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@Trajan61 Were you by chance aware of this- [gungiveaway.nra.org]
MikeFlora comments on Aug 15, 2018:
So, which one are you going for?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 15, 2018:
Zeroing in on number three. I like em' all of course.
Heh. LOL
LEPeff comments on Aug 14, 2018:
I hate the cowboys!
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 14, 2018:
@SkotlandSkye I'm fine with the Steelers, I just don't want to hear about the Eagles anymore, all these months later the Philly news sources still talk about the last Super Bowl. I don't like Philly sports teams even though I'm from eastern PA.
I think roughly ninety percent of folks on this site suffer from TDS...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 12, 2018:
Some guy who goes by the name Bendog blocked me, guess he didn't like the last public post I did, too much truth for him to handle.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 14, 2018:
@bigpawbullets He probably checked out the member list for this group and proceeded to block those who are the most active. Not that I care he blocked me, I reciprocated. Folks like that are not logical or reasonable.
Trump is destroying the country and yet he has these people cheering him on.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 5, 2018:
My life has gotten better since Trump took office. I no longer have that damn unconstitutional healthcare mandate to worry about anymore. The economy is gradually getting better. The interest rates have gone up a bit and will do some more by year end which means I'm making more money on my ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 14, 2018:
@Marine Very simple, because the far right is as bad as the far left, the two party monopoly has got to go as they both violate the US Constitution. The ACA healthcare mandate pushed forward by Obama was unconstitutional, no one should be forced to pay for a service they may not have an interest in. You don't seem to hear about this much, but these days alot of Democrats are also highly religious and think the national day of prayer is a wonderful thing. Anyone who attempts to inject theocracy in our politics is dead wrong. What you described above is one of the reasons why I don't respect the GOP and will not register to vote with them. If memory serves correct, I had listed a few things the Democrats do/favor that is unconstitutional as well. I can't stress this enough, both major political parties do their fair share of wrongdoing.
@Mikeflora mentioned recently that people like @spiketalon, @omen6actual & myself should just "admit...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 14, 2018:
@bigpawbullets For not being too active on there yet, you are picking up subscribers on the "other" site. Just wanted to let you know.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 14, 2018:
@bigpawbullets I didn't see who.
I think roughly ninety percent of folks on this site suffer from TDS...
Leutrelle comments on Aug 14, 2018:
You made me smile:)
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 14, 2018:
All good.
[thefederalist.com] A classic example of hypocrisy from the gun control fanatics...
Leutrelle comments on Aug 14, 2018:
GO Democrat Go;)
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 14, 2018:
Hey Leutrelle, glad to see you on. Hope all has been good for you.
Cool- [modernfirearms.net]
MikeFlora comments on Aug 13, 2018:
Barrel that short, you wouldn't hit a bull in the ass after 75 ft.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 13, 2018:
Shotguns aren't meant to be very long range weapons, unless you use shotgun slugs instead of buckshot...
Just to keep everyone alert:
MikeFlora comments on Aug 12, 2018:
Why not make the world safer so we don't have to carry a gun?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 13, 2018:
@MikeFlora The anticipation...
Just to keep everyone alert:
MikeFlora comments on Aug 12, 2018:
Why not make the world safer so we don't have to carry a gun?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 12, 2018:
@bigpawbullets Have you been listening to Todd Rundgren's song Utopia recently, Mike?
How do the governments of the world address the fact that there are to many people on this planet?
Marine comments on Aug 12, 2018:
As long as the majority of people believe in religion I believe that the human race will face extinction by shear numbers.There is only so much water,food and land available and these are already under stress by the population of the world. Governments will by necessity need to do something to ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 12, 2018:
Whoa there Marine, government is not the answer to our problems where those issues are concerned. Your suggestion above is truly Orwellian in nature, and has no place in what's supposed to be a free country. Besides, when government oversteps its boundaries, there will be citizens to keep a close check on things...
@Admin -- Suggestion! Allow Level 8 and above to create 2 more groups if they have already maxed ...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 11, 2018:
That's a good idea, and I wasn't even aware that there was a restriction on the number of groups someone could start. I had started three groups already one of which I turned the host role over, so would that still count as three?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 12, 2018:
@SkotlandSkye Thank you, think I found what you were referring to, somehow I missed that setting.
To all the gun control fanatics on this site who refer to me as an ammosexual, you forgot to mention...
azzow2 comments on Aug 12, 2018:
I have been looking at the gun catalog and thinking of a Walther 9mm. Welcoming some opinions.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 12, 2018:
Fine choice there.
@Admin -- Suggestion! Allow Level 8 and above to create 2 more groups if they have already maxed ...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 11, 2018:
That's a good idea, and I wasn't even aware that there was a restriction on the number of groups someone could start. I had started three groups already one of which I turned the host role over, so would that still count as three?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 12, 2018:
@SkotlandSkye Another good option would be able to mute group notifications, as I heard some mention they are hesitant on joining groups (or joining as many groups in some cases) because of all the notifications they would receive day to day. Unless that is such an option was already implemented and I'm just not aware of it...
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 11, 2018:
If gun control was a joke, the rest of the world wouldn't have it. A few billion people are wrong, and some few million of people are right. Just like mainstream media is making up stories about Trump. Damn, I will be glad when we get that sorry son of a bitch out of the Whitehouse.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 12, 2018:
@MikeFlora I'm all for having a decent discussion on the gun debate and for some to ask questions, but being that I had started a new gun rights group on another site my time here will be limited a bit more and I don't have the time for trolls. I'm getting tired myself of the political arguing, let's focus more on the gun debate.
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
Green_Chile_Type comments on Aug 6, 2018:
Your observation is specious. Illinois is surrounded by states with virtually no restrictions on gun sales or ownership. Any fool in Chicago can drive an hour into Indiana or Wisconsin and buy whatever gun that fool wants. Curbing gun violence using safety programming and registration is like a ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 12, 2018:
@MikeFlora No, because people would just make their own weapons, and I had known guys who had been in prison who could make a weapon out of almost any common item around the house. Please don't tag anymore on this thread, as I had banned this guy as well for trolling. I'm all for an honest discussion and for some to ask questions, but some folks take things too far though.
Networking
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 12, 2018:
Offer duly noted. When it comes to networking/social media, I have a suggestion for a site that you may be interested in, just let me know and I'll message you. Being I have quite a few lib progressive adversaries on this site, I'd rather not mention said site on the public threads.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 12, 2018:
@empirical Okay I'll message that to you. Thought it best to ask first.
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 11, 2018:
If gun control was a joke, the rest of the world wouldn't have it. A few billion people are wrong, and some few million of people are right. Just like mainstream media is making up stories about Trump. Damn, I will be glad when we get that sorry son of a bitch out of the Whitehouse.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 12, 2018:
@MikeFlora Not saying he is totally innocent, but neither is CNN. Did it ever occur to you that perhaps up until his presidency no one dared to question the likes of CNN, but instead just accepted everything they said hook line and sinker? Talk about stupid? Just because someone has been around for nearly forty years doesn't mean they are absolutely trustworthy. I don't know how many times I have to say this, I don't believe every word that comes out of his mouth, I care more about job performance, and alot of those documented lies you were referring to are lies unto themselves that cannot be proven. CNN claimed that the WalkAway movement was mostly Russian bots, that is an obvious fabrication that cannot be simply ignored, they lied and that begs the question what else are they lying about? I'm an independent freethinker Mike, and frankly I don't believe much of what either side says as people have their own agendas and it's a known fact people are capable of telling great lies. Damn it Mike, stop believing everything you hear, question more things. All politicians lie, and I'm fed up with the two-party monopoly. Anyone who believes the likes of CNN and company would never lie are truly naive, and the mere fact that their journalists often give personal opinions on matters is a big red flag something is not right. Journalism is about supplying the facts, not your personal opinions. I know I sound mad here Mike, but I'm only trying to help, people need to wake up before it's too late.
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 11, 2018:
If gun control was a joke, the rest of the world wouldn't have it. A few billion people are wrong, and some few million of people are right. Just like mainstream media is making up stories about Trump. Damn, I will be glad when we get that sorry son of a bitch out of the Whitehouse.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 11, 2018:
@MikeFlora Please see my above comment about that guy you asked about.
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 11, 2018:
If gun control was a joke, the rest of the world wouldn't have it. A few billion people are wrong, and some few million of people are right. Just like mainstream media is making up stories about Trump. Damn, I will be glad when we get that sorry son of a bitch out of the Whitehouse.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 11, 2018:
Billy11 also made revolting comments, some directed at me, wishing death on my family members. I don't come on social media to deal with that shit...
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 11, 2018:
If gun control was a joke, the rest of the world wouldn't have it. A few billion people are wrong, and some few million of people are right. Just like mainstream media is making up stories about Trump. Damn, I will be glad when we get that sorry son of a bitch out of the Whitehouse.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 11, 2018:
No Mike, I already banned Billy11 from this group because he had to go bashing some of us without even hearing our side of the story. He wasn't like you, and he's not even American. I care about the gun control issue in my own country. On another note, if Kojaksmom is not interested, would that Terricity lady be? She seemed to want to debate alot in the past...
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 11, 2018:
If gun control was a joke, the rest of the world wouldn't have it. A few billion people are wrong, and some few million of people are right. Just like mainstream media is making up stories about Trump. Damn, I will be glad when we get that sorry son of a bitch out of the Whitehouse.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 11, 2018:
Don't count the chickens before they've hatched, there still are alot of Americans who approve of his job performance and will be voting for him again. The mainstream medias have and continue to lie on certain topics, their accusation that the WalkAway movement is Russian bots is a baseless claim, obviously the people from that movement are American and not Russian, but that's a whole other story. Just because a couple billion people (no way to determine the exact number by the way) support gun control measures in their country as opposed to the millions you claim (I included) who are against it, does not make masses of people correct. Look at religion, look at all the followers of christianity and islam, a couple billion followers between the two, and yet guys like you and I can plainly see how wrong folks like that are in their "faith", the masses can be incorrect at times. Gun control measures by and large are a joke as criminals will never obey the laws, the only ones affected are law abiding gun owners. Society as a whole needs to wake up and realize that much.
Just to let everyone know, I'm at @skotlandskye 's bed and breakfast last night and tonight and it ...
SkotlandSkye comments on Aug 6, 2018:
Thanks! It's nice having you as a guest!
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 11, 2018:
@SkotlandSkye Thank you for bringing that up about the groups on here, I wasn't aware of that. Speaking of groups, I had started a pro gun rights group on the other site and you are more than welcome to join if you like. It's called March For Our Rights.
I have just had a frustrating ten minutes trying get the Android app upload a 1700 character ...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 11, 2018:
Oh boy, sounds like it's glitching there. I use the Android app as well.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 11, 2018:
@FrayedBear Could be...
@Mikeflora mentioned recently that people like @spiketalon, @omen6actual & myself should just "admit...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora I saw the last post you did in your (well used to be yours anyway) group. Rather odd a group with 200+ members hadn't posted anything for days...maybe they are giving up? I could...I could do a post in your group if you wanted me to, if you wanted some action in your group. I somehow get...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 11, 2018:
@MikeFlora Yeah, if you're leaning in that direction you might want to avoid social media as much as possible, too easy to say the wrong thing by accident. Most politicians these days really shouldn't be on social media much, don't think it helps their cause alot, although these days it's hard to avoid totally, so I can understand that much. Nothing wrong with that, I thought about getting into politics myself, but find that my involvement online in advocacy groups has made more of an impact. I just started another gun rights advocacy group on Aug 8 (my birthday no less) on another site I've been active on, making that the fourth one I've created on four different sites. When I was no longer active on certain sites, I handed groups over to others I trusted, so I know what it's like to pass the group host role onto someone else. I'm happy though, I currently have that new group and this one here, and membership is picking up alot faster than on this site. I don't bother with YouTube much anymore, their platform is a little too restrictive, but good luck on that if that be the path you choose.
@Mikeflora mentioned recently that people like @spiketalon, @omen6actual & myself should just "admit...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora I saw the last post you did in your (well used to be yours anyway) group. Rather odd a group with 200+ members hadn't posted anything for days...maybe they are giving up? I could...I could do a post in your group if you wanted me to, if you wanted some action in your group. I somehow get...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora Are you referring to getting into politics yourself, or the YouTube channel?
Curiosity abounds...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 10, 2018:
I don't think it works that way. I don't think you can use recycled plastic in a 3d printer, but I get the point, and I don't care, they don't last very long.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 10, 2018:
It was just a joke, don't think so either. If one breaks down, another could be made in its place. I think as technology continues to advance, 3d printed firearms will be made stronger to last longer. Time will only tell though...
@Mikeflora mentioned recently that people like @spiketalon, @omen6actual & myself should just "admit...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora I saw the last post you did in your (well used to be yours anyway) group. Rather odd a group with 200+ members hadn't posted anything for days...maybe they are giving up? I could...I could do a post in your group if you wanted me to, if you wanted some action in your group. I somehow get...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora I know, not anymore.
Had to kill a skunk this morning I opted for the bow 65lb compound used razor tri-tip arrows have ...
bigpawbullets comments on Aug 10, 2018:
You're welcome at our survivalist compound when the Zombie Apocalypse happens. Or any other time. Bring the family.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 10, 2018:
You must be referring to that there liberal progressive apocalypse...
@Mikeflora mentioned recently that people like @spiketalon, @omen6actual & myself should just "admit...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 10, 2018:
@MikeFlora I saw the last post you did in your (well used to be yours anyway) group. Rather odd a group with 200+ members hadn't posted anything for days...maybe they are giving up? I could...I could do a post in your group if you wanted me to, if you wanted some action in your group. I somehow get...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 10, 2018:
I am just kidding by the way.
@Admin.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 10, 2018:
On the contrary, I agree with how that presently is because if someone messaged me a comment that was personal in nature/vulgar etc I should have a say in deleting that. When it comes to private messaging, if you send a comment to me it is no longer just yours but also who received it. Vice versa of...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 10, 2018:
@FrayedBear Ah, I see.
@Admin.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 10, 2018:
On the contrary, I agree with how that presently is because if someone messaged me a comment that was personal in nature/vulgar etc I should have a say in deleting that. When it comes to private messaging, if you send a comment to me it is no longer just yours but also who received it. Vice versa of...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 10, 2018:
@FrayedBear Still, when you share comments like that it is similar to public posts...
@Admin.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 10, 2018:
On the contrary, I agree with how that presently is because if someone messaged me a comment that was personal in nature/vulgar etc I should have a say in deleting that. When it comes to private messaging, if you send a comment to me it is no longer just yours but also who received it. Vice versa of...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 10, 2018:
@FrayedBear You can't never leave that much up to the other person as they may or may not give an explanation. What you described in your post can be a tricky situation, I'll give ya that much...
Rules.
Iam4MY comments on Jul 31, 2018:
I kind of covered this on a different post here. Personally I don't kiss and tell so I would never post any details about a good date aside from "it was good". A bad date I'll rail about forever. Lol. As far as relationship status, as soon as you aren't looking for someone anymore, this group is no ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 9, 2018:
@bingst I had brought that to Admin's attention a few weeks back. Some guy in one of the groups I host did a few posts that were truly hateful in nature and I was not able to censor his posts, so I informed SiteSupport and she took said posts down.
Group avatar Any suggestions?
bingst comments on Aug 7, 2018:
I made one, for now.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 9, 2018:
@bingst Tried to find one with similar wording to your group.
Group avatar Any suggestions?
bingst comments on Aug 7, 2018:
I made one, for now.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 9, 2018:
Just thought I'd run that one by you, I'll stay in the group long enough in case you want to reply.
Group avatar Any suggestions?
bingst comments on Aug 7, 2018:
I made one, for now.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 9, 2018:
How about this one-
Police should never be the only ones to have and use guns...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 8, 2018:
There is no easy answer here, if there was this group wouldn't be needed. In this wonderful age of information you can find credible looking facts to cover just about anything. I'm not saying one side is right or wrong, I'm saying there is more than one answer. No answer is going to work for ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 9, 2018:
@MikeFlora A big difference there regarding your example, because driving is a privilege and not a Constitutional right (can't say I agree with the government on that one). The other is constitutionally protected and not only that but there is also this thing called due process which is also a fundamental right, and someone doesn't lose their right(s) because of another's fears/suspicions. No one should have to prove anything to you or anyone else, if you are the one making the claim then you must prove your case with hard evidence or else no one has a reasonable obligation to take you seriously. The same is applied to religious claims there.
Damn that's creepy...
DarrelScott comments on Aug 9, 2018:
What a sight to wake up to
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 9, 2018:
Scary, I know...
Police should never be the only ones to have and use guns...
bigpawbullets comments on Aug 8, 2018:
@Mikeflora & @spiketalon I've guns and fire extinguishers located strategically in my house, garages, and vehicles. I've never had to use either. So why would I eliminate one or both? Mike, your logic is flawed.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 9, 2018:
@bigpawbullets Thank you for the token wire by the way, tokens can be used for boosting your content so as to get more views or tipping other member channels like you did for me. You'll get used to how that works. Tagged you in that group by the way.
Police should never be the only ones to have and use guns...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 8, 2018:
There is no easy answer here, if there was this group wouldn't be needed. In this wonderful age of information you can find credible looking facts to cover just about anything. I'm not saying one side is right or wrong, I'm saying there is more than one answer. No answer is going to work for ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 9, 2018:
@MikeFlora Thank you, it was sacrifice freedom and not privacy, that quote just wasn't coming to me. So in other words you are paranoid of others that of which you do not know? That baffles me somewhat, I'm fairly positive you were the one who had asked me once about living in a society where I feel I have to carry in order to feel safe and how it shouldn't have to be that way. While I understand where you're coming from on that, I personally refuse to go through life being paranoid like that, for the same reason I left religion because of fear tactics used. Who knows, a remedy for what you described above might come down the road, maybe even discovered within this group...
Police should never be the only ones to have and use guns...
bigpawbullets comments on Aug 8, 2018:
@Mikeflora & @spiketalon I've guns and fire extinguishers located strategically in my house, garages, and vehicles. I've never had to use either. So why would I eliminate one or both? Mike, your logic is flawed.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
@bigpawbullets If you can't find it, I could tag you in one of the group posts for my group on the other site, as I know you're still getting familiar with the site. I accomplished what I set out to do, start a pro gun rights group on my birthday, happy day!
Is anyone here a certified firearm trainer?
repubatheists comments on Aug 6, 2018:
I have a friend who is a range safety officer and he sent a link to NRA's general gun safety section online, which is really basic. More detailed courses require membership. Odd they can't at least provide more extensive safety training for free. I wonder if there is a group dedicated solely to gun ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
@repubatheists I agree on the responsibility part, and if I'm not mistaken there are other groups besides the NRA that offer safety courses. I started a pro gun rights group on the "other" site called March For Our Rights, and hopefully more members who are pro gun rights will join and be able to contribute information such as safety courses etc. @TheInterlooper @Lancer @Trajan61 I tagged you guys here so you know about the group I had started, and Bigpawbullets has joined that site as well. I know you're not on there Trajan, but the offer is on the table if you're interested. If you needed help/more details just let me know. Cmadler and SkotlandSkye are also on there, and I will let them know as well.
I am curious as to whom the group, Antifa, is comprised of?
TheInterlooper comments on Aug 8, 2018:
Communists.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
@TheInterlooper The key word there is think...
Police should never be the only ones to have and use guns...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 8, 2018:
There is no easy answer here, if there was this group wouldn't be needed. In this wonderful age of information you can find credible looking facts to cover just about anything. I'm not saying one side is right or wrong, I'm saying there is more than one answer. No answer is going to work for ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
@MikeFlora I disagree, guns are not unique, they are another inanimate object that requires a human being in order to function. Timothy McVeigh took out a whole building with a vehicle loaded with explosives if I'm not mistaken, that did more damage than any AR-15 could ever do. What do I have to do in order to calm your paranoia down Mike? Hold your hand while stating reassuring words in a calm tone? You're a grown man Mike, if the paranoia is that bad you may have to see a specialist over that, as I and the others here can only help so much while on here. The part with the needs of the many sounds like communism to me, the founder's put value on individual liberty, and I believe it was Ben Franklin who stated those who are willing to trade privacy for some security deserve neither, something to that extent anyway. If proving responsibility is your only concern, then perhaps that would be a topic for future discussion.
Do you think Hillary Clinton will be held accountable for her emails scandal?
Dan1947 comments on Aug 8, 2018:
I would like to see the results of that investigation.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
@Dan1947 Nah, you won't find that much on this site, too many on here who are politically correct...
I am curious as to whom the group, Antifa, is comprised of?
TheInterlooper comments on Aug 8, 2018:
Communists.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
Exactly. Someone else said anarchists, but most of them support communism.
Police should never be the only ones to have and use guns...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 8, 2018:
Can't agree
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
@MikeFlora I get you on that Mike, sounds like we have a cop problem there and need to work on that much. Speaking of which, police brutality is a topic I would tend to agree with you on. I'm getting multiple albeit random notifications, you guys are commenting everywhere, might be time soon to make use of this group's chatroom...
Police should never be the only ones to have and use guns...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 8, 2018:
There is no easy answer here, if there was this group wouldn't be needed. In this wonderful age of information you can find credible looking facts to cover just about anything. I'm not saying one side is right or wrong, I'm saying there is more than one answer. No answer is going to work for ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
I'm quite tolerant to those who do not desire to own firearms, and if you don't like/want to own certain types of guns I can respect that Mike. I only have a problem when some question or criticize my own personal decisions and especially when I am not bothering anyone else. In our country everyone is innocent until proven guilty and there should be no exception when it comes to due process. I understand there are some places that will be gun free zones, and I avoid them whenever I can. That's what we need to discuss maybe, how to make gun free zones etc safer. In life, sometimes there are no easy answers and compromising may be difficult to do. Through enough discussion we all may arrive to a point that we could all agree on...
I am curious about whether this site, since it is about agnosticism, has a predominantly liberal, ...
SkotlandSkye comments on Aug 8, 2018:
I'm actually surprised by the number of people here who are for bigger and more invasive government. It's like they are replacing the Sky Daddy for Government Sugar Daddy/Pimp who will take the money they earn and give them a small allowance and spend the rest of the money on making the Pimp ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
@SkotlandSkye Your first comment described my position, I'm open minded socially speaking but conservative when it comes to interpreting the Constitution/finances/smaller gov etc. Live and let live when it comes to consenting adults I say.
That irreverent imp is up to it again; check out Sacha Baron Cohen's hilarious exchange with ...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 8, 2018:
You mean the irreverent imbecile? Read this one- http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/18/sacha-baron-cohen-tried-trick-gun-store-owner-wasnt/ Those who deceive more often than not eventually meet their match. It's amazing how there is so much ado over the president's lies, and yet so many of my fellow ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
@Condor5 That works too.
[thefederalist.
mosuper comments on Aug 8, 2018:
And then there is his ex-wife, trying to leverage all this in her custody fight. https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-wife-infowars-host-alex-185029500.html
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
I hope Kelly wins.
[thefederalist.
Anonbene comments on Aug 8, 2018:
They aren't silencing anyone. We've all heard the bullshit before. They got to say it once and once was enough. It was proven to be lies and it was rejected. If anyone wants to say batshit crazy lies they can do it among their family and friends or as we are seeing now they will get sued in public ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
The censoring is real, and I've long felt that if someone disagreed with Jones or anyone else they could just simply ignore them. I've experimented with a few other sites before settling on this one, and was censored often for my views, and it got so bad that I left those sites. There has been censorship on here too, just not as bad though.
Police should never be the only ones to have and use guns...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 8, 2018:
Can't agree
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
@MikeFlora Never said everyone needs to carry, if someone doesn't want to that's their choice, I resent others telling me what I can or should own though. That is a reasonable comparison, and regarding the story you referred to I'd still rather be armed than not. You conveniently leave out all the stories of armed citizens who were able to defend themselves against attack.
Police should never be the only ones to have and use guns...
MikeFlora comments on Aug 8, 2018:
Can't agree
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
@Jthurston2 He'll only say such a situation wouldn't apply to him based on where he lives, the only trouble with that is not all of us are in the same cozy position he's in, some of us live near crime riddled areas. It's worth noting this is the same guy who started a group on here to speak up against police brutality, so he must be aware we do indeed have a problem where that's concerned, and yet for the most part he believes mostly those in LE should own and use firearms because didn't you know that the average private citizen doesn't have training in handling firearms, which of course couldn't be further from the truth...
It seems me that true supporters of the right bear arms are interested in promoting a system of ...
Omen6Actual comments on Aug 4, 2018:
Nope. Second Amendment. It's not being treated as a right but a privelege with licenses and shit.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 8, 2018:
@educatedredneck Please ask him somewhere else, I banned him from this group, I don't mind if questions are asked but he went too far.
When I was much younger I had a great look to me.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 7, 2018:
The background kinda looks like at the Allentown Fair back in the 1980's...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 7, 2018:
@azzow2 Oh wow, I was way off there... What can I say, I just got the fair on my mind...
Trump called Don Lemmon the dumbest man on TV.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 4, 2018:
Obama was a scuzbag who was guilty of plenty wrongdoing, and yet people supported (some still do) him.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 7, 2018:
@MikeFlora That's called free speech Mike, you can always ignore it. Is some pizza chain owner using the n word any more classy? And you don't have a problem with someone saying a word, in which I agree with you on that. With so many real issues in the world, we need to focus our efforts where they're really needed, who gives a damn when someone else rambles on? If liberal democrats focused as much energy in helping those in need as much as they do in condemning Trump's every move, this country would be a much more pleasant place. I'm fed up with all the bickering. Politics really suck, brings out the worst in people...
Xkcd: Free Speech
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 7, 2018:
Part of the comic got cut off on the left side, at least that's how it showed up on my end anyway.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 7, 2018:
@bingst Could be my browser maybe...
It seems me that true supporters of the right bear arms are interested in promoting a system of ...
Omen6Actual comments on Aug 4, 2018:
Nope. Second Amendment. It's not being treated as a right but a privelege with licenses and shit.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 7, 2018:
@Green_Chile_Type @billy11 I try to be reasonable with everyone, but some take things too far. This group is for those who support gun rights (US Constitution), not to debate or troll or heckle my fellow group members. Both of you just got yourselves banned from this group, adios...
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
billy11 comments on Aug 6, 2018:
Of course there would have been a different outcome, more people would have been killed.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 7, 2018:
@billy11 Don't care about being a hero, I arm myself because I care about staying alive, making yourself an unarmed victim could only get you killed.
Good late morning fellow hooligans!
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 6, 2018:
@MikeFlora Is that MikeXL account yours as well, Mike? The age and location match yours, which is why I ask. I asked Admin about you and it looked like you had deleted your account and left, and someone else had taken over host role for the gun control group.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 7, 2018:
@MikeFlora Ah, I see...
My blood pressure has been pretty high lately.
Betty comments on Aug 6, 2018:
It has been my experience that the older generation were more ingrained in religion than we are today. Religion in the early part of the last century had a tighter grip on the citizens and growing up within that environment would have been comforting to the majority. Trying to change the mind of ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 7, 2018:
@Mike1947 I've had it taken but are on no medications. Some readings were high, so I'm trying not to get stressed out.
Good late morning fellow hooligans!
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 6, 2018:
@MikeFlora Is that MikeXL account yours as well, Mike? The age and location match yours, which is why I ask. I asked Admin about you and it looked like you had deleted your account and left, and someone else had taken over host role for the gun control group.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 6, 2018:
@MikeFlora Aren't we all pretty much just in name here? As none of us for the most part could converse with each other in person. A name a bio and an avatar is pretty much it...
My blood pressure has been pretty high lately.
bingst comments on Aug 6, 2018:
I take it you can't just agree to disagree, because she won't leave it alone? That's tough. This is the kind of situation that would cause me to distance myself from someone, maybe even turn my back on completely.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 6, 2018:
Tricky situation indeed. I thought about breaking off all contact, but that's easier said than done as my father is long deceased and I have no siblings, so aside from me she doesn't really have anyone else close by who she could rely on for help and she dealt with some minor health-related issues recently. That's where this site comes in, which I find has been a big help in getting me by the rough days, knowing that I'm not alone and there are plenty of others out there who could relate.
My blood pressure has been pretty high lately.
Iamnissa comments on Aug 6, 2018:
My goodness, I can relate to this post! I am the drop of reason in my family and it's a lonely place to be at times.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 6, 2018:
Very lonely at times. Still, I'd rather be a bit lonely than a religious fanatic.
My blood pressure has been pretty high lately.
LionMousePudding comments on Aug 6, 2018:
Have you heard of the technique called Broken Record? You just do not engage, even though she does. You do not let her control whether you speak about it. Like this. Mom: When are you going to get baptized? You: You and I do not and never will agree on religion. Talking about it has really ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 6, 2018:
@LionMousePudding Can't say it's flat out destroying our relationship, just straining things a bit perhaps. I'm to a point where I'm mostly going to ignore her from now on if and when the topic comes up.
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
billy11 comments on Aug 6, 2018:
Of course there would have been a different outcome, more people would have been killed.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 6, 2018:
@billy11 So in other words, you advocate for being/becoming a victim? If someone breaks into my residence and threatens me, I'll be ready, no worries there. Removing guns from the scene would not solve the problem, because bad guys/criminals will have them still as they don't obey the laws. Not every legal gun owner is a novice as you presumed above, quite a few of us have training/background in proper firearm handling. Hell, once upon a time I got an offer to join the Allentown Police Department because they were impressed with my resume. There have already been documented cases of good guys with guns stopping criminals out in public, so the good there outweighs the negative. I dare some gun wielding thug to violate me in my own home...
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
Green_Chile_Type comments on Aug 6, 2018:
Your observation is specious. Illinois is surrounded by states with virtually no restrictions on gun sales or ownership. Any fool in Chicago can drive an hour into Indiana or Wisconsin and buy whatever gun that fool wants. Curbing gun violence using safety programming and registration is like a ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 6, 2018:
@Green_Chile_Type You're attempting to compare two very different things there, and I'm not about to fall into that trap...
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
billy11 comments on Aug 6, 2018:
Of course there would have been a different outcome, more people would have been killed.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 6, 2018:
Yeah...more bad guys killed, right you are.
Just to let everyone know, I'm at @skotlandskye 's bed and breakfast last night and tonight and it ...
SkotlandSkye comments on Aug 6, 2018:
Thanks! It's nice having you as a guest!
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 6, 2018:
Just wanted to let you know real quick looks like you're getting subscribers already on the "other" site and you haven't even posted yet, so I'd say that's a good sign.
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
Green_Chile_Type comments on Aug 6, 2018:
Your observation is specious. Illinois is surrounded by states with virtually no restrictions on gun sales or ownership. Any fool in Chicago can drive an hour into Indiana or Wisconsin and buy whatever gun that fool wants. Curbing gun violence using safety programming and registration is like a ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 6, 2018:
I have to disagree, any form of gun control measure would eventually be doomed to fail as criminals do not regard the laws. Signs or legislation do not stop people from committing crimes. The city of Chicago has some of the toughest gun control measures in place, and yet that city is one of the most violent. The core of the problem is people, we have a people problem in this country and not a gun one.
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
DarrelScott comments on Aug 6, 2018:
Chicago is proof gun laws don't make things safer. They make things worse.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 6, 2018:
Indeed so.
For having some of the strictest gun control measures in the country, Chicago sure is riddled with ...
Omen6Actual comments on Aug 6, 2018:
I think they should move out of the country for being anti-American.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 6, 2018:
Move to Canada like they promised... I wouldn't miss them.
My blood pressure has been pretty high lately.
Betty comments on Aug 6, 2018:
It has been my experience that the older generation were more ingrained in religion than we are today. Religion in the early part of the last century had a tighter grip on the citizens and growing up within that environment would have been comforting to the majority. Trying to change the mind of ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 6, 2018:
I have tried to do just that, but unfortunately my mother is about the worse type of believer out there, she will not even consider listening to any views that could contradict hers. In that sense, I was not very lucky to be born to someone who is that rigid in their beliefs. I often change the subject when religion gets mentioned. Thank you for the feedback, it is much appreciated.
Unfortunately, all true:
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 6, 2018:
@bigpawbullets Just wanted to let you know that it appears Mike deleted his account. That much must be true as some other guy now hosts the gun control group. The guy who is host now is rather radical so I doubt you'll get anywhere talking with him. Just wanted to let you know.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 6, 2018:
@bigpawbullets At one point being Mike had invited me to join his group, I thought about joining but held off due to being involved with enough groups at the moment. Now I'm not joining that group for sure, and am still considering starting another group myself.
Is anyone here a certified firearm trainer?
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 3, 2018:
I'm not unfortunately, and the only guy I knew of on here who was certified got booted from the site a month ago.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 5, 2018:
@PinkyandtheBrain He kept posting on a certain topic and Admin had warned him on that, but he kept it up until he got himself banned.
Trump called Don Lemmon the dumbest man on TV.
bigpawbullets comments on Aug 5, 2018:
Oh no!!! @Mikeflora blocked me!!! I've hurt his sensitive feelings!! :-)
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 5, 2018:
Yeah, he disappeared from his own group, and that means either he paused his account or got booted from the site.
Trump called Don Lemmon the dumbest man on TV.
bigpawbullets comments on Aug 5, 2018:
Oh no!!! @Mikeflora blocked me!!! I've hurt his sensitive feelings!! :-)
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 5, 2018:
I don't think so. If he had us blocked this post of his would no longer be visible to us. Looks like he paused his account... or could have possibly gotten booted from the site. This post is a little over the edge, and he was warned in the past... @Trajan61
It doesn't matter where you stand on this or how practical or not 3D printed guns would be, the mere...
billy11 comments on Aug 2, 2018:
Yeah, make some more guns, you haven't got enough in America yet, and there are still some schools that haven't been shot up.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 5, 2018:
@billy11 Perhaps you deserve to be ridiculed... I know there are plenty of folks out there who would agree with you, but then again it's been said there is a sucker born every minute...
@Admin the alerts in the Android app have disappeared apart from the current 7.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 4, 2018:
I didn't experience that. Was there an update to the app recently? My apps don't auto update, I maually control updates and often make apk backups in case updates are bad. In fact, I don't use Google Play much anymore, I use Aptoide and a few other sources to download and update apps.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 5, 2018:
@FrayedBear Well, that would be quite a concern there...
Trump called Don Lemmon the dumbest man on TV.
bigpawbullets comments on Aug 5, 2018:
Hey! I thought you'd "departed the fix, outbound" to become a YouTube "Voice For the Opposition"!! What are you doing back here? Again!!!
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 5, 2018:
He must have been experiencing some Conservative Atheist group withdraw, as it has been about two or so days since he last joined here and drop out again...
It bothers me that most US citizens don't know "In God We Trust" wasn't official for the first 180 ...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 5, 2018:
E PLURIBUS UNUM!
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 5, 2018:
Excellent post by the way.
@Admin the alerts in the Android app have disappeared apart from the current 7.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 4, 2018:
I didn't experience that. Was there an update to the app recently? My apps don't auto update, I maually control updates and often make apk backups in case updates are bad. In fact, I don't use Google Play much anymore, I use Aptoide and a few other sources to download and update apps.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 5, 2018:
@FrayedBear I just don't see the sense in making things easier for them is all, I already know they have alot of my personal data on record. I've taken quite a few measures to make things a bit more difficult for those who are data snoops like Google, and there are apps that can help with that much...
Trump called Don Lemmon the dumbest man on TV.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 4, 2018:
Obama was a scuzbag who was guilty of plenty wrongdoing, and yet people supported (some still do) him.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 5, 2018:
@jorj The lib progressives...
Trump called Don Lemmon the dumbest man on TV.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 4, 2018:
Obama was a scuzbag who was guilty of plenty wrongdoing, and yet people supported (some still do) him.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 5, 2018:
@empirical Yeah, I wish he would control his temper a little more, no sense in giving the liberal progressives something extra to complain about...
Trump called Don Lemmon the dumbest man on TV.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 4, 2018:
Obama was a scuzbag who was guilty of plenty wrongdoing, and yet people supported (some still do) him.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 5, 2018:
@jorj I wouldn't at all be surprised if she attempts another run at the presidency...
@Admin the alerts in the Android app have disappeared apart from the current 7.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 4, 2018:
I didn't experience that. Was there an update to the app recently? My apps don't auto update, I maually control updates and often make apk backups in case updates are bad. In fact, I don't use Google Play much anymore, I use Aptoide and a few other sources to download and update apps.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 5, 2018:
@FrayedBear Google keeps track of every app you download from the PlayStore.
True words there...
TheInterlooper comments on Aug 4, 2018:
Too few of us see through the false dichotomy of the two-party system.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 4, 2018:
Oops, commented on the wrong thread...
True words there...
TheInterlooper comments on Aug 4, 2018:
Too few of us see through the false dichotomy of the two-party system.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 4, 2018:
Is it just me, or does it appear Mike is having Conservative Atheist group withdraw, as he had been away from said group for about two days now?
Trump called Don Lemmon the dumbest man on TV.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 4, 2018:
Obama was a scuzbag who was guilty of plenty wrongdoing, and yet people supported (some still do) him.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 4, 2018:
Also, after awhile I'm sure Trump gets fed up with all the insults that get hurled his way since day one in the WH. The man speaks his mind regardless if others like what he says or not, because that's how free speech works, and of course those who are overly sensitive lose their minds over such. The part I find ironic is those who were hoping for Hillary to win conveniently forgot the comment she once made in regards to nearly half of the US population...all Trump voters are a basket of deplorables. If you didn't think that was disgusting of a presidential candidate, then you're a hypocrite plain and simple, and I don't care if Trump is our current president, Hillary ran and yet so many people thought she would have been better which she isn't. I'm sure that wouldn't explain things enough for you though, and once again we go around in circles...
True words there...
TheInterlooper comments on Aug 4, 2018:
Too few of us see through the false dichotomy of the two-party system.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 4, 2018:
Right you are. If they were still alive, the Founders would be appalled at the seemingly neverending bickering between the Democrats and Republicans. I am registered with the same party General Washington was back in his day...Independent. A conservative independent at that.
Another interesting read... [thefederalist.com]
billy11 comments on Aug 3, 2018:
So the thing is called the liberator. Who is it going to liberate you from, the rabbits up in the top paddock, or the bull frogs down in the pond?
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 4, 2018:
From Australia, maybe?
Indeed so...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 4, 2018:
Quick note- I updated the chatrooms in all three groups I host on here, changed around the hours and expanded them, so now each group will have a daily chatroom available for 22 hours of the day. I heard you earn level points per hour for checking into a chatroom regardless if anyone else is there ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 4, 2018:
@Omen6Actual I enjoy showing them how ignorant they are.
The METOO Movement.
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 4, 2018:
I'm sorry to hear such, based on my previous interactions with you, you appear to be a kind hearted person and didn't mind conversing with me even though I'm a conservative introvert. I agree there are too many examples of what you described above. As odd as this may sound, I too went through a ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 4, 2018:
In short, she wanted to "have fun" with me while at work no less and when I told her no way the threats started to come my way...
What fictional character would you like to be real?
McVinegar comments on Aug 3, 2018:
Han Solo. Fuck shit up. :)
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 4, 2018:
Do that Kessel run...
It seems me that true supporters of the right bear arms are interested in promoting a system of ...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 4, 2018:
Yes, but I am strongly opposed to the "sensible" gun control measures promoted by the gun control groups. Too much government involvement/regulation doesn't solve all the problems, and most legislation promoted by the gun control politicians has failed miserably.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 4, 2018:
Beg your pardon, make that all the gun control measures have failed miserably.
I want to say something about the Newtown and other school shootings: I care more about kids (I ...
SkotlandSkye comments on Aug 1, 2018:
I haven't cried over any school shooting. I 100% blame the school shootings on bad parenting, lack of respect for firearms, and the "don't spank your kids" and "give everyone a participation ribbon" generation. Furthermore, it's been shown the the greatest percentage of "drugged" students -- ...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 4, 2018:
@GlyndonD While I agree with most of your points, can't say I go along with the sacrifice mentality. Our very culture has become toxic, and when you throw poor parenting a lack of education and medications into the equation, negative results are bound to occur. We have a people problem. While I may have shaken my head in dismay over the school shootings, I never wept over them. I'm glad to hear you defend the 2A, as that is a safeguard against potential tyranny. Diehard 2A defender here, and I started a pro gun rights group on here to counter the gun control one and are thinking about starting a group on another site I'm active on. Regarding the liberal/conservative politics, please keep in mind that not all of those who identify as a conservative are attached to a political party. I identify as conservative, but do not associate with any political party, at the present moment anyway. You and I have quite a bit in common Glyndon, as we both believe in individual liberty. @SkotlandSkye I agree with your points and couldn't have put it better. What you mentioned above more of our fellow Americans should take into deep consideration. At times on this site some of the posts and comments I come across make me want to give up on my fellow atheists and skeptics, so much for freethinkers, but it's good to know there are some who are aware of what's really going on behind the scenes. That "progressive" mentality hasn't taken over yet, and I hope it never does. More parents should opt to homeschool, and in the meantime the public school system needs a total overhaul. Or perhaps maybe we need to get rid of it altogether, why does the government have to be involved in education anyway? Then again, that might just be me as I'd like to see more entities like the public education system be privatized. Many factors to take into consideration when thinking about the problematic issues plaguing society, and you named most of them.
It seems me that true supporters of the right bear arms are interested in promoting a system of ...
TheInterlooper comments on Aug 4, 2018:
I don't believe I should have to register or get a license for a basic human right.
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 4, 2018:
I have a license to own guns....the 2nd Amendment is my license and the only one I need;)
You guys are welcome to do the same, present whatever pisses you off about us, being civil of ...
SpikeTalon comments on Aug 2, 2018:
Just curious, you left the CA group the other day only to rejoin earlier today and then leave again. I didn't see you post or comment anywhere, what was that all about? I'm not bothered by such, just curious is all. What did Kojaksmom say about joining this group? On a completely random note, did...
SpikeTalon replies on Aug 4, 2018:
@MikeFlora Geez, that bad huh? Who trolls your group? Are they conservative gun owners and do I know them? Hear back from Kojaksmom yet or Terri?

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