Bernie vs.

RoboGraham comments on Mar 5, 2020:

I think you are totally correct. Here's why I almost definitely won't vote for Biden. Even if most of us Berners show up for Biden, as we did for Hillary, he still won't win because he does not inspire the high turnout needed to overcome the lopsided representation of the electoral college. So ...

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

@Lorajay I don't even care all that much if he wins or not. It won't make much difference.

1st off, I will vote for whoever gets then Democratic nomination! Secondly, please do the math ...

RoboGraham comments on Mar 5, 2020:

Youngsters are much more likely to turn out in the general.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

@Lorajay She was pretty terrible. I voted for her too. I won't do that again.

1st off, I will vote for whoever gets then Democratic nomination! Secondly, please do the math ...

RoboGraham comments on Mar 5, 2020:

Youngsters are much more likely to turn out in the general.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

@Bierbasstard Right, MD will go blue regardless of what I do so I feel no pressure to choose the lesser of two evils. I'll vote for whoever I decide I like more.

1st off, I will vote for whoever gets then Democratic nomination! Secondly, please do the math ...

RoboGraham comments on Mar 5, 2020:

Youngsters are much more likely to turn out in the general.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

@Bierbasstard Oh I see the problem. The phone corrected young to you. Young people tend to be unreliable and irresponsible, is what that was meant to say. my bad.

Elizabeth Warren has dropped out but is not endorsing anybody yet.

RoboGraham comments on Mar 5, 2020:

She gave a speech in which she encouraged people not to vote for Biden so that's a good sign.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

@TomMcGiverin A couple of days ago so nevermind. I was thinking it was today.

1st off, I will vote for whoever gets then Democratic nomination! Secondly, please do the math ...

RoboGraham comments on Mar 5, 2020:

Youngsters are much more likely to turn out in the general.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

@Bierbasstard This is true. You people tend to be unreliable and irresponsible.

Dear Bernie supporters, if Bernie does not get the nomination please please please put all your ...

RoboGraham comments on Mar 4, 2020:

The only way to win the Senate is to run a popular nominee who will inspire high turnout.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

@1of5 When there is no candidate on the ballot that is likeable, people aren't likely to show up. That's the way it is. There are two options in dealing with this reality. 1) Run a candidate who people will vote for with enthusiasm. 2) Shame and blame the non-voters for the unpopular candidate's loss. I'll leave you to decide which is more effective.

It’s time for Sanders to take on Biden’s atrocious fifty-year anti-liberal record.

Davesnothere comments on Mar 5, 2020:

I think Trump and all his cronies are Laughing at the Dems. The old school, so called moderate (neo-liberal) Dems have coalesced around Biden. Say, didn't Trump say that LAST election, they rigged it against Bernie? Does that not fit that motif too well? Say, he never stopped saying that to ...

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

Not only are they ensuring that Trump will win again but they are causing long term damage to the party. Those youngsters certainly will not support the party with any enthusiasm which is exactly what we need and many are going to leave or never join in the first place. I myself am on the fence about remaining with the democratic party. It is just too corrupt and unfair.

Bernie FDR comparison. [facebook.com]

Novelty comments on Mar 5, 2020:

When I compared Sanders to FDR some people here lost their shit. It's hard for people to understand in an ultra right wing (fascist) backward society where anything not a Republican or Christian (two different things that are having butt sex with each other) is Communist.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

I made that comparison also and it just went over peoples heads. It's impossible for some people to understand that we've already had a social democrat president and he was literally the most popular president since Washington, the only one to win 4 terms. Hopefully, it won't take another great depression to get someone in the oval office who can put the breaks on this out of control neoliberal capitalism which has taken over our government.

Dear Bernie supporters, if Bernie does not get the nomination please please please put all your ...

1of5 comments on Mar 5, 2020:

Just fucking vote. Whine, bitch, moan, complain, stamp your feet, scream into the wind, kick kittens, whatever it takes. Just fucking vote. And vote down ballot, too. Get the Senate out of Mitch "Yes I'm a turtle so I take great pleasure in ruining your life" McConnell's hands. The fuckface.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

@1of5 It's pretty challenging to get people who typically don't vote to turn up for a primary. The idea is that they will show up for the general if a populist is on the ballot.

Dear Bernie supporters, if Bernie does not get the nomination please please please put all your ...

Cutiebeauty comments on Mar 5, 2020:

Excellent idea

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

@Cutiebeauty I hate that.

Dear Bernie supporters, if Bernie does not get the nomination please please please put all your ...

Cutiebeauty comments on Mar 5, 2020:

Excellent idea

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

Except which idea?

Dear Bernie supporters, if Bernie does not get the nomination please please please put all your ...

1of5 comments on Mar 5, 2020:

Just fucking vote. Whine, bitch, moan, complain, stamp your feet, scream into the wind, kick kittens, whatever it takes. Just fucking vote. And vote down ballot, too. Get the Senate out of Mitch "Yes I'm a turtle so I take great pleasure in ruining your life" McConnell's hands. The fuckface.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

The establishment should put this comment into a campaign add. Just fucking kick a kitten and vote for our shitty nominee. Very inspiring stuff.

If Joe Biden is the democratic nominee, what will you do on November 3rd?

SpikeTalon comments on Mar 4, 2020:

Not sure who the Libertarian Party candidate will be, so most likely I'll be voting for Mr T.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

I'm hoping the Libertarian candidate will be Ron Swanson.

If Joe Biden is the democratic nominee, what will you do on November 3rd?

1of5 comments on Mar 5, 2020:

I'll vote against Trump. GLADLY

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

Same here.

Completely DISGUSTED last night watching reporters going maniacal with glee over Bidens wins.

Buddha comments on Mar 4, 2020:

I'm disgusted we with them too... I will not vote for Biden. He really seems to have dementia

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

@Storm1752 It's a long shot in Florida but every vote helps. Thanks for that.

Dear Bernie supporters, if Bernie does not get the nomination please please please put all your ...

Athena comments on Mar 5, 2020:

Sooo...all of the candidates on stage voted against democracy, except for Bernie, stating "your vote doesn't count" (regarding number of votes versus superdelegates) and once Bernie has been screwed again, due to an oppositional coalition, then "please give us your vote"? If Biden is the nominee,...

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

They'd rather employ that same losing strategy they tried in 16 of running a corporatist moderate with a very questionable record and accept the high risk of losing to Trump again than allow Bernie to get into power and change things for the better.

Dear Bernie supporters, if Bernie does not get the nomination please please please put all your ...

RoboGraham comments on Mar 4, 2020:

The only way to win the Senate is to run a popular nominee who will inspire high turnout.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 5, 2020:

@1of5 Most people show up because they want to vote for president and they vote for down ballot races while they're at it. If someone they are excited about isn't running, they are less likely to show up. If it's Biden, I'll still show up to vote for the down ballot contestants but most people won't bother.

If Joe Biden is the democratic nominee, what will you do on November 3rd?

Lorajay comments on Mar 4, 2020:

A vote for anybody but the Democratic nominee will elect Trump.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 4, 2020:

@Lorajay That is admirable.

If Joe Biden is the democratic nominee, what will you do on November 3rd?

Lorajay comments on Mar 4, 2020:

A vote for anybody but the Democratic nominee will elect Trump.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 4, 2020:

I'm sorry but if Biden is the nominee, Trump has already won.

Completely DISGUSTED last night watching reporters going maniacal with glee over Bidens wins.

Buddha comments on Mar 4, 2020:

I'm disgusted we with them too... I will not vote for Biden. He really seems to have dementia

RoboGraham replies on Mar 4, 2020:

They are nominating a candidate who has a terrible record, is constantly lying about his past, and is clearly in cognitive decline. The vote will be massively suppressed and Trump's victory is assured unless something turns around quick.

Robert Reich on dispelling 6 myths about Bernie Sanders. [facebook.com]

Novelty comments on Mar 3, 2020:

Robert is an economic genius and proved it by having the only government surplus in any of our lifetimes at the end of the Clinton administration. Anyone and everyone that commits libel at Roberts expense is working knowingly or unknowingly for Putin and deserves all the scorn and shunning that ...

RoboGraham replies on Mar 3, 2020:

@TheInterlooper She didn't say that he was solely responsible for it. He was in charge during that time so he gets to take the credit. And most likely, he at least played some small part in making it happen.

I have a serious matter to bring before the Senate.

hippydog comments on Feb 18, 2020:

Your just noticing now that gipsy is more than a little "off"?

RoboGraham replies on Mar 3, 2020:

@hippydog Gotcha

‪VIDEO: Two climb over border wall with makeshift ladder [theamericanmirror.

RoboGraham comments on Feb 27, 2020:

Most of the border still has no wall. Yet people who live where there is wall choose to go over, or through, or under the wall rather than going around to an area where no wall has been built yet. You know your barrier is useless when people find it less inconvenient to cross where the barrier ...

RoboGraham replies on Mar 3, 2020:

@Bobby9 "I'd say it only slows them slightly. " "Well that's true. I don't know for sure that it isn't worth while because I don't know how much it actually is assisting border patrol. " I've admitted that walls slow people down and help stop them. Point is, not enough to justify the expending the resources to build it. Don't have backup? When did I say that?

Progressives plan to BernTheDNC with mass nonviolent civil disobedience if democratic establishment...

St-Sinner comments on Mar 2, 2020:

There will be no rigging. There will be just throwing out an extremist leftist who has never been a Democrat and preventing his hijacking of the party platform. Invaders and robbers must be thrown out.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 3, 2020:

@St-Sinner Rigging yes, thank you. So we agree, rigging is when the elites overrule the will of the people to prevent a leader from getting into power. Where we disagree, you are encouraging this anti-democratic action and I will fight against it. Even if it were the other way around, if Biden got the most votes and they decided to give it to some other candidate for whatever reason, I'd be opposed. This is the perfect strategy to piss off a large segment of the party, fracture it into bits, and discourage future generations from joining. It's extremely detrimental and will end in disaster.

What Bernie Sanders Really Got Done in His 29 Years in Congress

Athena comments on Mar 3, 2020:

Why does Bernie keep fighting for all the things he believes in, against such ardent opposition? Ending slavery and segregation, women having the right to vote... I mean, no one in history got anywhere fighting for what's right. 🤷‍♀️ Why are they blaming him and not the people who are...

RoboGraham replies on Mar 3, 2020:

@St-Sinner "create a movement from the grass roots since early on. " That's exactly what he did.

Progressives plan to BernTheDNC with mass nonviolent civil disobedience if democratic establishment...

St-Sinner comments on Mar 2, 2020:

There will be no rigging. There will be just throwing out an extremist leftist who has never been a Democrat and preventing his hijacking of the party platform. Invaders and robbers must be thrown out.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 2, 2020:

What's your definition of ringing?

‪VIDEO: Two climb over border wall with makeshift ladder [theamericanmirror.

RoboGraham comments on Feb 27, 2020:

Most of the border still has no wall. Yet people who live where there is wall choose to go over, or through, or under the wall rather than going around to an area where no wall has been built yet. You know your barrier is useless when people find it less inconvenient to cross where the barrier ...

RoboGraham replies on Mar 2, 2020:

@Bobby9 I know. The conversation isn't going anywhere so I decided to be goofy and type some pink Floyd lyrics.

Well isn't this nice.

RoboGraham comments on Mar 1, 2020:

You don't beat a corrupt system by taking it's bribes. All the other candidates admitted that they don't believe in democracy.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 2, 2020:

@1of5 I have a suspicion that the Bloomer won't be willing to fund the guy who is guaranteed to raise his taxes. I have no doubt that they will do all they can to deny him the nomination. If he gets the most votes but the nomination goes to some other candidate, the anti-democratic party will wither. My generation and those younger than me will not tolerate elites subverting the will of the people.

Well isn't this nice.

RoboGraham comments on Mar 1, 2020:

You don't beat a corrupt system by taking it's bribes. All the other candidates admitted that they don't believe in democracy.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 2, 2020:

@1of5 Why is it assumed that the plutocrat absolutely will be funding the nominee? Either Bernie will take the bribes from the billionaire or not be nominee? That's a fair dichotomy. These are not the only two options. He can be nominee and not take the money. The lack of corruption, the lack of being beholden to a plutocrat is worth more in PR than the money itself.

Well isn't this nice.

RoboGraham comments on Mar 1, 2020:

You don't beat a corrupt system by taking it's bribes. All the other candidates admitted that they don't believe in democracy.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 2, 2020:

@St-Sinner The way things work on the ground- Bernie Sanders the "socialist" has organized a mass movement of enthusiastic people putting in the time, effort, and money to create positive change and fix this rigged economy. The big scary socialism word is not preventing him from dominating the party and it will not prevent him from beating the fascist in the white house.

Well isn't this nice.

RoboGraham comments on Mar 1, 2020:

You don't beat a corrupt system by taking it's bribes. All the other candidates admitted that they don't believe in democracy.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 2, 2020:

@St-Sinner Kindly reexamine your intellectually bankrupt stance toward social democracy.

‪VIDEO: Two climb over border wall with makeshift ladder [theamericanmirror.

RoboGraham comments on Feb 27, 2020:

Most of the border still has no wall. Yet people who live where there is wall choose to go over, or through, or under the wall rather than going around to an area where no wall has been built yet. You know your barrier is useless when people find it less inconvenient to cross where the barrier ...

RoboGraham replies on Mar 2, 2020:

@Bobby9 All in all your just another brick in the wall

Well isn't this nice.

Storm1752 comments on Mar 2, 2020:

Bloomberg is the most electable candidate; too bad if some people don't like it.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 2, 2020:

We tried running a moderate last time it didn't work. In fact, all the moderates we have run this century failed. Gore- lost Kerry- lost Obama- won by running on a progressive hope and change message Clinton- lost. Clearly we need a progressive to encourage high turnout in order to win. This strategy of running moderates in order to appeal to centrists and conservatives is a loser. Why would we use the same losing strategy when we have a very popular progressive who has been fighting for positive reform all of his long career? Bloomberg is a particularly unlikable moderate because he is an authoritarian republican plutocrat. Stop and frisk makes me very unpopular with African Americans and Americans who have morals. He has more sexual assault allegations than Trump. He is good friends with Trump. He donated millions to the campaigns of republican candidates as recently as 2018. He endorsed George Bush while onstage at the 2004 republican national convention. There are literally millions of democratic voters who will never under any circumstances defile themselves with a vote for the Bloomer. With each passing week we get more evidence that the idea that Sanders isn't electable is nothing more than a myth. He is the most popular Senator in the nation. He made history by being the first person from either party to win all three of the first states in the primary. He is way ahead in all of the polls. He has an army of enthusiastic supporters willing to do whatever it takes to win. He is leading with people of color. People trust him the most on the most important issue of this election, healthcare. He has energized the youth vote. He does very well with working class voters of the rust belt which is the exact demographic which caused Hillary to lose. He is outside of the establishment and has been an independent for most of his career and independents like that so he does well with them. He can take voters away from Trump because he too is a populist who appeals to working class voters who feel left behind. He is shattering individual donor records and people love the fact that he is funded by the people rather than by the special interests. He is filling stadiums when he gives speeches. It's a very long list. Why is he undetectable? People fear socialism. Well those people will be voting republican regardless. He is old and had a heart procedure. Yes but he is clearly in very good mental and physical shape. He is more energetic and holding more speaking events than some of the younger candidates. That's really all that is against him. He doesn't have any real scandals. He has massive consistency and integrity. More and more of the people who say they like him but don't support him because he isn't electable are realizing that he is actually ...

Well isn't this nice.

RoboGraham comments on Mar 1, 2020:

You don't beat a corrupt system by taking it's bribes. All the other candidates admitted that they don't believe in democracy.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 2, 2020:

@St-Sinner Have some standards.

Let's talk about Bernie causing breadlines.... - YouTube

Athena comments on Mar 2, 2020:

I really like what this speaker is saying. I just wish he would make the words come out a little faster!

RoboGraham replies on Mar 2, 2020:

He's southern. They take their time. But it's worth the wait.

Class War, the DNC, and the Fight for Our Lives | Common Dreams Views

Athena comments on Mar 1, 2020:

Bernie is the only decent person among them. Who on earth would he choose as his VP?

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

@Athena Tulsi is really beautiful and she brings a lot of positives to the table. Liz has revealed herself to be a shameless opportunist with no integrity or principles. It certainly won't be her.

Well isn't this nice.

RoboGraham comments on Mar 1, 2020:

You don't beat a corrupt system by taking it's bribes. All the other candidates admitted that they don't believe in democracy.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

@St-Sinner Lack of corruption and support of democracy is ideology to you? Well I suppose it is. Any ideology which does not include those two characteristics is a shit ideology.

Well isn't this nice.

RoboGraham comments on Mar 1, 2020:

You don't beat a corrupt system by taking it's bribes. All the other candidates admitted that they don't believe in democracy.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

@St-Sinner The crazy ideas I'm talking about are the acceptance of big donor bribes and willingness to declare the winner of the nomination to be someone other than the candidate who gets the most votes. These ideas are held by every candidate except for Bernie. That sort of corrupt undemocratic behavior does make a candidate look ugly int the eyes of most voters.

Well isn't this nice.

RoboGraham comments on Mar 1, 2020:

You don't beat a corrupt system by taking it's bribes. All the other candidates admitted that they don't believe in democracy.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

@St-Sinner Are democracy and not being corrupt crazy ideas to you?

I have a serious matter to bring before the Senate.

hippydog comments on Feb 18, 2020:

Your just noticing now that gipsy is more than a little "off"?

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

@hippydog I don't block anyone. Didn't realize that only certain matters were worthy of Senatorial consideration.

Class War, the DNC, and the Fight for Our Lives | Common Dreams Views

Athena comments on Mar 1, 2020:

Bernie is the only decent person among them. Who on earth would he choose as his VP?

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

@Athena I think Tulsi's bad press, being called a Russian asset, could actually help her. She is also attractive to conservative leaning voters without actually being conservative.

There Joe goes again, running his mouth about Bernie. [youtube.com]

Bierbasstard comments on Mar 1, 2020:

I don't understand the point of this post.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

@Bierbasstard Just a bit of sarcasm. People are more likely to watch if they think there is some controversy. It was meant to be misleading in a goofy funny kinda way.

There Joe goes again, running his mouth about Bernie. [youtube.com]

Bierbasstard comments on Mar 1, 2020:

I don't understand the point of this post.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

@Bierbasstard Well yeah, the video is Joe talking on the topic of Bernie.

Class War, the DNC, and the Fight for Our Lives | Common Dreams Views

Athena comments on Mar 1, 2020:

Bernie is the only decent person among them. Who on earth would he choose as his VP?

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

@Athena It has to be a woman. Maybe Tulsi Gabbard.

There Joe goes again, running his mouth about Bernie. [youtube.com]

Bierbasstard comments on Mar 1, 2020:

I don't understand the point of this post.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

The point is to watch an interesting discussion on the topic of Bernie Sanders and then talk about it in the comments.

Well, Bernie is still ahead in the delegate count, and in position to do well on Super Tuesday.

Athena comments on Mar 1, 2020:

Trump won in only 41 states and took the nomination. Bernie won't win them all, but he is still the front runner. The other candidates are so terrible that he still has the best chance.

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

@Rudy1962 If they try it, the undemocratic party will fall off a cliff.

Class War, the DNC, and the Fight for Our Lives | Common Dreams Views

Athena comments on Mar 1, 2020:

Bernie is the only decent person among them. Who on earth would he choose as his VP?

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

@Athena With her on the ticket, they'd win in a landslide.

‪VIDEO: Two climb over border wall with makeshift ladder [theamericanmirror.

RoboGraham comments on Feb 27, 2020:

Most of the border still has no wall. Yet people who live where there is wall choose to go over, or through, or under the wall rather than going around to an area where no wall has been built yet. You know your barrier is useless when people find it less inconvenient to cross where the barrier ...

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

@Bobby9 I don't know for sure that it's lack of effectiveness definitely makes it not worth while. In the original comment that started this discussion, I demonstrated that it does lack effectiveness. When people are freely choosing to deal with the barrier rather going around the incomplete barrier, that is not an effective barrier. So, I understand that the fence is, probably, an ineffective waste, but I am acknowledging that there is a small chance that I could be wrong about that. It is ineffective, but I can't totally 100% say for sure that it is so ineffective that it isn't worth it. In my opinion, the cost, the damage to the environment, and the wasted resources make it a bad plan. Even if it was proving to be very effective at it's intended purpose, I don't believe all that expense is worth it just to keep out some people who don't belong.

Class War, the DNC, and the Fight for Our Lives | Common Dreams Views

Athena comments on Mar 1, 2020:

Bernie is the only decent person among them. Who on earth would he choose as his VP?

RoboGraham replies on Mar 1, 2020:

I think the best choice by far would be Krystal Ball.

‪VIDEO: Two climb over border wall with makeshift ladder [theamericanmirror.

RoboGraham comments on Feb 27, 2020:

Most of the border still has no wall. Yet people who live where there is wall choose to go over, or through, or under the wall rather than going around to an area where no wall has been built yet. You know your barrier is useless when people find it less inconvenient to cross where the barrier ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 29, 2020:

@Bobby9 Well that's true. I don't know for sure that it isn't worth while because I don't know how much it actually is assisting border patrol. On that same page, you don't know that it is worth while because it's guess work for you as well. So considering the enormous cost and the harm that it causes, as well as the demonstrated lack of effectiveness that we have seen so far, I think it's safe to say that, probably, the wall is a bad investment.

Trump knows he beats anybody but Bernie Sanders.

St-Sinner comments on Feb 28, 2020:

Thinking in a La La Land. There is a high anxiety that Bernie, the polarizer and socialist will bring a mayhem to Democrats and hand over Republican supermajority in the House, Senate and all across state houses in the country. Continuing to prop up Bernie as the savior is very dangerous and ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 28, 2020:

@St-Sinner

Trump knows he beats anybody but Bernie Sanders.

St-Sinner comments on Feb 28, 2020:

Thinking in a La La Land. There is a high anxiety that Bernie, the polarizer and socialist will bring a mayhem to Democrats and hand over Republican supermajority in the House, Senate and all across state houses in the country. Continuing to prop up Bernie as the savior is very dangerous and ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 28, 2020:

@St-Sinner Those who are worried are the out of touch corporate democrats such as yourself who are stuck in an obsolete mindset.

Trump knows he beats anybody but Bernie Sanders.

St-Sinner comments on Feb 28, 2020:

Thinking in a La La Land. There is a high anxiety that Bernie, the polarizer and socialist will bring a mayhem to Democrats and hand over Republican supermajority in the House, Senate and all across state houses in the country. Continuing to prop up Bernie as the savior is very dangerous and ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 28, 2020:

@St-Sinner Right, let's take Mitch McConnell's word for it. It is well known that he has our best interests at heart.

Trump knows he beats anybody but Bernie Sanders.

St-Sinner comments on Feb 28, 2020:

Thinking in a La La Land. There is a high anxiety that Bernie, the polarizer and socialist will bring a mayhem to Democrats and hand over Republican supermajority in the House, Senate and all across state houses in the country. Continuing to prop up Bernie as the savior is very dangerous and ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 28, 2020:

..

Republicans caught trying to cheat in South Carolina Democratic primary - Palmer Report

Bobbyzen comments on Feb 28, 2020:

Good. Sanders beats Trump by the widest margins in all but one swing state. He’s the best candidate to beat Trump. BTW, this happens in Kansas all the time. Both Republicans and Democrats do it.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 28, 2020:

Right, It's like how Hillary's team encouraged democrats to vote Trump in primaries. Whoops.

‪VIDEO: Two climb over border wall with makeshift ladder [theamericanmirror.

RoboGraham comments on Feb 27, 2020:

Most of the border still has no wall. Yet people who live where there is wall choose to go over, or through, or under the wall rather than going around to an area where no wall has been built yet. You know your barrier is useless when people find it less inconvenient to cross where the barrier ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 28, 2020:

@Bobby9 https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2017/border-wall-05-15-2017.php I'd say it only slows them slightly. When people are choosing to deal with the wall rather than go around the wall, it is an ineffective barrier. They are cutting holes in the wall large enough to drive vehicles through. They are welding rebar horizontally to the vertical slats to create permanent ladders. It is difficult to notice these things because there is so much wall to observe and the rebar blends in with the material that the wall is made of. When they cut holes, they put the removable piece back in place after passing through and it is very difficult to detect that a holes has been cut. Sure, it slows them down slightly but it is certainly not worth the cost, the damage to the environment, and the land seizure.

'You'll See Rebellion': Sanders Supporters Denounce Open Threats by Superdelegates to Steal ...

Lorajay comments on Feb 27, 2020:

If Sanders supporters act on this threat, they will be responsible for the re election of Trump. Russia prevailed in 2016 because they split the Democratic vote and discouraged others from voting. Yell at me all you want and call me names I will still hold them responsible.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 27, 2020:

@Lorajay Exactly, which is why it is very important that the nomination be awarded to the candidate who wins the primary elections.

'You'll See Rebellion': Sanders Supporters Denounce Open Threats by Superdelegates to Steal ...

Lorajay comments on Feb 27, 2020:

If Sanders supporters act on this threat, they will be responsible for the re election of Trump. Russia prevailed in 2016 because they split the Democratic vote and discouraged others from voting. Yell at me all you want and call me names I will still hold them responsible.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 27, 2020:

If the DNC gives the nomination to a candidate who did not earn the most votes, they will be responsible for the ensuing chaos that follows.

‪VIDEO: Two climb over border wall with makeshift ladder [theamericanmirror.

RoboGraham comments on Feb 27, 2020:

Most of the border still has no wall. Yet people who live where there is wall choose to go over, or through, or under the wall rather than going around to an area where no wall has been built yet. You know your barrier is useless when people find it less inconvenient to cross where the barrier ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 27, 2020:

@Bobby9 It obstructs migrating animals who are unable to fly or tunnel under. Land must be taken from people who don't want to lose it. And money is diverted from elsewhere to pay for it. I agree that people need to be prevented from entering without permission. I believe a wall is not an effective way to go about stopping them.

‪VIDEO: Two climb over border wall with makeshift ladder [theamericanmirror.

RoboGraham comments on Feb 27, 2020:

Most of the border still has no wall. Yet people who live where there is wall choose to go over, or through, or under the wall rather than going around to an area where no wall has been built yet. You know your barrier is useless when people find it less inconvenient to cross where the barrier ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 27, 2020:

@Bobby9 We are not at war or under threat of attack. No wall is better than wall because wall is enormously expensive and comes with many unintended consequences while no wall does not cause problems.

It is telling that 5 out 6 of the presidential candidates of the organization which calls itself the...

Bierbasstard comments on Feb 22, 2020:

That might be because we live in a republic that has rules.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 27, 2020:

@Storm1752 Well I'm glad that you are a fan of Sanders and are willing to vote for him if he gets it. We have to unify because you're right, any democrat will be better than republican. I don't agree with you that undemocratic rules which allow the candidate who didn't get the most votes to become the nominee is actually somehow democratic. When elites and party insiders have the power to overrule the will of the people, that is not democracy, it is oligarchy. I'm sorry, but that process is counter to democracy and I can't not point that out. It is ironic that the organization which calls itself the democratic party has such undemocratic rules in it's nomination process. With each passing week we get more evidence that the idea that Sanders isn't electable is nothing more than a myth. He is the most popular Senator in the nation. He made history by being the first person from either party to win all three of the first states in the primary. He is way ahead in all of the polls. He has an army of enthusiastic supporters willing to do whatever it takes to win. He is leading with people of color. People trust him the most on the most important issue of this election, healthcare. He has energized the youth vote. He does very well with working class voters of the rust belt which is the exact demographic which caused Hillary to lose. He is outside of the establishment and has been an independent for most of his career and independents like that so he does well with them. He can take voters away from Trump because he too is a populist who appeals to working class voters who feel left behind. He is shattering individual donor records and people love the fact that he is funded by the people rather than by the special interests. He is filling stadiums when he gives speeches. It's a very long list. We tried running a moderate last time it didn't work. In fact, all the moderates we have run this century failed. Gore- lost Kerry- lost Obama- won by running on a progressive hope and change message Clinton- lost. Clearly we need a progressive to encourage high turnout in order to win. This strategy of running moderates in order to appeal to centrists and conservatives is a loser. Why would we use the same losing strategy when we have a very popular progressive who has been fighting for positive reform all of his long career? Why is he undetectable? People fear socialism. Well those people will be voting republican regardless. He is old and had a heart procedure. Yes but he is clearly in very good mental and physical shape. He is more energetic and holding more speaking events than some of the younger candidates. That's really all that is against him. He doesn't have any real scandals. He has massive consistency and integrity. More and more of the ...

RE: Wokeness

RoboGraham comments on Feb 27, 2020:

In my mind, wokeness = identity politics. It is the ideology of the SJWs. I think it is counterproductive to the cause of creating actual positive reform.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 27, 2020:

@OwlInASack Yeah you're right about that. I'm thinking of identity politics more along the lines of when woke liberals say they won't vote for Bernie because he is an old white man member of the patriarchy and therefore he is an oppressor.

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skado comments on Feb 24, 2020:

You sure are giving Bernie a lot of airtime. THANKS!

RoboGraham replies on Feb 26, 2020:

@skado Very well said. My hat is off to you.

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AtheistReader comments on Feb 24, 2020:

Here you go. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/23/msnbc-full-blown-freakout-mode-bernie-sanders-cements-status-democratic-frontrunner?fbclid=IwAR2UdpMowT1rVCfO2eTox2DIofSQMY8uJW2J2p15PMn10iSpQ-gdEFbSzxI

RoboGraham replies on Feb 26, 2020:

@AtheistReader That's a good ass point. I've come to the same conclusion. He gets weirder and more frustrating the more you talk to him.

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Sgt_Spanky comments on Feb 24, 2020:

You live in abject terror of Bernie running against Trump. You can see nothing but ignominious defeat if Bernie runs against Trump. Right now Bernie is the most likely candidate who's going to run against Trump so if that happens you need to get over all this shit and get behind him. What else ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 26, 2020:

@St-Sinner Any candidate will turn off some voters. The progressives are the Democratic base and they are with Bernie 100%

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Sgt_Spanky comments on Feb 24, 2020:

You live in abject terror of Bernie running against Trump. You can see nothing but ignominious defeat if Bernie runs against Trump. Right now Bernie is the most likely candidate who's going to run against Trump so if that happens you need to get over all this shit and get behind him. What else ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 26, 2020:

@St-Sinner Bernie isn't consuming your time, your weird anti-bernie mission is depriving you of time and energy. That is your choice. Lots of people put time and energy into Bernie, for those who advocate for him, it's time well spent, for those who try to put the breaks on the movement, well I can see how that would be overwhelming. Your tactics of alienating everyone with your know it all "truth" attitude, and your constant attacks on a beloved political figure are most definitely adding to your loneliness.

Good thing they have their super delegates.

St-Sinner comments on Feb 26, 2020:

Yes, many of them are going to go vote for Trump. With our Bernie misadventures=, Trump is assured of 355 delegates. I am sure he is not worrying about 270.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 26, 2020:

@St-Sinner Can you get a grip?

Good thing they have their super delegates.

St-Sinner comments on Feb 26, 2020:

Yes, many of them are going to go vote for Trump. With our Bernie misadventures=, Trump is assured of 355 delegates. I am sure he is not worrying about 270.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 26, 2020:

Trump is not a contender in the democratic primary. How can super delegates vote for him?

Who will win the next election . Trump or Sanders ?

RoboGraham comments on Feb 23, 2020:

Trump won by running as a populist, by appealing to the working class. After four years, people are seeing that he has delivered on helping out his 1% buddies but he hasn't done much for the little guy. Bernie is a true populist who also appeals to the working class. He will win back the exact ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 26, 2020:

@Astonvilla1 He is the candidate most focused on policy. He as more substance than all the rest.

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maturin1919 comments on Feb 24, 2020:

Oh, got rid of the ridiculous photo you first had, eh?

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

@maturin1919 A truthful joke full of truth.

MSNBC is now a tool of the Obstructionist republicans just as much as Fox News!!! MSNBC has ...

sassygirl3869 comments on Feb 25, 2020:

I don't like the way they are slanting Bernie! I still see MSNBC to be the most watchable cable network. Chris Mathews apologized. They are a mix ultra liberal to middle of the road.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

I still believe that they aren't as biased as fox but i can no longer watch. They are a corporate news network and their only real concern is their bottom line. Bernie and any other true progressive is bad for the bottom line so they smear. I see them as the propaganda wing of the democratic establishment. Their function is to keep left leaning people focused on identity politics, Russia, and political theater meant to distract from whats really going on, as they did with the impeachment.

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desertastronomer comments on Feb 24, 2020:

https://www.salon.com/2020/02/23/nprs-attempted-takedown-of-bernie-sanders-free-of-facts-high-on-mainstream-spin_partner/ NPR's attempted takedown of Bernie Sanders: Free of facts, high on "mainstream" spin.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

@St-Sinner No, I don't the patience.

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desertastronomer comments on Feb 24, 2020:

https://www.salon.com/2020/02/23/nprs-attempted-takedown-of-bernie-sanders-free-of-facts-high-on-mainstream-spin_partner/ NPR's attempted takedown of Bernie Sanders: Free of facts, high on "mainstream" spin.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

@St-Sinner But if he is actually winning, as he is currently, is it a grown up lullaby or is it not true until you say so cause you're a truth teller and nothing can be true without your words of truth?

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maturin1919 comments on Feb 24, 2020:

Oh, got rid of the ridiculous photo you first had, eh?

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

@maturin1919 You just aren't getting it. Anything that @st-sinner says is automatically truth. And that is true because he said it and anything he says is truth so it must be true. That's why he changed his photo from the devil wearing a suit to a thing that says "Truth" because he is a truth teller and he is here to bring us the words of truth and warn us about how the truth is going to destroy our Bernie dreams.

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Boxdoc comments on Feb 24, 2020:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzoE0iO3JH8

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

Oh my god! Bernie said that literacy is positive. What a dirty commie bastard he is!

Pelosi Slammed for Backing Koch-Backed Texas Democrat Over Progressive Contender [truthout.

RoboGraham comments on Feb 24, 2020:

Pelosi is an embarrassment and a hindrance.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

@rogerbenham She can't speak in complete sentences. She sounds drunk al the time.

It is telling that 5 out 6 of the presidential candidates of the organization which calls itself the...

dayII comments on Feb 22, 2020:

What does it tell you? Please expound.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

@Storm1752 The guy just became the first person in history from either party to win all three of the first states. Not electable my ass. Who do you believe is more electable than Bernie?

Bernie Could Win it All

RoboGraham comments on Feb 24, 2020:

At this point, if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, it will most likely be due to foul play on the part of the DNC.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

@St-Sinner The country became polarized because the neoliberals in both parties ignored the needs of the working class. It will continue to be polarized until a leader is able to fix it. There will be some divisiveness along the way but it can't be avoided. With Trump in the white house, polarization is the norm.

Bernie Could Win it All

RoboGraham comments on Feb 24, 2020:

At this point, if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, it will most likely be due to foul play on the part of the DNC.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

@St-Sinner And millions more support him.

Love this guys humor . Unique way to compare the candidates. [youtu.be]

rogerbenham comments on Feb 25, 2020:

Well I'm sure it is funny but I found his pronunciation very difficult to understand and his concepts too odd for me. Sorry.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

It's a southern thing. The basic gist of it is that Bernie is the best choice and if you don't want to eat delicious soup at the Sanders diner, well then we get more giggly nasty old Trump tuna cake.

Bernie Sanders is trying to make some subtle arguments with his recent comments about Fidel Castro.

Novelty comments on Feb 24, 2020:

The most fun is the stupid obvious subtlety’s when no one’s getting it. Like when Mom misunderstood someone and asked “Are you threatening me?” Close to the same way Bevis from Bevis and Butthead would say it. We have the movie, I was laughing to hard to explain and she just kept getting ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

I am the Great Cornholio!

It is telling that 5 out 6 of the presidential candidates of the organization which calls itself the...

dayII comments on Feb 22, 2020:

What does it tell you? Please expound.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

@Storm1752 Okay, how do you suggest we beat Trump?

It is telling that 5 out 6 of the presidential candidates of the organization which calls itself the...

Bierbasstard comments on Feb 22, 2020:

That might be because we live in a republic that has rules.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

@Storm1752 Unbalanced? How so? Enlighten us wise one.

It is telling that 5 out 6 of the presidential candidates of the organization which calls itself the...

Storm1752 comments on Feb 23, 2020:

Nah we're a bunch of neo-Stalinists who believe in fascist authoritarian dictatorships.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 25, 2020:

@Storm1752 Who?

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Sgt_Spanky comments on Feb 24, 2020:

You live in abject terror of Bernie running against Trump. You can see nothing but ignominious defeat if Bernie runs against Trump. Right now Bernie is the most likely candidate who's going to run against Trump so if that happens you need to get over all this shit and get behind him. What else ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@Sgt_Spanky I think he is an empty headed cable news parrot.

It is telling that 5 out 6 of the presidential candidates of the organization which calls itself the...

Storm1752 comments on Feb 23, 2020:

Nah we're a bunch of neo-Stalinists who believe in fascist authoritarian dictatorships.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@Storm1752 The republican establishment is very much plutocratic. But so is the democratic establishment. Bloomberg- He has 60 billion dollars, he was the mayor of the largest city in the nation, he owns a media conglomerate, and now he is running for president, in the democratic party. Can you think of any better example of a plutocratic oligarch than Michael Bloomberg?

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Tabor comments on Feb 24, 2020:

What's wrong with supporting a candidate based on ideals? This rush to the center because "it's the only way to beat Trump" just pushes the Democratics further to the right. The beat Trump at all cost mentality hurts the left, it certainly doesn't help it.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@St-Sinner So Bernie and Donny will be debating then ah? You've accepted that Bernie probably will be the nominee?

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Tabor comments on Feb 24, 2020:

What's wrong with supporting a candidate based on ideals? This rush to the center because "it's the only way to beat Trump" just pushes the Democratics further to the right. The beat Trump at all cost mentality hurts the left, it certainly doesn't help it.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@St-Sinner You are a saint. Just as Bloomberg is a terrific candidate for Sanders to run against, so will be Trump. A billionaire with a history of racist policies, sexual assault allegations, and self enrichment on the public dime. Bernie will carve him up like a thanksgiving turkey.

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Tabor comments on Feb 24, 2020:

What's wrong with supporting a candidate based on ideals? This rush to the center because "it's the only way to beat Trump" just pushes the Democratics further to the right. The beat Trump at all cost mentality hurts the left, it certainly doesn't help it.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@St-Sinner Bernie just became the first candidate in either party to win all three of the first states. Bernie is at the top of all the polls. Bernie has a massive devoted following that will smack down all nonsense coming from haters. Bernie has an unlimited supply of funds because his individual donor numbers keep climbing to new heights. The delusions here are your insistence that Bernie is a bad communist candidate who will wreck the party and ruin the country. You really are drinking too much aren't you.

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JeffMesser comments on Feb 24, 2020:

dont lecture me about national politics when you texas idiots can't control your own school board from white-washing history.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@desertastronomer Unfortunately, NPR has really gone downhill. I can't tell the difference between them and the corporate news network these days.

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Tabor comments on Feb 24, 2020:

What's wrong with supporting a candidate based on ideals? This rush to the center because "it's the only way to beat Trump" just pushes the Democratics further to the right. The beat Trump at all cost mentality hurts the left, it certainly doesn't help it.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@St-Sinner If it's not about "moderates, extremists, independents, programs, policies, good hearts, compassion or Mr. Nice Guy." What makes a good candidate good or a bad candidate bad?

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JeffMesser comments on Feb 24, 2020:

dont lecture me about national politics when you texas idiots can't control your own school board from white-washing history.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@JeffMesser Good for you man. I've never been, never plan to go. The only thing I like about Texas is Beavis and Butthead and King of the Hill.

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JeffMesser comments on Feb 24, 2020:

dont lecture me about national politics when you texas idiots can't control your own school board from white-washing history.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@JeffMesser This is making sense now about Mr. Sinner. He is all about the identity politics which makes him believe that he is a progressive but economically, he is a conservative.

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Sgt_Spanky comments on Feb 24, 2020:

You live in abject terror of Bernie running against Trump. You can see nothing but ignominious defeat if Bernie runs against Trump. Right now Bernie is the most likely candidate who's going to run against Trump so if that happens you need to get over all this shit and get behind him. What else ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@St-Sinner I got you to admit that you are overwhelmed and drinking too much and therefor we shouldn't pay attention to the things you say. Case closed. You just gave everyone permission to ignore your rubbish opinions because you can't even trust yourself to make clear decisions.

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JeffMesser comments on Feb 24, 2020:

dont lecture me about national politics when you texas idiots can't control your own school board from white-washing history.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@JeffMesser It must be a whole nother world down there. Where I'm from, being progressive means you almost definitely support Sanders or maybe Warren if you are progressive lite.

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Sgt_Spanky comments on Feb 24, 2020:

You live in abject terror of Bernie running against Trump. You can see nothing but ignominious defeat if Bernie runs against Trump. Right now Bernie is the most likely candidate who's going to run against Trump so if that happens you need to get over all this shit and get behind him. What else ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@St-Sinner It's not an attack if you did say that you are going to vote Trump, which you did, twice. Are you going to deny it?

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JeffMesser comments on Feb 24, 2020:

dont lecture me about national politics when you texas idiots can't control your own school board from white-washing history.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@St-Sinner How? Because you are putting out daily attacks on the progressive candidate. That makes you a reactionary. Progressives don't praise Trump's wall. Progressives don't cite right wing propaganda to attack the democratic front runner. Progressives don't call progressive policies "pie in the sky." Progressives don't openly talk about voting for Trump. Progressives understand the difference between socialism and social democracy. If you think you are a progressive, you are suffering from delusions.

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Tabor comments on Feb 24, 2020:

What's wrong with supporting a candidate based on ideals? This rush to the center because "it's the only way to beat Trump" just pushes the Democratics further to the right. The beat Trump at all cost mentality hurts the left, it certainly doesn't help it.

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

Yes. We tried running a moderate last time. Look what happened. In fact every moderate we ran this century failed. Gore- lost, Kerry- lost, Clinton- lost, Obama- won, but only because he ran on a hope and change progressive message. We win by turning out large numbers. We turn out large numbers by giving people a reason to believe that voting will be worth while, that actual positive change will come. You don't get that large turn out with a boring moderate promising status quo and a return to normalcy.

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Sgt_Spanky comments on Feb 24, 2020:

You live in abject terror of Bernie running against Trump. You can see nothing but ignominious defeat if Bernie runs against Trump. Right now Bernie is the most likely candidate who's going to run against Trump so if that happens you need to get over all this shit and get behind him. What else ...

RoboGraham replies on Feb 24, 2020:

@Sgt_Spanky @st-sinner is full of shit. He has admitted to me twice now that he will indeed vote for Trump. And yet, he calls himself a progressive.