time bashing us than they do talking about issues, and not giving up 1 bullet to Gun Control. Then I went to the NRA website, now I know.

I kept wondering why, no matter What I said or how many times I said it, it always came down to the ...

sassygirl3869 comments on Apr 28, 2018:

The NRA lies and lies.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

No it's not, I have 2 shotguns and I want to keep them. The NRA is lying to you about us, but you are never going to believe me over them. I'm not going to try.

Analyzing lies and slander/libel from the left.

MikeFlora comments on Apr 28, 2018:

Ammosexuals is a joke, we don't think you get on with your bullets, it's because you are passionate about what you believe in, that's all. You need to remember, whether you are pro-gun, or gun control, we're all still Americans.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

@Beach_slim And calling me Litard is?

Analyzing lies and slander/libel from the left.

Lancer comments on Apr 18, 2018:

Liberals: This is triggering. I demand emotional reparations. Me: This is quite insulting for the legitimate mentally ill people to be compared to liberals. Bloody libtards

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

@Lancer The difference I was talking about was you bitching about us calling you ammosexuals , and you turning around and calling us Litard in the same post. The NRA has got you people convinced that no matter what I say, all I want to do is take everybody's guns and repeal the 2nd amendment. I say that lady in a commercial the other day and damned if she isn't doing the same thing. I can't compete with shit like that, and I'm not going to try. I couldn't understand why you people wouldn't give up 1 bullet, now I know, the NRA.

I kept wondering why, no matter What I said or how many times I said it, it always came down to the ...

JackPedigo comments on Apr 28, 2018:

This shows you the power of propaganda and fear. These people have been on this band wagon too long to even think about another side. I found some gun mags. in our mag exchange at the library. The stuff in them was unbelievable. There must be real conflict between some of these people and their ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

Go over to the NRA and see what they are saying about us. The NRA is why we aren't getting anywhere and why they don't want to give up 1 bullet. They have convinced people that no matter what we say, all we want to do is take everybody's guns and repeal the 2nd amendment and we'll do anything to get there.

Ya'll just don't ever quit, do you?

TheInterlooper comments on Apr 28, 2018:

Isn't this the guy that calls people who support the second amendment "gun nuts " and "ammosexuals"? ?

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

@TheInterlooper When you won't give up so much as 1 bullet it seems that way. Now I know why, the NRA has convinced some people that no matter what I say, all I want to do is take everybody's guns and repeal the 2nd amendment. Since there is nothing I can say to change that I'm tired of trying. You're never going to believe me over the NRA, and until I can find a way to prove they're lying to you about us, I'm not going to try.

Ya'll just don't ever quit, do you?

SpikeTalon comments on Apr 28, 2018:

What are you on about now Mike? Everyone is entitled to their views, and I have sure witnessed plenty of Trump bashing on here, and I for one am getting sick and tired of getting maligned and called names like ammosexual. If you don't like a particular post, you could always ignore it and move ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

Nothing we keep going around in circles wasting each others time. The president of the United States is a role model. Do you really think Trump is a good role model?

Ya'll just don't ever quit, do you?

Leutrelle comments on Apr 28, 2018:

Are you sure your talking to the right group?

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

Yes I'm talking to the right group. I host the Gun Control Now group and I guess I'm a liberal at least they think I am, and no matter what I say or how many times I say it, the NRA has got some people convinced that all I want to do is take everybody's guns and repeal the 2nd amendment. I have been trying to make peace and all I have managed to do is waste my time.

I kept wondering why, no matter What I said or how many times I said it, it always came down to the ...

Lancer comments on Apr 28, 2018:

No, it's just that regular people understand that a law against killing doesn't stop murder. So why should they allow themselves to become defenseless when the police have shown that they can't protect people? Also disarmament is the first step towards tyranny, not the tyranny that liberals ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

You just proved my point, I didn't say 1 word about what I want, I just said what the NRA is pounding into your head. Neither one of you has listened to anything I have said about what I want. Since you refuse to listen I refuse to talk, Think whatever you want too.

Another march coming soon! Vote for the official shirt: [act.everytown.org]

MikeFlora comments on Apr 28, 2018:

A

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

@wowspring sorry

Ya'll just don't ever quit, do you?

DarrelScott comments on Apr 28, 2018:

That's why it is called fake news. The propaganda office must be proud.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

The only fake news is what the NRA and Trump are telling you about us.

Ya'll just don't ever quit, do you?

cmadler comments on Apr 28, 2018:

Not sure what you're referring to, but I do wish you'd stop posting here since you're contributing nothing meaningful to the conversation.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

How is trashing liberals meaningful?

Ya'll just don't ever quit, do you?

TheInterlooper comments on Apr 28, 2018:

Isn't this the guy that calls people who support the second amendment "gun nuts " and "ammosexuals"? ?

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

Yeah and I'm trying to make peace, but some of you people want to spend way more time trashing us than talking about issues

I kept wondering why, no matter What I said or how many times I said it, it always came down to the ...

Sheitelhau comments on Apr 28, 2018:

Certainly, any form of generalization will neglect differences in the individual. There are many degrees of gun control, just as there are many degrees of being pro-gun. Personally, I'd fit into the pro-gun label, but I don't really care what Trump or the NRA have to say on the subject.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

It's what they are saying about us and what we want to do

I kept wondering why, no matter What I said or how many times I said it, it always came down to the ...

bigpawbullets comments on Apr 28, 2018:

While I respect your right to your opinion, I feel completely the opposite. I think everyone should be armed. And, this isn't a joke.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

Why?

This is an excellent read- [thefederalist.

ArtemisDivine comments on Apr 18, 2018:

Yes, yes, yes! Unfortunately, the opposition does not want to seek out nor acknowledge truth.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

And you do, really?

Analyzing lies and slander/libel from the left.

Trajan61 comments on Apr 18, 2018:

The left can’t stand anyone with a different opinion. The try to shut you up and accuse you of being a troll.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

And you don't

Analyzing lies and slander/libel from the left.

Lancer comments on Apr 18, 2018:

Liberals: This is triggering. I demand emotional reparations. Me: This is quite insulting for the legitimate mentally ill people to be compared to liberals. Bloody libtards

MikeFlora replies on Apr 28, 2018:

Libtards, really? How is this different than ammosexuals?

This is a list of all of unarmed black people killed by police 1999-2014 Rumain Brisbon, 34, ...

SurvivorSteph comments on Apr 27, 2018:

? How many more since then?

MikeFlora replies on Apr 27, 2018:

I'm still working on that one.

I think they should create an LGBTQ group for the community.

MikeFlora comments on Apr 27, 2018:

There is one lgbt+

MikeFlora replies on Apr 27, 2018:

@BettyColeman My first computer was a trs-80 from radio shack in 1980. I have been to computer school twice, and it still takes me awhile to figure some of this stuff out. If you have any more problems just holler and I'll do what I can.

I guess I'm done with "politics as usual.

MikeFlora comments on Apr 25, 2018:

Building yourself up is a lot harder than tearing somebody else down.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 27, 2018:

@JudyABQ As long as the same kind of people are the only ones campaigning, and as long as they think the only way to get elected is to raise and spent ridiculous sums of money, and as long as they think big business is the only place to get ridiculous sums of money, nothing is going to really change, because every candidate is bought and paid for by somebody.

I think they should create an LGBTQ group for the community.

MikeFlora comments on Apr 27, 2018:

There is one lgbt+

MikeFlora replies on Apr 27, 2018:

@BettyColeman When you first come on the site the toolbar at the top of the page says Post, Discuss, Meet, About. Click on Meet and a drop box opens that says members, groups, events. Click on groups, the screen changes and gives you a list of groups that are available, scroll down the page until you find what you are looking for. After you have joined a group you will see them listed under My Groups, on the right side of the group list page, near the top.

This is a little off topic, it's from my Police Brutality group.

Sheumais comments on Apr 27, 2018:

The Police in Australia target indigenous people more than anyone else.The death rate while in custody is way higher than any other racial group.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 27, 2018:

I've heard.

I don't expect pro gun people to believe me, but the NRA is lying to you.

Seeker55 comments on Apr 27, 2018:

The NRA is big business, big money and in the pocket of a host of political figures. As long as money rules, we can expect little change.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 27, 2018:

Go over to their website and see the shit they're saying about us.

This is a little off topic, it's from my Police Brutality group.

kenriley comments on Apr 27, 2018:

More people need to wake up to this crime. That's a long list and I'm willing to bet it's not a complete one.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 27, 2018:

No way in hell, if they didn't have any family for 1

I think they should create an LGBTQ group for the community.

MikeFlora comments on Apr 27, 2018:

There is one lgbt+

MikeFlora replies on Apr 27, 2018:

@BettyColeman I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are asking me to do. Click on meet at the top of the home page, when you see a drop down box, click on groups, when the screen changes, scroll down the page until you find what you are looking for, there are probably 50 to 75 groups now. As to losing members, you don't lose them, because you never had them to begin with. Everybody wants to say they are part of a group that's going to change the world, damn few actually do anything beyond talking. I knew that from the beginning before I came here. My groups on facebook are the same way. I figure they get to say they are part of a gun control now group, and I get to say my group has over 160 members

Trump is having a State Dinner, for France's Macron and only one Democrat and no journalist are ...

LeighShelton comments on Apr 24, 2018:

I wasn't invited either

MikeFlora replies on Apr 27, 2018:

you win

Trump is having a State Dinner, for France's Macron and only one Democrat and no journalist are ...

doug6352 comments on Apr 24, 2018:

News bulletin: Trump won the 2016 election. Live with it. Do you invite your worst enemies to dinner? I thought not.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 27, 2018:

@jorj Government of the people, by the people, for the people means the only thing that counts is who got the most votes "of the people".

It has been my painful experience that police brutality is not entirely race based.

SurvivorSteph comments on Apr 27, 2018:

If you were black, they would have killed you. I’m sorry that you were brutalized, but you’re alive to tell the tale. It really isn’t the same.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 27, 2018:

The way I meant that is, not only are cops beating and shooting up blacks they are doing shit to whites also.

I don't expect pro gun people to believe me, but the NRA is lying to you.

Science-guy comments on Apr 26, 2018:

I have always wondered why the NRA totally ignores the “well regulated militia” aspect of the 2nd amendment.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

These guys used quill pens and bottles of India ink they're not going to write more words than they have to. So if they had wanted everybody to have as many guns as they wanted the 2nd amendment would just say "The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed". Anything beyond that means they had some kind of limitations in mind. The whole militia thing means they had some serious limitations in mind, and it would have been nice if they had bothered to explain a little better what they had in mind, exactly.

I like the new countdown to the chatroom feature which is great because it cuts across all time ...

MikeFlora comments on Apr 26, 2018:

What are we counting down to.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

@FrayedBear Ok, I missed it.

Trump is having a State Dinner, for France's Macron and only one Democrat and no journalist are ...

doug6352 comments on Apr 24, 2018:

News bulletin: Trump won the 2016 election. Live with it. Do you invite your worst enemies to dinner? I thought not.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

@jorj The people of America count. You don't campaign states you campaign people. We are what count, our vote is the only thing that counts. This is the second time actually that somebody became president without the popular vote. James Garfield won electoral college votes and didn't win the popular vote, but it was only a few thousand votes. This is 2.9 million people, republicans told to go fuck themselves, we're gonna put Trump in the Whitehouse anyway. Everybody is always talking about getting out to vote, what for, if that many votes don't count why bother. This country was founded on Government of the people, by the people, for the people. Telling 2.9 million people their vote doesn't count doesn't sound like "for the people" to me. The President of the United States of America is supposed to be a role model. How would you feel if some little kid looked up at you and said "When I grow up I want to grab girls pussy just like he does." Makes me sick to my stomach to think he is leading the greatest country on Earth.

Since I reached level 7 I have become part of a oversight type group g.

Seeker55 comments on Apr 24, 2018:

I am approaching level 6. I find this “level” system interesting. Do you automatically become part of the over sight group? Or is there a choice to opt in or not? I think I would like the choice if I reach level 7.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

@Seeker55 That's the feeling I get, and they really seem to appreciate my input. The group is important to me, so by default keeping the website going is important to me, but they don't need to know that.

I don't expect pro gun people to believe me, but the NRA is lying to you.

GipsyOfNewSpain comments on Apr 26, 2018:

They are liars but honestly.... they are conditioned to be lied to.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

They are pounding it into their members that we want to get rid of all guns and repeal the 2nd amendment

What’s your favorite euphemism for ?

MikeFlora comments on Apr 26, 2018:

The Ridiculous Fool and his merry band of idiots. If he had shit for brains it would be a major improvement.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

@Freedompath He brings out the cringe in me.

I don't expect pro gun people to believe me, but the NRA is lying to you.

Sofabeast comments on Apr 26, 2018:

An interesting thing this 2nd Amendment. It was set up to bring down the cost of the National defence, following independence. If every man can be called to arms quickly to fight off the indigenous people or us British, it would save the cost of a standing army. However, over time, weapons have ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

If our founding fathers had wanted everybody to have as many guns as they want, the 2nd amendment would just say" the right of the people to own firearms shall not be infringed" saying anything other than that says they intended some type of limitations.

I don't expect pro gun people to believe me, but the NRA is lying to you.

Shawno1972 comments on Apr 26, 2018:

The NRA takes the extreme and unreasonable-seeming position simply because most people who want gun control *do* actually want a gun-free country even if they won't admit it. The NRA is waging combat against an ever-growing nanny state. While I am not necessarily a fan of the NRA, I don't mind the ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

You need to stop believing the NRA bullshit. I do NOT want a gun free country. I own guns. The 2nd amendment isn't going anywhere, it's practically impossible to repeal an amendment if I wanted to, and I don't

Another win for our side When Dick’s Sporting Goods said it was going to stop selling ...

Woodron comments on Apr 26, 2018:

I don't like Dick's, they just seem like one more big mega chain. That being said, I will start shopping there, I would rather give a chain store my money over a tiny independent, if our beliefs line up.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

I got that off the NRA website.

This is off topic, but I think you will like it.

MikeFlora comments on Apr 26, 2018:

Ronald Reagan.” (George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all won bigger margins in the Electoral College.) Feb. 16 “That’s the other thing that was wrong with the travel ban. You had Delta with a massive problem with their computer system at the airports.” (Delta's problems ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

@Seeker55 The very thing that Abraham Lincoln was worried about when he wrote the Gettysburg address has come to pass, Gov't of the people, by the people, for the people has perished from this this earth. When the Republican party wouldn't allow the electoral college republicans to change their votes to reflect the popular vote(which they could have done) they put their Republican party before the people and the country. They told 2.9 million people they didn't give a rat's who they voted for, we're going to put Trump in the Whitehouse anyway. After 250 yr.s we have a president the majority of the people did not want to be president, and he is not doing what the majority of the people want him to do. He is not a good man

This comes straight from the NRA website, The former president’s statement was a lie when he ...

wowspring comments on Apr 26, 2018:

Paranoid, much? I can pick apart some of their claims just from common knowledge. Others, I would have to look up but why bother? There are too many fallacies in this piece to count. Yeesh!

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

This came straight from the NRA website.

Anybody here incensed about the Windrush Generation cop-out.

MikeFlora comments on Apr 25, 2018:

What's a Windrush Generation?

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

@jacpod sorry

Rewrite the "Academic (e.g. science)" category?

MikeFlora comments on Apr 25, 2018:

Aren't the groups kind of taking away from the discussion topics. I find that I spend most of my time within my groups and seeing what other groups there are, and what they are talking about, and the discussion topics are more of an afterthought. No offense to anyone, this is just how I see it, ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

@phxbillcee this is just ideas, what about academic science thing academic just seems off science is enough

Face facts, America, Donald Trump is a success. Let's count the ways. [usatoday.com]​

Rugglesby comments on Apr 24, 2018:

You are the 2nd or 3rd person on this forum I have seen say as much. I can't comment, I don't know enough of US Politics, he seems to have had a win over Kim the haircut challenged. I am so against his attitude to the environment, he is almost as bad as our last PM.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

@gater The leaders of every country on the planet, besides us, has now signed it. It has been ratified by 147 countries. You really think Trump knows more than the majority of people in 147 countries. You didn't really believe that Trump was going to make America great again for you, did you? He's making America great again for him and his buddies, period.

Face facts, America, Donald Trump is a success. Let's count the ways. [usatoday.com]​

Trajan61 comments on Apr 24, 2018:

Yes I agree he doing good so far. I just wish more of the Republicans would get behind him instead of fighting him and siding with the democrats. If they would do that he could get a lot more done. Also it’s very discouraging that the liberals on the main forum of this website curse him so much ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

@gater I wood love to be able to ignore all the stupid shit he has done.

Rewrite the "Academic (e.g. science)" category?

MikeFlora comments on Apr 25, 2018:

Aren't the groups kind of taking away from the discussion topics. I find that I spend most of my time within my groups and seeing what other groups there are, and what they are talking about, and the discussion topics are more of an afterthought. No offense to anyone, this is just how I see it, ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

@phxbillcee I think we do, it's called community senate, take some suggestions, and vote on it, then make recommendations to admin, for final say-so. We should encourage feedback from members, and tweek stuff from there.

More lies, anyone?

Emme comments on Apr 25, 2018:

I love how he thinks nobody is going to bust him out on his shit. And he just keeps doing the same stupid stuff over & over like he's not gonna get caught. And he gets caught every time. He's insane & delusional and DANGEROUS!

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

Want to see some more? Jan. 21 “I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq.” (He was for an invasion before he was against it.) Jan. 21 “A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine.” (Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.) Jan. 23 “Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.” (There's no evidence of illegal voting.) Jan. 25 “Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive.” (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.) Jan. 25 “Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)” (The report never mentioned voter fraud.) Jan. 25 “You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore.” (The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.) Jan. 25 “So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.” (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.) Jan. 26 “We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them. They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers. How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have no papers? How do you vet them? You can't.” (Vetting lasts up to two years.) Jan. 26 “I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours, and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better.” (Most of the cuts were already planned.) Jan. 28 “The coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost has been so false and angry that the Times actually apologized to its dwindling subscribers and readers.” (It never apologized.) Jan. 29 “The Cuban-Americans, I got 84 percent of that vote.” (There is no support for this.) Jan. 30 “Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning. Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage.” (At least 746 people were detained and processed, and the Delta outage happened two days later.) Feb. 3 “Professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters are proving the point of the millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” (There is no evidence of paid protesters.) Feb. 4 “After being forced to apologize for its bad and inaccurate coverage of me after winning the election, the FAKE NEWS @nytimes is still lost!” (It ...

Since I reached level 7 I have become part of a oversight type group g.

Seeker55 comments on Apr 24, 2018:

I am approaching level 6. I find this “level” system interesting. Do you automatically become part of the over sight group? Or is there a choice to opt in or not? I think I would like the choice if I reach level 7.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

@Seeker55 This is from the Community Senate group Categories, better choices and better titles, instead of just a lot of choices. I said "academic" should be dropped, and the topic just say "Science", and the groups were probably taking focus away from the discussion topics How strict , enforcing guide lines. my opinion was,that keeping the conversation going was more important than guide lines, within reason What to do to assholes insulting posts, bullying, and picking on people My opinion was let the receiver of the shitty post deal with it first.. Setting up Senate chatroom from 6 to 8 pm. .This was the L7N group Introduction's,and the point system, and how fast the site is growing That's about it.

Rewrite the "Academic (e.g. science)" category?

MikeFlora comments on Apr 25, 2018:

Aren't the groups kind of taking away from the discussion topics. I find that I spend most of my time within my groups and seeing what other groups there are, and what they are talking about, and the discussion topics are more of an afterthought. No offense to anyone, this is just how I see it, ...

MikeFlora replies on Apr 26, 2018:

@TheMiddleWay To me, better choices, is better than, a lot of choices

Face facts, America, Donald Trump is a success. Let's count the ways. [usatoday.com]​

gater comments on Apr 24, 2018:

Although I know facts arent real popular with the left.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 25, 2018:

@gater where to start, OK This is just the first 3 months and only 1 lie per date Jan. 21 “I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq.” (He was for an invasion before he was against it.) Jan. 23 “Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.” (There's no evidence of illegal voting.) Jan. 25 “Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive.” (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended. Jan. 26 “We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them. They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers. How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have no papers? How do you vet them? You can't.” (Vetting lasts up to two years.) Jan. 28 “The coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost has been so false and angry that the Times actually apologized to its dwindling subscribers and readers.” (It never apologized.) Jan. 29 “The Cuban-Americans, I got 84 percent of that vote.” (There is no support for this.) Jan. 30 “Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning. Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage.” (At least 746 people were detained and processed, and the Delta outage happened two days later Feb. 3 “Professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters are proving the point of the millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” (There is no evidence of paid protesters.) Feb. 4 “After being forced to apologize for its bad and inaccurate coverage of me after winning the election, the FAKE NEWS @nytimes is still lost!” (It never apologized.) Feb. 6 “I have already saved more than $700 million when I got involved in the negotiation on the F-35.” (Much of the price drop was projected before Trump took office.) Feb. 7 “I saved more than $600 million. I got involved in negotiation on a fighter jet, the F-35.” (The Defense Department projected this price drop before Trump took office.) Feb. 9 “Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen. Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term lie about his brave ‘service’ in Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!” (It was part of Cuomo's first question.) Feb. 10 “I don’t know about it. I haven’t seen it. What report is that?” (Trump knew about Flynn's actions for weeks.) Feb. 16 “Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because of our various plans and initiatives.” (The jobs are a result of its investment plans announced in Oct. 2016.) .) Feb. 16 “We had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban. But we had a bad ...

More lies, anyone?

Emme comments on Apr 25, 2018:

I love how he thinks nobody is going to bust him out on his shit. And he just keeps doing the same stupid stuff over & over like he's not gonna get caught. And he gets caught every time. He's insane & delusional and DANGEROUS!

MikeFlora replies on Apr 25, 2018:

@erixon He is the poster child for why animals eat their young.

is dropping out again, anybody else having that problem?

Petter comments on Apr 25, 2018:

I see other people's posts where I have to mentally add in the missing thin(gs) but I personally have no problem. Weird, ain't it? Does fat, or fatty also suffer?

MikeFlora replies on Apr 25, 2018:

Although it turned the lower case i to upper case because of the spaces

is dropping out again, anybody else having that problem?

Petter comments on Apr 25, 2018:

I see other people's posts where I have to mentally add in the missing thin(gs) but I personally have no problem. Weird, ain't it? Does fat, or fatty also suffer?

MikeFlora replies on Apr 25, 2018:

No, just t h i n

Anybody interested in some spalted maple, I can go 12" wide and maybe 3 1/2 feet long

HoaryMarmot comments on Apr 25, 2018:

We not exactly a huge group as of yet to post spalted maple boards to those who may want it but who knows... Cheers! And best of luck.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 25, 2018:

Just checking

Anybody here incensed about the Windrush Generation cop-out.

MikeFlora comments on Apr 25, 2018:

What's a Windrush Generation?

MikeFlora replies on Apr 25, 2018:

@jacpod Sounds like he's related to Trump.

Face facts, America, Donald Trump is a success. Let's count the ways. [usatoday.com]​

gater comments on Apr 24, 2018:

Although I know facts arent real popular with the left.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 25, 2018:

The man has told over 2000 lies since he took office, you need to get your facts straight.

Trump is having a State Dinner, for France's Macron and only one Democrat and no journalist are ...

doug6352 comments on Apr 24, 2018:

News bulletin: Trump won the 2016 election. Live with it. Do you invite your worst enemies to dinner? I thought not.

MikeFlora replies on Apr 25, 2018:

he didn't win shit, he stole it. He has the title, but it doesn't mean anything, because he didn't earn it. We are all Americans, Democrats have as much right to represent this country as anybody else. You aren't really sticking up for that sorry son of a bitch are you?

is dropping out again, anybody else having that problem?

bingst comments on Apr 25, 2018:

Did you mean "thin" is dropping out again? Or a different set of letters?

MikeFlora replies on Apr 25, 2018:

Yeah, I mean t h I n

I get the feeling that interest may have waned here, because I have been concentrating on a assault ...

Sheumais comments on Apr 25, 2018:

You need to check your post,the g and 2gs . What?

MikeFlora replies on Apr 25, 2018:

@Sheumais Not a clue, apparently it comes and goes.