Since religion is given a tax-free status, why not give science a tax-free status?

Word comments on Oct 10, 2020:

People don't need tax free science, people need tax free everything in life. Education to the fullness of all knowledge, understanding, wisdom, skill, craft, trade and college certification of any kind free from taxation, free from tuition, free from loans, free from any fees.

Moravian replies on Oct 10, 2020:

So you want free education. So how are you going to fund it ?

I had a priest carry out an exorcism on my house. I didn't pay the bill and it has been repossessed

Boomtarat03 comments on Oct 7, 2020:

_Lols 😅😅😅 at least give the "donation"_😂

Moravian replies on Oct 7, 2020:

That's the spirit

Where Did 'White Jesus' Come From? | On the Media | WNYC Studios

Moravian comments on Oct 4, 2020:

Because the paintings were done in Europe and obviously the models used were local caucasians

Moravian replies on Oct 5, 2020:

@rainmanjr Possibly because "white" is good and "black" is evil and the white Europeans were probably racist anyway but does it really matter ?

So, during the covid lockdown we gave my 93yo mum a smartphone and hooked her up to fb and messenger...

Willow_Wisp comments on Oct 4, 2020:

I had family that I would humor so they could be comfortable in their delusions. My Grandmother for example who died convinced that fire came from a substance called phlogiston. *** The phlogiston theory is a superseded scientific theory that postulated the existence of a fire-like element ...

Moravian replies on Oct 4, 2020:

Is this something to do with spontaneous combustion. ? I remember a few cases where burnt out bodies were found with no obvious source of the fire.

IMO, humans came up with the idea of a soul and a life after death when we started becoming aware of...

Storm1752 comments on Sep 30, 2020:

Yes, but as a free agent, I can choose to believe anything I want, if it makes me feel better, irrespective of the facts. Add to that great evidence exists there is a continuation of the 'soul' beyond this one lifetime, then as an agnostic I have to keep an open mind. Since there is no 'concrete' ...

Moravian replies on Oct 4, 2020:

@Storm1752 https://www.livescience.com/7737-reality-reincarnation.html Good old Bridey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6fWUA6_odc Combine it with being a Martian, even better

IMO, humans came up with the idea of a soul and a life after death when we started becoming aware of...

Storm1752 comments on Sep 30, 2020:

Yes, but as a free agent, I can choose to believe anything I want, if it makes me feel better, irrespective of the facts. Add to that great evidence exists there is a continuation of the 'soul' beyond this one lifetime, then as an agnostic I have to keep an open mind. Since there is no 'concrete' ...

Moravian replies on Oct 3, 2020:

@Storm1752 I thought it was obvious.The "soul" must have thoughts and memories of the original person or the whole thing is a bit pointless. Alzheimers destroys the memories of the sufferer leaving a pathetic shadow of the original person and you are suggesting that this is reincarnated or enters eternal life ?. Both sad and cruel to suggest such a thing. Of course if I misunderstand what you mean by an afterlife please enlighten me,

Oasis.

Theresa_N comments on Oct 2, 2020:

Never heard of them, not bad. As you say, a lot of British imagery.

Moravian replies on Oct 2, 2020:

Never heard of Oasis, Blur, Britpop ?. Huge in the 1990's

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Marionville comments on Oct 2, 2020:

I remember wee Jackie! He sang this one too... https://youtu.be/bddHLZZ91GU

Moravian replies on Oct 2, 2020:

I don't remember him at all but that song is certainly an improvement on his hit La Dee Dah, unless it was meant to be a parody on the current pop terms.

IMO, humans came up with the idea of a soul and a life after death when we started becoming aware of...

Storm1752 comments on Sep 30, 2020:

Yes, but as a free agent, I can choose to believe anything I want, if it makes me feel better, irrespective of the facts. Add to that great evidence exists there is a continuation of the 'soul' beyond this one lifetime, then as an agnostic I have to keep an open mind. Since there is no 'concrete' ...

Moravian replies on Oct 2, 2020:

@Storm1752 I think "sceptic" is putting it a bit mildly. Psychics are mostly charlatans who prey on bereaved people and "crop circles " ? Are you serious.?. I don't know if you have had anyone close to you die from the effects of Alzheimers. I have. To see a confident,intelligent ,articulate person gradually deteriorate to a mere shell without the ability to comprehend or even speak and finally die because the brain can no longer control breathing is horrible. To those who think there is some sort of afterlife I would suggest that it would be particularly cruel in a case like this or do they think there is a backup of memories in the "cloud" ;-)

IMO, humans came up with the idea of a soul and a life after death when we started becoming aware of...

Storm1752 comments on Sep 30, 2020:

Yes, but as a free agent, I can choose to believe anything I want, if it makes me feel better, irrespective of the facts. Add to that great evidence exists there is a continuation of the 'soul' beyond this one lifetime, then as an agnostic I have to keep an open mind. Since there is no 'concrete' ...

Moravian replies on Oct 1, 2020:

@rainmanjr Wishfull thinking I'm afraid. All thoughts, memories, and emotions are created in and stored in the brain and when it dies and degrades they are gone forever.

IMO, humans came up with the idea of a soul and a life after death when we started becoming aware of...

Storm1752 comments on Sep 30, 2020:

Yes, but as a free agent, I can choose to believe anything I want, if it makes me feel better, irrespective of the facts. Add to that great evidence exists there is a continuation of the 'soul' beyond this one lifetime, then as an agnostic I have to keep an open mind. Since there is no 'concrete' ...

Moravian replies on Sep 30, 2020:

Of course you can believe anything you want but it would be interesting to hear some of this evidence you mention.

Did you know that the Irish are a very inventive and innovative people?

Moravian comments on Sep 27, 2020:

And you are laughing at the Irish ? ;-) I notice kill the sky fairy didn't expand on her inane comment but just out of interest I checked to see the relative Nobel prizes awarded to the citizens of Ireland and the USA. Ireland has 11 and the USA has 383. As they say in the USA "you do the math"

Moravian replies on Sep 28, 2020:

@Triphid Ha ha.Yes the photo was taken from a site selling comedy clothing but it was the only thing I could find to reply on behalf of the Irish although they perfectly capable of doing that themselves.They can laugh at themselves with their Kerry man jokes as well It was Killtheskyfairies comment that annoyed me. An American calling the Irish stupid ? ffs.

I had to post this because of the effect it had on Facebook.

Moravian comments on Sep 25, 2020:

Jesus ?. Looks like Ewan McGregor

Moravian replies on Sep 27, 2020:

@Joanne He does seem to be attractive to the opposite sex. I haven't seen many of his films. I can't stand Star Wars, but I have followed his motorcycle adventures with Charlie Boorman with interest. I was looking forward to watching the film of his latest trip from the tip of South America to Los Angeles on an electric Harley only to find that it is being broadcast by Apple TV. Grrr. We pay £150 a year for a TV licence and more and more is on Apple and Netflix.

I had to post this because of the effect it had on Facebook.

Moravian comments on Sep 25, 2020:

Jesus ?. Looks like Ewan McGregor

Moravian replies on Sep 27, 2020:

@ThisIsPatrick ;-) ;-)

Did you know that the Irish are a very inventive and innovative people?

Killtheskyfairy comments on Sep 25, 2020:

Do the Irish have any famous scientists you can name? I can’t think of any and they always seem so stupid to fight about which made up fairy tale is the best🤡

Moravian replies on Sep 26, 2020:

Your comment is much funnier than the "joke". I think you need a history lesson

I had to post this because of the effect it had on Facebook.

Moravian comments on Sep 25, 2020:

Jesus ?. Looks like Ewan McGregor

Moravian replies on Sep 26, 2020:

@ThisIsPatrick Come on, we hold Ewan McGregor in high regard here for his success as an actor but to give him divine status is going a bit too far,

Today's hike: East Cascade Mountain Foothills.

LiterateHiker comments on Sep 24, 2020:

@RoyMillar, @Larimar, @BestWithoutGods, @Fit50something, @gemini1947, @Dhiltong, @PadraicM, @anglophone, @Mitch07102, @bobwjr, @Buddha, @happyhiker1, @Holysocks, @NoMagicCookie, @freefromgod, @RichCC You'll laugh at this. With no cover (you can see for miles) there was no place for a lady to pee....

Moravian replies on Sep 25, 2020:

@RoyMillar The traditional kilt is made from heavy material which would be a bit warm in summer but cosy in winter. I once saw a guy hiking the West Highland Way in a kilt and commented to him that he was a brave man with the number of midges around. His reply was "They wouldnae dare". I suppose the answer is to have a powerful curry the night before and create your own midge repellent system.

The Self-Attribution Fallacy [monbiot.com]

callmedubious comments on Sep 22, 2020:

such hard lives. yet they keep breeding like rabbits. Schopenhauer is right.

Moravian replies on Sep 25, 2020:

@callmedubious Very true, but when I see stories of ultra religious families in Israel and the bible belt in America having upwards of nine children I shake my head in despair. We constantly hear of the perils of overpopulation and yet countries like Japan with a low birth rate and an aging population and no real history of immigration are struggling, and the govt. in Hungary are offering tax breaks to families that have four children. We live in a crazy world.

I don’t ever copy and paste other people’s statuses.

Theresa_N comments on Sep 24, 2020:

What gets me is all the celebrities in Great Britain who are coming out against masks and social distancing.

Moravian replies on Sep 24, 2020:

@Fernapple Me too. I wonder who they are. I am sure Theresa will enlighten us

The Self-Attribution Fallacy [monbiot.com]

callmedubious comments on Sep 22, 2020:

such hard lives. yet they keep breeding like rabbits. Schopenhauer is right.

Moravian replies on Sep 24, 2020:

A sadly uninformed comment. If most of the children die due to poverty and the lack of health care and there is no social security blanket to care for old people then of course they are going to have more children. As a country becomes wealthier the birth rate tends to fall.

Dogs. Woof woof.

FrayedBear comments on Sep 23, 2020:

It must be American dogs & owners - no manners & no taste.

Moravian replies on Sep 24, 2020:

The first one isn't so funny outside the USA where women aren't normally called bitches.

But Papa, Why...

glennlab comments on Sep 22, 2020:

She needs to expand her reading base, but the main reason is there are as many catholics as there re muslims, then you have all the other christian denominations. Also most people don't know enough about islam to make funny jokes.

Moravian replies on Sep 23, 2020:

Try telling that to Charlie Hebdo

What make one decide whether there is s God or not?

Moravian comments on Sep 19, 2020:

Read the Torah. That should be enough.

Moravian replies on Sep 20, 2020:

@genessa Actually it may be easier to prove that unicorns didn't exist as there would no doubt be some fossil evidence if they did ;-)

What make one decide whether there is s God or not?

Moravian comments on Sep 19, 2020:

Read the Torah. That should be enough.

Moravian replies on Sep 20, 2020:

@genessa Sorry. I stand corrected. I misinterpreted your comment"That does not prove there are no gods " As for what the Jewish people did or still do called their god or gods is not really important as they were an invention anyway.

What make one decide whether there is s God or not?

Moravian comments on Sep 19, 2020:

Read the Torah. That should be enough.

Moravian replies on Sep 20, 2020:

@genessa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh Time you got correcting wikipedia then. If you want to believe that there are supernatural beings floating around that is entirely up to you but I don't

What make one decide whether there is s God or not?

Moravian comments on Sep 19, 2020:

Read the Torah. That should be enough.

Moravian replies on Sep 19, 2020:

@genessa Since the poster mentioned god, not gods and is American it is almost certain that they were referring to Yaweh the Jewish god and if anyone reads the old testament and does not accept that it is all make believe then they are not really paying attention. As for this or any other gods existing I would as soon believe in Bertrand Russel's teapot circling the earth.

Atheist read the Bible, Christians go to church to have the Bible read to them...

Word comments on Sep 17, 2020:

99% of Christians are atheist that lie and say they are Christians. So then the majority of atheist have the bible read to them, only a few read it for themselves. Then, those atheist that claim to read the bible must be illiterate or lie about reading the bible. The bible says people are ...

Moravian replies on Sep 18, 2020:

@Word Good, that's a start

Atheist read the Bible, Christians go to church to have the Bible read to them...

Word comments on Sep 17, 2020:

99% of Christians are atheist that lie and say they are Christians. So then the majority of atheist have the bible read to them, only a few read it for themselves. Then, those atheist that claim to read the bible must be illiterate or lie about reading the bible. The bible says people are ...

Moravian replies on Sep 18, 2020:

So you believe everything you read then ?. What a strange world you live in.

I guess today is "Ask an Atheist Day." Is anyone else inviting people to ask?

PBuck0145 comments on Sep 17, 2020:

Why do atheists embrace leftist dogma?

Moravian replies on Sep 18, 2020:

Do you mean that they are more likely to have a social conscience ?

Disbelieve it or not, ancient history suggests that atheism is as natural to humans as religion | ...

Moravian comments on Sep 14, 2020:

Sounds reasonable but the early Christians were persecuted not for their beliefs but for refusing to worship the Roman gods so forced obedience was there before monotheism became the norm.

Moravian replies on Sep 17, 2020:

@Triphid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Roman_Empire#:~:text=The%20persecution%20of%20Christians%20in,of%20Milan%20in%20313%20AD. Yes I was just reiterating my comment in my first post. Persecution of Christians was not as widespread as they would like you to believe, Being thrown to the lions etc, but it did happen

Disbelieve it or not, ancient history suggests that atheism is as natural to humans as religion | ...

Moravian comments on Sep 14, 2020:

Sounds reasonable but the early Christians were persecuted not for their beliefs but for refusing to worship the Roman gods so forced obedience was there before monotheism became the norm.

Moravian replies on Sep 16, 2020:

@Triphid The desecration of the Aboriginal sites by Rio Tinto Zinc has been widely reported here. I saw it compared to the Taliban's destruction of Buddhist monuments but the Christians were doing this long before anyone else. The book I mentioned lists in great detail how they tried to erase the classical world of Rome and Greece.

Disbelieve it or not, ancient history suggests that atheism is as natural to humans as religion | ...

Moravian comments on Sep 14, 2020:

Sounds reasonable but the early Christians were persecuted not for their beliefs but for refusing to worship the Roman gods so forced obedience was there before monotheism became the norm.

Moravian replies on Sep 15, 2020:

@Triphid This was in Rome, not in the greater empire. Of course when the Christians took over their persecution of the "pagans" was much worse. Read Catherine Nixey's book "The darkening age (the Christian destruction of the classical world). I used to think that the missing noses from Roman statues was due to wear and tear over the centuries but it was done deliberately by the early Christians. Philistines ;-)

Who governs us?

HippieChick58 comments on Sep 11, 2020:

This is old, it happened in the past 10 years or so. I loathe Monsanto. My ex's dad worked for Monsanto as a chemical engineer. My children's inheritance is largely funded by Monsanto, and they aren't fans of Monsanto either.

Moravian replies on Sep 12, 2020:

I recall using the herbicide 2,4,5,T , the infamous "agent orange" from Vietnam when I worked in forestry which I believe was manufactured by Monsanto; Also in common use back then were 2.4,D and glyphosate. We were told they were harmless and no protective gear was supplied. I wouldn't go near any of them now.

Who governs us?

AnneWimsey comments on Sep 11, 2020:

If that farmer was growing "organic" he would have been the one suing, for contamination/loss of the "organic" label. Do you have the right to let your chickens graze your neighbor's lawn, or harvest their crops,or even mow their lawn? You can only trim their invasive trees/bushes/vines to the ...

Moravian replies on Sep 12, 2020:

IT is the first time I have heard the story and it shows the power and influence of Monsanto that the court should even entertain such a ridiculous claim. The fact that it took the farmer years to have it rejected speaks volumes.

Atheism is not a philosophy; it is not even a view of the world; it is simply an admission of the ...

kensmile4u comments on Sep 11, 2020:

I wish I had a dollar for every time an atheist posted one of these virtue signaling statements derived from one of their Horsemen. This social media site (Agnostic.com) stands as evidence that thought boundaries exist which need labeling to facilitate civil discourse.

Moravian replies on Sep 12, 2020:

@kensmile4u fair enough but what was this all about then. "All known math breaks down in a singularity of spacetime." ? I don't usually get involved in these pointless discussions but I do object to someone suggesting that I am less virtuous than the many so called "agnostics" who populate this site

Atheism is not a philosophy; it is not even a view of the world; it is simply an admission of the ...

kensmile4u comments on Sep 11, 2020:

I wish I had a dollar for every time an atheist posted one of these virtue signaling statements derived from one of their Horsemen. This social media site (Agnostic.com) stands as evidence that thought boundaries exist which need labeling to facilitate civil discourse.

Moravian replies on Sep 11, 2020:

@kensmile4u There is an old Scottish saying "Facts are cheils that winna ding". It roughly means that facts are things that will not let you down.But what was a fact a hundred years ago may not be a fact now as we learn more about the universe. However there is not one fact that supports the existence of any god or intelligent design. Trying to introduce quantum physics is a red herring I notice time and time again that the opinion of people posting on here has obviously been coloured by earlier Christian indoctrination. I prefer to look back before the Jews became monotheist to when we have the earliest record of the worship of gods either by written record or the interpretation of burial methods or symbols left by the people. WE do not knot what happened before the big bang or single cell life originated on earth but we have a pretty good idea of the rest. No gods are needed.

Atheism is not a philosophy; it is not even a view of the world; it is simply an admission of the ...

kensmile4u comments on Sep 11, 2020:

I wish I had a dollar for every time an atheist posted one of these virtue signaling statements derived from one of their Horsemen. This social media site (Agnostic.com) stands as evidence that thought boundaries exist which need labeling to facilitate civil discourse.

Moravian replies on Sep 11, 2020:

@kensmile4u In this context surely it is obvious that non belief means not having a belief in the existence of any gods or supernatural entities. So what are you implying then ?

Atheism is not a philosophy; it is not even a view of the world; it is simply an admission of the ...

kensmile4u comments on Sep 11, 2020:

I wish I had a dollar for every time an atheist posted one of these virtue signaling statements derived from one of their Horsemen. This social media site (Agnostic.com) stands as evidence that thought boundaries exist which need labeling to facilitate civil discourse.

Moravian replies on Sep 11, 2020:

So you are implying that non believers are not virtuous ?

Homeschool religion

Moravian comments on Sep 10, 2020:

Why do you homeschool ? I don't know anyone who home schools their children here but it seems to be quite common in the USA.

Moravian replies on Sep 10, 2020:

@whiskywoman Good on you. That is quite a responsibility. Not something I would care to do.

What do you guys think about last night's missile attack on our military at Iraq from Iran?

moosepucky comments on Jan 8, 2020:

If the attacks continue, I hope trump does not follow Carter in not addressing the combined house and Senate to ask for a declaration of war. War has many faces. It unites, solidifies resolve. There is much more to war than guns, boots, and bombs. A complete blockade (air, sea, land, ...

Moravian replies on Sep 9, 2020:

ffs. I hope you are trying to be ironic

Does the evidence for reincarnation prove (at least some kind of) 'god' exists?

Lightupmylife comments on Sep 8, 2020:

This is interesting https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/ian-stevensone28099s-case-for-the-afterlife-are-we-e28098skepticse28099-really-just-cynics/

Moravian replies on Sep 9, 2020:

So I wonder when the memories jump into the new baby. It can't be at conception as there is not yet a brain. Is it sometime before birth ?. The memories are hanging around on some sort of celestial memory stick ?. There must be another explanation. Probably the child heard the story of the previous person on TV or radio and remembered it.

A facebook friend posted this.

RoboGraham comments on Sep 2, 2020:

I'd like to hear what your thoughts on it were. Here's mine 1) We don't need to legislate the wealthy out of prosperity to legislate the poor into prosperity. There is enough for all. 2) Okay, true but what's wrong with that. People give without receiving all the time. We do it for our ...

Moravian replies on Sep 3, 2020:

Very well put

A facebook friend posted this.

Fred_Snerd comments on Sep 2, 2020:

Galatians 6:2 - Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. Acts 4:32-35 - And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any [of them] that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. ...

Moravian replies on Sep 2, 2020:

But like many so called Christians she is probably not too conversant with the above.

Christian Group Seeks Removal Of Dinosaur From Tucson McDonald's | Tucson, AZ Patch

PondartIncbendog comments on Sep 1, 2020:

"Christian Group demands removal of Birds from the sky".

Moravian replies on Sep 2, 2020:

Chairman Mao tried that. It didn't work out too well

Chew on this for a while, then tell us what you think. [patheos.com]

Heavykevy1985 comments on Aug 30, 2020:

Other than being underage with a firearm, he has every right to defend himself.

Moravian replies on Aug 31, 2020:

Have you any idea how ridiculous your comments appear to people living in civilised countries ?

Cant make this up

Moravian comments on Aug 28, 2020:

Not true. I understand that the 17 year old has been charged with murder.

Moravian replies on Aug 30, 2020:

@Freedompath Well said. And if they are not shot they are put in prison

The choices this time are so depressing, I might just sit this one out. 🙄🍷

Archeus_Lore comments on Aug 29, 2020:

First, I myself will not vote for candidates who are war criminals, who support Zionists in the country of Palestine, which they have invaded, (as I look at it, any candidate that is supporting what the Zionists are doing IS a war criminal). I will not support illegal wars on countries that are not ...

Moravian replies on Aug 30, 2020:

I think you should emigrate

Blasphemy: Kano court sentences 13 year old boy to 10 years in jail

Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 21, 2020:

Every people deserves the government they're stupid enough to accept. As an American I earned the right to say that over the last four years.

Moravian replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@Bobby9 My original reply was to Willow_Wisp who thinks that because she is American she is entitled to call Nigerians stupid. She tends to put comments on here with no follow up so are you her spokesman now ? The people in the north of the country are unfortunate to live in a virtual Islamic theocracy but in the Christian south they have mega churches and pastors with private jets that would outclass those in the USA so maybe both countries are lacking common sense.

Man, incorrect spelling is a great pet peeve.

Cyklone comments on Aug 22, 2020:

Not to mention we're, were, and where. I tolerate the fact that you yanks can't spell, 😉 but English speakers who get things like to and too wrong grate on my nerves, especially when it's on a billboard or other sign. Or seen recently, "the management requests that you refrain from not eating ...

Moravian replies on Aug 29, 2020:

How about "loose" instead of "lose". I don't understand why that is so common.

Blasphemy: Kano court sentences 13 year old boy to 10 years in jail

Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 21, 2020:

Every people deserves the government they're stupid enough to accept. As an American I earned the right to say that over the last four years.

Moravian replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@Bobby9 Understanding and compassion not your strong points then ?

Cant make this up

Moravian comments on Aug 28, 2020:

Not true. I understand that the 17 year old has been charged with murder.

Moravian replies on Aug 29, 2020:

@Freedompath I am well aware of the situation in the USA and to a lesser extent in the UK regarding the treatment of black people and it needs to change but I question whether rioting and setting fire to buildings is the way to change it. A 17 year old gets an assault rifle and shoots some protesters. Well the schools are closed so what else could he do ?. Apparently it was not his rifle so where did he get it ?.The gun culture that is endemic in the country must be partly to blame and when ordinary people feel this way about the police there is something seriously wrong.

Cant make this up

Moravian comments on Aug 28, 2020:

Not true. I understand that the 17 year old has been charged with murder.

Moravian replies on Aug 28, 2020:

@Mofo1953, @Freedompath I am not condoning anything. Maybe I am being a bit pedantic but on reading Robert Reich's post it would appear that the teenager got away with murder which is not the case. The post is not dated so how would anyone know if it was said before the kid was arrested. Sure I am a foreigner commenting on happenings in America but the news channels her report every little happening in the USA. I have heard Trumps nauseating voice so much I have to turn the sound off when he appears on the screen. I am all for peaceful protests but the looting and riots are just playing into Trump's hands. Are people not aware of that? At a glance it would appear that the police are trigger happy racist psychopaths, so why do some black men act in a way that gets themselves shot. Running away or struggling with a knife is not healthy. Do they want to be martyrs ?.

Why do Atheist like to talk about God so much?

Moravian comments on Aug 28, 2020:

If you mean on this site it wouldn't be much of a conversation as there are very few "atheists" here. As many of the members here appear to be struggling to come to terms with their Christian indoctrination it is not surprising that religion is a common topic.

Moravian replies on Aug 28, 2020:

@David1955 Out of interest I checked the profiles of people who follow my posts. Why they do I don't know but out of 16. 8 are agnostics,7 are atheist and i is a believer. More atheists than I would have thought' I have read several posts by people who are struggling to overcome Christian indoctrination. One of the first people to block me was a lady who was upset at the realisation that there was no heaven. I was obviously less than sympathetic so she blocked me. By the way the original poster said atheists speak about god not "speak to god". Finally I do not call myself an atheist, I just am, and living in a country where believers are in the minority the onus is on theists to be labelled not the other way round.

Cant make this up

Moravian comments on Aug 28, 2020:

Not true. I understand that the 17 year old has been charged with murder.

Moravian replies on Aug 28, 2020:

@Mofo1953 As an politician famously said "he wasn't lying he was just being economical with the truth" Robert Reich is being economical with the truth in neglecting to say that the teenager has been charged with murder.

Why do Atheist like to talk about God so much?

Moravian comments on Aug 28, 2020:

If you mean on this site it wouldn't be much of a conversation as there are very few "atheists" here. As many of the members here appear to be struggling to come to terms with their Christian indoctrination it is not surprising that religion is a common topic.

Moravian replies on Aug 28, 2020:

@VeronikaAnnJ Without actually doing a head count I would guess that the majority of members on here call themselves "agnostic" As for a few people despising religion , is it surprising when you consider the evils perpetuated in it's name.

Another Brick in the Wall.

Robecology comments on Aug 26, 2020:

Love the funny image; here's my contribution...

Moravian replies on Aug 27, 2020:

@BDair Could you show some evidence to back up your statement

A lemming is a small rodent.

Moravian comments on Aug 26, 2020:

Even allowing for the stupidity of some people I doubt if this is true. How many people suffer from accidental poisoning in a normal year anyway ?. Just after Trump made his "drink bleach" comment there was a case of a man becoming seriously ill from ingesting bleach and it was blamed on Trump's ...

Moravian replies on Aug 27, 2020:

@TheoryNumber3 You are probably right. When I see the actions of some Americans reported on BBC news I have to shake my head in utter disbelief.

A lemming is a small rodent.

Moravian comments on Aug 26, 2020:

Even allowing for the stupidity of some people I doubt if this is true. How many people suffer from accidental poisoning in a normal year anyway ?. Just after Trump made his "drink bleach" comment there was a case of a man becoming seriously ill from ingesting bleach and it was blamed on Trump's ...

Moravian replies on Aug 26, 2020:

@TheoryNumber3 Certainly better than Fox News but I wonder how many of those cases are from accidental poisoning. People will be using disinfectant to sterilise surfaces and may be careless in handling it. Just a thought.

A note to all of you who continue to doubt me (re: consciousness)

Moravian comments on Aug 22, 2020:

e = mc2

Moravian replies on Aug 22, 2020:

@JeffMesser That's a ridiculous question. In a plane you are travelling in a pressurised tube so the ball would behave as if you were standing still. I was commenting on the statement "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MATTER". Of course there is. Energy and matter are interchangeable. As for the conflict between Newtonian physics and Quantum physics, I don't think anyone wasting their time on this chat site could answer that one.

Blasphemy: Kano court sentences 13 year old boy to 10 years in jail

Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 21, 2020:

Every people deserves the government they're stupid enough to accept. As an American I earned the right to say that over the last four years.

Moravian replies on Aug 22, 2020:

@phoenixone1 Nigeria is reckoned to have lost around $400 billion in corruption since independence in 1960 This almost equals their current GDP of $448 billion. The GDP of the USA is over $21 trillion. How much has corruption cost the American people in the last 60 years ?. A tiny fraction of that I would guess. You guys are mere amateurs in the corruption stakes compared to Nigeria

Blasphemy: Kano court sentences 13 year old boy to 10 years in jail

Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 21, 2020:

Every people deserves the government they're stupid enough to accept. As an American I earned the right to say that over the last four years.

Moravian replies on Aug 21, 2020:

@phoenixone1 The situation in Nigeria and in the USA are worlds apart

Blasphemy: Kano court sentences 13 year old boy to 10 years in jail

Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 21, 2020:

Every people deserves the government they're stupid enough to accept. As an American I earned the right to say that over the last four years.

Moravian replies on Aug 21, 2020:

Don't be too hard on the Nigerian people. There is so much corruption and missgovernment there that ordinary people have little choice but to do the best they can.

The Cry of a Love-Lorn Tom Abed last night I woke in fright At a fearsome burst of song.

Moravian comments on Aug 20, 2020:

Very funny

Moravian replies on Aug 21, 2020:

@Petter Your story reminded me of an incident many years ago. After a mates stag party I stayed overnight in a country hotel. I was in the annex and it was in the days before en suite bathrooms. In the middle of the night i got up to go to the bathroom and as it was a warm night I was sleeping au natural. I found the bathroom ok but got lost and couldn't find my room. I opened one door to hear this deep male voice say "hello". That one was hurriedly closed. I don't know how long I wandered the corridors of that hotel but with great relief I eventually found my room. Fortunately unlike you I had left the door unlocked, Have you ever had any published ?

Keep it going!

Moravian comments on Aug 20, 2020:

Don't get it

Moravian replies on Aug 20, 2020:

@Auroramorealist My hairy friend Murdo. I get it now . The sufaragette is passing the torch to Kamala Harris

Not sure if he is more concerned about the bike or the jeans.

CommonHuman comments on Aug 19, 2020:

I used to ride. I had men ride on the bitch seat. If you think it is degrading to ride on the bitch seat, apparently you don't respect anyone in the bitch seat, and according to you that should be women. All around a problem.

Moravian replies on Aug 20, 2020:

@CommonHuman I don't know why but I am constantly surprised that for a so called civilised country women are still called bitches and hoes on a regular basis in the USA

More proof of God - A Response - YouTube

Rossy92 comments on Aug 18, 2020:

Like your approach - respectful, serious, and good speaking voice - you sound intelligent. Gotta say though, a 40 minute video won't likely get much traction on this site. It's a bit long. And since you're a bit new here, I'll give a heads up that though I and many others here may like to talk about...

Moravian replies on Aug 19, 2020:

I'm with you there. Infantile tedious stuff. Someone should give the kid a copy of "The blind watch maker" by Richard Dawkins.

I'm tellin ya....

Moravian comments on Aug 17, 2020:

Is that sir Sean ?. Not wearing too well.

Moravian replies on Aug 18, 2020:

@EyesThatSmile Has reached the grand old age of 90 despite all those baddies out to get him

Fox News says that all government workers need to wear a mask if they are on a video conference in ...

rogerbenham comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Well we know that Fox News is simply entertainment so to believe them is foolish.

Moravian replies on Aug 17, 2020:

@rogerbenham The Sun, a newspaper ?. Come on, that's stretching it a bit.

What about NDE's (Near Death Experiences)?

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 16, 2020:

I don't suggest anyone "explain away" things with easy catch-all answers (like 'God did it' ) on either side of the coin. Do a little research and learn about how the brain receives and processes information. There may be a lot of info that you learn that makes those "lies and brain farts" morph ...

Moravian replies on Aug 17, 2020:

@JeffMesser What you get here are other people's opinions. What did you expect ?

Helena Schrader, Helena Schrader Apparently, the "Dark Ages" of Medieval Europe are a complete ...

Moravian comments on Aug 16, 2020:

"With the spread of Christianity in the 4th century AD, however, slavery became increasingly unacceptable because Christianity viewed each human as a soul loved by God." Tell that to the hundreds and thousands of Africans transported to the new world. I wouldn't presume to argue with all the ...

Moravian replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@MikeInBatonRouge So what are you saying ?. Slavery became unacceptable then became acceptable again.

Helena Schrader, Helena Schrader Apparently, the "Dark Ages" of Medieval Europe are a complete ...

Moravian comments on Aug 16, 2020:

"With the spread of Christianity in the 4th century AD, however, slavery became increasingly unacceptable because Christianity viewed each human as a soul loved by God." Tell that to the hundreds and thousands of Africans transported to the new world. I wouldn't presume to argue with all the ...

Moravian replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@Petter Those days are long since past I am afraid as the recent fiasco over the exam results show. We are still trying to get our own back on the Irish and they even beat us at the annual hurling/shinty international but as they use an implement that looks more like a shovel than the dainty caman our guys use it's not surprising. As for the union, I think it's days are over and if the English want to think that are a major international force and can send warships to the South China sea to annoy the Chinese well let them but I want no part of it.

FACT! Or, why it is asinine to believe in the proposition "you have your opinion and I have ...

OldMetalHead comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Probably an anti-vaxxer too. Spreading false information can do real harm.

Moravian replies on Aug 15, 2020:

@powder Certainly social distancing and improved hygiene will help to stop the spread of flu but a vaccine is also important. I understand that in parts of your fair country flu has been less prevalent this winter because of this and the effects of lockdown; I cannot speak for others but I have always been aware that the strains of flu used for the vaccine each year had to be chosen in advance and some virulent ones may be missed. In the UK this coming winter the vaccine is being offered to all over 55 instead of 65 to help reduce the strain on the NHS possibly coping with a resurgence of covid 19 Now are you going to tell me that all this money is being wasted because the vaccine does not work ?

FACT! Or, why it is asinine to believe in the proposition "you have your opinion and I have ...

OldMetalHead comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Probably an anti-vaxxer too. Spreading false information can do real harm.

Moravian replies on Aug 15, 2020:

@powder OK. you are not confused just being pedantic. Last year the flu vaccine was estimated to give immunity in close to 50%.so you admit that it was your initial statement that was bollocks. Whether you take the vaccine or not is your choice. Personally I have had it for the past ten years an will continue to take it.

FACT! Or, why it is asinine to believe in the proposition "you have your opinion and I have ...

OldMetalHead comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Probably an anti-vaxxer too. Spreading false information can do real harm.

Moravian replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@powder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza I think you are a bit confused. This may enlighten you

I love looking at the stars and the moon and the planets... Oh. Never mind.

Freespirit64 comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Beauty is everywhere....😉

Moravian replies on Aug 14, 2020:

In the eye of the pot holder

FACT! Or, why it is asinine to believe in the proposition "you have your opinion and I have ...

OldMetalHead comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Probably an anti-vaxxer too. Spreading false information can do real harm.

Moravian replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@powder OK Einstein .Lets have the benefit of your wisdom

[youtube.com] Hitchens delivers one of his best hammer blows to cocky audience member

Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 12, 2020:

Hitchens was great, until he talked about politics, on politics he was a dick.

Moravian replies on Aug 12, 2020:

In what way ?. I know he was in favour of the removal of Saddam Hussein from Iraq and I think that was mainly because he was a champion of the Kurdish people who Saddam was committing genocide against

For the anglophiles ... [agnostic.com]

wolf041 comments on Aug 12, 2020:

Four hours barely gets the car warmed up. That's a round trip to the city for errands . During the 55 mph years, it took the average person ( read that non Texan) 3 days to cross Texas

Moravian replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Cyklone Reminds me of the Glaswegian visiting Texas. Texas rancher, " I can drive all day and not reach the edge of my property" Glaswegian "Know what you mean, I had a car like that once "

Get ready for those great deals on wheels...

GEGR comments on Aug 10, 2020:

Harley - Davidson is Doomed .

Moravian replies on Aug 10, 2020:

@WonderWartHog99 We have a Harley meeting every year called " Thunder in the glens" near where I live. Hundreds of Harley riders come from all over the UK and some from Europe. Last year an Indian dealer had a few bikes on display. I don't think there was one under £20000. I think you are right about the second hand bikes. There will probably be lots of cycles as well. "used once on a sunny day"

Get ready for those great deals on wheels...

GEGR comments on Aug 10, 2020:

Harley - Davidson is Doomed .

Moravian replies on Aug 10, 2020:

@WonderWartHog99 If you mean by high end the most expensive then I think Indian would be at the top of the heap with Harley second. If you mean in technical sophistication I think you will find that most European and Japanese makes would be above them both.

Was finding this educational and wanted to share it as I recently decided to go pescatarian because ...

Moravian comments on Aug 6, 2020:

I don't know when pig meat became taboo meat for Jews but I find the story from the new testament a bit puzzling. Jesus transferred the demons from a man in to a herd of pigs who ran into the sea and drowned themselves. The owner of the pigs must have been a bit annoyed and what was he keeping them ...

Moravian replies on Aug 9, 2020:

@Alchemy Sorry to hear that. I am surprised that animal protein is still fed to cows over there. The practice was stopped here and only cows up to a certain age can be sold for human consumption' There were a handful of deaths attributed to Mad cow disease at the time and lots of doom laden forecasts but nothing since as far as I am aware.

TDS is causing unnecessary deaths. I wonder what the final TDS death count will be. [youtube.]

Moravian comments on Aug 8, 2020:

TDS.DSM,DJT ?? WTF

Moravian replies on Aug 8, 2020:

@Cutiebeauty Thanks. I know what the last one means :-)

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linxminx comments on Aug 4, 2020:

Our society, that is America, allows men to sexualize women period, for any reason, and get away with it. They sexualize women for anything, not necessarily clothing, it could come from a smell, mannerism, tone of voice, being nice, whatever. Basically, America is a culture that gives excuses for ...

Moravian replies on Aug 7, 2020:

@MsDemeanour So your son wears tight trousers to show of his attributes but feels uncomfortable about the attention he gets ?. Sounds a bit confused.

Was finding this educational and wanted to share it as I recently decided to go pescatarian because ...

Moravian comments on Aug 6, 2020:

I don't know when pig meat became taboo meat for Jews but I find the story from the new testament a bit puzzling. Jesus transferred the demons from a man in to a herd of pigs who ran into the sea and drowned themselves. The owner of the pigs must have been a bit annoyed and what was he keeping them ...

Moravian replies on Aug 6, 2020:

@Alchemy That makes sense. Cannibals could catch Creutzfeldt - Jacob disease from eating human brains and of course there was the short lived mad cow disease

[fempositive.

Moravian comments on Aug 4, 2020:

Leggings to a business meeting ?. Seems a rather odd dress choice. I go to a gym every week attached to the local high school and groups of young teenagers are always around. Most of the girls are wearing leggings which at a distance look as if they have had their legs and lower body painted black....

Moravian replies on Aug 6, 2020:

@Gwendolyn2018 Are you serious ?

I stopped at the market...

Moravian comments on Aug 6, 2020:

Very good, but was there a band called "cake"

Moravian replies on Aug 6, 2020:

@Donna_I Thanks for that.Really good. Never heard of them before

Nailed it....

FrayedBear comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Or most circumcised men's penises?

Moravian replies on Aug 6, 2020:

On the contrary. This barbaric practice reduces the sensitivity

[fempositive.

linxminx comments on Aug 4, 2020:

Our society, that is America, allows men to sexualize women period, for any reason, and get away with it. They sexualize women for anything, not necessarily clothing, it could come from a smell, mannerism, tone of voice, being nice, whatever. Basically, America is a culture that gives excuses for ...

Moravian replies on Aug 6, 2020:

@VeronikaAnnJ Thanks for that and I apologise for criticising your choice of dress when it wasn't clear what you were wearing with the leggings' I think what annoyed me was that the thread had turned in to a man bashing diatribe. I thought I had stumbled on to feminists R us. It must have been an embarrassing experience for you. Regarding the girls in the high school it was actually my partner,an American woman. who commented to me that she thought leggings/tights without a dress or skirt was inappropriate dress. Regarding school uniforms in addition to ensuring that the dress is appropriate for the school environment it creates a level playing field where rich kids cannot show of expensive designer gear and make the poor kids feel bad; I'm sure that most girls can show their individuality in other ways; But that is just my opinion.

[fempositive.

Moravian comments on Aug 4, 2020:

Leggings to a business meeting ?. Seems a rather odd dress choice. I go to a gym every week attached to the local high school and groups of young teenagers are always around. Most of the girls are wearing leggings which at a distance look as if they have had their legs and lower body painted black....

Moravian replies on Aug 6, 2020:

@Gwendolyn2018 Ha ha So long as you remember that when the postman knocks at the door

When a keyboard warrior calls me stupid, yet expects me to listen to what they have to say while ...

Moravian comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Very true and since you called my comments stupid I don't take what you say very seriously either.

Moravian replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@LovinLarge That's disappointing. I make a point of never giving personal insults as I believe when you resort to that you have lost the argument. I was called "shit for brains" and a "moron" recently by one of the regular posters. That made me smile.

[fempositive.

Moravian comments on Aug 4, 2020:

Leggings to a business meeting ?. Seems a rather odd dress choice. I go to a gym every week attached to the local high school and groups of young teenagers are always around. Most of the girls are wearing leggings which at a distance look as if they have had their legs and lower body painted black....

Moravian replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@Gwendolyn2018 You have my sympathy but bras are functional and ties are purely decorative. The UK business establishment tends to be a bit staid and conservative so it may be some time for it to change although I watched a BBC quiz show this evening where both of the presenters were wearing open necked shirts. Go back to the early days of steam radio and the newsreaders were required to wear dinner jackets. I'm sure it is much more relaxed in Australia. A few years ago during a heatwave I visited an office in town to find everyone wearing shorts. Secretaries, juniors, managers, everyone. One of the managers was a guy from Australia so I assume that he talked the office in to this sensible dress code.

When a keyboard warrior calls me stupid, yet expects me to listen to what they have to say while ...

Moravian comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Very true and since you called my comments stupid I don't take what you say very seriously either.

Moravian replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@LovinLarge OK let's have them then I am waiting

Why would a lifelong atheist suddenly decide to become baptized into Mormonism and be going on a ...

Mofo1953 comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Two words, legal polygamy.

Moravian replies on Aug 5, 2020:

Polygamy is illegal in the USA

[fempositive.

Moravian comments on Aug 4, 2020:

Leggings to a business meeting ?. Seems a rather odd dress choice. I go to a gym every week attached to the local high school and groups of young teenagers are always around. Most of the girls are wearing leggings which at a distance look as if they have had their legs and lower body painted black....

Moravian replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@Gwendolyn2018 It appears to have changed markedly in silicon valley with very casual dress now the norm but in most business environments more formal attire is still the norm, certainly in the UK. For example I looked at several properties recently with a view to purchase and the representatives of the estate agents,all women of varying ages were without exception dressed in smart business suits. I would have been very surprised if they had turned up dressed as if they were on the way to the gym.

[fempositive.

linxminx comments on Aug 4, 2020:

Our society, that is America, allows men to sexualize women period, for any reason, and get away with it. They sexualize women for anything, not necessarily clothing, it could come from a smell, mannerism, tone of voice, being nice, whatever. Basically, America is a culture that gives excuses for ...

Moravian replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@VeronikaAnnJ So to say that I am in favour of school uniforms and that pubescent schoolgirls shouldn't dress in a way that distracts teenage boys is stupid ? I'm sure a lot of parents would agree with me but try to get a willful young girl to dress differently from her peers ?. No chance. I have a friend who's daughters attend a private school where the dress code is a skirt/kilt below the knee and they all conform or are sent home. No problems. I spent much of my working life in office environments and never saw behaviour such as you describe and I agree that the situation was handled badly by your superior. If that sort of behaviour is the norm now in the USA it is a bit sad but if it is then surely women are aware of it and do not dress in a way to encourage it

[fempositive.

linxminx comments on Aug 4, 2020:

Our society, that is America, allows men to sexualize women period, for any reason, and get away with it. They sexualize women for anything, not necessarily clothing, it could come from a smell, mannerism, tone of voice, being nice, whatever. Basically, America is a culture that gives excuses for ...

Moravian replies on Aug 4, 2020:

Good to see some sensible comments on the topic. Sometimes I wonder why people post on here. Is it purely to get agreement and sympathy for their viewpoint or do they actually want a debate ? To dismiss someone with a different viewpoint as being ignorant of the topic is not debating so I presume it must be the former.

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Moravian comments on Aug 4, 2020:

Leggings to a business meeting ?. Seems a rather odd dress choice. I go to a gym every week attached to the local high school and groups of young teenagers are always around. Most of the girls are wearing leggings which at a distance look as if they have had their legs and lower body painted black....

Moravian replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@VeronikaAnnJ An office environment. Same thing. So some leggings are thicker than others. Maybe you should post a photo so that we can all judge if it appears to be suitable attire :-)

[fempositive.

Moravian comments on Aug 4, 2020:

Leggings to a business meeting ?. Seems a rather odd dress choice. I go to a gym every week attached to the local high school and groups of young teenagers are always around. Most of the girls are wearing leggings which at a distance look as if they have had their legs and lower body painted black....

Moravian replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@MsDemeanour Not this time :-). I am in favour of school uniforms and most situations have a dress code of some sort' I had to wear a suit and tie to office meetings and sit perspiring in the summer, no air conditioning here while any women at the meeting were dressed in light summer frocks.

The Prosperity Gospel VS The Actual Gospels Everybody knows the gospels of the bible are Matthew,...

Mofo1953 comments on Aug 2, 2020:

The gospels are not fake, they are real (see the Dead Sea scrolls) but Constantine the empetor did hide the apocriphals, the gnostic and even the judas iscariot gospel or the wife of jesus gospel of Mary Magdalene among others.

Moravian replies on Aug 3, 2020:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls Nothing to do with the gospels. They are much more recent.

Maybe this'll work?

Moravian comments on Aug 2, 2020:

This reminds me of the pub which had a small statue of a muscular adonis in the ladies toilet with a fig leaf over it's naughty bits.If a lady using the toilet lifted the fig leaf to have a peek a bell rang in the bar which she could also hear. Entry one red faced lady in to the bar

Moravian replies on Aug 2, 2020:

@Robecology I tried to find out the name of the pub and all I could find was a story about a nun going in to said pub so maybe it is just an urban myth; I do remember going in to a pub in Manchester years ago which had dozens of pairs of knickers stapled to the ceiling. I don't know how it started but every young lady who went in to the pub was encouraged to add to the collection. Sadly the pub has long since gone in a redevelopment of the area.