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It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
Lb12star comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I belong to a Freethought Toastmasters Club, and our founding member has often explained the definitions of Atheism And Agnosticism. Theism means having a belief. Gnosticism means having knowledge. The A- means "a lack of". So, in my eye EVERYONE is Agnostic, because NOBODY KNOWS anything FOR ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
I do. I was writing you something so amazing, cogent, and dead-on fantastic it took my breath away, but I somehow touched the wrong part of the screen and it went, 'Poof!'
So allow me to synoposize. First, I love you. Sincerely. Without reservation. ALMOST as much as I love myself. Which is lot. Despite what others think. I could go on forever about the esteem in which I hold myself. I love you like that. This is because I'm deeply flattered. Thank you.
Second, I don't talk to my family. Not because I dislike them. I don't. I wish them well. Sort of. If I DID talk to them, the subject probably wouldn't come up, because they're not religious, maybe even agnostic themselves.
The only family I talk to is my 96-year-old mother, a deeply pious Catholic.
I used to engage her in spirited debate but lost interest because 1) the result was predictable and boring, 2) I saw no point in upsetting her. She asked me last time we talked about something on Catholic TV about the New Atheists. She was REALLY asking me if I was one. I'm not, but close enough for me to sidestep the whole subject. Why bother? She was a good mother in her own way, no need to freak her out. The rest of them do that, blaming her for their dysfunction and unhappiness. I don't. In fact, I'm happier now than I've ever been.
Hey, I'm taking down your information. I'm going to look into your group. Right now I'm tired! Been a long day. My email is michaelstortz179@gmail.com. Send me something about it, please. Let's talk.
I DO agree with everything you said. If I didn't I'd say so.
Lb12star comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I belong to a Freethought Toastmasters Club, and our founding member has often explained the definitions of Atheism And Agnosticism. Theism means having a belief. Gnosticism means having knowledge. The A- means "a lack of". So, in my eye EVERYONE is Agnostic, because NOBODY KNOWS anything FOR ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
I do. I was writing you something so amazing, cogent, and dead-on fantastic it took my breath away, but I somehow touched the wrong part of the screen and it went, 'Poof!'
So allow me to synoposize. First, I love you. Sincerely. Without reservation. ALMOST as much as I love myself. Which is lot. Despite what others think. I could go on forever about the esteem in which I hold myself. I love you like that. This is because I'm deeply flattered. Thank you.
Second, I don't talk to my family. Not because I dislike them. I don't. I wish them well. Sort of. If I DID talk to them, the subject probably wouldn't come up, because they're not religious, maybe even agnostic themselves.
The only family I talk to is my 96-year-old mother, a deeply pious Catholic.
I used to engage her in spirited debate but lost interest because 1) the result was predictable and boring, 2) I saw no point in upsetting her. She asked me last time we talked about something on Catholic TV about the New Atheists. She was REALLY asking me if I was one. I'm not, but close enough for me to sidestep the whole subject. Why bother? She was a good mother in her own way, no need to freak her out. The rest of them do that, blaming her for their dysfunction and unhappiness. I don't. In fact, I'm happier now than I've ever been.
Hey, I'm taking down your information. I'm going to look into your group. Right now I'm tired! Been a long day. My email is michaelstortz179@gmail.com. Send me something about it, please. Let's talk.
I DO agree with everything you said. If I didn't I'd say so.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
FatherOfNyx comments on Mar 25, 2019:
There has to be a link between this whole agnostic vs atheist thing and narcissism. Like the people who try to divide the two are so focused on themselves, and they consider themselves to be agnostic, that they have to find a way to divide themselves from atheists. I mean, I don't even know what ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Are you saying I'm narcissistic? True. In my own defense I would only add, everybody is to one degree or another. I am the most important person in the world, to me. To everybody else I'm unimportant, irrelevant, not worth mentioning. Even my circumspection is calculated to draw attention to myself. If I give change to a beggar on the street, it's to make ME feel good about myself. So, yes, nailed it.
FatherOfNyx comments on Mar 25, 2019:
There has to be a link between this whole agnostic vs atheist thing and narcissism. Like the people who try to divide the two are so focused on themselves, and they consider themselves to be agnostic, that they have to find a way to divide themselves from atheists. I mean, I don't even know what ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Are you saying I'm narcissistic? True. In my own defense I would only add, everybody is to one degree or another. I am the most important person in the world, to me. To everybody else I'm unimportant, irrelevant, not worth mentioning. Even my circumspection is calculated to draw attention to myself. If I give change to a beggar on the street, it's to make ME feel good about myself. So, yes, nailed it.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
DoctoralZombie comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Here, have a snickers and no god
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
During lean times, I confess, I DID steal Snickers bars from the 7-11. Yummy.
DoctoralZombie comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Here, have a snickers and no god
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
During lean times, I confess, I DID steal Snickers bars from the 7-11. Yummy.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
F-IM-Forty comments on Mar 25, 2019:
:] @Storm1752 It looks like you explained your thoughts very thoroughly, I can appreciate the courage it took to do that. [:
In my experience it works better to smile before presenting your evidence, and sandwich the suggestions and bad news between two positive statements. Human beings ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Thank you. Btw, do YOU think the Flavian emperors and the people around them wrote the "new testament?" Haven't done as much reading on it as I should, but those books HAD to have been either written by Roman scribes, OR selected for publication by someone with ties to the Romans of that time.
F-IM-Forty comments on Mar 25, 2019:
:] @Storm1752 It looks like you explained your thoughts very thoroughly, I can appreciate the courage it took to do that. [:
In my experience it works better to smile before presenting your evidence, and sandwich the suggestions and bad news between two positive statements. Human beings ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Thank you. Btw, do YOU think the Flavian emperors and the people around them wrote the "new testament?" Haven't done as much reading on it as I should, but those books HAD to have been either written by Roman scribes, OR selected for publication by someone with ties to the Romans of that time.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
LiterateHiker comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Nobody wants to read a wall of words.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Quarm Thanks.
LiterateHiker comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Nobody wants to read a wall of words.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Quarm Thanks.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
jerry99 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I really miss the yawn emoji.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@bigpawbullets I didn't say I was creating the Bible, here. That was made up over centuries. And how could they make up the "Egyptian Captivity" out of whole cloth and not get called on it? Pretty impressive. A towering figure like Moses? Solomon? David? ANYBODY??? Nope. Just some guy in a tent. Probably high on peyote, or something. Simply awe-inspiring how they duped, and continue to dupe, millions. Absolutely, literally, unbelievable.
jerry99 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I really miss the yawn emoji.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@bigpawbullets I didn't say I was creating the Bible, here. That was made up over centuries. And how could they make up the "Egyptian Captivity" out of whole cloth and not get called on it? Pretty impressive. A towering figure like Moses? Solomon? David? ANYBODY??? Nope. Just some guy in a tent. Probably high on peyote, or something. Simply awe-inspiring how they duped, and continue to dupe, millions. Absolutely, literally, unbelievable.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
powder comments on Mar 25, 2019:
As an atheist, I totally dismiss the concept of judgemental creator deities. That is all it means to me.
What we know we call science, and we know far less than we think we do.
I just separate in my own mind what is known and what is belief. Not worried about death as nothing to judge.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@powder Thank you! Thank you! My point exactly! My ONLY point!
powder comments on Mar 25, 2019:
As an atheist, I totally dismiss the concept of judgemental creator deities. That is all it means to me.
What we know we call science, and we know far less than we think we do.
I just separate in my own mind what is known and what is belief. Not worried about death as nothing to judge.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@powder Thank you! Thank you! My point exactly! My ONLY point!
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
darthfaja comments on Mar 25, 2019:
This site isn’t primarily for Agnostics, despite the name.
And honestly.... who cares?
Since when does an opinion about something hurt anyone?
Even if there is a god I couldn’t give two shits about him/her/it/them
“poison them with negativity and pessimism, all the while claiming ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Yeah, I need to chill. I nervously sip on my glass of water...I gotta relax, take a pill, drink a warm glass of milk with Pepto Bismol...lay down and apply a hot water bag to my cold, clammy head...ahhh...
Thanks. Feeling much better...now, what was that you said? Something about this site NOT being primarily for agnostics??? Well, see, nobody told me! I thought, well, "Agnostics.com," pretty clear on THAT one! Hehehe...no? Damn! Fooled again! In that case, allow me to stand corrected. Again. For the, like, hundredth time this month alone. Appreciate it. I'll just slink back into my cave now. I take it all back.
Bye.
darthfaja comments on Mar 25, 2019:
This site isn’t primarily for Agnostics, despite the name.
And honestly.... who cares?
Since when does an opinion about something hurt anyone?
Even if there is a god I couldn’t give two shits about him/her/it/them
“poison them with negativity and pessimism, all the while claiming ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Yeah, I need to chill. I nervously sip on my glass of water...I gotta relax, take a pill, drink a warm glass of milk with Pepto Bismol...lay down and apply a hot water bag to my cold, clammy head...ahhh...
Thanks. Feeling much better...now, what was that you said? Something about this site NOT being primarily for agnostics??? Well, see, nobody told me! I thought, well, "Agnostics.com," pretty clear on THAT one! Hehehe...no? Damn! Fooled again! In that case, allow me to stand corrected. Again. For the, like, hundredth time this month alone. Appreciate it. I'll just slink back into my cave now. I take it all back.
Bye.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
LiterateHiker comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Nobody wants to read a wall of words.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Quarm, @BohoHeathen A "religion" can be defined loosely as a belief system to which one invests supreme importance. But narrowly, atheism us a quasi-religion, or an " anti-religion" with all the trappings of the real thing. Agnostics, on the other hand, SIMPLY DON'T KNOW if there's a god or gods, or what that very word might mean, except to say, "Who knows?" Each individual agnostic is rebellious against the very IDEA human beings know ANYTHING about such matters. If there is anything to comprehend, it is so far beyond what our brains can fathom, we can be said to know nothing. I am satisfied the "God" of Yahweh and Allah and the Father and all the rest are pure fiction. Do I KNOW that? I'm teetering...I'm so tempted to say, 'Yes, I'm 100% sure." In fact...damn! Yes, okay? Of THAT I'm positive! Same with most of the other theological underpinning of the whole rotten edifice.
But that's it! That and other similar fables like Midas, the goose and the golden egg. I'm sure lots of other things. Like the 2nd Amendment makes sense. Not that I don't approve of gun ownership! I do!
Anyway...
LiterateHiker comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Nobody wants to read a wall of words.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Quarm, @BohoHeathen A "religion" can be defined loosely as a belief system to which one invests supreme importance. But narrowly, atheism us a quasi-religion, or an " anti-religion" with all the trappings of the real thing. Agnostics, on the other hand, SIMPLY DON'T KNOW if there's a god or gods, or what that very word might mean, except to say, "Who knows?" Each individual agnostic is rebellious against the very IDEA human beings know ANYTHING about such matters. If there is anything to comprehend, it is so far beyond what our brains can fathom, we can be said to know nothing. I am satisfied the "God" of Yahweh and Allah and the Father and all the rest are pure fiction. Do I KNOW that? I'm teetering...I'm so tempted to say, 'Yes, I'm 100% sure." In fact...damn! Yes, okay? Of THAT I'm positive! Same with most of the other theological underpinning of the whole rotten edifice.
But that's it! That and other similar fables like Midas, the goose and the golden egg. I'm sure lots of other things. Like the 2nd Amendment makes sense. Not that I don't approve of gun ownership! I do!
Anyway...
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
LiterateHiker comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Nobody wants to read a wall of words.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Quarm If you think I insulted you, I'm sorry you feel that way. All I was saying was, atheists convinced beyond question their opinions are unassailable should consider lightening up and not take themselves so deathly seriously. Within the halls of reason there is room for many schools of thought. Instead of looking for THE truth, maybe they should think a little more like agnostics and be open to the notion there IS no truth, only opinion, about most things.
LiterateHiker comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Nobody wants to read a wall of words.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Quarm If you think I insulted you, I'm sorry you feel that way. All I was saying was, atheists convinced beyond question their opinions are unassailable should consider lightening up and not take themselves so deathly seriously. Within the halls of reason there is room for many schools of thought. Instead of looking for THE truth, maybe they should think a little more like agnostics and be open to the notion there IS no truth, only opinion, about most things.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
LiterateHiker comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Nobody wants to read a wall of words.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
I know. I hate that about myself. I DID make it into paragraphs...but I have no excuse.
And I've decided I'm going to answer my detractors if it takes all night. They're going to say all kinds of horrible things about what was just an appeal for nuance, balance, and open-mindedness.
I tried to be fair and reasonable, but some people build these ideological prisons, lock themselves in, and refuse deliverance. Or something like that.
LiterateHiker comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Nobody wants to read a wall of words.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
I know. I hate that about myself. I DID make it into paragraphs...but I have no excuse.
And I've decided I'm going to answer my detractors if it takes all night. They're going to say all kinds of horrible things about what was just an appeal for nuance, balance, and open-mindedness.
I tried to be fair and reasonable, but some people build these ideological prisons, lock themselves in, and refuse deliverance. Or something like that.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
jpouch1 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I stopped reading as soon as I scrolled down... Get a grip dude.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
I lost my grip right around puberty...then it was a slippery slope into adulthood and now, the senior years. As you must know, once you lose it, there's no coming back. But I guess the final straw was finding out THERE WAS NO NAZARETH. That is not my opinion. In 33 a.d. or whenever, "Nazareth" was a graveyard with one Adobe shack for the keeper. Imagine my shock! The rest of the dominos fell after that, one by one. It is a proven FACT he didn't exist, and if he didn't, Cristianity doesn't, except in the minds of the gullible, the charlatan, the fraud. That's FAR different than thinking there might be something to this reincarnation thing, for one. Two very different things. I'm not claiming it's DEFINITELY real, but you can't dismiss it as easily as you can the water walker.
jpouch1 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I stopped reading as soon as I scrolled down... Get a grip dude.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
I lost my grip right around puberty...then it was a slippery slope into adulthood and now, the senior years. As you must know, once you lose it, there's no coming back. But I guess the final straw was finding out THERE WAS NO NAZARETH. That is not my opinion. In 33 a.d. or whenever, "Nazareth" was a graveyard with one Adobe shack for the keeper. Imagine my shock! The rest of the dominos fell after that, one by one. It is a proven FACT he didn't exist, and if he didn't, Cristianity doesn't, except in the minds of the gullible, the charlatan, the fraud. That's FAR different than thinking there might be something to this reincarnation thing, for one. Two very different things. I'm not claiming it's DEFINITELY real, but you can't dismiss it as easily as you can the water walker.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
mzbehavin comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Ahuh.... sure. I think it's time for your nap now... I'm exhausted and I didn't even finish this... IDK, manifesto?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Manifesto? Hmmm.... Essay? Opinion piece? Ummm.... "Argument in Defense of Nuance." One man's plea for balance. Point of view? Jeez I don't know. Just bored.... thought I'd stir the pot.
mzbehavin comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Ahuh.... sure. I think it's time for your nap now... I'm exhausted and I didn't even finish this... IDK, manifesto?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Manifesto? Hmmm.... Essay? Opinion piece? Ummm.... "Argument in Defense of Nuance." One man's plea for balance. Point of view? Jeez I don't know. Just bored.... thought I'd stir the pot.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
indirect76 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
First, paragraphs. Please.
Second, I’m an agnostic athiest. I’m sorry it bothers you that people have different uses for words.
Third, “ANYTHING is possible, except...” That’s just funny by itself. No explanation needed.
Overall: F-
Please see the teacher after class.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
You're entitled to your opinion; I respectfully disagree, and I base that on MY definition of 'atheist,' which I'm quite sure you disagree with. And this goes back to the familiar debating points...I won't go there. To ME (and I'm speaking only for myself, based on actual verbiage used) an atheist is SURE many things are false he cannot prove to be false. I'm not talking about the familiar no-brainers like heaven and hell, miracles, etc., but other things they can't possibly know. I SHARE many of those OPINIONS, but not others. There's room for open-minded discussion. What REALLY bothers me is the grim, unbending certainty. It's depressing, JUST AS DEPRESSING AS RELIGION. To me that "proves" it's wrong.
indirect76 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
First, paragraphs. Please.
Second, I’m an agnostic athiest. I’m sorry it bothers you that people have different uses for words.
Third, “ANYTHING is possible, except...” That’s just funny by itself. No explanation needed.
Overall: F-
Please see the teacher after class.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
You're entitled to your opinion; I respectfully disagree, and I base that on MY definition of 'atheist,' which I'm quite sure you disagree with. And this goes back to the familiar debating points...I won't go there. To ME (and I'm speaking only for myself, based on actual verbiage used) an atheist is SURE many things are false he cannot prove to be false. I'm not talking about the familiar no-brainers like heaven and hell, miracles, etc., but other things they can't possibly know. I SHARE many of those OPINIONS, but not others. There's room for open-minded discussion. What REALLY bothers me is the grim, unbending certainty. It's depressing, JUST AS DEPRESSING AS RELIGION. To me that "proves" it's wrong.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
darthfaja comments on Mar 25, 2019:
This site isn’t primarily for Agnostics, despite the name.
And honestly.... who cares?
Since when does an opinion about something hurt anyone?
Even if there is a god I couldn’t give two shits about him/her/it/them
“poison them with negativity and pessimism, all the while claiming ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Quarm Certainly a valid perspective. Under the circumstances, I wholeheartedly agree. BUT if we're all insane, doesn't that invalidate the word itself?
darthfaja comments on Mar 25, 2019:
This site isn’t primarily for Agnostics, despite the name.
And honestly.... who cares?
Since when does an opinion about something hurt anyone?
Even if there is a god I couldn’t give two shits about him/her/it/them
“poison them with negativity and pessimism, all the while claiming ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Quarm Certainly a valid perspective. Under the circumstances, I wholeheartedly agree. BUT if we're all insane, doesn't that invalidate the word itself?
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
1of5 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
So tell me, please (and TL;DR) if your undecided about the existence of gods or heaven and hell, how do you live your life? Is it in accordance with the laws of every religion, or have you made up your own religion that says "If I live a good life I go to whatever version of heaven exists"?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
In my opinion there are no gods, no heaven or hell...I said that. Hell is impossible according to ANY reasonable scenario. A "God would be incapable of creating such a place. We both know this. For that matter, God would be incapable of creating this world. If there was a "God" earth would be a paradise. It isn't, thus, no god.
1of5 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
So tell me, please (and TL;DR) if your undecided about the existence of gods or heaven and hell, how do you live your life? Is it in accordance with the laws of every religion, or have you made up your own religion that says "If I live a good life I go to whatever version of heaven exists"?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
In my opinion there are no gods, no heaven or hell...I said that. Hell is impossible according to ANY reasonable scenario. A "God would be incapable of creating such a place. We both know this. For that matter, God would be incapable of creating this world. If there was a "God" earth would be a paradise. It isn't, thus, no god.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
indirect76 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
First, paragraphs. Please.
Second, I’m an agnostic athiest. I’m sorry it bothers you that people have different uses for words.
Third, “ANYTHING is possible, except...” That’s just funny by itself. No explanation needed.
Overall: F-
Please see the teacher after class.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
I qualified ANYTHING. Of course some things are impossible. I said that.
indirect76 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
First, paragraphs. Please.
Second, I’m an agnostic athiest. I’m sorry it bothers you that people have different uses for words.
Third, “ANYTHING is possible, except...” That’s just funny by itself. No explanation needed.
Overall: F-
Please see the teacher after class.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
I qualified ANYTHING. Of course some things are impossible. I said that.
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
darthfaja comments on Mar 25, 2019:
This site isn’t primarily for Agnostics, despite the name.
And honestly.... who cares?
Since when does an opinion about something hurt anyone?
Even if there is a god I couldn’t give two shits about him/her/it/them
“poison them with negativity and pessimism, all the while claiming ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
I don't believe there's a "god." Do you think I'm insane?
darthfaja comments on Mar 25, 2019:
This site isn’t primarily for Agnostics, despite the name.
And honestly.... who cares?
Since when does an opinion about something hurt anyone?
Even if there is a god I couldn’t give two shits about him/her/it/them
“poison them with negativity and pessimism, all the while claiming ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
I don't believe there's a "god." Do you think I'm insane?
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
powder comments on Mar 25, 2019:
As an atheist, I totally dismiss the concept of judgemental creator deities. That is all it means to me.
What we know we call science, and we know far less than we think we do.
I just separate in my own mind what is known and what is belief. Not worried about death as nothing to judge.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
God the judgemental creator heaven and hell fame is a certifiable fallacy, a self-contradition. God defined as observable creation is self-evident, if one wishes to look at it that way. Infinite number if definitions. Are any of them valid in any meaningful sense? Who knows?
powder comments on Mar 25, 2019:
As an atheist, I totally dismiss the concept of judgemental creator deities. That is all it means to me.
What we know we call science, and we know far less than we think we do.
I just separate in my own mind what is known and what is belief. Not worried about death as nothing to judge.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
God the judgemental creator heaven and hell fame is a certifiable fallacy, a self-contradition. God defined as observable creation is self-evident, if one wishes to look at it that way. Infinite number if definitions. Are any of them valid in any meaningful sense? Who knows?
It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, despite the fact it's an agnostic one.
Aaaaaatheist comments on Mar 25, 2019:
And what exactly is your definition of agnostic? 500 words or less. Thanks
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Someone who has an open mind to everything which cannot be proven false. God as a concept cannot be, but the God of religion can be, because it is a self-contradiction which cannot be reconciled.
Aaaaaatheist comments on Mar 25, 2019:
And what exactly is your definition of agnostic? 500 words or less. Thanks
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Someone who has an open mind to everything which cannot be proven false. God as a concept cannot be, but the God of religion can be, because it is a self-contradiction which cannot be reconciled.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
P53-is-life comments on Mar 24, 2019:
There's no divine punishment for pedophiles who molest children and shooting them frowned upon.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Kafirah I don"t believe in 'souls' in the Judeo-Christian-Muslim sense. Don't be ridiculous. But do we have finer, more etheric bodies on other 'planes' of existence? Other dimensions our five senses and our instruments cannot yet detect? I don't know. Do you? And what about the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics? Energy cannot be created or destroyed? If you can't rule it out, it might not be probable, or even have a fifty percent likelihood, but you can't dismiss it out of hand.
On the other hand...
P53-is-life comments on Mar 24, 2019:
There's no divine punishment for pedophiles who molest children and shooting them frowned upon.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Kafirah I don"t believe in 'souls' in the Judeo-Christian-Muslim sense. Don't be ridiculous. But do we have finer, more etheric bodies on other 'planes' of existence? Other dimensions our five senses and our instruments cannot yet detect? I don't know. Do you? And what about the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics? Energy cannot be created or destroyed? If you can't rule it out, it might not be probable, or even have a fifty percent likelihood, but you can't dismiss it out of hand.
On the other hand...
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
P53-is-life comments on Mar 24, 2019:
There's no divine punishment for pedophiles who molest children and shooting them frowned upon.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Kafirah How do you know there's no punishment? There might be. It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, and they are depressing. Not you, necessarily, but in general. Death is The End, etc. How do THEY know? They talk with such certainty about it you'd think they got their Intel from a burning Bush. It's UNKNOWN. That's what an agnostic knows. It's a MYSTERY. Pesos might get punished. Murderers. Thieves. Whomever. Maybe not. No way of telling. But to sit there and say it's meaningless. It's the pits. Uou Just Can't Say That. No basis for that kind of pessimism. None. I'm just so happy with it the way it is I don't have room in my head for all that doom and gloom. I'm free. It's okay if I never reached my potential, if I made mistakes, because in the end it doesn't matter. If there's reincarnation the slate is wiped clean and you start again. If not, you're done. Or something else is true. No matter what, your life is your own, so just relax and enjoy the ride. I don't think evil people are enjoying anything. Could be wrong. Doesn't matter, not to me.
P53-is-life comments on Mar 24, 2019:
There's no divine punishment for pedophiles who molest children and shooting them frowned upon.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Kafirah How do you know there's no punishment? There might be. It seems atheists DOMINATE this site, and they are depressing. Not you, necessarily, but in general. Death is The End, etc. How do THEY know? They talk with such certainty about it you'd think they got their Intel from a burning Bush. It's UNKNOWN. That's what an agnostic knows. It's a MYSTERY. Pesos might get punished. Murderers. Thieves. Whomever. Maybe not. No way of telling. But to sit there and say it's meaningless. It's the pits. Uou Just Can't Say That. No basis for that kind of pessimism. None. I'm just so happy with it the way it is I don't have room in my head for all that doom and gloom. I'm free. It's okay if I never reached my potential, if I made mistakes, because in the end it doesn't matter. If there's reincarnation the slate is wiped clean and you start again. If not, you're done. Or something else is true. No matter what, your life is your own, so just relax and enjoy the ride. I don't think evil people are enjoying anything. Could be wrong. Doesn't matter, not to me.
I have been doing some thinking and as luck would have it, I think there should be more conversation...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Nukdookum Sounds good. Or going to a swingers party but just observe without taking part. Might be weird. They might think you're undercover Ask you to leave.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Nukdookum Sounds good. Or going to a swingers party but just observe without taking part. Might be weird. They might think you're undercover Ask you to leave.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
P53-is-life comments on Mar 24, 2019:
There's no divine punishment for pedophiles who molest children and shooting them frowned upon.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Kafirah Or an uncontrollable compulsion. A very disturbing topic. We're talking about something at least AKIN TO, if not QUITE as severe, as serial murder, a disease of the mind. That's why they increasingly throw away the key. They are usually beyond rehabilitation, reformation, hope.
P53-is-life comments on Mar 24, 2019:
There's no divine punishment for pedophiles who molest children and shooting them frowned upon.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Kafirah Or an uncontrollable compulsion. A very disturbing topic. We're talking about something at least AKIN TO, if not QUITE as severe, as serial murder, a disease of the mind. That's why they increasingly throw away the key. They are usually beyond rehabilitation, reformation, hope.
I have been doing some thinking and as luck would have it, I think there should be more conversation...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Nukdookum I particularly like hypotheticals involving me naked in bed with a sexy female. Who cares about sex AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT? It's a very encouraging sign regardless, for not only a sexual eventuality, but for a healthy overall relationship. She must like me a lot and trust me to come up with this kind of suggestion to begin with. If I came up with it, suspicions would abound. Probably wouldn't happen.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Nukdookum I particularly like hypotheticals involving me naked in bed with a sexy female. Who cares about sex AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT? It's a very encouraging sign regardless, for not only a sexual eventuality, but for a healthy overall relationship. She must like me a lot and trust me to come up with this kind of suggestion to begin with. If I came up with it, suspicions would abound. Probably wouldn't happen.
I have been doing some thinking and as luck would have it, I think there should be more conversation...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Nukdookum Cool. Hey hypotheticals are fun.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Nukdookum Cool. Hey hypotheticals are fun.
I have been doing some thinking and as luck would have it, I think there should be more conversation...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Wildflower If those were the ground rules it wouldn't be difficult...I'm just having fun talking about it. You and I could hang out naked in bed all day sex-free and not even sweat it. Could we bring a chess board or Monopoly though? Or a book of poems or short stories to read to each other. I'm a fair conversationalist, but it might get tedious.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Wildflower If those were the ground rules it wouldn't be difficult...I'm just having fun talking about it. You and I could hang out naked in bed all day sex-free and not even sweat it. Could we bring a chess board or Monopoly though? Or a book of poems or short stories to read to each other. I'm a fair conversationalist, but it might get tedious.
Bad news for meat eaters.
Captain_Feelgood comments on Mar 24, 2019:
I've been through this, about 4 years ago.. University of Virginia, I think it was... did a study on it.. I can tell you it sucks. It took about a month and a half to get over it the first time. A month the second time I got bit. I found that eating a small amount of beef or pork didn't send me into...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@JackPedigo One can live very easily without red meat And poultry. Think of all the atmosphere-destroying Methane (cow shit) we'd be eliminating.
Captain_Feelgood comments on Mar 24, 2019:
I've been through this, about 4 years ago.. University of Virginia, I think it was... did a study on it.. I can tell you it sucks. It took about a month and a half to get over it the first time. A month the second time I got bit. I found that eating a small amount of beef or pork didn't send me into...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@JackPedigo One can live very easily without red meat And poultry. Think of all the atmosphere-destroying Methane (cow shit) we'd be eliminating.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
DavidDeLa89 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
I was raised I was raised Christian . I beleieved with all of my heart that god was real and that I’d see lost loved ones and friends again after death. So when they died it cheered me up knowing I’d see them again ( or so I thought at the time ) . I prayed and went to church got the motivation ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Kafirah I can see the parallels. I'm anti-THEIST, but not anti-DEIST. I would change the definition of "God" to say something like, "That concept which includes those things of a scientifically-provable nature which would account for the existence of the physical universe, which we do not yet have the ability, the power, the right instrumentation, or sufficient knowledge, to at the present time detect, explain, account for, or comprehend."
DavidDeLa89 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
I was raised I was raised Christian . I beleieved with all of my heart that god was real and that I’d see lost loved ones and friends again after death. So when they died it cheered me up knowing I’d see them again ( or so I thought at the time ) . I prayed and went to church got the motivation ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Kafirah I can see the parallels. I'm anti-THEIST, but not anti-DEIST. I would change the definition of "God" to say something like, "That concept which includes those things of a scientifically-provable nature which would account for the existence of the physical universe, which we do not yet have the ability, the power, the right instrumentation, or sufficient knowledge, to at the present time detect, explain, account for, or comprehend."
I have been doing some thinking and as luck would have it, I think there should be more conversation...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Nukdookum Sure. Why not? I like to joke about just about everything, and this topic is begging for it, but it'd be cool.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Nukdookum Sure. Why not? I like to joke about just about everything, and this topic is begging for it, but it'd be cool.
I have been doing some thinking and as luck would have it, I think there should be more conversation...
Cutiebeauty comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I don't think I would ever cuddle naked with someone I wasn't sexual involved with at the time... So the question of refraining from sex isn't something I can respond to...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty If we hung out in bed naked and sex-free, could we at least bring the laptop and watch Christopher Hitchens speeches, movies, sports, maybe even a little lez porn? It might otherwise get a little boring.
Cutiebeauty comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I don't think I would ever cuddle naked with someone I wasn't sexual involved with at the time... So the question of refraining from sex isn't something I can respond to...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty If we hung out in bed naked and sex-free, could we at least bring the laptop and watch Christopher Hitchens speeches, movies, sports, maybe even a little lez porn? It might otherwise get a little boring.
I have been doing some thinking and as luck would have it, I think there should be more conversation...
Cutiebeauty comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I don't think I would ever cuddle naked with someone I wasn't sexual involved with at the time... So the question of refraining from sex isn't something I can respond to...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Wildflower, @Cutiebeauty U2, Wildflower, you, CB and I in bed sex-free...we could have a pillow fight, do each other's nails, discuss weight philosophical issues... we'd probably forget our unclad state after a while...
Cutiebeauty comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I don't think I would ever cuddle naked with someone I wasn't sexual involved with at the time... So the question of refraining from sex isn't something I can respond to...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Wildflower, @Cutiebeauty U2, Wildflower, you, CB and I in bed sex-free...we could have a pillow fight, do each other's nails, discuss weight philosophical issues... we'd probably forget our unclad state after a while...
I have been doing some thinking and as luck would have it, I think there should be more conversation...
Cutiebeauty comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I don't think I would ever cuddle naked with someone I wasn't sexual involved with at the time... So the question of refraining from sex isn't something I can respond to...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Wildflower I think you and I, CB, and a big pile of your photo collection, could hang out naked in bed all day sex-free with NO problem.
Cutiebeauty comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I don't think I would ever cuddle naked with someone I wasn't sexual involved with at the time... So the question of refraining from sex isn't something I can respond to...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Wildflower I think you and I, CB, and a big pile of your photo collection, could hang out naked in bed all day sex-free with NO problem.
I have been doing some thinking and as luck would have it, I think there should be more conversation...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Nukdookum I you want to talk about fantasy, it'd be fascinating to have a party where everybody is naked. No alcohol or drugs. The point of the party is to interact without physical contact involving erogenous zones, genitalia or groping. Just a naked get-together. Signs of arousal would be acceptable but not acted upon.
Would THAT be possible? I guess. Would it accomplish anything? I think the right people could pull it off.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Nukdookum I you want to talk about fantasy, it'd be fascinating to have a party where everybody is naked. No alcohol or drugs. The point of the party is to interact without physical contact involving erogenous zones, genitalia or groping. Just a naked get-together. Signs of arousal would be acceptable but not acted upon.
Would THAT be possible? I guess. Would it accomplish anything? I think the right people could pull it off.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
P53-is-life comments on Mar 24, 2019:
There's no divine punishment for pedophiles who molest children and shooting them frowned upon.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Kafirah I DID think it through. They feel guilty about it. OR they sneak around, live in fear of someone finding out, and eventually get caught. Terrible way to live. Maybe they actually skate right through and die with a smile on their face. I figure that'd be rare.
P53-is-life comments on Mar 24, 2019:
There's no divine punishment for pedophiles who molest children and shooting them frowned upon.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Kafirah I DID think it through. They feel guilty about it. OR they sneak around, live in fear of someone finding out, and eventually get caught. Terrible way to live. Maybe they actually skate right through and die with a smile on their face. I figure that'd be rare.
I have been doing some thinking and as luck would have it, I think there should be more conversation...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Nukdookum Absolutely.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Nukdookum Absolutely.
I have been doing some thinking and as luck would have it, I think there should be more conversation...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Wildflower Okay. It WOULD be an interesting experiment. ESPECIALLY if it were one of the women displayed in all their glory on " classy sexy pics!" It would be like one of the labors of Hercules. Actually it really wouldn't be that big of a deal. No problem. Piece of cake. Just being naked in bed with a stunningly attractive 10 would be something to tell the neighbors boys about around the campfire. Wait, that might get me arrested. No, seriously, I can see the value and utility of it, especially now as a 66-year-old has been who might'nt get it up anyway. No I'd be fine with it. Just the kind of crazy thing I've done all my life anyway.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Wildflower Okay. It WOULD be an interesting experiment. ESPECIALLY if it were one of the women displayed in all their glory on " classy sexy pics!" It would be like one of the labors of Hercules. Actually it really wouldn't be that big of a deal. No problem. Piece of cake. Just being naked in bed with a stunningly attractive 10 would be something to tell the neighbors boys about around the campfire. Wait, that might get me arrested. No, seriously, I can see the value and utility of it, especially now as a 66-year-old has been who might'nt get it up anyway. No I'd be fine with it. Just the kind of crazy thing I've done all my life anyway.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
RandyMoose comments on Mar 24, 2019:
For me it was an existential crisis that lasted for five years. In that time I studied many religions, philosophies and ideas. Finnaly, I embraced nihilism and began to forge my own understanding and meaning for life.
The goal is to learn, to see, to know and to understand.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@RavenCT Right. Excellent point. I was up early and got on a roll. Sorry. I wasn't addressing your question; I was off on a different tangent, different "issue." I'll try to do better.
RandyMoose comments on Mar 24, 2019:
For me it was an existential crisis that lasted for five years. In that time I studied many religions, philosophies and ideas. Finnaly, I embraced nihilism and began to forge my own understanding and meaning for life.
The goal is to learn, to see, to know and to understand.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@RavenCT Right. Excellent point. I was up early and got on a roll. Sorry. I wasn't addressing your question; I was off on a different tangent, different "issue." I'll try to do better.
I have been doing some thinking and as luck would have it, I think there should be more conversation...
Cutiebeauty comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I don't think I would ever cuddle naked with someone I wasn't sexual involved with at the time... So the question of refraining from sex isn't something I can respond to...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty Well that's what I thought, but it appears I'm being out-voted.
Cutiebeauty comments on Mar 25, 2019:
I don't think I would ever cuddle naked with someone I wasn't sexual involved with at the time... So the question of refraining from sex isn't something I can respond to...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty Well that's what I thought, but it appears I'm being out-voted.
I have been doing some thinking and as luck would have it, I think there should be more conversation...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Wildflower Okay as a trust-building exercise, the woman says to the man, "let's get naked and lie on the bed. Spoon and cuddle, but no sex." Right? So the guy says okay, and finds himself on the bed naked with this beautiful woman and touching and hugging and spooning...at some point he goes into the bathroom and masturbates. Would that be okay? Then comes back to bed and is fine? Okay, I can see that. Sounds like a comedy routine, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Forgive me, but this seems like an EXTREMELY unlikely scenario. Why would you be lying naked with someone you don't know that well, in the first place, someone you're sexually attracted to, UNLESS you were intending to have sex? The question is ludicrous. If under such circumstances you DON"T have ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Wildflower Okay as a trust-building exercise, the woman says to the man, "let's get naked and lie on the bed. Spoon and cuddle, but no sex." Right? So the guy says okay, and finds himself on the bed naked with this beautiful woman and touching and hugging and spooning...at some point he goes into the bathroom and masturbates. Would that be okay? Then comes back to bed and is fine? Okay, I can see that. Sounds like a comedy routine, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
Shouldbefishing comments on Mar 24, 2019:
The problem wasn't mine, but other's inability to accept me despite my disbelief. In the Bible Belt it's more acceptable for a gay man or a lesbian to "come out of the closet" than it is to declare yourself an atheist. The reason I suppose is that most believers still feel that homosexuality is ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Shouldbefishing You're forgiven.
Shouldbefishing comments on Mar 24, 2019:
The problem wasn't mine, but other's inability to accept me despite my disbelief. In the Bible Belt it's more acceptable for a gay man or a lesbian to "come out of the closet" than it is to declare yourself an atheist. The reason I suppose is that most believers still feel that homosexuality is ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Shouldbefishing You're forgiven.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
RandyMoose comments on Mar 24, 2019:
For me it was an existential crisis that lasted for five years. In that time I studied many religions, philosophies and ideas. Finnaly, I embraced nihilism and began to forge my own understanding and meaning for life.
The goal is to learn, to see, to know and to understand.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@RandyMoose Sorry, I meant that to say, 'anything.' It's very possible life has no meaning; on the other hand maybe it does, we just don't know what it is. It sure feels like it has meaning. To us, individually.
RandyMoose comments on Mar 24, 2019:
For me it was an existential crisis that lasted for five years. In that time I studied many religions, philosophies and ideas. Finnaly, I embraced nihilism and began to forge my own understanding and meaning for life.
The goal is to learn, to see, to know and to understand.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@RandyMoose Sorry, I meant that to say, 'anything.' It's very possible life has no meaning; on the other hand maybe it does, we just don't know what it is. It sure feels like it has meaning. To us, individually.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
Shouldbefishing comments on Mar 24, 2019:
The problem wasn't mine, but other's inability to accept me despite my disbelief. In the Bible Belt it's more acceptable for a gay man or a lesbian to "come out of the closet" than it is to declare yourself an atheist. The reason I suppose is that most believers still feel that homosexuality is ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Shouldbefishing Well you said it was the hardest thing for you to accept.
Shouldbefishing comments on Mar 24, 2019:
The problem wasn't mine, but other's inability to accept me despite my disbelief. In the Bible Belt it's more acceptable for a gay man or a lesbian to "come out of the closet" than it is to declare yourself an atheist. The reason I suppose is that most believers still feel that homosexuality is ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Shouldbefishing Well you said it was the hardest thing for you to accept.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
RandyMoose comments on Mar 24, 2019:
For me it was an existential crisis that lasted for five years. In that time I studied many religions, philosophies and ideas. Finnaly, I embraced nihilism and began to forge my own understanding and meaning for life.
The goal is to learn, to see, to know and to understand.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Nihilism is like a porcupine. It can't be embraced. You don't know sh*t. You're agnostic.
RandyMoose comments on Mar 24, 2019:
For me it was an existential crisis that lasted for five years. In that time I studied many religions, philosophies and ideas. Finnaly, I embraced nihilism and began to forge my own understanding and meaning for life.
The goal is to learn, to see, to know and to understand.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Nihilism is like a porcupine. It can't be embraced. You don't know sh*t. You're agnostic.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
Santanaman9 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
For me - it was the realization that there was no "safety net". No heaven. If I was wrong in my decision, then so be it.
Which was better than living a lie...
Another part was the loss of my best friend after I shared my conviction. Harsh awakening, but important for my development. I realized...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
If you still think you may be wrong, you're agnostic, not atheist.
Santanaman9 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
For me - it was the realization that there was no "safety net". No heaven. If I was wrong in my decision, then so be it.
Which was better than living a lie...
Another part was the loss of my best friend after I shared my conviction. Harsh awakening, but important for my development. I realized...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
If you still think you may be wrong, you're agnostic, not atheist.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
P53-is-life comments on Mar 24, 2019:
There's no divine punishment for pedophiles who molest children and shooting them frowned upon.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Their Worst punishment is just being themselves.
P53-is-life comments on Mar 24, 2019:
There's no divine punishment for pedophiles who molest children and shooting them frowned upon.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Their Worst punishment is just being themselves.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
Shouldbefishing comments on Mar 24, 2019:
The problem wasn't mine, but other's inability to accept me despite my disbelief. In the Bible Belt it's more acceptable for a gay man or a lesbian to "come out of the closet" than it is to declare yourself an atheist. The reason I suppose is that most believers still feel that homosexuality is ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Why do you care if they accept you? Fuck 'em!
Shouldbefishing comments on Mar 24, 2019:
The problem wasn't mine, but other's inability to accept me despite my disbelief. In the Bible Belt it's more acceptable for a gay man or a lesbian to "come out of the closet" than it is to declare yourself an atheist. The reason I suppose is that most believers still feel that homosexuality is ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Why do you care if they accept you? Fuck 'em!
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
JohnWay comments on Mar 24, 2019:
You nailed it for me, too, just add the loss of friends who would not accept you even as a friend if you didn't believe in god.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Who cares? They're ignorant idiots!
JohnWay comments on Mar 24, 2019:
You nailed it for me, too, just add the loss of friends who would not accept you even as a friend if you didn't believe in god.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Who cares? They're ignorant idiots!
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
DavidDeLa89 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
I was raised I was raised Christian . I beleieved with all of my heart that god was real and that I’d see lost loved ones and friends again after death. So when they died it cheered me up knowing I’d see them again ( or so I thought at the time ) . I prayed and went to church got the motivation ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Well, you can always go back to believing...what difference does it make? Or, believe there's an afterlife. Hey, there MAY be! There MAY be a God, for all you know! Prove there isn't! Quit sweating it! No big deal!
DavidDeLa89 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
I was raised I was raised Christian . I beleieved with all of my heart that god was real and that I’d see lost loved ones and friends again after death. So when they died it cheered me up knowing I’d see them again ( or so I thought at the time ) . I prayed and went to church got the motivation ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Well, you can always go back to believing...what difference does it make? Or, believe there's an afterlife. Hey, there MAY be! There MAY be a God, for all you know! Prove there isn't! Quit sweating it! No big deal!
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
Biosteelman comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Haven't made it that far but as an agnostic I fear death
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Biosteelman As it is you'll be experiencing what EVERY human being, in fact every living thing, has experienced from the beginning of the universe. But, I do know what you mean!
But I think there may be an afterlife, anyway.
Biosteelman comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Haven't made it that far but as an agnostic I fear death
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Biosteelman As it is you'll be experiencing what EVERY human being, in fact every living thing, has experienced from the beginning of the universe. But, I do know what you mean!
But I think there may be an afterlife, anyway.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
Biosteelman comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Haven't made it that far but as an agnostic I fear death
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Biosteelman If you were a believer you'd fear hell if you were a Christian or a Muslim.
Biosteelman comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Haven't made it that far but as an agnostic I fear death
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
@Biosteelman If you were a believer you'd fear hell if you were a Christian or a Muslim.
Bad news for meat eaters.
Captain_Feelgood comments on Mar 24, 2019:
I've been through this, about 4 years ago.. University of Virginia, I think it was... did a study on it.. I can tell you it sucks. It took about a month and a half to get over it the first time. A month the second time I got bit. I found that eating a small amount of beef or pork didn't send me into...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Why not just stop eating meat?
Captain_Feelgood comments on Mar 24, 2019:
I've been through this, about 4 years ago.. University of Virginia, I think it was... did a study on it.. I can tell you it sucks. It took about a month and a half to get over it the first time. A month the second time I got bit. I found that eating a small amount of beef or pork didn't send me into...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Why not just stop eating meat?
Bad news for meat eaters.
Healthydoc70 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
@JackPedigo-maybe nature is trying to tell us something?? Ever hear of the food chain? Humans are part of the food chain. When Nile crocodiles eat wildebeast or zebras, is nature trying to tell us something? When the parasitic wasp stings and paralyzes a tarantula, lays eggs that hatch and the ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Not sure I get your point.
Healthydoc70 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
@JackPedigo-maybe nature is trying to tell us something?? Ever hear of the food chain? Humans are part of the food chain. When Nile crocodiles eat wildebeast or zebras, is nature trying to tell us something? When the parasitic wasp stings and paralyzes a tarantula, lays eggs that hatch and the ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Not sure I get your point.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
QuidamOutrepont comments on Mar 24, 2019:
It's the concept of souls and afterlife that took me the longest to get rid of.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Who's to say if there's an afterlife, or not?
QuidamOutrepont comments on Mar 24, 2019:
It's the concept of souls and afterlife that took me the longest to get rid of.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Who's to say if there's an afterlife, or not?
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
DavidDeLa89 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
I was raised I was raised Christian . I beleieved with all of my heart that god was real and that I’d see lost loved ones and friends again after death. So when they died it cheered me up knowing I’d see them again ( or so I thought at the time ) . I prayed and went to church got the motivation ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
You have no idea if there is some sort of God or afterlife or NOT! I personally don't believe in God, but there's always the possibility SOME sort of "god" exists. Similarly, there may be reincarnation; plenty if circumstantial evidence for that. You're just another type of idealist if you make absolutist claims like that.
DavidDeLa89 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
I was raised I was raised Christian . I beleieved with all of my heart that god was real and that I’d see lost loved ones and friends again after death. So when they died it cheered me up knowing I’d see them again ( or so I thought at the time ) . I prayed and went to church got the motivation ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
You have no idea if there is some sort of God or afterlife or NOT! I personally don't believe in God, but there's always the possibility SOME sort of "god" exists. Similarly, there may be reincarnation; plenty if circumstantial evidence for that. You're just another type of idealist if you make absolutist claims like that.
Atheists, what was the hardest thing to accept when you became atheist?
Biosteelman comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Haven't made it that far but as an agnostic I fear death
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Then ARE you agnostic, if you fear death? Sounds like you're still a semi-believer in the God of fire and brimstone! I may leave open a possibility in SOME kind of "god," but I am convinced 100% there is no hell.
Biosteelman comments on Mar 25, 2019:
Haven't made it that far but as an agnostic I fear death
Storm1752 replies on Mar 25, 2019:
Then ARE you agnostic, if you fear death? Sounds like you're still a semi-believer in the God of fire and brimstone! I may leave open a possibility in SOME kind of "god," but I am convinced 100% there is no hell.
Why I Love Agnostic.
RavenCT comments on Mar 24, 2019:
To shed light on it - we are also a dating site. If there were that much misogyny - they'd be done.
There is some. But hey we do have a block feature. (Use it).
There's still plenty of people to talk to without that nonsense.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 24, 2019:
This is a dating site?
RavenCT comments on Mar 24, 2019:
To shed light on it - we are also a dating site. If there were that much misogyny - they'd be done.
There is some. But hey we do have a block feature. (Use it).
There's still plenty of people to talk to without that nonsense.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 24, 2019:
This is a dating site?
the other night i went out with this guy, and the night started out great.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
What was the disagreement specifically about, just out of curiousity?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 24, 2019:
@coralisthree The only "loss" was your sexual frustration and lack of satisfaction. That's a downright crime.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
What was the disagreement specifically about, just out of curiousity?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 24, 2019:
@coralisthree The only "loss" was your sexual frustration and lack of satisfaction. That's a downright crime.
the other night i went out with this guy, and the night started out great.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
What was the disagreement specifically about, just out of curiousity?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 24, 2019:
@coralisthree Well then he IS an asshole and I'm surprised you stayed as long as you did.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
What was the disagreement specifically about, just out of curiousity?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 24, 2019:
@coralisthree Well then he IS an asshole and I'm surprised you stayed as long as you did.
the other night i went out with this guy, and the night started out great.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
What was the disagreement specifically about, just out of curiousity?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 24, 2019:
Is he anti-gay or something?
Storm1752 comments on Mar 24, 2019:
What was the disagreement specifically about, just out of curiousity?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 24, 2019:
Is he anti-gay or something?
It's Friday! Time for the weekend and all the play you can handle! What are your plans for the ...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
Besides watching lesbian porn, you mean? Oh, finishing painting my RV, having my friend over to watch library movie dvds, tennis, grocery shopping, bowling, the usual. Kinda fun.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@Wildflower Plus I checked out The Danish Girl from the library. So I'm all set.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
Besides watching lesbian porn, you mean? Oh, finishing painting my RV, having my friend over to watch library movie dvds, tennis, grocery shopping, bowling, the usual. Kinda fun.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@Wildflower Plus I checked out The Danish Girl from the library. So I'm all set.
Will they ever get tired of "atheism is just another religion" argument?
Storm1752 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
Atheism IS a belief system. It is a belief IN the non-existence of god.
An agnostic doesn't KNOW if there is a God, or not.
I believe if there IS a God, it is not a supernatural entity with consciousness. But I don't KNOW that.
But yes I'm tired of the whole debate, and I believe it doesn't ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@Bobby9 Fine. You win.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
Atheism IS a belief system. It is a belief IN the non-existence of god.
An agnostic doesn't KNOW if there is a God, or not.
I believe if there IS a God, it is not a supernatural entity with consciousness. But I don't KNOW that.
But yes I'm tired of the whole debate, and I believe it doesn't ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@Bobby9 Fine. You win.
It's Friday! Time for the weekend and all the play you can handle! What are your plans for the ...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
Besides watching lesbian porn, you mean? Oh, finishing painting my RV, having my friend over to watch library movie dvds, tennis, grocery shopping, bowling, the usual. Kinda fun.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@Wildflower It usually takes a while to find one with a good plot.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
Besides watching lesbian porn, you mean? Oh, finishing painting my RV, having my friend over to watch library movie dvds, tennis, grocery shopping, bowling, the usual. Kinda fun.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@Wildflower It usually takes a while to find one with a good plot.
It's Friday! Time for the weekend and all the play you can handle! What are your plans for the ...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
Besides watching lesbian porn, you mean? Oh, finishing painting my RV, having my friend over to watch library movie dvds, tennis, grocery shopping, bowling, the usual. Kinda fun.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@Wildflower Maybe. But I usually save that for later.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
Besides watching lesbian porn, you mean? Oh, finishing painting my RV, having my friend over to watch library movie dvds, tennis, grocery shopping, bowling, the usual. Kinda fun.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@Wildflower Maybe. But I usually save that for later.
Ok, I'll bite. If a lie will give you peace when you die, do you want it?
silverotter11 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
My mom was a chronic liar. I do not know why a person lies, just look at what is happening in politics. Many have just lost their inner compass and fear of losing their position means any lie that keeps their money and power will spew outta their mouths.
When you are told never lie to me but ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@silverotter11 Gotcha!
silverotter11 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
My mom was a chronic liar. I do not know why a person lies, just look at what is happening in politics. Many have just lost their inner compass and fear of losing their position means any lie that keeps their money and power will spew outta their mouths.
When you are told never lie to me but ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@silverotter11 Gotcha!
Ok, I'll bite. If a lie will give you peace when you die, do you want it?
silverotter11 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
My mom was a chronic liar. I do not know why a person lies, just look at what is happening in politics. Many have just lost their inner compass and fear of losing their position means any lie that keeps their money and power will spew outta their mouths.
When you are told never lie to me but ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
Yes, but if your mom wasn't a chronic liar, but just told "little white lies" to kindly do what she thought would help someone else, would that have made a difference? You'll probably say no and I respect that. Just curious.
silverotter11 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
My mom was a chronic liar. I do not know why a person lies, just look at what is happening in politics. Many have just lost their inner compass and fear of losing their position means any lie that keeps their money and power will spew outta their mouths.
When you are told never lie to me but ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
Yes, but if your mom wasn't a chronic liar, but just told "little white lies" to kindly do what she thought would help someone else, would that have made a difference? You'll probably say no and I respect that. Just curious.
Will they ever get tired of "atheism is just another religion" argument?
Storm1752 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
Atheism IS a belief system. It is a belief IN the non-existence of god.
An agnostic doesn't KNOW if there is a God, or not.
I believe if there IS a God, it is not a supernatural entity with consciousness. But I don't KNOW that.
But yes I'm tired of the whole debate, and I believe it doesn't ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@Bobby9 And so on and so forth...lol...the eternal debate goes on...!
Storm1752 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
Atheism IS a belief system. It is a belief IN the non-existence of god.
An agnostic doesn't KNOW if there is a God, or not.
I believe if there IS a God, it is not a supernatural entity with consciousness. But I don't KNOW that.
But yes I'm tired of the whole debate, and I believe it doesn't ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@Bobby9 And so on and so forth...lol...the eternal debate goes on...!
Good morning all! If anyone has a question for the group, please go for it!
ugly comments on Mar 22, 2019:
WHY ?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
Why not?
ugly comments on Mar 22, 2019:
WHY ?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
Why not?
New Zealand’s liberal prime minister wants all gun owners to surrender their weapons.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Shouldn't have let them in in the first place.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty Thank YOU for accepting it, and not beating a dead horse. We die soon enough; no need for anyone to speed up the process.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Shouldn't have let them in in the first place.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty Thank YOU for accepting it, and not beating a dead horse. We die soon enough; no need for anyone to speed up the process.
So, as I rattle around here in the bowels of this beast during half time of the various first 4 ...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
Atheist--doesn't believe in God, which means he believes in not believing.
Agnostic--doesn't know
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@Elganned I don't believe, or not believe. I'm not an atheist, because I don't claim there is no God, just not a supernatural ENTITY with consciousness. Nut, I'm tired of debating it, and I don't believe it matters what any of us think. If there is an afterlife and/or reincarnation, there certainly is no hell it heaven.You'll be "rewarded" by progressing in your spiritual journey or be "punished" by regressing. No God. Or, you'll simply cease to exist. Or maybe there is some sort of "god.". Who knows? But no matter the case, no need to worry, or be frightened, by the future. Does a squirrel worry? Is a bear frightened? Does a stalk of corn spend a lot of time thinking about it? No. And neither do I.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 22, 2019:
Atheist--doesn't believe in God, which means he believes in not believing.
Agnostic--doesn't know
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
@Elganned I don't believe, or not believe. I'm not an atheist, because I don't claim there is no God, just not a supernatural ENTITY with consciousness. Nut, I'm tired of debating it, and I don't believe it matters what any of us think. If there is an afterlife and/or reincarnation, there certainly is no hell it heaven.You'll be "rewarded" by progressing in your spiritual journey or be "punished" by regressing. No God. Or, you'll simply cease to exist. Or maybe there is some sort of "god.". Who knows? But no matter the case, no need to worry, or be frightened, by the future. Does a squirrel worry? Is a bear frightened? Does a stalk of corn spend a lot of time thinking about it? No. And neither do I.
Will they ever get tired of "atheism is just another religion" argument?
Marionville comments on Mar 21, 2019:
By “they” I presume you mean all those who are not atheists....in fact everyone except us. I don’t really care what they say about atheism, it’s not important. We know that it isn’t a religion, it’s not an organisation, it doesn’t have a deity, we don’t worship, we don’t ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
Amen!
Marionville comments on Mar 21, 2019:
By “they” I presume you mean all those who are not atheists....in fact everyone except us. I don’t really care what they say about atheism, it’s not important. We know that it isn’t a religion, it’s not an organisation, it doesn’t have a deity, we don’t worship, we don’t ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
Amen!
Will they ever get tired of "atheism is just another religion" argument?
GeorgeRocheleau comments on Mar 21, 2019:
If it's just another religion, when can we start The Inquisition?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
Communism (Stalinism, Khmer Rouge, etc.) already tried Inquisitions. They didn't work. Hopefully they ARE right religion will eventually just wither away.
GeorgeRocheleau comments on Mar 21, 2019:
If it's just another religion, when can we start The Inquisition?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
Communism (Stalinism, Khmer Rouge, etc.) already tried Inquisitions. They didn't work. Hopefully they ARE right religion will eventually just wither away.
A question for strong supporters of the state of Israel.
KKGator comments on Mar 19, 2019:
Judaism is a religion. Practitioners of judaism are called "jews".
Israel calls itself a "jewish" state, ergo, it is a theocracy.
Israel spends an awful lot of money buying influence and favor in the US.
Israel has an abysmal human rights record.
Personally, I don't think the US ought to be ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
One last few things: 1) Israel is NOT a theocracy, it is a democracy which has to do certain things to survive, like restrict it's voting population. If it didn't, it would cease to exist, 2) You said you were "anti-Israel." Okay. That's a legitimate position. You don't have to be an Islamic terrorist to feel that way. I would have rather they were never born into existence. Would have saved the world a lot of grief. BUT THEY WERE, AND HERE THEY ARE. And, they are not going anywhere. You, I, and everybody else has to deal with that fact. And since they ARE here, I support their right to exist. Hey, all countries were formed somehow. Look back a thousand years, or two, or three, and see how different national borders were back then. National boundaries change over time. Who knows what they will look like a thousand years from now? So, in the end, does it really matter? 50 years from now we will both be dead. Will it matter to us then, this bullshit problem these bullshit religions are having with one another? I don't follow the news. This territorial and religious dispute has absolutely nothing to do with me. I have an opinion which doesn't matter even to me. So if you want me to shove it up my ass, I will do so gladly. Have a nice day.
KKGator comments on Mar 19, 2019:
Judaism is a religion. Practitioners of judaism are called "jews".
Israel calls itself a "jewish" state, ergo, it is a theocracy.
Israel spends an awful lot of money buying influence and favor in the US.
Israel has an abysmal human rights record.
Personally, I don't think the US ought to be ...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 22, 2019:
One last few things: 1) Israel is NOT a theocracy, it is a democracy which has to do certain things to survive, like restrict it's voting population. If it didn't, it would cease to exist, 2) You said you were "anti-Israel." Okay. That's a legitimate position. You don't have to be an Islamic terrorist to feel that way. I would have rather they were never born into existence. Would have saved the world a lot of grief. BUT THEY WERE, AND HERE THEY ARE. And, they are not going anywhere. You, I, and everybody else has to deal with that fact. And since they ARE here, I support their right to exist. Hey, all countries were formed somehow. Look back a thousand years, or two, or three, and see how different national borders were back then. National boundaries change over time. Who knows what they will look like a thousand years from now? So, in the end, does it really matter? 50 years from now we will both be dead. Will it matter to us then, this bullshit problem these bullshit religions are having with one another? I don't follow the news. This territorial and religious dispute has absolutely nothing to do with me. I have an opinion which doesn't matter even to me. So if you want me to shove it up my ass, I will do so gladly. Have a nice day.
New Zealand’s liberal prime minister wants all gun owners to surrender their weapons.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Shouldn't have let them in in the first place.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty I don't pay attention and I do it deliberately, like I said, so you see my remark really had nothing to do with the New Zealand massacre. So it was out of place. I'm certainly not in favor of white supremacists, period, let alone killing a mosque full of innocent people. True belief in ANYTHING, whether it's Allah or white people or Christ, or you name it, categorizes, labels, and divides. Which is why I usually stay away from things like this. And I regret doing so here.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Shouldn't have let them in in the first place.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty I don't pay attention and I do it deliberately, like I said, so you see my remark really had nothing to do with the New Zealand massacre. So it was out of place. I'm certainly not in favor of white supremacists, period, let alone killing a mosque full of innocent people. True belief in ANYTHING, whether it's Allah or white people or Christ, or you name it, categorizes, labels, and divides. Which is why I usually stay away from things like this. And I regret doing so here.
New Zealand’s liberal prime minister wants all gun owners to surrender their weapons.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Shouldn't have let them in in the first place.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty I don't follow the news AT ALL (deliberately). All I knew was there was a shooting in New Zealand. I was making a blanket remark which applies to all non-Muslim countries: Islam is a hostile religion much like Christianity has been and still is in it's most virulent forms. I feel for Europe right now. This is one issue I disagree with the Democrats. Keep them out.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Shouldn't have let them in in the first place.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty I don't follow the news AT ALL (deliberately). All I knew was there was a shooting in New Zealand. I was making a blanket remark which applies to all non-Muslim countries: Islam is a hostile religion much like Christianity has been and still is in it's most virulent forms. I feel for Europe right now. This is one issue I disagree with the Democrats. Keep them out.
We’ve been led to believe that men think about sex a great deal more than they actually do.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 21, 2019:
I think about finding a girlfriend, after a long hiatus, MUCH more than sex! That's just one variable, and not the main one. I KID about it, 'cause men are supposed to, but sex can be a chore if not done right. Women need to think about that. I am not atypical. At least I doubt it.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
Also, most women, it seems to me, wait for the man to make the first "move." The men who approach them are usually highly-sexed, high-testosterone, "alpha male" macho ducks who probably ARE just interested in sex, or are sociopaths skilled at putting on a false front and are not bothered by rejection anyway, or genuinely charismatic guys who just naturally disarm a female. They are successful at the "hunt" so often don't bother with anything deeper. The retiring, less charismatic types whose feelings are easily hurt learn quickly to shy away. So women do not as often get to know them. This type are more interested in relationships, less interested in sex for sex's sake. A gross generalization poorly articulated, yes, but some truth there.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 21, 2019:
I think about finding a girlfriend, after a long hiatus, MUCH more than sex! That's just one variable, and not the main one. I KID about it, 'cause men are supposed to, but sex can be a chore if not done right. Women need to think about that. I am not atypical. At least I doubt it.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
Also, most women, it seems to me, wait for the man to make the first "move." The men who approach them are usually highly-sexed, high-testosterone, "alpha male" macho ducks who probably ARE just interested in sex, or are sociopaths skilled at putting on a false front and are not bothered by rejection anyway, or genuinely charismatic guys who just naturally disarm a female. They are successful at the "hunt" so often don't bother with anything deeper. The retiring, less charismatic types whose feelings are easily hurt learn quickly to shy away. So women do not as often get to know them. This type are more interested in relationships, less interested in sex for sex's sake. A gross generalization poorly articulated, yes, but some truth there.
New Zealand’s liberal prime minister wants all gun owners to surrender their weapons.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Shouldn't have let them in in the first place.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty Excuse me? Victims? Terrorists are victims? Aussie Nazis? What are you talking about. No, really. I must be misunderstanding your point. Explain what you mean. Clarity always helps. Flippant remarks without telling us exactly what you are saying is the antithesis of communication. I'm saying this politely with all due respect.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Shouldn't have let them in in the first place.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty Excuse me? Victims? Terrorists are victims? Aussie Nazis? What are you talking about. No, really. I must be misunderstanding your point. Explain what you mean. Clarity always helps. Flippant remarks without telling us exactly what you are saying is the antithesis of communication. I'm saying this politely with all due respect.
Is it Friday yet!? Welcome to @absaluteviktory5 and @RDGJacobs. Happy to have you here!
Storm1752 comments on Mar 21, 2019:
La Femme Boheme wishes you a most orgiastic and fruitful day. Be merry and multiply, on this the first day of the rest of your life! May many Merry Fridays be in your giddily ecstatic agnostic, partying lives!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
@Donotbelieve You just did!
Storm1752 comments on Mar 21, 2019:
La Femme Boheme wishes you a most orgiastic and fruitful day. Be merry and multiply, on this the first day of the rest of your life! May many Merry Fridays be in your giddily ecstatic agnostic, partying lives!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
@Donotbelieve You just did!
Is it Friday yet!? Welcome to @absaluteviktory5 and @RDGJacobs. Happy to have you here!
Charlene comments on Mar 21, 2019:
Velcumen, bien veneu, welcum to cabaret, au cabaret, aus cabareeeet!...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
That's what life is! Au cabaret!
Charlene comments on Mar 21, 2019:
Velcumen, bien veneu, welcum to cabaret, au cabaret, aus cabareeeet!...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
That's what life is! Au cabaret!
Is it Friday yet!? Welcome to @absaluteviktory5 and @RDGJacobs. Happy to have you here!
Charlene comments on Mar 21, 2019:
Velcumen, bien veneu, welcum to cabaret, au cabaret, aus cabareeeet!...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
Thank you, though I blew it by mixing singular and plural.
Have a toga party (toga optional) and dance the day away! Women unite! Throw off the patriarchy and take your rightful place at the very apex of creation! It is indeed a fine day to be a Woman!(Even though I'm not, I stand in solidarity!)
Charlene comments on Mar 21, 2019:
Velcumen, bien veneu, welcum to cabaret, au cabaret, aus cabareeeet!...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
Thank you, though I blew it by mixing singular and plural.
Have a toga party (toga optional) and dance the day away! Women unite! Throw off the patriarchy and take your rightful place at the very apex of creation! It is indeed a fine day to be a Woman!(Even though I'm not, I stand in solidarity!)
A question for strong supporters of the state of Israel.
Jolanta comments on Mar 19, 2019:
Give it back to the Palestinians if you cannot live in peace with the people who have been there for yonks.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
I'm sorry for calling your answer 'ignorant.' By doing so I was indirectly calling YOU ignorant, and no one deserves to be unduly insulted. I am just so frustrated at some people's attitudes toward Israel, which is basically, if you strip away much of the verbiage, Israel does NOT have a right to exist, that their creation in 1948 was a travesty. Well then, just say so. According to them, they should just pack up and leave. And I will agree it was unfortunate. Like many of the arbitrary borders created by the colonialist as the dismantled their empires, it caused more harm than good. The Palestinians were displaced and their neighbors refused to assimilate them, choosing instead to house them in permanent refugee camps. That also was a travesty, but perhaps an understandable one. It should be clear by now most Muslims will never accept the existence of the Jewish state. If it takes 100 years, or a thousand, they will defeat them. Hey, they still have designs on, say Spain, which was Muslim for hundreds of years. Islam NEVER accepts defeat. A conquered territory is always considered sacred ground. It's an attitude enshrined in the Koran. It's ridiculous, but all religion is ridiculous, and as we know is used by "pious" men to cause much bloodshed and grief. The Christian's destroyed the civilizations of North and South America and elsewhere. They REALLY wanted the land and its treasure, but insisted in part it was to "save" the indigenous peoples. Talk about hypocrisy!
Israel, however, is different in this sense: it is not just a distinct culture, a "people," it is also a religion. Because the New Testament, probably authored by Roman's to destroy them because their instransgience to their rule, blamed them for the death of "Christ" (who never existed), after they brutally massacred many of them and dispersed them, replacing them with a Rome-friendly fiction. This has resulted in their persecution throughout the centuries in the Christian world, culminating in the Holocaust. Ironically, Hitler may have actually done them a "favor" by once and for all making it clear they'd never be accepted in "Christ-"obsessed Christendom. Should have then moved them to some unoccupied land somewhere (if such a land existed)? Well, yes, maybe, It's debatable. It would've spared the world the present conflict. But the Jews themselves wouldn't have been too happy about it!
But they didn't. They shipped them back to the Middle East, and there remain, a successful, vibrant liberal democracy right dab in the middle of Allah Country! Great. Just great. Now what? THEY ain't going nowhere! But the Arabs say, oh yes they are! You can just forget the "peace process;" it's a joke and always been. An indestructible Scorpion in a glass box with an invincible Mongoose, forever ...
Jolanta comments on Mar 19, 2019:
Give it back to the Palestinians if you cannot live in peace with the people who have been there for yonks.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
I'm sorry for calling your answer 'ignorant.' By doing so I was indirectly calling YOU ignorant, and no one deserves to be unduly insulted. I am just so frustrated at some people's attitudes toward Israel, which is basically, if you strip away much of the verbiage, Israel does NOT have a right to exist, that their creation in 1948 was a travesty. Well then, just say so. According to them, they should just pack up and leave. And I will agree it was unfortunate. Like many of the arbitrary borders created by the colonialist as the dismantled their empires, it caused more harm than good. The Palestinians were displaced and their neighbors refused to assimilate them, choosing instead to house them in permanent refugee camps. That also was a travesty, but perhaps an understandable one. It should be clear by now most Muslims will never accept the existence of the Jewish state. If it takes 100 years, or a thousand, they will defeat them. Hey, they still have designs on, say Spain, which was Muslim for hundreds of years. Islam NEVER accepts defeat. A conquered territory is always considered sacred ground. It's an attitude enshrined in the Koran. It's ridiculous, but all religion is ridiculous, and as we know is used by "pious" men to cause much bloodshed and grief. The Christian's destroyed the civilizations of North and South America and elsewhere. They REALLY wanted the land and its treasure, but insisted in part it was to "save" the indigenous peoples. Talk about hypocrisy!
Israel, however, is different in this sense: it is not just a distinct culture, a "people," it is also a religion. Because the New Testament, probably authored by Roman's to destroy them because their instransgience to their rule, blamed them for the death of "Christ" (who never existed), after they brutally massacred many of them and dispersed them, replacing them with a Rome-friendly fiction. This has resulted in their persecution throughout the centuries in the Christian world, culminating in the Holocaust. Ironically, Hitler may have actually done them a "favor" by once and for all making it clear they'd never be accepted in "Christ-"obsessed Christendom. Should have then moved them to some unoccupied land somewhere (if such a land existed)? Well, yes, maybe, It's debatable. It would've spared the world the present conflict. But the Jews themselves wouldn't have been too happy about it!
But they didn't. They shipped them back to the Middle East, and there remain, a successful, vibrant liberal democracy right dab in the middle of Allah Country! Great. Just great. Now what? THEY ain't going nowhere! But the Arabs say, oh yes they are! You can just forget the "peace process;" it's a joke and always been. An indestructible Scorpion in a glass box with an invincible Mongoose, forever ...
Anybody got anything for a head change... and I don't mean change it from mine to yours
Storm1752 comments on Mar 19, 2019:
What do you mean by head change?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
@misterinvisible I asked you what head change was, and you said not drinking to drinking, as if, "What's the cure?" I must've misunderstood!
Storm1752 comments on Mar 19, 2019:
What do you mean by head change?
Storm1752 replies on Mar 21, 2019:
@misterinvisible I asked you what head change was, and you said not drinking to drinking, as if, "What's the cure?" I must've misunderstood!
What are the general rules you follow while dating or seeking a date?
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Yeah dating a friends friends is out. She has to be AT LEAST as good-looking as my best-looking ex. She has to at least look in my direction twice. If I look back and she smiles it's a go.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
I did it again...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Yeah dating a friends friends is out. She has to be AT LEAST as good-looking as my best-looking ex. She has to at least look in my direction twice. If I look back and she smiles it's a go.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
I did it again...
Hmmm.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Of course. Doing the right thing is always a good thing no matter what the reason. Well, probably not true. But better than doing the wrong thing, regardless!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
Oh. Already said that...
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Of course. Doing the right thing is always a good thing no matter what the reason. Well, probably not true. But better than doing the wrong thing, regardless!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
Oh. Already said that...
A question for strong supporters of the state of Israel.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Are you a supporter of terrorism? Not saying you are. Just answer the question.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
@powder I don't know. All good points. I'm tired of talking about it and I've been painting all day. Just glad I'm not in the middle of it.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Are you a supporter of terrorism? Not saying you are. Just answer the question.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
@powder I don't know. All good points. I'm tired of talking about it and I've been painting all day. Just glad I'm not in the middle of it.
maybe it's because i'm more confident over all at 34 then say, 20, but i am fuckin popular on POF.
mischl comments on Mar 18, 2019:
Isn't being a woman NICE, after all? At the physical level at least, you carry the prize that most men are seeking. In my next incarnation, I think I'd like to choose the female life.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
A LESBIAN hot chick. Or bi'd be okay too.
mischl comments on Mar 18, 2019:
Isn't being a woman NICE, after all? At the physical level at least, you carry the prize that most men are seeking. In my next incarnation, I think I'd like to choose the female life.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
A LESBIAN hot chick. Or bi'd be okay too.
maybe it's because i'm more confident over all at 34 then say, 20, but i am fuckin popular on POF.
mischl comments on Mar 18, 2019:
Isn't being a woman NICE, after all? At the physical level at least, you carry the prize that most men are seeking. In my next incarnation, I think I'd like to choose the female life.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
Yes, I want to be a hot chick next time.
mischl comments on Mar 18, 2019:
Isn't being a woman NICE, after all? At the physical level at least, you carry the prize that most men are seeking. In my next incarnation, I think I'd like to choose the female life.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
Yes, I want to be a hot chick next time.
A question for strong supporters of the state of Israel.
Clare comments on Mar 19, 2019:
Their shit hole book or scrolls. The Hebrews have always been a warrior breed of people.
To discuss this shit puts you in a catch 22, saying anything against the Israel state makes you antisemitic and not anything also puts you in agreement. I hate the way they have it set up.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
@Gooniesnvrdie Lots of Jewish atheists. Few or none elsewhere over there. They'd have them for lunch.
Clare comments on Mar 19, 2019:
Their shit hole book or scrolls. The Hebrews have always been a warrior breed of people.
To discuss this shit puts you in a catch 22, saying anything against the Israel state makes you antisemitic and not anything also puts you in agreement. I hate the way they have it set up.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
@Gooniesnvrdie Lots of Jewish atheists. Few or none elsewhere over there. They'd have them for lunch.
A question for strong supporters of the state of Israel.
Clare comments on Mar 19, 2019:
Their shit hole book or scrolls. The Hebrews have always been a warrior breed of people.
To discuss this shit puts you in a catch 22, saying anything against the Israel state makes you antisemitic and not anything also puts you in agreement. I hate the way they have it set up.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
@Gooniesnvrdie I know lots of Jewush atheists. There's plenty in Israel. How many do you suppose there in Iran, or Saudi Arabia, etc.? If there are any, they're in hiding, because they tear them apart over there.
Clare comments on Mar 19, 2019:
Their shit hole book or scrolls. The Hebrews have always been a warrior breed of people.
To discuss this shit puts you in a catch 22, saying anything against the Israel state makes you antisemitic and not anything also puts you in agreement. I hate the way they have it set up.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
@Gooniesnvrdie I know lots of Jewush atheists. There's plenty in Israel. How many do you suppose there in Iran, or Saudi Arabia, etc.? If there are any, they're in hiding, because they tear them apart over there.
Good morning! It's the first day of Spring! I love Spring.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Good morning!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
"Je amour tu."
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Good morning!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
"Je amour tu."
Good morning! It's the first day of Spring! I love Spring.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Good morning!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
"Vous voyez le coucher avec moii?"
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Good morning!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
"Vous voyez le coucher avec moii?"
Good morning! It's the first day of Spring! I love Spring.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Good morning!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
"Ah, la femme boheme, madmoiselle?"
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Good morning!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
"Ah, la femme boheme, madmoiselle?"
Good morning! It's the first day of Spring! I love Spring.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Good morning!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
How do you approach a slut?
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Good morning!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
How do you approach a slut?
Good morning! It's the first day of Spring! I love Spring.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Good morning!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
We gotta get somethin' goin'.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Good morning!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
We gotta get somethin' goin'.
Good morning! It's the first day of Spring! I love Spring.
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Good morning!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
What's the buzz?
Storm1752 comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Good morning!
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
What's the buzz?
Hello. How r u?
Amisja comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Beyond knackered
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
@Allamanda I just got up. Waiting for the sun to dry off my RV so I can paint it.
Amisja comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Beyond knackered
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
@Allamanda I just got up. Waiting for the sun to dry off my RV so I can paint it.
A question for strong supporters of the state of Israel.
Clare comments on Mar 19, 2019:
Their shit hole book or scrolls. The Hebrews have always been a warrior breed of people.
To discuss this shit puts you in a catch 22, saying anything against the Israel state makes you antisemitic and not anything also puts you in agreement. I hate the way they have it set up.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
@Gooniesnvrdie You have a right to your opinion. I think you, like them, wish they weren't there in the first place. AND,what do you have against counts? lol
Clare comments on Mar 19, 2019:
Their shit hole book or scrolls. The Hebrews have always been a warrior breed of people.
To discuss this shit puts you in a catch 22, saying anything against the Israel state makes you antisemitic and not anything also puts you in agreement. I hate the way they have it set up.
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
@Gooniesnvrdie You have a right to your opinion. I think you, like them, wish they weren't there in the first place. AND,what do you have against counts? lol
Hello. How r u?
Amisja comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Beyond knackered
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
What's 'knackered?'
Amisja comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Beyond knackered
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
What's 'knackered?'
Hello. How r u?
Allamanda comments on Mar 20, 2019:
you must watch the Tim Minton piece about the girl called Storm...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
I'll look him up.
Allamanda comments on Mar 20, 2019:
you must watch the Tim Minton piece about the girl called Storm...
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
I'll look him up.
Hello. How r u?
Amisja comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Beyond knackered
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
Back from whichever dimension in which you reside? lol
Amisja comments on Mar 20, 2019:
Beyond knackered
Storm1752 replies on Mar 20, 2019:
Back from whichever dimension in which you reside? lol
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