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I couldn't say anything the other day, because it wouldn't have worked if I did.
SACatWalker comments on Mar 11, 2018:
I like the way you think. Mike.
MikeFlora replies on Mar 11, 2018:
The point here is to actually make something happen. Narrowing it down to one thing is the best way to do that, in my opinion.
I couldn't say anything the other day, because it wouldn't have worked if I did.
sassygirl3869 comments on Mar 11, 2018:
I agree-assault weapons first makes sense.
MikeFlora replies on Mar 11, 2018:
I really think we are asking for to much. Narrowing it down to one thing will make it easier to get it done.
Who here is interested in actually doing something to get assault weapons off the street?
Kris725 comments on Mar 11, 2018:
There are marches happening all over the country this month. I'm attending one in my city. I have also written to my representatives and encouraged my friends to do the same. I bought t-shirts for the march. The proceeds go to the student survivors in Florida. I've donated some. Not sure what else I...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 11, 2018:
We need to come together as a group. Everybody with the same message. Enough people and we don't need Washington. Enough people can put enough pressure on suppliers to get them to stop dealing in assault weapons without laws or bans, but we have to have big numbers of people all saying the same time. There are over 300 million people in this country, just 10% is 30 million people. 1 person in 10 spreading the same message is all we need.
No civilian needs a AR-15.
Dick_Martin comments on Mar 9, 2018:
How about this compromise? Weapons are OK to be owned but have to be lockered safely at your officially sanctioned gun club, including the ammo. The gun clubs will have courses and ranges, plus private rooms for sexual manifestations with your gun, at your leisure. Weapons for hunting can be checked...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 9, 2018:
It is but it'll never work gun nuts will never agree
No civilian needs a AR-15.
JackPedigo comments on Mar 9, 2018:
The 2nd amendment can be used to support gun regulation and to support gun owners. it is not clear and everyone interprets the way that benefits them. Even the Supreme Court ruling stated the amendment was open to regulation (which we never hear). Even history has supported regulation. Too many ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 9, 2018:
There is really nothing to interpret here. If the 2nd amendment meant everybody have a gun then you don't need a militia. Most people back then couldn't afford a gun and powder and shot that's what the militia was for, made up of people who could afford a gun, powder and shot. The way it is written says it's for militia, ask any English teacher.
Ever notice the ammosexuals(luv the term) always talk about all the other things that kill people ...
Lancer comments on Mar 8, 2018:
I suppose the reason they give is the 2nd amendment. Which most people don't understand or choose not to understand. The 2nd amendment was made with the intention of allowing all civilians to possess the same weapons as the government and military. Governments have killed millions of people ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 9, 2018:
@Lancer Getting assault weapons banned is not pointless, and that's how I'm going to do it.
Ever notice the ammosexuals(luv the term) always talk about all the other things that kill people ...
Lancer comments on Mar 8, 2018:
I suppose the reason they give is the 2nd amendment. Which most people don't understand or choose not to understand. The 2nd amendment was made with the intention of allowing all civilians to possess the same weapons as the government and military. Governments have killed millions of people ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 9, 2018:
Do you really believe that shit, none of it is true. Nobody needs a AR-15, you can't be that damn dumb!
Have you seen this guy before? [facebook.com]
MikeFlora comments on Mar 8, 2018:
No, and I could have lived a good life without ever seeing him. Thanks for that. You do know you can't unsee shit, right?
MikeFlora replies on Mar 8, 2018:
@phxbillcee My ammosexuals post didn't go over well either
Have you seen this guy before? [facebook.com]
MikeFlora comments on Mar 8, 2018:
No, and I could have lived a good life without ever seeing him. Thanks for that. You do know you can't unsee shit, right?
MikeFlora replies on Mar 8, 2018:
@phxbillcee so i see, its all good. This is a serious subject, and I take it seriously. I just got to have a little fun from time to time
Ever notice the ammosexuals(luv the term) always talk about all the other things that kill people ...
Jesusluvsu comments on Mar 8, 2018:
Your rhetoric is low brow and it’s not conducive to sharing argument. You name call and put the other side down, but you don’t really listen. I thought you started this group inviting all people to have an honest discussion? You have opened up welcoming posts to new members with a reminder to...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 8, 2018:
@Hugh Just venting everything is back to normal
Chernobyl, I have seen that several different kinds of animals are genetically changed from that ...
jlynn37 comments on Mar 8, 2018:
Would you provide a link to a source that mentions genetically changed animals at Chernobyl?
MikeFlora replies on Mar 8, 2018:
I've seen several stories about changes in both plants and animals
Do You Know What Time You Were Born?
MikeFlora comments on Mar 8, 2018:
I was born at 7:38pm Friday March 13th, 1964
MikeFlora replies on Mar 8, 2018:
@flowerchild62 explains a lot
Ever notice the ammosexuals(luv the term) always talk about all the other things that kill people ...
Lancer comments on Mar 8, 2018:
I suppose the reason they give is the 2nd amendment. Which most people don't understand or choose not to understand. The 2nd amendment was made with the intention of allowing all civilians to possess the same weapons as the government and military. Governments have killed millions of people ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 8, 2018:
The 2nd amendment was written so people in state militias could have weapons that's all.
I have one question for all you inbred rednecks that think more guns is the answer to all problems.
Jesusluvsu comments on Mar 8, 2018:
Mike - I have to call you out on how you write your posts! Inbred rednecks?! C’mon, I think you’re better than that! I take it that you’re angry at the state of politics over guns in this country. I get it. I’m sick of gun violence too, but posts like this are playing right into the ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 8, 2018:
your right, but damn it felt good
I have one question for all you inbred rednecks that think more guns is the answer to all problems.
Jesusluvsu comments on Mar 8, 2018:
Mike - I have to call you out on how you write your posts! Inbred rednecks?! C’mon, I think you’re better than that! I take it that you’re angry at the state of politics over guns in this country. I get it. I’m sick of gun violence too, but posts like this are playing right into the ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 8, 2018:
No it's not, but damn it felt good
Have you seen this guy before? [facebook.com]
MikeFlora comments on Mar 8, 2018:
No, and I could have lived a good life without ever seeing him. Thanks for that. You do know you can't unsee shit, right?
MikeFlora replies on Mar 8, 2018:
@phxbillcee That was a joke, I'll take all the help I can get. He reminds me of a gay Pee Wee Herman
BIRMINGHAM, Ala.
Dick_Martin comments on Mar 8, 2018:
Why was there a gun legally on school property?
MikeFlora replies on Mar 8, 2018:
Good question
Ever notice the ammosexuals(luv the term) always talk about all the other things that kill people ...
Jesusluvsu comments on Mar 8, 2018:
Your rhetoric is low brow and it’s not conducive to sharing argument. You name call and put the other side down, but you don’t really listen. I thought you started this group inviting all people to have an honest discussion? You have opened up welcoming posts to new members with a reminder to...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 8, 2018:
Fighting fire with fire. I ask them to be civil and I get sarcastic insults and lies time after time. This is the first time I have gone on the offensive. It's the truth, less the insults, it is what they do, and in my opinion, how they think. You're right as host I should take the high road, and I have, and I will, but damn that felt good giving them a taste of their own medicine for a change.
[m.facebook.com] ???? ATTN: - This 17-year-old's powerful message to our elected...
Dick_Martin comments on Mar 6, 2018:
Emma Gonzales is the avatar of the next generation The avatar of the next great wave of justice reform in America.
MikeFlora replies on Mar 7, 2018:
The girl in the video is Delany Tarr.
Guns.
Tominator comments on Mar 6, 2018:
I am very pro conceal carry and very anti assult weapon. The conceal carry is effective against the criminal. An assault rifle not nearly as convenient and seems like rediculous overkill. I have to imagine the folks who need these are expecting a Steven Seagal movie to erupt in their back yard any ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 6, 2018:
@Piece2YourPuzzle Some of his first movies actually had a message like "On Deadly Ground" message about pollution/
64 members since Dec 29th, I guess that's pretty good, we are gonna need a hell of a lot more if we ...
SamKerry comments on Mar 5, 2018:
I don't remember Groups being available back in Dec 29. Nevermind. But, I agree with you - even if I have no stake in this debate: I'm not in the U.S. I agree with you that protests and other forms of peaceful activism is required. But more importantly, vote. Vote your elected ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 6, 2018:
@SamKerry Our election process is the problem to most of our problems, and there are no easy answers to fix it.
If you make it through the entire article I applaud you.
Teslacoilsmith comments on Mar 6, 2018:
And for the record, I am glad Billy Graham is dead.
MikeFlora replies on Mar 6, 2018:
little harsh to say you're glad someone's dead say you're not sorry their gone doesn't make you out as a total hater
Here are some stats that I put together about 98 mass shootings from 1982-2018 Shooters 2 ...
Dick_Martin comments on Mar 5, 2018:
A couple of points. First and foremost... ?? "... that I put together ..." ??? Looks to me like Mother Jones put it together. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map/ Secondly, this is a subset of a much larger data set. These cases are limited: "the motive ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 6, 2018:
@Dick_Martin Everybody has a stake in people dying, especially when they die because of where they happen to be standing. It doesn't matter where you are that's just wrong.
Here are some stats that I put together about 98 mass shootings from 1982-2018 Shooters 2 ...
Dick_Martin comments on Mar 5, 2018:
A couple of points. First and foremost... ?? "... that I put together ..." ??? Looks to me like Mother Jones put it together. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map/ Secondly, this is a subset of a much larger data set. These cases are limited: "the motive ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 6, 2018:
Mother jones had the facts on the shootings, I just did the math and the counting
I'll bet that 90% of members posting in this discussion have never held much less owned a firearm.
RavenCT comments on Mar 4, 2018:
Responsible gun owner here. Assault weapon means high capacity - rapid fire - probably high caliber.
MikeFlora replies on Mar 6, 2018:
@RavenCT That's what I was talking about. I was wrong there is another round for those guns that has less powder behind it and it does tumble when it hits the body
64 members since Dec 29th, I guess that's pretty good, we are gonna need a hell of a lot more if we ...
NM_RN comments on Mar 5, 2018:
There are gun enthusiasts that have literally threatened to kill gun control activists. I probably would show up for such a protest if I didn't have kids who depend on me for everything. As it stands, I appreciate those who put themselves in harm's way, but I have to be more careful at this stage of...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 6, 2018:
I am 54, never married, no kids that I am aware of, only family I have is my dad and he lives with me, I can't be bought, I can't be intimidated, I don't have anything to hide, I'm no angel it's just the stuff I've done I don't care if people know and most people won't care. I don't have the slightest problem saying if you don't like what I'm doing kiss my ass.
64 members since Dec 29th, I guess that's pretty good, we are gonna need a hell of a lot more if we ...
SamKerry comments on Mar 5, 2018:
I don't remember Groups being available back in Dec 29. Nevermind. But, I agree with you - even if I have no stake in this debate: I'm not in the U.S. I agree with you that protests and other forms of peaceful activism is required. But more importantly, vote. Vote your elected ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 6, 2018:
2.9 million more people voted for Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump and you see who's in the Whitehouse don't you. Getting the most votes doesn't mean you automatically win the election.
A Liberal Friend asks this Question.....
Paul628 comments on Mar 5, 2018:
Before you answer that question, answer this one. Would you like to be an unarmed black teacher running away from the cops during a school shooting?
MikeFlora replies on Mar 5, 2018:
@MikeInBatonRouge Being unarmed don't mean a thing, cops shoot unarmed blacks all the time on you tube
Something's not right in Kansas; [patheos.
gearl comments on Mar 5, 2018:
I'm hoping that the generation now nearing adulthood is well represented by those students in Florida and that they vote and they vote against all the bull shit that the GOP stands for.
MikeFlora replies on Mar 5, 2018:
What it is, is none of their fucking busines
WTF!!!!! What's Wrong With This Picture?
Paul628 comments on Mar 5, 2018:
And yet they're all pussies. ;)
MikeFlora replies on Mar 5, 2018:
@JackPedigo What?
I'll bet that 90% of members posting in this discussion have never held much less owned a firearm.
RavenCT comments on Mar 4, 2018:
Responsible gun owner here. Assault weapon means high capacity - rapid fire - probably high caliber.
MikeFlora replies on Mar 5, 2018:
@Francoise The bullet doesn't tumble it explodes. High velocity rounds go so fast they explode on contact. That plus cavitation is what makes the massive amount of damage. If you get shot in the liver it destroys the whole organ.
I'll bet that 90% of members posting in this discussion have never held much less owned a firearm.
Lancer comments on Mar 4, 2018:
You know what's funny. By saying "Guns Kill" we are personifying the weapon, giving it human qualities. Since if we say "Guns kill" we could also say "Guns run" or "Guns hunt" since we have already applied the verb "killing" to the gun, why stop there? Reason, because if we used the correct ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 5, 2018:
@Trajan61 You also need to be careful, this is my group and debate is open to everybody, sarcastic insults are not. I see that word liberal one more time and I'll block both of you. You still don't understand. How many people do you think that lunatic in Las Vegas would have killed lobbing Molotov Cocktails out of his hotel room. You say all we want to do is take law abiding citizens guns away again and you're both history. I've told all you assholes a thousand times I don't give a rat's ass how many guns you have, and other than assault weapons, I don't give a fuck how many kinds of guns you have. Stop spreading lies about what we want to do!!! Truth is I'm dropping the part about high capacity magazines. All I want is military style weapons. I'm not kidding, debate is welcome, telling lies and sarcastic insults are not. We don't do this shit to you other than the dude that calls you guys ammosexuals , and I'm not going to say anything to him because I think it's funny as hell. You want to continue debating you side of the argument, be civil and stop spreading lies about what we want to do. I know people are going to kill people nothing I can do about that, but I can do something about collateral damage.
I'll bet that 90% of members posting in this discussion have never held much less owned a firearm.
rustythorn comments on Mar 4, 2018:
Combat vet here, sure it was kind fun to play with various guns while in the service but then I got out and matured a little. there is little to no reason for most people to have a gun. self-defense? what about tasers, pepper spray, extendable batons, etc... hunting? you don't need a ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 5, 2018:
@Francoise 2.9 million more people voted for Hillary Clinton than voted for Donald Trump. You see who's in the Whitehouse don't you. It worked for 250yrs, but now the person with the most votes is not guaranteed to win the election.
64 members since Dec 29th, I guess that's pretty good, we are gonna need a hell of a lot more if we ...
JackPedigo comments on Mar 5, 2018:
Does be more positive mean to pray more? We have long past the point of sitting idly by while the gun nuts continue to run amok. Often extreme measures take extreme means. At least our side is doing this non-violently unlike the other side. There are lots of measures we can take and I posted one ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 5, 2018:
The guy is a old friend he just meant be more positive thinking. I don't think we need to wait for the law. I want to take it straight to the source put 500 people in gun store parking lots and get it on the 6'o clock news. The NRA can't do a damn thing about this we put 500 people in gun store parking lots all the NRA can do is watch it on TV. This is the first of March in all likely hood there will be at least 2 or 3 more shootings by the end of the year. Do we watch it happen and do nothing waiting on something we know isn't gonna happen or do we do something and try to make a difference.
Here are some stats that I put together about 98 mass shootings from 1982-2018 Shooters 2 ...
Dick_Martin comments on Mar 5, 2018:
A couple of points. First and foremost... ?? "... that I put together ..." ??? Looks to me like Mother Jones put it together. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map/ Secondly, this is a subset of a much larger data set. These cases are limited: "the motive ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 5, 2018:
NRA talks about everything else but the guns. I just showed you the only thing constant in 98 mass shootings is the weapons. Assault weapons and handguns account for 90% of these 98 mass shootings. Like it or not regulating or banning is the only effective way to reduce mass shootings. How do we introduce this information in a way that people can understand and be effective?
Here are some stats that I put together about 98 mass shootings from 1982-2018 Shooters 2 ...
Dick_Martin comments on Mar 5, 2018:
A couple of points. First and foremost... ?? "... that I put together ..." ??? Looks to me like Mother Jones put it together. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map/ Secondly, this is a subset of a much larger data set. These cases are limited: "the motive ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 5, 2018:
Just the opposite gun control is only thing that will work. Access to weapons is the only way to slow down mass shootings. Mostly white males only half had mental issues but over 3/4 acquired guns legal 13 schools but 27 workplace and 38 other places The only constant is the weapons
I'll bet that 90% of members posting in this discussion have never held much less owned a firearm.
Lancer comments on Mar 4, 2018:
You know what's funny. By saying "Guns Kill" we are personifying the weapon, giving it human qualities. Since if we say "Guns kill" we could also say "Guns run" or "Guns hunt" since we have already applied the verb "killing" to the gun, why stop there? Reason, because if we used the correct ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 4, 2018:
You need to be careful here, this is my group and debate is welcome here, sarcastic insults are not! You need to get your facts straight, the gun is not responsible for the shooting, it's the number of victims that the gun is absolutely responsible for and that's the problem. Weapons of mass murder don't belong on the streets of America
So what do you do with 3ft of snow and 146mph wind. If you can't answer that don't go to Tahoe
SACatWalker comments on Mar 3, 2018:
I think this was misplaced. Has nothing to do with guns.
MikeFlora replies on Mar 3, 2018:
It doesn't I host the group and just put it out there. 3ft of snow and 146mph winds aren't normal.
Dispersed throughout the seven school buildings in this rural Ohio district outside of Dayton are ...
SamKerry comments on Mar 2, 2018:
Is this what this post is about? https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/01/us/armed-teachers-guns-schools.html
MikeFlora replies on Mar 2, 2018:
yes it is
It's not a inconvenient truth it's a diversion.
Druvius comments on Mar 1, 2018:
The NRA is drenched in blood.
MikeFlora replies on Mar 1, 2018:
Figuratively, just like Charles Manson.
Okay, so a friend sent me a greeting with the words, "Oh what a beautiful morning, "O what a ...
evidentialist comments on Mar 1, 2018:
@Admin -- we have something of a formatting problem when it comes to poetry. It can be gotten around, but at expense of space. Can it be fixed, or is that asking too much? I know it's a bother, so if you decide against messing with it, I do understand.
MikeFlora replies on Mar 1, 2018:
It' the theme song for "Oklahoma" sung by Gordon MacRae. Beautiful song, great singer, one of my favorite musicals, next to "Paint Your Wagon". Having said that, I like your version also, and considering the politics going on in this country right now, it is quite fitting in more ways than one.
It's not a inconvenient truth it's a diversion.
RavenCT comments on Mar 1, 2018:
I got called some names when I explained to some folks (FB naturally) that this is a circular argument. Also that abortion saves women's lives. Also that women die in childbirth. I'm still not over it. Thankfully one old friend stepped in - then another - and another (all men?). I had ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 1, 2018:
The way John Kelly puts it, Planned Parenthood is doing something wrong. When what they do is 100% legal. NRA not taking any taxpayer money doesn't mean they aren't doing anything wrong.
Walmart and Dicks sporting no longer selling assault weapons
Tecolote comments on Mar 1, 2018:
Money talks. Yesterday my money said thanks to Dick's Sporting Goods.
MikeFlora replies on Mar 1, 2018:
All mine ever says is goodbye
Time to say welcome to the latest batch of new members.
Matt13 comments on Mar 1, 2018:
There is something seriously wrong with some people... Mass blessings of AR-15's in churches...give me a break!. They say guns aren't the problem, society has the problem.... Simple don't let society have them. People have a right to have guns for sure, but I definitely don't think that they should ...
MikeFlora replies on Mar 1, 2018:
That's the whole point of this group.
Walmart and Dicks sporting no longer selling assault weapons
GipsyOfNewSpain comments on Feb 28, 2018:
Exactly.
MikeFlora replies on Mar 1, 2018:
That's my thinking if D.C. won't do anything then we will.
Ok people, I'm writing a piece on "what is a assault weapon and why it should be banned" and I ...
TerriCity comments on Feb 27, 2018:
(from the League of Women Vioters website) Gun Safety Fact Sheet: Assault Weapons Assault weapons are designed to kill humans quickly and efficiently. They have been the weapons of choice in some of America’s most horrific mass shootings, including those at the Orlando Pulse nightclub, Virginia ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 27, 2018:
These are weapons of war they should never been legal to begin with.
Ok people, I'm writing a piece on "what is a assault weapon and why it should be banned" and I ...
AgnoJer comments on Feb 27, 2018:
I'm not pro or anti gun, but my view is that trying to control weapons is like trying to ban any means to make fire. pretty futile! So, that said, perhaps another approach may work better like identifying and reducing or getting rid of what causes people to misuse "fire" or "firearms". I don't label...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 27, 2018:
I am the exact opposite, I don't think there is any way to find all of the lunatics in this country. I am talking about controlling just one type of weapon. I'm talking about weapons of war, weapons designed and built for the sole purpose of killing and maiming as many people as possible as fast as possible. These weapons should never been legal from the beginning.
Ok people, I'm writing a piece on "what is a assault weapon and why it should be banned" and I ...
273kelvin comments on Feb 27, 2018:
A worthy piece I am sure but from this side of the pond it seems far too tame. US liberals are pussies compared to the European left. The campaign should be to repeal the 2nd amendment. Go for the jugular. I know its sounds untenable but then so many other things have been. Universal civil rights ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 27, 2018:
No way in hell trying to repeal the 2nd amendment is even remotely possible. Getting assault weapons banned is going to be hard to do. It was the 21st amendment, it repealed the 18th amendment which was prohibition of alcohol in 1919.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS! I' NOT GOING TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT THINKS THE ANSWER TO...
GrantSmith comments on Feb 27, 2018:
We're speaking two different languages. When it comes to the debate. We're trying to discuss a solution and their cult leaders are screaming that we're trying too disarm them.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 27, 2018:
I have said time after time, I don't give a rat's ass how many guns people have or what kind they are other than assault weapons, and they are still trying rip me to pieces every time I turn around.
The hypocrisy is so in-your-face and insulting.. NRA had this at a NRA function.
MikeFlora comments on Feb 27, 2018:
Anything to stir up shit.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 27, 2018:
I am talking about what that stupid sign says.
I'm doing a piece called " What is a Assault Weapon and Why Should They be Banned" to make it ...
JackPedigo comments on Feb 27, 2018:
The gun lovers seem to be quiet. They have their own little group and know they would be out shouted if commenting on ours. I don't understand all the problems with an assault weapons ban. It was done before why is it so hard to have it done now? Maybe the gun industry has become so strong they ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 27, 2018:
I can't tell you why exactly, but for some reason watching a school carry out a mass shooter drill really messed with me. It's the kind of thing you should see in a 3rd world country, not here.
I'm doing a piece called " What is a Assault Weapon and Why Should They be Banned" to make it ...
Dick_Martin comments on Feb 27, 2018:
You are dealing with Bumper Sticker mentalities. Their attention span is pretty short. Your go-to audience is Donald Trump, who can not read an entire paragraph, let alone 10 pages.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 27, 2018:
I always say they hold pep rally's and speak in slogans
Deadliest U.
Francoise comments on Feb 27, 2018:
I think that is a low estimate. It does not take into account that THREE WOMEN have been killed by guns used by their spouses/significant others EVERY DAMN DAY for decades!! We are losing over 1,000 women every year to gun nuts!
MikeFlora replies on Feb 27, 2018:
It is low, but it's still to high, it should never have been allowed to get that high.
Impeachment? Impeachment! Impeachment… – Wordology
aplaceintime comments on Feb 25, 2018:
People like green atheist need to educate themselves before spouting off the faux news propaganda. If you can find something Hilliary did wrong please inform someone in congress because after using milions of your money they didn't find shit. For someone as ignorant as you are to be calling someone ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 27, 2018:
The absolute worst thing you can call a woman is cunt, unless you like getting clawed from ear to ear.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS! I' NOT GOING TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT THINKS THE ANSWER TO...
BitFlipper comments on Feb 27, 2018:
I share your outrage, but what country can we go to? Most European countries think of us Americans as uncivilized louts, and insist that we bring a boat load of money - which I for one don't have.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 27, 2018:
I'm not going to let them turn us into the wild west. I'm not going anywhere!!!
Ok people, I'm writing a piece on "what is a assault weapon and why it should be banned" and I ...
Silver1wun comments on Feb 26, 2018:
The most fundamental 'good advice', besides knowing good spelling and grammar, for a writer is 'write about what you know'. If you know little, as you admit here about your topic, maybe another more familiar one could enable a successful outcome. Advocacy must have persuasive power that comes ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 27, 2018:
The only part that I wasn't well versed in was the damage these weapons do. The idea is to show these weapons have no practical use. One bullet alone does an enormous amount of damage, think about how much damage a bunch of bullets would do. That kind of thing
I'm doing a piece called " What is a Assault Weapon and Why Should They be Banned" to make it ...
GipsyOfNewSpain comments on Feb 26, 2018:
Be aware that the nra pundit will claim there is no such thing as an assault weapon. "Quote" AR-15-platform rifles are among the most popular firearms being sold. They are today's modern sporting rifle. The AR in “AR-15” rifle stands for ArmaLite Rifle, after the company that developed it in the...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 27, 2018:
That's why I used the definition from the 1994 weapons ban. When I the conclusion to my piece I looked it up, You can buy a AR-15 from Rural King for $379.99
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS! I' NOT GOING TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT THINKS THE ANSWER TO...
kmdskit3 comments on Feb 26, 2018:
Not sure if I want to stay here either...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 27, 2018:
I'm not going anywhere. They are not going to turn this country into the wild west
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, The Late Show... [youtube.com]
JackPedigo comments on Feb 26, 2018:
We have reached a tipping point. Every additional shooting, and there will be more, will only add to the urgency to stand up to the greed, cowards in our legislature and citizenry. Too bad this is coming from a religious person but perhaps it will get more of the religious to listen. I also see ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 26, 2018:
I've got a whole different argument for that. I'm doing a thing about assault weapons. I'll get back to you shortly.
The Truth About Assault Weapons
MikeFlora comments on Feb 24, 2018:
Same old bullshit gun lovers have been spewing. My favorite is the argument about it being used in only 2% of the crimes. I don't want banned because it is only used 2% of the time. I want it banned because almost all of the 2% is mass shootings. That's the truth.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 25, 2018:
@dahermit Assault weapons are not protected by the 2nd amendment which means they can be banned. The federal appeals court upheld Maryland's ban on 45 types of military style weapons. I intend to see as much of the rest of the country follow suit.
Impeachment? Impeachment! Impeachment… – Wordology
GreenAtheist comments on Feb 25, 2018:
WordMike is stupid and wrong. ...Mueller has no authority to impeach any Judge or President. ...the 2016 election is 100% true 31 states elected TrumpOLINI 19 states wanted Billary rewarded for her secrecy law crimes her collusion with Russia her treason selling and profiting selling uranium to ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 25, 2018:
The 2016 election is not true 2.9 million more people wanted Clinton to be President over that asshole Trump. This country was founded on the premise of Gov't of the people, by the people, for the people. The people wanted Clinton. Trump might have the title, but it doesn't mean anything because he didn't earn it. Only a coward would take a title he didn't earn.
Just to be clear here, a federal appeals court says assault weapons are not protected by the 2nd ...
SACatWalker comments on Feb 25, 2018:
Good point that I hadn't heard until now, but it's probably lost on gun nuts. I'm sure they interpret things to fit their agenda.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 25, 2018:
Maryland has banned 45 models of assault weapons and the appeals court up held the ban.
Just to be clear here, a federal appeals court says assault weapons are not protected by the 2nd ...
GipsyOfNewSpain comments on Feb 25, 2018:
A few here will have a Heart Attack... how you dare to post that lie!!!! fake news!!! he, he, he, ha, he.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 25, 2018:
If I hear fake news one more time...
For your consideration, please, discuss.
MikeFlora comments on Feb 25, 2018:
Well, I actually saw Kansas perform that song, along with dust in the wind, point of no return song of America and a lot of other good songs. They were a really good band, great musicians and awesome harmonies. If you like the way these guys do it you might not want to hear it from the original ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 25, 2018:
@Athropos I am 53 years old and it was a long time ago.
Just to be clear here, a federal appeals court says assault weapons are not protected by the 2nd ...
RavenCT comments on Feb 25, 2018:
Now with studies forbidden by the Government I wonder what facts they used? And BTW I agree with that.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 25, 2018:
The court ruling states 'weapons of war' are not protected under the US Constitution. D.C. v Heller
The Truth About Assault Weapons
MikeFlora comments on Feb 24, 2018:
Same old bullshit gun lovers have been spewing. My favorite is the argument about it being used in only 2% of the crimes. I don't want banned because it is only used 2% of the time. I want it banned because almost all of the 2% is mass shootings. That's the truth.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 25, 2018:
@dahermit More than half of all mass shooters had high capacity magazines, assault weapons or both, according to Mother Jones. I'm not anti-gun, just weapons designed and built to kill or maim as many people as possible as fast as possible. I'm not going to argue with you, a federal appeals court ruled assault weapons are not protected by the 2nd amendment.
I would like to saw Welcome to all the new members.
Jesusluvsu comments on Feb 25, 2018:
While I totally agree that access to guns is a major part of the problem, I think we have to be careful here on what we allow from our audience. It all depends on what the purpose of this forum is. Are we going to welcome dissenters to argue here so as to create a dialogue, or are we going to shut...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 25, 2018:
All that I ask is to be civil. Everybody's opinion is welcome here.
If we're serious about drawing distinctions between "acceptably dangerous" and "unacceptably ...
Dick_Martin comments on Feb 23, 2018:
As a middle-ground starting point can we add into the possible solutions the idea of gun clubs, like golf clubs. No one balks at the idea that gofers can't just whang away in shopping mall parking lots. We could have gun clubs and guns can be owned, but they must be kept at the club, under lock ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 25, 2018:
@Dick_Martin Oh no not you again! Just joking you and I have said our piece and agree to disagree.
With all the chatter regarding the 2nd amendment, I can see a broad range of interpretations ...
Druvius comments on Feb 23, 2018:
The only people arguing about the interpretation of the second amendment are either ignorant or disengenuous. Heller vs DC 2008, the 2nd amendment is an individual right. So there's no need to change the constitution, and the ammosexuals needn't worry about the government seizing everyone's guns. ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 25, 2018:
It's fear mongering same thing preachers do, the world is going to end tomorrow to keep things fired up and people not paying close attention to exactly what they are saying.
With all the chatter regarding the 2nd amendment, I can see a broad range of interpretations ...
Nilkin67 comments on Feb 24, 2018:
The second amendment does not give the right to bear arms, it affirms it. The right is an inalienable right as stated in the Declaration of Independence. And yes gun ownership is a potent deterrent to tyranny, even in the US. Anyone who says otherwise is oblivious of history and should do some ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 25, 2018:
You are full of shit to. The declaration of independence is not law, you can't use it in a court of law. The inalienable rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It doesn't even say you have the right to be happy only to pursue it. There isn't a damn thing in there about guns.
I'm a college professor and for the past 10 years, I've noticed and my colleagues have as well, that...
Dick_Martin comments on Feb 24, 2018:
The kids I see don't fit that mold. Ambitious, hard driving, bright, adaptable, and clear-headed. I have no deep concerns for America's future, if we can survive the present.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 25, 2018:
@Dick_Martin I was in school 40 years ago. My 35th reunion is this year, so I would have been in the 7th grade. The late '70's and early '80's were a different time, way different. For one thing we had a smoking block after lunch there was area outside the cafeteria were we could smoke cigarettes. The drugs of the time were pot and LSD, and alcohol of course. Pot wasn't a big deal. You could smell it around the school bathrooms most of the time, the teachers and principal didn't make a big deal out of it. I got caught by the cops more than once and just took my pot and told me to go home. There was very little violence and I don't remember anybody taking guns to school. No gang fights no serious bulling going on. Just about everybody partied, I was a jock played football and wrestled, most of my team mates partied also. There was none of this bullshit no tolerance going on either, If a teacher or principal tried to suspend somebody over a butter knife in a pickup truck bed, they would have been looking for a new job the next day. I never saw one single elementary school kid get handcuffed ever. They left us the hell alone to be kids and I learned a lot and had great time. Maybe it's not the students fault they are the way they are. I like I said it was a different time, I almost forgot we wore shorts to school also.
I would like to saw Welcome to all the new members.
Francoise comments on Feb 24, 2018:
There should be NO private sales of weapons! There should be NO gun show sales w/o full background checks! There should be NO sales of high velocity WMDs! There should be NO weapon sales w/o a 10 day wait period! There should be NO sales of ANY weapon to anyone who has EVER committed a violent ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 24, 2018:
We banned lawn darts?
Does this look familiar?
Leon comments on Feb 24, 2018:
Forgive me, but I’m failing to see the point? James
MikeFlora replies on Feb 24, 2018:
Religion flames the fire of ignorance and when mixed with fear turns into hate.
Good guy with a gun... [facebook.com] Thanks to @wotsthat!
GipsyOfNewSpain comments on Feb 24, 2018:
Seen it... still funny. I wish they would had included "the good guy with a gun running away from the establishment". Or the smoking gun in the floor nobody claims ownership of.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 24, 2018:
I agree
GOP Congresswoman Claims Many Mass Shooters 'End Up Being Democrats' The Republicans get crazier by...
Lauren comments on Feb 24, 2018:
Although previously considered a gross generalization (and I usually don't care for generalizations), I'm beginning to suspect that there's not a sane member of the Republican party left. And the ones that are sane are so corrupt that they can't even see it anymore. :'(
MikeFlora replies on Feb 24, 2018:
@JackPedigo Good point
Porn vs Guns, The Daily Show...g:60 [youtube.com]
SACatWalker comments on Feb 24, 2018:
Best comedic commentator. Oh wait, there's Jon Oliver too. Can't stop watching 'em.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 24, 2018:
Big fan of John Oliver.
Trump Wants More Guns In Schools, The Late Show...g:60 [youtube.com]
GipsyOfNewSpain comments on Feb 24, 2018:
What else to expect from trump? give them a bonus... trump always throw money at a problem... it is just not his money after all.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 24, 2018:
He just thought they would line up behind him to get their guns. Having shit for brains would be an improvement.
Am I the only one who continually almost kills himself driving down the road fumbling with my seat ...
Lilith comments on Feb 23, 2018:
You still have a beeper?
MikeFlora replies on Feb 23, 2018:
He's talking about the fasten seatbelt alarm sound.
It's becoming clear to me that once again nothing is going to change, not really.
marmot84 comments on Feb 23, 2018:
Don't give up. I think this time things might be different. The Kids are fighting back. These Florida kids are smart and dedicated. This thing made a huge impression on them and they will fight for their rights in a way that can galvanize the population to act. My intuition says that this time ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 23, 2018:
Just makes me that much more determined, but sad also.
Wanna see gun laws change overnight?
Sapiotocracy comments on Feb 22, 2018:
As much as I agree that would probably get the ball rolling, I hate what it implies about who we are as a culture.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 23, 2018:
@HighSteelRangr What's a snowflake?
We don't have to wait on Congress to do something, there's stuff we can do ourselves.
JackPedigo comments on Feb 23, 2018:
I have in the past and still do donate to 2 gun control groups. Right now one good thing is to get on the bandwagon protesting the insanity of the gun culture in this country and not listen to the worn out ideas from the self-serving and cowardly crowd. Our county bans rifles for hunting. Most ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 23, 2018:
If we could get one place to ban assault weapon's, I think it would make it easier to get it done in other places.
This is what the bill in 1994 did All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine ...
JackPedigo comments on Feb 23, 2018:
Why is the idea of banning these kinds of weapons so hard to get across to the general public?
MikeFlora replies on Feb 23, 2018:
I wish I knew, 'cause if I knew I might be able to change it.
Why a civilian should not be allowed to own a assault rifle.
Lovecraft comments on Feb 22, 2018:
whats an assault rifle?
MikeFlora replies on Feb 23, 2018:
Watch a war movie, the guns the soldiers are carrying are assault weapons.
Do the Math
DJVJ311 comments on Feb 22, 2018:
Math is wrong... by alot... 77 X 6=462 (462 X $300)+(462 X $100) ($138,600)+($46,200) = $184,800
MikeFlora replies on Feb 23, 2018:
@DJVJ311 I think the point here is it's to damn expensive.
Correct me if I'm wrong but...
Condor5 comments on Feb 22, 2018:
I don't know if they "believe the crap" or not. The people I speak of are people whom I've known over my lifetime who never threatend me with eternal damnation. Even the dozens of Mormons I worked with in Utah never proseletyzed to me. My good friends who have professed Christianity never pressed me...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 23, 2018:
@Condor5 My best friend is very religious, and he knows what I believe when he's at my house he plays it down and when I am at his house I play down what I believe. I would never do anything to insult his beliefs.
Progressives the time has come to do something now! We have seen the Constitution betrayed by a ...
MikeFlora comments on Feb 22, 2018:
The phone calls and emails have not worked so far. Protesting downtown hasn't done much either. I say we put about a thousand people in front of every Senator and Congressman's house.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 23, 2018:
@bingst No I'm talking about putting a thousand people in front of every senator and congressman's to protest. The same stuff they were doing in town only now in front of their house were they can't miss it.
The Daily Show... [youtube.com]
MikeFlora comments on Feb 22, 2018:
What do you call it when the kids act like adults and the adults act like kids? everyday in America.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 23, 2018:
@GipsyOfNewSpain That is part of what I am doing here. Show young people that there are adult role models that do the right thing for the right reason.
MASSILLON, Ohio — Authorities say an Ohio seventh-grader who police said brought a gun to school ...
Annaleda comments on Feb 22, 2018:
Link?
MikeFlora replies on Feb 22, 2018:
@Annaleda Sorry, I'll send it to you as soon as I find it again. http://www.sacbee.com/
Want a gun? Mug a teacher! [patreon.com]
SACatWalker comments on Feb 22, 2018:
That's the first thing I thought, too. Such a bad idea.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 22, 2018:
More guns is never the answer to anythingf
I didn't start this group just to talk about gun control.
Wrytyr comments on Feb 22, 2018:
I have shared this elsewhere and now I will share it here. These are my nine suggestions for new gun control laws. I know that not everyone will agree with these and that's fine. You can go create your own new laws, these are mine and whom ever else agrees that changes need to be made to LIMIT ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 22, 2018:
Number 3 and 7 I'll never get enough people to agree to them. The rest is possible to some degree.
The Daily Show... [youtube.com]
MikeFlora comments on Feb 22, 2018:
What do you call it when the kids act like adults and the adults act like kids? everyday in America.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 22, 2018:
@phxbillcee That's also part of what I am doing, showing kids there are some adults that actually act like adults, and do the right thing for the right reasons
To be honest I never thought about it before, because it's something nobody should ever have to ...
GipsyOfNewSpain comments on Feb 21, 2018:
Mental health will be blamed and nothing will be done and the motherfuckers with guns will feel safe at home. I had posted it before... brother in law a former ex-con that died in November... while checking his large amount (ridiculous amount even for a New Yorker) of coats. I found in a leather ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 22, 2018:
This country was founded on the principle; Gov't of the people, by the people, for the people. we have to do something. I refuse to let those kids in fla. down.
I think we need to say how sorry we are to all of the people and families directly affected by ...
GipsyOfNewSpain comments on Feb 21, 2018:
What are we going to tell the next one... and the next one... and the next one... a 7th grader just shot himself allegedly yesterday in a school bathroom, died today. Somebody else will die, this week, next week. the week after. Are we gonna run out of "sorry" as a christian runs out of prayers? ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 22, 2018:
If we don't do something about it the next one we will be partly to blame
It is up and running, we now have a gofundme campaign.
RavenCT comments on Feb 21, 2018:
What will the campaign be paying for? (I'll look for an earlier post). Perhaps I missed it.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 22, 2018:
Mostly ads there are over 350 million people in this country properly motivated there's nothing we can't do. There are no free rides if we don't do something to stop it the next one will be on us.
MASSILLON, Ohio — Authorities say an Ohio seventh-grader who police said brought a gun to school ...
Annaleda comments on Feb 22, 2018:
Link?
MikeFlora replies on Feb 22, 2018:
copy and paste
To be honest I never thought about it before, because it's something nobody should ever have to ...
CeciRosane60 comments on Feb 21, 2018:
Is happening since that college campus in Texas in the late 60's....How many more who knows...until the NRA is stopped? until we get a real congress and president? ...the answer my friend is blowing in the wind....
MikeFlora replies on Feb 21, 2018:
That was Charles Whitman and he wasn't using a assault weapon, and he was using a sniper rifle not that it makes a difference. You are right that should have been the end of mass shootings
I look at the kids and parents of this last school shooting and think if we don't make something ...
phxbillcee comments on Feb 21, 2018:
Okay, I won't tell you, but not so far. It CAN be done, other countries have done it, even if not to the extent we'd have to go to here, but it can be done, & it has to be!
MikeFlora replies on Feb 21, 2018:
I just found out today that some schools are having mass shooter drills. That is unacceptable.
I want to thank Gypsyofnewspain for all the useful information on gun buybacks, buyups.
Trajan61 comments on Feb 19, 2018:
Hell Gipseyofnewspain wants to confiscate all guns. Is that what you want? I get upset with the liberal gun control folks who always want to go after the guns of law abiding citizens every time some idiot goes on a shooting spree.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 20, 2018:
@Trajan61 I don't give a rats ass what liberals or anybody else thinks. I'm doing what I think is the right thing to do, and so far it looks like there are enough people that agree with me, that what liberals think doesn't matter.
A poem about the Universe and Belief and our part in the Cosmos (Posted as a reply I don't see a ...
Tesseract comments on Feb 20, 2018:
Sorry, it's weird not having a place to put a title. I chip away at this thing from time to time and it has become quite long but I hope you enjoy it. I started it in 2013 and have revised it 4 times :) (ok I wasn't expecting this but I just put in another part after I posted this so there's ...
MikeFlora replies on Feb 20, 2018:
How long did it take you to type all that?
I want to thank Gypsyofnewspain for all the useful information on gun buybacks, buyups.
Trajan61 comments on Feb 19, 2018:
Hell Gipseyofnewspain wants to confiscate all guns. Is that what you want? I get upset with the liberal gun control folks who always want to go after the guns of law abiding citizens every time some idiot goes on a shooting spree.
MikeFlora replies on Feb 20, 2018:
Military style weapons, high volume magazines and bump stocks, that's all

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