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Too many people on this site are focused on Trump as the bad guy and NOT on the long game.
BitFlipper comments on Mar 10, 2020:
There's only one nonviolent way to change the Constitution, and it means using the present system cleverly and effectively. All the other options involve Bloodshed and violence.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 10, 2020:
I'm more pessimistic than that. I think systemic change or revolution in the US will inevitably be violent. The ruling class will not allow anything less, and I'm also afraid the good guys will lose that one.
I have noticed quite a few negative comments regarding the cognitive skills of one Democratic ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 8, 2020:
Biden's problems in identifying who someone is or what day an event is on or which office he is running for are not related to stuttering. He is in the early stages of dementia or has mild dementia already. I know a thing or two about it as my late wife suffered and died from it. I recognize some ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 10, 2020:
@kensmile4u Give it a rest pal. You are clearly a die hard Biden supporter, while RoboGraham and I are Bernie supporters. We got your point. You need to get a clue and drop it. Enjoy your loss, not ours, this Nov..We will say what we want and if you want to cry about it, contact the admin. Good luck with that too......
If the stock market crashes with accompanying economic downturn,do you think it will benefit Dems or...
racocn8 comments on Mar 9, 2020:
My prediction is that the downturn will be shortlived for 60% of the losses; it will make back 15% of 25% lost, and gradually add back the other 10%. Most of this depends on the inroads the pandemic makes in the US, and not much for other countries, even China. China's losses will hurt, but their ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 9, 2020:
I agree with most of your predictions. Whether this crisis and Trump's mishandling of it is enough, along with the economic impact, to lose him the election is still very hard to say. It depends a lot on how long a memory the independent voters have.
"Bernie has already won.
RoboGraham comments on Mar 9, 2020:
It's a nice way to think about it and he certainly has done a lot of good no matter how it turns out. But if they nominate Biden, he will have lost to a corrupt system
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 9, 2020:
I agree that a Biden nomination means the corrupt system wins and any movement in the party to the left on policy is meaningless, because Biden does not support any of those policy positions nor does he support any fundamental change.
Biden announces to the world that "We cannot win this re-election, excuse me, we can only re-elect ...
Athena comments on Mar 8, 2020:
Even if this video has been edited, Biden has made many other gaffes that have shown he's no match for Trump. The republicans will have these running on a loop. I'm not even close to giving up on Bernie. The tides turned for Joe after Amy and Pete dropped out, and they could turn again once he ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 9, 2020:
@Athena I hope you're right, but I am very pessimistic. The format for the next debate has been altered to protect Biden as much as possible and make it hard for Bernie to attack him.
It's now clear that the only way Bernie can get the nomination is if Warren drops out and endorses ...
Aurora62 comments on Mar 9, 2020:
Warren is a fake progressive. She went on Rachel Maddow and spent time complaining about online Bernie supporters being mean to her. They have every right to be mean to her because she is hurting the movement that is seeking real change for all people and especially the people that have been ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 9, 2020:
I saw her interview with Maddow and I totally agree. The whole Bernie Bros. thing may even be a fake trolling thing designed to hurt Bernie, but even if isn't, online trolling is still trivial compared to all the bigger issues that this campaign is about. Bernie's record and personal life are squeaky clean, so this is all his critics have to use against him. Rather pathetic...
Biden announces to the world that "We cannot win this re-election, excuse me, we can only re-elect ...
Athena comments on Mar 8, 2020:
Even if this video has been edited, Biden has made many other gaffes that have shown he's no match for Trump. The republicans will have these running on a loop. I'm not even close to giving up on Bernie. The tides turned for Joe after Amy and Pete dropped out, and they could turn again once he ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 9, 2020:
@Athena, @bingst I don't want an unlected person running the country, whether they are a centrist or even a leftist. I still care about having a democracy and what you are suggesting is undemocratic.
Biden announces to the world that "We cannot win this re-election, excuse me, we can only re-elect ...
Athena comments on Mar 8, 2020:
Even if this video has been edited, Biden has made many other gaffes that have shown he's no match for Trump. The republicans will have these running on a loop. I'm not even close to giving up on Bernie. The tides turned for Joe after Amy and Pete dropped out, and they could turn again once he ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 9, 2020:
@Athena I think Bernie is too nice to do what both you and I would like him to do with Biden in the final two debates. We will see. He also has had a long time to call out all the conspiring against him by the establishment and hasn't done that either. He does know that unless he really goes after Biden, this race is over.
Biden announces to the world that "We cannot win this re-election, excuse me, we can only re-elect ...
Athena comments on Mar 8, 2020:
Even if this video has been edited, Biden has made many other gaffes that have shown he's no match for Trump. The republicans will have these running on a loop. I'm not even close to giving up on Bernie. The tides turned for Joe after Amy and Pete dropped out, and they could turn again once he ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 9, 2020:
@Athena Biden will pick Klobuchar as his VP. She already let that accidentally slip a couple days ago while campaigning for him. The host in the video's final line is the hard truth. The establishment would rather lose with a corporate centrist who will continue their corrupt gravy train than win with a leftist.
I have noticed quite a few negative comments regarding the cognitive skills of one Democratic ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 8, 2020:
Biden's problems in identifying who someone is or what day an event is on or which office he is running for are not related to stuttering. He is in the early stages of dementia or has mild dementia already. I know a thing or two about it as my late wife suffered and died from it. I recognize some ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 9, 2020:
@RoboGraham I sympathize, but, trust me, the Dem establishment will not notice or care about Bernie supporters voting third party. The only thing that would get their attention and teach them anything would be if Bernie ran as an independent or third party this fall and took 20 or 30% of the vote. That would teach them a lesson, but Bernie will never do that. Too loyal to the party that shits on him.
I have noticed quite a few negative comments regarding the cognitive skills of one Democratic ...
RoboGraham comments on Mar 8, 2020:
I know what a stutter sounds like. It's not a matter of stuttering. It's a matter of confusion and lapses in memory. It's not that he is struggling to get words out, the words are coming out clearly but they are incorrect. Like when he said he was running for Senate, or when he called himself an ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 9, 2020:
Exactly. His problem is mental processing, not getting the words out of his mouth properly. He is genuinely confused about facts and his orientation to time, place, etc..
I have noticed quite a few negative comments regarding the cognitive skills of one Democratic ...
David1955 comments on Mar 9, 2020:
I'm am truly sorry for the man if he is at an early stage of dementia or something like it. But the truth is he did well last week in most of those states because he HADN'T been in them much, or talking publicly. He is a man walking into a Trump slaughter house, a man with more baggage that Grand ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 9, 2020:
You have eloquently stated everything I've been thinking on this subject. The rigging of the Dem nomination process in favor of Biden is the full measure of how much the Dem party hates Bernie and the lengths they will go to stop him. I hope the Biden supporters and the Dem leaders behind his nomination enjoy the full suffering they deserve in watching him go down in flames this fall....
I’m just wondering, being on the outside looking in, is the American Democrat voters’ ideal to ...
skado comments on Mar 8, 2020:
My sense of it is that a majority of Democrats just want Trump out. And then there’s a sizable minority who specifically want Bernie in. I haven’t heard anybody say “If Biden (Warren, Buttigieg, etc.) isn’t the nominee, I won’t vote.” It’s mostly the “Blue-No-Matter-Who” crowd ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 8, 2020:
@Sticks48 We'll see if they get to see enough of Biden's dementia in the final two debates and if they are still comfortable with him after that sinks in, probably too late tho for Bernie to come back. I hope they see before the convention what a mistake it will be to nominate him.
Biden announces to the world that "We cannot win this re-election, excuse me, we can only re-elect ...
Athena comments on Mar 8, 2020:
Even if this video has been edited, Biden has made many other gaffes that have shown he's no match for Trump. The republicans will have these running on a loop. I'm not even close to giving up on Bernie. The tides turned for Joe after Amy and Pete dropped out, and they could turn again once he ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 8, 2020:
The DNC just announced that the next debate will have Bernie and Biden seated, while also there will be audience ?s instead of all the ?s from moderators. Undoubtedly, it's all to protect Biden and hide his dementia. His new nickname should be Hidin' Biden....I think it may be too late and Bernie missed his last chance to go after Biden in a debate. The April debate will also undoubtedly be rigged to protect Biden. It's not just this clip. In South Carolina a week or so ago, Biden said that he was running for the Senate, not the presidency. He also referred to the upcoming primary as Super Thursday, not Super Tuesday. Small things do matter when they make you look out of it. Those of us old enough to remember Reagan and how demented he seemed in the 80s (and it turned out we were right, he had dementia even in his first term) are going to notice this and think twice about electing another demented old person.
A few of his successes..
yvilletom comments on Mar 7, 2020:
But to do what he and we want, Bernie needs social democrats in Congress. Savior presidents don’t exist_
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 7, 2020:
@RoboGraham My money is on complicity.
It is all very obvious.
IrishTxJudy comments on Mar 7, 2020:
You are very correct. While I don’t live in the UK, there are many “prosperity” churches here in Texas that make me want to throw up. Yes, if you have enough faith, god will meet your needs, and heal you. Hell, just give us all your money and trust the Lort to meet you needs? Don’t you trust...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 7, 2020:
@Sgt_Spanky Just like the house in Vegas, they always win either way...
A few of his successes..
yvilletom comments on Mar 7, 2020:
But to do what he and we want, Bernie needs social democrats in Congress. Savior presidents don’t exist_
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 7, 2020:
@RoboGraham Your point about the Bernie Bros being a tiny problem compared to our widespread society problems is right on, and I have seen that counter-argument being used by both Bernie and his surrogates in the corporate media, but I wonder how effective it is, when most Americans do not get nuance or complexity in discussions. I admit that all they have to attack Bernie on is his socialist label, his remarks on Cuba and other governments that aren't capitalists, and the Bernie Bros. Warren was really a snake in her interview with Rachel Maddow smearing Bernie as much as she could on the Bernie Bros issue.
A few of his successes..
yvilletom comments on Mar 7, 2020:
But to do what he and we want, Bernie needs social democrats in Congress. Savior presidents don’t exist_
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 7, 2020:
@RoboGraham It's possible that the economy may crash before the election, at least the stock market, because of the coronavirus, and if it does, Trump might lose because of that and his mismanagement of it. Unlike Hurricane Katrina, which W totally blew, this crisis will affect most working class white people, including many who voted for Trump.
A few of his successes..
yvilletom comments on Mar 7, 2020:
But to do what he and we want, Bernie needs social democrats in Congress. Savior presidents don’t exist_
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 7, 2020:
@RoboGraham I often wonder tho if the whole Bernie Bros thing might really be a false flag run against Bernie by online trolls who are really Russian or Repub operatives. These days, you can't be too paranoid. I have heard Bernie suggest that the Bernie Bros thing might be a fake thing perpetrated by people who aren't his supporters that is done to hurt him. Whether that is or isn't the case, there really isn't a good way to defend himself on that without airtight proof of a plot, because the feminists will never believe him if he denies it without proof.
A few of his successes..
yvilletom comments on Mar 7, 2020:
But to do what he and we want, Bernie needs social democrats in Congress. Savior presidents don’t exist_
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 7, 2020:
@RoboGraham Now that you've explained it, I totally agree. I also think that all the Russiagate stuff from the Dems and corporate media during the last couple years served two purposes as well. It allowed them to fill air time during the Bernie blackout and it also served as a distraction on how the Dems were not even attempting to serve the interests of the masses while blaming their loss in 2016 on anyone but Hillary and the party's contempt for working class Americans. The point of my earlier post is that it was a waste of time as far as actually trying to remove him from office or hurt his re-election chances.
A few of his successes..
yvilletom comments on Mar 7, 2020:
But to do what he and we want, Bernie needs social democrats in Congress. Savior presidents don’t exist_
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 7, 2020:
@RoboGraham I agree with you that the whole impeachment attempt ended up being a waste of time by the Dems and will now only help Trump in the general. You are one of the few lefties who seems to agree wtih me about that.
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RoboGraham comments on Mar 7, 2020:
There is another presidential contender who has his sights set on social security and medicare.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 7, 2020:
Meaning Biden. Even Obama was looking at cutting SS, Medicare and Medicaid. Only a progressive prez will keep those programs safe, not a corporate Dem.
Do you fear a possible coronavirus pandemic?
TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 7, 2020:
This virus will mainly kill off the elderly and the working poor, both of which are groups that the ruling class sees as expendable. The working poor can easily replaced by more of the same, so no need for the government to help them with a financial bailout to cover medical costs and paid sick ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 7, 2020:
@RoboGraham I just got pissed at him because he dismissed your post as Dem talking points and then labelled my comment a baseless reply. Too much of a dick for me.
Do you fear a possible coronavirus pandemic?
TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 7, 2020:
This virus will mainly kill off the elderly and the working poor, both of which are groups that the ruling class sees as expendable. The working poor can easily replaced by more of the same, so no need for the government to help them with a financial bailout to cover medical costs and paid sick ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 7, 2020:
@RoboGraham I blocked Bobby9.
Do you fear a possible coronavirus pandemic?
TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 7, 2020:
This virus will mainly kill off the elderly and the working poor, both of which are groups that the ruling class sees as expendable. The working poor can easily replaced by more of the same, so no need for the government to help them with a financial bailout to cover medical costs and paid sick ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 7, 2020:
@Bobby9 Suit yourself..
A few of his successes..
Bobbyzen comments on Mar 6, 2020:
If Biden is the nominee, Trump will skewer him on his record, not to mention his plagiarism, his corporate donors, his sexism, his cognitive issues...and if Biden fights back with similar slings, it turns into a food fight, which will hurt Biden more because he will be dragged down into Trump’s ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 6, 2020:
I agree. Too bad the whole party and the corporate media are all teaming up to make sure he doesn't beat Biden.
"If you are somehow still wondering why Black, Brown, poor and young people - the Bernie Folx - ...
JackPedigo comments on Mar 5, 2020:
So what's the solution? A vote for an old, extreme left leaning candidate who will have a large portion of the country against him? I think the model of putting Biden on equal footing as tRump is way over the top. Relationships including politics are always about compromise. Traditionally, the ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 6, 2020:
@JackPedigo Yes, we all lose and suffer from it, but it's your blame, not mine. I backed someone who could beat Trump, you didn't. It's that simple.
Can anyone tell me if this is a red flag?
TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 6, 2020:
It sounds like the "testing" you are suggesting is a form of game playing. I am against game-playing by anyone in the dating process. Just be honest and answer, or don't answer their messaging by being straight up with them. I know that I would resent anyone who seemed to be testing me.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 6, 2020:
@demifeministgal We're done and you're blocked.
Can anyone tell me if this is a red flag?
TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 6, 2020:
It sounds like the "testing" you are suggesting is a form of game playing. I am against game-playing by anyone in the dating process. Just be honest and answer, or don't answer their messaging by being straight up with them. I know that I would resent anyone who seemed to be testing me.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 6, 2020:
@demifeministgal Not going to argue it with you or anyone else. You posted here, which implies you wanted feedback. You got it from me. Deal with it or not......
‪This 'gay, atheist, leftist' is taking on Poland's right-wing government — by running for ...
RussRAB comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I thought Pete Buttigieg made an excellent candidate in the Democratic Primary. He had impressive educational background, impressive military service, he was well spoken and steady when fielding criticism, etc. I would have rather he had a bit more experience in office although being mayor isn't a ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 6, 2020:
@RussRAB True.
"If you are somehow still wondering why Black, Brown, poor and young people - the Bernie Folx - ...
JackPedigo comments on Mar 5, 2020:
So what's the solution? A vote for an old, extreme left leaning candidate who will have a large portion of the country against him? I think the model of putting Biden on equal footing as tRump is way over the top. Relationships including politics are always about compromise. Traditionally, the ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 6, 2020:
@JackPedigo All I can say is enjoy your loss, not mine, in November when your establishment candidate loses to Trump. Your fault, not mine...
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TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 5, 2020:
If Biden is nominated, Trump will win and progressives will have to hope our democracy survives and we can support AOC for prez in four years. Whether she sells out and endorses Biden or not now, I think Warren's time will be past in four years should she be thinking of running again then. No way ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 6, 2020:
@Athena No, I need to stay where my friends are and the food is familiar and enjoyable. I will die here, probably preceded by a lot of despair and unhappiness about how things keep getting worse with the country and the society.
‪This 'gay, atheist, leftist' is taking on Poland's right-wing government — by running for ...
RussRAB comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I thought Pete Buttigieg made an excellent candidate in the Democratic Primary. He had impressive educational background, impressive military service, he was well spoken and steady when fielding criticism, etc. I would have rather he had a bit more experience in office although being mayor isn't a ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 6, 2020:
@RussRAB As I said above, to me character is a separate thing from identity politics. Identity politics is bad for our democracy because it encourages tribalism, which is making our political choices too much on whether a candidate is part of our "tribe" by being gay, the same gender or race, etc. My prime example in the US is all the black voters, mainly older blacks, who voted for Biden on Tue., mainly because Biden was Obama's VP, so these blacks transferred their loyalty to Biden, even tho Biden's record does not show great loyalty or alliance towards blacks on policy. But tribalism trumps policy and character in this case. Same thing four years ago with blacks who voted for Hillary in the primaries only because her husband Bill was popular with blacks. Neither Clinton, Bill or Hillary, nor Obama or Biden ever did that much for the economic situations of most working class black people, but they did fill their cabinets with black people and helped the black upper class. But working class blacks seem content to settle for the scraps of having people who look like them in those prez administrations because of their tribal loyalty. Suckers......
‪This 'gay, atheist, leftist' is taking on Poland's right-wing government — by running for ...
RussRAB comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I thought Pete Buttigieg made an excellent candidate in the Democratic Primary. He had impressive educational background, impressive military service, he was well spoken and steady when fielding criticism, etc. I would have rather he had a bit more experience in office although being mayor isn't a ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 6, 2020:
I think you are totally wrong about Mayor Wall Street Pete. He is a corrupt CIA spook who had nothing positive to offer the US. See Athena's comment above. He is a poster child for what is wrong with people getting hung up on identity politics.
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TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 5, 2020:
If Biden is nominated, Trump will win and progressives will have to hope our democracy survives and we can support AOC for prez in four years. Whether she sells out and endorses Biden or not now, I think Warren's time will be past in four years should she be thinking of running again then. No way ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 6, 2020:
@Athena I don't think we can afford to wait until 2028. Our so-called democracy will be gone by then. We are probably doomed then.
Elizabeth Warren drops out of the 2020 presidential race - I wish she would have dropped out before ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 5, 2020:
Me too, but she deserved the chance to see how she did on Super Tuesday first. Don't look for her to endorse Bernie, may not even endorse anyone, but my guess is she will make some deal with Biden and support him for a spot in his admin., not that it's ever going to happen when he loses to Trump if ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 6, 2020:
@Athena Even if she doesn't endorse Biden, I've heard that there are some Dems in her state that want to see her primaried next time she runs for Senate. She finished third in the MA primary, so she's vulnerable for sure.
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TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 5, 2020:
If Biden is nominated, Trump will win and progressives will have to hope our democracy survives and we can support AOC for prez in four years. Whether she sells out and endorses Biden or not now, I think Warren's time will be past in four years should she be thinking of running again then. No way ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 6, 2020:
@Athena I thought she would be 35 in four years. How old is she now?
I mourn the loss of my candidate Elizabeth Warren but realized it was going to happen even before I ...
DavidDuhon comments on Mar 5, 2020:
She was a worthy candidate, and I value the primaries--flawed and manipulated by the DNC as they are--for more than just picking a candidate. We get to see candidates unfold, not just their ideas, but how well they hold up on the trail and how well they debate. She would be a valuable VP for ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 5, 2020:
I think she would help Biden if he offered her the VP and she took it, but I highly doubt she wants to settle for that or that he would offer it to her, because a ticket of two elderly people is asking too much of the voters to risk supporting. Both Biden and Warren know that. I also think that this was her one chance and that four years from now her time will be past. AOC will be the best female candidate four years from now on the Dem side.
"If you are somehow still wondering why Black, Brown, poor and young people - the Bernie Folx - ...
JackPedigo comments on Mar 5, 2020:
So what's the solution? A vote for an old, extreme left leaning candidate who will have a large portion of the country against him? I think the model of putting Biden on equal footing as tRump is way over the top. Relationships including politics are always about compromise. Traditionally, the ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 5, 2020:
In a word, yes, the solution would be nominating Bernie. How will we ever really know if he is electable if never given the chance? I know in my bones that he has the best chance of beating Trump and in a leaked audio recording from 2018 at a dinner party of Trump's you can hear Trump admitting that he thought Bernie might have beaten him four years ago and that he was glad Bernie wasn't nominated. I have been offering to make bets against any Dems I know who support Biden that he will lose to Trump and nobody will take me up on it...
Dear Bernie supporters, if Bernie does not get the nomination please please please put all your ...
TattedIrishXx comments on Mar 5, 2020:
Exactly! I think, well no, obviously they’re trying to railroad him and us AGAIN!!! They all took money from big banks, pharma and the like; they know his policies would screw them and they’re beholden to their donors. I hate to be negative and I’m still going to make phones calls, donate, ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 5, 2020:
I think that last time they, the party leaders and establishment, knew that we " meant it", they just didn't care. And they still don't care, if we stay home or vote third party. All they care about is maintaining their privileges and favors between themselves and lobbyists and rich donors. So what they care about is stopping Bernie. Threatening them about the general election is useless because the ugly truth is they are fine with Trump if it means keeping Bernie out of power where he could end their corruption and privilege.
Now we’ll find out if Liz was really a progressive or a moderate after all.
TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I hope I'm wrong, but to me she has always seemed like more of a fake progressive who was mostly concerned with her own ambition. I really doubt she will prove me wrong now.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 5, 2020:
@skado That's the whole diff between her and Bernie in a nutshell. He is "Not me, us" while she is all about her....Too bad most people can't see that, mostly because they are hellbent on having a female prez.. Those that are hung up on getting that will just have to wait four years for AOC, assuming we have that much time left..
Elizabeth Warren drops out of the 2020 presidential race - I wish she would have dropped out before ...
Lauren comments on Mar 5, 2020:
I really wish she'd redeem herself and endorse Bernie, instead of falling in line again with the conservative party factions.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 5, 2020:
She won't. Her past record doesn't look very encouraging on that front.
Elizabeth Warren drops out of the 2020 presidential race - I wish she would have dropped out before ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 5, 2020:
Me too, but she deserved the chance to see how she did on Super Tuesday first. Don't look for her to endorse Bernie, may not even endorse anyone, but my guess is she will make some deal with Biden and support him for a spot in his admin., not that it's ever going to happen when he loses to Trump if ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 5, 2020:
@Lauren I hope so and that they think for themselves as true progressives, instead of sheepishly following her if she makes some selfish deal with Biden to sell out progressives.
Elizabeth Warren has dropped out but is not endorsing anybody yet.
RoboGraham comments on Mar 5, 2020:
She gave a speech in which she encouraged people not to vote for Biden so that's a good sign.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 5, 2020:
When was that?
Dear Bernie supporters, if Bernie does not get the nomination please please please put all your ...
Athena comments on Mar 5, 2020:
Sooo...all of the candidates on stage voted against democracy, except for Bernie, stating "your vote doesn't count" (regarding number of votes versus superdelegates) and once Bernie has been screwed again, due to an oppositional coalition, then "please give us your vote"? If Biden is the nominee,...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 5, 2020:
@Athena Exactly! I am so fucking sick of the hypocrisy on this issue by Dem centrists, the party leaders and the party establishment. Their real position is " Everyone must vote blue and support the nominee, as long as it's not Bernie. Of course, if it is Bernie, none of this applies..." Fucking hypocrites!
It's now clear that the only way Bernie can get the nomination is if Warren drops out and endorses ...
yvilletom comments on Mar 4, 2020:
Get Social Democrats into Congress!
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 4, 2020:
I wish.. The problem is that few of them have the smarts and determination to raise money from small donations the way Bernie has. Without that, they have no chance of being competitive in a congressional race.
When will someone just be done with it and create an official Progressive party that has no ties ...
TomMcGiverin comments on Mar 4, 2020:
I wish that would happen too, but right now I hope the Dem party finally blows up after they lose, again, in November, which will happen not because Bernie supporters stay home or vote Trump, but because working class voters who have given up on the Dems will stay home when they see there is no real...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 4, 2020:
@BitFlipper Little difference. Both are very corrupt. Both lie, Biden less often than Trump, but still too often for my tastes. Biden is already mildly senile or demented, while Trump is simply nuts. I could go on, but I think you get my point... Biden might be better for foreign relations and climate change and maybe less likely to get involved in new wars. Not much for a working class person to get excited about as far as helping their day to day lives...
When will someone just be done with it and create an official Progressive party that has no ties ...
Sticks48 comments on Mar 4, 2020:
When we are young we want things NOW. That is not how it works. How long did it take for women to get the right to vote? Well over one hundred years. The gay rights movement started in the 70's. We still haven't overcome racism in our institutions even though civil rights legislation happened in the...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 4, 2020:
I've been waiting my whole adult life for M4A, among other things. I am sick of feeling like none of it will happen before I die. It's also depressing to keep getting older and realize that America has only continued to get worse and more unfair since the early 1970s. It's a very hard reality to accept and experience as one's body and mortality are only continuing to decline.
Operation Bernie Block is in Full Force - The DNC didn't learn anything from four years ago.
Novelty comments on Mar 4, 2020:
This is the error of political parties that the founding fathers actually warned us about. Madison wrote a bit about it but was of the opinion that it was a necessary evil. I say we screw them all up and all vote independently.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 4, 2020:
@Charlene I really wish he would, but he never will and is an obedient partner with the Dem party. If he did run third party, I still think he might win and would have last time.
Bloomberg's out, and endorsing Biden.
SeaGreenEyez comments on Mar 4, 2020:
Clearly this is a DNC/establishment choreographed thing. Biden's offered cabinet positions to Buttigeige and Klobachar already, Bloomberg suddenly wanting out means Obama and others got on the horn and did something. It's so sad. My heart aches for Bernie. Just like it always aches for ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 4, 2020:
She will drop out soon and either endorse Biden, in exchange for some deal like VP or cabinet post, or endorse no one. Shows what a fake progressive she is and how she sells Bernie out again. I will not get involved again in a prez campaign unless it's with AOC.
It's now clear that the only way Bernie can get the nomination is if Warren drops out and endorses ...
Athena comments on Mar 4, 2020:
It's not over yet! Warren knows she won't be picked for VP, but her actions in the past have been disappointing to say the least. She supported Bernie as long as she thought she was going to beat him. Lately it's knives out. If she has one decent bone in her body, she'll support him.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 4, 2020:
@Athena He's starting to attack Biden on his record, but I'm afraid it's going to be too little, too late. He should have started doing that back in Iowa and NH..We'll see how he does in the debate this month, but my feeling is that the CNN moderators will, once again, be so biased against him, that he will be too busy defending himself against them to be able to attack Biden's record during the debate. If I were Bernie right now, I would be preparing ads that attack Biden's record..
It's now clear that the only way Bernie can get the nomination is if Warren drops out and endorses ...
Athena comments on Mar 4, 2020:
It's not over yet! Warren knows she won't be picked for VP, but her actions in the past have been disappointing to say the least. She supported Bernie as long as she thought she was going to beat him. Lately it's knives out. If she has one decent bone in her body, she'll support him.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 4, 2020:
@Charlene Good. If she backs Biden and confirms she is a fake progressive, she deserves to be dumped by the Dem voters in MA.
To all y'all that voted status quo joe toniggt, enjoy 4 more years of Trump..you deserve it..
Novelty comments on Mar 4, 2020:
Every nation gets the government it deserves. ~Joseph de Maistre
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 4, 2020:
Biden's supporters may deserve it, but I am sick of knowing better than them and having to suffer for their mistakes...
To all y'all that voted status quo joe toniggt, enjoy 4 more years of Trump..you deserve it..
Athena comments on Mar 4, 2020:
"It took the desire to overthrow Bernie Sanders for the democrats to finally unite." Krystal Ball https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eWVYbiIm0JA&t=206s
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 4, 2020:
I've hated Obama ever since he got elected and started showing his neoliberal colors. No surprise to me that he is behind the Stop Bernie dirty tricks right now.
It's now clear that the only way Bernie can get the nomination is if Warren drops out and endorses ...
Charlene comments on Mar 4, 2020:
Get ready for your nightmare to become a reality..
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 4, 2020:
I just heard on TV that she may be dropping out. She's probably going to endorse Biden. What a weasel...
It's now clear that the only way Bernie can get the nomination is if Warren drops out and endorses ...
Athena comments on Mar 4, 2020:
It's not over yet! Warren knows she won't be picked for VP, but her actions in the past have been disappointing to say the least. She supported Bernie as long as she thought she was going to beat him. Lately it's knives out. If she has one decent bone in her body, she'll support him.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 4, 2020:
Unfortunately for us, she doesn't. I am heartened that Bernie is finally wising up and dropping the kid gloves with his "good friend" Biden, finally bringing up his bad record and contrasting himself with Biden. He should have been doing that weeks ago and I'm afraid it may be too late for that...
Silicon Valley Leaders’ Plea to Democrats: Anyone but Sanders [nytimes.com]
RoboGraham comments on Mar 3, 2020:
The leaders are rejecting Sanders and pleading with democrats to vote against him. The workers, not so much. Same as the culinary union. the leaders tried to stop him, the members voted for him.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 3, 2020:
Many people in unions have figured out that their leadership are corrupt and have sold out to the corporations. The culinary union workers in Nevada voted in favor of the interests of themselves and their children rather than those of their leaders. If only most workers were that aware and smart. The union workers knew that their children needed M4A because their kids were unlikely to be able to follow them into good union jobs. They also knew that they could lose their union health insurance easily if they went on strike or their employers decided to screw them out of it later in their retirement.
Progressives plan to BernTheDNC with mass nonviolent civil disobedience if democratic establishment...
BirdMan1 comments on Mar 2, 2020:
Non-violent, and I like it.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 2, 2020:
I doubt the cops and the Dem establishment in Milwaukee will allow the protest to stay non-violent. I remember how the 1968 Dem convention in Chicago became a police riot...
Glad to hear that Chris Mathews just got forced out into retirement by NBC.
Athena comments on Mar 2, 2020:
Glad to hear he's gone too. What a drama queen.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 2, 2020:
I wish Warren would drop out too after Tue., when it becomes clear that she has no chance of winning the nomination. But she won't, because, as Krystal Ball has said, her role is to split the progressive vote and stop Bernie. So she'll play her role and stay in it until the convention and be rewarded with a cabinet post in a Biden admin. Except she should know that he won't win, so she will get nothing out of her dirty work. My nightmare is that she drops out and later is picked as Biden's VP, which still would not be enough for Biden to win.
Well, Bernie is still ahead in the delegate count, and in position to do well on Super Tuesday.
glennlab comments on Mar 1, 2020:
The thing that Bernie has going for him is the 15% rule. In Texas and California that could make a big difference since most of the other candidates aren't polling above 15%.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 1, 2020:
@glennlab Probably right, but Bloomberg is also competition if Biden does not do well on Super Tuesday, since Bloomberg can self finance the rest of the way in..
Well, Bernie is still ahead in the delegate count, and in position to do well on Super Tuesday.
glennlab comments on Mar 1, 2020:
The thing that Bernie has going for him is the 15% rule. In Texas and California that could make a big difference since most of the other candidates aren't polling above 15%.
TomMcGiverin replies on Mar 1, 2020:
Wall Street Pete just dropped out to make it easier for Biden and Bloomberg to get over 15% in the future primaries. He will be rewarded with a VP or cabinet slot. Look for Klobuchar to drop out next right after Super Tuesday. The real ? is if Warren will finally see the light that she can't win and drop out so Bernie can get her support. It will show her real colors, as either a true progressive or just an establishment candidate to hurt Bernie and split the votes of progressives. I'm sure Hillary and the party leaders are already talking to her and offering her bribes to not endorse Bernie.
A poll from Trump’s favorite network has him losing to his most likely 2020 opponents
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 28, 2020:
Confirms what I already knew. Bernie is that best candidate against Trump. The only way he loses is if the Dems undermine him in the general or there is election fraud, which is very likely with electronic voting machines made by Repub companies. I have no doubt there will at least be attempts to ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 28, 2020:
@twshield Screw you then, you're blocked....
A poll from Trump’s favorite network has him losing to his most likely 2020 opponents
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 28, 2020:
Confirms what I already knew. Bernie is that best candidate against Trump. The only way he loses is if the Dems undermine him in the general or there is election fraud, which is very likely with electronic voting machines made by Repub companies. I have no doubt there will at least be attempts to ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 28, 2020:
@twshield I think you are wrong and if he gets the nomination, we will see. You and I are done here, unless you want a block...
A poll from Trump’s favorite network has him losing to his most likely 2020 opponents
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 28, 2020:
Confirms what I already knew. Bernie is that best candidate against Trump. The only way he loses is if the Dems undermine him in the general or there is election fraud, which is very likely with electronic voting machines made by Repub companies. I have no doubt there will at least be attempts to ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 28, 2020:
@twshield Because, unlike Clinton, Bernie is able to get a much bigger turnout than anyone else of young people, the poor and others who usually don't vote, either because none of the candidates excite them or because they see no difference between the parties and have given up hope.
Trump knows he beats anybody but Bernie Sanders.
RoboGraham comments on Feb 28, 2020:
He knows that popular policies like debt relief and universal healthcare will be hard to beat. Even with the advantage that the electoral college gives him.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 28, 2020:
The Dem leaders know that a centrist candidate with a status quo platform is likely to lose to Trump, but they really don't care about that. They just want to protect the top 1%..
Trump Fans Go Nuts After Garth Brooks Wears 'Sanders' Jersey For Michigan Show | Crooks and Liars
CarolinaGirl60 comments on Feb 28, 2020:
I wonder...if Bernie declared that more oxygen was beneficial; that breathing was KEY: how many trumpers would suffocate themselves to spite him and ‘own the socialists’? Just sayin’.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 28, 2020:
@CarolinaGirl60 I guess you're more tolerant than me. If I had a date like that, I would have excused myself after a half hour and left..
Trump Fans Go Nuts After Garth Brooks Wears 'Sanders' Jersey For Michigan Show | Crooks and Liars
CarolinaGirl60 comments on Feb 28, 2020:
I wonder...if Bernie declared that more oxygen was beneficial; that breathing was KEY: how many trumpers would suffocate themselves to spite him and ‘own the socialists’? Just sayin’.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 28, 2020:
Too many of them are mouth breathers anyway. I actually saw one recently, no kidding, a young guy in a MAGA hat that had his mouth open all the time, silently, even when not talking....I need to stay out of IHOP restuarants...
RE: Wokeness
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 27, 2020:
I have no use for political correctness or identity politics, they are mostly one and the same. I think that most of the time they get in the way of actual change in the status quo because they prevent people from expressing their actual truths in how they see and feel about what they experience and...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 28, 2020:
@OwlInASack I hate ID politics and the way the Dem party in the US obsesses about it because it provides a distraction and substitute for the lack of class warfare on their part on behalf of the lower classes. And too many Dems are just fine with that as they are comfortable members of the top 10% economically.
[alternet.
chilehead9 comments on Feb 27, 2020:
A huge number of Americans cannot afford a $1,000.00 emergency if it were to come up, and they're charging nearly twice that to watch a debate between the folks that are running for President? I knew a guy that worked for a cruise line that had exorbitant prices for their cruises. The starting ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 27, 2020:
I have heard there are matchmaking services that work the same way, the high price is a condition designed to make sure no regular people are included, so the rich only meet others of their kind.
Just when you least expect to find the one...
FrayedBear comments on Feb 27, 2020:
But you definitely don't eat shit.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 27, 2020:
You do if you order off most of the non-breakfast menu at McDonald's....
[youtu.be] Cats are here , they have no fear . So beware .
Susieq comments on Feb 27, 2020:
I've seen much more enjoyable cat videos than this one.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 27, 2020:
Agreed. It was amusing to see a couple cats with their heads adorned by Trump-type comb-overs..
SAY THE WORD .
kensmile4u comments on Feb 26, 2020:
I see this post as a veiled political campaign for Bernie Sanders. The reason I say this is because Mr. Rigby conflates socialism with environmental and healthcare justice as if some implicit bias against the word socialism is standing in the way of enacting immediate changes. There are many ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 27, 2020:
I assume you mean Trump?
[msnbc.com]
VictoriaNotes comments on Feb 26, 2020:
*"So is this insane false equalivancy what we're about to repeat?"* Yes.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 26, 2020:
Of course they will repeat the same "mistakes" as four years ago, because their mission is to provide the same propaganda and serve the same ruling class interests. Duh....
NSA phone surveillance program cost $100 million and yielded one major investigation: report ...
Novelty comments on Feb 26, 2020:
There was a tv show in reruns about a pow camp in wwii where the Germans are completely incompetent. In real life the US seems to fill the role the Germans did in the show. As a citizen it’s embarrassing. With all the conservative failures one wonders why anyone hands these idiots the ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 26, 2020:
When I look back on it today, Hogan's Heroes seems like a sitcom that would never get on the air, but it probably helped that back then, in the 1960s, America was way more hopeful and carefree, so the premise of the show was not that jarring...Back then America was the confident 600 lbs. gorilla in the world, instead of now being a fearful, belligerent empire in decline...
I miss church.
Marionville comments on Feb 24, 2020:
Join a choir and you’ll get the singing and the community...supposing you can actually sing of course! You won’t be restricted to singing hymns either, but a real variety of music. You can also volunteer at one of the local charities, I do at a food bank, but there are other charities where ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
@Marionville Believe me, I have done the research in my area. Iowa is pretty backward and conservative culturally. The closest thing we have in my area to a choir singing what I like is a gay men's choir that, stereotypically, sings mostly showtunes, which I am not into.. A choir that sang Sixties tunes would be wonderful for me, but it ain't happening here and not likely to ever happen while I am alive.... There are choirs around the US like what you describe, just not in central Iowa. If I wanted to move hundreds of miles away to Chicago or Minneapolis, even, I am sure I could find something like that, but it's not worth it to me to relocate just to have a choir to sing in....Karaoke is my substitute, where I sing what I want to when I want to...On the on the other hand, with karaoke I have to put up with listening to the bad singers and all the country music, which I hate, that is sung by a good number of the singers at any given karaoke show...
I miss church.
Marionville comments on Feb 24, 2020:
Join a choir and you’ll get the singing and the community...supposing you can actually sing of course! You won’t be restricted to singing hymns either, but a real variety of music. You can also volunteer at one of the local charities, I do at a food bank, but there are other charities where ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
I used to sing in choirs all during my school years and nowadays I get my singing fix at karaoke shows. Joining a choir might work for most, but I am very picky about what kinds of music I want to sing, the same as most of us are particular about what types of sermons or programs we would want to listen to. For me, joining a choir would have to be one that only performed pop or rock music, like in that movie Young At Heart, about the choir for senior citizens. Since that is never going to happen in Iowa, even in my local area of Des Moines, I am done with choirs. I have no desire to spend my time rehearsing and performing music that bores or does not interest me, while all the while having no say in the selection of music for the choir, which is how almost all of them operate anyway....
Watching Petey giving his lame excuse of a concession speech.
dalefvictor comments on Feb 22, 2020:
All the people who are running have their agenda. It is up to us to get through the shit and determine who will be the best. We will vote for that which sells us the best story. Let it be Bernie or Liz as I feel they are the only two who really care about the person in the US.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
@Athena I'm surprised you aren't with NDP or the Greens, but I suppose those two parties are too minor to have any power in Canada.
WOW...So true!!!
Spudgun comments on Feb 24, 2020:
Actually, that's not true. Cats are smarter than dogs, and they are able to learn tricks, understand a considerable number of words (not only English, but other languages as well, same as dogs), and use deductive reasoning. I teach cats how to do High Fives, Sit, Spin, Jump through Hoops, High Tens,...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
I'm not surprised to hear that. My guess is that most cats just don't give a shit and that's why they appear to be less intelligent and trainable than dogs. Cats would rather nap than learn tricks...
Bernie Could Win it All
RoboGraham comments on Feb 24, 2020:
At this point, if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, it will most likely be due to foul play on the part of the DNC.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
@mordant I would like to see those changes you are predicting because we really need a major party in the US that is on the side of workers. You're right that Europe is so much more rational and lefty than the US. My guess is the reason for that is Europeans are better educated and more politically conscious than Americans, along with the fact that their media is more diverse and less of a corporate propaganda machine than we have here. Hence, they are harder to fool into voting against their own class interests.
Bernie Could Win it All
RoboGraham comments on Feb 24, 2020:
At this point, if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, it will most likely be due to foul play on the part of the DNC.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
@RoboGraham Exactly. He was a moderate Repub pretending to be a Dem. As Bill Maher rightly said about Obama, he was W in blackface...
Bernie Could Win it All
RoboGraham comments on Feb 24, 2020:
At this point, if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, it will most likely be due to foul play on the part of the DNC.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
@mordant Bernie is a repudiation of how lame Obama was as prez. Even when he had a supermajority in congress, Obama didn't even try to pass legislation on card check, which would have made it so much easier to join a union in workplaces, which tells you all you need to know about whether Obama was on the side of workers or instead was on the side of business and the rich. Bernie was actually thinking of running against Obama in 2012 in the primaries because of how much of a corporate sellout Obama was.
Bernie Could Win it All
mordant comments on Feb 24, 2020:
Sanders has greatly expanded the electorate by bringing first time and typically indifferent voters into the process with policies that excite them. These are the young, the minorities, the poor, LGBTQ, uninsured / underinsured, working class people who generally sit out elections and in fact often ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 24, 2020:
The reason why Sanders brings in these groups of people you mentioned, who usually don't vote, is because he speaks to people who have been ignored by the major parties and who have otherwise given up hope on the political process. Because these people have seen little difference between the two parties of the duopoly and that neither party would fight on their behalf for economic justice and against the power of the rich and corporations. Notice how none of the other Dem candidates will even mention poverty in America and even Bernie says little about it either. Shows how much the Dems have moved away from their historical role as the party that was on the side of the poor and working class. Nowadays the other Dems only mention the middle class, nobody else, in their speeches as far as economic classes. This began with Obama.
Should Billionaires be taxed at an extra high rate to even out our income discrepancy?
RoboGraham comments on Feb 23, 2020:
Relying on them to donate to charity out of the kindness of their hearts is inadequate. One does not become a billionaire by being generous and I doubt they bother to give to charities for reasons other than positive PR and the tax breaks that charitable donations provide. Many struggling ...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
As long as Americans have to pawn their dignity anytime they get catastrophically ill and hit up their friends and neighbors with begging for help thru fundraisers for their medical bills, there is something seriously wrong with our current system of depending on the rich to provide charity for others when and if they feel like it, instead of paying their fair share of taxes so we have an adequate safety net for all. Same thing with the lack of housing for the homeless. It is a shameful embarrassment for our country, but then again, most of the rich have neither shame or real patriotism. Their loyalty is only to money and their own class...
Looks like Bernie is crushing it so far in Nevada. Suck on that corporate Dems!
Cutiebeauty comments on Feb 23, 2020:
People are sick of trump and probably think Bernie was robbed last time..
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@RoboGraham We hope..
Watching Petey giving his lame excuse of a concession speech.
dalefvictor comments on Feb 22, 2020:
All the people who are running have their agenda. It is up to us to get through the shit and determine who will be the best. We will vote for that which sells us the best story. Let it be Bernie or Liz as I feel they are the only two who really care about the person in the US.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@Athena What happened to the Liberal Democratic Party? Maybe I was thinking of the New Democratic Party. Are they still around?
Watching Petey giving his lame excuse of a concession speech.
dalefvictor comments on Feb 22, 2020:
All the people who are running have their agenda. It is up to us to get through the shit and determine who will be the best. We will vote for that which sells us the best story. Let it be Bernie or Liz as I feel they are the only two who really care about the person in the US.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@Athena So is that LDP, or some other party?
Watching Petey giving his lame excuse of a concession speech.
dalefvictor comments on Feb 22, 2020:
All the people who are running have their agenda. It is up to us to get through the shit and determine who will be the best. We will vote for that which sells us the best story. Let it be Bernie or Liz as I feel they are the only two who really care about the person in the US.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@Athena Do you vote for the LDP in Canada? Just curious...
Who will win the next election . Trump or Sanders ?
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 23, 2020:
Whoa there.. It's a little bit early for that kind of predicting. Maybe later, if Bernie officially has the nomination. Right now it's too early to even know how much, if any, support Bernie would get from the Dem Party or see how much the media is going to go against him as a nominee. I will know a...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@Astonvilla1 Bloomberg himself has plenty of money to campaign all the way to the convention, regardless of how well he does, as well as enough ego to continue no matter how bad he might be losing. We will need at least a couple more months to see how it goes.
Looks like Bernie is crushing it so far in Nevada. Suck on that corporate Dems!
RoboGraham comments on Feb 22, 2020:
He did very well with people of color and women, so much for that "Bernie Bro" narrative.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
@RoboGraham I think Bernie's two biggest strengths are that people can see he is authentic, unlike almost any other DC pol. Secondly, he can't be bought, which is also just about as unique. Bloomberg attacked him for having three homes and being a millionaire, but even that is not going to look hypocritical or corrupt compared to how all the other pols have records of having sold out in ways that are very extreme and clearly corrupt, like having been lobbyists or working for corporations.
Things NOT to put on your profile 3 times widow - WLTM guy into wild mushrooms - Object marriage...
itsmedammit comments on Feb 22, 2020:
But what if one is thrice widowed?!?! I have a friend who who lost two boyfriends to small airplane crashes.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 23, 2020:
Small plane crashes? Were they both lefty politicians? I thought those kind of crashes only happened to them..
Watching Petey giving his lame excuse of a concession speech.
dalefvictor comments on Feb 22, 2020:
All the people who are running have their agenda. It is up to us to get through the shit and determine who will be the best. We will vote for that which sells us the best story. Let it be Bernie or Liz as I feel they are the only two who really care about the person in the US.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 22, 2020:
I totally agree with that. The rest are way too corrupted and out of touch with the 99%.
Looks like Bernie is crushing it so far in Nevada. Suck on that corporate Dems!
RoboGraham comments on Feb 22, 2020:
He did very well with people of color and women, so much for that "Bernie Bro" narrative.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 22, 2020:
@RoboGraham I agree. Right now Trump is threatening that in a general election he would beat Bernie over the head with red-baiting him, but I don't think that would work either. It's kind of like what the establishment did with Nader, who, like Bernie, is a squeaky clean boy scout, that they have to label him as a kook, eccentric, or a commie, because they've got nothing else, esp. if his policies are popular with most Americans, which they are. The American people are progressive enough on policy to vote for Bernie, it's the media and party leadership that are not progressive at all on Bernie's issues. The people seem to be waking up to this on some level. I also want to comment on WallStreet Pete..... What an asshole.. He loses to Bernie by over 20 points and yet he spends the majority of his post-caucus speech bashing Bernie. This smarmy, arrogant, little twerp has no class whatsoever, and, after his debate performance acting like an ass towards Klobuchar, I think people will start to see that about him...
Looks like Bernie is crushing it so far in Nevada. Suck on that corporate Dems!
Novelty comments on Feb 22, 2020:
I'm still supporting Warren, I'm suspicious of post like this because Russian bots are pushing Bernie for some weird reason, but I'll be dance happy if either she or Bernie win.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 22, 2020:
@RoboGraham They can try, but I don't think it will stick or work, esp. with young people. The young are beyond caring about labels. They know they are up against a rigged economy and system, so they will support whoever is willing to fight for them, regardless of labels.
Looks like Bernie is crushing it so far in Nevada. Suck on that corporate Dems!
RoboGraham comments on Feb 22, 2020:
He did very well with people of color and women, so much for that "Bernie Bro" narrative.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 22, 2020:
Exactly! I am so fucking sick of that false narrative and phony charges of that to smear Bernie...
Looks like Bernie is crushing it so far in Nevada. Suck on that corporate Dems!
Novelty comments on Feb 22, 2020:
I'm still supporting Warren, I'm suspicious of post like this because Russian bots are pushing Bernie for some weird reason, but I'll be dance happy if either she or Bernie win.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 22, 2020:
I think the reports about the Russians are pushing Bernie is just propaganda from the DNC, the corporate media, and/or the Trump campaign because they want to smear Bernie with that combined with the label of him as a communist. I am optimistic that it will not work, because most people have become very suspicious about these kind of accusations ever since Hillary tried to blame her loss four years ago on Russian interference rather than her own faults and unpopularity for being corrupt and dishonest...
Dick Van Dyke Endorses Bernie Sanders for President - YouTube
AstralSmoke comments on Feb 22, 2020:
Wow, I didn't even know he was still alive.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 22, 2020:
Van Dyke has been kind of a mysterious figure in the entertainment world for a long time because of his problems with alcohol. His drinking has often caused him to disappear for long periods of time from appearing in public or working as an actor while he was either in rehab or on a bender...
UPDATED: cropped her face.
Lorajay comments on Feb 21, 2020:
I bet she's popular in your geographical area.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 21, 2020:
In Kansas she would be. They're pretty much all hicks and Bible-thumpers....
I’m afraid what’s going to happen is Bernie is going to go into the convention with a ...
glennlab comments on Feb 21, 2020:
We have not had enough primaries to even dent the delegate totals, 50 out of 2000 roughly, after March 3, we should have a clear leader. I have seen this same argument in every contested primary season, so keep your chin up, I believe we will prevail.
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 21, 2020:
@Rudy1962 The old saying goes, " Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you (or in this case, Bernie)"...
I’m afraid what’s going to happen is Bernie is going to go into the convention with a ...
Athena comments on Feb 21, 2020:
https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-leads-all-10-national-polls-released-this-week-ahead-nevada-caucuses-1488141 Bernie has a lot of supporters who will march in the streets of Washington if he doesn't win this nomination. The Democrats had better be prepared to have the party eviscerated, in...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 21, 2020:
@Athena I hope you are right. We will see..
Here Are The Billionaires Funding The Democratic Presidential Candidates
TomMcGiverin comments on Feb 21, 2020:
No surprises there. Bernie is the only one who can't be bought...
TomMcGiverin replies on Feb 21, 2020:
@1of5 Time for your block, troll. I've had enough of your attacks.

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