Great and wise Senators.

bingst comments on Jan 2, 2020:

Are you admitting to being a troll? Picking arguments just rile up people? Are you really surprised you got blocked?

RoboGraham replies on Jan 2, 2020:

@hankster Sometimes you get to level 7 and you don't know all the rules yet. It happen

Great and wise Senators.

EyesThatSmile comments on Jan 2, 2020:

An informative discussion is more than welcome here. But most people don’t have time (or patience) to read through arguments.

RoboGraham replies on Jan 2, 2020:

I do enjoy informative discussions as well.

Great and wise Senators.

NoPlanetB comments on Jan 2, 2020:

What's up is your opponent has finally realized you are taunting them disingenuously in your argument. Good on them. Your whiny post here leads me to predict your future engagements are likely to be similar.

RoboGraham replies on Jan 2, 2020:

But I taunt very ingenuously.

Great and wise Senators.

bingst comments on Jan 2, 2020:

Are you admitting to being a troll? Picking arguments just rile up people? Are you really surprised you got blocked?

RoboGraham replies on Jan 2, 2020:

I hope the sarcasm is transmitting properly on that last one. I'm not actually trying to rile you.

Great and wise Senators.

bingst comments on Jan 2, 2020:

Are you admitting to being a troll? Picking arguments just rile up people? Are you really surprised you got blocked?

RoboGraham replies on Jan 2, 2020:

Sometimes people need a little riling. Why you got a problem with it?

Great and wise Senators.

IamNobody comments on Jan 2, 2020:

You have been blocked !!!.... I hope this will enlighten you enough.... :)

RoboGraham replies on Jan 2, 2020:

@IamNobody Thanks for the info

Great and wise Senators.

1of5 comments on Jan 2, 2020:

You got blocked by them *or* one of you stepped over the line and the post(s) were removed. I'd put money on being blocked, though.

RoboGraham replies on Jan 2, 2020:

What must I do to step over this line?

Great and wise Senators.

IamNobody comments on Jan 2, 2020:

You have been blocked !!!.... I hope this will enlighten you enough.... :)

RoboGraham replies on Jan 2, 2020:

@KKGator Some people have such thin skins. The last time this happened, I was being reasonable, he was being outrageous and acting like a tough guy so I assumed he wouldn't decide to block me and it was administration because of all the craziness he was saying.

Great and wise Senators.

IamNobody comments on Jan 2, 2020:

You have been blocked !!!.... I hope this will enlighten you enough.... :)

RoboGraham replies on Jan 2, 2020:

Is it the other member blocking me or the administration?

Balloon Juice | Under the Radar

RoboGraham comments on Jan 2, 2020:

Pro-Bernie comment posted. Let's see how they respond.

RoboGraham replies on Jan 2, 2020:

@WilliamCharles That wasserman schultz person is a slimy worm.

Balloon Juice | Under the Radar

RoboGraham comments on Jan 2, 2020:

Pro-Bernie comment posted. Let's see how they respond.

RoboGraham replies on Jan 2, 2020:

@WilliamCharles I never even heard about that. Sounds ridiculous. If anything negative were to happen concerning anyone even remotely connected to Bernie, the media would be all over it. Some people don't care how reasonable your argument is, if it isn't what they want to hear, you're out. I'm getting very frustrated with thin skinned people getting upset and tossing me out of the discussion when I offer some constructive criticism. I've gotten the boot out of several groups on this site so I just recently created a group of my own for people who want to talk about issues without fear of censorship and the PC police. It's called Anything Goes Political.

I am wondering why liberals can not present a united front. Why so much infighting?

CarolinaGirl60 comments on Dec 15, 2019:

I had many friends last time who voted 3rd party on principle because Bernie didnt get the nomination. Those votes essentially were wasted. It haunts me, that if all the third party voters had gone blue, might Hillary have won?

RoboGraham replies on Jan 2, 2020:

@genessa This group is about liberals getting along with liberals. A great way to make that happen is for Hillary supporters to stop blaming Bernie supporters for her lose. If she were the opposite of a terrible candidate she wouldn't have lost to Donald Trump. Going up against that moron should have been an easy win but she bungled it. Calling potential voters deplorable is not how you get people on your side. She won the popular vote. That's great, doesn't matter though, that's not how our system works. Of course she was very accomplished. All presidential candidates are. That doesn't necessarily make her a good candidate. She had little to offer. The ability to offer criticism is important when discussing presidential candidates. If you want to call it bashing and restrict me in this group, fine I'll leave you to your echo chamber. Might be better if we hear the voices of everyone on our side though.

I am wondering why liberals can not present a united front. Why so much infighting?

CarolinaGirl60 comments on Dec 15, 2019:

I had many friends last time who voted 3rd party on principle because Bernie didnt get the nomination. Those votes essentially were wasted. It haunts me, that if all the third party voters had gone blue, might Hillary have won?

RoboGraham replies on Jan 2, 2020:

@genessa Blaming Bernie supporters for Hillary's loss is absurd. She was a terrible candidate. If not for super delegates and her commandeering of the DNC, she probably would have lost the primary too. She had nothing substantive. It was only 4 years ago and I can't even recall what she was running on and I pay attention to politics. What was her message? What was her platform? All she had was that she is the former first lady, former secretary of state and she is a woman. Nothing that actually motivates people to get out and vote. She neglected the rust belt, pissed off regular people with her deplorables comment, and offered nothing but status quo. Hillary's loss is Hillary's fault. She arrogantly thought she had it in the bag. It was her turn, she deserved it, she thought. No, you actually have to earn people's votes, not just expect them to shut up and get in line. After her colossal failure, she blamed Russia, she blamed Bernie, she blamed racism and sexism. A true leader takes responsibility for failure rather than pointing out scapegoats. Bernie campaigned for her after the primary. He encouraged unity and solidarity against Trump. Some of his supporters couldn't in good conciseness vote for a corporatist warmonger like her. They don't deserve blame for that. That is a moral decision. It's not their voting that is the problem, it's the terrible candidate that they couldn't bring themselves to vote for. I was and am a staunch Sanders supporter but I did vote for Clinton in 2016. If another Hillary Clintonesque candidate is nominated this time around, I might vote democrat again but if that happens, we will probably get four more years of Trump because people are not inspired by these establishment democrats who have little to offer other than identity politics and being somewhat better than Trump.

While ameriKKKa sits on bullets with a finger on the trigger.

moosepucky comments on Dec 21, 2019:

New Zealand, Australia, and England are islands. Even the Germans were only successful in getting 1 U-boad full of arms into England (it's an island, remember). The main shipment of arms was intercepted. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Libau

RoboGraham replies on Jan 1, 2020:

@GipsyOfNewSpain I think the guerrilla fighters of Vietnam and Afghanistan would disagree with your assumption that the American military is invincible. Your comparison of the right to bear arms to slavery is just wrong. Slavery was never a constitutionally protected practice as the right to bear arms is. It was an immoral institution that was tolerated for a while. The reason for the 2nd Amendment is not an excuse, it's as relevant today as it was when it was written.

By Americans Defending The Consitution Them's fighting words.

RoboGraham comments on Dec 29, 2019:

Who killed millions of babies?

RoboGraham replies on Jan 1, 2020:

@ArtemisDivine I'll make that comparison about all advanced organisms. They all have brain activity, heart beats, and ability to feel pain. Those characteristics don't make them human babies. A fetus is not a baby. The absolutely disgusting thing is you falsely accusing people of murder.

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MichaelSpinler comments on Dec 31, 2019:

why is it so hard to get boomers? stop watching rachel madcow, the propaganda queen. morning joe as well. its no better than fox news, in fact its worse, because people watching msn think they are doing better tyan fox, and tend to be better educated, which makes it harder to get them to ...

RoboGraham replies on Jan 1, 2020:

It gives the illusion that there is an opposition party resisting the president.

By Americans Defending The Consitution Them's fighting words.

RoboGraham comments on Dec 29, 2019:

Who killed millions of babies?

RoboGraham replies on Jan 1, 2020:

@ArtemisDivine A worm has a heart beat, electrical activity in the brain, and can feel pain. Those characteristics don't make something a person.

Greta Thunberg said she wouldn’t have met with Trump. Do you agree with her assessment of him?

St-Sinner comments on Dec 30, 2019:

I do not care what she says. She is an immature, ill-behaved brat. She needs to finish growing up and school first which includes rules for basic decent behavior in public. Many social issues are caused by people who were not launched properly in the world by their parents. No child would yell at ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 31, 2019:

@St-Sinner So she is too wealthy to be a proper activist? I don't like Kardashians and Paris Hilton either but I don't see Greta as being anything like them. They are frivolous wastes of space while she is a woman on a mission.

Greta Thunberg said she wouldn’t have met with Trump. Do you agree with her assessment of him?

St-Sinner comments on Dec 30, 2019:

I do not care what she says. She is an immature, ill-behaved brat. She needs to finish growing up and school first which includes rules for basic decent behavior in public. Many social issues are caused by people who were not launched properly in the world by their parents. No child would yell at ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 31, 2019:

@St-Sinner It sounds like the problem you have with her it's that she is too vocal. But being vocal is her function. She is an activist, the more people are aware of her and her message the better. The fact that she has inspired you to write all of these comments on this topic means that she is doing her job well.

Greta Thunberg said she wouldn’t have met with Trump. Do you agree with her assessment of him?

St-Sinner comments on Dec 30, 2019:

I do not care what she says. She is an immature, ill-behaved brat. She needs to finish growing up and school first which includes rules for basic decent behavior in public. Many social issues are caused by people who were not launched properly in the world by their parents. No child would yell at ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 31, 2019:

@St-Sinner if there is no crisis, why does it matter if she does harm to the cause?

‘I don’t believe in violence, but…’: Trump’s most rabid supporters warn of ‘civil war’...

Sticks48 comments on Dec 31, 2019:

So they are going to war with the U.S. military? I would love to see that. That would be an entertaining 30 minutes.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 31, 2019:

A great way to eliminate some dangerous people.

Greta Thunberg said she wouldn’t have met with Trump. Do you agree with her assessment of him?

St-Sinner comments on Dec 30, 2019:

I do not care what she says. She is an immature, ill-behaved brat. She needs to finish growing up and school first which includes rules for basic decent behavior in public. Many social issues are caused by people who were not launched properly in the world by their parents. No child would yell at ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 31, 2019:

I'd say that sailing around the world, meeting leaders, giving speeches and being involved in activism is a better launching than most parents are able to provide their children. She may be a bit immature but she is only 16. No she shouldn't grow up first. Her entire appeal is that she is a child who is fully dedicated to this cause. She is the representative of the children who will have to clean up the mess that we are making. I'd say her being rude to leaders is justified. It's more rude of them to do nothing while the crisis continues. In your view she blew it. As I see it, her outburst caused a big splash. It got lots of people talking about this issue and that is her entire purpose. So I'd say she nailed it.

2 dead, 1 in critical condition in shooting at Texas church [nbcnews.com]

Lauren comments on Dec 29, 2019:

It's so tragic ... and so, so frequent.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 30, 2019:

@TheGreatShadow When I was under age, I used to use that argument all the time. If I'm mature enough for war, I'm mature enough for beer, I would say. Now I realize that I wasn't mature enough for either of those things. We should stop sending people with underdeveloped brains into battle. But it's because of their immaturity that teenagers are so enthusiastic and naive which makes them good soldiers. So they will continue recruiting them. If people weren't eligible for military service until 25, I'd be fine with restricting guns to those under 25.

There are over 100 different types of Socialism, ranging from the energy co-ops that exist in 47 US ...

RoboGraham comments on Dec 30, 2019:

Some very good points. The waters are so muddied when discussing socialism that it can feel useless. Many think that socialism and communism are two words for the same system. The way I see it, socialism is when all workers have representation and a significant amount of participation in the ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 30, 2019:

@Happy_Killbot That's very interesting about the lack of minimum wage I didn't know that. Pretty cool that their unions are so strong, wide spread, and skilled at negotiating wages that the government need not intervene. The Norwegians did that with their oil jack pot. The others are thriving by taxing the very wealthy and investing in social institutions and the advancement of average people. They also have the advantage of being friends of the American empire so they are spared the freedom enhancement that other leftist countries have to endure.

Nancy Pelosi has the right to submit Donald Trump to an ‘involuntary’ psych evaluation: Yale ...

UrsiMajor comments on Dec 27, 2019:

I'm sure Nancy Pelosi has considered this option. If it would work to our advantage, she would do it. Pelosi is one of the most brilliant, under-rated politicians of our lifetime. Have faith.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 30, 2019:

@MojoDave She reauthorized the patriot act, increased Trump's military budget by billions and allowed the creation of space force while simultaneously impeaching him for high crimes and abuse of power. That makes no sense. If she knows what she is doing, why would she give him even more power while attempting to have him removed from office because he abused his power?

2 dead, 1 in critical condition in shooting at Texas church [nbcnews.com]

Lauren comments on Dec 29, 2019:

It's so tragic ... and so, so frequent.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 30, 2019:

@TheGreatShadow How can we arm 18 year olds and send them off to war but force them to wait until they turn 25 to get a gun of their own?

By Americans Defending The Consitution Them's fighting words.

RoboGraham comments on Dec 29, 2019:

Who killed millions of babies?

RoboGraham replies on Dec 29, 2019:

@ArtemisDivine How is ending a pregnancy killing a baby?

This is one of the things that is wrong with inequality.

RoboGraham comments on Dec 29, 2019:

The majority of Americans don't realize that during the time of our most abundant economic growth, the 1950s and 60s, we had a tax policy similar to what you are proposing here.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 29, 2019:

@ToolGuy What do you think ought to be done with the money that is taxed?

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RoboGraham comments on Dec 28, 2019:

This is why we must abandon all corporate media. Not just fox.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 29, 2019:

@MichaelSpinler Thank goodness for Jimmy Dore.

This is one of the things that is wrong with inequality.

RoboGraham comments on Dec 29, 2019:

The majority of Americans don't realize that during the time of our most abundant economic growth, the 1950s and 60s, we had a tax policy similar to what you are proposing here.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 29, 2019:

@ToolGuy You got that right. If they are allowed to keep all of it, they can use it to buy influence and with the influence they can shape the economic rules in their favor allowing them to make even more and buy even more influence and the cycle continues on and on at the expense of everyone else. Better to use those funds for the common good.

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RoboGraham comments on Dec 28, 2019:

This is why we must abandon all corporate media. Not just fox.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 29, 2019:

@MichaelSpinler I think there is a difference between the two. Rachel is smart, she knows whats what. She intentionally misleads people in her news segments for the money. She makes a lot of it. So she is a sell out. Alex Jones on the other hand, I don't know what his deal is but smart is not a word that comes to mind when I think of him.

FUCK WITH JANUARY 1 You agnostics and Atheists here, don't start doing silly happy new year's ...

RoboGraham comments on Dec 28, 2019:

The Gregorian calender is just an updated version of the Julian calender. The first day of the year being set on January 1st has nothing to do with christianity. It's because the Romans decided to place the first day of the year on the day that the new Consuls took office for the year which happened...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 28, 2019:

@t1nick Your welcome. Always glad to come across others who are interested in this trivial sort of stuff.

Here goes nothing.

RoboGraham comments on Dec 27, 2019:

I don't recall communalism as ever having been a major issue. So were you protesting something and someone claimed to know all about it?

RoboGraham replies on Dec 28, 2019:

@zero_deaths Is this in India? Are you muslim? What is it that you are protesting? Is it the new law that allows people from neighboring countries to get citizenship but not muslims? That all sounds horrible. I wish you good fortune.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

David1955 comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Does the prospect of a real progressive President -- Sanders -- worry you that much? Guess so. Watching the mainstream media's attempts to scuttle and ignore Bernie's campaign is almost as amusing as watching all those corporate Democrats do the same. Bernie's popularity and loyalty amongst his ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

@St-Sinner Me too

White Christian America ended in the 2010s

David1955 comments on Dec 27, 2019:

Enemies are never more dangerous than when cornered, to quote a cliche. They see their salvation in an American variant of 'National Socialism' and it will get worse.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

Unfortunately, I think you are right about that. Which is why we must be ready counter the threat.

We are being robbed . . . .

RoboGraham comments on Dec 27, 2019:

Yes and the democrats just recently approved Trump's budget increasing the military budget by billions more and creating a space force. Both parties are in on it. Both parties are putting the wants of the military industrial complex over the needs of the people.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

@TomMcGiverin See that's the problem. The MIC has it's tentacles all over the country so all politicians everywhere are incentivized to feed it. Bernie at least has integrity and will do all that can be done.

We are being robbed . . . .

bingst comments on Dec 27, 2019:

I'm sure this was the real reason behind the Space Farce. I've heard several things about this latest discretionary spending and it leaves me wondering why Democrats went along with it.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

@Archeus_Lore I'd agree that a vote for a democrat is a vote for endless war with the exception of Bernie Sanders.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

David1955 comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Does the prospect of a real progressive President -- Sanders -- worry you that much? Guess so. Watching the mainstream media's attempts to scuttle and ignore Bernie's campaign is almost as amusing as watching all those corporate Democrats do the same. Bernie's popularity and loyalty amongst his ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

@St-Sinner This is not a military defensive wall that he is building. It is not concrete, it has no bunkers or parapets. It is a glorified fence that makes it a bit harder for civilians to cross. If a military force wanted to cross, this wall would be no obstacle at all. Have you ever heard of the Maginot Line? Now that was a true military defensive barrier. Did it do any good? Not even a little bit. Who do we have to fear on our southern border anyway? Mexico? I don' think you like Trump, you have made that clear. I'm just perplexed that you are able to see how terrible he is but are still entertaining the idea of voting for him. It just does not compute in my mind.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

David1955 comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Does the prospect of a real progressive President -- Sanders -- worry you that much? Guess so. Watching the mainstream media's attempts to scuttle and ignore Bernie's campaign is almost as amusing as watching all those corporate Democrats do the same. Bernie's popularity and loyalty amongst his ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

@St-Sinner Right, smart technology will stop people coming in. The actual physical wall is just an expensive rallying cry. At least DACA was something. It's not their fault they were brought here as children. Yes I say it should be merit based but also the level of vulnerability of a person should be taken into account. If sending you back is basically a death sentence, you should be allowed to stay. The homelessness issue is actually a pretty easy one to solve. They lack homes, okay let's build them some housing. With 3d printing technology, bare necessity housing can be produced quickly and cheaply. If we spent a small fraction of what we waste on the military budget on building houses for the homeless, the problem would be solved. We could also subsidize housing for low income people more than we do now and end some of these zoning laws that restrict the amount of affordable housing an area can have. If we make it easier for people to afford a place to live, fewer would end up homeless. We could also create a universal healthcare system which would drastically reduce the monthly expenses of average people leaving them better able to afford housing.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

David1955 comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Does the prospect of a real progressive President -- Sanders -- worry you that much? Guess so. Watching the mainstream media's attempts to scuttle and ignore Bernie's campaign is almost as amusing as watching all those corporate Democrats do the same. Bernie's popularity and loyalty amongst his ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

@St-Sinner So you recognize that Trump has implemented immigration rules badly and that caging people at the border is wrong but you are still willing to vote for him? Do you realize that he reduced the number of immigration judges causing people to have to wait longer to be turned away which increased the profits of the his friends who are making money off of caging these people? I'm totally fine with turning away people and having them find refuge elsewhere but this president isn't even doing that right. Yes we have built a great country and yes we have a right to protect it. I'm saying that a wall is not a smart way to do that. Sure it's a deterrent and sure it makes it a bit harder to cross but the resources spent far outweigh the effectiveness of it as a deterrent. I'm not in very good shape but I guarantee you that if I had a reason to be determined enough, I would get my ass over that wall. Or under it or through it or around it. Yes we need to address the homelessness crisis and help the hungry. Who is the best candidate to do that? Do I even need to say his name?

We are being robbed . . . .

bingst comments on Dec 27, 2019:

I'm sure this was the real reason behind the Space Farce. I've heard several things about this latest discretionary spending and it leaves me wondering why Democrats went along with it.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

They went along with it because they are just as beholden to the military special interests as the republicans are.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

David1955 comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Does the prospect of a real progressive President -- Sanders -- worry you that much? Guess so. Watching the mainstream media's attempts to scuttle and ignore Bernie's campaign is almost as amusing as watching all those corporate Democrats do the same. Bernie's popularity and loyalty amongst his ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

@St-Sinner No, I haven't which is why I'm curious about your insights. I'm in favor of diversity but I don't want just anyone coming in. It ought to be done legally. My issue is that we are turning away and caging people who are legitimate refugees fleeing from danger and chaos that our government's policies have created down south. I don't particularly want all those people to come here but we do have a moral and even legal obligation to offer them refugee status. We need to find a way to keep out the people who don't belong but I don't see a wall as being the best option. Any able bodied person can get over the wall with a rope or ladder. Particularly fit people can just climb it with no assistance at all. They are already cutting wholes in it and driving vehicles through. Tunnels can be dug under it and with so much border, how can the entire thing be monitored? To me, it seems like a massive waste of resources. Not to mention the fact that it doesn't stop people arriving by boat or plain. It is harmful to the environment and it forces people to give up land that many of them don't want to give up. I think this problem will be solved with modern technology, not ancient methods.

Just got a "personal" email from Elixabeth Warren telling me what a tough life she has had, and ...

Barnie2years comments on Dec 27, 2019:

I assume that’s campaign money she is asking for. Since she is looking to fund her campaign with small, individual donors, she has to spread the net wide!

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

That's true. However, she has stated that, in the general, she will be willing to take corporate money just like the rest of them.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

David1955 comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Does the prospect of a real progressive President -- Sanders -- worry you that much? Guess so. Watching the mainstream media's attempts to scuttle and ignore Bernie's campaign is almost as amusing as watching all those corporate Democrats do the same. Bernie's popularity and loyalty amongst his ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

@St-Sinner Were you a refugee? Do you think the wall is a good solution?

Hey Trumpers-Republicans: "During the House Intelligence Committee's investigation of President ...

FearlessFly comments on Dec 27, 2019:

. . . kinda "preaching to the choir" :O

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

@FearlessFly Agreed.

Hey Trumpers-Republicans: "During the House Intelligence Committee's investigation of President ...

FearlessFly comments on Dec 27, 2019:

. . . kinda "preaching to the choir" :O

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

@FearlessFly If you look at the discussion above, you'll see some non ad hominem arguments which reveals who isn't so bright.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

David1955 comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Does the prospect of a real progressive President -- Sanders -- worry you that much? Guess so. Watching the mainstream media's attempts to scuttle and ignore Bernie's campaign is almost as amusing as watching all those corporate Democrats do the same. Bernie's popularity and loyalty amongst his ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

@St-Sinner Desperate times call for desperate measures, like electing a social democrat. It's during times when things are politically chaotic and people feel uneasy that an out of the ordinary candidate has a chance at winning. The only other time a leader like Sanders has ever been elected was during the desperation of the great depression. If I'm not mistaken, you once told me you would vote Trump if you didn't like the democrat opposing him. Have you had a change of heart?

Trump's base of support continues to erode. Yay!

ToolGuy comments on Dec 27, 2019:

It would be great if this holds. But it will depend on who is chosen by the Dems to run a against him!

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

Unfortunately, the perception that this post presents is misleading. His approval numbers were significantly lower in September than they are now. His support has been climbing ever since impeachment began.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

David1955 comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Does the prospect of a real progressive President -- Sanders -- worry you that much? Guess so. Watching the mainstream media's attempts to scuttle and ignore Bernie's campaign is almost as amusing as watching all those corporate Democrats do the same. Bernie's popularity and loyalty amongst his ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

@St-Sinner It's good to be pragmatic. It's good that there are people who think the way you do to balance out people who think as I do. You're right, neoliberalism has a stranglehold on American power and culture. It is unlikely and it will be extremely difficult but it's worth fighting for. Even if it doesn't work, which admittedly it probably won't, the struggle will be worth while because it will move things forward. It has been Bernie's function all along to be the avant garde of progressiveism. He blazes the trail, he brings "radical" ideas to the fore and later they become mainstream. I don't deny the reality of the unlikeliness of him becoming president. There are a tremendous amount of obstacles. I support him despite the knowledge that it may be a lost cause because, in running, he is getting his forward thinking vision into the minds of people who otherwise wouldn't be exposed to such things. And if he were to actually get elected, that would be momentous. It's not out of the question. No one thought Trump had a chance. Did you? but here we are. People are fed up with the mainstream establishment and are willing to gamble on something different and bold.

Nancy Pelosi has the right to submit Donald Trump to an ‘involuntary’ psych evaluation: Yale ...

UrsiMajor comments on Dec 27, 2019:

I'm sure Nancy Pelosi has considered this option. If it would work to our advantage, she would do it. Pelosi is one of the most brilliant, under-rated politicians of our lifetime. Have faith.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 27, 2019:

Right, that's why she brilliantly acquiesced to all of Trump's demands in the most recent budget negotiation.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

JacarC comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Reason: Biden is the closest to center of the oldsters. Klobuchar is a good choice. Tulsi is my fave, but is way too young. Same with the Butt....

RoboGraham replies on Dec 26, 2019:

@linxminx That's great to hear. Thanks for hearing me out.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

JacarC comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Reason: Biden is the closest to center of the oldsters. Klobuchar is a good choice. Tulsi is my fave, but is way too young. Same with the Butt....

RoboGraham replies on Dec 26, 2019:

@linxminx Sure, old white men have disproportionately been in power for far too long and they have ran things to benefit themselves above all others. However, that doesn't make them all bad. To judge Bernie by his age/race/gender is to play identity politics. Judge him on his record. Judge him by his policies. Judge him by his integrity, consistency, tenacity, and leadership. The man has opposed the traditional old white male patriarchy from the start. He stood up during the civil rights movement. He has always been supportive of a woman's right to choose. He has opposed our foreign wars, the old white male patriarchy's attempts to spread it's power and dominance throughout the world. He is fighting for the little guy. Healthcare for all, a livable minimum wage, public college, debt relief... despite his old white guyness, he is our best bet for reducing wealth inequality, addressing the climate crisis, and reducing the massive wastefulness of the military industrial complex and the never ending foreign wars. I get it. We've had a long line of old white men and it's time for a change. If there was a non old white guy running who had half of what Sanders brings to the table, I'd wholeheartedly throw my support behind her. But frankly, unfortunately, that is not the case. So I ask you to please set aside his identity and judge him on his merits.

Trump's base of support continues to erode. Yay!

RoboGraham comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Let's keep in mind that dailykos.com is a left leaning partisan site. Not exactly unbiased or reliable. From everything I've seen, his support has actually gone up since impeachment, unfortunately.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 26, 2019:

@LiterateHiker If you look at the numbers, his approval rating was declining until October then it began to climb again. The impeachment inquiry began in September. According to Gallop, he was at 39% in early October. Now he is at 45%. realclearpolitics had him at 41% in October and 44.5% now. According to The Hill, Trump's approval rating has increased 6% since impeachment began. I don't say this because I like Trump or just to be argumentative. It is important to see things as they are. As it was for Bill Clinton, impeachment is helping Trump politically and those of us who oppose him need to recognize that.

Trump's base of support continues to erode. Yay!

RoboGraham comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Let's keep in mind that dailykos.com is a left leaning partisan site. Not exactly unbiased or reliable. From everything I've seen, his support has actually gone up since impeachment, unfortunately.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 26, 2019:

@LiterateHiker I didn't hear it from Trump, I don't believe a word that comes out of criminals mouth.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

JacarC comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Reason: Biden is the closest to center of the oldsters. Klobuchar is a good choice. Tulsi is my fave, but is way too young. Same with the Butt....

RoboGraham replies on Dec 26, 2019:

@linxminx Bernie out of touch? There has never been a politician more in touch with the common people in modern times than Bernie Sanders. What does his age, gender, or race have to do with anything?

I'll take useful idiot for $2000, Alex.

RoboGraham comments on Dec 26, 2019:

What is the liberal fake news?

RoboGraham replies on Dec 26, 2019:

@dokala Yeah fuck corporate media. Their commodity is entertainment and outrage. Their agenda is profit and manufacturing consent. Total garbage all around.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

David1955 comments on Dec 26, 2019:

Does the prospect of a real progressive President -- Sanders -- worry you that much? Guess so. Watching the mainstream media's attempts to scuttle and ignore Bernie's campaign is almost as amusing as watching all those corporate Democrats do the same. Bernie's popularity and loyalty amongst his ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 26, 2019:

@St-Sinner You are glossing over the fact that Sanders has more support in the rust belt than any corporate democrat ever will. And now that that he is prominent in the polls, the media is forced to lift the blackout to some extent. The more his message is broadcasted, the more support he gains and the more the media are forced to pay attention to him.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

aintmisbehaven comments on Dec 26, 2019:

don't care what it says above.... Bernie's my man. EDIT: and I feel like pointing out that the graph is based on who "prominent members of their party" are supporting. THAT is part of the problem.... "prominent members of their party".... in other words, people with money, BIG money.... those FEW...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 26, 2019:

Yes, the way I see it, the more of those prominent endorsements a candidate has, the less that candidate represents the people.

The Importance and Relevance of Endorsements in Presidential Candidates Joe BIden has the most ...

farmboy2017 comments on Dec 26, 2019:

We have no better choices in this election than we did in the last one...on either side. Sad.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 26, 2019:

Who would you like to see running?

Do you approve capital punishment?

lerlo comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Yes it should exist because otherwise inmates can kill guards and other inmates with impunity if they're already doing a life sentence.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 24, 2019:

@lerlo No, I don't think that. So it appears that you have given up. I'll take your lack of an attempt to refute the arguments I laid out or to answer the question I asked as admission of defeat. See you around.

Do you approve capital punishment?

twill comments on Dec 23, 2019:

There are some sick fucks that don't deserve to be fed, watered and housed by us taxpayers until they die. Otoh, there are many prosecutors that don't have any skin in the game. They need to be held accountable for any of their negligible actions and criminal intent.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 24, 2019:

@vjohnson51 Yeah it's counterintuitive so people assume that it's the other way around. I've gotten into a couple of arguments on this thread that you created about that very issue and these guys just refuse to believe it. You wrote a paper about this?

A little something from the Libertarian party

RoboGraham comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I'm down with some of this. No victim = no crime, addicts need treatment not punishment, bombing abroad is stupid, that's all great stuff. I take issue with the whole no one should be taxed and we should all rely on ourselves and the kindness of each other. A world without taxation and social ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 24, 2019:

@Bushshaker You think it's a good idea to do away with corporate income tax and estate tax?

Do you approve capital punishment?

lerlo comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Yes it should exist because otherwise inmates can kill guards and other inmates with impunity if they're already doing a life sentence.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 24, 2019:

@lerlo I have stated that I am against killing, except in self defense and and war. Perhaps you can't read? most people are against killing in a civilized world. You are the outlier here. You really should drop the lighthouse line of reasoning, it's doing you more harm than good. Again, you are the one making the claim that execution is an effective deterrent. If your argument is that, it can't be disproved that it is a deterrent, therefore we need to keep using it, you are thinking very irrationally. I could argue the same for prayer. You can't disprove that praying to not be murdered everyday prevents/deters murderers from killing. Therefore we must continue praying. Does that make sense to you? This logic is very faulty. If you execute someone, you prevent them from causing harm to others, sure. But an equally effective way to do that is to keep the person locked in segregation for life. How can a 19 year old be executed? It takes 10-20 years or more. So the kid must have done the crime at 9 at the oldest. We don't execute people for crimes committed when they are small children. Even the hardliners would disagree with you there. Just proclaiming that keeping people in prison for life is more expensive than execution doesn't make it so. Do some research, look at the numbers. It's all readily accessible to you, just a quick google search will show you how wrong you are but you refuse do your due diligence. You'd rather continue making the same ignorant claims blissfully unaware that you are utterly incorrect. Did you bother to have a look at the article I put in the last comment? Have you done anything other than make assumptions? Will you provide any evidence to back up your bogus claim that execution is an effective deterrent or that it is cheaper than life in prison? I'm not the one ignoring what the other person says here. I have confronted all of your flawed arguments and showed you how they are incorrect. You on the other hand ignored my question concerning states that legalized the death penalty having higher murder rates than those that have outlawed it. How do yo explain that? Also, we can see that light houses work. We can look at it statistically. Before the light house, x number of ships were sunk on the rocks. After the light house was built, y number of ship were sunk. If x is significantly larger than y, you know the light house is working.

Do you approve capital punishment?

lerlo comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Yes it should exist because otherwise inmates can kill guards and other inmates with impunity if they're already doing a life sentence.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 24, 2019:

@lerlo If you want to bring Trump into this, he supports capital punishment. I declared myself the winner because I logically checkmated you. You said "There is no way for anyone to know how many people don't get killed because of the death penalty." Okay if there is no way to know then you cannot say it is an effective deterrent, which is your entire argument. You have no ground to stand on. But actually there is a way to know. You can look at what the people who have actually studied the deterrent hypothesis have written and see that they have concluded overwhelmingly that it does not function as a deterrent. Either way, you are wrong. I have described to you the costs of capital punishment compared to life without parole. I'm not going to layout all the facts for you. You are a grown up, I'm sure you are capable of looking into it yourself. It only takes a simple google search and a bit of motivation to read rather than just declaring that it's not out there. As for the light houses, that's an entirely different scenario. People understand that light means land so they keep away. I ignored this question because it is a terrible example, a false equivalence. The light house doesn't deter them from hitting land, it is an aid, not a deterrent, they don't want to hit the land, they are trying to not hit land regardless of if there is a light house or not. If they do hit rocks, it's by accident. In contrast, killers want to kill, that's why they do it. The light house help people avoid doing something they don't want to do. Capital punishment is supposed to prevent people from doing something that they do want to do but it doesn't actually work. Here is a question for you. If Capital punishment is an effective deterrent, why do the states that have the death penalty have higher murder rates? If you don't believe that's true, google it. I'll also offer you the following article from the new york times- https://www.nytimes.com/2000/09/22/us/absence-executions-special-report-states-with-no-death-penalty-share-lower.html

Do you approve capital punishment?

lerlo comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Yes it should exist because otherwise inmates can kill guards and other inmates with impunity if they're already doing a life sentence.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 24, 2019:

@lerlo It's not just me and somebody else proclaiming it, it's me and the experts who have done the research. If there is no way to know how many people don't get killed because of the death penalty, you have no way to prove that it is an effective deterrent. If you have no way to prove that it is an effective deterrent, how can you justify using it when you know full well that using it will result in the deaths of innocent people? You are the one making the claim that it is an effective deterrent. You see that the evidence and studies don't back up your claim so now your argument is that there is no way to know if it works or not. Your line of reasoning is weak and you have lost this argument. It takes 19 years and all the appeals because the justice system is flawed and executions are final so they want to make damn sure that they are about to kill the right person. Even with this long expensive process, they still get it wrong occasionally and an innocent person dies. Would you rather executions be expedited and even more prone to ending the lives of innocent people? As far as the expenses, again, google it. The results it pulls up will overwhelmingly support the fact that capital punishment is more expensive. Death penalty cases cost millions. Life in prison without parole cases are very expensive too but death penalty cases are so much more expensive that, even including the costs of imprisoning the person for life, death penalty cases are still much more costly. And the prisoner has to be held for 19 years or however long it takes to get through appeals and that adds even more cost on top of the massive bill for the capital punishment case and all the appeals.

Do you approve capital punishment?

twill comments on Dec 23, 2019:

There are some sick fucks that don't deserve to be fed, watered and housed by us taxpayers until they die. Otoh, there are many prosecutors that don't have any skin in the game. They need to be held accountable for any of their negligible actions and criminal intent.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 23, 2019:

@twill Yeah, court costs. The average price tag per execution is 1 and a quarter million. The average life in prison cost is around 3/4 million.

Do you approve capital punishment?

twill comments on Dec 23, 2019:

There are some sick fucks that don't deserve to be fed, watered and housed by us taxpayers until they die. Otoh, there are many prosecutors that don't have any skin in the game. They need to be held accountable for any of their negligible actions and criminal intent.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 23, 2019:

It's more expensive to execute than it is to keep a person in prison for life.

Do you approve capital punishment?

Word comments on Dec 23, 2019:

A dog with rabies that is not curable would best be put to sleep to minimize its suffering and prevent it from biting anyone to pass on rabies. People are animals. I would say in circumstances of overwhelming evidence that the person is very sick in the head then it is best to put them to ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 23, 2019:

If the risk of innocent people being executed is a sticking point for you, you should oppose capital punishment because the justice system if run by humans and humans are flawed. There will be mistakes, innocent people will die.

Do you approve capital punishment?

lerlo comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Yes it should exist because otherwise inmates can kill guards and other inmates with impunity if they're already doing a life sentence.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 23, 2019:

@lerlo I do have something other than the morality augment actually. It is more expensive to execute than to give a life sentence.

Do you approve capital punishment?

lerlo comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Yes it should exist because otherwise inmates can kill guards and other inmates with impunity if they're already doing a life sentence.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 23, 2019:

@lerlo Okay let's talk deterrence. Type the following words into your google browser- is capital punishment an effective deterrent- see what comes up and then let's have a discussion.

Do you approve capital punishment?

lerlo comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Yes it should exist because otherwise inmates can kill guards and other inmates with impunity if they're already doing a life sentence.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 23, 2019:

@lerlo I did make my own comment, you can see my take on it there. If you can't deal with being disagreed with, perhaps you ought not post comments on these contentious topics. People dying in vehicle crashes is totally different, it's not a human being intentionally killed by other humans as execution is. Yes I think killing is wrong and shouldn't be done except in self defense and war. Most of the world agrees with me. This barbaric practice has been abolished in the majority of countries including all of the rest of the 1st world.

A little something from the Libertarian party

RoboGraham comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I'm down with some of this. No victim = no crime, addicts need treatment not punishment, bombing abroad is stupid, that's all great stuff. I take issue with the whole no one should be taxed and we should all rely on ourselves and the kindness of each other. A world without taxation and social ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 23, 2019:

@RobertMartin Same with sales tax. Fewer people working means fewer people have money to spend, fewer sales, less tax revenue coming in.

Do you approve capital punishment?

lerlo comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Yes it should exist because otherwise inmates can kill guards and other inmates with impunity if they're already doing a life sentence.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 23, 2019:

@lerlo Conducting justice with the motivating factor of the satisfaction of the Vitim's family is not justice, it's vengeance. Justice is blind. We should convict guilty people and we should separate them from society and put them in solitary permanently if necessary but killing them after having proven guilt in an imperfect system is immoral because it will mean that some innocents will die unfairly.

A little something from the Libertarian party

MarkiusMahamius comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Looking around for examples of people actually helping eachother in any meanjngful way, beyond family/inheritance

RoboGraham replies on Dec 23, 2019:

A charity once flew me on a private plane to Boston when I was broke and in need of major surgery.

Do you approve capital punishment?

lerlo comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Yes it should exist because otherwise inmates can kill guards and other inmates with impunity if they're already doing a life sentence.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 23, 2019:

@lerlo Just because it happened in prison doesn't definitely mean he is 100% guilty. Do you think no one has ever been framed in prison?

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 23, 2019:

@JohnnyQB Killing is wrong, that's why there are laws against murder. The exceptions are self defense and war. Executing a dangerous person is not self defense because there are other ways of preventing that dangerous person from causing more harm. Every time a killer gets executed, they say, now the family has gotten justice and can have closure. That's not just preventing the bad guy from doing more harm, that's vengeance.

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 23, 2019:

@JohnnyQB Well you are claiming to be a detective and attempting to analyze my attitudes and agenda, are you not?

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@JohnnyQB Advocating for the death penalty does justify the killing of innocents. I'm not being sneaky, I'm flat out telling you. Innocent people do get executed and yet you are still supporting it. To be in support of capital punishment is to proclaim to the world that you are willing to perpetuate a practice which you know full well causes the deaths of innocent people.

Do you approve capital punishment?

Paracosm comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I support capital punishment in some circumstances. There are those that cannot be rehabilitated and their crimes warrant execution. That said, the justice system is extremely flawed and unreliable, false memories/ witness testimony is a huge problem, as is false confessions.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@Paracosm There are other ways to stop those people from continuing to hurt others. Killing immoral, why is it okay if the state does it?

Do you approve capital punishment?

lerlo comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Yes it should exist because otherwise inmates can kill guards and other inmates with impunity if they're already doing a life sentence.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@lerlo No, I have acknowledged that it is possible to get out of solitary. Will you acknowledged that innocent people are sometimes executed?

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@JohnnyQB No, you didn't prove that a case can be proved 100%. Just as I cannot prove 100% that you don't have a dragon in your pocket, no one can prove 100% that a person is guilty. Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, sure, but 100% is unobtainable.

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@JohnnyQB Your expertise as a detective mind analyzer. I was hoping you could illuminate something about my personality that I was unaware of. I was hoping you could explain my agenda to me. If you understand that the system is flawed, which you do, then you must know that sometimes innocent people die. That's not sneaky, that's the way it is. I don't believe that you are advocating the killing of innocent people but you are willing to accept that some will die so that we can punish those who are guilty. I find that to be immoral. Capital punishment is hypocritical. Killing is wrong so your response to killing is to kill the killer. Execution is to punish the perpetrator with the same crime that he committed. Two wrongs don't make a right. An eye for an eye is barbaric.

A little something from the Libertarian party

RoboGraham comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I'm down with some of this. No victim = no crime, addicts need treatment not punishment, bombing abroad is stupid, that's all great stuff. I take issue with the whole no one should be taxed and we should all rely on ourselves and the kindness of each other. A world without taxation and social ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@Bushshaker Well I can certainly agree with you there, a third party is of massive importance. I assumed, keep what you earn, means the government does not tax you. So what's the libertarian stance on tax?

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@JohnnyQB Please tell me, in your expert opinion, what are my attitudes and agenda? I'd love to hear it from someone with your level of expertise.

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@JohnnyQB The difference between innocent convictions and innocent executions is that execution is final. If some new information comes to light, it's too late. If that happens to someone serving a prison sentence, they can be let out. How was I sneaky or dishonest? What I have been arguing all along is that the system is imperfect. If it is imperfect, it rationally follows that mistakes are made and when it's a matter of whether or not to execute someone based on a imperfect system, mistakes mean innocent people get killed.

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@JohnnyQB Well I'm glad that there are people like you pursuing these deranged evildoers and bringing them to justice. That's got to be an emotionally draining job and I know I couldn't do it. I wish you success and I hope you catch them all.

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@JohnnyQB Sure yeah, agree to disagree. I don't feel insulted or offended. We had a discussion, we called each other on our BS. That's what this site is for.

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@JohnnyQB I didn't say that you said the system is perfect. The point I'm making is that, as a person working inside of the justice system, you would know better than most that it isn't perfect and if it isn't perfect, how can you justify killing people?

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@JohnnyQB I would be very skeptical of this dragon. I would guess that maybe you have a plastic dragon in your pocket. I cannot prove that you don't have a dragon, I cannot prove that there definitely is a conspiracy involving crooked cops, I also cannot prove for sure that this killer really did it. However, with that much evidence piled up against him, I would be willing to give a guilty verdict if I were a juror in that case. I would not be willing to sentence him to death though because I don't believe that capital punishment is rational or moral.

Awoken this morning by an active shooter alert.

moosepucky comments on Nov 14, 2019:

Anything that you can suggest that is not already a current law that would have prevented this? I have advocated for full searches of all students as they enter schools. No one wants this but without it, the student sitting next to your child could be the next internet sensation mass murderer and...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@moosepucky For sure. Ultimately, it's the fault of adults for allowing children access to fire arms. If all gun owners were responsible, this wouldn't be happening.

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@JohnnyQB I don't trust you. You made a random accusation about me hating society without knowing anything about me. You are making assumptions about my opinions toward police officers based on nothing. I believe that you are either pretending to be what you say you are, or not very good at it.

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@JohnnyQB If that's true, you should know better than most that the system is not perfect, mistakes can be made.

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@JohnnyQB I don't think that all cops are corrupt, far from it. I do know that some of them are because they are human beings and humans are flawed.

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@JohnnyQB Many agencies and people working around the clock doesn't mean that those people are incapable of making mistakes or worse. Not sure where you got the idea that I made up a hatred for society or what that even has to do with this discussion. It sounds to me like you have developed your opinions on this topic from watching fictional detective dramas.

Do you approve capital punishment?

lerlo comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Yes it should exist because otherwise inmates can kill guards and other inmates with impunity if they're already doing a life sentence.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@lerlo It takes years to execute a person. That inmate will have opportunity to kill again. Except no, because he will be placed in solitary confinement where he will not be a danger to others.

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@benhmiller The human memory is faulty, witnesses can lie and be intimidated or bribed. Confessions can be coerced, videos can be edited, judges and prosecutors can be corrupt, DNA can be planted by crooked cops.

Do you approve capital punishment?

lerlo comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Yes it should exist because otherwise inmates can kill guards and other inmates with impunity if they're already doing a life sentence.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@lerlo The death penalty is not an effective deterrent. Punishment is counterproductive to rehabilitation. I would wager that there have been fewer segregation escapes than innocent people executed.

Do you approve capital punishment?

bobwjr comments on Dec 22, 2019:

Not against but it must be sure that they are guilty

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

@bobwjr I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying.

Do you approve capital punishment?

JohnnyQB comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I think the death penalty and how it is put into place should be reformed. But I personally think some people need to be be put to death, serial killers for one. There are those out there that chop peoples limbs off and drink the blood, have sex with the corpse, Others that keep children in ...

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

There is no 100% certainty.

Do you approve capital punishment?

Paracosm comments on Dec 22, 2019:

I support capital punishment in some circumstances. There are those that cannot be rehabilitated and their crimes warrant execution. That said, the justice system is extremely flawed and unreliable, false memories/ witness testimony is a huge problem, as is false confessions.

RoboGraham replies on Dec 22, 2019:

If you understand the flaws of the justice system, how can you still support it?