Nancy Pelosi arguing FOR Medicare For All in 1994 [youtu.be]

DenoPenno comments on Jan 2, 2021:

When I hear ignorant people who claim Pelosi is the modern day problem here they seem too ignorant to even understand politics.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 3, 2021:

Accidentally clicked a Like on your comment when I intended it for the reply below you.

If you’re brave enough to fly the: Trump Lost LOL flag.

TomMcGiverin comments on Jan 3, 2021:

In most towns, including mine, that would be an invitation to at least vandalism and at worst, assault or murder upon your person. I would not give that invitation without plenty of money to pay insurance deductibles for vandalism claims and also have a firearm in my home to protect myself. Too many...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 3, 2021:

@ADKSparky Probably a good thing..

sheep and mitch

nicknotes comments on Jan 3, 2021:

What worries me is that 70 million Americans were stupid enough to vote for Trump. What is wrong with these people? As a retired postal worker, I want to state that the problems with the Post Office are not the fault of the workers but the problem lies with the top management

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 3, 2021:

Unfortunately, even after Biden takes office, he will not be able to fire De Joy until he has replaced most of the Board Of Governors for the Postal Service, so it will be at least some months before we get any improvement with the mail service. The turtle man's face is hard to forget, regrettably.

Why is it that men can straight up tell you they aren’t attracted to you.

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 27, 2020:

Not me. If I'm not physically attracted, there's not going to be any sex. Maybe you are unwantingly attracting selfish, shallow men. Not all of us are that way.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 2, 2021:

@racocn8 I think you have summed it all up well. When I re-enter the dating scene this summer, it will be with the sadder and wiser knowledge that most women out there on the dating scene possess this cynicism, misandry, or man-hating attitude, as you call it, and will proceed forewarned and forearmed to size up which women I encounter on dating sites seem to have this attitude and steer clear of them ASAP. Funny how this phenomenon has so many parallels to prejudice against other races, sexual orientations, etc. Yet, nowadays it actually seems like those subjects are more open to discussion than misandry, which remains taboo between the sexes.

Why is it that men can straight up tell you they aren’t attracted to you.

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 27, 2020:

Not me. If I'm not physically attracted, there's not going to be any sex. Maybe you are unwantingly attracting selfish, shallow men. Not all of us are that way.

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 2, 2021:

@racocn8 I get that. I still resent being judged as equally guilty as the other men she has encountered simply based on my gender, no matter how different I may be from said men... Also, when I disputed her assertion on this thread, she more or less accused me of lying about myself, and I rightfully resent that as well.

Trump 'diehards' threatening to 'kill all the D.

racocn8 comments on Jan 2, 2021:

Can we just spray blue paint from the rooftops so they'll kill each other?

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 2, 2021:

I really like that thought.

A Happy New Year’s day public service announcement for the Single Ladies here who might have a ...

seattlepanda comments on Jan 1, 2021:

So he's advertising...so what?...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 2, 2021:

Because in commercial product ads any adult with a room temp IQ knows and expects a fair amount of deception and exaggeration. In personal ads and dating profiles, we are dealing with affairs of the heart involving many sincere, honest people. In my mind, they deserve better than the usual lies of advertising and I don't accept or buy into excusing the liars who play the dating game as blameless or justified in their deceptions. They are nasty people who deserve scorn and condemnation, not a shrug and a "So what?" attitude that lets them off the hook for their amoral choices.

A Happy New Year’s day public service announcement for the Single Ladies here who might have a ...

seattlepanda comments on Jan 1, 2021:

So he's advertising...so what?...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 2, 2021:

@Soarfeet That is the definition of arrogance. It's the same as someone using profile photos that are fake or way outdated to inflate their attractiveness, then meeting the other person in real life and saying, "Well, this is all about advertising and it worked well enough to get you to meet me". In his case, I assume the lying is about his financial situation, education and employment, right?

A Happy New Year’s day public service announcement for the Single Ladies here who might have a ...

seattlepanda comments on Jan 1, 2021:

So he's advertising...so what?...

TomMcGiverin replies on Jan 2, 2021:

Do tell....

Trump continues to shoot for a civil war starting on January 6, calling his brownshirts to ...

davknight comments on Dec 31, 2020:

Watch him resign when the coup fails!

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 31, 2020:

If the coup fails, he will resign and have Pence pardon him just in time before Biden is inaugurated.

Why is it that men can straight up tell you they aren’t attracted to you.

Deb57 comments on Dec 28, 2020:

For some men, the only requirement for a one night stand is that she have a pulse. And sometimes even that is negotiable.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 29, 2020:

@Marcie1974 I'm saying it may be more common in the men of your generation than mine.

Why is it that men can straight up tell you they aren’t attracted to you.

Deb57 comments on Dec 28, 2020:

For some men, the only requirement for a one night stand is that she have a pulse. And sometimes even that is negotiable.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 29, 2020:

@Marcie1974 And maybe most or all of them are telling the truth. Notice that almost all of them are much older than you. Maybe the men of your generation are mostly dogs, and the men of my generation aren't, at least not as often. Your experience could be age or generationally- related.

Again the Republicans are giving us a monumental national debt along with reduced taxes to the rich ...

Barnie2years comments on Dec 28, 2020:

Happens every time. Republicans trash the economy, the Democrats take the hard steps necessary to get it back on track. Then the Republicans come along and lie that they can make the hard go away and the cycle starts again.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 28, 2020:

Most people are idiots and fall for the lies every time. But never forget that both of the major parties collude to keep crashing the economy together and then right it again over and over while they keep starting wars of choice. It's all Kabuki theater to look like two opposing parties while the same ruling class that both serve keeps benefitting each cycle.

"The 1990s original had audiences entranced by a seductive Southerner, Clinton, who under the ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 28, 2020:

Sums it up quite well, how if you keep settling for the lesser evil, the evil keeps getting worse over time. Also a great description of how the duopoly works.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 28, 2020:

@WilliamCharles Telling truth to power, about power, usually means making you poorer and opening your reputation to attack as a kook or at least disloyal to America.

Why is it that men can straight up tell you they aren’t attracted to you.

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 27, 2020:

Not me. If I'm not physically attracted, there's not going to be any sex. Maybe you are unwantingly attracting selfish, shallow men. Not all of us are that way.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 27, 2020:

@Marcie1974 Well I am now 62 years old and have never lied or played games to get blown or have sex. You will either believe me or not. I know who I am and so did my late wife I was with for 22 years. Maybe your cynicism about men in general is a turn off to the truly good guys out there and is getting in your way.

Why is it that men can straight up tell you they aren’t attracted to you.

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 27, 2020:

Not me. If I'm not physically attracted, there's not going to be any sex. Maybe you are unwantingly attracting selfish, shallow men. Not all of us are that way.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 27, 2020:

@Marcie1974 Maybe most men are that way, I have no way of knowing as I am a straight male. You seem to be implying that I am lying about myself and I resent that, Marcie.

Why is it that men can straight up tell you they aren’t attracted to you.

MerlinZap comments on Dec 27, 2020:

Marcie, (was my Mothers name), you're hanging out with the wrong men.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 27, 2020:

@Marcie1974 You're a lot younger than me, so a lot of it could be simply the men of your age group. Maybe, compared to my age, they are simply more horny and selfish than men my age. Or not.

Why is it that men can straight up tell you they aren’t attracted to you.

resserts comments on Dec 27, 2020:

I don't relate to their sentiment. I've never felt like sleeping with anyone for whom I felt no attraction. I've gone very long stretches without having sex and was no worse for it, but a friend of mine has told me that he goes a little crazy when he's been celibate too long. Maybe that's what's ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 27, 2020:

Sounds right. I guess we are rare exceptions.

BREAKING NEWS.

powder comments on Dec 26, 2020:

Betcha won't be blocking bills that benefit Israel

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 27, 2020:

Nor bills that provide corporate welfare or fund the MIC. No austerity for those programs.

Mike Pence, Ignoring the Bible, Mocks Democrats for Wanting to Help the Poor | Beth Stoneburner | ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 24, 2020:

Cut taxes on the rich, gut regulations, and advance freedom (all for the rich only). Provides more freedom for the poor to get poorer, while the rich get richer and the poor are free to sleep under bridges or, better yet, die quietly in the gutter or under bridges. Amazing so many working poor ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 24, 2020:

@Barnie2years The whole anti-socialist message of Christianity to accept your lot of being poor or a powerless peasant is a big part of why I moved on from being a believer in Christianity.

[news.yahoo.com] What Biden's cabinet picks signal about his presidency?

mcgeo52 comments on Dec 21, 2020:

Diversity is good, but from a policy standpoint it looks like four more years of the same centrist, corporate Democratic BS that brought us Donald Trump. Biden and the DNC don't get it. The wealth disparity in this country is setting the stage for a fascist takeover, just like Germany in the ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 22, 2020:

@TheGreatShadow I live in the US and we have no representation in our federal govt. as both major parties are conservative and bought off by the same people and corporations. Wish we had a Euro type parlimentary system.

[news.yahoo.com] What Biden's cabinet picks signal about his presidency?

mcgeo52 comments on Dec 21, 2020:

Diversity is good, but from a policy standpoint it looks like four more years of the same centrist, corporate Democratic BS that brought us Donald Trump. Biden and the DNC don't get it. The wealth disparity in this country is setting the stage for a fascist takeover, just like Germany in the ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 22, 2020:

Like that's gonna happen...

"You've got the wrong house": Video shows Chicago police handcuffing innocent naked woman during ...

Beowulfsfriend comments on Dec 18, 2020:

And, sadly, the mayor tried to keep it hushed up as well.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 21, 2020:

Very ironic, considering that the mayor is also a black woman.

GOP lawmaker twice blocks up-or-down vote on $1,200 stimulus checks

Barnie2years comments on Dec 20, 2020:

He’s a millionaire, $1,200 to him is pocket change. And yet he’s afraid that people who can’t pay their rent or electric bill will stop working if they get that check. Until Republican masses figure out their representatives would rather see them starve than pay higher taxes on the money they...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 20, 2020:

No shit. He brings new lows to the term niggardly.

What Kinda Funeral Do Atheist Have?

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 20, 2020:

For most atheists, it's a secular memorial service at a Unitarian church. Problem solved.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 20, 2020:

@Canndue They call it a worship service, but there's no God talk and the sermons and readings are more about philosophy and meditation type stuff. A New Agey person would be right at home.

Girls. Always keep this in mind when you're searching for that particular, elusive male. ....

BitFlipper comments on Dec 19, 2020:

I actually spend a lot of time thinking. But, I can imagine women spend even more time thinking. They just don't think about me.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 20, 2020:

I also spend a lot of time thinking, but then again, I've never been a typical or stereotypical male.

What Kinda Funeral Do Atheist Have?

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 20, 2020:

For most atheists, it's a secular memorial service at a Unitarian church. Problem solved.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 20, 2020:

@Canndue More personal, friendly, and less sterile than a funeral home. A lot of times the dead person never attended there for years, if ever. The connection to the church is sometimes solely thru the dead person's friends or family. You wouldn't understand it if you'd never been to a Unitarian memorial service or been to a Unitarian church. It's a secular version of a church that people go to so they can have more of a community than they would ever get from an Atheists And Freethinkers group.

Watch These Megachurch Pastors Praise Each Other in a Huge Christian Circle Jerk | Hemant Mehta | ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 18, 2020:

Circle jerking by a circle of jerks.. I used to work with a group that included a couple suck up yes men accompanied by the two managers that verbally sucked each other off. It really was a verbal circle jerk each time I was forced to attend a staff meeting. Truly nauseating.. Most toxic workplace ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 20, 2020:

@Eazyduzzit I think a lot of us have. I used to have fantasies of killing him and getting away with it, totally uncharacteristic of me. Even years after leaving that job, I would still have dreams in which I was forced to temporarily come back and work at that job. Talk about dreaming that you've gone to hell...

‘I am not ashamed of what I did’: Proud Boys leader admits burning church’s Black Lives Matter...

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 18, 2020:

Racist jackass... Too bad people on the left are pretty much non-violent and very unlikely to come after him. Unfortunately those on the right have no qualms about using violence as they think might makes right. In fact, it's one of the few things they respect.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 19, 2020:

@creative51 I am skeptical and suspicious of that assumption, mainly because the government in the US has a long, sordid history of using undercover agents pretending to be leftists in order to commit violence and use that to discredit and turn the public against leftists. This began happening long before the 1960s and these programs of infiltration and falsely crediting groups with violence has only been used against the left in the US, not against the right. That's because the government is way more opposed to leftist groups in the US than they are of the right.

‘I am not ashamed of what I did’: Proud Boys leader admits burning church’s Black Lives Matter...

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 18, 2020:

Racist jackass... Too bad people on the left are pretty much non-violent and very unlikely to come after him. Unfortunately those on the right have no qualms about using violence as they think might makes right. In fact, it's one of the few things they respect.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 18, 2020:

@creative51 The diff is that people on the left willing to use violence to further political ends pretty well dried up by the end of the 70s, while on the right it has only continued to grow as a larger and larger part of the people on the right. For a while in the 90s, and maybe during the Obama admin., the feds seemed to try to to stop it. But with Trump, these groups and right wing violence have been actively encouraged.

Watch These Megachurch Pastors Praise Each Other in a Huge Christian Circle Jerk | Hemant Mehta | ...

linxminx comments on Dec 18, 2020:

Belief and faith are commodities that are sold by these marketing hacks with their infomercial stages and media blitzes, taking advantage of the masses to fill their egos and their pockets. It's amazing how many people fall for this.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 18, 2020:

Not amazing to me. Barnum said it decades ago, one born every minute..

This morning I got the immuno therapy drugs casirivimab and imdevimab by Regernon, delivered by IV ...

sassygirl3869 comments on Dec 17, 2020:

Sorry to hear you have Covid. Did they trace where it derived from?

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 17, 2020:

No and I'll probably never find out. My best guess is a woman I shared an exercise room with on Sat. afternoon for about 20 min. without either of us wearing masks. I started feeling sick around noon the next day. Some people tell me that's too soon for the exposure to have been on Sat., some say it isn't. It really doesn't matter as I don't know the identity of the woman so I can't contact her to find out if she had Covid or has gotten sick.

None of us are perfect, but many of us try. [youtu.be]

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 15, 2020:

First world problems experienced by privileged entitled white people. These women's characters are the British version of the Dem voters who rejected Bernie, yet they are all in on PC and multiculturalism. My response to them is "Suck it if you feel bad". You deserve to...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 16, 2020:

@Lorajay The left needs their own party, not the Dems. "Compromising" with them has only led to the party moving more and more to the right since the mid 1980s. The only thing that might move them back to the left is finding that the left has abandoned or credibly threatens to abandon them with a viable third party. Then they would move to the left, maybe, since they would no longer have a chance of winning prez elections. But I am doubtful that they really care anymore as long as they keep getting all the corporate campaign money. Do you really still believe that winning matters to the Dem leaders more than the corporate donations and stopping progressives from ever taking over the party? Because I haven't believed that for more than a decade.

A very interesting point.

yvilletom comments on Dec 15, 2020:

But what’s called American democracy is actually American oligarchy. That’s a very few ruling very many. Nationally, 536 rule about 330 million.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 15, 2020:

@yvilletom You're right. The vast majority of them are millionaires, all of them with the best insurance, healthcare and pensions of any Americans who are not part of the oligarchy. Those things by themselves make them completely out of touch, with a few exceptions, from normal Americans who have to worry about paying the bills, getting evicted, etc. Then, when you add to it the fact that almost all of them take PAC money and sell themselves to big donors, almost none of them really represent the peasants and actually care about serving their interests.

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TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 13, 2020:

Right wing hate radio.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 15, 2020:

@kmaz Right wing hate radio appeals to people because, at some level, they know that the economy is rigged and that the government as it is, a corrupted plutocracy, is not on their side. Right wing radio acknowledges their grievances about a system that is rigged against them and offers a convenient scapegoat, namely rich and upper middle class liberals, the Dem Party, and racial minorities as well as queer people. Liberal mass media (there really is no Left wing mass media in the US, other than those programs like Democracy Now!, on FSTV or the internet) does not address the grievances of working class or poor people about a rigged economy or a plutocracy. Instead, it scapegoats the Repubs, bigots, and religious conservatives. None of these groups, esp. the latter two, have that much power in the system. Even the Repubs only are as powerful as they are because of the collusion of establishment Dems in congress. Since both right wing radio and liberal media, like NPR, CNN, and, worst of all, MSNBC, use scapegoating of groups that are mostly not part of the plutocracy, it's not surprising that people in the lower classes, who are the majority of talk radio's audience, choose the viewpoint that at least addresses their grievances and lets them channel their anger at being powerless and victimized by a government that doesn't care about them. I bet most of them are like Blue-No-Matter-Who Dem voters, they vote for any Repub not because they think they are on their side economically, but because it gives them a chance to vote against and stick it to those liberals in the higher classes who look down on them and to those minorities they blame for stealing their chance to advance in the class system.

The Results Are In: A Record-Breaking 334 LGBTQ+ Politicians Were Elected in 2020 | them.

powder comments on Dec 14, 2020:

As long as they are secular and represent their constituents well.............does it matter if they are black, blue, brindle or fuck goats? Don't think it does. This is what they call identity politics rather than ideology driven. Good in one way that minorities feel empowered but prefer that ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 15, 2020:

Well said. ID politics is a bullshit distraction to make the peasants think they are represented by people who share their values and policy positions, when they don't. If pols represent Wall Street, corporate America, the MIC, and the for-profit healthcare industry, they are class enemies of the masses and it doesn't matter if they are a green-skinned trisexual. For example, people assumed, wrongly, that Bill Clinton would be on the side of working people and the poor because he grew up as white trash. The also assumed that Obama would be on the side of poor and working class whites, as well as working class and poor minorities, because he was half black and had experienced prejudice. So wrong about both of them.

Yoo go uhway!!!!

Spudgun comments on Dec 14, 2020:

That's a very selfish cat!

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 15, 2020:

I used to have a neighbor whose cat went thru the same routine every winter to cope with the stress of not going outside. He would push the other cats away from the food bowls, eat all the food, get fat as a pig, and also lay on the heating vents to soak up all the heat. He was the definition of selfish.

How did the treatment of Native Americans leave a moral stain on the United States?

The-Krzyz comments on Dec 12, 2020:

“Did?” DID?!?! Try “does.”

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 12, 2020:

Same with slavery and blacks. Still does to this day.

My question is, how do you know, unless told, someone is gay?

powder comments on Dec 11, 2020:

Time to print up "I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body" and vici verca T-shirts. Wonder how they would react.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 12, 2020:

You're a naughty one..

So Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been named Time's Person of the Year.

ChestRockfield comments on Dec 11, 2020:

It wasn't a fluke. They determined, and correctly so, that a more centrist candidate had a better shot at winning with a right-shifting electorate. I can understand the Bernie Bros not being able to grasp this, but I'm not sure why republicans or conservatives are at all fuckin' confused by the ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 12, 2020:

@JeffMurray Time to block, asshole...

So Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been named Time's Person of the Year.

ChestRockfield comments on Dec 11, 2020:

It wasn't a fluke. They determined, and correctly so, that a more centrist candidate had a better shot at winning with a right-shifting electorate. I can understand the Bernie Bros not being able to grasp this, but I'm not sure why republicans or conservatives are at all fuckin' confused by the ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 12, 2020:

@JeffMurray I live in a red state, so I'll vote for a progressive in a general whenever there is one, as my vote won't make any diff most of the time. Believe what you want about non-voters and poor people. I think you are a smug elitist.

So Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been named Time's Person of the Year.

ChestRockfield comments on Dec 11, 2020:

It wasn't a fluke. They determined, and correctly so, that a more centrist candidate had a better shot at winning with a right-shifting electorate. I can understand the Bernie Bros not being able to grasp this, but I'm not sure why republicans or conservatives are at all fuckin' confused by the ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 12, 2020:

@JeffMurray What Robo just said. The current non-voters can be motivated to vote for progressives, esp. in a general election, if the candidate is trustworthy, exciting, and promising significant change for them. If a major party nominates such people, they will win because of the usual non-voters turning out for them. Your reasoning is just rationalization that the major parties use to justify and excuse their corruption and opposition to progressives. Deep down, the corporate media and the Dem Party know that progressives can win general elections, but they say otherwise so they can keep shitting on them and never have to stand up for the working class instead of the donor class.

So there was a positive COVID-19 case at my wife’s job (she works in a daycare, a kid had tested ...

Beowulfsfriend comments on Dec 12, 2020:

Pretty much explains the exponential rise of cases.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 12, 2020:

Also explains why they have been able to control the virus way better in Europe, with single payer health care for all and paid sick leave for all so people can stay home to avoid spreading the virus and still have income to survive. But our government and economic system see the peasants as all expendable and not worth supporting with income and health care unless they are able to work and create profits for the ruling class. Sometimes I'm amazed that Social Security and Medicare are still around, since our seniors are no longer working for the man to create wealth for them, so they may as well be dead and broke before they die. Except that a lot of them still are working because they are too poor to retire...

So Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been named Time's Person of the Year.

ChestRockfield comments on Dec 11, 2020:

It wasn't a fluke. They determined, and correctly so, that a more centrist candidate had a better shot at winning with a right-shifting electorate. I can understand the Bernie Bros not being able to grasp this, but I'm not sure why republicans or conservatives are at all fuckin' confused by the ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 11, 2020:

@RoboGraham Exactly. We had 80 million eligible voters this time who sat it out. While nominating someone like Bernie might have lost ten or twenty million off the Dem side, he would have more than made up for that by drawing two or three times that number of votes from non-voters, which would have meant a landslide for Bernie, rather than a narrow victory for Biden. But the DNC really doesn't care about winning and will always go for a squeaker win with a neoliberal corporatist centrist than allow a landslide for a progressive. The Dem Party is useless and hostile to progressives and it's time more of us realized that.

REPORT FROM A RED STATE: Button 2 on my car radio is set to the local Fox News station.

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 10, 2020:

Florida is, no doubt, a crazy state. Maybe because you have everything from the crackers, to the Cubans, and finally all the transplants from the Northeast. Such a varied group of cultures and ideologies. Like Cali, it's very diverse.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 10, 2020:

@mischl I'm sure that group exists in Florida. The ? is, same as here in Iowa, will they get fed up with all the backwardness in most of the state and leave for one of the more progressive parts of the country or not? If they leave, Florida will not change. Here in Iowa, the progressive types either leave or move to one of the university towns so they are not surrounded by ignorance and conservatives.

The next pandemic will be in mental health

nicknotes comments on Dec 10, 2020:

I'm 78 years old. When I was younger it seemed to me that people were smarter and mentally sound. Now in my 70s people seem dumb and unhinged. Is it something in the food or water?

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 10, 2020:

I blame it on our worsening educational system and the corporate media after the monopolization process of mass media that began in the 1970s. The educational system for those who don't go to college has long been geared to educate people just enough to run the machines, so to speak, but not enough to become informed, educated citizens who could intelligently critique and challenge their government or the capitalist system. The colleges also cooperate in this indoctrination by teaching most of their graduates to sell out to the system and become willing members of the coordinator class and spend their careers keeping the working class in line while opposing any reform of the system in favor of the working class and the poor.

Woke imperialism à la a Bennington ad.

KKGator comments on Dec 9, 2020:

Oh, FFS! No one is ever happy. Nothing is ever good enough. Given the monumental clusterfuck of the last four years, I'm not about to start complaining about the administration that hasn't even been sworn in yet. People make me so fucking tired. 🙄

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 10, 2020:

@RoboGraham As will I.

Woke imperialism à la a Bennington ad.

KKGator comments on Dec 9, 2020:

Oh, FFS! No one is ever happy. Nothing is ever good enough. Given the monumental clusterfuck of the last four years, I'm not about to start complaining about the administration that hasn't even been sworn in yet. People make me so fucking tired. 🙄

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 10, 2020:

@RoboGraham The complaining will make no difference. Biden doesn't need the left now that he's been elected. Rham spelled out that truth long ago, calling progressives retards. Once Bernie was stopped, the neoliberal centrists had won and after that they have no need to listen to progressives. We need our own party.

Do you think the Pandemic will change the way we shop permanently?

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 9, 2020:

I will always continue to do a fair amount of in person shopping, esp. for clothing and food, because I want to see in person what I'm buying, as well as the convenience and savings, as long as stores continue to allow in person shopping. With clothing I always want to be able to try things on to be...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 9, 2020:

@Leelu DaiseyMae blocked me, but Leelu can't resist the last word.....

Do you think the Pandemic will change the way we shop permanently?

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 9, 2020:

I will always continue to do a fair amount of in person shopping, esp. for clothing and food, because I want to see in person what I'm buying, as well as the convenience and savings, as long as stores continue to allow in person shopping. With clothing I always want to be able to try things on to be...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 9, 2020:

@Leelu Whatever. Like your words really hurt me. I won't be bullied by the self-appointed gender police.. I won't kiss ass to women on this site to be liked or popular, nor should you do that to be the same with men on here.

Pretty funny ad for match.com [youtube.com]

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 9, 2020:

Maybe the morals of the story are that there is a match for everyone and people get the partners they deserve.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 9, 2020:

@DaisyMaeNot Think what you like. You can always block me or delete the thread if you feel so mistreated.. Maybe you take yourself too seriously.

Do you think the Pandemic will change the way we shop permanently?

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 9, 2020:

I will always continue to do a fair amount of in person shopping, esp. for clothing and food, because I want to see in person what I'm buying, as well as the convenience and savings, as long as stores continue to allow in person shopping. With clothing I always want to be able to try things on to be...

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 9, 2020:

@Leelu Whatever. Sometimes the truth hurts. Maybe you should join DaisyMaeNot over on the the Online Dating group so you can both bash me for being honest. I'll say what I want. If you don't like it, block me or fuck off..

Pretty funny ad for match.com [youtube.com]

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 9, 2020:

Maybe the morals of the story are that there is a match for everyone and people get the partners they deserve.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 9, 2020:

@DaisyMaeNot Probably not. I haven't had a conversation with you about it in person or by phone, so I don't really know enough details and info. Mind your own business, maybe, rather than being the group police? How do I know you're not lying any more than you know if I am? Quit trying to judge or decide whose experience or opinions are valid or not. You are not authorized to judge that or decide who is allowed to be in this group and post comments or not. If you think you are, maybe you should ask to be a mod for the group. Until then, get off my back... Might also try spelling my name correctly...

Pretty funny ad for match.com [youtube.com]

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 9, 2020:

Maybe the morals of the story are that there is a match for everyone and people get the partners they deserve.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 9, 2020:

@DaisyMaeNot Suit yourself. I tell it like it is based on my experience and that of those I know. I will continue to speak it on this site and if you don't like it you can block me.

Pretty funny ad for match.com [youtube.com]

TomMcGiverin comments on Dec 9, 2020:

Maybe the morals of the story are that there is a match for everyone and people get the partners they deserve.

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 9, 2020:

@DaisyMaeNot Yup, need further explanation? I'm talking about people in general, not 2020 and Satan.

Love This. What do you think?

Alienbeing comments on Dec 3, 2020:

The "best" comment I ever heard/saw was several years ago when a man about 70 years old said to a TV interviewer (this is really true) "I want the Government to keep their hands off my Social Security".

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 3, 2020:

Some people's ignorance and stupidity know no bounds...

Biden economic team: Straight from Wall Street President-elect Joe Biden announced the second ...

Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Dec 1, 2020:

...but he's appointing a lot of women and minorities! They will be LGBTQ flag draped bombs!!! Why do you hate women and gay people? < sarcasm >

TomMcGiverin replies on Dec 1, 2020:

Same as the old bullshit accusations of racism against lefties like me for bashing Obama from the left, rather than the more likely racists bashing him from the right.

I read a New York Times article today about displaced families who are homeless due to the pandemic.

HippieChick58 comments on Nov 29, 2020:

That falls under the category of Thoughts and Prayers. They think if they turn it over to their imaginary god that their duty is done and they have "helped". It makes them feel good and lets them do nothing. Yes, it is stupid as hell. And yes, makes me mad as hell, too.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 29, 2020:

Thoughts and Prayers is a bullshit way for them to absolve themselves of any guilt or responsibility for not getting involved with helping others in need, even if it's indirectly by supporting government or non-profit programs to help those in need. Heaven forbid they should feel an obligation to donate money towards those non-profits or pay a tiny bit more in taxes to support government programs.

The French government is attempting to push through an authoritarian measure to restrict the filming...

FearlessFly comments on Nov 29, 2020:

I'm in favor of body cams and independent access of the videos. The "If they have nothing to hide" argument is based on the false premise -- if someone has something they would rather not make public the MUST be doing something wrong. :O

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 29, 2020:

@dermot235 I'm not saying they SHOULD leave, I am saying that in most cases they WILL leave. Because that, my friend is human nature. Most people take the path of least resistance, rather than courageously and selflessly doing the right thing. My guess is that in most police departments that are corrupt and filled with mostly racist cops, the good ones will either keep quiet or transfer to another department somewhere else where they can be good cops or have better conditions to work in. That may sound cynical, but that explains why we have so many police departments were things remain bad, because the good cops who do the right thing are outnumbered by bad cops.

The French government is attempting to push through an authoritarian measure to restrict the filming...

FearlessFly comments on Nov 29, 2020:

I'm in favor of body cams and independent access of the videos. The "If they have nothing to hide" argument is based on the false premise -- if someone has something they would rather not make public the MUST be doing something wrong. :O

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 29, 2020:

@RoboGraham That's a nice sentiment, but not likely to happen very often, esp. in departments where the brass are racist themselves. My guess is that most cops will not choose to be profiles in courage if they are part of the rank and file, esp. in cities where the job is already dangerous and stressful. They will instead usually choose to just relocate to another place where the job is easier and racism is not as prevalent in the department.

Getting back in the dating game. The search is daunting. What dating sites are recommended?

UUNJ comments on Nov 28, 2020:

I’ve been on Match 3 years and only got a couple of dates, all miserable. I’ve dated 3 people on this site. I’m also on Spiritual Singles but guess I’m not vegan or green enough for that audience.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 29, 2020:

@UUNJ Tomaeto, tomato... If you are a female seeking a male and most of the men are in that category, it means that you usually have to be in the same category as those men, or else your pickings will be slim..

The French government is attempting to push through an authoritarian measure to restrict the filming...

FearlessFly comments on Nov 29, 2020:

I'm in favor of body cams and independent access of the videos. The "If they have nothing to hide" argument is based on the false premise -- if someone has something they would rather not make public the MUST be doing something wrong. :O

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 29, 2020:

@dermot235 It's the same as racist cops murdering black people in the US. The solution to the problem is for cops to stop their brutality. That will end the harrassment and intimidation of cops by the public, not the prohibition of monitoring the cops. No justice, no peace... The choice is theirs and the ball is in their court. If the police departments will not get rid of their racist cops and the racism in their departments, then they deserve the hassle the cops are getting, at least on a collective level. If individual cops don't like being punished for the sins of their dept. or fellow cops, maybe they chose the wrong job.

Getting back in the dating game. The search is daunting. What dating sites are recommended?

UUNJ comments on Nov 28, 2020:

I’ve been on Match 3 years and only got a couple of dates, all miserable. I’ve dated 3 people on this site. I’m also on Spiritual Singles but guess I’m not vegan or green enough for that audience.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 28, 2020:

Never heard of Spiritual Singles, but I too am not a vegan or that green in my practices, so thanks for saving me time on that one. Sounds like a site for single UUs, most of whom are More-PC- Than -Thou.... I'm also guessing you have to be into meditation and other New Agey stuff as well.

I would like some opinions! (And these are examples of why some women are disdainful of some men .

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 28, 2020:

Gwen, you seem like a good egg from what I have read from you on the forum. You say you want opinions, but you may not like mine. Some women play just as many games as some men on dating sites. You have no control over how honest the other person will be. You can only be as honest and explicit as ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 28, 2020:

@Gwendolyn2018 There's nothing wrong with wanting what you want, I'm just saying there are very few single men out there who are either wanting the same thing as what you are stating or willing to settle for that. Most single men want to meet women who at least want an emotional relationship, regular contact and regular meeting in person, if not a sexual relationship as well. You want a phone/text buddy who also will meet for an occaisional meal. Few and far between pickings. Good luck.

New People Must MEET… 50+ Age group So, we find someone interesting, not TOO far away, we think...

Deb57 comments on Nov 28, 2020:

One of the reasons I decided to be here for community, and not to meet someone, is because the men who would contact me wanted to move far too fast. If I have learned nothing from internet relationships of all kinds, it's that it's way too easy to hide one's true character. Even if I met someone ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 28, 2020:

Sounds fair and reasonable.

I would like some opinions! (And these are examples of why some women are disdainful of some men .

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 28, 2020:

Gwen, you seem like a good egg from what I have read from you on the forum. You say you want opinions, but you may not like mine. Some women play just as many games as some men on dating sites. You have no control over how honest the other person will be. You can only be as honest and explicit as ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 28, 2020:

@Gwendolyn2018 It does and it doesn't. You want a platonic relationship that only involves meeting once in a while for meals and talk, not regular communication or contact in between meetings. That is much more limited than what most men would expect when you say you are looking for friends only. To me and most men, friends, male or female, means or implies an ongoing friendship where you talk regularly and get together more than just once in a blue moon. So, yes, you do need to add more explicit definition of what you want and are willing to be involved in.

I would like some opinions! (And these are examples of why some women are disdainful of some men .

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 28, 2020:

Gwen, you seem like a good egg from what I have read from you on the forum. You say you want opinions, but you may not like mine. Some women play just as many games as some men on dating sites. You have no control over how honest the other person will be. You can only be as honest and explicit as ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 28, 2020:

@Gwendolyn2018 Then explicitly say so, "Seeking only male friends for occaisional meals together", nothing more. The reason I thought you were after FWB is that almost nobody on a dating site is going to be interested in meeting and getting to know a woman simply to share a meal and conversation once in a while, at least not the men I have known in my life or the men I have heard about from dating sites. Maybe you are on there just for amusement more than you know or are letting on. No offense, Gwen, just saying how it looks based on what you have shared. The way most men I have known are wired they only want to meet women for three types of situations: Conventional relationships with sex and emotional attachment as part of a relationship. Platonic friendship. FWB. Of course, these only apply to men who are into monogamy. Once you open the field to those who into poly, then it expands considerably beyond the three types I listed.

I would like some opinions! (And these are examples of why some women are disdainful of some men .

Cyklone comments on Nov 28, 2020:

Unfortunately, some men, who have no respect, just work on percentage in that they believe that if they are "blunt" and "pressure" (lost for an adequate word here) every woman, a number will say yes. The sad truth is that it is a tactic that works, if all they want is sex. Your darling leader is ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 28, 2020:

I believe LBJ said exactly that about chasing women. Just be blunt and say you want sex when you go around approaching women. You'll usually get slapped, but sometimes you'll get lucky. Saves time when you are in a bar cruising...

I would like some opinions! (And these are examples of why some women are disdainful of some men .

ASTRALMAX comments on Nov 28, 2020:

What puzzles me is the you met a guy who wanted much more than friendship which was all you were seeking from a relationship, am I correct so far? If so, why did you invite him to your house a second time?

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 28, 2020:

Good point.

I would like some opinions! (And these are examples of why some women are disdainful of some men .

Seeker3CO comments on Nov 28, 2020:

It is all in the "some". Some men are like this. Some women are like this. I had a woman turn me down on a dating site because I wanted to do something other than go drinking with her. Many people "shop" the sites based on incomes, height, weight, religion, so many different factors. We have to ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 28, 2020:

Right on. It is what it is and dating sites show the full spectrum of who is out there in the dating world, except maybe for the beautiful and charismatic who organically meet enough suitors to have no need for a dating site. Our politics these days already shows that most Americans are fucked up in the head. Dating sites give you the opportunity to contact many more people than you might ever meet organically without them. Other than that they are very poor vehicles for meeting people that meet your wants and needs. For that, you are completely on your own and at the mercy of your own screening processes and their interest and ability to be honest with you.

Getting back in the dating game. The search is daunting. What dating sites are recommended?

Boomtarat03 comments on Nov 28, 2020:

Agnostic.com 😉🙃

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 28, 2020:

What a joke. Almost nobody who lives in a rural area or a Bible Belt state is likely to meet anybody to date on here, that is unless they are willing to travel hundreds of miles or more to meet. I take a hard pass on that.

Getting back in the dating game. The search is daunting. What dating sites are recommended?

Sticks48 comments on Nov 28, 2020:

Having checked them out, they all seem kind of the same. This is the best format where you actually see what peoples ideas are on different subjects. There are also phony pictures and profiles planted by the site to keep folks interested.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 28, 2020:

True that. The other thing is that nowadays most of the sites have cut back the format on member profiles to where about all you have to go on are photos and a very skimpy amount of info on the member. The lack of real competition in the industry, just as in other ones with monopolization, has led to a race to the bottom in the level of service and content offered to customers. Too bad the paid dating sites with big memberships, many times the size of Agnostic, don't have a format like Agnostic. But they don't, because it would be too expensive and unprofitable for them to run the forums and maintain the site compared to their cheap formats like Match, etc. And also, it really isn't profitable for them if most of their customers find someone to date early on, so why would they want to have a format that actually succeeds for most customers? Too bad we don't have them regulated like utilities, which the internet also should be treated as a utility.

Current sign in my front yard, following this years election - 2020

yvilletom comments on Nov 27, 2020:

Most creative. Thank you for sharing. America’s unregulated capitalism is the soil in which Trump and others like him grow. I’m not a socialist; I want employees to own the companies they work for. Harvard Business Review said they will be kinder to the environment, which needs some TLC.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 28, 2020:

@prometheus Hadn't heard of that podcast. I've just been informally studying politics and reading alternative political news and commentary for decades, that's how I wised up to the duopoly. Listening to Nader has taught me a lot about it also. My money is on the civil war happening, assuming the ruling class allows it to happen without the cops and military intervening to prevent it. The events of last summer around the BLM protests were not encouraging in that regard. The cops either took sides with the fascist groups or stayed out of the way.

Current sign in my front yard, following this years election - 2020

yvilletom comments on Nov 27, 2020:

Most creative. Thank you for sharing. America’s unregulated capitalism is the soil in which Trump and others like him grow. I’m not a socialist; I want employees to own the companies they work for. Harvard Business Review said they will be kinder to the environment, which needs some TLC.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 27, 2020:

Unregulated capitalism resulting in the complete capture of the mass media and the federal government by both parties of the duopoly which are owned by the ruling class and corporations. The result of all this is two major parties which are totally beholden to the latter two groups and unresponsive to the voters on any issues where those two groups of funders want something different in policies. Which leaves pretty much identity politics and culture war issues for prez candidates to campaign on. Thus, we get perfect conditions for a racist con man and demagogue like Trump to succeed in exploiting the culture war issues and identity politics. All of these conditions and problems will be around long after Trump has left the spotlight and the Dem party loyalists who are currently celebrating like the nightmare is over and all will be well are fools. They should be seeing it for what it is, a temporary reprieve before the Repubs win back control of the fed govt. in two or four years.

Britain’s Class War on Children This is what poverty does.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 27, 2020:

The US and the UK are so similar. Each has their two major parties that both hate and beat on the poor. Only the names of the parties are different. Both nations put the military budget far ahead of providing for the needs of the masses. The one difference is that in the UK most people are keenly ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 27, 2020:

@William_Mary But I suppose one diff between those other western countries is that their politics is not as money-dominated as the US.

Another meaning for other people's

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 27, 2020:

And yet, no doubt, you and other conservatives and libertarians seem to be entirely ok with how corporations and the rich continually steal from the working class and the rest of us peasants with tax cuts for just the wealthy, corporate welfare, and the military industrial complex. That kind of ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 27, 2020:

@Thirst2learn Why not crawl back into your hole with the other conservative atheists?

Another meaning for other people's

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 27, 2020:

And yet, no doubt, you and other conservatives and libertarians seem to be entirely ok with how corporations and the rich continually steal from the working class and the rest of us peasants with tax cuts for just the wealthy, corporate welfare, and the military industrial complex. That kind of ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 27, 2020:

@Thirst2learn It is when the tax cuts give almost all of the benefits to the rich. You failed to address the rest of my comment.

COVID UPDATES in my area of Missouri.

Larimar comments on Nov 26, 2020:

Yeah, St Charles county says all bars must close by 11. Guess you can't get the rona before that. IDIOTS!

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 27, 2020:

In Iowa, the magic deadline is 10 pm. Like the virus is on a clock and half-assed measures like this will make any diff.

These secrets to a happy and satisfying relationship certainly make sense to me.

Lorajay comments on Nov 26, 2020:

She took over his business affairs and got him out of debt.He was addicted to gambling and in the first years of their marriage he actually lost all of his money including all of her clothes. From what I've read their mutual interest was that they eventually both became mutually interested in her...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 27, 2020:

Sounds like true love and an ideal match to me.

It’s becoming more real every day.

powder comments on Nov 26, 2020:

During Victoria's lockdown in Australia, the premier held daily "briefings". The backdrop prominently displayed the slogan "Staying apart keeps us together" which I thought was straight out of 1984.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 26, 2020:

It might have been more appropriate to have it read, Staying Apart Keeps Us Alive".

Third parties, even Ross Perot’s well-funded Reform Party in 1992, have failed to upset ...

Krish55 comments on Nov 26, 2020:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtius23I34k

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 26, 2020:

Interesting to hear this as I have always only heard Ringo's versions of this. Didn't know George had ever recorded it. In some ways this sounds like a demo.

Jasper just discovered the ceiling.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 26, 2020:

Nice that you gave him a perch or two where he can survey his kingdom.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 26, 2020:

@Zster I am sure your cats appreciate you for their shelves.

Went to the grocery store and this lady wasn’t wearing a mask when it says RIGHT ON THE DOOR, ...

BTHT comments on Nov 25, 2020:

Can'ts tells me whats to do. I gots writes!

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 26, 2020:

I'm assuming the misspelling is intentional and sarcastic. It's true that some Trumpers are poor spellers.

Went to the grocery store and this lady wasn’t wearing a mask when it says RIGHT ON THE DOOR, ...

Larimar comments on Nov 25, 2020:

I yelled at one entering the other day on this topic. One of the clerks ran over and escorted her out.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 26, 2020:

I'm amazed they enforced it.

Went to the grocery store and this lady wasn’t wearing a mask when it says RIGHT ON THE DOOR, ...

freedom41 comments on Nov 26, 2020:

That would piss off alot of up tight morons in this area. Especially with what lost the election.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 26, 2020:

The maskholes and Trumpers tend to be one and the same in my area.

A Man-Child in A Promised Land Paul Street: "Reading between the lines of the ...

gigihein comments on Nov 25, 2020:

I feel there is a loathing in politics for the poor. Their issues are raised only before the ballots are certified. They are an inconvenience and the part of their constituants who they cant or wont serve because it goes against paying their debt to all their donors. They give lip service, if that ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 26, 2020:

@rainmanjr Obama had a supermajority in both parts of congress when he took office and yet he didn't even try to pass card check for the unions in his administration. So he was nothing but li[ service, if that, towards the unions. You really think Biden will be any better on helping all Americans who want or need unions being able to get and join one? And even if he did, what good will it do as most of the jobs either become automated or shipped overseas? Unions will not the end all answer for what is wrong with our economy.

A Man-Child in A Promised Land Paul Street: "Reading between the lines of the ...

Theresa_N comments on Nov 25, 2020:

Some of the most ardent defenders of neo-liberalism and the american status quo have been black. Obama is just chief among them.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 25, 2020:

@rainmanjr Believe what you want and I'll concede that I am white, but the fact that most blacks feel Obama is not an Uncle Tom means little by itself. For that matter, most blacks still feel OJ was innocent and yet the evidence says otherwise. Almost all whites agree OJ was guilty of murder, for example. Race loyalty is not proof of innocence or virtue by itself, and race loyalty is what most blacks are basing their opinions on in both of these cases, whether you accept that or not.

A Man-Child in A Promised Land Paul Street: "Reading between the lines of the ...

Theresa_N comments on Nov 25, 2020:

Some of the most ardent defenders of neo-liberalism and the american status quo have been black. Obama is just chief among them.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 25, 2020:

And yet when you point out to someone who defends these sellouts that blacks like Obama are Uncle Toms who are totally out of touch with average income blacks, they refuse to see the truth in any of that and accuse you of being racist.

Just realized I hit 3 years being on Agnostic.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 24, 2020:

I joined at the end of 2017. Seems like in the last year a lot fewer new people are joining and a ton of members from the early days have left for good.So as far as this being a flourishing community, I have to disagree. I don't see as many new or interesting posts as I did a couple years ago and I ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 24, 2020:

@sassygirl3869 Thanks, but I'll pass. I prefer either one to one chats, in person or online, or, failing that, group chats in person. Anything else I feel sort of lost or uncomfortable trying to engage and flow with.

Surprise! America Is Getting Another Psycho For Secretary Of State [caitlinjohnstone.

altschmerz comments on Nov 24, 2020:

So who’s going to hold Biden and his gang accountable? MSNBC? The New York Times? The ladies on “The View”?

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 24, 2020:

If he were still alive, I'd say "I'll take Nobody for $500, Alex", but since he's now dead, I'll say Ken....

Those of us who have joined in with chats have spoken of past spouses and relationships.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 23, 2020:

He was actually dying when he wrote the songs and recorded the vocals. The rest of the recording process was finished after his death by his son and another collaborator, so it's really more of a posthumous recording than his last conventional album, You Want It Darker. The song is a waltz.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 23, 2020:

@tinkercreek No, and why are you so sensitive? Frankie Says Relax..

Those of us who have joined in with chats have spoken of past spouses and relationships.

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 23, 2020:

He was actually dying when he wrote the songs and recorded the vocals. The rest of the recording process was finished after his death by his son and another collaborator, so it's really more of a posthumous recording than his last conventional album, You Want It Darker. The song is a waltz.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 23, 2020:

@tinkercreek Yup, his son Adam Cohen.

MSM Already Helping Next Administration Hide Corruption Under ‘Diversity’ Banner There has ...

FrayedBear comments on Nov 22, 2020:

Out of the frying pan & into the fire? Most telling: " “More than half of the transition staff — 52 percent — are women, and 53 percent of senior staff are women.” Meanwhile exactly zero percent of them oppose war, nuclear brinkmanship, starvation sanctions and imperialism. Zero percent...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 22, 2020:

Right on, what matters is where they're at on policy. As Thurgood Marshall said when he was told that Bush was going to replace him on the SC with another black man, who turned out to be Clarence Thomas, "It's not important that he replace me with another nigger. It's that it needs to be the right nigger". I could be wrong about if he used the N-word or not, but my point stands...

MSM Already Helping Next Administration Hide Corruption Under ‘Diversity’ Banner There has ...

altschmerz comments on Nov 22, 2020:

There was a member here who was a Trump supporter. He and I became friends, I don't know what attracted him to me so much (he kept saying he'd tell me, but never got around to it) but he got me involved in @kenriley's group "Common Ground", which Ken handed to me when he got too busy to frequent ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 22, 2020:

It will change when enough people with shitty lives under the rigged system start to realize that you can't feed yourself or pay your bills with diversity in government, and then act on that realization by supporting and voting for a third party that is actually progressive on issues that improve the lives of the masses and take back power from the ruling class. I'm not holding my breath on it.

Are there many success stories here for online dating sites?

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 21, 2020:

You definitely beat the odds, esp. since the relationship was techinically LD. I met someone on Match that I dated steadily for about six months before it ended, partly due to Covid. It was someone local, BTW. The next time I try online dating, after Covid blows over maybe this summer or next fall ...

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 21, 2020:

@DaisyMaeNot Same here. After a while I lost count and no longer kept track of who I had met. Got really sort of tired and bored with all of what I call coffee interviews, where I meet them the first time for coffee and the woman conducts what seemed way too much like a job interview.

What Trump Showed Us About America

davknight comments on Nov 21, 2020:

Is it really any surprise that half of the U.S. electorate can be suckered into voting a fascist moron into the highest office in the land? The Trump era was a close call, which we still aren't done with. What happens when a smarter, craftier Mussolini wannabe comes along?

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 21, 2020:

No shit. Whoever the Repubs run next time will be even worse, but way slicker and smarter. Covid will be pretty much over, the economy may or may not be good by then. And the new administration will have done it's usual job of ignoring and betraying the working class. We will not be this lucky next time.

How do we define “physical connection” during a pandemic?

indelible comments on Nov 17, 2020:

I suppose you can still feel like you're clicking or sparking or not sparking with someone even if you like other things about them.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 18, 2020:

@UUNJ I am well aware of that fact and, as a socialist and pro-feminist male, I am on the side of equality. My math still stands. I simply don't want someone depending on me financially to be able to afford dining out, travelling, or paying for entertainment, much less for their economic survival. It's not like I even plan on living very large the rest of my life, taking European vacations every few months, etc. Or dining out at expensive places every week, etc. I own and live in a condo apt. and have no intention of adding more. I live relatively frugally and will probably remain that way for the most part.

How do we define “physical connection” during a pandemic?

indelible comments on Nov 17, 2020:

I suppose you can still feel like you're clicking or sparking or not sparking with someone even if you like other things about them.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 18, 2020:

@UUNJ A very wise and reasonable standard. I feel the same. I have enough money to live comfortably in my present permanent retirement, but I won't be someone's choice to be with me so they can have a much more comfortable lifestyle, much less be their meal ticket or sugar daddy. But that's not to say that here in traditional-minded Iowa, most women I meet from dating sites are out to "marry up" in their next relationship, which to me seems too much like gold-digging lite. I will not be played or suckered by that and it's one reason I am not really interested in getting married again. If I ever did, I would demand a prenup. I also make it clear early in the dating process that I am gladly willing to treat someone occaisionally to meals and even travel later on in a commited relationship, but in the courting stage I expect the woman to have her own money and pay her own way, since, she should be investing just as much money and time in a budding relationship as me, don't you think? And if she can't afford that, then maybe she's too poor for me in the first place and I would later be constantly put in the position of having to "level up" her inferior wealth so we could travel or entertain ourselves together. I know damn well that I have probably been passed over by women in the last couple years for the same reason, that I am not on their financial level, so what's wrong with me having the same standard?

Trump is determined leave America in the most vulnerable position possible since he was not ...

TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 17, 2020:

Not that surprising. Trump has never had any real patriotism, only the fake, symbolic, rah-rah type that his fans eat up. He won't pay his taxes and he dodged the draft with phony medical claims. That should tell you all you need to know about his real amount of patriotism.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 18, 2020:

@GipsyOfNewSpain Biden's spot on the ballot may as well have read "None Of The Above" instead of Biden, because that's what most of his votes came from. Not that any of his partisan supporters or the DNC will ever admit it.

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TomMcGiverin comments on Nov 17, 2020:

I agree. While I really want him gone from politics, I don't know that he's evil enough to wish him dead from Covid. I do remember what a dick he was during the Clarence Thomas hearings as well as the recent Kavanaugh ones as well. He also has been a shameless ass-kissing defender of Trump.

TomMcGiverin replies on Nov 18, 2020:

@Canndue We can always hope.