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History will record Donald Trump as being responsible for tens of thousands of additional deaths ...
Storm1752 comments on Jul 12, 2020:
I didn't vote for him. I take no personal responsibility.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 12, 2020:
@mischl THAT'S a meaningless statement.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 12, 2020:
I didn't vote for him. I take no personal responsibility.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 12, 2020:
@mischl THAT'S a meaningless statement.
The biggest problem for apologetics is that it exist. Here I explain why. What do you think?
Word comments on Jul 11, 2020:
Your apology is not needed. It is clearly accepted that god(s) exist. Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'? John 10:34
Gods are people. People are gods. Gods exist, people exist no appologies needed. Atheism illogical.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 12, 2020:
Huh?
Word comments on Jul 11, 2020:
Your apology is not needed. It is clearly accepted that god(s) exist. Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'? John 10:34
Gods are people. People are gods. Gods exist, people exist no appologies needed. Atheism illogical.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 12, 2020:
Huh?
114 days to go. Hang on, America.
David1955 comments on Jul 11, 2020:
Then prepare for the final act in what has been a slow motion coup by forces of white fascist oligarchical authoritarianism in America, which will not be pretty, and may not be unsuccessful given the systemic weaknesses of the American Republic thus far revealed.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 12, 2020:
NO!
And drop the anti-white smear.
David1955 comments on Jul 11, 2020:
Then prepare for the final act in what has been a slow motion coup by forces of white fascist oligarchical authoritarianism in America, which will not be pretty, and may not be unsuccessful given the systemic weaknesses of the American Republic thus far revealed.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 12, 2020:
NO!
And drop the anti-white smear.
I love being able to have reasonable conversations with like minded people (godless skeptics), but ...
Storm1752 comments on Jul 10, 2020:
I don't BELIEVE IN anything, being an 'Ignostic/Agnostic Neo-Deist Pantheist,' but bullshit is my specialty! AND I'm lots of fun.
'Hard' Atheists, on the other hand, can get boring as a steady diet. And constipating. Too much fiber.
No, variety, by way of chocolate and ice cream (plus of course ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 11, 2020:
@kanzen I myself can argue (and do) ANY belief system is dogmatic and therefore boring. Unless you completely 100% agree.
THUS IT'S ALL 100% BALONEY, and as we all know baloney is probably the worst, least nutritious luncheon meat.
No, 'hard' atheists are as tasteless as theists, which is why it's better to have fluid, changeable opinions about everything EXCEPT people who are positively sure about anything. Except Republicans.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 10, 2020:
I don't BELIEVE IN anything, being an 'Ignostic/Agnostic Neo-Deist Pantheist,' but bullshit is my specialty! AND I'm lots of fun.
'Hard' Atheists, on the other hand, can get boring as a steady diet. And constipating. Too much fiber.
No, variety, by way of chocolate and ice cream (plus of course ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 11, 2020:
@kanzen I myself can argue (and do) ANY belief system is dogmatic and therefore boring. Unless you completely 100% agree.
THUS IT'S ALL 100% BALONEY, and as we all know baloney is probably the worst, least nutritious luncheon meat.
No, 'hard' atheists are as tasteless as theists, which is why it's better to have fluid, changeable opinions about everything EXCEPT people who are positively sure about anything. Except Republicans.
Trump Melts Down Live After SCOTUS Rules He Must Turn Over His Tax Returns. [politicususa.com]
Storm1752 comments on Jul 9, 2020:
I'll believe it when I see it.
Surely there's some way for him to weasel out of forking them over.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 10, 2020:
@LuvLayne I've just recently started watching the news again, and it IS shocking.
Even more shocking is if you switch back and forth between MSNBC and Fox News...talk about parallel universes! Is there NOTHING Fox won't twist, warp, or outright lie about?!?
It's been years since I listened to AM Radio...one thing I'll never forgive Obama for is not at least TRYING to reinstill the Fairness Doctrine. I don't doubt ratings are better for Clear Channel et al. now, but like the doctrine says, it'd just plain UNFAIR and immoral and definitely undemocratic to allow the far right a monopoly, to say nothing of unconstutional. Isn't the First Amendment applicable? Of course it is.
This monopoly has a profound political impact, I'm convinced. Why doesn't someone find just cause to sue? There must be a reason. Whatever it is, it's not good enough!
Storm1752 comments on Jul 9, 2020:
I'll believe it when I see it.
Surely there's some way for him to weasel out of forking them over.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 10, 2020:
@LuvLayne I've just recently started watching the news again, and it IS shocking.
Even more shocking is if you switch back and forth between MSNBC and Fox News...talk about parallel universes! Is there NOTHING Fox won't twist, warp, or outright lie about?!?
It's been years since I listened to AM Radio...one thing I'll never forgive Obama for is not at least TRYING to reinstill the Fairness Doctrine. I don't doubt ratings are better for Clear Channel et al. now, but like the doctrine says, it'd just plain UNFAIR and immoral and definitely undemocratic to allow the far right a monopoly, to say nothing of unconstutional. Isn't the First Amendment applicable? Of course it is.
This monopoly has a profound political impact, I'm convinced. Why doesn't someone find just cause to sue? There must be a reason. Whatever it is, it's not good enough!
For a newish member who has messaging off, I hope you see this:
You list that you’re agnostic, ...
Storm1752 comments on Jul 7, 2020:
Even if there WAS a god, it wouldn't hate anybody because:
1. A true God would be incapable of hate.
2. If there IS a god, it might be an 'IT,' not a person or personal entity at all. IT might include everything, including all of us, and god can't hate itself, for sure!
3. Even if there's no god,...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 9, 2020:
@Pjsmylz You say, "whatever created DNA;" what IF nothing created DNA? What if it ALWAYS existed? I know, that's counterintuitive, because it seems to go without saying it HAD to have been created at some point.
But if the universe has always existed (e=mc√ --. Energy and Mass are two forms of the same thing, so cannot be created or destroyed, ergo the Big Bang Theory is wrong, the Big Bounce says it's an eternal cycle), then so has DNA.
BUT it may be irrelevant, if you say instead, 'Whatever causes DNA.'
THAT is, the physical processes which cause DNA to form in the presence of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen. Since (it's believed) these elements are everywhere, so is life.
We're told 'god' wasn't created, has always been here, and will endure forever. Maybe 'god' is the universe.
Does that make any sense?
Like I said, I border on being Ignostic. It's a mystery because no matter how far down the labyrinthian path you go, you always end up back where you started.
Maybe science will solve the riddle some day.
Good luck.
I just have a hard time believing in 'nothing.'
Storm1752 comments on Jul 7, 2020:
Even if there WAS a god, it wouldn't hate anybody because:
1. A true God would be incapable of hate.
2. If there IS a god, it might be an 'IT,' not a person or personal entity at all. IT might include everything, including all of us, and god can't hate itself, for sure!
3. Even if there's no god,...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 9, 2020:
@Pjsmylz You say, "whatever created DNA;" what IF nothing created DNA? What if it ALWAYS existed? I know, that's counterintuitive, because it seems to go without saying it HAD to have been created at some point.
But if the universe has always existed (e=mc√ --. Energy and Mass are two forms of the same thing, so cannot be created or destroyed, ergo the Big Bang Theory is wrong, the Big Bounce says it's an eternal cycle), then so has DNA.
BUT it may be irrelevant, if you say instead, 'Whatever causes DNA.'
THAT is, the physical processes which cause DNA to form in the presence of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen. Since (it's believed) these elements are everywhere, so is life.
We're told 'god' wasn't created, has always been here, and will endure forever. Maybe 'god' is the universe.
Does that make any sense?
Like I said, I border on being Ignostic. It's a mystery because no matter how far down the labyrinthian path you go, you always end up back where you started.
Maybe science will solve the riddle some day.
Good luck.
I just have a hard time believing in 'nothing.'
For a newish member who has messaging off, I hope you see this:
You list that you’re agnostic, ...
Storm1752 comments on Jul 7, 2020:
Even if there WAS a god, it wouldn't hate anybody because:
1. A true God would be incapable of hate.
2. If there IS a god, it might be an 'IT,' not a person or personal entity at all. IT might include everything, including all of us, and god can't hate itself, for sure!
3. Even if there's no god,...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 8, 2020:
@Theresa_N No, I don't. YOU believe I believe something I don't. I think it's possible, as do you. I just think it's neither likely nor unlikely. You feel much more strongly about it than I do.
I told you, I'm agnostic and/or Ignostic...it's all a big mystery to me, baby.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 7, 2020:
Even if there WAS a god, it wouldn't hate anybody because:
1. A true God would be incapable of hate.
2. If there IS a god, it might be an 'IT,' not a person or personal entity at all. IT might include everything, including all of us, and god can't hate itself, for sure!
3. Even if there's no god,...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 8, 2020:
@Theresa_N No, I don't. YOU believe I believe something I don't. I think it's possible, as do you. I just think it's neither likely nor unlikely. You feel much more strongly about it than I do.
I told you, I'm agnostic and/or Ignostic...it's all a big mystery to me, baby.
For a newish member who has messaging off, I hope you see this:
You list that you’re agnostic, ...
Storm1752 comments on Jul 7, 2020:
Even if there WAS a god, it wouldn't hate anybody because:
1. A true God would be incapable of hate.
2. If there IS a god, it might be an 'IT,' not a person or personal entity at all. IT might include everything, including all of us, and god can't hate itself, for sure!
3. Even if there's no god,...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 8, 2020:
@Theresa_N PLEASE, respectfully, don't tell me what to believe!
Having said that, I'm agnostic so I don't BELIEVE anything. I leave it up to theists and atheists to buy into belief systems.
Having said THAT, I guess I'm more accurately an 'Ignostic Neo-Deist.'
Whew! These labels get complicated sometimes! What that (sort of) means is, if there IS a 'god,' IT is so far beyond our comprehension it's really foolish and presumptuous (among other things) to even pretend to be able to talk about it intelligently.
Finally, my (wild) guess is there IS something--certainly not a personal Abrahamic entity who knows we exist and with whom we have any kind of 'relationship'--which by some unknown definition we can refer to as 'god.'
But we can only do so on this forum if we first go through a laborious explanation, and even then you're inviting a lot of blowback and a very tedious discussion by, usually, dogmatic, 'hard' atheists.
So do me a favor? Don't tell anybody I even brought it up!
Storm1752 comments on Jul 7, 2020:
Even if there WAS a god, it wouldn't hate anybody because:
1. A true God would be incapable of hate.
2. If there IS a god, it might be an 'IT,' not a person or personal entity at all. IT might include everything, including all of us, and god can't hate itself, for sure!
3. Even if there's no god,...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 8, 2020:
@Theresa_N PLEASE, respectfully, don't tell me what to believe!
Having said that, I'm agnostic so I don't BELIEVE anything. I leave it up to theists and atheists to buy into belief systems.
Having said THAT, I guess I'm more accurately an 'Ignostic Neo-Deist.'
Whew! These labels get complicated sometimes! What that (sort of) means is, if there IS a 'god,' IT is so far beyond our comprehension it's really foolish and presumptuous (among other things) to even pretend to be able to talk about it intelligently.
Finally, my (wild) guess is there IS something--certainly not a personal Abrahamic entity who knows we exist and with whom we have any kind of 'relationship'--which by some unknown definition we can refer to as 'god.'
But we can only do so on this forum if we first go through a laborious explanation, and even then you're inviting a lot of blowback and a very tedious discussion by, usually, dogmatic, 'hard' atheists.
So do me a favor? Don't tell anybody I even brought it up!
For a newish member who has messaging off, I hope you see this:
You list that you’re agnostic, ...
Dead comments on Jul 7, 2020:
And I don’t purposely have my messaging off I just don’t really know how to work this I guess. I was told this by somebody else but I didn’t turn anything off. I am chatting with someone else so I’m not quite sure what is wrong with my system
Storm1752 replies on Jul 7, 2020:
You sound lost.
Dead comments on Jul 7, 2020:
And I don’t purposely have my messaging off I just don’t really know how to work this I guess. I was told this by somebody else but I didn’t turn anything off. I am chatting with someone else so I’m not quite sure what is wrong with my system
Storm1752 replies on Jul 7, 2020:
You sound lost.
What do neo-Nordic beliefs have to do with racism?
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I know this is blasphemy, and I don't necessarily believe it myself, but is it possible white people--as do all races--enjoy certain innate strengths not shared to the same degree by other peoples? We spend so much time denigrating, criticizing, condemning, white people for lording it over others, ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@AtheistI. I've said all I wish to say on this subject.
Thanks.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I know this is blasphemy, and I don't necessarily believe it myself, but is it possible white people--as do all races--enjoy certain innate strengths not shared to the same degree by other peoples? We spend so much time denigrating, criticizing, condemning, white people for lording it over others, ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@AtheistI. I've said all I wish to say on this subject.
Thanks.
I understand protesting is part of democracy.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
Blocking highways: no.
Tearing down statues of Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and other racist traitors: yes.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@Grecio They shouldn't have to work for a living, right? Protesting all day every day is a much better use of their time, I'm sure you agree. And yours was a perfectly serious comment, one I'm responding to with the utmost amount of respect.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
Blocking highways: no.
Tearing down statues of Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and other racist traitors: yes.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@Grecio They shouldn't have to work for a living, right? Protesting all day every day is a much better use of their time, I'm sure you agree. And yours was a perfectly serious comment, one I'm responding to with the utmost amount of respect.
I understand protesting is part of democracy.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
Blocking highways: no.
Tearing down statues of Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and other racist traitors: yes.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@Grecio No not George Washington or Abraham Lincoln. Christopher Columbus, for sure. Confederate politicians and soldiers, definitely. That heritage, of slavery and treason, is a pretty crappy 'heritage,' and is best ridiculed or, better yet, forgotten. (Or is it vice versa?)
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
Blocking highways: no.
Tearing down statues of Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and other racist traitors: yes.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@Grecio No not George Washington or Abraham Lincoln. Christopher Columbus, for sure. Confederate politicians and soldiers, definitely. That heritage, of slavery and treason, is a pretty crappy 'heritage,' and is best ridiculed or, better yet, forgotten. (Or is it vice versa?)
"Who REALLY funded the Taliban to kill Americans?
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I'd be tempted to NEVER leave Afghanistan. Why should we? And let the Talibam resume subjugating that people to Islamic oppression? It isn't costing us much. Why not make it our 51st state?
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@FrayedBear Yes seriously. Muslims are like Star Trek's Borg. Once they take over a country/territory, they subjugate that people to THEIR religion/culture, and never give it back up. It's like Christianity was and sometimes still is, completely intolerant of other cultures and faiths. The only difference is, Christianity has had an extra 1400 years or so to 'mellow' somewhat. Same basic thing, though. In my opinion.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I'd be tempted to NEVER leave Afghanistan. Why should we? And let the Talibam resume subjugating that people to Islamic oppression? It isn't costing us much. Why not make it our 51st state?
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@FrayedBear Yes seriously. Muslims are like Star Trek's Borg. Once they take over a country/territory, they subjugate that people to THEIR religion/culture, and never give it back up. It's like Christianity was and sometimes still is, completely intolerant of other cultures and faiths. The only difference is, Christianity has had an extra 1400 years or so to 'mellow' somewhat. Same basic thing, though. In my opinion.
"Who REALLY funded the Taliban to kill Americans?
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I'd be tempted to NEVER leave Afghanistan. Why should we? And let the Talibam resume subjugating that people to Islamic oppression? It isn't costing us much. Why not make it our 51st state?
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@FrayedBear So you think the very existence of Israel amounts to an 'occupation?' If so, should the Jews either pack up and leave, or accept second-class status?
I not sure they would agree to that.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I'd be tempted to NEVER leave Afghanistan. Why should we? And let the Talibam resume subjugating that people to Islamic oppression? It isn't costing us much. Why not make it our 51st state?
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@FrayedBear So you think the very existence of Israel amounts to an 'occupation?' If so, should the Jews either pack up and leave, or accept second-class status?
I not sure they would agree to that.
"Who REALLY funded the Taliban to kill Americans?
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I'd be tempted to NEVER leave Afghanistan. Why should we? And let the Talibam resume subjugating that people to Islamic oppression? It isn't costing us much. Why not make it our 51st state?
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@FrayedBear I'm not denying anything. Things are not so simple one group can be demonized while the other can achieve sainthood.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I'd be tempted to NEVER leave Afghanistan. Why should we? And let the Talibam resume subjugating that people to Islamic oppression? It isn't costing us much. Why not make it our 51st state?
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@FrayedBear I'm not denying anything. Things are not so simple one group can be demonized while the other can achieve sainthood.
What do neo-Nordic beliefs have to do with racism?
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I know this is blasphemy, and I don't necessarily believe it myself, but is it possible white people--as do all races--enjoy certain innate strengths not shared to the same degree by other peoples? We spend so much time denigrating, criticizing, condemning, white people for lording it over others, ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@AtheistInNC I tried to explain what I meant, but you're intent on demonising the entire thought process and to paint me as a white supremacist. I still have a few more entries to read and here's hoping they're not all as 'politely' condemnatory. I think there's a valid point to be made here but it doesn't seem so far I'm the one to make it.
That is, I think there are real differences among the subspecies (the word meant more loosely in human terms than as scientifically applied to other animals), not differences which make one 'superior' to the others, but which may account for the white man's ability and willingness to embark on their disgraceful recent history of colonialism built upon technological superiority.
Much of that may simply be an accident of history, and some of it may originate in real innate differences. I'm not an expert on the subject so maybe I shouldn't have brought attention to these meandering thoughts, since my musings were bound to attract considerable ridicule and scorn.
So be it. It's happened before and it'll probably happen again. A 'herd mentality' seems to kick in; one person gets the ball rolling, so to speak, and others pile on.
But there have been some interesting comments as well.
I'll just reiterate my original idea, that there are actually some things to CELEBRATE about the accomplishments of 'white people' as a group (which you deny exist) which has been lost, buried under an avalanche of (justified) criticism, because of the deep and seemingly indelible stains of 'colonialism,'
slavery, religious bigotry, and so on.
Plus technology itself has been a double-edged sword, bringing us unparalleled and heretofore unthinkable prosperity, but at the same time to the brink of self-extinction.
So I was asking a lot, maybe too much.
I actually think we'd be better off melding into one big gene pool (which may be happening) wherein the best aspects of the genome as a whole were shared. (I read we'd all be mostly Asian!)
Well, cast stones if you must. I'm just a poor white boy (stumbling all over myself) trying to make sense of it all.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I know this is blasphemy, and I don't necessarily believe it myself, but is it possible white people--as do all races--enjoy certain innate strengths not shared to the same degree by other peoples? We spend so much time denigrating, criticizing, condemning, white people for lording it over others, ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 6, 2020:
@AtheistInNC I tried to explain what I meant, but you're intent on demonising the entire thought process and to paint me as a white supremacist. I still have a few more entries to read and here's hoping they're not all as 'politely' condemnatory. I think there's a valid point to be made here but it doesn't seem so far I'm the one to make it.
That is, I think there are real differences among the subspecies (the word meant more loosely in human terms than as scientifically applied to other animals), not differences which make one 'superior' to the others, but which may account for the white man's ability and willingness to embark on their disgraceful recent history of colonialism built upon technological superiority.
Much of that may simply be an accident of history, and some of it may originate in real innate differences. I'm not an expert on the subject so maybe I shouldn't have brought attention to these meandering thoughts, since my musings were bound to attract considerable ridicule and scorn.
So be it. It's happened before and it'll probably happen again. A 'herd mentality' seems to kick in; one person gets the ball rolling, so to speak, and others pile on.
But there have been some interesting comments as well.
I'll just reiterate my original idea, that there are actually some things to CELEBRATE about the accomplishments of 'white people' as a group (which you deny exist) which has been lost, buried under an avalanche of (justified) criticism, because of the deep and seemingly indelible stains of 'colonialism,'
slavery, religious bigotry, and so on.
Plus technology itself has been a double-edged sword, bringing us unparalleled and heretofore unthinkable prosperity, but at the same time to the brink of self-extinction.
So I was asking a lot, maybe too much.
I actually think we'd be better off melding into one big gene pool (which may be happening) wherein the best aspects of the genome as a whole were shared. (I read we'd all be mostly Asian!)
Well, cast stones if you must. I'm just a poor white boy (stumbling all over myself) trying to make sense of it all.
"Who REALLY funded the Taliban to kill Americans?
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I'd be tempted to NEVER leave Afghanistan. Why should we? And let the Talibam resume subjugating that people to Islamic oppression? It isn't costing us much. Why not make it our 51st state?
Storm1752 replies on Jul 5, 2020:
@bklynite53 Probably true, because Muslims do not forget. THEY won't rest until they recapture Spain!
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I'd be tempted to NEVER leave Afghanistan. Why should we? And let the Talibam resume subjugating that people to Islamic oppression? It isn't costing us much. Why not make it our 51st state?
Storm1752 replies on Jul 5, 2020:
@bklynite53 Probably true, because Muslims do not forget. THEY won't rest until they recapture Spain!
What do neo-Nordic beliefs have to do with racism?
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I know this is blasphemy, and I don't necessarily believe it myself, but is it possible white people--as do all races--enjoy certain innate strengths not shared to the same degree by other peoples? We spend so much time denigrating, criticizing, condemning, white people for lording it over others, ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 5, 2020:
@AtheistInNC Go crawl back under a rock?
Thanks. I'll consider it.
In the meantime, yes all human beings are members of the same species, or 'race' if you will, but like, for instance, dogs have different 'breeds,' we have different 'strains.' Yes a St. Bernard and a poodle and a doberman are all dogs, so share basic genetic traits, there are also undeniable differences. Does that make one dog "superior" to the others?
No, of course not, but it DOES mean one is better operating in Alpine conditions, one is better at being a guard/attack dog, the poodle is usually regarded as being the best to train to do certain tasks, and so on. THEY ARE EQUAL as far as their intrinsic worth is concerned, but to ignore or deny obvious differences is to admit your ignorance, if not to yourself then to everybody else around you.
A "synchopant to white power assholes?" That hurts my feelings.
Try someone who recognizes some white people have taken their advantages and shaped them into blunt weapons to victimize the rest of humanity. THOSE people (and their descendants) do not regret their actions, as indicated by the persistence of racism today, but the rest of us of 'white extraction' DO regret it very much.
All I'M saying is, can we not make the distinction between those people (the monied interests who destroyed Mayan, Aztec, Incan, and all North American civilizations in pursuit of riches, all Asian and Indian and African societies as well) and the rest of us, and acknowledge the good and useful and valuable things about us worth preserving?
Why don't YOU go crawl under a rock? You are intellectually lazy if you think name-calling is the appropriate response when someone attempts to add a little nuance and context to a very complicated issue.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I know this is blasphemy, and I don't necessarily believe it myself, but is it possible white people--as do all races--enjoy certain innate strengths not shared to the same degree by other peoples? We spend so much time denigrating, criticizing, condemning, white people for lording it over others, ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 5, 2020:
@AtheistInNC Go crawl back under a rock?
Thanks. I'll consider it.
In the meantime, yes all human beings are members of the same species, or 'race' if you will, but like, for instance, dogs have different 'breeds,' we have different 'strains.' Yes a St. Bernard and a poodle and a doberman are all dogs, so share basic genetic traits, there are also undeniable differences. Does that make one dog "superior" to the others?
No, of course not, but it DOES mean one is better operating in Alpine conditions, one is better at being a guard/attack dog, the poodle is usually regarded as being the best to train to do certain tasks, and so on. THEY ARE EQUAL as far as their intrinsic worth is concerned, but to ignore or deny obvious differences is to admit your ignorance, if not to yourself then to everybody else around you.
A "synchopant to white power assholes?" That hurts my feelings.
Try someone who recognizes some white people have taken their advantages and shaped them into blunt weapons to victimize the rest of humanity. THOSE people (and their descendants) do not regret their actions, as indicated by the persistence of racism today, but the rest of us of 'white extraction' DO regret it very much.
All I'M saying is, can we not make the distinction between those people (the monied interests who destroyed Mayan, Aztec, Incan, and all North American civilizations in pursuit of riches, all Asian and Indian and African societies as well) and the rest of us, and acknowledge the good and useful and valuable things about us worth preserving?
Why don't YOU go crawl under a rock? You are intellectually lazy if you think name-calling is the appropriate response when someone attempts to add a little nuance and context to a very complicated issue.
What do neo-Nordic beliefs have to do with racism?
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I know this is blasphemy, and I don't necessarily believe it myself, but is it possible white people--as do all races--enjoy certain innate strengths not shared to the same degree by other peoples? We spend so much time denigrating, criticizing, condemning, white people for lording it over others, ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
@Beowulfsfriend I'm using the word 'race' as one would use the word 'breed' if we were talking about dogs, say, or cats. And we're a species, right, wherever the word 'race' came from; we don't talk about the 'race' of dogs!
Anyway, are you saying there are no differences among the various 'strains' or ethnic groups of human beings--physical, intellectual, general makeup as it were, and it all has to do with upbringing and culture? I'm not sure that's the case. I'm not saying it ISN'T the case, but to me it looks like there are basic differences among blacks, Hispanics, Asians, native Americans, Eskimos, etc., that can't be chalked up to environmental factors alone. I'm NOT saying whites are "superior," just different, but that would apply to all 'breeds.'
(I say 'breeds' but I know nobody was 'bred.' Just a word. 'Strains' might be closer to the mark.)
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I know this is blasphemy, and I don't necessarily believe it myself, but is it possible white people--as do all races--enjoy certain innate strengths not shared to the same degree by other peoples? We spend so much time denigrating, criticizing, condemning, white people for lording it over others, ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
@Beowulfsfriend I'm using the word 'race' as one would use the word 'breed' if we were talking about dogs, say, or cats. And we're a species, right, wherever the word 'race' came from; we don't talk about the 'race' of dogs!
Anyway, are you saying there are no differences among the various 'strains' or ethnic groups of human beings--physical, intellectual, general makeup as it were, and it all has to do with upbringing and culture? I'm not sure that's the case. I'm not saying it ISN'T the case, but to me it looks like there are basic differences among blacks, Hispanics, Asians, native Americans, Eskimos, etc., that can't be chalked up to environmental factors alone. I'm NOT saying whites are "superior," just different, but that would apply to all 'breeds.'
(I say 'breeds' but I know nobody was 'bred.' Just a word. 'Strains' might be closer to the mark.)
"Who REALLY funded the Taliban to kill Americans?
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I'd be tempted to NEVER leave Afghanistan. Why should we? And let the Talibam resume subjugating that people to Islamic oppression? It isn't costing us much. Why not make it our 51st state?
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
@bklynite53 Semi-sarcastic. 51st state: facetitious, fairly cheap to stay now that we're there, the shame of leaving that sparsely-populated, war-torn country to those murderous fanatics...
BUT where in the world are there NOT murderous Muslim fanatics?!? The REAL shame is the religion (and all fanatical religious types--for that matter ALL fanatics, period) exists at all.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I'd be tempted to NEVER leave Afghanistan. Why should we? And let the Talibam resume subjugating that people to Islamic oppression? It isn't costing us much. Why not make it our 51st state?
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
@bklynite53 Semi-sarcastic. 51st state: facetitious, fairly cheap to stay now that we're there, the shame of leaving that sparsely-populated, war-torn country to those murderous fanatics...
BUT where in the world are there NOT murderous Muslim fanatics?!? The REAL shame is the religion (and all fanatical religious types--for that matter ALL fanatics, period) exists at all.
Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Combination in Patients Hospitalized with ...
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
So it looks like Trump MAY get a rare 'W.'
Good for him, IF true.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
@WilliamFleming Just going by what I'm reading here, William. Since I hope to be fortunate enough, 'sheltering in place' as I am, to never contract said virus, I further hope it's, for me at least, a moot point!
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
So it looks like Trump MAY get a rare 'W.'
Good for him, IF true.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
@WilliamFleming Just going by what I'm reading here, William. Since I hope to be fortunate enough, 'sheltering in place' as I am, to never contract said virus, I further hope it's, for me at least, a moot point!
Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Combination in Patients Hospitalized with ...
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
So it looks like Trump MAY get a rare 'W.'
Good for him, IF true.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
@AnneWimsey, @WilliamFleming Not a sports fan? A 'W' is a WIN!
Jury still out though, which is why I edited my comment.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
So it looks like Trump MAY get a rare 'W.'
Good for him, IF true.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
@AnneWimsey, @WilliamFleming Not a sports fan? A 'W' is a WIN!
Jury still out though, which is why I edited my comment.
Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Combination in Patients Hospitalized with ...
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
So it looks like Trump MAY get a rare 'W.'
Good for him, IF true.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
@AnneWimsey Oh...
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
So it looks like Trump MAY get a rare 'W.'
Good for him, IF true.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
@AnneWimsey Oh...
Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Combination in Patients Hospitalized with ...
LovinLarge comments on Jul 3, 2020:
I'm trying to understand the hostility generated by the study cited in this comment, particularly when no other research was properly referenced. Are we interpreting this research as a partisan issue because I just don't see it since Trump touted hydroxychloroquine as prevention not treatment, and ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
I agree the 'combativeness' of this forum is sometimes disheartening. You get inexorably sucked into it sometimes, particularly the vitrol directed at the odious personage of Donald Trump, when the problem is actually more symptomatic of a much larger 'right-wing conspiracy.'
AND at many sentiments expressed about Agnostics in general, as if any 'spiritual' thoughts or notions are automatically 'beliefs' and/or endorsements.
Anyway, it's still a fun and unique place to hang out, if you can deflect or sidestep some of the negativity.
LovinLarge comments on Jul 3, 2020:
I'm trying to understand the hostility generated by the study cited in this comment, particularly when no other research was properly referenced. Are we interpreting this research as a partisan issue because I just don't see it since Trump touted hydroxychloroquine as prevention not treatment, and ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
I agree the 'combativeness' of this forum is sometimes disheartening. You get inexorably sucked into it sometimes, particularly the vitrol directed at the odious personage of Donald Trump, when the problem is actually more symptomatic of a much larger 'right-wing conspiracy.'
AND at many sentiments expressed about Agnostics in general, as if any 'spiritual' thoughts or notions are automatically 'beliefs' and/or endorsements.
Anyway, it's still a fun and unique place to hang out, if you can deflect or sidestep some of the negativity.
Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and Combination in Patients Hospitalized with ...
Word comments on Jul 3, 2020:
The intelligence capabilities of people are slowing down things that evolutionary processes bring about to help with population control and eradication of homo sapiens.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
Are you postulating 'evolutionary processes' bring about 'population control and eradication of homo sapiens,' and intelligent people slow those processes down?
Does that mean de-evolution is the norm, or evolution naturally is arranging for human extinction?
How does that make sense?
Word comments on Jul 3, 2020:
The intelligence capabilities of people are slowing down things that evolutionary processes bring about to help with population control and eradication of homo sapiens.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
Are you postulating 'evolutionary processes' bring about 'population control and eradication of homo sapiens,' and intelligent people slow those processes down?
Does that mean de-evolution is the norm, or evolution naturally is arranging for human extinction?
How does that make sense?
What do neo-Nordic beliefs have to do with racism?
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I know this is blasphemy, and I don't necessarily believe it myself, but is it possible white people--as do all races--enjoy certain innate strengths not shared to the same degree by other peoples? We spend so much time denigrating, criticizing, condemning, white people for lording it over others, ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
@CommonHuman I disagree, based on personal observation and experiences, and much of what I've read and heard.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 4, 2020:
I know this is blasphemy, and I don't necessarily believe it myself, but is it possible white people--as do all races--enjoy certain innate strengths not shared to the same degree by other peoples? We spend so much time denigrating, criticizing, condemning, white people for lording it over others, ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 4, 2020:
@CommonHuman I disagree, based on personal observation and experiences, and much of what I've read and heard.
Unity 2020
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racocn8 comments on Jul 2, 2020:
Ridiculous and silly. Waste of time. As if Republican super-rich would ever share the wealth with the fellow republican voters. Democrats are not that disappointed in Biden; only the Bernie progressives who can't win and don't vote. Yang is an idiot; he has one good idea, moving toward a minimum ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 3, 2020:
Good comments.
racocn8 comments on Jul 2, 2020:
Ridiculous and silly. Waste of time. As if Republican super-rich would ever share the wealth with the fellow republican voters. Democrats are not that disappointed in Biden; only the Bernie progressives who can't win and don't vote. Yang is an idiot; he has one good idea, moving toward a minimum ...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 3, 2020:
Good comments.
Looking for others interested in Buddhist and Taoist philosophies in the SE Florida area.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 1, 2020:
North Florida here, but you'll have no problem finding pals down there.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 2, 2020:
@Hollyberry I'm trying likewise, but I live in Trump Country up here! Not many 'like-minded companion' types to be found. I'm agnostic, so instead I come here and amuse myself by arguing with 'hard' atheists and libertarians, etc., about oh-so-weighty issues...my definition of 'fun.'
(Btw, A Yaqui Way of Knowledge and Journey to Ixtlan were favorites of mine back in the 'blessed' 70s. What happened?!? I haven't tripped in decades!)
Storm1752 comments on Jul 1, 2020:
North Florida here, but you'll have no problem finding pals down there.
Storm1752 replies on Jul 2, 2020:
@Hollyberry I'm trying likewise, but I live in Trump Country up here! Not many 'like-minded companion' types to be found. I'm agnostic, so instead I come here and amuse myself by arguing with 'hard' atheists and libertarians, etc., about oh-so-weighty issues...my definition of 'fun.'
(Btw, A Yaqui Way of Knowledge and Journey to Ixtlan were favorites of mine back in the 'blessed' 70s. What happened?!? I haven't tripped in decades!)
Woodrow Wilson a PROGRESSIVE president, created the Federal reserve in 1913, to STABILIZE the ...
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
The REAL problem is the super-rich and the corporations pay almost NO taxes, a deliberate ploy by Republicans to starve the government of the money it needs to operate. It used 'supply-side economics' as the rationale, claiming the rich would use the money to invest in new industry, thus stimulating...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 2, 2020:
@Rich177 There you go again with the name-calling...you really should do something about that. Lazy: in November, 2016 I got rear-rammed by a semi truck, which fractured my spine in three places (if you must know), so I have a physical disability. What's your excuse? What do YOU do which is so industrious? Nothing. You simply have knowledge of how to manipulate that FIAT currency you're so keen on criticizing.
I don't buy the supply-side argument 'your kind' is always pushing. Less taxation equals more tax revenue? Baloney. That only works up to a point: about 30% is the figure I've heard. Yes of course states are always competing for business, and business will often go where taxes are lower and other incentives are higher. For instance, "Right to Work" states are popular, because they're union-free so the businesses can really stick it to employees. Duh. All that means is Big Business (ie, the Oligarchs) have succeeded in more or less doing away with union/worker protections on the federal level. Other federal regulations are also conveniently lacking, making this capital flight possible. This is a result of "federalism" run amok, power inappropriately devolving to the states because federal rules have been quietly eliminated by successive Republican administrations, Congressional actions, and the concerted and sustained 'lobbying' (bribery) of greedy business interests. These same interests lied to the American people (through pliant politicians) that they would reinvest the money saved in taxes into domestic industry; instead of course they exported that money (read, jobs) to Asia, Mexico, South America, etc.) where labor is plentiful and dirt cheap.
A short analysis of the "green new deal:" it's a fantasy, of course, sort of like your libertarian fantasies from your angle. It's an environmental wet dream, how it SHOULD be if everybody took 'climate change' seriously, and if degradation/destruction of the environment meant as much as it arguably should. Clearly, as can be amply demonstrated via Fox News, AM Radio, and right-wing 'thinkers' in general, the natural world is simply another, minor, cost of production. Since that cost cannot be externalized, it is just denied outright. This is necessary, as you surely know, because corporations are people, with the same rights as individuals, a bit of pernicious fiction visited upon us by the Supreme Court sometime early on in the 19th century, people who MUST maximize profits for shareholders at ALL costs--the environment, workers' rights, you name it. Therefore it is their DUTY to lie if necessary to maximize profits. Earlier on in the history of the United States, corporations operated under charters, and had to demonstrate to government they were conducting themselves in the public interest. That ...
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
The REAL problem is the super-rich and the corporations pay almost NO taxes, a deliberate ploy by Republicans to starve the government of the money it needs to operate. It used 'supply-side economics' as the rationale, claiming the rich would use the money to invest in new industry, thus stimulating...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 2, 2020:
@Rich177 There you go again with the name-calling...you really should do something about that. Lazy: in November, 2016 I got rear-rammed by a semi truck, which fractured my spine in three places (if you must know), so I have a physical disability. What's your excuse? What do YOU do which is so industrious? Nothing. You simply have knowledge of how to manipulate that FIAT currency you're so keen on criticizing.
I don't buy the supply-side argument 'your kind' is always pushing. Less taxation equals more tax revenue? Baloney. That only works up to a point: about 30% is the figure I've heard. Yes of course states are always competing for business, and business will often go where taxes are lower and other incentives are higher. For instance, "Right to Work" states are popular, because they're union-free so the businesses can really stick it to employees. Duh. All that means is Big Business (ie, the Oligarchs) have succeeded in more or less doing away with union/worker protections on the federal level. Other federal regulations are also conveniently lacking, making this capital flight possible. This is a result of "federalism" run amok, power inappropriately devolving to the states because federal rules have been quietly eliminated by successive Republican administrations, Congressional actions, and the concerted and sustained 'lobbying' (bribery) of greedy business interests. These same interests lied to the American people (through pliant politicians) that they would reinvest the money saved in taxes into domestic industry; instead of course they exported that money (read, jobs) to Asia, Mexico, South America, etc.) where labor is plentiful and dirt cheap.
A short analysis of the "green new deal:" it's a fantasy, of course, sort of like your libertarian fantasies from your angle. It's an environmental wet dream, how it SHOULD be if everybody took 'climate change' seriously, and if degradation/destruction of the environment meant as much as it arguably should. Clearly, as can be amply demonstrated via Fox News, AM Radio, and right-wing 'thinkers' in general, the natural world is simply another, minor, cost of production. Since that cost cannot be externalized, it is just denied outright. This is necessary, as you surely know, because corporations are people, with the same rights as individuals, a bit of pernicious fiction visited upon us by the Supreme Court sometime early on in the 19th century, people who MUST maximize profits for shareholders at ALL costs--the environment, workers' rights, you name it. Therefore it is their DUTY to lie if necessary to maximize profits. Earlier on in the history of the United States, corporations operated under charters, and had to demonstrate to government they were conducting themselves in the public interest. That ...
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
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Storm1752 comments on Jul 1, 2020:
Define "sound."
Storm1752 replies on Jul 2, 2020:
@Fred_Snerd Well if it's a "sound" only if someone hears it, then no, it doesn't make one.
If a "sound" is the vibration itself, then yes, it does.
Storm1752 comments on Jul 1, 2020:
Define "sound."
Storm1752 replies on Jul 2, 2020:
@Fred_Snerd Well if it's a "sound" only if someone hears it, then no, it doesn't make one.
If a "sound" is the vibration itself, then yes, it does.
Woodrow Wilson a PROGRESSIVE president, created the Federal reserve in 1913, to STABILIZE the ...
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
The REAL problem is the super-rich and the corporations pay almost NO taxes, a deliberate ploy by Republicans to starve the government of the money it needs to operate. It used 'supply-side economics' as the rationale, claiming the rich would use the money to invest in new industry, thus stimulating...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 2, 2020:
@Rich177 You're amazing. Just the fact you say I said I suggested we tax people 100% tells me you simply are either attempting to confuse/anger me or channel me into a non-productive dead end, or you haven't read what I wrote, or are creating a straw dog. Also, saying I suggested the problem is not taxing at a high enough rate is blatantly inaccurate. Of course I said nothing of the kind.
Similarly, your apparently feigned and exaggerated condenscension leaves me with the distinct impression you wish not to address my various points, which I can repeat in distilled form: the Democrats have TRIED to work with Republicans to get closer to a balanced budget by offering to cut spending in return for a proportionate increase in taxes. They have consistently refused, insisting on budget cuts alone. In fact, whenever possible they do cut taxes alone, unilaterally, especially on those in the higher tax brackets. Now in a country of about 350 million people, spending can only be cut so much before the government itself becomes non-functional. If that is the GOAL, of course, this is not a problem; rather, it is a means to an end.
Clearly, you're an Objectivist Libertarian. In my opinion, that is an extremely impractical, unrealistic position. In other words, you are not even TRYING to deal with reality. You are taking what you consider a principled stance, but it is largely a symbolic representation of what you consider an IDEAL state of affairs "in a perfect world," not a realistic, pragmatic one which would lead to effective governance, or even a productive conversation..
So I again find myself engaging with a non-serious person whose aim is not to compromise and accommodate, but rather establish a initial position and stick to it despite attempts to reach a deeper understanding of the issues involved.
I'll continue this charade as long as you wish, but with regret and increasing disinterest, since nothing substantive is being accomplished, and more importantly, will not BE accomplished if this 'chat' continues past the point at which into it has already devolved, a pointless impasse.
I WILL say it's too bad Republicans in Congress almost to a man, these days, have the same uncompromisingly absolutist attitude as you. It's really a 'miracle' anything gets done!
(Oh that's right, nothing DOES get done!)
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
The REAL problem is the super-rich and the corporations pay almost NO taxes, a deliberate ploy by Republicans to starve the government of the money it needs to operate. It used 'supply-side economics' as the rationale, claiming the rich would use the money to invest in new industry, thus stimulating...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 2, 2020:
@Rich177 You're amazing. Just the fact you say I said I suggested we tax people 100% tells me you simply are either attempting to confuse/anger me or channel me into a non-productive dead end, or you haven't read what I wrote, or are creating a straw dog. Also, saying I suggested the problem is not taxing at a high enough rate is blatantly inaccurate. Of course I said nothing of the kind.
Similarly, your apparently feigned and exaggerated condenscension leaves me with the distinct impression you wish not to address my various points, which I can repeat in distilled form: the Democrats have TRIED to work with Republicans to get closer to a balanced budget by offering to cut spending in return for a proportionate increase in taxes. They have consistently refused, insisting on budget cuts alone. In fact, whenever possible they do cut taxes alone, unilaterally, especially on those in the higher tax brackets. Now in a country of about 350 million people, spending can only be cut so much before the government itself becomes non-functional. If that is the GOAL, of course, this is not a problem; rather, it is a means to an end.
Clearly, you're an Objectivist Libertarian. In my opinion, that is an extremely impractical, unrealistic position. In other words, you are not even TRYING to deal with reality. You are taking what you consider a principled stance, but it is largely a symbolic representation of what you consider an IDEAL state of affairs "in a perfect world," not a realistic, pragmatic one which would lead to effective governance, or even a productive conversation..
So I again find myself engaging with a non-serious person whose aim is not to compromise and accommodate, but rather establish a initial position and stick to it despite attempts to reach a deeper understanding of the issues involved.
I'll continue this charade as long as you wish, but with regret and increasing disinterest, since nothing substantive is being accomplished, and more importantly, will not BE accomplished if this 'chat' continues past the point at which into it has already devolved, a pointless impasse.
I WILL say it's too bad Republicans in Congress almost to a man, these days, have the same uncompromisingly absolutist attitude as you. It's really a 'miracle' anything gets done!
(Oh that's right, nothing DOES get done!)
Woodrow Wilson a PROGRESSIVE president, created the Federal reserve in 1913, to STABILIZE the ...
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
The REAL problem is the super-rich and the corporations pay almost NO taxes, a deliberate ploy by Republicans to starve the government of the money it needs to operate. It used 'supply-side economics' as the rationale, claiming the rich would use the money to invest in new industry, thus stimulating...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 1, 2020:
@Rich177 The main point is, revenue SHOULD equal expenditures. Your personal attacks mean nothing to me, except to betray the weakness of your arguments. I doubt very many people are reading this anyway. No on wants to read garbage, which is what happens when people resort to name-calling.
Republicans have deliberately created monstrous deficits in order to force the Democrats to agree to sharply curtailed spending. This has resulted in, among other things, severe understaffing of the FDA, the EPA, and all other agencies. It has resulted in sharp reductions in social services, among other things. And STILL there are deficits approaching a TRILLION dollars a year (and forget about this year!).
The Pubs think, perhaps correctly, eventually a showdown (for real) will happen, and they will win, the government will be stripped to the skeleton, and it will shrink to pre-New Deal proportions.
Either that, or they really do believe their supply-side fantasy, which I find unfathomable.
Either that, or they hope eventually *they'll gain enough of a political advantage their brand of change will happen unilaterally,
*most power will devolve back to the States, and/or
*the incipient oligarchy will cement permanent dominance, and/or
*an imminent Constitutional Convention will allow sweeping changes to our basic charter in their favor.
Or some other fundamental change will occur.
Short of that, it should be obvious the budget SHOULD be balanced, regardless of ideology. If it requires steep increases in taxation, it should occur. If there is a tax rebellion as a result, so be it.
If that occurs and there are draconian cuts in spending as a result, so be it. There may be riots in the streets and/or many people may suffer and die, but in the long run the fiscal house would be put back in order.
It can't go on this way, is for sure.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
The REAL problem is the super-rich and the corporations pay almost NO taxes, a deliberate ploy by Republicans to starve the government of the money it needs to operate. It used 'supply-side economics' as the rationale, claiming the rich would use the money to invest in new industry, thus stimulating...
Storm1752 replies on Jul 1, 2020:
@Rich177 The main point is, revenue SHOULD equal expenditures. Your personal attacks mean nothing to me, except to betray the weakness of your arguments. I doubt very many people are reading this anyway. No on wants to read garbage, which is what happens when people resort to name-calling.
Republicans have deliberately created monstrous deficits in order to force the Democrats to agree to sharply curtailed spending. This has resulted in, among other things, severe understaffing of the FDA, the EPA, and all other agencies. It has resulted in sharp reductions in social services, among other things. And STILL there are deficits approaching a TRILLION dollars a year (and forget about this year!).
The Pubs think, perhaps correctly, eventually a showdown (for real) will happen, and they will win, the government will be stripped to the skeleton, and it will shrink to pre-New Deal proportions.
Either that, or they really do believe their supply-side fantasy, which I find unfathomable.
Either that, or they hope eventually *they'll gain enough of a political advantage their brand of change will happen unilaterally,
*most power will devolve back to the States, and/or
*the incipient oligarchy will cement permanent dominance, and/or
*an imminent Constitutional Convention will allow sweeping changes to our basic charter in their favor.
Or some other fundamental change will occur.
Short of that, it should be obvious the budget SHOULD be balanced, regardless of ideology. If it requires steep increases in taxation, it should occur. If there is a tax rebellion as a result, so be it.
If that occurs and there are draconian cuts in spending as a result, so be it. There may be riots in the streets and/or many people may suffer and die, but in the long run the fiscal house would be put back in order.
It can't go on this way, is for sure.
Definitely a cocktail...
St-Sinner comments on Jun 30, 2020:
Yes, yes, we all agreed and that's why we are here.
I do not know why agnostic/atheist institutions like the FFRF and others are not more forceful and aggressive against this bullshit. Religion did not win by being passive over thousands of years. They seized power, they were aggressive, went to ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 30, 2020:
You ARE them.
St-Sinner comments on Jun 30, 2020:
Yes, yes, we all agreed and that's why we are here.
I do not know why agnostic/atheist institutions like the FFRF and others are not more forceful and aggressive against this bullshit. Religion did not win by being passive over thousands of years. They seized power, they were aggressive, went to ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 30, 2020:
You ARE them.
Woodrow Wilson a PROGRESSIVE president, created the Federal reserve in 1913, to STABILIZE the ...
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
The REAL problem is the super-rich and the corporations pay almost NO taxes, a deliberate ploy by Republicans to starve the government of the money it needs to operate. It used 'supply-side economics' as the rationale, claiming the rich would use the money to invest in new industry, thus stimulating...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 30, 2020:
@Rich177 Homeless and MILLIONS in debt? Impressive.
What's your success story? Walk seven miles barefoot to a one-room schoolhouse every day? Raid the dumpster behind the McDonald's every evening? Study by candlelight in a cardboard box in the woods every night?
Your living in an ideological box yourself. Knowing about the socialist systems in Europe, how can you justify hoarding your money while people starve? Don't you ever feel guilty? I'm assuming you use every tax dodge and loophole available to you and probably pay next to nothing, am I right? And you tell yourself it's okay because 'those people' are stupid, lazy bums, right? And you watch Fox News religiously and Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are practically members of the family. Comfortably esconsed in your fantasy world, your rationalizations seem perfectly understandable, indeed praiseworthy.
I read The Richest Man in Babylon...good advice, if you have that 10% to save every week. Believe it or not, a lot of people don't have it. Some people need that education at which you scoff; sometimes your sure-fire formula for success won't or can't work, things go wrong...not to YOU, of course, you're too smart for that, work too hard, are just too darn much of a Winner to end up like that. Some people aren't so lucky--oh sorry, luck has nothing to do with it, right? Tough guys like you make their OWN luck! Hahaha.
Anyway, like it or not, government and bureaucracy are facts of modern Life, and are necessary for a reasonably efficient and smooth-functioning civilization to exist. Sorry if that upsets you.
I'm also sorry if your ideas of Supermen overcoming all obstacles, and heroically beating all odds, to emerge victorious, is just a fantasy in most cases. As is your hero John Galt. Hank Rearden is just a character in a wildly improbable fantasy novel by a bitter woman, disillusioned by war.
So rant on. In November there'll be a major power shift, and your Republican allies will be out on the street. Since they're all millionaires themselves no tin cup or EBT card will be needed. They'll be fine.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
The REAL problem is the super-rich and the corporations pay almost NO taxes, a deliberate ploy by Republicans to starve the government of the money it needs to operate. It used 'supply-side economics' as the rationale, claiming the rich would use the money to invest in new industry, thus stimulating...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 30, 2020:
@Rich177 Homeless and MILLIONS in debt? Impressive.
What's your success story? Walk seven miles barefoot to a one-room schoolhouse every day? Raid the dumpster behind the McDonald's every evening? Study by candlelight in a cardboard box in the woods every night?
Your living in an ideological box yourself. Knowing about the socialist systems in Europe, how can you justify hoarding your money while people starve? Don't you ever feel guilty? I'm assuming you use every tax dodge and loophole available to you and probably pay next to nothing, am I right? And you tell yourself it's okay because 'those people' are stupid, lazy bums, right? And you watch Fox News religiously and Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are practically members of the family. Comfortably esconsed in your fantasy world, your rationalizations seem perfectly understandable, indeed praiseworthy.
I read The Richest Man in Babylon...good advice, if you have that 10% to save every week. Believe it or not, a lot of people don't have it. Some people need that education at which you scoff; sometimes your sure-fire formula for success won't or can't work, things go wrong...not to YOU, of course, you're too smart for that, work too hard, are just too darn much of a Winner to end up like that. Some people aren't so lucky--oh sorry, luck has nothing to do with it, right? Tough guys like you make their OWN luck! Hahaha.
Anyway, like it or not, government and bureaucracy are facts of modern Life, and are necessary for a reasonably efficient and smooth-functioning civilization to exist. Sorry if that upsets you.
I'm also sorry if your ideas of Supermen overcoming all obstacles, and heroically beating all odds, to emerge victorious, is just a fantasy in most cases. As is your hero John Galt. Hank Rearden is just a character in a wildly improbable fantasy novel by a bitter woman, disillusioned by war.
So rant on. In November there'll be a major power shift, and your Republican allies will be out on the street. Since they're all millionaires themselves no tin cup or EBT card will be needed. They'll be fine.
Woodrow Wilson a PROGRESSIVE president, created the Federal reserve in 1913, to STABILIZE the ...
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
The REAL problem is the super-rich and the corporations pay almost NO taxes, a deliberate ploy by Republicans to starve the government of the money it needs to operate. It used 'supply-side economics' as the rationale, claiming the rich would use the money to invest in new industry, thus stimulating...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 30, 2020:
@Rich177 Kim who?
I'm semi-retired after a (fairly) successful career and am always looking to improve myself. Who the heck are you?
Btw, I love my Social Security and 'government handouts,' which I earned and accept gratefully, thankful the government has done some things right in the past--hopeful it reverses it's current ruinous course set for us by the greedy Republicans.
In my book, the only issue is, who gets the money? The super-rich and the military, or the lower- and middle-classes, who do most of the actual work instead of living off interest and capital gains?
The rich know they were born on third base and didn't hit a triple, had advantages not available to less fortunate people, and don't care. Their concerns are for themselves, their friends and family, period. They want to continue aristocratic, dynastic rule.
Only the government has the power to redistribute wealth and establish other avenues to upward mobility, so the lower classes have a shot at the good life, rather than society ossifying into a rigid class system.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 30, 2020:
The REAL problem is the super-rich and the corporations pay almost NO taxes, a deliberate ploy by Republicans to starve the government of the money it needs to operate. It used 'supply-side economics' as the rationale, claiming the rich would use the money to invest in new industry, thus stimulating...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 30, 2020:
@Rich177 Kim who?
I'm semi-retired after a (fairly) successful career and am always looking to improve myself. Who the heck are you?
Btw, I love my Social Security and 'government handouts,' which I earned and accept gratefully, thankful the government has done some things right in the past--hopeful it reverses it's current ruinous course set for us by the greedy Republicans.
In my book, the only issue is, who gets the money? The super-rich and the military, or the lower- and middle-classes, who do most of the actual work instead of living off interest and capital gains?
The rich know they were born on third base and didn't hit a triple, had advantages not available to less fortunate people, and don't care. Their concerns are for themselves, their friends and family, period. They want to continue aristocratic, dynastic rule.
Only the government has the power to redistribute wealth and establish other avenues to upward mobility, so the lower classes have a shot at the good life, rather than society ossifying into a rigid class system.
More LIES from 45.
FearlessFly comments on Jun 29, 2020:
I think Trump is rarely forthcoming with accurate facts, but how can any of us KNOW with certainty what was in his daily briefing(s), and the amount of certainty of what info may have been presented ?
Not even Adam Schiff (on tonights' PBS Newshour) made the claim(s) you are making. The House ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 30, 2020:
@dermot235 It reminds me of W., who ignored warnings in his daily brief before 9/11 about Osama Bin Laden getting ready to attack America (remember Richard Clark?), and/or weapons inspectors in Iraq practically BEGGING for more time to find those Weapons of Mass Destruction (remember Joe Wilson?).
Why we keep electing these Republican Liars bewilders me.
FearlessFly comments on Jun 29, 2020:
I think Trump is rarely forthcoming with accurate facts, but how can any of us KNOW with certainty what was in his daily briefing(s), and the amount of certainty of what info may have been presented ?
Not even Adam Schiff (on tonights' PBS Newshour) made the claim(s) you are making. The House ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 30, 2020:
@dermot235 It reminds me of W., who ignored warnings in his daily brief before 9/11 about Osama Bin Laden getting ready to attack America (remember Richard Clark?), and/or weapons inspectors in Iraq practically BEGGING for more time to find those Weapons of Mass Destruction (remember Joe Wilson?).
Why we keep electing these Republican Liars bewilders me.
Great Katie Hopkins:::: about how the welfare state fucks us all:::
[youtube.com]
Storm1752 comments on Jun 21, 2020:
I dunno, it's a been great for me...I get food assistance and SSI, which (as a handicapped person who'd be homeless living in a cardboard box otherwise) I really appreciate.
Why don't you talk to your super-rich elitist masters about slashing the military budget a few hundred billion, and paying ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 24, 2020:
@Rich177 blah, blah, blah. Spoken like a true Ayn Rand parrot, shrieking about the "Makers" and the "Takers, " huh? You just don't like what I'm saying because I'm taking the same fascist words used in your propaganda and throwing it back in your face.
The IDEAL is a government which speaks FOR the people and is it's united voice, which prevents criminals from making up nonsense ideology to use as a ruse to fool gullible people into voluntarily giving to them what they could not take by force
TRUE government isn't a loose confederation of individuals who consent to controlled mayhem, but a TRIBE of brothers and sisters who are all pulling in the same direction. The criminals work to DIVIDE citizens, and while they're fighting amongst themselves they sneak in unnoticed and steal them blind.
Your gibberish philosophy is that of the kleptocratic thugs called the Republican party who convince the downtrodden if they just cut taxes on the wealthy just a LITTLE bit more the economy will do so well tax revenue will actually go UP! And they believe it!
OR they convince them they'll go to hell if they don't get their way. In either case the super rich get richer, the middle class gets poorer, and the lower classes starve. And you have the nerve to tell me it's the fault of the poor! That they're lazy. Or stupid. Or just don't know the magic formula.
Well that's what you want to believe because it makes you all comfy-cozy in the voting booth while you pull the levers once again for the selfish bastards who pretend they're doing society a favor denying the poor decent schools, universal health care, a living wage, and so many other things, because, they say, only the affluent deserve such pampered treatment..
You're willfully blind!
Storm1752 comments on Jun 21, 2020:
I dunno, it's a been great for me...I get food assistance and SSI, which (as a handicapped person who'd be homeless living in a cardboard box otherwise) I really appreciate.
Why don't you talk to your super-rich elitist masters about slashing the military budget a few hundred billion, and paying ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 24, 2020:
@Rich177 blah, blah, blah. Spoken like a true Ayn Rand parrot, shrieking about the "Makers" and the "Takers, " huh? You just don't like what I'm saying because I'm taking the same fascist words used in your propaganda and throwing it back in your face.
The IDEAL is a government which speaks FOR the people and is it's united voice, which prevents criminals from making up nonsense ideology to use as a ruse to fool gullible people into voluntarily giving to them what they could not take by force
TRUE government isn't a loose confederation of individuals who consent to controlled mayhem, but a TRIBE of brothers and sisters who are all pulling in the same direction. The criminals work to DIVIDE citizens, and while they're fighting amongst themselves they sneak in unnoticed and steal them blind.
Your gibberish philosophy is that of the kleptocratic thugs called the Republican party who convince the downtrodden if they just cut taxes on the wealthy just a LITTLE bit more the economy will do so well tax revenue will actually go UP! And they believe it!
OR they convince them they'll go to hell if they don't get their way. In either case the super rich get richer, the middle class gets poorer, and the lower classes starve. And you have the nerve to tell me it's the fault of the poor! That they're lazy. Or stupid. Or just don't know the magic formula.
Well that's what you want to believe because it makes you all comfy-cozy in the voting booth while you pull the levers once again for the selfish bastards who pretend they're doing society a favor denying the poor decent schools, universal health care, a living wage, and so many other things, because, they say, only the affluent deserve such pampered treatment..
You're willfully blind!
Apparently Biden is now considering two x-cops of color for the VP spot.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 22, 2020:
I think democrats are brilliant, progressive people (like me) and should not be lumped in with Rethuglicans deserving your mockery. That's simplistic BS.
Storm1752 replies on Jun 24, 2020:
@EdEarl Reality dictates Dems play by the same crooked rules as Pubs. They TRIED to put in campaign finance laws but the Thugs in Congress and the Supreme Court did away with them. Don't you know that? Or do you not do Nuance and sophisticated thinking in general?
You want the Dems to fall on their swords in the name of ideologically purity? Go down in flames while shouting, "We we're right! See how principled we are?"
Get off this FALSE EQUIVALENCY! Look at where they stand on the ISSUES! No they are not perfect, but they're not criminally wedded to the Kleptocracy, like the Pubs, either.
GET REAL.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 22, 2020:
I think democrats are brilliant, progressive people (like me) and should not be lumped in with Rethuglicans deserving your mockery. That's simplistic BS.
Storm1752 replies on Jun 24, 2020:
@EdEarl Reality dictates Dems play by the same crooked rules as Pubs. They TRIED to put in campaign finance laws but the Thugs in Congress and the Supreme Court did away with them. Don't you know that? Or do you not do Nuance and sophisticated thinking in general?
You want the Dems to fall on their swords in the name of ideologically purity? Go down in flames while shouting, "We we're right! See how principled we are?"
Get off this FALSE EQUIVALENCY! Look at where they stand on the ISSUES! No they are not perfect, but they're not criminally wedded to the Kleptocracy, like the Pubs, either.
GET REAL.
Great Katie Hopkins:::: about how the welfare state fucks us all:::
[youtube.com]
Storm1752 comments on Jun 21, 2020:
I dunno, it's a been great for me...I get food assistance and SSI, which (as a handicapped person who'd be homeless living in a cardboard box otherwise) I really appreciate.
Why don't you talk to your super-rich elitist masters about slashing the military budget a few hundred billion, and paying ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 24, 2020:
@Rich177 Screw you. You want to believe that so you can hoard your money and not contribute to the uplifting of your fellow man. You've been captured by an ideology which conveniently gets you off the hook for what you OWE to the rest of society.
Part of the price of living in a just civilization is GIVING BACK, so people who did not have the GIFTS and ADVANTAGES you had can get a foothold on that ladder of success you assume is as easy for everybody else to climb as it was for you.
I have a college degree, and had a successful 13-year career as a journalist. I then went into business for myself and prospered. Don't lecture me about how to succeed in the cutthroat capitalist system, which forces you to use and abuse your fellow man (regardless of what the phony propaganda would have you believe). Spare me your platitudes about butterflies.
Government ideally is there in part to level the playing field, make sure everybody plays by the same rules, redistribute wealth equitably, and in general create a better, more enlightened society. It is to protect the less fortunate from people like you who spout poetry about the ' inconquerable individual will' while electing politicians who make sure you 'get yours' and the poor and downtrodden stay that way.
If there WAS a h--l I'd tell you to go there.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 21, 2020:
I dunno, it's a been great for me...I get food assistance and SSI, which (as a handicapped person who'd be homeless living in a cardboard box otherwise) I really appreciate.
Why don't you talk to your super-rich elitist masters about slashing the military budget a few hundred billion, and paying ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 24, 2020:
@Rich177 Screw you. You want to believe that so you can hoard your money and not contribute to the uplifting of your fellow man. You've been captured by an ideology which conveniently gets you off the hook for what you OWE to the rest of society.
Part of the price of living in a just civilization is GIVING BACK, so people who did not have the GIFTS and ADVANTAGES you had can get a foothold on that ladder of success you assume is as easy for everybody else to climb as it was for you.
I have a college degree, and had a successful 13-year career as a journalist. I then went into business for myself and prospered. Don't lecture me about how to succeed in the cutthroat capitalist system, which forces you to use and abuse your fellow man (regardless of what the phony propaganda would have you believe). Spare me your platitudes about butterflies.
Government ideally is there in part to level the playing field, make sure everybody plays by the same rules, redistribute wealth equitably, and in general create a better, more enlightened society. It is to protect the less fortunate from people like you who spout poetry about the ' inconquerable individual will' while electing politicians who make sure you 'get yours' and the poor and downtrodden stay that way.
If there WAS a h--l I'd tell you to go there.
StandwithMueller
On Monday, "President" Trump became the first president in modern ...
powder comments on Jun 23, 2020:
Trump is an idiot.......But!
IMHO pretty well all US presidents in my memory have been treasonist for the simple reason that they have put Israeli interests before those of the US.
Obama is actually the most obviously guilty of treason as his admin armed and trained al Nusra to fight the Syrian ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 23, 2020:
Ha! You wish!
Obama trained them to fight the SYRIAN ARMY, not the U.S. ....allies? Which allies? The Iraqis? The Kurds? And how was that "treason?" The former president did some unintentionally stupid things, but nothing like the deal Trump made with the Russians which essentially raised the white flag of surrender and retreat. Talk about cowardice! Has Trump done ANYTHING right since he took office?
But to hope he bails on the election is so ludicrous it might actually happen! President Pence? Another ludicrous thought. He'd be light-years worse than Trump, and everybody knows it.
Why don't you just resign yourself to the fact the Dems are going to landslide the Pubs this time, like they did in '08? Only this time Joe Biden will know what to do with a historic majority.
powder comments on Jun 23, 2020:
Trump is an idiot.......But!
IMHO pretty well all US presidents in my memory have been treasonist for the simple reason that they have put Israeli interests before those of the US.
Obama is actually the most obviously guilty of treason as his admin armed and trained al Nusra to fight the Syrian ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 23, 2020:
Ha! You wish!
Obama trained them to fight the SYRIAN ARMY, not the U.S. ....allies? Which allies? The Iraqis? The Kurds? And how was that "treason?" The former president did some unintentionally stupid things, but nothing like the deal Trump made with the Russians which essentially raised the white flag of surrender and retreat. Talk about cowardice! Has Trump done ANYTHING right since he took office?
But to hope he bails on the election is so ludicrous it might actually happen! President Pence? Another ludicrous thought. He'd be light-years worse than Trump, and everybody knows it.
Why don't you just resign yourself to the fact the Dems are going to landslide the Pubs this time, like they did in '08? Only this time Joe Biden will know what to do with a historic majority.
Great Katie Hopkins:::: about how the welfare state fucks us all:::
[youtube.com]
Storm1752 comments on Jun 21, 2020:
I dunno, it's a been great for me...I get food assistance and SSI, which (as a handicapped person who'd be homeless living in a cardboard box otherwise) I really appreciate.
Why don't you talk to your super-rich elitist masters about slashing the military budget a few hundred billion, and paying ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 22, 2020:
@Rich177 What? I don't know and I don't care. Whatever. All I know is I'm glad it is there, and if it was up to you it wouldn't be.
Socialism is a human response to a human need; laissez-faire capitalism, your preference, is pure greed and selfishness. Economic Darwinism, otherwise known as supply-side fraud, is the Law of the Jungle in disguise, tilting the rules to ensure the survival of those already the beneficiaries of unearned advantages and perks, hoarders of that which is only theirs through sheer circumstance and coincidence. You think you deserve your wealth due to your innate superiority, but the truth is your wealth was handed to you on a silver platter, and much of it should be redistributed to those less fortunate, whether you like it or not.
Whoa yourself. The "welfare state" is the only thing saving many people from from abject proverty and destitution. The problem is there is only just enough welfare for that, but not enough to lift them OUT of subsistence-level poverty and into middle-class prosperity...for that is needed training/education and other support---housing, food, day care, health care, etc.
In other words, much MORE welfare is needed, not less, and fat cats like you need to pay for it.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 21, 2020:
I dunno, it's a been great for me...I get food assistance and SSI, which (as a handicapped person who'd be homeless living in a cardboard box otherwise) I really appreciate.
Why don't you talk to your super-rich elitist masters about slashing the military budget a few hundred billion, and paying ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 22, 2020:
@Rich177 What? I don't know and I don't care. Whatever. All I know is I'm glad it is there, and if it was up to you it wouldn't be.
Socialism is a human response to a human need; laissez-faire capitalism, your preference, is pure greed and selfishness. Economic Darwinism, otherwise known as supply-side fraud, is the Law of the Jungle in disguise, tilting the rules to ensure the survival of those already the beneficiaries of unearned advantages and perks, hoarders of that which is only theirs through sheer circumstance and coincidence. You think you deserve your wealth due to your innate superiority, but the truth is your wealth was handed to you on a silver platter, and much of it should be redistributed to those less fortunate, whether you like it or not.
Whoa yourself. The "welfare state" is the only thing saving many people from from abject proverty and destitution. The problem is there is only just enough welfare for that, but not enough to lift them OUT of subsistence-level poverty and into middle-class prosperity...for that is needed training/education and other support---housing, food, day care, health care, etc.
In other words, much MORE welfare is needed, not less, and fat cats like you need to pay for it.
Great Katie Hopkins:::: about how the welfare state fucks us all:::
[youtube.com]
Storm1752 comments on Jun 21, 2020:
I dunno, it's a been great for me...I get food assistance and SSI, which (as a handicapped person who'd be homeless living in a cardboard box otherwise) I really appreciate.
Why don't you talk to your super-rich elitist masters about slashing the military budget a few hundred billion, and paying ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 22, 2020:
@Rich177 It means nothing of the sort, fool. It means I was self-employed, maybe; I don't know if it even means THAT. I worked a lot harder than YOU, that much I guarantee.
You're a typical pointy-headed Ayn Rand-style Objectivist, who has a severely twisted idea of what government assistance is, and is all about.
I hope your rich friends are there for you if things go wrong and the chips are down...I'm sure they'd all pass the hat around and get you back on your feet, 'cause in your universe the government wouldn't be there. In MINE, the government should offer many MORE services and the reason it doesn't is because of people like you. You make the world a crueler, harder place than it needs to be, no doubt.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 21, 2020:
I dunno, it's a been great for me...I get food assistance and SSI, which (as a handicapped person who'd be homeless living in a cardboard box otherwise) I really appreciate.
Why don't you talk to your super-rich elitist masters about slashing the military budget a few hundred billion, and paying ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 22, 2020:
@Rich177 It means nothing of the sort, fool. It means I was self-employed, maybe; I don't know if it even means THAT. I worked a lot harder than YOU, that much I guarantee.
You're a typical pointy-headed Ayn Rand-style Objectivist, who has a severely twisted idea of what government assistance is, and is all about.
I hope your rich friends are there for you if things go wrong and the chips are down...I'm sure they'd all pass the hat around and get you back on your feet, 'cause in your universe the government wouldn't be there. In MINE, the government should offer many MORE services and the reason it doesn't is because of people like you. You make the world a crueler, harder place than it needs to be, no doubt.
Looking up some other background info, I came across this.
Varn comments on Jun 20, 2020:
If the US election of 2020 becomes a race for perfection, there will be no winners. If Biden loses - so will our nation and planet ~
Storm1752 replies on Jun 22, 2020:
@WilliamCharles Aww...poor baby...the system's not perfect (far from it) and Wonderful Joe will carry the day. He's right on just about every issue and will be a great president. Go cry about it some place else.
Oh and because of the virus more Democrats and Independents will be voting via absentee ballots than ever before. In fact mail-in ballots may be here to stay, ushering in a new era of Democratic dominance!
Varn comments on Jun 20, 2020:
If the US election of 2020 becomes a race for perfection, there will be no winners. If Biden loses - so will our nation and planet ~
Storm1752 replies on Jun 22, 2020:
@WilliamCharles Aww...poor baby...the system's not perfect (far from it) and Wonderful Joe will carry the day. He's right on just about every issue and will be a great president. Go cry about it some place else.
Oh and because of the virus more Democrats and Independents will be voting via absentee ballots than ever before. In fact mail-in ballots may be here to stay, ushering in a new era of Democratic dominance!
Looking up some other background info, I came across this.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 20, 2020:
I just hope he stays "sheltered in place" and doesn't give too many speeches. Hopefully Trump will continue to implode and shoot himself in his two left feet, and Biden won't have to do much, other than NOT. BE. TRUMP!
I love Joe myself, lying warts and all.
Storm1752 replies on Jun 22, 2020:
@WilliamCharles Nope. Sorry. Despite your deluded wishes even poor senile Joe Biden can't blow this one. Trump is just that bad.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 20, 2020:
I just hope he stays "sheltered in place" and doesn't give too many speeches. Hopefully Trump will continue to implode and shoot himself in his two left feet, and Biden won't have to do much, other than NOT. BE. TRUMP!
I love Joe myself, lying warts and all.
Storm1752 replies on Jun 22, 2020:
@WilliamCharles Nope. Sorry. Despite your deluded wishes even poor senile Joe Biden can't blow this one. Trump is just that bad.
I am bumfuzzled by trump's Tulsa rally.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 20, 2020:
Trump is not unique, of course. ALL Republican candidates benefit from a hard core 40% support before they even get out of bed in the morning. You have to be worse than incompetent and inept to lose an election if you toe the line spewed forth by the "vast right-wing conspiracy," as Hillary so ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 22, 2020:
@AnneWimsey No, apparently he's worse than incompetent and inept. He's an egotistical retard. Even deluded Pubs can see that.
But he'll STILL get 40%, mark my words.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 20, 2020:
Trump is not unique, of course. ALL Republican candidates benefit from a hard core 40% support before they even get out of bed in the morning. You have to be worse than incompetent and inept to lose an election if you toe the line spewed forth by the "vast right-wing conspiracy," as Hillary so ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 22, 2020:
@AnneWimsey No, apparently he's worse than incompetent and inept. He's an egotistical retard. Even deluded Pubs can see that.
But he'll STILL get 40%, mark my words.
Biden's ads say, "We're fighting for the soul of this nation" It certainly fits with the darkness ...
Storm1752 comments on Jun 21, 2020:
You are such a phony troll, a hypocrite all full of fake outrage. What I don't understand is your motivation. Why do you bother? What do you hope to accomplish? I'm voting for good 'ol Joe, he's my man, if Joe can't do it, nobody can!
You mean boiling FETUSES, btw? Fetuses are not babies, as any ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 22, 2020:
@WilliamCharles Well, he's NOT going to drop out, as you well know. Why should he? He's ahead by 12 points. Yes, he's made some mistakes and is not perfect. I assume after he quits you want him to throw his support behind Bernie Sanders, right?
Keep dreaming.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 21, 2020:
You are such a phony troll, a hypocrite all full of fake outrage. What I don't understand is your motivation. Why do you bother? What do you hope to accomplish? I'm voting for good 'ol Joe, he's my man, if Joe can't do it, nobody can!
You mean boiling FETUSES, btw? Fetuses are not babies, as any ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 22, 2020:
@WilliamCharles Well, he's NOT going to drop out, as you well know. Why should he? He's ahead by 12 points. Yes, he's made some mistakes and is not perfect. I assume after he quits you want him to throw his support behind Bernie Sanders, right?
Keep dreaming.
Who will you vote for in the 2020 election?
RoboGraham comments on Jun 19, 2020:
My choice isn't represented
Storm1752 replies on Jun 21, 2020:
@starwatcher-al He's lying, I think.
RoboGraham comments on Jun 19, 2020:
My choice isn't represented
Storm1752 replies on Jun 21, 2020:
@starwatcher-al He's lying, I think.
Who will you vote for in the 2020 election?
Charlene comments on Jun 19, 2020:
I'm voting Blue down ticket..Fuck Drump and Biden..they're the same coin..
Storm1752 replies on Jun 21, 2020:
@Charlene He's a progressive liberal circa 2020.. So he lies a little; so did Clinton.
What, you don't ever lie? No? I don't believe you.
Charlene comments on Jun 19, 2020:
I'm voting Blue down ticket..Fuck Drump and Biden..they're the same coin..
Storm1752 replies on Jun 21, 2020:
@Charlene He's a progressive liberal circa 2020.. So he lies a little; so did Clinton.
What, you don't ever lie? No? I don't believe you.
Who will you vote for in the 2020 election?
WilliamFleming comments on Jun 19, 2020:
Jo Jorgensen
Storm1752 replies on Jun 21, 2020:
Who?
WilliamFleming comments on Jun 19, 2020:
Jo Jorgensen
Storm1752 replies on Jun 21, 2020:
Who?
Who will you vote for in the 2020 election?
powder comments on Jun 19, 2020:
Biden described as "sanity and integrity"? Only when compared to Trump which places the bar fairly low, like anyone appears sane with integrity when compared with Trump. Excepting perhaps HRC.
Plus a very important question; who is Joe's running mate? That will make a difference.
Storm1752 replies on Jun 21, 2020:
I'm hoping his running mate is Megan Fox.
powder comments on Jun 19, 2020:
Biden described as "sanity and integrity"? Only when compared to Trump which places the bar fairly low, like anyone appears sane with integrity when compared with Trump. Excepting perhaps HRC.
Plus a very important question; who is Joe's running mate? That will make a difference.
Storm1752 replies on Jun 21, 2020:
I'm hoping his running mate is Megan Fox.
Apparently Biden is now considering two x-cops of color for the VP spot.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 20, 2020:
Catchy simplistic BS, Earl.
Storm1752 replies on Jun 21, 2020:
@EdEarl Especially you, and (to my knowledge) you're not even running for anything.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 20, 2020:
Catchy simplistic BS, Earl.
Storm1752 replies on Jun 21, 2020:
@EdEarl Especially you, and (to my knowledge) you're not even running for anything.
Looking up some other background info, I came across this.
Varn comments on Jun 20, 2020:
If the US election of 2020 becomes a race for perfection, there will be no winners. If Biden loses - so will our nation and planet ~
Storm1752 replies on Jun 20, 2020:
@WilliamCharles I know you HOPE what you're saying is true, but my sense is, Trump cannot possibly win. It's like Obama after the 2008 Great Recession and the Iraq War: the Republican president screwed up so badly all Barak REALLY had to do was smile a lot, sound smart, and not be a Republican.
Varn comments on Jun 20, 2020:
If the US election of 2020 becomes a race for perfection, there will be no winners. If Biden loses - so will our nation and planet ~
Storm1752 replies on Jun 20, 2020:
@WilliamCharles I know you HOPE what you're saying is true, but my sense is, Trump cannot possibly win. It's like Obama after the 2008 Great Recession and the Iraq War: the Republican president screwed up so badly all Barak REALLY had to do was smile a lot, sound smart, and not be a Republican.
How can people blame Trump for this countries ills.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 15, 2020:
Typical rant
Storm1752 replies on Jun 17, 2020:
@Cutiebeauty Right.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 15, 2020:
Typical rant
Storm1752 replies on Jun 17, 2020:
@Cutiebeauty Right.
Maybe this time real and lasting change will take place.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 7, 2020:
OMG!!!
Hope they're happy.
Are you KIDDING me?!?
If they ever "defund" MY town's police department and go with "community-based" law enforcement, I'm moving!
Storm1752 replies on Jun 10, 2020:
@Rodatheist I doubt they all want to disband police departments. That's insane, in my opinion.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 7, 2020:
OMG!!!
Hope they're happy.
Are you KIDDING me?!?
If they ever "defund" MY town's police department and go with "community-based" law enforcement, I'm moving!
Storm1752 replies on Jun 10, 2020:
@Rodatheist I doubt they all want to disband police departments. That's insane, in my opinion.
2 truths and 31 lies Joe Biden has told about his work in the Civil Rights Movement
Since the ...
Storm1752 comments on Jun 9, 2020:
I'm still voting for him.
Storm1752 replies on Jun 10, 2020:
@WilliamCharles I get it, but overall Biden is extremely preferable...look at it this way: if he thinks civil rights activism such a desirable pursuit, it does say something about his values, and his sensitivity to the issue.
Anyway, a far better choice overall, in my opinion.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 9, 2020:
I'm still voting for him.
Storm1752 replies on Jun 10, 2020:
@WilliamCharles I get it, but overall Biden is extremely preferable...look at it this way: if he thinks civil rights activism such a desirable pursuit, it does say something about his values, and his sensitivity to the issue.
Anyway, a far better choice overall, in my opinion.
Maybe this time real and lasting change will take place.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 7, 2020:
OMG!!!
Hope they're happy.
Are you KIDDING me?!?
If they ever "defund" MY town's police department and go with "community-based" law enforcement, I'm moving!
Storm1752 replies on Jun 8, 2020:
@Rodatheist Both.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 7, 2020:
OMG!!!
Hope they're happy.
Are you KIDDING me?!?
If they ever "defund" MY town's police department and go with "community-based" law enforcement, I'm moving!
Storm1752 replies on Jun 8, 2020:
@Rodatheist Both.
One of the funniest thingsI have ever read.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 7, 2020:
Why not ice in a plastic bag???
Storm1752 replies on Jun 7, 2020:
@Lauren Ah...
Storm1752 comments on Jun 7, 2020:
Why not ice in a plastic bag???
Storm1752 replies on Jun 7, 2020:
@Lauren Ah...
This may help I know him he is bright and thoughtful
Fred_Snerd comments on Jun 7, 2020:
Did you know that Biden has been telling bald faced lies all his life?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKCJ45QMyLU
"But political experts and education policy researchers say Biden, a supporter of civil rights in other arenas, did not simply compromise with segregationists — he also led the ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 7, 2020:
Emphasize "a supporter of civil rights in other arenas." Read, all.
Busing was a very contentious issue in 1965. Biden thought the real solution was improving ALL schools. That was beginning to happen up until about 1980, when Republicans began obstructing ANY progress.
Biden has supported civil rights consistently throughout his career (fair housing, hiring, voting, etc.) and is endorsed by the Congressional Black Caucus.
Fred, you're dead wrong...again.
Fred_Snerd comments on Jun 7, 2020:
Did you know that Biden has been telling bald faced lies all his life?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKCJ45QMyLU
"But political experts and education policy researchers say Biden, a supporter of civil rights in other arenas, did not simply compromise with segregationists — he also led the ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 7, 2020:
Emphasize "a supporter of civil rights in other arenas." Read, all.
Busing was a very contentious issue in 1965. Biden thought the real solution was improving ALL schools. That was beginning to happen up until about 1980, when Republicans began obstructing ANY progress.
Biden has supported civil rights consistently throughout his career (fair housing, hiring, voting, etc.) and is endorsed by the Congressional Black Caucus.
Fred, you're dead wrong...again.
From Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy ([rep.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Of course there is SOME evidence of SOME kind of 'god,' but it is not conclusive or definitive. So as an agnostic I cannot state FOR MYSELF there is definitely a 'god.'
I'm atheist of a PERSONAL ENTITY, but agnostic about 'god' as an impersonal force, so the general proposition is still pending ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 7, 2020:
@redbai Very true; I have only inclinations there's SOMETHING which might be defined as 'god' by someone who had a very loose and liberal definition of the word.
Atheists insist on a strict definition; that is, a personal god in the Abrahamic sense. In THAT sense I'M an atheist...in the more liberal sense I'm agnostic, or in some ways IGnostic.
Hey, whatever butters your bread, man.
Peace out.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Of course there is SOME evidence of SOME kind of 'god,' but it is not conclusive or definitive. So as an agnostic I cannot state FOR MYSELF there is definitely a 'god.'
I'm atheist of a PERSONAL ENTITY, but agnostic about 'god' as an impersonal force, so the general proposition is still pending ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 7, 2020:
@redbai Very true; I have only inclinations there's SOMETHING which might be defined as 'god' by someone who had a very loose and liberal definition of the word.
Atheists insist on a strict definition; that is, a personal god in the Abrahamic sense. In THAT sense I'M an atheist...in the more liberal sense I'm agnostic, or in some ways IGnostic.
Hey, whatever butters your bread, man.
Peace out.
From Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy ([rep.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Of course there is SOME evidence of SOME kind of 'god,' but it is not conclusive or definitive. So as an agnostic I cannot state FOR MYSELF there is definitely a 'god.'
I'm atheist of a PERSONAL ENTITY, but agnostic about 'god' as an impersonal force, so the general proposition is still pending ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 5, 2020:
@redbai Look up, if you wish, University of Virginia, Dr. Tucker -- or Dr. Stevenson -- reincarnation.
I'm not saying reincarnation is "proof" of god, but it's circumstantial evidence of SOMETHING beyond the five senses.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Of course there is SOME evidence of SOME kind of 'god,' but it is not conclusive or definitive. So as an agnostic I cannot state FOR MYSELF there is definitely a 'god.'
I'm atheist of a PERSONAL ENTITY, but agnostic about 'god' as an impersonal force, so the general proposition is still pending ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 5, 2020:
@redbai Look up, if you wish, University of Virginia, Dr. Tucker -- or Dr. Stevenson -- reincarnation.
I'm not saying reincarnation is "proof" of god, but it's circumstantial evidence of SOMETHING beyond the five senses.
From Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy ([rep.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Of course there is SOME evidence of SOME kind of 'god,' but it is not conclusive or definitive. So as an agnostic I cannot state FOR MYSELF there is definitely a 'god.'
I'm atheist of a PERSONAL ENTITY, but agnostic about 'god' as an impersonal force, so the general proposition is still pending ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 2, 2020:
@redbai So if it is YOUR eye beholding it ...oh, never mind. I already answered you and my sense of humour is failing me. Besides, you sound annoyed and, like me, not in the mood for lighthearted banter.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Of course there is SOME evidence of SOME kind of 'god,' but it is not conclusive or definitive. So as an agnostic I cannot state FOR MYSELF there is definitely a 'god.'
I'm atheist of a PERSONAL ENTITY, but agnostic about 'god' as an impersonal force, so the general proposition is still pending ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 2, 2020:
@redbai So if it is YOUR eye beholding it ...oh, never mind. I already answered you and my sense of humour is failing me. Besides, you sound annoyed and, like me, not in the mood for lighthearted banter.
From Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy ([rep.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Of course there is SOME evidence of SOME kind of 'god,' but it is not conclusive or definitive. So as an agnostic I cannot state FOR MYSELF there is definitely a 'god.'
I'm atheist of a PERSONAL ENTITY, but agnostic about 'god' as an impersonal force, so the general proposition is still pending ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 2, 2020:
@redbai Yes, it IS subjective. What YOU consider evidence, I may not, and vice versa. That:s the nature of circumstantial evidence. It depends on your personal bias whether you want to accept it. If there is ENOUGH circumstantial evidence, if it piles up, then it becomes harder and harder to dismiss it "beyond a reasonable doubt."
If one is absolutely convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt there is no 'god,' personal or impersonal, no amount of circumstantial and/or anecdotal evidence would convince one to reconsider. That's might be a 'hard' atheist. An AGNOSTIC, however, might at least be swayed to amend his or her opinion, though understanding short of conclusive, definitive proof (which would in all likelihood be hard or impossible to obtain at this stage in mankind's development), a final conviction is ultimately impossible. So the agnostic, unlike the 'hard' atheist, will never be able to be absolutely sure.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Of course there is SOME evidence of SOME kind of 'god,' but it is not conclusive or definitive. So as an agnostic I cannot state FOR MYSELF there is definitely a 'god.'
I'm atheist of a PERSONAL ENTITY, but agnostic about 'god' as an impersonal force, so the general proposition is still pending ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 2, 2020:
@redbai Yes, it IS subjective. What YOU consider evidence, I may not, and vice versa. That:s the nature of circumstantial evidence. It depends on your personal bias whether you want to accept it. If there is ENOUGH circumstantial evidence, if it piles up, then it becomes harder and harder to dismiss it "beyond a reasonable doubt."
If one is absolutely convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt there is no 'god,' personal or impersonal, no amount of circumstantial and/or anecdotal evidence would convince one to reconsider. That's might be a 'hard' atheist. An AGNOSTIC, however, might at least be swayed to amend his or her opinion, though understanding short of conclusive, definitive proof (which would in all likelihood be hard or impossible to obtain at this stage in mankind's development), a final conviction is ultimately impossible. So the agnostic, unlike the 'hard' atheist, will never be able to be absolutely sure.
The demonstrations/riots SEEM like they're against Trump.
barjoe comments on Jun 1, 2020:
The riots, arson and looting are helping Trump and gaining sympathy for the police department. As far as the protesters, the peaceful protesters, they're Anti-Trump.The looters don't care about anything but stealing and getting away with it. They might not know who George Floyd is. They truly don't ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 1, 2020:
I couldn't disagree more they're helping Trump! How in the world do you come to THAT conclusion?!?
barjoe comments on Jun 1, 2020:
The riots, arson and looting are helping Trump and gaining sympathy for the police department. As far as the protesters, the peaceful protesters, they're Anti-Trump.The looters don't care about anything but stealing and getting away with it. They might not know who George Floyd is. They truly don't ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 1, 2020:
I couldn't disagree more they're helping Trump! How in the world do you come to THAT conclusion?!?
From Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy ([rep.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Of course there is SOME evidence of SOME kind of 'god,' but it is not conclusive or definitive. So as an agnostic I cannot state FOR MYSELF there is definitely a 'god.'
I'm atheist of a PERSONAL ENTITY, but agnostic about 'god' as an impersonal force, so the general proposition is still pending ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 1, 2020:
@redbai What was your question again?
Storm1752 comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Of course there is SOME evidence of SOME kind of 'god,' but it is not conclusive or definitive. So as an agnostic I cannot state FOR MYSELF there is definitely a 'god.'
I'm atheist of a PERSONAL ENTITY, but agnostic about 'god' as an impersonal force, so the general proposition is still pending ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 1, 2020:
@redbai What was your question again?
From Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy ([rep.
Storm1752 comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Of course there is SOME evidence of SOME kind of 'god,' but it is not conclusive or definitive. So as an agnostic I cannot state FOR MYSELF there is definitely a 'god.'
I'm atheist of a PERSONAL ENTITY, but agnostic about 'god' as an impersonal force, so the general proposition is still pending ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 1, 2020:
@redbai In the eye of the beholder. Depends on your point of view, biases, open-minded or close-mindedness, what you consider "evidence," what you consider 'god,' (ie., your definition), and so on.
At times, I consider myself an Ignostic, an Agnostic, an Agnostic Neo-Deist, at still other times an Agnostic Pantheist, so my definition changes, OR I think the whole subject is so beyond human comprehension it's futile and pointless to even talk about it.
I'm 100% Atheist when it comes to a personal 'god' with whom I can have a relationship, however; that's logically, deductively impossible.
Equally impossible is being an "agnostic atheist," in my view, but I've long since lost any hope of convincing others of that
Storm1752 comments on Jun 1, 2020:
Of course there is SOME evidence of SOME kind of 'god,' but it is not conclusive or definitive. So as an agnostic I cannot state FOR MYSELF there is definitely a 'god.'
I'm atheist of a PERSONAL ENTITY, but agnostic about 'god' as an impersonal force, so the general proposition is still pending ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 1, 2020:
@redbai In the eye of the beholder. Depends on your point of view, biases, open-minded or close-mindedness, what you consider "evidence," what you consider 'god,' (ie., your definition), and so on.
At times, I consider myself an Ignostic, an Agnostic, an Agnostic Neo-Deist, at still other times an Agnostic Pantheist, so my definition changes, OR I think the whole subject is so beyond human comprehension it's futile and pointless to even talk about it.
I'm 100% Atheist when it comes to a personal 'god' with whom I can have a relationship, however; that's logically, deductively impossible.
Equally impossible is being an "agnostic atheist," in my view, but I've long since lost any hope of convincing others of that
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JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2020:
I refuse to pound the drum of conspiracy. besides, even if true it just further proves the dismal state of chaos our country is in and has been for some time. any sense of true egalitarianism is long past gone for much of the public.
Storm1752 replies on Jun 1, 2020:
I disagree.
JeffMesser comments on May 31, 2020:
I refuse to pound the drum of conspiracy. besides, even if true it just further proves the dismal state of chaos our country is in and has been for some time. any sense of true egalitarianism is long past gone for much of the public.
Storm1752 replies on Jun 1, 2020:
I disagree.
From Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy ([rep.
RussRAB comments on May 31, 2020:
I am curious if the definition of agnostic excludes those who believe that certain Gods do not exist. I identify myself as an agnostic but I disbelieve in certain Gods such as the God of the Bible. This God is contradictary and far to much like a projection of humans. At the same time, I don't rule ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 1, 2020:
BINGO!!!
YOU WIN A CUPIE DOLL!!!
E=MC√ might be 'god' for all we know!
RussRAB comments on May 31, 2020:
I am curious if the definition of agnostic excludes those who believe that certain Gods do not exist. I identify myself as an agnostic but I disbelieve in certain Gods such as the God of the Bible. This God is contradictary and far to much like a projection of humans. At the same time, I don't rule ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 1, 2020:
BINGO!!!
YOU WIN A CUPIE DOLL!!!
E=MC√ might be 'god' for all we know!
From Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy ([rep.
JohnnyQB comments on Jun 1, 2020:
NEWSFLASH::: This just in.....
The Agnostic stronghold in the east has been overthrown by the Atheist forces from the west in the ongoing battle for term usage supremacy. Meanwhile.... as this battle rages on. Theist forces have moved down from the north and overtaken reason and rationale. ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 1, 2020:
Wow. Sounds like Lord of the Rings!
JohnnyQB comments on Jun 1, 2020:
NEWSFLASH::: This just in.....
The Agnostic stronghold in the east has been overthrown by the Atheist forces from the west in the ongoing battle for term usage supremacy. Meanwhile.... as this battle rages on. Theist forces have moved down from the north and overtaken reason and rationale. ...
Storm1752 replies on Jun 1, 2020:
Wow. Sounds like Lord of the Rings!
There are people protesting police brutality in cities across the nation and the police respond with...
Storm1752 comments on May 31, 2020:
It's not 'brutality;' they're just doing their job under extraordinarily brutal conditions.
Yes there are obviously instances they cross the line and we know about a small fraction of those cases. But managing crowd control during street demonstrations and especially full-blown riots is another ...
Storm1752 replies on May 31, 2020:
@RoboGraham B.S.!!!
YOU go out there and try law enforcement in East L.A. or Harlem or some other inner city and then come talk to me. Are you freaking kidding me? What do you really know about it?
You're obviously anti-authoritarian, which is cool, but except for blatantly cut-and-dried situations, there are usually all kinds of factors to consider...cops have an EXTREMELY tough job. Do you have ANY IDEA what things would be like without them? Society could not function.
Look what happened when they gave the 'protesters' some slack; it's lucky they didn't burn the whole city down. Would that have made you happy?
All this SHOULD go without saying, but some people, I guess, have daddy issues.
Storm1752 comments on May 31, 2020:
It's not 'brutality;' they're just doing their job under extraordinarily brutal conditions.
Yes there are obviously instances they cross the line and we know about a small fraction of those cases. But managing crowd control during street demonstrations and especially full-blown riots is another ...
Storm1752 replies on May 31, 2020:
@RoboGraham B.S.!!!
YOU go out there and try law enforcement in East L.A. or Harlem or some other inner city and then come talk to me. Are you freaking kidding me? What do you really know about it?
You're obviously anti-authoritarian, which is cool, but except for blatantly cut-and-dried situations, there are usually all kinds of factors to consider...cops have an EXTREMELY tough job. Do you have ANY IDEA what things would be like without them? Society could not function.
Look what happened when they gave the 'protesters' some slack; it's lucky they didn't burn the whole city down. Would that have made you happy?
All this SHOULD go without saying, but some people, I guess, have daddy issues.
Why we're angry - [johnpavlovitz.com]
Fred_Snerd comments on May 30, 2020:
Well, there's an ambitious preacher.
"I’m angry that you ignored Hillary Clinton’s experience, intelligence, and character"
I had no choice but to vote for the wretch.
Storm1752 replies on May 30, 2020:
Fred just be...you're embarrassing yourself.
Fred_Snerd comments on May 30, 2020:
Well, there's an ambitious preacher.
"I’m angry that you ignored Hillary Clinton’s experience, intelligence, and character"
I had no choice but to vote for the wretch.
Storm1752 replies on May 30, 2020:
Fred just be...you're embarrassing yourself.
I accepted the job I applied for as an adoptions specialist today!!! All on my own! No glory to God ...
Storm1752 comments on May 28, 2020:
Congratulations, but you DO realize you'll be surrounded by rabid 'right-to-lifers' all day, every day, for the duration, don't you?
Just checking...
Storm1752 replies on May 29, 2020:
@1EarthLovingGal Let me/us know I'm very curious!
Storm1752 comments on May 28, 2020:
Congratulations, but you DO realize you'll be surrounded by rabid 'right-to-lifers' all day, every day, for the duration, don't you?
Just checking...
Storm1752 replies on May 29, 2020:
@1EarthLovingGal Let me/us know I'm very curious!
The Republican leaders exist solely to support the elite and dumb down the citizens.
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
No too many care you dropped out.
I just hope there aren't too many of you or we really ARE screwed.
Good luck to you. I'm sure you have a great life.
Storm1752 replies on May 29, 2020:
@Fred_Snerd Yeah right.
Like I said, have a good life.
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
No too many care you dropped out.
I just hope there aren't too many of you or we really ARE screwed.
Good luck to you. I'm sure you have a great life.
Storm1752 replies on May 29, 2020:
@Fred_Snerd Yeah right.
Like I said, have a good life.
The Republican leaders exist solely to support the elite and dumb down the citizens.
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
No too many care you dropped out.
I just hope there aren't too many of you or we really ARE screwed.
Good luck to you. I'm sure you have a great life.
Storm1752 replies on May 28, 2020:
@Fred_Snerd If you vote for a minor party it is the same thing as not voting.
Sorry but, given our screwed up two-party system, it's true.
And is name-calling necessary? I wouldn't call YOU arrogant. I admire you. It's just on THIS particular point you're DEAD WRONG.
In my opinion.
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
No too many care you dropped out.
I just hope there aren't too many of you or we really ARE screwed.
Good luck to you. I'm sure you have a great life.
Storm1752 replies on May 28, 2020:
@Fred_Snerd If you vote for a minor party it is the same thing as not voting.
Sorry but, given our screwed up two-party system, it's true.
And is name-calling necessary? I wouldn't call YOU arrogant. I admire you. It's just on THIS particular point you're DEAD WRONG.
In my opinion.
This is how the idiot got elected, and how he will again.
Storm1752 comments on May 25, 2020:
Not voting Democratic (liberal/progressive) because they're not perfect is a big mistake. It only drives the party further and further rightward in a desperate attempt to attract those who DO vote.
I really question how many people on here vote anyway. They bluster and complain but when it comes to...
Storm1752 replies on May 28, 2020:
@AmyLF Some of these people are beyond me. They say the two parties have in recent years melded together and are now the Corporate Party. No difference between the two. That is so untrue and unfair it just stuns me anybody could say that. Not to get too into the weeds because it sounds like we're in complete agreement, but it makes me wonder about their sanity, veracity, motives, and goals. Are they deluded, trolls, stealth Republicans, or just SO far out in the boondocks of the political spectrum they've lost all perspective.
The problem is, not ENOUGH leftists, socialists, progressives, and even moderates VOTE and so are themselves in large part to blame for the gross distortions we see.
Blame 'Citizens United' all you want for the obscene amount of money in campaigns. Certainly warranted.
But that's no excuse to unilaterally disarm and give up!
I think of years from now when the 'Baby Boomers' (hate that label) die off along with many of the values they, WE, espouse, and fear the U.S. will be left with generations to come of propagandized, indoctrinated, brainwashed upcomers who might be prey to the nascient theocratic oligarchy looming it's ugly head.
Our time may be rapidly fading.
I hope I'm wrong.
Storm1752 comments on May 25, 2020:
Not voting Democratic (liberal/progressive) because they're not perfect is a big mistake. It only drives the party further and further rightward in a desperate attempt to attract those who DO vote.
I really question how many people on here vote anyway. They bluster and complain but when it comes to...
Storm1752 replies on May 28, 2020:
@AmyLF Some of these people are beyond me. They say the two parties have in recent years melded together and are now the Corporate Party. No difference between the two. That is so untrue and unfair it just stuns me anybody could say that. Not to get too into the weeds because it sounds like we're in complete agreement, but it makes me wonder about their sanity, veracity, motives, and goals. Are they deluded, trolls, stealth Republicans, or just SO far out in the boondocks of the political spectrum they've lost all perspective.
The problem is, not ENOUGH leftists, socialists, progressives, and even moderates VOTE and so are themselves in large part to blame for the gross distortions we see.
Blame 'Citizens United' all you want for the obscene amount of money in campaigns. Certainly warranted.
But that's no excuse to unilaterally disarm and give up!
I think of years from now when the 'Baby Boomers' (hate that label) die off along with many of the values they, WE, espouse, and fear the U.S. will be left with generations to come of propagandized, indoctrinated, brainwashed upcomers who might be prey to the nascient theocratic oligarchy looming it's ugly head.
Our time may be rapidly fading.
I hope I'm wrong.
The Republican leaders exist solely to support the elite and dumb down the citizens.
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
No too many care you dropped out.
I just hope there aren't too many of you or we really ARE screwed.
Good luck to you. I'm sure you have a great life.
Storm1752 replies on May 28, 2020:
@Fred_Snerd Oh, that...heh, heh...
Oh you know Fred, just a difference of opinion!😊We're all adults here...
I just I just thought if a LOT of liberals, progressives, radical anarchists, communists and socialists (to name a few) didn't vote, then PROBABLY relatively MORE conservatives, right-wingers, gun nuts, anti-abortionists, Ayn Rand Objectivists, oligarch toadies, etc., etc., WOULD get elected, which I personally think would be a bad thing.
I know, I know, there's no difference in the U.S. between the 'liberal' party and the 'conservative' party, but darn it, I can't help selling out anyway. Nobody's paying me anything, me living a 'counterculture-ish' and reclusive life in a remote cabin in North Florida, but I MUST be because I DO vote. Just not purist enough, I guess, to understand how not doing so is in any way helpful.
Well, thanks to you and people like you taking your heroic stand, the majority Republicans (who are really the minority except for all the brainwashing) will hopefully eventually enslave us to the point armed rebellion and/or civil war will break out.
Hey, COULD happen...THEN 'we' will take over and everything will be great.
Thanks again.
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
No too many care you dropped out.
I just hope there aren't too many of you or we really ARE screwed.
Good luck to you. I'm sure you have a great life.
Storm1752 replies on May 28, 2020:
@Fred_Snerd Oh, that...heh, heh...
Oh you know Fred, just a difference of opinion!😊We're all adults here...
I just I just thought if a LOT of liberals, progressives, radical anarchists, communists and socialists (to name a few) didn't vote, then PROBABLY relatively MORE conservatives, right-wingers, gun nuts, anti-abortionists, Ayn Rand Objectivists, oligarch toadies, etc., etc., WOULD get elected, which I personally think would be a bad thing.
I know, I know, there's no difference in the U.S. between the 'liberal' party and the 'conservative' party, but darn it, I can't help selling out anyway. Nobody's paying me anything, me living a 'counterculture-ish' and reclusive life in a remote cabin in North Florida, but I MUST be because I DO vote. Just not purist enough, I guess, to understand how not doing so is in any way helpful.
Well, thanks to you and people like you taking your heroic stand, the majority Republicans (who are really the minority except for all the brainwashing) will hopefully eventually enslave us to the point armed rebellion and/or civil war will break out.
Hey, COULD happen...THEN 'we' will take over and everything will be great.
Thanks again.
The Republican leaders exist solely to support the elite and dumb down the citizens.
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
No too many care you dropped out.
I just hope there aren't too many of you or we really ARE screwed.
Good luck to you. I'm sure you have a great life.
Storm1752 replies on May 27, 2020:
@Fred_Snerd Ouch.
I was trying to be nice...
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
No too many care you dropped out.
I just hope there aren't too many of you or we really ARE screwed.
Good luck to you. I'm sure you have a great life.
Storm1752 replies on May 27, 2020:
@Fred_Snerd Ouch.
I was trying to be nice...
Is homosexuality a choice?
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
Is homosexuality a choice?
Well I've participated in homosexual acts from time to time, enjoyed it, feel great about it, don't regret it in the slightest.
I consider myself straight with bisexual feelings, but who knows? Who cares? If the situation was right I'd do it and enjoy it again, but if it...
Storm1752 replies on May 27, 2020:
@tinkercreek Wasn't that an Old Testament thing? Jews made up (a lot) more rules...distilled into a bogus '10 Commandments...!'
(Incidentally, is that one commandment telling both the man AND the woman to not covet the neighbor's wife?!)
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
Is homosexuality a choice?
Well I've participated in homosexual acts from time to time, enjoyed it, feel great about it, don't regret it in the slightest.
I consider myself straight with bisexual feelings, but who knows? Who cares? If the situation was right I'd do it and enjoy it again, but if it...
Storm1752 replies on May 27, 2020:
@tinkercreek Wasn't that an Old Testament thing? Jews made up (a lot) more rules...distilled into a bogus '10 Commandments...!'
(Incidentally, is that one commandment telling both the man AND the woman to not covet the neighbor's wife?!)
Hello Everyone,
If someone was without enough food or support and did not have enough money to ...
Storm1752 comments on May 25, 2020:
I think it's perfectly acceptable and in her case a very good idea. An abortion of an unwanted fetus is an excellent option.
It hasn't been born! It doesn't even know it exists! Do YOU remember being in the womb? Of. course not.
In my opinion, it's no different than aborting a monkey fetus, or a ...
Storm1752 replies on May 27, 2020:
@demifeministgal Canadians are beneficiaries of a parliamentary system wherein power is more diffused and coalitions are very often required to assemble a governing majority. Much better. Compromise is absolutely mandatory and alliances are fluid and ever-changing.
Because Canadians are better represented and therefore treated, they are much nicer, saner people!😊
So, nothing 'genius' about our static, ossified, moribund and increasingly corrupt emerging theocratic oligarchy!
Luckily, Republicans haven't yet and may never mastermind a permanent majority, and keep messing up because their phony ideology keeps running into reality, so there's hope.
Storm1752 comments on May 25, 2020:
I think it's perfectly acceptable and in her case a very good idea. An abortion of an unwanted fetus is an excellent option.
It hasn't been born! It doesn't even know it exists! Do YOU remember being in the womb? Of. course not.
In my opinion, it's no different than aborting a monkey fetus, or a ...
Storm1752 replies on May 27, 2020:
@demifeministgal Canadians are beneficiaries of a parliamentary system wherein power is more diffused and coalitions are very often required to assemble a governing majority. Much better. Compromise is absolutely mandatory and alliances are fluid and ever-changing.
Because Canadians are better represented and therefore treated, they are much nicer, saner people!😊
So, nothing 'genius' about our static, ossified, moribund and increasingly corrupt emerging theocratic oligarchy!
Luckily, Republicans haven't yet and may never mastermind a permanent majority, and keep messing up because their phony ideology keeps running into reality, so there's hope.
💦 Good morning all.. It's shower time. Woohoo!
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
What's that tattoo on her (long, shapely) leg?? I even zoomed it in and it's still obscure. Don't get me wrong, it works. I'd just like to know what it is.
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
@Cutiebeauty, @Merseyman1 Thanks! What a strange thing to ink on to your leg!
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
What's that tattoo on her (long, shapely) leg?? I even zoomed it in and it's still obscure. Don't get me wrong, it works. I'd just like to know what it is.
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
@Cutiebeauty, @Merseyman1 Thanks! What a strange thing to ink on to your leg!
💦 Good morning all.. It's shower time. Woohoo!
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
What's that tattoo on her (long, shapely) leg?? I even zoomed it in and it's still obscure. Don't get me wrong, it works. I'd just like to know what it is.
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
@Cutiebeauty Yes why don't you? While you're at it maybe you could ask her for a date!
Storm1752 comments on May 26, 2020:
What's that tattoo on her (long, shapely) leg?? I even zoomed it in and it's still obscure. Don't get me wrong, it works. I'd just like to know what it is.
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
@Cutiebeauty Yes why don't you? While you're at it maybe you could ask her for a date!
The Republican leaders exist solely to support the elite and dumb down the citizens.
Fred_Snerd comments on May 26, 2020:
Please, recognize the bad intentions and insincerity of those playing the system. Buy secondhand. Repair and recycle. Avoid fads and pop culture. Go off grid as much as you can and promote self sufficient communities. Not only will you be building a new world, you will be depriving the old world of ...
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
Keep dreaming. I do all that but I still bother to get off my a-- and vote. You don't and apparently think that's some great act of rebellion.
It just means 'they' won.
Fred_Snerd comments on May 26, 2020:
Please, recognize the bad intentions and insincerity of those playing the system. Buy secondhand. Repair and recycle. Avoid fads and pop culture. Go off grid as much as you can and promote self sufficient communities. Not only will you be building a new world, you will be depriving the old world of ...
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
Keep dreaming. I do all that but I still bother to get off my a-- and vote. You don't and apparently think that's some great act of rebellion.
It just means 'they' won.
We're number one! The United States far leads the world in COVID-19 deaths.
WilliamFleming comments on May 26, 2020:
We lead in sheer numbers but we are nowhere near the hardest hit in terms of deaths per capita. It seems to me that deaths per capita is the most useful figure when comparing countries because the aggregate of cases depends on the amount of testing and who is tested. And that number says nothing ...
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
But now many areas of the country are more or less abandoning precautions, so summer might keep numbers SOMEWHAT low, but unless there's a miracle vaccine or some other breakthrough, we could be in for a disastrous fall and winter.
WilliamFleming comments on May 26, 2020:
We lead in sheer numbers but we are nowhere near the hardest hit in terms of deaths per capita. It seems to me that deaths per capita is the most useful figure when comparing countries because the aggregate of cases depends on the amount of testing and who is tested. And that number says nothing ...
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
But now many areas of the country are more or less abandoning precautions, so summer might keep numbers SOMEWHAT low, but unless there's a miracle vaccine or some other breakthrough, we could be in for a disastrous fall and winter.
Is homosexuality a choice?
brentan comments on May 26, 2020:
There's a fixation of faeces. Sex in the plumbing area (not like heterosex, oh no). And I think it's like the elephant in the room for liberals. It's an issue. We should talk about it.
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
Go ahead. Talk.
brentan comments on May 26, 2020:
There's a fixation of faeces. Sex in the plumbing area (not like heterosex, oh no). And I think it's like the elephant in the room for liberals. It's an issue. We should talk about it.
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
Go ahead. Talk.
Is homosexuality a choice?
sassygirl3869 comments on May 26, 2020:
I attribute it to ignorance. Many who are homophobic are racists as well. Agree/Disagree?
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
@sassygirl3869 Some people let the frustrations of life get to them and just snap.
Shame.
sassygirl3869 comments on May 26, 2020:
I attribute it to ignorance. Many who are homophobic are racists as well. Agree/Disagree?
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
@sassygirl3869 Some people let the frustrations of life get to them and just snap.
Shame.
Hello Everyone,
If someone was without enough food or support and did not have enough money to ...
Storm1752 comments on May 25, 2020:
I think it's perfectly acceptable and in her case a very good idea. An abortion of an unwanted fetus is an excellent option.
It hasn't been born! It doesn't even know it exists! Do YOU remember being in the womb? Of. course not.
In my opinion, it's no different than aborting a monkey fetus, or a ...
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
@demifeministgal Oh. Okay.
Thanks.
What really bothers me is the 'powers-that-be,' that is, the super rich, are using these side issues, which are TOTALLY BOGUS, to manipulate whole voting blocs, whether it be boorish Evangelicals, clueless gun nuts, obnoxious flag wavers, or whomever, to vote against their obvious self-interests and for eternal servitude.
And they fix it so they think it's their idea!
Brilliant.
Meanwhile the rest of us roll our eyes, shake our heads, and sigh.
Storm1752 comments on May 25, 2020:
I think it's perfectly acceptable and in her case a very good idea. An abortion of an unwanted fetus is an excellent option.
It hasn't been born! It doesn't even know it exists! Do YOU remember being in the womb? Of. course not.
In my opinion, it's no different than aborting a monkey fetus, or a ...
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
@demifeministgal Oh. Okay.
Thanks.
What really bothers me is the 'powers-that-be,' that is, the super rich, are using these side issues, which are TOTALLY BOGUS, to manipulate whole voting blocs, whether it be boorish Evangelicals, clueless gun nuts, obnoxious flag wavers, or whomever, to vote against their obvious self-interests and for eternal servitude.
And they fix it so they think it's their idea!
Brilliant.
Meanwhile the rest of us roll our eyes, shake our heads, and sigh.
Hello Everyone,
If someone was without enough food or support and did not have enough money to ...
Storm1752 comments on May 25, 2020:
I think it's perfectly acceptable and in her case a very good idea. An abortion of an unwanted fetus is an excellent option.
It hasn't been born! It doesn't even know it exists! Do YOU remember being in the womb? Of. course not.
In my opinion, it's no different than aborting a monkey fetus, or a ...
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
@demifeministgal Fine. I hope I gave 'her' or 'them' plenty of material.
Whatever.
Storm1752 comments on May 25, 2020:
I think it's perfectly acceptable and in her case a very good idea. An abortion of an unwanted fetus is an excellent option.
It hasn't been born! It doesn't even know it exists! Do YOU remember being in the womb? Of. course not.
In my opinion, it's no different than aborting a monkey fetus, or a ...
Storm1752 replies on May 26, 2020:
@demifeministgal Fine. I hope I gave 'her' or 'them' plenty of material.
Whatever.
As a young catholic school girl, I tried so hard to believe.
Mofo1953 comments on May 25, 2020:
I am also choked up by art of all types, not just religious but also secular, that's a sign that all humans appreciate beauty. Has nothing to do with religion.
Storm1752 replies on May 25, 2020:
@Fernapple Do you mean Illusion with a capital I? If you ask me it is 'artistic' in the same way a desert mirage is an oasis.
Mofo1953 comments on May 25, 2020:
I am also choked up by art of all types, not just religious but also secular, that's a sign that all humans appreciate beauty. Has nothing to do with religion.
Storm1752 replies on May 25, 2020:
@Fernapple Do you mean Illusion with a capital I? If you ask me it is 'artistic' in the same way a desert mirage is an oasis.
As a young catholic school girl, I tried so hard to believe.
Krish55 comments on May 25, 2020:
Marx's full quote expressed it best: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_people
Storm1752 replies on May 25, 2020:
Great quote. Thank you very much.
Krish55 comments on May 25, 2020:
Marx's full quote expressed it best: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_people
Storm1752 replies on May 25, 2020:
Great quote. Thank you very much.
I checked in to see what agnostics are up to these days.
Storm1752 comments on May 17, 2020:
Hi!
Maybe you can help us: there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding between our two groups, because while Agnostics and atheists are "related" in some ways (non-religious), in others we're very different.
As an agnostic, I find atheists condenscending, as if Agnostics 'just aren't there yet," ...
Storm1752 replies on May 25, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe Now I'm curious...send me a message!
Storm1752 comments on May 17, 2020:
Hi!
Maybe you can help us: there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding between our two groups, because while Agnostics and atheists are "related" in some ways (non-religious), in others we're very different.
As an agnostic, I find atheists condenscending, as if Agnostics 'just aren't there yet," ...
Storm1752 replies on May 25, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe Now I'm curious...send me a message!
Read this on another board and thought I'd offer it up for discussion here.
Storm1752 comments on May 19, 2020:
Very good.
Reincarnation is being thoroughly investigated at the University of Virginia and it has yielded some very compelling results.
It's not necessary to believe in an old-school 'god' to speculate it might be a natural, physically-explainable phenomenon which COULD lead (as is the Buddhist ...
Storm1752 replies on May 23, 2020:
@MsDemeanour Interesting.
Storm1752 comments on May 19, 2020:
Very good.
Reincarnation is being thoroughly investigated at the University of Virginia and it has yielded some very compelling results.
It's not necessary to believe in an old-school 'god' to speculate it might be a natural, physically-explainable phenomenon which COULD lead (as is the Buddhist ...
Storm1752 replies on May 23, 2020:
@MsDemeanour Interesting.
I spent far too much time looking into which group this would be most appropriately posted, so it ...
Storm1752 comments on May 19, 2020:
Origen surely had some inspiring thoughts, but because lately I'm interested in the newly 'hot' idea of a cyclical universe (as opposed to a Big Bang-style one) and reincarnation (which he rejected though he confusingly tolerated 'transmigration of the soul'), and because he held versions of ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@Amzungu I'm agnostic so as far as I'm concerned it COULD have been 'god,' just maybe a different one, about which we know nothing, with no name or separate consciousness, or know just a tiny amount, or ..?
(Maybe more some other time; it's been a long day.)
Storm1752 comments on May 19, 2020:
Origen surely had some inspiring thoughts, but because lately I'm interested in the newly 'hot' idea of a cyclical universe (as opposed to a Big Bang-style one) and reincarnation (which he rejected though he confusingly tolerated 'transmigration of the soul'), and because he held versions of ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@Amzungu I'm agnostic so as far as I'm concerned it COULD have been 'god,' just maybe a different one, about which we know nothing, with no name or separate consciousness, or know just a tiny amount, or ..?
(Maybe more some other time; it's been a long day.)
Read this on another board and thought I'd offer it up for discussion here.
Storm1752 comments on May 19, 2020:
Very good.
Reincarnation is being thoroughly investigated at the University of Virginia and it has yielded some very compelling results.
It's not necessary to believe in an old-school 'god' to speculate it might be a natural, physically-explainable phenomenon which COULD lead (as is the Buddhist ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@MsDemeanour Interesting, indeed. Hard to explain.
Not enough evidence of extraterrestrials, sure. Also interesting.
I could argue UFOs either way Reincarnation? I'd need an explanation for the memories and birthmarks which plausibly accounts from them in some other way.
No free will? Do you have the freedom to decide a course of action? Don't you make decisions every day? Please explain what you mean, if you decide to take the time to respond.
Storm1752 comments on May 19, 2020:
Very good.
Reincarnation is being thoroughly investigated at the University of Virginia and it has yielded some very compelling results.
It's not necessary to believe in an old-school 'god' to speculate it might be a natural, physically-explainable phenomenon which COULD lead (as is the Buddhist ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@MsDemeanour Interesting, indeed. Hard to explain.
Not enough evidence of extraterrestrials, sure. Also interesting.
I could argue UFOs either way Reincarnation? I'd need an explanation for the memories and birthmarks which plausibly accounts from them in some other way.
No free will? Do you have the freedom to decide a course of action? Don't you make decisions every day? Please explain what you mean, if you decide to take the time to respond.
I checked in to see what agnostics are up to these days.
Storm1752 comments on May 17, 2020:
Hi!
Maybe you can help us: there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding between our two groups, because while Agnostics and atheists are "related" in some ways (non-religious), in others we're very different.
As an agnostic, I find atheists condenscending, as if Agnostics 'just aren't there yet," ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@CharlesTurner WHAT is a 'simple fact?' That there's no god?
I don't acknowledge it. So what is a 'fact' for you is not one for me. It's not a 'non-fact,' or a falsity, either. It's neither.
To me, it's open to conjecture and must necessarily be so. That you are so certain it's a 'fact' amazes me.
Yet there it is.
It's as big of a mystery you think that way as it is a mystery the subject matter ('god') itself.
Storm1752 comments on May 17, 2020:
Hi!
Maybe you can help us: there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding between our two groups, because while Agnostics and atheists are "related" in some ways (non-religious), in others we're very different.
As an agnostic, I find atheists condenscending, as if Agnostics 'just aren't there yet," ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@CharlesTurner WHAT is a 'simple fact?' That there's no god?
I don't acknowledge it. So what is a 'fact' for you is not one for me. It's not a 'non-fact,' or a falsity, either. It's neither.
To me, it's open to conjecture and must necessarily be so. That you are so certain it's a 'fact' amazes me.
Yet there it is.
It's as big of a mystery you think that way as it is a mystery the subject matter ('god') itself.
I spent far too much time looking into which group this would be most appropriately posted, so it ...
Storm1752 comments on May 19, 2020:
Origen surely had some inspiring thoughts, but because lately I'm interested in the newly 'hot' idea of a cyclical universe (as opposed to a Big Bang-style one) and reincarnation (which he rejected though he confusingly tolerated 'transmigration of the soul'), and because he held versions of ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@Amzungu Yeah there might be SOME truth there, which he fit into his cosmology, which he learned from someone else, and obviously believed. He had his own unique 'belief system,' and probably had some mystical experiences which were probably authentic.
But the source of whatever he believed was, I proffer, more basic to the stuff of life itself, energy and matter. And nobody seems to know for sure WHAT that is.
Let's say he was in touch with some 'true' source of inspiration which was then filtered through his belief system to produce a fictionalized VERSION of A 'truth.' Right?
Best I can do. When you think of all the brilliant men and women who were equally convinced they knew THE truth but, perhaps like Origen, instead also only 'knew' a fictionalized version of it, you might think before we decide for OURselves what the 'truth' is, we should discount or discard about, oh, 99.9% of it.
Storm1752 comments on May 19, 2020:
Origen surely had some inspiring thoughts, but because lately I'm interested in the newly 'hot' idea of a cyclical universe (as opposed to a Big Bang-style one) and reincarnation (which he rejected though he confusingly tolerated 'transmigration of the soul'), and because he held versions of ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@Amzungu Yeah there might be SOME truth there, which he fit into his cosmology, which he learned from someone else, and obviously believed. He had his own unique 'belief system,' and probably had some mystical experiences which were probably authentic.
But the source of whatever he believed was, I proffer, more basic to the stuff of life itself, energy and matter. And nobody seems to know for sure WHAT that is.
Let's say he was in touch with some 'true' source of inspiration which was then filtered through his belief system to produce a fictionalized VERSION of A 'truth.' Right?
Best I can do. When you think of all the brilliant men and women who were equally convinced they knew THE truth but, perhaps like Origen, instead also only 'knew' a fictionalized version of it, you might think before we decide for OURselves what the 'truth' is, we should discount or discard about, oh, 99.9% of it.
Read this on another board and thought I'd offer it up for discussion here.
Khentyimentu comments on May 22, 2020:
@Sgt_Spanky I found the concept interesting, but I think it still partakes of the supernatural/soul idea with a bit of magic to get that transference to happen. Where does that pattern from the deceased person go to be preserved to imprint the new brain? How is it preserved even though a long ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
That's legit. The only response I have is maybe some day with more research, more sophisticated equipment, etc., we might be able to trace and pinpoint how it occurs, IF it occurs. If it does, it's obviously not magic, and the research done up to now certainly is interesting, if not compelling.
As far as, is this 'evidence' of 'god?'
No.
The truth is, we'd have to establish if it's real or not first, before we could even figure out if it's even a clue to ANYTHING.
Khentyimentu comments on May 22, 2020:
@Sgt_Spanky I found the concept interesting, but I think it still partakes of the supernatural/soul idea with a bit of magic to get that transference to happen. Where does that pattern from the deceased person go to be preserved to imprint the new brain? How is it preserved even though a long ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
That's legit. The only response I have is maybe some day with more research, more sophisticated equipment, etc., we might be able to trace and pinpoint how it occurs, IF it occurs. If it does, it's obviously not magic, and the research done up to now certainly is interesting, if not compelling.
As far as, is this 'evidence' of 'god?'
No.
The truth is, we'd have to establish if it's real or not first, before we could even figure out if it's even a clue to ANYTHING.
Read this on another board and thought I'd offer it up for discussion here.
Storm1752 comments on May 19, 2020:
Very good.
Reincarnation is being thoroughly investigated at the University of Virginia and it has yielded some very compelling results.
It's not necessary to believe in an old-school 'god' to speculate it might be a natural, physically-explainable phenomenon which COULD lead (as is the Buddhist ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@MsDemeanour Well, accounts compiled by competent professionals are only a few taps away on your phone: reincarnation...University of Virginia...Stevenson (or Tucker)...and you can read about it, giving you more information on which to base your suspicions! And there's a lot more, too, but that's a very credible place to start.
Storm1752 comments on May 19, 2020:
Very good.
Reincarnation is being thoroughly investigated at the University of Virginia and it has yielded some very compelling results.
It's not necessary to believe in an old-school 'god' to speculate it might be a natural, physically-explainable phenomenon which COULD lead (as is the Buddhist ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@MsDemeanour Well, accounts compiled by competent professionals are only a few taps away on your phone: reincarnation...University of Virginia...Stevenson (or Tucker)...and you can read about it, giving you more information on which to base your suspicions! And there's a lot more, too, but that's a very credible place to start.
I checked in to see what agnostics are up to these days.
Storm1752 comments on May 17, 2020:
Hi!
Maybe you can help us: there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding between our two groups, because while Agnostics and atheists are "related" in some ways (non-religious), in others we're very different.
As an agnostic, I find atheists condenscending, as if Agnostics 'just aren't there yet," ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe Thanks. When people dismiss ALL of it because they think it's an admission of SOME kind of 'god,' I partially agree because while I'm an 'atheist' when it comes to the 'god' most of us were brought up with, the door for me is wide open when it comes to either an impersonal 'god' which probably doesn't include a separate entity. What I mean by that I have no idea.
A new label is 'Ignostic,' which means someone who thinks the whole concept is so beyond human comprehension it can't be and/or isn't worth talking about. I usually don't go that far, because I've read about reincarnation, which seems real, though does that mean there's a 'god?' Or psychism, which through reading about Edgar Cayce and other convincingly genuine clairvoyants seem to point to SOMETHING beyond our five senses which give one reason the think it could be called 'god.' We STILL don't know what that is, of course.
So I don't know how anyone, frankly, could be 100% atheist. About the biblical guy, fine, no sale, but my theory is we will one day KNOW exactly the nature of energy and matter, and if there is (as I think) a "collective unconscious," and how people like Cayce accessed the information they did (and presumably do), and how some children apparently remember past lives, etc.
About aliens, I watch all the Ancient Aliens programs, and c'mon, there's a LOT there that just can't be explained away, and there are regularly sightings by extremely believable witnesses like military pilots and law enforcement and many others, and some pretty amazing video. MY only questions are CAN they travel here from there (lots of theories) and IS it possible we are the only inhabitable planet in the universe (unlikely but possible). Otherwise I'm pretty convinced we have been and even are now being visited.
Anyway, I wish these obnoxiously 'no way, no how' atheists would lighten up and admit they DON'T KNOW and it's okay.
Storm1752 comments on May 17, 2020:
Hi!
Maybe you can help us: there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding between our two groups, because while Agnostics and atheists are "related" in some ways (non-religious), in others we're very different.
As an agnostic, I find atheists condenscending, as if Agnostics 'just aren't there yet," ...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe Thanks. When people dismiss ALL of it because they think it's an admission of SOME kind of 'god,' I partially agree because while I'm an 'atheist' when it comes to the 'god' most of us were brought up with, the door for me is wide open when it comes to either an impersonal 'god' which probably doesn't include a separate entity. What I mean by that I have no idea.
A new label is 'Ignostic,' which means someone who thinks the whole concept is so beyond human comprehension it can't be and/or isn't worth talking about. I usually don't go that far, because I've read about reincarnation, which seems real, though does that mean there's a 'god?' Or psychism, which through reading about Edgar Cayce and other convincingly genuine clairvoyants seem to point to SOMETHING beyond our five senses which give one reason the think it could be called 'god.' We STILL don't know what that is, of course.
So I don't know how anyone, frankly, could be 100% atheist. About the biblical guy, fine, no sale, but my theory is we will one day KNOW exactly the nature of energy and matter, and if there is (as I think) a "collective unconscious," and how people like Cayce accessed the information they did (and presumably do), and how some children apparently remember past lives, etc.
About aliens, I watch all the Ancient Aliens programs, and c'mon, there's a LOT there that just can't be explained away, and there are regularly sightings by extremely believable witnesses like military pilots and law enforcement and many others, and some pretty amazing video. MY only questions are CAN they travel here from there (lots of theories) and IS it possible we are the only inhabitable planet in the universe (unlikely but possible). Otherwise I'm pretty convinced we have been and even are now being visited.
Anyway, I wish these obnoxiously 'no way, no how' atheists would lighten up and admit they DON'T KNOW and it's okay.
There could hardly be anything more beautiful... [mymodernmet.com]
Storm1752 comments on May 21, 2020:
They look a little bored...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@Allamanda I wouldn't go THAT far. Deer actually have very hard lives, so any break is welcome.
Storm1752 comments on May 21, 2020:
They look a little bored...
Storm1752 replies on May 22, 2020:
@Allamanda I wouldn't go THAT far. Deer actually have very hard lives, so any break is welcome.
I live on a world, and try to live in a world, with a bunch of fucking idiots.
Storm1752 comments on May 20, 2020:
What's it about, then?
Storm1752 replies on May 20, 2020:
@SeaGreenEyez Hey, no need! You're right. It's NOT about religion! It's about...humility, honesty, and a little common sense.
Storm1752 comments on May 20, 2020:
What's it about, then?
Storm1752 replies on May 20, 2020:
@SeaGreenEyez Hey, no need! You're right. It's NOT about religion! It's about...humility, honesty, and a little common sense.
Read this on another board and thought I'd offer it up for discussion here.
Storm1752 comments on May 19, 2020:
Very good.
Reincarnation is being thoroughly investigated at the University of Virginia and it has yielded some very compelling results.
It's not necessary to believe in an old-school 'god' to speculate it might be a natural, physically-explainable phenomenon which COULD lead (as is the Buddhist ...
Storm1752 replies on May 20, 2020:
@Rodatheist, @Moravian Figure of speech.
Storm1752 comments on May 19, 2020:
Very good.
Reincarnation is being thoroughly investigated at the University of Virginia and it has yielded some very compelling results.
It's not necessary to believe in an old-school 'god' to speculate it might be a natural, physically-explainable phenomenon which COULD lead (as is the Buddhist ...
Storm1752 replies on May 20, 2020:
@Rodatheist, @Moravian Figure of speech.
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