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Hello to my fellow atheists and free thinkers. I've been out of the atheist closet for a couple of decades now, having wasted several decades searching the various religious texts and sects trying to make sense of life. My outlook is science based with the provision that science is still in its infancy and there is so much more we have to learn, so I don't dismiss the unknown any more than I accept that there are things that are unknowable, we just haven't reached that level of understanding yet.

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From Facebook last year.Trump wire tap scandal deepens as he reveals which handset was compromised:
Surfpirate comments on Mar 7, 2019:
An annoying phone for an annoying POTUS.
Trump revokes Obama rule on reporting drone strike deaths 07 March 2019 US & Canada ...
Surfpirate comments on Mar 7, 2019:
Winning hearts and minds no doubt about it. Next he will want drone strikes along the US borders before turning inward on his own people.
Fun Fact: In 1770?
Surfpirate comments on Mar 6, 2019:
There are all manner of laws that are all about blaming women for men not being able to keep it in their pants.
Jesus and Mo is at it again !
Surfpirate comments on Mar 6, 2019:
When you look at it objectively it not only doesn't make any sense but it is also very insincere. :D
Humanists International (formerly International Humanist and Ethical Union) published its 7th ...
Surfpirate comments on Mar 6, 2019:
I am openly atheist and have never felt discriminated against in Canada, definitely not in a systematic manner. Bermuda was my home for many years and they have a strong Xstian bias but they are also homophobic even though I knew many that were on the down low as well as the standard joke that the most confusing day in Bermuda was Father's Day. We do love to bitch in Canada, I'll give you that.
You might understand even if you're in a similar profession...
Surfpirate comments on Mar 6, 2019:
Reminds me of a hotel project that I was helping the owner dig out of the hole full of red ink it was drowning in. I just about had us back to break even when he went off with the hotel manager to a trade show in Vegas and brought back an indoor rain machine that they just had to have for the spa. $450k. I could have choked the bastards because with the knock on effect costs it came out to closer to $700k. I finished the job but in the end the bank took it from the owner a couple of years down the road.
So how do you maintain a level of respect for those who believe in these fairytales? I find it ...
Surfpirate comments on Mar 5, 2019:
I don't have to respect the beliefs of a crazy person to accept them as a human being and I try not to go around poking the weirdos with a stick. If they try to force their madness upon me then that is another story all together and I will resist with all my strength because those people can be very dangerous indeed, just look at their history.
A good reminder...
Surfpirate comments on Mar 5, 2019:
Although we can increase our level of tolerance by pushing ourselves, we need not be wall flowers all the time. Knowing when you are approaching the wall is important so you can slow down before you hit it. ;)
Hi! First time post here. I love my dreams... the odd ones are the best, so here is one I had ...
Surfpirate comments on Mar 4, 2019:
I'm not a fan of giant insects in my dreams either but the dream family is interesting to me. Do they look the same in the dreams or just feel the same?
I'm 73 and widowed for about 6 years, I now find myself in a quandary. After little interest from ...
Surfpirate comments on Mar 4, 2019:
Are either of these women looking for a long term committment or is this your predisposition? Maybe each is happy with the arrangement as it stands at the moment, why not enjoy things as they are and allow them to develop naturally?
Great Lakes, USA Link: [vividmaps.com]
Surfpirate comments on Mar 4, 2019:
I live on an island upstream of the Iroquois Dam, interesting map.
Try, try again.
Surfpirate comments on Mar 4, 2019:
Sometimes it works. :)
Just when you thought you were safe from arachnids in the colder tempatures.
Surfpirate comments on Mar 3, 2019:
Fuck! Giant Snow Spiders!
I have a question to members of this group. I'm reading a lot about artifact and bones of native ...
Surfpirate comments on Mar 3, 2019:
I was building a mansion for a client back in the 90's for a client on Vancouver Island on a waterfront lot. We hit midden which is a bad sign and just before we completed the excavation for the foundation we pulled up a human skull in the bucket of the excavator, shut things down right away and called the Royal Archeological Society. The project was delayed by 6 months while the skeleton and 3 others were excavated with small trowels and paint brushes, several members of the local band got jobs paying top dollar to screen the surrounding midden and the remains were interred with full native ceremony by the local band. The chief made a terrible stink about rich white men digging up the bones of his ancestors and the whole bill went to my client. Twice the work that we could do away from the bones was stopped by the RCMP when neighbours who were going to lose their view when the house was completed, called in false complaints about my workers disturbing the burial site. The final verdict was that the 3 skeletons were the bodies of slaves that were unceremoniously dumped in the rubbish pit of the adjacent fishing camp by a band that had inhabited the area several hundred years before the current band conquered the area. All the fuss about white oppressors went suddenly quiet when it became clear that this was a native on native desecration of remains. My client was a Queen's Counsel Lawyer and successfully sued the Royal Archeological Society for costs and delays to his home being built. It was a complete farce.
I have a question to members of this group. I'm reading a lot about artifact and bones of native ...
Surfpirate comments on Mar 3, 2019:
I believe the skeletons of caucasian human oddities like say, the elephant man were returned and interred a long time ago but for some reason there is resistance about doing the same when the bones belong to native peoples. Why is that?
Canadian looting 'That's Canada for you': Shoppers leave cash, IOUs at unlocked grocery store...
Surfpirate comments on Mar 3, 2019:
Yep, I know the place well, live about 20 minutes down the road. That's not the best part of town in Kingston either but people tend to be more honest in a small city.
Its been about two weeks since I've slept long enough to dream. When I do sleep long enough my ...
Surfpirate comments on Mar 3, 2019:
Well that scrub brush would definitely scour out anything left behind after a bout of explosive diarrhea. Reminds me of a time in Peru when my Spanish languages skills were much more limited than they are now and I had a bad case of Montezuma's Revenge. I am trying to come up with a word for my condition and it is not coming to me but other things are building up pressure so I am under a bit of duress to figure out the proper word in Spanish for diarrhea. Suddenly the pharmacist gets it and yells out 'AH, DIARRHEA! CLARO!' and then repeats it a few more times to make sure I got it, I definitely got it and everyone else in the farmacia got the info about my condition too.
Just wondering of there is anybody there with ideas about how to make the Bank of Canada an issue in...
Surfpirate comments on Mar 3, 2019:
I think it would be a good start if our federal government took back the power to issue money instead of running it through the big 5 and paying a surcharge for a power we already have by right.
How to confuse a vegan
Surfpirate comments on Feb 28, 2019:
Or there is this:
Name something you can say during a job interview and during sex... Thank you, come again?
Surfpirate comments on Feb 28, 2019:
I can take you where you want to go, efficiently, economically and to your complete satisfaction; when shall we start?
I used to be able to read their scrips lol.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 28, 2019:
That's dead fuckin brilliant! :D
Available in Canada and Australia. Hot dog stuffed crust pizza. I want one of these, and I want it ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 28, 2019:
In Canada we don't use real dogs in our hot dog crust pizza, dog is too tough but puppy is very tender. ;)
I really think it's time we changed the portraits on our folding money. Outside of the Queen, we ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 26, 2019:
Politicians on the paper money makes sense to me, since paper currencies are created out of debt and thin air they are the worst form of institutionalized theft, so why not have the portraits of master thieves on the currency?
The week before this last lunar eclipse, I had two flying dreams, one lucid, one half lucid. Both I ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 25, 2019:
Awesome dream and I'm so happy for you to overcome that damping field when you were flying, sweet. I have a lot of deja vu feelings in my dream where I know where everything is because either I have dreamed it before or because I just know although I have never been there IRL. I'm guessing you're a sparky in real life since you recognized it as a Square D box. :) I have to wonder who or what the walrus was up to though. If you want to try something different the next time you are flying in your dream, try focusing on a distant part of the landscape and think yourself there without having to use up all the time flying. It's a bit like going to warp speed, one minute you are hear and the next you are way over there, still flying of course. It's a handy trick to know and may help get over some of those altitude restrictions you have on your flying atm.
One of you suggested I shoulkd join this group. I have been waking up with songs playing in my ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 25, 2019:
Are the songs in any particular genre or theme? Just curious to know if you sense a subconcious connection between the songs and your waking life.
I’m feeling a little nostalgic. Canada vignettes: The log drivers waltz came to mind.[youtu.be]
Surfpirate comments on Feb 25, 2019:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/log-driver-s-waltz-wade-hemsworth-song-folk-1.4911175
There seems to be something in the air.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 25, 2019:
Not going to get much of an argument on those two topics on this site. :D
I hear she's leaving for other things, like going to create a global crisis now...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 25, 2019:
Sure, real science and bible psuedoscience.
What did the lions eat on the Ark? [secularhumanism.org]
Surfpirate comments on Feb 24, 2019:
I believe the Xstians made a working model in Kentucky to help explain all this and if you hurry you can see it before it goes bankrupt.
Works without a god too.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 24, 2019:
Angry old prick in the sky, BS.
Should euthanasia or "death with dignity" be available to anyone upon demand under controlled ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 24, 2019:
I don't see how assisted suicide can work fairly without universal health care. Health care has to be equally accessible to all before death with dignity can be equally accessible to all. Medically assisted death with dignity has always been available to the wealthy and the powerful, it's the poor that have had to deal with this problem on their own and with all the pitfalls that come with that.
How to build a death ray — a new book looks at attempts to make the ultimate weapon Science ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 24, 2019:
I remember going to the Ontario Science Center as a kid who was interested in science and a member of the science club. They had special sessions and one of them was a pulse laser that they used to blast a whole is a granite block with, I was in love at first sight, even while wearing the special glasses.
This might be the right group to find others who have had my experiences with music. I have yet to ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 24, 2019:
Certain music is a springboard to meditative experiences for me, usually very lucid dreaming but in a waking state. Different pieces take you to different places but generally only instrumental works.
More happy memories: Listening to The Vinyl Cafe with Stuart McLean while driving through cottage ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 24, 2019:
I saw him live in his last season before it came out that he had the Big C, he was very special. It was a Xmas Special so the story where Dave screws up the turkey and has to take it to the hotel to have it cooked was there and also the one where the kid's punch and the adult punch get swapped at the neighbourhood party was in the mix. Just hilarious.
I worked with a talented team of sculptors to create the stage for this years Academy Awards. Here ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 24, 2019:
Just Beautiful, that's true craftsmanship.
I’m feeling a little nostalgic. Canada vignettes: The log drivers waltz came to mind.[youtu.be]
Surfpirate comments on Feb 24, 2019:
Another Canadian Classic based on a Stephen Leacock story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IV6xT00ZZ4
I stuck at SICU last night ( surgical ICU ), man , lion in a cage , pacing up and down the hall and ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 23, 2019:
You stated the facts, not just as you saw them but as they are. The truth is and should continue to be an absolute defense. Perhaps in the future he will keep his inane comments to himself.
apparently Québec is the most hated province in Canada... Trying to find solace in this article:...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 22, 2019:
I would say that Toronto is the most hated province in Canada and if you don't believe me then just ask Doug Ford because as far as he is concerned the province ends at the limits of the GTA. lol
Snake Oil Cannabis? The Scientific Evidence for Medical Marijuana & CBD — Information is Beautiful...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 22, 2019:
A friend of mine has suffered several minor strokes over the past few years and recently had a fainting spell that left him with lacerations to his face and two broken ribs. He has two vials of medical marijuana that would help him rest and recover but he doesn't know how they might react with all the medications he is taking already. My friend asked his doctor on how he should proceed and the doctor said he had no idea, so my friend continues to sufffer and his healing is delayed. Cannabis still carries a huge stigma due to the propaganda about it over the past 80 years.
I like looking at assholes, but only while I'm driving! I look in their windows as I pass them ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 22, 2019:
What about the ones that look back? What are they thinking as the drive past and look at you? ;) I find that a lot of intelligent people seem to think that they are the only ones who aren't idiots.
It's similar to the bible. People don't bother to read it, but they sure do claim to know what's in ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 22, 2019:
Ending corporate welfare and allocating income taxes more fairly and evenly is hardly seizing and redistributing wealth, more like rebalancing the wealth that was seized from the majority of the population and given to corporate interests.
I'm hearing a lot about the humanitarian crisis in Venezuela and how the evil socialist dictator is ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 22, 2019:
If you haven't read John Perkins book The Confessions of an Economic Hitman then I highly suggest you do. John was living in Ecuador when I was there and he paints a compelling picture of how US Foreign Aid is really just funds used to support US Corporate interests, including the muscle to implement regime change when it suits those business interests.
Sign of the times.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 22, 2019:
More of the same.
Canadian stereotype... or maybe not.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 22, 2019:
I can think of a few fans who might think it was worth a call to 911.
The history of England explained by maps :-)
Surfpirate comments on Feb 22, 2019:
Curious to see what the next chapter will bring with Brexit. I've visited the Falkland Islands and it is a very bleak place indeed.
Here ya go friends!
Surfpirate comments on Feb 22, 2019:
Q! he does have his good moments. lol
Trans-Canada Hwy 1 near Canmore, Southern Alberta.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 22, 2019:
That brings back some memories from my years in Cowtown. Back then if you saw someone stuck you stopped and helped them out. In a few minutes a half dozen guys would have the person back on the road.
This SNC Lavulin thing is taking its toll. The story seems to have legs. Nice hair, though... ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 21, 2019:
And yet still there is nothing but smoke and mirrors, the media and the conservatives have managed to paint quite the picture of a crime that may not even have been committed.
How is everyone coping with S.A.D. (Seasonal Affective Disorder)?
Surfpirate comments on Feb 20, 2019:
I'm indirectly effected because my wife suffers from SAD, we try to get away to someplace warm and sunny at the beginning and the end of the season. In between my wife visits the local tan salon and that helps, plus one of those special lights.
OK guys, keep getting called Russian troll. My position is this, I look at reality. The world ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 20, 2019:
The force is strong in this one, we must send brainwashed minions to destroy him and his puny lightsabre. ;)
Funny how that happens...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 20, 2019:
It's easy to see which side has a sense of humour, even the cops are laughing.
Something I was not aware of in our history February 17 It was on this date 89-years ago that...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 20, 2019:
Racists and bigots, is anywhere free of these knuckle draggers? I heard on the CBC that the truckers protest in Ottawa yesterday was disrupted when a few far right, neo-Nazi types tried to ride the coat tails of the truckers protest. The neo-Nazis were confronted by other groups and 'a scuffle ensued', which is RCMP code for a bunch of jerks got their asses kicked.
Anyone eat bear? Friend of min shot a black one a few years ago. Claims it is good eating. His dad ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 20, 2019:
Bear meat is greasy and can have a strong gamey flavour to it, most people I know who hunt and eat black bear use a marinade before cooking it. That may be where this old wives tale that bear is rotten meat came from but there is no basis in fact.
Poverty exists because.......
Surfpirate comments on Feb 19, 2019:
Half of the wealth in the world is in the hands of just 16 people. 6 billion people and counting on this planet but half of the resources and power are controlled by just 16 of them, that's wealth inequality at the extreme.
The healthiest, fittest prez ever - according to his quack.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 18, 2019:
I have to lose a few pounds myself after this winter, that makes me feel a bit better. :)
Made knishes today, so easy using puff pastry.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 18, 2019:
I love beef knish but have always picked them up at the Jewish deli, I should try to make some because I love to eat them.
No numbers allowed... I'm vinyl records and bad-curly-perms years old.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 18, 2019:
I'm anything you could catch could be cured with penicillin old.
How to write a Sext that doesn't suck
Surfpirate comments on Feb 18, 2019:
The flannel sheets are on the floor with the down comforter because our lovemaking is so hot. now that's a Canadian sext
My garden has a wildlife pond, and today I spotted the first frog-spawn of the season, I do not know...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 18, 2019:
Life finds a way, my ponds are completely frozen, right to the bottom and there will be life there come the spring.
Happy Family Day. I hope you all enjoy your day off.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 18, 2019:
What a great idea for a holiday in February, the least favourite month of the year.
I built an impromptu fire pit today and burned a lot of the brush in my garden left over from last ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 17, 2019:
I'd give that my boy scout leader's seal of approval. (y)
Of course the second person was a vandal too.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 17, 2019:
In the same vein.
I haven't tracked down a heart or club card yet....but I'm sure they exist. I need to start ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 16, 2019:
Nothing worse than having your sweetheart's love moulder. :)
My friend Perry made me a crust-less quiche yesterday. All locally-sourced ingredients, but he got ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 16, 2019:
So a frittatta? Looks yummy.
So, tomorrow is my birthday and today my facebook posting priveledges got revoked for three days ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 16, 2019:
When you tilt a windmills you have to expect to get unseated from your horse from time to time. Tilt at real dragons and you will no longer trouble yourself with windmills.
A artist thankfully removing her stuff from here was telling me that Michelle Obama was a man and ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 15, 2019:
What was the calibre of her art?
"If there is a gateway to hell, a portal from the underworld used by demons and witches to wreak ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 15, 2019:
Why are the witches always depicted as nasty crones? most of the witches that I have known were pretty hot.
USS Macon Akron Ohio 1932, USS Macon Moffett Field Mt. View CA No year. That first one is ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 14, 2019:
The guys at the top of those ladders had brass balls.
I don't think his heart is really into the whole Valentines Day experience.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 14, 2019:
I buy my wife flowers regularly, cut and live but the one thing I never buy her is roses. Her first husband was a cheater and always brought her roses out of guilt when he was screwing around on her.
Fun book titles.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 13, 2019:
Spots on the Wall by Hoo Flung Dung
Has anyone ever sued anyone? It sure is a stressful situation. Not looking for any legal advice ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 13, 2019:
Several times and it is always stressful, especially if you are a decent person and not an asshole. I think the assholes of the world love the drama that a legal suit brings with it.
Fun book titles.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 13, 2019:
Screwing on the Beach by Sandee Balls
Fun book titles.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 13, 2019:
Rusty Bedsprings by I. P. Knightly
What caused your last breakup with a significant other?
Surfpirate comments on Feb 13, 2019:
Boredom
Now is the time.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 13, 2019:
Would a group hug work? :)
I wrote a post last week but do not see it posted
Surfpirate comments on Feb 13, 2019:
Is this a philosophical question or more of a question about the meaning of posts.
Fun to drive at least?
Surfpirate comments on Feb 12, 2019:
The woman who lives down the street from us has a red one (had a red one) but she hit a deer with it this fall. Both the car and the deer died but she was fine.
Comments? Thoughts? Caveat Emptor? [mamamia.com.au] tl:dr version 'My husband kept his ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 12, 2019:
I'm still trying to figure out why some people insist on calling it pretty or beautiful, as compared to what? What makes a penis pretty or ugly?
Hello! New poster, was thinking of quitting because it seemed like no Canadians here..Granted most...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 12, 2019:
I've lived East, West, South and North but back in the Center now. Q: How many Torontonians does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: Just one, he holds up the light bulb and the universe revolves around him.
Women, Would you date a man who has had sex with a transgender woman(shemale)?
Surfpirate comments on Feb 12, 2019:
Would a man date a woman who has had sex with another woman? Wouldn't bother me, didn't bother me.
Japanese bonsai owners urge thieves to water stolen 400-year-old tree worth $127,700 [abc.net.au]
Surfpirate comments on Feb 12, 2019:
It was around when the Shoguns were in power. :O
What made you an atheist/agnostic?
Surfpirate comments on Feb 12, 2019:
Logic and Reason
@titanicluv019 Lives in a world of confusion Agnostic, Humanist, Freethinker Open to meeting men...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 12, 2019:
The Xstian god is a big part of her life and she lives in a world of confusion. Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!
2 months and still going strong !
Surfpirate comments on Feb 12, 2019:
Your 3 month probation period is almost up and she is still keeping you on, clearly you are doing something right.
Step Four: Culture of Plunder may be of interest to the Canadian members. So scary! A ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 11, 2019:
Surely most thinking people already realize all this.
Bread update. I believe I used a bit too much flour. Density and obvious overflow indicate half a ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 11, 2019:
Cut off the bits that don't work for you and make croutons of that, crustless slices for the rest or maybe a nice bread pudding.
Flightless bird feeder guests have come out of hibernation, they seem hungry.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 11, 2019:
Southern Ontario, Canada on the border with Upstate New York is where I live and black squirrels are the most common kind of squirrel here. There are a few grey squirrels and if there are coniferous forests around then you will also find the red squirrels.
Snubbed again, however this one cracks me up. [google.com]
Surfpirate comments on Feb 11, 2019:
Wow 1964 to 1981 there were no births! LOL I clearly recall being told by Boomers that I wasn't part of their generation because it ended in 1959 and I was born in the 60's. I also recall thinking to myself how lucky I was not to be born as part of that conformist group of Boomer assholes. Gen X'ers learn early how to succeed by flying below the radar and grabbing the prize before the Boomers sort out what they are doing. :)
Ho Li FOOK... Makes the American Mafia look like Cub Scouts! But I forget... Dump is owned by the ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 11, 2019:
Most of the mafia business went legitimate decades ago, it's just easier.
No one has written me a poem, so I can't say I would have this expression.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 10, 2019:
You're so sweet and super adorable, You make all the other girls look cheap and deplorable. The End
@lavergne @ SukieSue @ Proudmarrie I made it to hospital parking lot and I am sitting in car ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 10, 2019:
A Claddagh ring is perfect.
I have been seeing a woman, I really like her. How do you deal with someone you really like, have ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 10, 2019:
Change your name and move with your dog to another country, it's not too late. :)
Preying Mantis.
Surfpirate comments on Feb 9, 2019:
If aliens land on Earth I really hope they don't look like that.
I think we have all known a Dylan, be afraid. :D
Surfpirate comments on Feb 9, 2019:
I've been Dylan and moved past it, Dylan is going to wind up employing a lot of those other kids and he will probably have to fire Catherine before she gets through her 3 month trial period of employment. I think Paul will be a real trooper if he doesn't get eaten alive by those werewolves. :D
We live near an interesting little town. Waynesville, Ohio. An antique shop/arts & craft's themed ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 9, 2019:
No tax on that service either. ;)
I know that some of you guys eat venison or deer meat. Here is a bit of a warning about a mad cow ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 9, 2019:
I've been hearing about it but haven't seen any cases myself.
Never let be said that I'm unwilling to work for food! Yesterday, my friend whom I've mentioned ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 9, 2019:
Locavore is becoming a real thing, people want to know what is in their food and the best way to do it is to grow it yourself. Tastes better too.
One for the American, British and European people read. Venezuelan President calls out US ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 9, 2019:
Whenever they start waving the flag and promoting democracy and freedom abroad then you know what it is really about is the oil.
22 degrees outside with a wind chill of 11. Just in from a 3 mile "Airborne Shuffle" through the ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 8, 2019:
It's on my list of countries to visit, it is supposed to be beautiful.
The truth about General Motors. This is the best auto channel on YouTube. Scotty Kilmer has ...
Surfpirate comments on Feb 8, 2019:
When I retired I stopped buy new trucks, no longer required for business image. Now I buy all my cars at the public auction. I bought a Jaguar X-type for $2k CAN, it ran faultlessly, a Nissan Pathfinder for $3k CAN that I have driven for 3 years and all it has cost me is new tires that I put on last month. Let the car companies gouge somebody else for a change, I'm sick of that game.

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